If you didnt know the first part of the video was actually inspired by a real operation that could take place but norway and sweden didnt allow any allied troops on their territory. if you are interested it is called "Operation Pike"
Really big fan of this scenario and I appreciate how you actually got it right, unlike the vast majority of mappers. It would have been even better if you expanded it to about 1950 so we could see the reordering of France and the annexation of some of its east (Burgundy, Lorraine, etc.), Operation Tannenbaum, the establishment of a Breton state, the annexation of Denmark and Norway into the Greater Germanic Reich, and the radical expansions of Ostland, Ukraine, Kaukasien, and Moskowien. Could even feature an invasion of Greece and an incorporation of Sweden into the Reich. If you think a post-war slideshow like this is interesting contact me and I can help with some of the intricacies.
Thanks! I have thought about similar scenarios that you mentioned plus more, except the Brittany part which is a good idea to consider. At the moment I’m working on 2 vids and busy, but importantly since we are talking about the aftermath of “Axis victory” on YT I have to be extra careful and not rush this type of video because one mistake could take it down, so this will take a while.
The this 1:02 movement here of the music gives me the vibes of a construction place where workers are manufacturing something and this sounds being created cause they are using hammer on metal rods.
Bro this is so good. But dude, imagine if the Allies made landing in Normandy and Italy and the Nazis get pushed back in the Eastern Front. At least the 1,000 year Reich stands proudly in Europe.
L’Allemagne a part au maximum avec des moyen approprier et en ayant suprimer malté aurais pu prendre lecair mais pas allez plus loin jusqu’en irak comme on vois dans certaine vidéo la seul solution aurais été que les turc attaque par le nord également et même l’URSS mais je ne connais las la composition de leur armée à cette époque donc je ne m’avancerai pas plus mais je trouve cette vidéo très réaliste !
not exactly the same (the soviets collapse completely, leaving behind a bunch of warlord states, and japan is victorious, along with the U.K being under axis control) but the hoi4 mod The new order:last days of europe is pretty similar. Its effectively just a 3 way cold war between the japanese, the americans, and the germans. Its very well made and written and is the entire reason i started playing hoi4 in the first place.
@@NahwhyisthisIts been a bit so im not 100% on this but the soviets originally collapse due to moscow being successfully taken but only into 4 successor states. These 4 successor states banded together at some point in the 50's (before game start) to try and retake moscow, and almost succeed but end up failing. Eventually afterwards these 4 successor states collapse due to infighting leaving a large power vacuum that's filled by a bunch of warlords, which is how russia is so fucked up when the game starts
Historically on 6 December 1941, Finnish Independence Day, Finland officially re-annexed the territories she had ceded to the USSR on 13 March 1940. I don't see why the same would not have happened here as well, rather than in August 1942 as shown in the video.
@@General-HD The same mistake repeats in all these videos (not just by you, but other authors as well) that use the same video as template (the one about the actual course of WW2 in Europe), because that video also had the mistake. Anyway, nice job and hope you remember this detail in the future!
I would love to see a part 2 to this this was amazing questions though 1st what happened to the United Kingdom after this scenario 2nd will there be a Cold War scenario between the United States and Nazi Germany 3rd why didn't Spain or Turkey join the Axis I think that would have made this scenario a little more realistic
So the US is still about to defeat Japan, by that time the fight in Europe had been prolonged for many years and the will to continue is dying out, kind of like the Korean War. Of course the new Cold War begins between Axis and Allies (with semi-Soviet) as the US presence in Britain increases over time. Spain could of course, but wouldn’t consider it worth going over a long world war for, this will also mean losing Spanish Guinea and face embargo from the US immediately. Negotiations with Germany regarding some French colonial territory transfer still fail in this timeline. It’s instead better to do nothing and profit from the British pay to stay neutral. For Turkey, they were determined to stay out of the war to spare themseles from another deadly war, this also benefits the Axis as Turkey now acts as a buffer wall.
The British-Soviet united front in the Caucasus is a little nonsensical. That area would have been occupied quickly if Case Blue was successful. Russia would not allow foreign troops, even British, on their soil like that; because of what happened after WWI. Also this video is assuming the US never joins the war at all, which it would have in nearly every scenario.
That region is mountainous, so not all of it would have been occupied had case blue been successful, they also need to improve their logistics before they can try to take everything. The Soviet Union is in a critical situation and therefore they would allow their allied troops to help them there rather than risk losing the entire Caucasus with no guaranteed returns in the future. By supporting Britain and the Soviet Union, the US is technically already at “war” with Germany just in other ways. However, Roosevelt is not willing to make that declaration because he knows that Congress is against it. So the idea of this scenario is that the Pacific theatre becomes the first priority for the US here instead of Europe. Yes it will be a quite different event from what actually happened, but that's the point of making alternative scenarios in the first place.
Or Britain agrees to Hitler's offer of truce in 1940 and the fighting ends there. Or even better Hitler gets assassinated before Poland gets invaded. Or even better there's no fighting at all and Germany isn't treated like shit after WW1 and included in the league of nations.
Britain: I made 13 colonies. What should I call them? Britain: 13 colonies it is. UK: I am a united kin gdom. What should I call myself? UK: the united kingdom France: we are allies, what should we call ourselves? the germans have a cool name, we should have one too. UK: we are allies, let's be thew allies
i like how you just tried to get some utility from Sweden cause it's your country, but they would never sign anything on Sweden lol, nobody cared for this country
It has nothing to do with nationality. In reality, there were secret contacts between German and Soviet representatives in neutral Sweden involving peace talks, terms, etc. So ideally if both sides sought an armistice then such negotiations could take place there.
this still kinda feels like the axis will loose in this scenario since there is a possibility the US could be stronger than our timeline, already defeating japan meaning that they can focus everything on germany, if the US declares war on germany which is absolutely innevitable.
It's not like Germany is weak either. Let's remember that now they have oil and that was the only thing that conditioned them to lose or win the war. In this timeline the Germans have oil.... that makes them have quite an advantage.
@@WorkersofAmericaRise With the defeat of the Soviet Union, the Nazis could produce triple their industry, which already exceeded that of the United Kingdom. And also at the end of the video he clarifies that the Nazis were also about to produce their own nuke
@@WorkersofAmericaRise The fleet does not represent that much of a threat and eventually with the super advanced industry of the Nazis they could surpass the UK and make their own fleet or their own Nuke.
There are other side effects at play here, no battle of attrition in Stalingrad happens, many Soviet troops have been encircled instead of successfully retreating to the Caucasus during Case Blue, insufficient time to build up decent defensive lines against the advancing Germans, no US bombing of Germany which further affects their logistics, etc. Overall, the Germans are very lucky and manage to reach Baku and capture it later as outlined in the video.
this should be renamed to "if mussolini never existed" There is no chance in hell he would sit idly by and go "year i wanna revive the roman empire, but fuck it i cant be bothered to take Greece or any former roman province"
The best axis victory video i have seen, so good to see it back 👍
ua-cam.com/video/W54N76p0Gg8/v-deo.htmlsi=oRvVAXrkIO71VL46 this one’s better bro
that is actually pretty good, no ridiculously random
If you didnt know the first part of the video was actually inspired by a real operation that could take place but norway and sweden didnt allow any allied troops on their territory.
if you are interested it is called "Operation Pike"
Really big fan of this scenario and I appreciate how you actually got it right, unlike the vast majority of mappers. It would have been even better if you expanded it to about 1950 so we could see the reordering of France and the annexation of some of its east (Burgundy, Lorraine, etc.), Operation Tannenbaum, the establishment of a Breton state, the annexation of Denmark and Norway into the Greater Germanic Reich, and the radical expansions of Ostland, Ukraine, Kaukasien, and Moskowien. Could even feature an invasion of Greece and an incorporation of Sweden into the Reich. If you think a post-war slideshow like this is interesting contact me and I can help with some of the intricacies.
Thanks! I have thought about similar scenarios that you mentioned plus more, except the Brittany part which is a good idea to consider. At the moment I’m working on 2 vids and busy, but importantly since we are talking about the aftermath of “Axis victory” on YT I have to be extra careful and not rush this type of video because one mistake could take it down, so this will take a while.
The this 1:02 movement here of the music gives me the vibes of a construction place where workers are manufacturing something and this sounds being created cause they are using hammer on metal rods.
Bro this is so good. But dude, imagine if the Allies made landing in Normandy and Italy and the Nazis get pushed back in the Eastern Front. At least the 1,000 year Reich stands proudly in Europe.
Then it wouldn't be an Axis victory
Pls make an Allied Victory scenario
lmao
Finland victory scenario
you live in an allied victory scenario
@@orangecitrus8056 wdym?
@@VinoProduction192 our world is an allied victory
I love this
Pour moi l’une des vidéo les plus réaliste sur la ww2 sans exagération
L’Allemagne a part au maximum avec des moyen approprier et en ayant suprimer malté aurais pu prendre lecair mais pas allez plus loin jusqu’en irak comme on vois dans certaine vidéo la seul solution aurais été que les turc attaque par le nord également et même l’URSS mais je ne connais las la composition de leur armée à cette époque donc je ne m’avancerai pas plus mais je trouve cette vidéo très réaliste !
Just amazing. It'd be interesting to see a Cold War in this alternate timeline.
not exactly the same (the soviets collapse completely, leaving behind a bunch of warlord states, and japan is victorious, along with the U.K being under axis control) but the hoi4 mod The new order:last days of europe is pretty similar. Its effectively just a 3 way cold war between the japanese, the americans, and the germans. Its very well made and written and is the entire reason i started playing hoi4 in the first place.
@@billypen6680 if you watched to the end japan still surrenders
@@billypen6680why do the soviets collapse in this?
@@NahwhyisthisIts been a bit so im not 100% on this but the soviets originally collapse due to moscow being successfully taken but only into 4 successor states. These 4 successor states banded together at some point in the 50's (before game start) to try and retake moscow, and almost succeed but end up failing. Eventually afterwards these 4 successor states collapse due to infighting leaving a large power vacuum that's filled by a bunch of warlords, which is how russia is so fucked up when the game starts
Historically on 6 December 1941, Finnish Independence Day, Finland officially re-annexed the territories she had ceded to the USSR on 13 March 1940. I don't see why the same would not have happened here as well, rather than in August 1942 as shown in the video.
Small mistake but thanks.
@@General-HD The same mistake repeats in all these videos (not just by you, but other authors as well) that use the same video as template (the one about the actual course of WW2 in Europe), because that video also had the mistake. Anyway, nice job and hope you remember this detail in the future!
Please tell me you have a part 2 in mind. I need to see what happens next!
Amazing video, you inspire me to make these types of videos sometimes lol.
I would love to see a part 2 to this this was amazing questions though 1st what happened to the United Kingdom after this scenario 2nd will there be a Cold War scenario between the United States and Nazi Germany 3rd why didn't Spain or Turkey join the Axis I think that would have made this scenario a little more realistic
So the US is still about to defeat Japan, by that time the fight in Europe had been prolonged for many years and the will to continue is dying out, kind of like the Korean War. Of course the new Cold War begins between Axis and Allies (with semi-Soviet) as the US presence in Britain increases over time.
Spain could of course, but wouldn’t consider it worth going over a long world war for, this will also mean losing Spanish Guinea and face embargo from the US immediately. Negotiations with Germany regarding some French colonial territory transfer still fail in this timeline. It’s instead better to do nothing and profit from the British pay to stay neutral. For Turkey, they were determined to stay out of the war to spare themseles from another deadly war, this also benefits the Axis as Turkey now acts as a buffer wall.
Nice video dude! Make more like this. I gave you your 500 like :)
I saw the Malta part. Maybe I missed the conquest of North Africa.
When was Hitler assassinated?
In this scenario there is no successful assassination attempt.
Great. video!!
다만 아시아 전선도 같이 보여줬으면 더 좋았을거 같아요.
특히 일본의 극동 소련 공격
so basically German-American cold war?
It is made in flipaclip?
Nope
I would like to see the asian point of view for this scenario, it would make what happened clearer
Underrated
The British-Soviet united front in the Caucasus is a little nonsensical. That area would have been occupied quickly if Case Blue was successful. Russia would not allow foreign troops, even British, on their soil like that; because of what happened after WWI. Also this video is assuming the US never joins the war at all, which it would have in nearly every scenario.
That region is mountainous, so not all of it would have been occupied had case blue been successful, they also need to improve their logistics before they can try to take everything. The Soviet Union is in a critical situation and therefore they would allow their allied troops to help them there rather than risk losing the entire Caucasus with no guaranteed returns in the future. By supporting Britain and the Soviet Union, the US is technically already at “war” with Germany just in other ways. However, Roosevelt is not willing to make that declaration because he knows that Congress is against it. So the idea of this scenario is that the Pacific theatre becomes the first priority for the US here instead of Europe. Yes it will be a quite different event from what actually happened, but that's the point of making alternative scenarios in the first place.
What did you use to animate this video
Little bit of others but it should be enough with 3D Paint and any video editor you feel comfortable with not necessarily Adobe Premier.
Hey how’d you make this map?
Hey! Another blobflish xd
Is this a repost?
It appears so. The previous vid is no longer there. Probably a victim of YT’s arbitrary demonetization algorithm.
@@Dan-xt7sv ok
This is updated to comply with YT since it was removed and it's also improved
@@General-HD nice
Greece:phew get me survived
Yeah! video's back!
You deserve more subscribers….. like atleast 250k sub… ur editing are amazing and the creativity is out class❤ and btw I subscribed u👌👍
Why is Yugoslavia not invaded
Bro he didn't see the video ☠️☠️☠️
ur pretty underrated
*the man in his high castle*
It’s more similar to TNO or TWR.
Zhukov: be honest.
YESSSSSS its back up execpt your view count is deleted sob
Yeah lol, I will though answer questions about this alternative.
Europe: gets destroyed by nazis
Switzerland: just chilling
WHAT DO YOU MEAN ALTERNATIVE?
It means that some events unfold differently than what actually happened.
@@General-HD oh, I thought you meant a different way the Axis won WW2.
Do the Cold War as a part 2 of this video
Or Britain agrees to Hitler's offer of truce in 1940 and the fighting ends there. Or even better Hitler gets assassinated before Poland gets invaded. Or even better there's no fighting at all and Germany isn't treated like shit after WW1 and included in the league of nations.
Muito bom!
6:38
What about if Japan wins
This scenario shows Axis victory in Europe only as stated in the description.
Britain: I made 13 colonies. What should I call them?
Britain: 13 colonies it is.
UK: I am a united kin gdom. What should I call myself?
UK: the united kingdom
France: we are allies, what should we call ourselves? the germans have a cool name, we should have one too.
UK: we are allies, let's be thew allies
i like how you just tried to get some utility from Sweden cause it's your country, but they would never sign anything on Sweden lol, nobody cared for this country
It has nothing to do with nationality. In reality, there were secret contacts between German and Soviet representatives in neutral Sweden involving peace talks, terms, etc. So ideally if both sides sought an armistice then such negotiations could take place there.
Reupload?
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СЛАВА ЗРРФ, СЛАВА ВЕЛИКОМУ ВОРОШИЛОВУ!!!
This should be called „what if the us stayed neutral?“
this still kinda feels like the axis will loose in this scenario since there is a possibility the US could be stronger than our timeline, already defeating japan meaning that they can focus everything on germany, if the US declares war on germany which is absolutely innevitable.
It's not like Germany is weak either. Let's remember that now they have oil and that was the only thing that conditioned them to lose or win the war. In this timeline the Germans have oil.... that makes them have quite an advantage.
@@Hispaniaedits the Americans also have oil and have nukes, and superiority in airplanes. They also have the British landing base too
@@Hispaniaedits they also have a bigger navy so they can stop any tries for Germany to capitulate Britain.
@@WorkersofAmericaRise With the defeat of the Soviet Union, the Nazis could produce triple their industry, which already exceeded that of the United Kingdom. And also at the end of the video he clarifies that the Nazis were also about to produce their own nuke
@@WorkersofAmericaRise The fleet does not represent that much of a threat and eventually with the super advanced industry of the Nazis they could surpass the UK and make their own fleet or their own Nuke.
How is this realistic? The Germans didn't have enough resources or logistics to take Baku.
There are other side effects at play here, no battle of attrition in Stalingrad happens, many Soviet troops have been encircled instead of successfully retreating to the Caucasus during Case Blue, insufficient time to build up decent defensive lines against the advancing Germans, no US bombing of Germany which further affects their logistics, etc. Overall, the Germans are very lucky and manage to reach Baku and capture it later as outlined in the video.
Слишком много второй мировой войны
NO axis
NO USSR
NO COMMUNIST GENOCIDE
No to communists
This scenario has been done to death. Grow up.
this should be renamed to "if mussolini never existed"
There is no chance in hell he would sit idly by and go "year i wanna revive the roman empire, but fuck it i cant be bothered to take Greece or any former roman province"
Don’t forget Roosevelt bring sleepy and forgetting to declare war on Germany