The Shortest vs. Tallest NFL QB's ever... Which is better?

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  • Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
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    Which is better? The abnormally tall QBs or the abnormally short QBs?
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  • @KTOfootball
    @KTOfootball  2 роки тому +915

    Just to clarify. I cover “abnormally” short and tall players in this video. There’s been great QB’s who were 6’0” and 6’6”, but I chose to cover the true outliers. Anyways, enjoy!

    • @KawikaChing
      @KawikaChing 2 роки тому +6

      Awesome video man. Keep it up

    • @Aao1
      @Aao1 2 роки тому +9

      Do the same for linemans now :)

    • @KawikaChing
      @KawikaChing 2 роки тому +4

      @@Aao1 KTO: "so....there's a guy named alejandro villanueva" 🤣🤣

    • @MagicalBread
      @MagicalBread 2 роки тому +6

      Just fyi, NFL Throwback also posted a video with literally the same topic. What are the chances!?

    • @KawikaChing
      @KawikaChing 2 роки тому

      @@MagicalBread lol that's the hot topic in the comments apparently

  • @mksorenson1
    @mksorenson1 2 роки тому +1812

    Best fact about Wilson is that his college o-line at Wisconsin was taller and bigger than most NFL teams. And teams still thought he couldn’t see over them.

    • @GetToughOrDie
      @GetToughOrDie 2 роки тому +147

      Yeah I remember they had a line bigger than the Green Bay Packers at the time!

    • @J_Roq
      @J_Roq 2 роки тому +19

      😂😂😂 I'm so glad I'm not the only one that remembers that

    • @donovanwilliams29
      @donovanwilliams29 2 роки тому +18

      Wisconsin university had to have them big lineman as there were putting out NFL RB's every 3 , 4 years
      Ex. Ron dayne and the one they had either before or after him.. not sure if it was j bettis

    • @a1kev
      @a1kev 2 роки тому

      Wow

    • @bevo1120
      @bevo1120 2 роки тому +3

      Stafford was ga bulldog wasnt he?

  • @FINSUPPP
    @FINSUPPP 2 роки тому +927

    idea: do the smallest receivers vs the tallest receivers and their stats

    • @KawikaChing
      @KawikaChing 2 роки тому +6

      On the other side, there's Taylor's gabriel

    • @OnMyKneesForKidCudi
      @OnMyKneesForKidCudi 2 роки тому +18

      @yossarian Beasley lost his power after losing his hair

    • @bigshep3152
      @bigshep3152 2 роки тому +43

      @yossarian out of all players why does he come to mind instead of Steve smith sr?

    • @arachnofiend2859
      @arachnofiend2859 2 роки тому +19

      @yossarian The first guy that comes to mind for me when it comes to short receivers is Wes Welker but apparently he's 5'9" on the dot so idk if he counts

    • @juzzilauren
      @juzzilauren 2 роки тому

      Rbs too

  • @djcook
    @djcook 2 роки тому +966

    This is a crazy good video idea. Do it for HB AND WR

  • @fumblerooskie
    @fumblerooskie 2 роки тому +147

    Flutie called his time in the CFL something like "the most fun I ever had playing football." He LOVED it and Canadians loved him (and still do). I wouldn't call his playing there as a "resort." The CFL has a history of taking NFL rejects who shouldn't have been and turning them into stars (such as HOFer Warren Moon).

    • @yourdaddy6030
      @yourdaddy6030 2 роки тому +9

      The CFL does not have a history of turning ex+NFLers into stars. No no no. What they do is give a platform for these people to show their talents. Like Flutie wasn't afforded in the NFL. But to sit there and say that the CFL has a history of turning these type of players into stars is disingenuous at best! Lol. Pppppppoooooooooooooooppppppp

    • @bullscott12
      @bullscott12 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah as a Canadian I am curious if Flutie is well known today in the states, because I would say he is still a household name here

    • @thomasdemay9805
      @thomasdemay9805 2 роки тому +4

      @@bullscott12 he is well known to football fans and majority of americans are football fans so he is still well known.

    • @bullscott12
      @bullscott12 2 роки тому

      @@thomasdemay9805 Fair, I guess I was just wondering if my experience was different than those below the border.

    • @SquawzHD
      @SquawzHD 2 роки тому

      @@bullscott12 It depends on who you talk to

  • @furiogiunta7886
    @furiogiunta7886 2 роки тому +138

    I guess they gave Drew Brees that extra inch. I've met him in person once, he is definitely not 6 foot tall.

    • @alexanderguerrero347
      @alexanderguerrero347 2 роки тому +10

      Did he have a bee on his hat

    • @voiceofreason2674
      @voiceofreason2674 2 роки тому +3

      I have too and he is definitely over 6 foot plus he has long arms and huge hands. He’s not a small guy at all

    • @wickedlateok1697
      @wickedlateok1697 2 роки тому +6

      I’ve seen johnny manziel in person and the fact that some publications actually list him at 6’1 is hysterical. How he gets away with that, I’m not sure. I mean...look at him on the field compared to everyone else. He’s 5’10 in cleats.

    • @CraneStyleNJ
      @CraneStyleNJ 2 роки тому +2

      Same could be said about Mike Vick. Barely reaches the 6ft mark.

    • @ElwoodPDowd1970
      @ElwoodPDowd1970 2 роки тому +2

      I went to the same high school as Doug Flutie, though a few years behind him. I'm 5'10" and the one time I stood next to him, well, 5'9" has seemed generous ever since. 😐

  • @tearsofjoy5416
    @tearsofjoy5416 2 роки тому +119

    The Doug Flutie story is like the 4th installment of back to the future, plus he looks like marty mcfly. What a legend

    • @Argos-xb8ek
      @Argos-xb8ek 2 роки тому +1

      Great Scott

    • @AndersonNorden
      @AndersonNorden 2 роки тому +3

      Looks like Marty mcfly 💀

    • @chucknorris277
      @chucknorris277 2 роки тому

      No mention of the drop kick with the Pat's wtf. Last drop kick since the 50s

  • @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly
    @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly 2 роки тому +476

    Not only do tall QBs have long throwing motions, but since they can tower above their O Linemen DBs and linebackers can more easily read their eyes.

    • @marckman1411
      @marckman1411 2 роки тому +5

      QBs usually throw where there are openings in the offensive lines blocking

    • @nukey4121
      @nukey4121 2 роки тому +3

      Bay areaaaaaa

    • @pro_pooer
      @pro_pooer 2 роки тому +2

      so be like patrick mahomes n no look throw it

    • @iim6ke230
      @iim6ke230 2 роки тому +13

      I think that’s why the first Seattle QB had a tinted visor

    • @crazyralph6386
      @crazyralph6386 2 роки тому +13

      Exactly why taller QB’s have a longer career span, when they’re essentially pocket throwing QB’s who aren’t prone to running.

  • @OliverChiacchia112
    @OliverChiacchia112 2 роки тому +33

    NFL Throwback literally just did a video on this crazy timing

  • @JackCallSports
    @JackCallSports 2 роки тому +88

    You forgot to mention Doug Flutie’s drop kick with the patriots 😭

  • @fredb3400
    @fredb3400 2 роки тому +188

    I'm surprised that you didn't mention that, while in San Diego, Flutie also paved the way for another "short" QB: Drew Brees

    • @choiyatlam2552
      @choiyatlam2552 2 роки тому +5

      Drew Brees is six feet tall. That section is about qbs under six feet.

    • @KingJori_
      @KingJori_ 2 роки тому +15

      @@choiyatlam2552 he’s still the second shortest QB to ever win a SB.

    • @birch5757
      @birch5757 2 роки тому +9

      @@choiyatlam2552 he is listed at 6 feet...but I've seen him in person and watched him play his entire career. I don't buy for a second that he's a legit 6 foot. Not wanting to start an argument, just giving my .2

    • @MJIZZEL
      @MJIZZEL 2 роки тому +10

      @@birch5757 Your right about that. Im 5'11"3/4 and I've met Drew. He wasn't taller than me.

    • @birch5757
      @birch5757 2 роки тому

      @@MJIZZEL haha. Funny you say that. I'm the exact same height.

  • @boedacious
    @boedacious 2 роки тому +138

    I remember seeing a video about a coach talking to Osweiler during tape. Made me realize a big downside to tall QB's: because youre so tall, the defense can see where youre looking

    • @voiceofreason2674
      @voiceofreason2674 2 роки тому +18

      Also a 3 step drop leaves you very far behind the oline basically on an island vulnerable if an edge rusher wins. And extremely critically for any football position. Very tall guys do not take hits well, they fall hard and can take an entire tacklers force into their leg. Smaller guys can crumple into the tackle well. Look at like hunter renfrow or mark Ingram, they’re not particularly bruisers but their size allows them to take hits with less consequence

    • @stylicho
      @stylicho 2 роки тому

      You do realize Brady and Manning are both 6'6 right? Still can't read them after twenty years lol

    • @voiceofreason2674
      @voiceofreason2674 2 роки тому +7

      @@stylicho Brady is always been a scrawny 6’4” Manning in his prime was a jacked 6’5” but now he’s a lot skinnier and has the back problems. Google pics of them and Joe Flacco who is 6’6” you can tell they’re shorter.

    • @stylicho
      @stylicho 2 роки тому +1

      @@voiceofreason2674 Randall Cunningham took hits very well and he was like 6'5 lol

    • @donovanwilliams29
      @donovanwilliams29 2 роки тому

      @@voiceofreason2674
      Mark Ingram like 5'9 220 -225 lbs and considered a bruiser especially early in career after 10 years as rb careers often said to last 3, 4 yrs. had great career even with knee injury. Renfro is 180 max bruiser never could be used in any context with him. His game in my opinion is possessions catcher. Catches pass goes down possibl keep chains moving. He not getting yards after catch unless there is a blown coverage. Randy Moss and Terrell Owens are yards after catch receivers

  • @quentingraff1510
    @quentingraff1510 2 роки тому +355

    I’ve followed you for awhile now and didn’t realize we played against eachother in football back in the day. You put together some of the best videos and always have interesting stories. Keep it up man!

    • @scooterdooo
      @scooterdooo 2 роки тому +5

      This real👀

    • @KTOfootball
      @KTOfootball  2 роки тому +77

      Really? Who did you play for? That’s epic!

    • @quentingraff1510
      @quentingraff1510 2 роки тому +75

      @@KTOfootball I'm talking hs, we were trash but played for vallivue.

    • @KTOfootball
      @KTOfootball  2 роки тому +91

      @@quentingraff1510 what year? I remember we were supposed to beat you guys easily my senior year but got crushed instead. I slipped on your field like a million times 😂

    • @quentingraff1510
      @quentingraff1510 2 роки тому +50

      @@KTOfootball I graduated in 2014, that all grass field was not the easiest to run on!

  • @aditmukalel6277
    @aditmukalel6277 2 роки тому +296

    NFL throwback and KTO posted 2 vids within the same hour on the same topic. Doesnt get better than that

    • @pri9867
      @pri9867 2 роки тому +11

      i legit just watched that video, check new videos and see this XD

    • @vitoepic5329
      @vitoepic5329 2 роки тому +3

      Lol

    • @KawikaChing
      @KawikaChing 2 роки тому +5

      So crazy!!

    • @ZzzachR
      @ZzzachR 2 роки тому +4

      Just watched the NFL throwback one then refreshed and saw this one🤣

    • @paulywoodtheprince
      @paulywoodtheprince 2 роки тому +7

      I thought I was Tripping, but yeah great ideas are Catch

  • @Boltman12278
    @Boltman12278 2 роки тому +438

    Doug flutie was my favorite qb when I was in HS. He made me believe I could be a QB at 5' 9". I was in marching band but we had great scrimmage games against brass players. I always played QB. My mom wouldn't let me play FB.

    • @jduce5641
      @jduce5641 2 роки тому +24

      That sucks your mom didn’t let you play

    • @Boltman12278
      @Boltman12278 2 роки тому +57

      @@jduce5641 ill never forget that choice in MS. I could have rebel'd but I chose the best option. I met my wife there and we have an amazing daughter.

    • @KawikaChing
      @KawikaChing 2 роки тому +38

      @@Boltman12278 turned out for the good then! 😁

    • @christopherbaby3842
      @christopherbaby3842 2 роки тому +1

      First guy I thought of for this list was Flutie.

    • @moopert86
      @moopert86 2 роки тому +10

      My wife's still got an unopened box of the original Flutie Flakes. He's the guy who made her like football and the Bills.

  • @scifyry
    @scifyry Рік тому +8

    Enjoy seeing guys like Flutie with an unconventional path to NFL success. Also goes for Moon, Warner, Wake, etc.

  • @jadenmolter-castiglioni8661
    @jadenmolter-castiglioni8661 2 роки тому +32

    If you put Kyler Murray, Steve Smith Sr., Darren Sproles, Antoine Winfield Sr., and Darrell Green on the same NFL team.
    Takes small ball to a whole different level.

    • @cyancyclone5642
      @cyancyclone5642 2 роки тому +5

      I would love to see that lmao

    • @big8dog887
      @big8dog887 2 роки тому +3

      Don't forget Sam Mills.

    • @qpeocn
      @qpeocn 2 роки тому +1

      Don't forget Spud Webb. 😂

    • @alexchettiath7214
      @alexchettiath7214 2 роки тому +2

      Throw Bob Sanders in there and you got yourself a domination.

    • @sajonicalvo1886
      @sajonicalvo1886 2 роки тому

      Triton Holliday as KR Jakeem Grant as PR… it’s a wrap!

  • @OkagaCalifornia
    @OkagaCalifornia 2 роки тому +5

    Bruh it's always a good day when I get back home and I open up UA-cam to a new KTO video, thanks man.

  • @steamedclams5689
    @steamedclams5689 2 роки тому +26

    Kto I would like it if you made a video about Jim Thorpe. He played just about everything you could imagine.

    • @bigbeauf_____3167
      @bigbeauf_____3167 2 роки тому +2

      Which sports did Jim Thorpe not play in his career?

    • @benjamindang5384
      @benjamindang5384 2 роки тому +7

      @@bigbeauf_____3167 pretty much just soccer (which was still a niche sport played mostly by Irish immigrants). He was a professional baseball and football player, world champion ballet dancer and snooker player, on top of being an Olympic triathlete, and gold medal-winning pentathlete and decathlete, winning gold in the 1912 decathlon while wearing mismatched shoes because his were stolen that day.

    • @bigbeauf_____3167
      @bigbeauf_____3167 2 роки тому +1

      @@benjamindang5384 Didn't he play tennis and golf, too?

    • @steamedclams5689
      @steamedclams5689 2 роки тому +2

      @yossarian greatest athlete ever.

    • @PantsofVance
      @PantsofVance Рік тому

      @@bigbeauf_____3167 Different Jim Thorpe.

  • @ryantayk9703
    @ryantayk9703 2 роки тому +1

    I was just rewatching some old video today. Perfect time for an upload!

  • @SquidwardsGooch
    @SquidwardsGooch 2 роки тому +14

    “short quarterbacks would have the best mobility among their peers”
    Justin Herbert: And thats where I took it personally

  • @austinhaddox2909
    @austinhaddox2909 2 роки тому +6

    Love the video! As an economist who researches comparable advantage in markets, I thought I’d give a shot at explaining some of the X-factor differences not discussed here.
    So there’s some very interesting phenomena happening here.
    Statistically: So the natural distribution shown is that of quarterbacks who have played in the NCAA rather than that of the entire population. That means that though under 6’ is one standard deviation away from the average while those over 6’5” are also one standard deviation away from the average. However, when looking at the entire population, 6’5” is much further away from the average meaning that there are fewer people to “choose from”. Therefore a quarterback who is 5’9” is much more likely to have more natural talent than a quarterback who is 6’8” as they would have to had to beat out more comparative options. This means they’re more likely to overcome the shortcomings (pun intended) of their height with better talent or skills to succeed.
    Fundamentally: The challenges of short vs tall quarterbacks are fundamentally different. Short quarterbacks are far more self limiting as their shorter height means that they might struggle to throw over defenders and their shorter arms means that their throwing power could be limited. Both of these are overcome with talent, skill and experience which stated above is statistically in short quarterbacks’ favor. With their boosts in mobility being a positive also to help mitigate these issues.
    While tall quarterbacks have a fundamentally different issue. Tall quarterbacks can easily see over their defensive line and benefit from longer arms and therefore more throw power. This means that they would be much more suited for a pocket passer roll. As their scrambling abilities are worse than that of short quarterbacks, tall quarterbacks are much more reliant on their offensive lines and therefore require more help from teammates. Though they do benefit from higher top speeds, their acceleration would be much lower, have bigger bodies to catch and are not agile enough to avoid defenders meaning that they need to throw to receivers proportionally more than short quarterbacks as they don’t have the other option. Also, just like you said, they are often boosted in the draft as their height is seen as a comparable advantage which means that they are likely going to a worse team (assuming their picked in the first round). Which means their ensemble cast is probably worse which they need to rely on more to begin with. So you’re essentially putting a worse quarterback that needs to depend on their teammates more on a worse team and expecting them to be great.
    Though you could argue that height is a comparable advantage and that these people would have never been able to cut it as a quarterback if they were shorter meaning that NFL short quarterbacks would always be more competitive. It could also be that those who would have been all time great tall quarterbacks could have decided to play other sports where their physicality could be better suited like basketball and therefore wouldn’t be in the player pool. Either way, short quarterbacks are likely to be better if they can overcome their faults while tall quarterbacks can’t really ever overcome their issues and just kinda have to deal with them. There are real boundaries where short quarterbacks cannot succeed whatsoever such as a 5’4” quarterback while a quarterback over 7’ may be able to play but would struggle with injuries and other issues more.

  • @Flyinclutchman206
    @Flyinclutchman206 2 роки тому +6

    That play by Russ you added from 2017 BEWILDERS me every time I watch it. It’s like a movie a dream it’s so divine. Go hawks

  • @robertortiz8610
    @robertortiz8610 2 роки тому

    The music to end the video is why I watch. The way you end videos gives me goosebumps every time. Love it.

  • @Heyitsann
    @Heyitsann 2 роки тому +6

    Ohh as a Seahawks fan that last clips is the embodiment of our team, constantly giving us heart attacks after heart attacks

  • @kenthehobo
    @kenthehobo 2 роки тому +34

    I love Flutie. He really got shafted by the league

    • @AdderTude
      @AdderTude 2 роки тому +4

      Height discrimination, yo. Such BS is what cost Buffalo their playoff run back then. I mean...what sense does it make to bench the shorter QB - who's doing insanely well for your team and is the reason you're in the playoffs to begin with - in favor of the taller guy who is the biggest liability?

    • @donovanwilliams29
      @donovanwilliams29 2 роки тому +1

      No he didn't get shafted. Dude had a pedestrian average at best career in college football and gets 1 lucky ass hail mary pass completion to win a game at the end of regulation. That's it. Those are the FACTS

    • @joshgarbemusic
      @joshgarbemusic 2 роки тому +2

      @@donovanwilliams29 if he played a full career in the NFL he would have won super bowls. He dominated the CFL then came to the Bills and made them into a playoff team. He was hands down the most exciting player I've ever seen on a football field. He was way above average.

    • @donovanwilliams29
      @donovanwilliams29 2 роки тому +1

      @@joshgarbemusic
      You are out your rabid ass mind.
      1st off flutie not winning no fkn Superbowl
      2nd who da hell you think is in CFL. A bunch of players who were not good enough to be in the NFL in the first place. Whether being cut ,undrafted. Those who in demand get to play in NFL.
      3rd came to Buffalo and made them a play off team GTFOH stop smoking that shit. The hell you think Jim Kelly (class of 83 greatest QB class ever Elway and Dan Marino etc) did in Buffalo, lead them to 4 straight Superbowl
      Never was flutie way above average
      He was mediocre to average at best.
      STOP IT WITH THE NONSENSE

    • @thomasdemay9805
      @thomasdemay9805 2 роки тому

      @@donovanwilliams29 alot of very successful NFL QBs have Pedestrian records in college. A college QB record doesn't mean a whole lot in the NFL especially in the past when college offenses were geared to the run or even option offenses.

  • @ryanschuler9827
    @ryanschuler9827 2 роки тому +2

    Love this channel top quality content Everytime 🔥🔥

  • @zachkoziol5228
    @zachkoziol5228 2 роки тому

    I get so hyped for these videos, you do great work

  • @pjtwelve
    @pjtwelve 2 роки тому +4

    I love it when KTO uploads

    • @KawikaChing
      @KawikaChing 2 роки тому +1

      Same. I think it should be a calendar thing honestly😂😂

  • @izzythedude
    @izzythedude 2 роки тому +9

    KTO has been GRINDING these videos out lately!! Love the content man keep it up and merry Christmas!

  • @razaleesent.1579
    @razaleesent.1579 2 роки тому

    This is content! Like really, this was so fun and entertaining. Really good concept to base content around! Thanks for giving us what we didn't know we wanted 👊

  • @gauchoconponcho
    @gauchoconponcho 2 роки тому +1

    As always, it's a pleasure watching your videos.

  • @rabbi4skin666
    @rabbi4skin666 2 роки тому +114

    Dan McGwire had to be one of the coolest looking QBs

    • @KawikaChing
      @KawikaChing 2 роки тому +9

      His thumbnail pic alone got me like:😮😮😮

    • @MrSomeRandomGuy2012
      @MrSomeRandomGuy2012 2 роки тому +19

      Definitely the QB you create in Madden.

    • @Phillygoat1983
      @Phillygoat1983 2 роки тому

      Wow the McGwire brothers are tall Mark is 6ft5

    • @ia5662
      @ia5662 2 роки тому +2

      looks arrogant to me honestly - his lack of skills finally caught up with his size in the NFL

    • @donovanwilliams29
      @donovanwilliams29 2 роки тому +1

      @@ia5662
      Exactly. Living off his brothers hype

  • @kaylonreese5810
    @kaylonreese5810 2 роки тому +7

    Man I gotta give respect to fluttie ✊🏾 that’s a relentless attitude

  • @101ravensfan
    @101ravensfan 2 роки тому +1

    Lol the NFL Throwbacks channel just posted a video exactly like this. They examined Qbs who were 6’6” and taller, and Qbs who were 5’11 and smaller.
    Excellent work as always KTO. Love the content

  • @robertmcconkey1230
    @robertmcconkey1230 2 роки тому +8

    I remember watching Flutie as a kid in the Grey cup. Seeing him go to Buffalo was gut check as the Argos were not the same without him.

    • @boomznbladez405
      @boomznbladez405 2 роки тому

      I didnt like the bills, but my dad was a fan of flutie when he was in Chicago. He kept up with him in the CFL despite it not being Aired here at all back in the 90s, when he came back, he was PUMPED, and i fell in love with that playstyle and that guy.
      CFL/Argos lost a treasure the NFL wasnt going to appreciate :(.
      Shit, hes one reason why the CFL is even recognized down here in the States, similar to how Kurt Warner coming to the NFL made people look at Arena Football a bit more closely(albeit not much more)

    • @donovanwilliams29
      @donovanwilliams29 2 роки тому

      @@boomznbladez405
      No he was people already knew of the CFL because of Warren Moon a real hall of fame QB

  • @azalli
    @azalli 2 роки тому +3

    The Seahawks guy on the far right of the thumbnail looks like the madden players I made as a kid

  • @chrisofchris
    @chrisofchris 2 роки тому

    The end of your videos are always so hype!

  • @MahkiWright
    @MahkiWright 2 роки тому

    Good vid keep it up man 🔥🔥

  • @emkayusa
    @emkayusa 2 роки тому +82

    Doug Flutie was amazing, if he was given a longer time to develop, he would have had a great NFL career. The Bills finally have a QB with the same athletic ability and heart. But also the size and strength to go with it, you all know,who I’m talking about.

    • @alanparedes2034
      @alanparedes2034 2 роки тому +3

      No. Who?

    • @alopezr8
      @alopezr8 2 роки тому +24

      Mitchell Trubisky, obviously

    • @cope847
      @cope847 2 роки тому +1

      @@alopezr8 NVP!

    • @aldibargainhaulsandthrifty6393
      @aldibargainhaulsandthrifty6393 2 роки тому

      Mitch Trubisky, it's definitely obvious.

    • @ia5662
      @ia5662 2 роки тому +3

      No - Flutie didn't need any time to develop. Did you watch the video? He WAS fully developed, and still had a great NFL career. It was the idiotic coaches and owners who constantly doubted the man even though he was a proven winner right in front of their faces. The front offices, scouts and coaching staffs are to blame for the shortness of Flutie's NFL tenure. If what you meant was that had they realized this immediately and kept in in the NFL the entire time, then yes, I agree being allowed to develop more would have helped pad his NFL stats and legacy. Maybe going and winning in another league is what developed his skills more so though, we'll never know.

  • @alexgrissom3513
    @alexgrissom3513 2 роки тому +4

    The Doug flutie story would be like Brandon weeden joining the panthers and getting to the pro bowl while leading them to the playoffs. Insane

  • @andrewcarter215
    @andrewcarter215 2 роки тому +1

    And once again, another great video!

  • @steelymcafeeliac1050
    @steelymcafeeliac1050 Рік тому

    This video was Amazing! Got me thinking about how all of these QBs have baseball in their background and the conversation could almost change from Tall and Short to Pitchers and shortstops as QBs.

  • @ayelmao1224
    @ayelmao1224 2 роки тому +6

    Doug Flutie: certified Short King™

  • @KawikaChing
    @KawikaChing 2 роки тому +65

    Fyi: I've noticed that taller qbs tend to have longer motions than shorter guys. Guess it's a natural thing
    (Edit) Actually, an exception would be kyler Murray's, who has a longer release than most small guys due to his baseball experience
    (Second edit) Also, there were/are some mobile taller quarterbacks. Examples: Feleipe Franks, trevor lawrence, cardale jones, and Logan Thomas, at Virginia tech anyways. Guys like Logan Thomas had their quarterback talent wasted after being converted to another position, but did well.

    • @lavanderwilliams794
      @lavanderwilliams794 2 роки тому +4

      You forgot Randall Cunningham, the prototype q scrambling QB.

    • @KawikaChing
      @KawikaChing 2 роки тому +2

      @@lavanderwilliams794 was he THAT tall tho?

    • @lavanderwilliams794
      @lavanderwilliams794 2 роки тому +3

      @@KawikaChing He was listed at 6'4", but he was actually about an inch taller.

    • @quandaledinglell5671
      @quandaledinglell5671 2 роки тому +1

      @@KawikaChing Josh Allen is listed at 6’5

    • @markeywestskies6503
      @markeywestskies6503 2 роки тому +3

      What about Hebert with the Bolts...he's superior in arm talent, iq, and athleticism and he's like 6'5" or 6'6"

  • @ZeenoYT
    @ZeenoYT Рік тому

    love your vids bro, had no idea about flutie coming in well after being 35, good vid

  • @hondo84
    @hondo84 2 роки тому +1

    Great video, sir!!! very creative. You have done a video on the craziest college football season, but I think you should do the second craziest which was 1990.

    • @hondo84
      @hondo84 2 роки тому

      That said, part of the reason little running QBs did not make it, is because in college nobody could catch them. In the pros the DLs are almost as fast as the running QB. Often times they ran wishbone/flexbone/I formation etc. This is of course prior to the spread option which ends careers for QBs in the pros. It is, however, nice to have a 4-5 year career making 10 million before your leg is snapped in half or your shoulder is pulled out of socket. Trying to keep the hyperbole to a minimum but there is a lot of truth here.

  • @BroadswordMedia
    @BroadswordMedia 2 роки тому +8

    Wow! I'm actually pretty happy I have some things in common with Doug flutie. I've been 5'9 since I was like 16 I think, but in my early twenties as well as my late teen years my weight was usually around 175 lb so honestly I just think it's pretty cool that someone who was good enough to make it to the NFL was the same size I was at the same age. Obviously he's a lot older than me since I'm actually 33 years old now and I kind of let myself go and I weigh over 200 lb now damn it. LOL

  • @zachfoster7603
    @zachfoster7603 2 роки тому +31

    Wilson was my inspiration to continue football, I came into my first varsity year at 5’5 165. I was one of the few dudes on the team that could take a hit and give one. Playing RB was fun, cause NOBODY wanted to go head up, cause I’d just get lower than them

  • @robertriverajr.8135
    @robertriverajr.8135 2 роки тому

    can’t wait for you to make a video about the 2021 college football season !

  • @RayCharles444
    @RayCharles444 2 роки тому

    This is an awesome video, very insightful... thank you KTO! We don't deserve you

  • @TheTEN24
    @TheTEN24 2 роки тому +11

    That’s unreal Flutie got benched. Also Murray is not 5’10 lmao. Crazy to see no big QBs succeed

    • @douglaspaulson9190
      @douglaspaulson9190 2 роки тому +1

      Everywhere I look I see Murray listed as 5'10 are you saying he's shorter or taller than that?

    • @trilla1378
      @trilla1378 2 роки тому +1

      @@douglaspaulson9190 I remember hearing 5’9 when he was at Oklahoma

    • @douglaspaulson9190
      @douglaspaulson9190 2 роки тому

      @@trilla1378 its not uncommon for 20-22 year old men to grow a few inches. Thats usually when growth stops.

    • @TheTEN24
      @TheTEN24 2 роки тому +1

      @@douglaspaulson9190 shorter he looks like 5’8 lmao

    • @johnortan1890
      @johnortan1890 2 роки тому

      @@douglaspaulson9190 a few inches? Lol it happens but it is rare, very uncommon.

  • @charliebaucum
    @charliebaucum 2 роки тому +16

    The only thing I hate about this channel is that KTO doesn’t make a new video every day.
    Great stuff, man. Keep it up!

    • @Cooper_zzz
      @Cooper_zzz 2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/dxVJblyAzow/v-deo.html

  • @nicholaswright5064
    @nicholaswright5064 2 роки тому +1

    Another KTO upload, another banger.

  • @rubegoldberg1225
    @rubegoldberg1225 2 роки тому +2

    You know it’s a good day when both @KTO and @Jxmy upload on the same day

  • @JGRG07
    @JGRG07 2 роки тому +7

    I was a 5'7" qb in high school and dominated. I decided to pursue track in college since I only got offers from D2 and JUCO offers for football and major D1 offers for track

    • @Poway19
      @Poway19 2 роки тому

      That’s pretty cool. What races?

  • @loganmoreau7569
    @loganmoreau7569 2 роки тому +5

    I’m guessing you did not plan for NFL Throwback to post this same video a topic an hour prior 😂

  • @daltonanderson2918
    @daltonanderson2918 2 роки тому

    Playing catch-up on some videos now. I think this is great would love to see these for all positions. Though I understand if these didn't do the traffic necessary for that

  • @SeeingSebastian
    @SeeingSebastian 2 роки тому

    Really nice vid bud! 👍🏽

  • @andrewmeyer4124
    @andrewmeyer4124 2 роки тому +5

    So, what you're telling me, is that NFL scouts judge QBs on their height the same way women do?

  • @jakecathey7061
    @jakecathey7061 2 роки тому +30

    Justin Herbert will probably be the best tall quarterback

    • @johnchedsey1306
      @johnchedsey1306 2 роки тому +6

      Just looked up: 6'6! I realized he was tall, but not that tall. So far it's looking like he might very well win that title...as well as showing potential to simply be an all time great.

    • @AndersonNorden
      @AndersonNorden 2 роки тому

      Def not

    • @jakecathey7061
      @jakecathey7061 2 роки тому +2

      @@AndersonNorden who then?

    • @Sh0n0
      @Sh0n0 2 роки тому

      @@jakecathey7061 patrice mahome

    • @holocade4908
      @holocade4908 2 роки тому

      How is a guy with a losing record gonna be the best

  • @censoredname3195
    @censoredname3195 2 роки тому

    Great vid as always

  • @nuklearbakon5884
    @nuklearbakon5884 2 роки тому

    Man just doesn’t run out of bangers🔥🔥

  • @moopert86
    @moopert86 2 роки тому +8

    Guys like Flutie, Brees (yea he was called too short too), Wilson, and Murray really need to change the way NFL teams look at shorter QBs. If you've got the arm and the head for football, give them a damn chance.

    • @johnortan1890
      @johnortan1890 2 роки тому

      Modern day rules easy on qbs is why shorter qbs started being drafted in the 2010s.

    • @moopert86
      @moopert86 2 роки тому

      @@johnortan1890 They always deserved a shot. Doug Flutie played very well when given a chance in Buffalo in the late 90's early 2000's.

    • @johnortan1890
      @johnortan1890 2 роки тому

      @@moopert86 it was risky though unless a team had a great oline to prevent the qb from being crushed.

  • @kilopo3030
    @kilopo3030 2 роки тому +10

    For Russell Wilson, I think you gotta give the owners and the coaches a lot credit. They sign the infamous Back up for the packers Matt Flynn a lot of money to be their QB. But Wilson won the spot and they let him compete for it. Owners could’ve been a duck about it all but they trusted the people they hired.

    • @anonymike8280
      @anonymike8280 Рік тому

      Matt Flynn was paid veteran backup money, more or less. He did play well when he started in two stints with Green Bay though. It's a business, and Flynn walked away with lifetime financial independence.

  • @ir5682
    @ir5682 2 роки тому

    Great content once again

  • @SimpaticoReal
    @SimpaticoReal 2 роки тому +1

    That awkward moment when KTO's video comes out an hour after a similarly titled NFL Throwback video.
    Love your content bruh, just a funny coincidence.

  • @siroohhyee9205
    @siroohhyee9205 2 роки тому +4

    We short guys do have to work 10 times harder than men with height in order to be considered “good”

  • @Kenxclout
    @Kenxclout 2 роки тому +13

    What do you call a person missing 75% of their spine?
    A quarterback

  • @Nickster_28
    @Nickster_28 2 роки тому +1

    Really cool video KTO! This goes to show you that being tall isn't always an advantage. Better to be on the shorter side when it comes to playing quarterback in the NFL.

  • @jedipoodoo7710
    @jedipoodoo7710 2 роки тому +1

    Great vid learned some new things. I never knew that mark mcgwire had a brother who played in the nfl.

  • @abcdefg2050
    @abcdefg2050 2 роки тому +10

    I’m 6’4 and I feel freakishly tall sometimes. I couldn’t imagine playing in the nfl at 6’6 with all the hits to the legs

    • @portee9113
      @portee9113 2 роки тому

      Yeah it's pretty well known that agility severely declines once you are above 6ft or 6ft3... thats why its always amazing to see people like Derek Henry or DK Metcalf do their thing. They are freaks to be that big and move like they do. But as for the quarterback, size is only going to help you so much against defensive linemen.... whereas being small, fast, and agile can help you so much more in other ways.
      Joe Montana was 6ft2, but he played small fast and agile for how tall he was.

    • @abcdefg2050
      @abcdefg2050 2 роки тому

      @@portee9113 yea I feel like 6’2 is the perfect height for a qb bc u still can move like your short but still have the strength and other gifts a tall dude has

    • @voiceofreason2674
      @voiceofreason2674 2 роки тому

      Bingo and that’s not even QBs that’s every position. I heard Saints defensive end Cameron Jordan 64 or 65 talk about staying healthy by focusing on bull rushing rather than edge rushing cuz it kept his legs safer. And he’s an athletic freak who could dominate any way he chose much like Peppers or JJ Watt

    • @johnortan1890
      @johnortan1890 2 роки тому

      @@portee9113 Henry mainly just runs straight foward and straight up.

  • @chocolatte6157
    @chocolatte6157 2 роки тому +3

    So, a 6’3” QB with good mobility is the most desirable.

    • @timgora9116
      @timgora9116 2 роки тому +1

      Mahomes in a nutshell lol

  • @zachpopp6714
    @zachpopp6714 2 роки тому +2

    I would like to see a video for the height outliers for all positions especially rb and wr.

  • @GTgaming69
    @GTgaming69 2 роки тому

    Outro play/music gives me chills every video i swear

  • @simon_carrick8198
    @simon_carrick8198 2 роки тому +3

    I’d argue Wilson’s deep ball is much better than Murray’s

  • @ckobo84
    @ckobo84 2 роки тому +3

    Fran Tarkenton was definitely under 6'. If we get out the tape measure I'm willing to bet Drew Brees was a fraction under 6' as well.

  • @whiteknignt4816
    @whiteknignt4816 2 роки тому +1

    Great video,how about doing one tall tight ends vs short tight ends,or the smallest def.ends.

  • @barbaragordon6177
    @barbaragordon6177 Рік тому

    Well done video. Will share.

  • @kylethomas2993
    @kylethomas2993 2 роки тому +4

    It's probably not that having a tall QB at like 6'7'' or 6'8'' is bad but since there just aren't as many people that tall your less likely to find many QBs of that height meaning those few QBs are less likely to be good. Size matters, but it is far from the only thing

    • @big8dog887
      @big8dog887 2 роки тому +2

      You wonder how many more potential great QBs of that height there would be if basketball didn't exist.

    • @johnortan1890
      @johnortan1890 2 роки тому

      Usually at that height guys play basketball. Or if on the heavy side they get placed at oline in high school and just continue gaining weight for oline.

  • @pika9752
    @pika9752 2 роки тому +11

    There's no way Murray is 5"10 dude looks 5"8 out there lol

  • @Jgoldberg04
    @Jgoldberg04 2 роки тому

    right as you popped that clip up at the end i knew what play it was

  • @ieatcrapppppp
    @ieatcrapppppp 2 роки тому

    great video. wish it was longer

  • @ztrisk
    @ztrisk 2 роки тому +6

    Does Murray really have a stronger arm than Wilson tho?

    • @KawikaChing
      @KawikaChing 2 роки тому +1

      He must have a stronger arm now than wilson...

    • @voiceofreason2674
      @voiceofreason2674 2 роки тому

      I think Wilson can still flash some zip on the ball that Murray can’t. But throwing the ball deep has less to do with strength than placement. Drew Brees even when he was old could flick a deep seam bomb that dropped right where it needed to.

  • @nickregalado8641
    @nickregalado8641 2 роки тому +4

    Hell yeah showing the smaller guys some love!

  • @DWILSON98
    @DWILSON98 2 роки тому +1

    Quality over Quantity. Another Great Video from the Legend Himself

  • @ArthurBeowulfRobinhoodIvanhoe
    @ArthurBeowulfRobinhoodIvanhoe 2 роки тому

    NFL throwback and KTO posting on same topic and same time amazing.

  • @tedskins
    @tedskins 2 роки тому +6

    I'm still skeptical about Kyler even being 5'10" he looks even shorter than that.

    • @qpeocn
      @qpeocn 2 роки тому

      Im convinced he's 5'9 and has tissues inserted on his soles for that extra inch

    • @tedskins
      @tedskins 2 роки тому +1

      @@qpeocn Kyler looks like a make a wish kid out there 🤣

    • @qpeocn
      @qpeocn 2 роки тому +5

      @@tedskins its the helmet man. I'm telling you 😂. His helmet is disproportionate to his overall figure lol. To me, he always looks like a kid playing peewee football.

    • @AndersonNorden
      @AndersonNorden 2 роки тому +1

      @@tedskins when he runs dude 💀

    • @SNIP3RxEL1T3
      @SNIP3RxEL1T3 2 роки тому

      @@AndersonNorden toddler lost in target

  • @funzjag
    @funzjag 2 роки тому +3

    As a short guy myself, I really enjoyed this video.

  • @aviation_hunky2484
    @aviation_hunky2484 2 роки тому

    Hi love ur vids man

  • @jcox8418
    @jcox8418 Рік тому +1

    I'd be interested in seeing a video that really digs into the minute details that make the perfect player for each position. Stuff like foot and hand size, weight, and body type. I know teams have a standard they compare rookies to. There are always QBs that they say have hands that are too small. I know some body types seem to dominate certain positions, like mesomorphic QBs, endomorphic linemen, and ectomorphic WRs.

  • @joeanderson444
    @joeanderson444 2 роки тому +8

    I remember Nick Foles being listed at 6'7" earlier in his career in some circles. He would far exceed this list!

  • @mentalhealthnetwork
    @mentalhealthnetwork 2 роки тому +12

    Flutie was benched by the owner because they had paid Johnson a large pile of cash and the owner wanted value for that pile.
    After that playoff loss, even the coach knew and admitted it was a dumb move.

    • @donovanwilliams29
      @donovanwilliams29 2 роки тому +1

      Wasn't dumb move Johnson better qb

    • @Jjfortyfive
      @Jjfortyfive 2 роки тому

      @@donovanwilliams29 thanks Lombardi

    • @donovanwilliams29
      @donovanwilliams29 2 роки тому

      @@Jjfortyfive
      Johnson was the better QB and lasted longer as a viable back up

    • @Jjfortyfive
      @Jjfortyfive 2 роки тому

      @@donovanwilliams29 is this skip bayless?

    • @donovanwilliams29
      @donovanwilliams29 2 роки тому

      @@Jjfortyfive
      No not bayless as he's corny af
      But I see if you trying to refute logic then your metal skullcap is on extra tight while you in a lightning storm playing the game of wait for it
      Johnson was the better QB. Period

  • @tannerigonia3234
    @tannerigonia3234 Рік тому

    Never thought I'd see my Winnipeg Blue Bombers in a KTO video but I did! lol

  • @GunExtendo
    @GunExtendo 2 роки тому

    Kto always 🔥

  • @jonathancofer6537
    @jonathancofer6537 2 роки тому +5

    A fact is that size doesn’t matter. It’s how you play

  • @brodyschaubhut2606
    @brodyschaubhut2606 2 роки тому +7

    Although brees was 6 foot. He is easily one of the greatest. He and so many other "small" qbs have been extremely influential to smaller quarterbacks

    • @voiceofreason2674
      @voiceofreason2674 2 роки тому +1

      Brees was between 6 and 6’1” and he had long arms and huge hands. Yes he was “short” but I would never call him small. He never could throw the ball as hard as Favre Peyton or Rodgers but he had good zip on it til he hit the wall

    • @johnortan1890
      @johnortan1890 2 роки тому

      Brees was not a small qb, just a short qb pre 2010s. But was not exactly small. I watched the 2007 cowboys vs packers game, after Favre got hurt and Rodgers looked small compared to the size of players back then. Rodgers is the same height as Romo and taller than Brees, but looked smaller overall on the field.

  • @Matt02341
    @Matt02341 Рік тому

    At a local shopping mall outside Boston the connecting roadway is called Flutie Pass referring to the Hail Mary pass he made to his roommate during the college bowl game. I believe Bernie Kosar was the opposing team qb

  • @pedrogonzalez6088
    @pedrogonzalez6088 2 роки тому

    Great video

  • @youtubeuser987
    @youtubeuser987 2 роки тому +3

    Short kings rise up ✊😏