Alternate World War II Scenario (1939-1946)
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- Опубліковано 5 кві 2020
- This video actually started being produced somewhere in June/July of last year, but do to technical difficulties I wasn't able to finish. I continued with it last week and managed to quickly end it for you to enjoy.
Nobody:
My Hearts of Iron 4 non-historical AI games:
Yh but sometimes germany lazy to weserubung
What the hell is Afghanistan doing in South America?
Nobody :
I : Hearts of iron 4 mod The new order
True it happened to me too but instead japan got destroyed by china and the us, mexico joined the allies, vichy france became independent during the war and iceland got demolished by the us
Can you tell me some similar game for free?
Turkey: *gets invaded*
Gains lands anyways
*"I see this is an absolute win"*
Aa türk
Why did bulgaria I think that's Bulgaria
@@galacticempireofsagittariu3780 No its Turkey
@@Tuzaq I think if it's Turkey, maybe you mean the rebels who want to restore the Ottoman sultanate, because of the defeat of WW1 and the secularism of the Kemalist regime that ended the caliphate for 14 centuries (if using the gregorian calendar)
Turkey switched sides after it was invaded.
POV: the hacker plays as Germany, the pro as Italy and the admin as Japan
The other hacker is Mexico, invading the fucking *United States*
LOL
No
Yeah, Italy was totally a pro, totally didn’t get it’s ass kicked in Albania and Libya even though the numerical odds were at their favour. They were just incompetent in war.
Pretty sure this is just perfection
6:00 Argentina what are you doing?
10:35 Oh i see
Rio de la plata go brrr
Mexico: I wish I had My old Territory
Third Reich: Your wish is granted.
Mexico:Yay!!!
Mexico: * Captures USA Its self* Victory
hahahaha XD
@@kayw9 do this with countryballs please
Mexico was helped by all of South america. And the mexican and Spanish and German and italian people who live inside US and did Rebellion against US. Grrmany also helped
@@kayw9 Mexico takes over USA
Everyone in the world: Wait what?
USA: Proceeds to crush Mexico
Mexico: *UNO Reverse Card*
USA: NANI!?
URSS Be like oh they captured moscw, the axis defeated us
in reality
Axis: captures Moscow
USSR: Oh no...any ways send more troops
Ussr
@@GEO_ANIMATOR when you don't have Moscow and pretty much all of European Russia it won't work that well anymore
@@niccolopaganini4268 and you think stalin would just give up? I don't think so he would continue fighting until there was still one person left in USSR
@@GEO_ANIMATOR my point is the fighting would get very hard for the Soviets by that point, that's why they defended Moscow that hard in 1941, it was strategically important and wasn't just some city like during the Napoleonic wars
This war, as you’ve depicted it, would cost around 100 million lives
Make that 1 billion
Phillip Herring maybe
@@phillipherring659 at that time there was only 2 billion people
I think the most casukaties would happen in Asia and Europe. But i dont. Think 100 million. I think 50 million max because as the war will be less intense. Mainky solders will die and kess civilains will die compared to our timeline.
@@gutsjoestar7450 Over 50 million people died in the real ww2 and some estimates go as high as 100 million. this war would prolly have 400 million deaths to be honest
Ussr objectives: survive until 1946
germany in this video: *goes through the maginot line*
me, a Hoi IV player: "wait thats illegal"
Ok I'm gonna quickly comment everything that's pretty much wrong (historically and geographically) with this video
0:14 - this partition of Poland is well.... Pretty unreal
0:32 - why does Japan invade Manchuria? They already had it for a few years + There's PRC flag instead of the de facto China (I mean Kuomintang China)
0:54 - Now the speech. It's basically Benito Mussolini declaring war on the Allied Powers but does Italy join the war? No
1:02 - Germany just crosses the Maginot line (I hope that I don't have to explain why this is so inaccurate)
1:34 Japan attacks US in October 1940 (which is wrong in itself) but I have to mention that there's no US flag as if they didn't join the war
1:53 Winter war not only year later but how the fins just took Leningrad and Narva and other cities just as it seems without any Soviet resistance is unreal Finnish forces weren't strong enough to do something like this
2:05 next speech made in a really wrong time because it should be around capitulation of France but as you see it's a year after it
2:36 operation Barbarossa is the one time where finally there are some really realistic start date of it but just a few things
1) no encirclements
2) Finland doing their super offensive again
3) a unrealistically fast attack
4) Germans just stop in the late August even without occupying Moscow
3:19 why is Spain suddenly a kingdom?
4:26 Mexico joins axis (but why the hell would they do that)
5:16 Next speech out of place. It's Hitler's speech after losing in Stalingrad and as you see Germans aren't even near Stalingrad
6:00 Argentina joins axis
6:27 now Mexico is just invading the US
7:13 ok back then it wasn't as big as that but look on China.... On 17 October (one day) Japanese took that much and in a few days they just totally occupied them
7:32 Yugoslavia joins axis with their communist flag
7:34 Now totally ignoring the existence of the Himalayas and while invading India again forgetting about how vast this land is and making Japanese occupy this in a few days
7:47 third time the same thing. You can't just occupy the whole Philippines in one day and
Remember it’s made for fun. Not everything has to be realistic.
@@testertestson277 yeah but you cant straight up put up a flag that doesn't exist at the time (PRC)
@@testertestson277 And breaking Molotov-Ribbentrop would not have happened either
@@bensonfang1868 « alternate WW2 »
You are that guy that doesnt shut up when watching a movie??
You know, if that alternate scenario happened and turkey gets invaded automatically the next move is to capture the caucasus oil fields
I liked that even though you knew the difficult task that world domination was, you managed and changed things that did imply that it was another story
That video was very well made, with quality. Really enjoyed.
Nice work on the simulation
Thank you so much bro🙏
Yuppp
olha só quem está aqui 👁️👄👁️💅
ah, e se você não sabe, eu sou o Vithor, tenho essas duas contas, na verdade três, mas uso mais essas duas contas mesmo.
@@saopaulo5591 kkkkkk
@@worldmapper6065 cara eu tô te encontrando muito kkkk
Great job at creating this
I have some questions for this mapping video
1) Why did Spain join? They were in ruins after the Spanish Civil War, which makes it unlikely that they would join.
2) How was the US invaded? The invasion of the US would be nearly impossible. It seemed that there must have been Axis support as they made landings in Florida (I assume the Germans) and Mexico suddenly overpowered the US on the border (again, I would assume that the Germans helped). This shouldn’t happen because the Germans would not even be able land troops in the US in the first place with no naval resistance due to the fact they did not have enough ships to transport troops, let alone with naval resistance and enough troops to overpower the already much higher American manpower. They didn’t even have enough ships to even consider Operation Sealion. Also, it would be impossible to keep all of those troops supplied as they are all the way across the ocean.
3) How does the Axis even supply their troops? They were fighting even longer distances than in actual ww2. In ww2, the axis over extended themselves and could not supply their troops. This didn’t even include the invasion of the US and the even larger distances on the Eastern, Asian, and African Fronts than in the actual war. Their troops would suffer from attrition, which will decrease their ability to fight.
4) I doubt Stalin would have surrendered with the loss of Moscow.
5) What was the US doing here? It seemed that they weren’t doing anything. They weren’t in Africa (I assume as they did not control the straight of Gibraltar), they did not fight in the pacific, and they did not fight in Europe.
6) How does the Axis overpower the allies? The US and USSR had much more manpower than the Axis.
7) The UK did not control the strait of Gibraltar at the start.
8) Japan did not control Manchuria at the start.
9) China has the wrong flag. That is the Communist China flag and not the Republic of China flag.
10) The Germans pushed straight through the Maginot Line and did not encircle the allied troops, which would have gone pretty bad for the Germans as they had to push the mountains, defensive fortifications, and the entire allied force (which was larger than the Germans as they were able to mobilize more men than the Germans in that time).
11) The death tolls are a bit unrealistic.
I don’t hate this video, it was quite entertaining but there were some inaccuracies.
Manchuria was a Japanese puppet by 1939, I think they were invaded in early 1930's
Literally could not have said this better. Also the fact japan just blitzed through india & china in days disregarding how huge these countries are. And the fact Germany just invades turkey without any counter offensive from the soviets
When America gets done in by Mexico while Canada juts watch
Canada was not strong enough tondo anything
As bcanada was part of british empire, britian couldn't help USA either
@@gutsjoestar7450 still, how does Mexico invade the United States?
No, the Japanese would never let the rest of the axis to have territories in south east Asia and the Germans would have annexed way more territory than that and they would have given Egypt to Italy Plus the lands they asked for after WW1 since those were vital to recreating the Roman Empire. And the Americans would have destroyed Mexico the moment the join the axis and the Soviets would have held out to the bitter end, no matter how bad the situation. Sorry, I just wanted to get that out of me
@Collin Champagne there is still no way mexico, japan, and germany could fight a 2 front war across and ocean against the us on their home soil and win, the industrial capacity and troop quality of late war us troops was far superior to any other nation bar possibly german ss but even then they were comprable.
@@Cbassalik It could've been a chance if the Japanese had more precise and accurate attacks on Pearl Harbour, better Japanese leadership, and more planes in patrol and locating positions in the Battle of Midway and with that, they could've done a decisive hit to the pacific fleet and crippled them permanently
This is art
Are you the real one?
@@arightwingsynarchistmexica2244 he is not the real one cuz hitler is dead
Mexico 🇲🇽: *Dad Can I Reclain My Empire?*
Spain 🇪🇸: *Sure Son Just Let Me Ask Germany 🇩🇪 and Italy 🇮🇹!*
Mexico after the war 🇲🇽: *USA Weaker than Me haha!*
USA 🇺🇸: Yep.. Yes I Am 😢
México annd sPAIN is PAIN
Me:Switzerland Is Still There And Neutral🇨🇭
by watching this im guessing you saw the ultimate alternate ww2 video
I like how you can clearly tell which video the audio was ripped from: Vortex Mopping's old video showing an absolutely impossible WW2.
1:02 How about Maginot line?
It loved it. If you think you could do it more accurate then do it and I will happily watch your video. (For the comments that claim this video is bad without considering how hard it must have been to try to edit and make the dates fit)
3:08
*china and usa join*
Axis powers: why do i hear boss music
Edit: nevermind.
1:55why Finland invaded St. PetersburgI know about the fact that the USSR was weak in the war with the Finans, but not by the same amount!
good vid mate
Switzerland: I'm stıll standing
I have seen enough of these videos to know that this one is pretty good.
based
No, this is straight up retarded. The eastern front just stood still for two years. That's plainly retarded from anyway you see it, even without mentioning Mexico...
Is this soundtrack (Song name: Mars) free use? Anyway good mapping.
Yes, is free, used in one of my videos too and it is ok but i recommend you put the credits
@@worldmapper6065 where is the evidence that this soundtrack is copyrighted free? I trying to this song using to my video, but warning of copyright is happening when uploading a video to UA-cam.
@@worldmapper6065 probably you copied from ua-cam.com/video/vcnEF8ss5ms/v-deo.html
@@AyutaTYujin bruh.. anyway as you can see my video is copyright free, and the song is a little diferent, maybe that is the cause
Good work in general, but with some mistakes, i. e. why split Bulgaria?
The Best part was how Mexico conquered the USA just by expanding their boundaries in Microsoft Paint
didnt japan already own manchuria? As a puppet state or something like that
10:23 unreal, Spain as an ultra-Catholic regime would have asked the Philippines and that the Japanese leave their missionaries
"Oh, come on! They're clearly way closer to us!"
-Japan, talking about the Philippines
@@deleetiusproductions3497 que cabrones XD
This video is great!
Mano tu aqui? Kkk
Thanks bro 🙏
@@worldmapper6065 sim
@@kayw9 your mapping in balkans is is mess up but keep it up
What’s the speech at 5:41
Interesting music and speech choices.
I agree
Yes... I wonder where they got it from
where can in find this speech? 5:16
I, too, want to find the source. I think it is Hitler announcing Italy's defeat. If you find it, tell me where it is from, please.
@@Isdeka02 i know its about stalingrad defeat but i couldn't find it
@@kaiserreich5274 Well, I do not inow german but in the "ww2 every day" video from emperor tigerstar he says that the speech is about Italy's defeat. Maybe I'm wrong tho.
@@kaiserreich5274 Ok, sorry for the confusion. If I find I will tell you the source.
Mexico invades the US in 1944? “Earth calling animator..come in animator”
irish and Scots be like:
Nice 😎👍🏻
Scotland is in charge of UK. Why would they be hapy to eee their country defeated. Scottish independance is total geo polical bullshit created by madmen. Scotland have been founded GB, England isnt colonising Scotland you knox nor was Ireland too, so cut your buklshit nox kid
What program did u use to change the date or mapping
Hearts of iron 4 players:
First time?
Although this is the most unrealistic alternate history I've ever seen... Good Work mate!👍
How do you create those maps?
Why did you use Francos speech twice?
VIVA FRANCO HAHAHA
10:38 Argentina: toy mamadisimo
Good ending: reunificaste La Plata.
Sin palabras..
7:35 i dont think an army can cross a country's borders like that even without any resistance
Espically through Indias mountains
2:44 What's the name of that speech?
5:16 who’s voice is that
Mexico wouldn’t have stood a chance against the United States
China is nationalist, not communist just yet
That is freaking nuts! 👌🏻
why did Romania not get any land and the USSR occupied zones look so weird
What did you do whit Bulgaria
why did the eastern front not move for over a year
Something with argentina in axis makes it kinda uncool and funny at the same time
Quick question, is Indonesia (Dutch east Indies) colonized by German here?
Danzig joining the USSR at the beginning is a smart move
Egypt seems so cool in the new map finally
how the hell did mexico beat the usa and dont tell me that germany or japan sent troops there because the royal navy and us navy wouldve easily beaten japan's and germany's and isnt japan's whole motto asia for asians? How the hell would they let germany italy and spain get a chunk of china?
I dont know.. Maybe Japan bombed pear harbour and more stuff and then they send troops
@@manoloesdios But America repaired and replaced that damaged bavy in months, and the naval forces at pearl harbour weren't even a third of America's pacific fleet.
@@joshguest1104 Then I guess it's just argentinan suport
The thing they don’t tell you is how Argentina is secretly a superpower
I think part of South America helped Mexico, maybe that is why it didn't got crushed so easily
I like how Finland takes Leningrad
Hola tío , bien verte aquí xd
@@JstZelda Lo mismo puedo decir xd
@@iberia169 xD
Why does the USSR get Danzig after Polands defeat? I mean Germany basically declared war on Poland because of Danzig
I like how Alaska held onto it after the United States fell
I guess some Americans held out in alaska as a last resort
Круто получилось, продолжай в том же духе!
Where did you find all the German speeches?
He stole the audio from another video
When Germany has a good player in hoi4 multiplayer
Spain wasn't technically a Kingdom until the 1960s
how did japan lose Manchuria. and then invalid in 1940, 9 years after the original invasion.
how did Germany breach the Maginot line before the low counties and then france never serender
Isnt it too hard to edit the date every time
I hate how they split Poland and how Finland managed take Leningrad? That’s not alternate history that’s magic
This scenario wouldn't stay too long... thankfully
The US Armed Forces: Let's go on a vacation to Hawaii!
If the Axis won, I find it highly unlikely Japan would let European powers share Asia, even if it was just small parts. Interesting video otherwise.
Still wondering why Germany didnt annex a chunk of Poland at the beginning and didnt annex Alsace-Lorraine, but besides that pretty good video ngl
Remember that the United States and the United Kingdom at that time did not have good relations with Mexico due to oil issues, perhaps Germany saw it as an opportunity, Obviously it is impossible that Mexico alone has been able to invade the United States, maybe Germany or Japan provided support. I would have liked to see an invasion from Argentina to Brazil There are also several errors but it is ok.
Spain wesent a kingdom it was under franco
Hove how Finland captured St. Petersburg in no time compared to 4 years of siege for Germany
good video congrats.More video pls.
Probably you’re copying music from ua-cam.com/video/vcnEF8ss5ms/v-deo.html , however this may be judged to be copyright infringe.
You really need to explain in the text just where your departure are from the real history. With a little extra work , this could be a much better video.
THIS IS GIVING ME WOLFENSTEIN VIBES
Pretty cool, although I find it very unlikely that the Mexico could successfully conquer the US. At the time the US was like 7 the size in population and far more developed. Germany would also have a very difficult time landing any troops in North America with both the US and British navies still ruling the seas.
I don't think Mexico invaded USA by themselves. Axis powers must've sent aid to Mexico like guns and manpower
@@reconquer5176 the question still remains: how did it get there?
@@willyorgy4677 ships?
Taking Moscow shouldn't have been a deathblow to the soviets. It would have been a symbolic loss and a logistical nightmare but not a killer. Napoleon took it and still lost. Why? Stretched supply lines. Disease and cold. Plus He failed to destroy the Russian army who were still harrasing him.
That Romania... Gives me pain
Usa would be impossible to conquer, like half their population is and was armed
I'm getting Man in the High Castle vibes from this.
Also, would Spain be interested in getting the Philippines back? At least it could share it with Japan and maybe even Germany.
6:39 and I just realized the title had the word “alternate” in it.
I love this video
I don't think Getulio would have joined the allies on this timeline, Brazil was neutral to the Reich and only joined the allies because they knew they would win
Everything was pretty good other than the usa not stomping Mexico.
Charles de Gaulle wasn't at power in 1939
Switzerland: yo guys what did I miss?
Sweden: damn dude you miss almost everything
This video isn't realistic
1. If they even managed to breakthrough the Russian Border and Capture Moscow that fast that wouldn't make sense since The Russians are a superpower
2. Even if they Captured Moscow (like in the first reason) there is no way because russia Does Winter and once its winter Russia uses their full army to attack the country that tried to break Through Moscow.
3. Free Images. Did you even get permission to use those images? Just saying because once I looked at the Asian part I knew something was off.
4. Even if Mexico Joined The Axis USA Could still beat them even if they tried to Conscript USA Will Defeat them Anyway Possible Even With the Axis Help
5. Wasn't Canada a independent Country but still in the British Commonwealth? I thought so too. And Also if Germany Invaded Denmark They had to Invade Greenland too.
Bro what is that speech at 5:40?
7:46 Magical Axis progress in the Eastern Front after years of stalemate. Also why didn't the front move at the first place for years? This is no WWI. Even in WWI's trench warfare, front moved more. Also why would Turkey declare war on the Axis while they knew thew would get destroyed by the Axis immideatly, and why doesn't Soviet Union enter to Eastern Turkey while it's being invaded? And why doesn't the Axis immideatly enter Caucausus (hope I typed that correctly)? Also why does Axis Belarus map look so retarded?
Yugoslavia joins Axis
Yugoslavia Airforce: so you’ve chosen death
This was really unrealistic but was interesting to look at
Mexico 🇲🇽: Im a big boy now