Who Were The 3 Quarterbacks Drafted Before Joe Montana? Where Are They Now?
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- Опубліковано 7 тра 2020
- Joe Montana played in the NFL from 1979 to 1994, winning MVP twice and taking home the Lombardi Trophy four times for the 49ers. He is one of the greatest players in the history of the NFL and has plenty of memorable moments like “the Catch” and the “Chicken Soup Game” to show from it. Brady proved that to be great you don’t need to be drafted high, but Montana showed us that over a two decades ago when he didn’t get selected until the 82nd pick in the third round of the 1979 NFL Draft.
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Montana was a class act. My son who was struggling and frustrated playing football in high school and was considering quitting. On a lark I wrote to Montana about my son and was surprised that he penned a personal letter to my son, Telling him all about his struggles getting to the NFL and encourage my son not to give up on anything in life. My son who now is 40 still has that letter.
Thats crazy, was there a dedicated fan mail address?
@@NYG5 I got many autographs in the 90s from teams players. The addresses I sent to were available in the Beckett price guides. They had the addresses to every team. Not sure if they still do but I'm sure a Google search would yield the results you need. My father and I both got Montana's autograph by writing to him. It took around a year each to get (he was a Chief at the time). Some tips....write a nice one to two page letter, ask humbly, and include a SASE (self addressed stamped envelope) for the return. Don't be disappointed if some do not respond. Jerry Rice was my favorite but only sent a fan club invitation in return with a computer generated autograph. Some players are so busy they simply don't have time. The ones who do will take anywhere from a month to Montana's year to arrive. Hope this helps.
One thing you didn't mention is that 49ers scouts went to Clemson to work out Steve Fuller and that's how they discovered Dwight Clark, whom they drafted in the 7th round of the same draft as Montana, and who caught "The Catch"
You can’t say the Giants whiffed with Phil Simms at Quarterback, Simms may not have won four Super Bowls like Montana did, but he did win one, and set the Giants up for their second one. That’s not a whiff.
I agree. I don't think anybody that's a Giants fan feels like they missed out with Phil Simms. If he had played for Bill Walsh he probably would have excelled as a 49er too.
I am a lifelong GIANTS Fan and I totally agree with you. Phil was the man.
Also, no guarantee that Joe Montana would have been any better than Phil. Montana was in a great and revolutionary offense designed by Bill Walsh.
Yeah this kid doing the video doesn't really seem to understand what he's saying. Sims was a great QB.
@@archmage7813 Not only that but he said Montana didn’t play as a freshman because Notre Dame didn’t allow it, but nobody on any team could play as freshman’s.
I want a who were the RB drafted before Terrell Davis
How bout the 30+ before Deacon Jones🤣
Terrell was a 7th rounder? 6th? can't remember, but I remember Ki-Jana Carter was number one pick that year.
Who cares.. Priest Holmes wasn't even drafted....
@@LonesomeJukebox boy what a sad story Carter had.
Steve Young has to be the best back-up ever if you have Joe Montana and Steve Young as ur quarter back in a single season you probably feeling really good 😂
Chris Block someday people will say Jimmy Garappolo was the greatest backup ever behind Tom Brady
Was such a great back-up, eventually became the first Hall of Fame Back-up 😂
Bank Robba Up by 10 with 7 minutes left and still lost...
Idot Kid all good it was his first season as a starter🤷🏽♂️
Bank Robba but how do you give that up tho
Can’t wait to see more of these for retired players!
It's kinda of crazy how in the 80's great QB's threw almost as many picks as TD's. It would be interesting to see what Montana, Simms, or Elway and Marino could do in the NFL today.
Elway and Marino would be insanely good with today's rules.
PI rules were much different back then. Brady would stuggle given his lack of speed.
Unless we also updated them to include modern passing concepts and training, most of them would do pretty poorly. The passing game was pretty primitive back in those days. A lot of it was just chuck it up and hope for the best before the West Coast offense introduced a precision passing aspect. The rules make it easier for offenses now, but DBs are also way more athletic than they used to be, and they can make almost as many spectacular catches as the receivers they’re going against. If you try to play that old school “spray and pray” style, you’re going to throw even more INT than you would’ve in the 80s. Marino and Montana would be good because their offenses were about as modern as you could get for that time. Other QBs like Jim McMahon would be lucky to get a starting job at all.
70s, 80s and 90s quarterbacks would be fine in this era. You make no sense to say that offenses were just chuck it up and hope for the best. Unless you are talking about passing games of first half of the century. I assure you Roger Staubach, Warren Moon and Fran Tarkynton would excel in this era.
Awesome preparation and work, thanks for the video
Great video guys!
Thanks guys great vid hope to see more old school players
Nice job J D
Great vid!
Great vid keep it up
Excellent video. Nice job. I learned a lot about the quarterbacks mentioned due to your hard work.
I don't think the Giants should "regret" taking Phil Simms over Joe. Simms was still productive and has the numbers of a "Hall of Famer."
Yeah i mean you got a super bowl cause of him and honestly part of what made joe joe was how he was a master at west coast offense parcell wasn't doing that.
Plus the Giants offensive line in the early 1980s would have wrecked Montana.
I don’t think Montana would have been as good if he played for Bill Parcels. He needed Bill Walsh’s system to achieve his full potential. I think Phil Simms definitely fit in in the Giant’s team where the people of New York remember him fondly.
I'm a Giants fan and Montana is on a different level that. Simms was.
Oh so we doing retired then I think its about time for my mister de ion sanders
Supeme Fiddle he was like 3rd overall
SHHH
5th overall and 3 of the ones in front (Aikman, B. Sanders, D. Thomas) are HoFs. The only one that was bad was the absolute unit that went to GB but didn’t know how to block and probably roided up.
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3 maps dude, really enjoyed watching it, hope 2 see more!!!
Phil Simms was quite good. Much respect. Giants picked well too.
Sure, some QBs are better than others. But how good or bad a QB looks largely depends on how solid the team around him is. The 49ers of the Joe Montana era was loaded with future hall-of-gamers.
Plus the west coast offense even before 49ers had Jerry rice and John Taylor… Montana won first two super bowls in 81 and 84 with a solid receiving corp but not Jerry rice hall of famers
-the west coast offense was a perfect offense for Montana-which was more of a reason for his ultimate success…
I remember Joe Montana guest hosted SNL during his playing career and don’t know why I remember this but he was in a sketch were his character kept telling others that he would be spending a lot of time upstairs master-baiting. It was a really strange sketch even for SNL. I’ve never been able to find it on the internet, UA-cam etc just no luck.
The qbs taken before Dan Marino
John Elway. Jim Kelly. That'd be a rather different video.
Joel Yetz and the Jets took Ken O’Brien ahead of Marino. I remember that draft it was crazy 😝
ESPN did a 30 for 30 on Elway to Marino.
Todd Blackledge
Do every DE selected before Michael Strahan
Great Video. Montana is the g.o.a.t. to me and always will be.
I agree and I'm a Redskins fan.
Dare you to do Deacon Jones 😂
Fun fact
The Seahawks traded the draft rights to the cowboys for tony Dorsett they got 4 picks they used 3 of those picks on role players they traded the 4th for more picks that 4th turned out to be joe Montana
Well done Seahawks
The greatest player of all time
Nah emmit smith
hiiiii love ur vidsssss
I didn’t think you guys would actually take this request from months ago.
I like this channel, I see it being very popular, I'm usually right!!!!
I was at my grandparents house for the chicken soup game. I got to see the last half-hour. That made an impression.
Joe Cool is the greatest that being said Phil Simms was 2-1 head to head in playoffs 85.86 vs 84.
3565 yards, 11 TD’s (but shows 19) 12 INTs. Haha an honest error just giving you shit. New sub here. Love the content my dude. Keep it coming!
Playing in the 80s with the rules are different then today...Joe Montana will always be the GOAT...
I don’t understand how such a young kid does so well with these videos. Kudos to him.
His mom brings him chicken soup to his room in her basement.
Just subbed. Hokies gotta stick together.
And I think you can make the argument Montana would not have done well under Parcells in New York....walsh's system was perfect to develop Montana's skills. Sims worked out fine for the Giants
According to some in the Bay Area, around 1990 or 1991, Al Davis called Bill Walsh seeing if he could trade for Jerry Rice. Walsh told Davis that Rice wasn't available but that Montana was. Davis said to Walsh that Montana would suck as a Raider because he didn't have the arm strength to get the ball downfield to the Raiders receivers, who included Tim Brown. Davis then asked about Steve Young, and Walsh ended the call.
It goes to show that all players are "system players" in that that most talented roster can still play poorly if the system they are in doesn't highlight their skills.
Montana was purely a system player. He would have been average in any other system. I should also add that he was fragile and forever injured. I am in my 50s and watched his whole career. My opinion he was way overrated.
@@davidmitchell6873 my favorite part of your absolutely wrong opinion is the fact that no one asked for it
Sorry I hurt your fragile feelings fanboy but little Joe was soft. Elway, Marino and Steve Young were far superior to little Joe.
@@davidmitchell6873 btw I'm a Cowboys fan and was 10 when he broke our heart... I am no fan boy of joe...my guy was Staubach....then I loved Marino and Elway and kinda liked Danny White until Aikman arrived....I'm just being objective....
Sorry if u were ......butthurt
Phil was a damn good player. The GIANTS didn’t get Montana, but Phil was a hell of a consolation prize.
Being from just down the road from ring gold, here's a couple other local qb's you may have heard of, Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, Joe Namath, George Blanda and Johnny Unitas. Just to name a few.
"No question about who was the greatest quarterback ever" was Montana?? Obviously said by somebody who never saw Unitas in his prime, or Otto Graham. This is the problem with EVERY discussion about who is the GOAT, no matter the sport. You can't judge what you did not see with your own eyes. Better to say somebody was "the best of HIS/HER time".
Automatic Otto was in his league's championship (AAFC then NFL) EVERY SINGLE YEAR OF HIS CAREER!!!!
He played in a segregated league. Can't vouch for him.
@@areguapiri So Marion Motley was white? 1/3 of his teammates were black.
You are confusing your sports, champ.
Joe Montana has always been my favorite QB. I always thought of Simms as a system QB who rode that Giants defense to a pair of rings.
Sort of agreed. If Simms was a system QB, he was a bloody good one! But point made and pretty much agreed with.
What a great !!
Jack Thompson was my high school football coach he was the quarterback coach
The reason i watched nfl is Joe Montana. He's is the #1 QB to me and when he retired...i haven't watched a game since.
People drafted before Chandler Jones My guy! Love the vids!
I am a die-hard 49er faithful since I can remember back in the 70s and 80s -- no disrespect to Joe-cool Montana -- because of Bill Walsh turning the 49ers organization around as general manager and head coach, I am sure that any quarterback Walsh would have chosen back in the day would be enjoying the accolades that Joe enjoys today. Bill Walsh has a knack of creating legends because of who he is. Look at all his coaches/ All his coaches won Superbowls.
Don't get me wrong -- I am a huge Joe Montana fan, just like Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady -- but I am a bigger Bill Walsh fan. There was a chance that the Bill Walsh 49ers almost got Phil Sims, and this video would have been about "Who was drafted before Phil Sims".
Utterly nonsense
Were that the case, Steve DeBerg would be in the HoF. Last I checked, he’s not.
Walsh was a great coach and a very imaginative one. But his system relied on the skill set of his quarterback.
Bro, praising Bill Walsh doesnt mean you have to downgrade Montana. You literally could have had a great coach team up with a great player. Jeez the limited mind of a lot of these guys thinking they got something smart to add.
I see where you're coming from. The systems created and than implemented by the coach is more important that the skills of the players in that system. The system was a complement to Montana and Montana was a compliment to the system, so I'm not sure there would have been similar success if they went with a different qb and I'm not sure Montana would have been as system in another system
Uhhhh, no, Steve young threw a lot of interceptions at key moments in the game whereas montana did not.
He was known as JOE COOL, NOT COOL JOE.
Biased, yes.
My town and my team.
But Joe was a rocket.
He absolutely killed so many dream of other teams.
Thank you Joe for picking the 49'ers up and out of the dirt and making my team shine.
Please do the 25 running backs taken before bo Jackson
Wasn't he the first overall pick
@@joebiwan4760 by the bucs but his baseball got in the way so he decided to go in the 1987 draft where he was a 7th round pick
Oh
Why he's the most over rated nfl player of all time
@@danemortensen8243 yeah that’s the point
The best qb ever to play and brady knows this and still says this to this day. He knows he's not better than Joe but popular belief has Tom which is cool to.
As an Irish you could only be great!
Original 🐐
As a Cowboy fan, I respect Phil Simms--although he begged for flags and acted injured when he really wasn't.
The real goat!!
Yo hokie show some respect phil s got a gold jacket dude .
I saw that game against Houston. He was amazing. The scouts should have evaluated the games he played not scouts opinions
Montana to Rice are my earliest football memories
Do Dan Marino next
The reality is the 49ers only drafted Montana because a scout said they should! The scout said during the draft Walsh wanted his Stanford QB, Steve Dils.
Steve Dils was a great back up qb in Minnesota for many years. He was extremely good on special teams holding for kicks as you never were sure if it was a kick or pass he was extremely accurate. Just not starting material. But a great back up if you needed a guy to win two or three games he could do that.
There been two 3peats in NFL history….1929, 30, 31 where the Championship was decided by end of season record and 1965, 66, 67……BOTH of the 3peats were by the same franchise…the Green Bay Packers
Y'all should do Randy Moss
Is it weird that I watched this just for the background music?
nice vid man i think hes better than brady no cap
Yes he is
Uma Rajan by far he is better than Brady
Joe was surrounded by great receivers and running backs. Brady has had just a few pro bowlers around him and he still keeps going to the superbowl. If you think Montana is better then you don't know qbs
Mitch Conner so was Brady 😂 🤦🏽♂️
@@sanfranreal2148 when? He had randy moss for a few years. He made Edelman and Welker. Most years he was throwing to deoin branch and gafney and other scrubs. Brady did it during a salary cap Era. I love Joe but he didn't get threatened with losing his stars every year.
Joe Montana and Steve Young = Tom Brady and Jimmy Garappolo
Are you really comparing jimmy g to Steve young lol that's not right
Watched Steve Young and he totally underachieved Montana could have still won a couple more Super Bowls had he stayed .
Not Cool Joe! He was called Joe Cool
There is still no question who is the GOAT. JM16
In an interview Walsh said the quarterback he wanted was Simms he even traded up to draft him, but the Giants took him. He then took Montana in the 3 rd round, the interviewer than said I Walsh was glad that he didn't draft Simms, Walsh said if he had to do it over he would still take Simms, make what you will of that
Anybody know how you can have .7 of an interception?? 11.7
He IS the best qb
How do you even make a top 10 QB list? Just so many good talents. And then there are those old players like Johny Unitas or Bobby Lane who has no good film and lived in a different era of football where the passing game was different. Then there are those like Kurt Warner who didn't play extremely long, so where do you rank him? And then the young player like Mahomes and Jackson who seem like all time talents, but who's to say right now? And then people like Steve Young and Mike Vick. How do you rate that running ability? Like it is so hard and any list I see I will immediately call wrong.
Do a Tim Brown
Three QBs drafted before Montana and six QBs drafted before Brady. The 1979 draft did have two HOF players drafted before Montana.
Thompson was so bad you kept playing t the clip 😂
I love seeing Montana highlights. However the 49ers wouldn’t have been the first team to three-peat had they won in 1990. They would have been the first in the Super Bowl era. The Packers three-peated twice. 1929, ‘30 and ‘31 and 1965, ‘66, and ‘67.
My fav QB ever!!
You should do all the kickers before justin tucker if there were any
Funny how the NFL didn’t exist before the Super Bowl!
How did you make a 20 minute video about a 30 second read?
One correction - nickname was "Joe Cool" not "Cool Joe" lol
The information based on the video description begins at 12:00. Joe Montana was an average quarterback whose receivers made him look good. Steve Fuller is better known as the worst dancer ever on the Chicago Bears "Superbowl Shuffle" video from 1985
It is always amazing to me- pro scouts rate QB's based on stats and "athleticism" when ability to lead the team and ability to perform under pressure are what make a great QB. Montana's scout scores looked mediocre but he performed exceptionally at Notre Dame. Brady looked much the same- impressing no one at the NFL combine but led Michigan to great clutch performance victories. Inexplicably, Michigan often went back to poor performing starter and forcing Brady to wait until the game was nearly lost. The NFL needs to look for new scouts.
The things that make a great QB are things that just can't be measured and quantified. All you can do is guess. That and also measure the things that can be measured to see if a guy is not going to be any good. For instance, there have been lots of QBs with all the intangibles but terrible arms that fail every time. Yes lots of guys with average at best arms have been hugely successful but below that, they all sucked.
The 9ers just drafted religous school Qbs back then
You should do a who was drafted before Ray Lewis
Or you could just look it up.
@@davidmitchell6873 I’ll look up your mom
One correction, the score in that Cotton Bowl was 38-10. I knew at that point that Joe Montana would have a successful NFL career.
Who was drafted before Sean Taylor please HTTR
Crazy that when the Cowboys picked he was the top player on the board and their rule was after the 2nd rd always take the top player on their board....they chose to take the 2nd player on their board because they had Danny White and a descent back up.They needed tight end and took Doug Cosbie out of Santa Clara. He played 10 years set the cowboys record for receptions by a tight end and made 3 straight pro bowls....back when that mattered
Doug Cosbie was the last decent pick the Boys would make in the draft until they took Jim Jeffcoat in 83(and even though Jeffcoat was a good player for them they could have had Dan Marino!). Jeffcoat and Herschel Walker would be the only quality picks they made until Michael Irvin and Ken Norton Jr. in 88. They picked up some quality undrafted free agents in Everson Walls and Bill Bates along with a few others but those early 80s drafts were PUTRID for Dallas.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 well I disagree respectfully as you are right they drafted very poorly....but they hot Timmy Newsome in 80 and Ron "fine" Fellows in 81 in the 7th and Mike Wilson on the 9th....u may not remember him but he was a WR for the 49ers for about 8 years... he had some very good years....also in the 5th round they got Phil Pozderek who was a pro bowl offensive linemen... but they hit on zero picks from the 1st to 5th rounds unless you count Jeff Roher.....
@@2001gogamecocks Timmy Newsome was underrated for sure but I don't think he was robbed of any Pro Bowls the way Jeffcoat was. And we can't count somebody like Mike Wilson because he was cut before he ever played a game with the team. Likely he might have stuck if the Boys weren't overloaded at WR that year but that just tells me they wasted a pick on a player they didn't need.
Pozderek never went to the Pro Bowl couldn't hold a starting job for a full season without losing it to a better player and is most famous for the two holding calls he drew that cost them the second game against New York in 86. He was possibly the difference between an 8 and 8 season that year and a 7-9 season.
And no I don't consider Roher a quality pick. The only decent linebacker they drafted in the 80s was Eugene Lockhart and even he was too slow to be honest.
Drafting and a failure to find a quality replacement for the aging Danny White were the two greatest failures of the 80s Cowboys. Tom Landry might have survived one of those two failures to retire with a winning season but not both. In hindsight he could have spared himself a lot of grief if he had retired after 1985 but then who's to say whether the team would have picked the same building blocks that helped to form the 90s Dynasty. Same is true when I talk about Marino. They draft Marino and the team likely never has a losing season in the 80s but it's unlikely they win another Super Bowl either if everything else stayed the same.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 fair enough...he played fullback tailback and even tightend...very versatile and ran the screen as good as anyone...nice player in the round we got him but no...he was not a pro bowler by any stretch..
@@2001gogamecocks I always liked Timmy Newsome. If he had been on a Super Bowl contending team in his prime he would have gotten a lot of recognition just like Tom Rathman or Moose Johnston. A lot of those 80s Cowboys went unrecognized for their talents. Jim Jeffcoat never went to a Pro Bowl and that is ludicrous to me. He should have gotten a nod at least in 85 given how much his play contributed to the team winning the division that year.
Jack Thompson, Phil Simms, and Steve Fuller, Bengal Giants, and Chief.
There. I just saved you 13 minutes of not telling you who was picked before Joe Montana.
Thank you.
5:00 did he say 7 and a half
Just cause steve young didnt win 4 super bowls doesn't mean he didnt live up to the legacy of joe Montana. Maybe not on a wider scale but as a niner fan I think young contributed a bunch to the organization
The Packers are the only team to 3-peat. They’ve done it twice actually. First time was 29, 30 and 31. The second time was 65, 66 and 67.
No superbowl era 3peat?
Lol that was NFL championships bot super bowls that was back when there were like 8 teams im the NFL lmao that shit dont count
none of that counts
Great video overall. The only thi g I would say is regarding Young that he didnt live up to Montanas legacy, I mean if you mean he didnt win 4 superbowls than ya but he is a legend and as a 49ers fan I would say saying he didnt live up is way to strong of a word and really not true at all
If Montana plays today with all the protections for QBs and WRs, Brady would barely be an afterthought.
Post season record 50.9 qbr? Did I hear that right
Do ronde barber one of the best corners ever
12:00 mark, your welcome.
Not every team is a good fit for a player. If Montana had been drafted by the Bengals, it is highly doubtful he would've enjoyed the success he enjoyed with the 49ers.
Joe Montana will always be my favorite even though Tom Brady is the best.
Joe played with Rudy Ruettiger
Joe hated Rudy and still thinks he's a twerp.
What happened to the 3 qbs taken before Joe montana?? Who are they playing for now?? When will see them make a comeback??
I love this video and the channel but you need to redo the opening statement of the video. No one considered Joe Montana the GOAT (unless you were a Niners fan). He was fantastic to be sure and in the conversation but the system he played in, the talent he was surrounded with and the coaches he had were at that same level. His performances in big games are the best argument but when you watched guys like Marino, Elway and to a lesser extent, Favre you were overwhelmed by them. Especially the first two in terms of leadership and will. If I have five fingers for the top five of al time Joe is in there but at no time did I consider him #1. (yes I watched him in college and he's in my top 10 all time college QBs. He's the only one who is on both lists btw which might be a good topic for another video: Best QB - College career and pro career combined?
And how bout Jerry Rice:)