Ferrari F430 exhaust manifold - 3D scan Revopoint POP 2
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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Ferrari F430 exhaust manifold (20" x 12").
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I learned more with you in the first minute of the video then all other people combine!!!
Gain and CLip Plane what a game changer :)
Glad it helped!
Epic video dude. Great to see your repair work flow on this. That model is insane!
Thanks buddy :D
Another great scan!
edit - Car part scans interest me quite a bit. Would be keen to see how you find scanning smaller objects too, to see what is possible. Matchbox size for example.
Yes, I'm trying to do a variation of subject that require different approaches. I'd like to scan a clockwork mechanism if I can lay my hands on one, something to show the fine detail as you say. Lets see what I can find.
3:32 Judging by the top LHS view, it scans shiny objects in near darkness when zoomed in (with little context). Impressive.
5:02 aaaaand, I own one of those tripods, too!
The LHS top view is for the optical camera only, it was reasonably dark in the room but not that dark (see the stills). However, for non-colour scans you can operate in absolute darkness as the scanner works with its own emitted IR light structure. The consideration for reflective parts like this is they can easily scatter the emitted IR light away from the optics, but also reflect the infra red in sunlight into the sensor, effectively dazzling it. i wanted to show it could be done though without any form of matting spray - which clearly makes the job a LOT easier.
Yep the tripods are great, makes the job a lot easier.
I don't get how you get such good scans with this scanner. I've read so many reviews and most people say they can not get very usable scans with the pop 2.. They all recommended something more professional or an einscan se. Any advice for someone looking to get into scanning automotive parts such as instrument clusters for reverse engineering to incorporate modern displays into older cars?
Hi Nicholas, it is partly down to experience, I have been scanning for many years and used different tools from photogrammetry all the way up to aerospace grade inspection equipment. The other half is understanding what the scanner need to see and how you can help it, help you. POP2 is a fantastic bit of kit, which hopefully my scans show. The final piece of the puzzle is post processing and work flow methodology - as shown in this video where I patch the scan to repair it. Oh and patience.... a LOT of patience :D
In this series I am trying to show what can be achieved with this scanner and not cut too much out so you can see my whole work flow, but still keep it under 15mins or so.
My advice would be perseverance/practice - once you can see what can be achieved you have a target to aim for. Where possible use developer spray (not too much) to make the object matt, and white and make sure you always have a unique feature in shot. Again shown on this video, don't be afraid to 'zoom' out to capture a wider area for the scanner to lock back onto when you need to get the detail. Good Luck.
Awesome job !
Much appreciated.
Great vid. Subscribed for future content too. The scanner doesn't look as good as a $30k scanner, but then again it's not a $30k scanner! I've been looking at the new Lizard scanner and this one... and I think I'm gonna get this one.
I think it's due to the graphics in the preview to be honest, Creality use a metcap to make it look snazzy, Revopoint's is a bit flat blue. I'm trying to sort a shoot out with a $100,000 CMM laser (but it keeps breaking unlike the POP haha) I've used it before for parts scanning and whilst it's volumetric accuracy is without question with objects under 1 cubic foot I don't think you'll see too much difference - it'll be an interesting comparison.
@@JonHimself nice, that'd be awesome to see! I paid for the pop2 yesterday. Looking forward to getting it. I'm hoping it can do latger flat sirfaces too, I'd really like to be able to scan car fenders, bumpers, things like that. I see a lot of scan vids that deal with smaller parts, not as many with flat surfaces. I think it may be partially because the tech isnt there for the cheaper scanners. But I'm not sure on this, I'm a novice when it comes to these things.. so again, thanks for the help!
@@TurboV8boi If you look at the model link in the description you can get to my Sketchfab page - on there is a scan I did of my project car with the POP1.
duam ! this looks great!!!!
Thanks - I was really happy with it too :)
@@JonHimself what kind of material is that exhaust from as it seems very reflective and yet it came out awesom!
@@TheCanadienMickeyMouse brushed Stainless steel - you could see the effect the heat cycles had on the appearance causing it to blacken. I didn't expose the surface mainly due to the owner not wanting the object covered in talcum powder so I tried to do it without - sometimes you don't get a choice - so I like to practice doing things that are a little harder. Using oblique angles and gain settings make this possible. Gain is a funny variable as you need less gain the closer you are - rule of thumb is to always keep the object in the lower left a light grey colour, not white, if you can help it. hard to do with two hands so thats why I try to use a tripod or stand. Hope that helps.
@@JonHimself i thought it was great despite being very shiny and reflective you can always import the scan into maya,3dmax etc and add a stainless steel material the scan was really good
Thx a lot for showing the steps to "piece together" a scan. What was not obvious to me: did You save the steps in between and start from the imported parts of the not complete model?
Yep each 'part' is an individual file.
@Jon Himself Mine arrived a week or so ago and I'm re-watching to bring myself up to speed.
Gain giving large areas coloured red works well then?
Gain is relative to the reflectivity of the colour / surface / distance from the object. You have to adjust the settings accordingly, it's juts down to experience.
@@JonHimself Ok, great, I'll keep playing!
I just got mine from the kickstarter. Do you have to register first to unlock all features of the software?
No, I believe this is for the Studio only, but I use other software (eg Blender, Meshlab and Meshmixer) which I would recommend people take a crash course in as well.
Absolutely top notch video, proving the scanner to be capable on awkward shapes as well as demonstrating that you really know how to fulfill it's potential, whi all helps viewers too. For what it's worth, I really like your video production style too.
Thanks - you're too kind! I was quite surprised by the POP scanner, and just wanted to show what it could do with different challenges. I am glad this comes across, it gives me the inspiration to do more.
I just got my pop 2 today and have yet to scan anything... but I am curious as to where you got your turntable... mine came with one but it is very small-& even with the add on plate to increase the base size to hold larger scans, it seems smaller than the one you use... where did you get it?
I made it myself :)
MDF and 3D printed construction.
I don't often use it to be honest - just get a 'lazy susan' - paint it black and manually rotate - it can be easier.
Thinking about getting one of these, but curious about your software choices. Blender seems to work nice dealing with point cloud data, do you generally edit the scan in Blender first and then use SolidWorks? I've tried to play with point scans in SW before and its less than ideal. Your workflow generally Handy Scan to capture, Blender to clean up, and SW for part creation?
Yep - in my opinion Blender is the best software to get to grips with - its free, huge community and hands down the most impressive piece of software I've used. The issue is the learning curve is steel so you need to smash the tutorials, of which there are many. You could learn other programs but you only have finite time so why not learn something exceptional. SW doesnt work well with point clouds, dont know why, maybe it;s the single CPU threading it uses..... so yes : Scan > Blender (touch up, orientate and decimate) then import into SW. I usually pull it in as a graphical body and add features as I need them (bolt holes etc).
@@JonHimself Awesome thanks! I'll have a look into Blender and see about getting one of these scanners on the way.
@@KentRodgman cool - feel free to use the referral link in the description ;)
Is this an offline scanner or did you have to use a revopint cloud / register somewhere?
Nope all totally off line :)
What content would you like to see next - Mechanical parts ? Antiques ? Everyday objects ? CAD conversions ? Tutorials ?
Let me know in the comments below.
an engine bay and an engine
@@maptec1325 coming soon ! I have my Lotus engine being stripped down and the scanner is going to be used to create a CAD model of the whole thing. I am particularly interested in the cam timing, so the cam shafts will be scanned as an accuracy test. Also the scanner will be used to look at optimising the air flow into the engine and once a model has been created it will be run thru computated fluid dynamics simulations to validate changes, so stay tuned for that ever the next few months.
@@JonHimself that sounds awesome. Keep up with these great videos!
Would love an honest review of the scanner dude. What the cost of entry is, what software is good with it and how does it compare to other things like photogrammetry.
I would love to see an example of rescaling any kind of car part such as front grills , tail and headlights and rims down to 1/24 and 1/64 scale . Love the videos , my Pop 2 is still in transit and all this is an excellent methodology primer . Many thanks
Are you having any issues with too large of scans not processing in revoscan? I'd done an engine and trans and I cant get it to fuse once my file gets too large. I've tried fusing it every 2000 points but it seems I still hit a wall.
Probably running out of memory - you might try decimating the scan in a 3rd party software to reduce the number of triangles in the model - try again and see if that helps.
I use CAD machines so they have a lot of power to deal with this but even I see slow downs.
@@JonHimself yeah, that was my initial thought as well. Both cpu and mem were maxed out on my laptop. I transfered the data to my workstation and even that ended up crashing. I do only have 16gb ram with that though. Not even just hanging up and my impatience being the issue, but actual crashing. Do you have any recommendations for 3rd party softwares? Blender doesn't seem to be up to decimating it, nor does meshlab.
@@MrGuitarbike Blender should monster anything you can throw at it - its the best program in my opinion. The largest scan I have is the engine block at 512MB, I only have 16GB ram too so it should be fine - although it will take 5mins or so to decimate depending on the algorithm you use. other than that upload it somewhere and lemme look - I might be able to crunch it down to something manageable. This is the issue with high res scanners, and video...... the file sizes are just outrageous.
The new software seems to be way less practical to use..
With the music and the text, I feel like I’m playing an RPG in 2003 to find the mythical Ferrari manifold.
😂 is see what you did there 👍
Hi Jon, first of all congrats for your scans, are excellent. I bought my pop 3 scanner for some reverse engineer work, same stuff you're doing here. One question about your work flow: are you doing scan, then fusion, then "continue scan" from the fusion? Or are you doing different scans, then fusion of each ones and then using merge option at the end? Not sure if clear. Thanks btw, awesome Job.
Hi, do you save every scan, or you only stop and restart? I try only stop and restart, but if there 's an error, I miss the full scan. This with pop1
Good question, usually I try and scan the whole thing in one go by stopping, then fusing. That way your work is saved. i do this when I'm feeling the thing might lose track and go a bit nuts for example. it's like 'save game'
After fusing I resume the scan and look for the areas I need to target next.
Nice. I would love to see how you repaired the missing sections in the intakes holes.
I didn't add anything, rather correct some of the overlapping internal geometry to clean the holes. Smooth brush is your friend here and the fill command to locate isolated vertices and join them back into the mesh - it takes a lot of practice.
Thank you for sharing your method with us, this will be very useful!
No problem, glad it was of use :)
unreal videos just wondering did you experience any software crashes was watching other reviews and one said they had trouble with the software thanks for the info and in a simple to follow format really enjoy it
Thanks for kind comments - glad they are helping people. I found the early software to be 100% stable on Win10. Revopoint released a beta version a few weeks back that did crash on me a bit, which is why I did not adopt it, plus it was a beta and no body would have been able to relate to it. I want to use the new software for the next series of scans I do now that it in the open - I know it has had a few updates since, and the Revopoint team are really good at product support so fingers crossed, I am sure it'll be fine.
@@JonHimself thanks very much for the reply i am looking forward to the next vidios 😁👌