Narcissistic Psychopaths are Molding our Society w/ Richard Grannon

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  • Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
  • In this Episode: I chat with Richard Grannon about the concept of narcissistic psychopathy and its impact on power structures and society. He delves into the characteristics of narcissistic psychopaths, their delusional and power-hungry nature, and their ability to manipulate and control others. The discussion highlights the dangers of narcissistic psychopathy becoming the dominant influence in societal structures and the need for cynicism and resistance. It also touches on the role of fantasy and ideology in shaping society, using examples like Facebook as a platform influenced by the owner's pathology. The conversation emphasizes the need for systemic collapse and rebirth to address the pervasive influence of narcissistic psychopathy. We discuss the dynamics of being internalized by a cult leader and becoming a part of their system. Richard explains how individuals in a cult become mini-me’s, adopting the fragility, hypersensitivity, and narcissistic traits of the leader. We also get into the division and the manipulation of dividing lines by those in power. Richard emphasizes that the true dividing line in humanity is between humans and psychopaths, and that everything else is a distraction. He also discusses the creation of frames of reference by those in power and the limitations of our freedoms within those frames. We conclude our chat by exploring the idea of controlling our own fantasies and choosing healthier ones to navigate the abusive relationship with our culture.
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    Chapters
    00:00 Introduction and Background
    02:34 Defining Narcissistic Psychopathy
    06:00 The Will and Intentionality in Society
    08:25 The Risks and Consequences of Seeking Power
    12:23 The Importance of Cynicism and Resistance
    16:13 Fantasy and Ideology in Shaping Society
    17:33 The Need for Systemic Collapse and Rebirth
    36:19 The True Dividing Line in Humanity
    44:26 Manipulation of Frames of Reference
    54:21 Terrifying Choices: Control or Free Fall
    01:02:34 Controlling Our Own Fantasies
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 104

  • @redmoondesignbeth9119
    @redmoondesignbeth9119 28 днів тому +40

    I was the children's director for a domestic abuse shelter requiring me to understand early childhood development. I've seen too many very small kids being warehouse in day care where the ratio was maybe 3 for 20 toddlers. I've seen too many small kids raised by cartoons. Now everyone wonders why we have Cartoon Adults with no social skills or values.

    • @DadaSophia-rk2kj
      @DadaSophia-rk2kj 6 днів тому

      Socializing is a learned skill...One gets it by interacting with others,be it in school,at home , playground.
      If one lacks social skills it's because they don't want to learn them.

  • @gimmelyod
    @gimmelyod 20 днів тому +5

    So, before the 2-minute mark, the guest managed to describe the majority of politicians in a single breath. I'm not joking.

  • @littlejohn8100
    @littlejohn8100 25 днів тому +7

    The only important dividing line is between people and psychopaths. Exactly! I think you pinpointed the center of the most important issues we are trying (unsuccessfully) to deal with.
    This is eye opening. I wish everyone would watch it.

    • @markvicente7
      @markvicente7  25 днів тому +1

      Thank you. Please share it as far and wide as you can!

  • @camdogtaek
    @camdogtaek 28 днів тому +16

    Lovely discussion and the conference yall did was great. Hope people give it a watch. Speaking of Facebook, on a plane I sat next to one of those "moderating fact checker" chick's who got paid to word police... definitely ideologically infected.

    • @scandinaviansunset
      @scandinaviansunset 25 днів тому +2

      Indeed! I’ve only just recently watched a few of Mark’s WTF’s but he is a real “sleuth slayer!” Cheers to sharing these skills with us all eager curiosity seekers, on a quest for a healthier world! This is true climate change!🎉🌎⚖️👑❤️‍🩹💪🏻⭐️✌🏻

  • @darrenhudson9675
    @darrenhudson9675 27 днів тому +14

    I cannot believe that you explained EXACTLY how I have been feeling, the views I have been keeping to myself for the last 7 years.
    Until today I believed I was alone in my observations and the beliefs they have engendered in me.
    Namaste, In Lak' esh

    • @cheekytitaable
      @cheekytitaable 24 дні тому +3

      You are not alone. Hold on to your sanity, guard your heart, and stay grounded..

    • @TheNunududu
      @TheNunududu 21 день тому +2

      My theory is more of us feel this way than less. We've just been conditioned to stay silent. Or like they said, keep our messaging within a certain framework as to not rock the boat.

  • @jennifersmith9841
    @jennifersmith9841 28 днів тому +9

    Thank you for discussing the things my brain has been grappling with. You both are able to put in words the chaos that is in my head.

  • @hawkarae
    @hawkarae 28 днів тому +7

    Awesome. This means we know what to do.
    The non-conforming human cohort. Organized. Bohemian rhapsody.
    What we need is a moment of symbiotic good will and then bold action based on faith/gnosis. The whole lot will shift along as a matter of course.
    ❤❤❤❤

  • @eg4933
    @eg4933 28 днів тому +9

    We're obviously witnessing systems compromising more by day.

  • @JarmilaXymenaGorna
    @JarmilaXymenaGorna 13 днів тому +3

    Fascinating. Thank you gentlemen

  • @TheBlackelpie
    @TheBlackelpie 24 дні тому +6

    back in 2020 I commented on a sycophantic Fauci meme on facebook- just pointed out a few of the many things he was wrong about. OMG I was not expecting to be so viciously piled apon (happily mostly by strangers). I didn't go near fb for ages and still keep it at arms length.(again; happily). You guys have helped me gain a depth of understanding about why that happened. It all makes sense now! Thanks and all the best

    • @vilmalaurel8833
      @vilmalaurel8833 23 дні тому +1

      Most definitely. I learned back in 2016, they will come after you!

  • @nicoletalmadge7276
    @nicoletalmadge7276 10 днів тому +3

    Very excellent discussion..thx much❤

  • @ionatanuineill2178
    @ionatanuineill2178 28 днів тому +7

    Great guest, Mark. Richard's echoing my thoughts here and giving me more food for thought on top. 10/10

  • @lynnlavoy6778
    @lynnlavoy6778 29 днів тому +8

    Great insights! Thank you. Such a great convo!

  • @rkn2800
    @rkn2800 20 днів тому +4

    I agree and I don’t want to raise kids in this world because of that, so no kids for me.

  • @helenacuch9010
    @helenacuch9010 22 дні тому +2

    Hello
    Great conversation/ discussion
    Love from Adelaide Australia 🇦🇺

  • @corvus_knives
    @corvus_knives 28 днів тому +6

    Portugal, the first nation in the world. The Tordesilhas Treaty divided the whole world in two, not only south america, just look at the line they drew. Brasil 🇧🇷 was born from their expansionism, and our story is filled with their "kindness, good will, religious tolerance, and so on." Anyway, um abraço aos portugueses por terem nos dado o idioma mais bonito do mundo!

  • @trentbrocato3254
    @trentbrocato3254 27 днів тому +4

    The documentary “I am fish head“ covers this subject. It’s great, and I highly recommend it.

    • @markvicente7
      @markvicente7  27 днів тому +3

      Thanks for the suggestion! I will definitely check it out!

  • @filthyhermit
    @filthyhermit 27 днів тому +3

    Thank you for this conversation gentlemen. A very helpful yet quite intimidating guide to finding self and meaning in a world of imposed values.

  • @maryrebekah6218
    @maryrebekah6218 24 дні тому +3

    Mark!! You should interview HG Tudor!!!

  • @evfan8936
    @evfan8936 28 днів тому +3

    This discussion was Awsum . Thank you for the insights 😊

  • @erpthompsonqueen9130
    @erpthompsonqueen9130 26 днів тому +2

    Thank you. Watching from Alaska.
    🕊👍🕊

  • @apocalypta3620
    @apocalypta3620 28 днів тому +5

    Nothing says psychopathy louder than pictures of slums at the 'height of empire'.

    • @sunnyadams5842
      @sunnyadams5842 24 дні тому +2

      Yup!! Being able to see people live like that, while having the ability to relieve the suffering and choosing not to, is indeed the height of Narcissistic Psychopathy in action. Lack of Empathy.
      When my ex watched me starving, beginning to exhibit the beginnings of the extreme physical symptoms- it was a horrid, 18 year long Narcissistically Abusive entanglement which was coming to an end during COVID, which I was awfully sick with, going on 16 months at the Timeand he kept leaving me alone for weeks at a time. Just take it on faith, please! At the point I'm talking about I'd dropped 30 lbs in the 2+weeks since he'd seen me last! I'm barely 5'. I was skinny!! He told me he wasn't getting me food. He didn't CARE!! I'M STILL TRYING TO CATCH My BREATH?!! Narcissists and Psychopaths do not care in a way I cannot relate to all to at all.

    • @apocalypta3620
      @apocalypta3620 11 днів тому

      @@sunnyadams5842 Glad to hear he is your ex.

    • @HayatDaha
      @HayatDaha 4 дні тому

      ​@@sunnyadams5842 The very last concluding statement HITS HARD !
      Psychopaths do not care in a way, we cannot relate to at all.

  • @4Beats4Me
    @4Beats4Me 26 днів тому +5

    Don't people want membership in cult to avoid ownership of their own decisions?

  • @suzannah6044
    @suzannah6044 28 днів тому +3

    Wow, what a fascinating interview. Well done, Mark. I really enjoyed this. Thank you.
    Evolution has built into the human brain a central core of moral reasoning that is more or less universal. It is that central core that is missing in psychopaths. They are, to over simplify, people without empathy or conscience.

  • @trentbrocato3254
    @trentbrocato3254 27 днів тому +2

    Fantastic talk. Very informative

  • @williamsilva5701
    @williamsilva5701 11 днів тому +2

    They always have.

  • @SolidSiren
    @SolidSiren 10 днів тому +2

    I don't understand how anyone could be optimistic about technological advancement in the world we currently see.

    • @DadaSophia-rk2kj
      @DadaSophia-rk2kj 6 днів тому

      But didn't technology make it possible for you to watch this video?

  • @roberthansson8222
    @roberthansson8222 27 днів тому +3

    Very good topic!

  • @bah667
    @bah667 28 днів тому +5

    My sentiments exactly

  • @johannalove2jojo
    @johannalove2jojo 25 днів тому +2

    Hello from fellow Documentary maker from Norway here 🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️. Great content as always 🙏.
    I soulheartedly agree. .. and also feel the pain of seing the same and being alone in this point of view with mye peers.

  • @Harteo3917
    @Harteo3917 27 днів тому +3

    I have thought these things he has but i've chalked it down to my anxiety, depression, and my very curious brain making me have existential thoughts because right after i just shake it off and forget about it, it doesn't mean it's always a good thing even though it may lead us to the right conclusions but not always. There's so many angles, sides, and things to it that need to be considered first before thinking it may be right, too much existential thoughts isn't a good thing because it coincides with major rumination.
    But i just don't believe the entire system has to collapse and for huge violence to be involved, i may have these thoughts when i'm feeling super frustrated and dysregulated because we humans are capable of anything yes it's a possibility, and yes in some way it will get violent it always does in a corrupt world because people are pushed in that direction, especially from those up top like they do to protestors and law enforcement is super corrupt these days. But a lot of hard work has been done to avoid wars happening so that it doesn't lead to another world war to ever happen again at least. Apart from what's happening in ukraine right now i guess it has turned into a bit of a proxy war, but if nobody does anything everyone would have a lot to answer for too, either way they will have stuff to answer for but at least they saved an entire country even if they do have their own agendas too that's usually how it goes in our world they usually do, and no doubt we'll see the consequences of that next too.
    So you have to consider the different elements and how it's all playing into each other to better come to the right conclusions rather than relying on existentialism, and yes we do need to be cynical about things to a point but not overly cynical, we just need to learn when and where we need to be cynical about things. Which sadly in our world we have to learn this over time and through experience by ourselves which also happens quite naturally a lot of the time from what we take in and observe but it's a good way to balance things with your innocence with logic, intuition, instinct, skepticism, and any cynicism.
    I've found what's mainly clouded my judgement is being surrounded by people preventing me from thinking like this, stopping me from growing, and gaining my faculties in the slytist so i can't think clearly at all so they can manipulate me however they want for their lame gains that they'll probably get screwed over for later lol even if they don't think so. After going through stuff about cult behaviors and narcissism over the last few weeks it's very clear these are the people that have always constantly targeted me and caused problems for me it all makes so much sense now.
    But i still couldn't be that cynical about things when what i've also seen that at points in the almost 35 years i've been in this physical existence is you could be surprised how the direction of things actually go. I mean the situation with nixivm that could have gone a whole other direction and he could have won against all of you and you would still be in it but that's not what happened you all played it right and you won and getting justice like that for most of us isn't heard of much. You just have to have faith somehow things will always work out and that you did no doubt you had faith that you could make it through that even when it seemed all was lost in the thick of it with how much he messed with your minds.
    Although yeah it's way too hard right now to get anywhere but we've got to hold onto as much of that innocence as possible because of how connected it is to our happiness, joy, playfulness, and spirituality. It's not our faults when we're treated in such horrific ways we're meant to have that innocence because it's also part of our nature and we aren't all that bad at all because some people have done some very amazing good things that really helped people.

  • @4Beats4Me
    @4Beats4Me 27 днів тому +3

    Richard - Sir Richard. I am so proud. You kept me alive when I thought I was dead back in the day. Please let me ask: if/ when it dies to be reborn, will it not reappear, like genetics, no matter what

  • @sunnyadams5842
    @sunnyadams5842 24 дні тому +2

    Some one else's frame?? We all must keep track of what frame we are adopting and thinking through!! I believe We sre responsible for what we install in our brains!! If we install an unstable, Narcissistically psychotic Bubble and we have become Flying Monkeys for someonee,and are not aware of it, there was something that went before which prepped your mind in order to ready our mind for it and we need to fix it. I self- examine my mind ALL THE TIME. MEta- cognition is the greatest gift!!

  • @sibyllehartmann3417
    @sibyllehartmann3417 28 днів тому +5

    Totally disagree. I am an optimist at heart. We came this far with technology and even and optimistically with AI, I believe there is a plan for humanity. Just read some Ray Kurzweil and Michio Kaku, and our future is bright. Narcissistic dictators will come and go and fade into the distant past, we will evolve into an empathetic highly intelligent humanity. We won’t stay stuck in the past. Do you remember life without GPS? There is a book: “The good old times, they were terrible”

  • @helenacuch9010
    @helenacuch9010 22 дні тому +2

    People are losing their reasoning abilities

  • @bethanp3453
    @bethanp3453 27 днів тому +2

    I cant help feeling a little concerned for Bonnie Piesse at the stage. The 'vow' indeed.

  • @andrewprettyquick2070
    @andrewprettyquick2070 26 днів тому

    molding - making it become moldy.
    correct actually.

  • @Lemonbonbon
    @Lemonbonbon 26 днів тому +2

    Mark your story about the American melting pot reminds me of George Orwells Animal Farm, when the pigs start to sleep in the beds of the farm house. It was written into the rules that no animal should sleep in a man's bed. When the othrr animals go back and check the rules on the wall, the rule now says no animal shall sleep in a mand bed....with sheets. It's the slow creep of a new ideology, or the frog in boiling water.

  • @agatadabrowska8515
    @agatadabrowska8515 10 днів тому

    Thank you for it🙏remind me my dad and brother long discusions thank who I do see it too😅

  • @neal-stewart834
    @neal-stewart834 26 днів тому +2

    the hegailian dialectic is rampent and in an old playbook

  • @kristinmeyer489
    @kristinmeyer489 28 днів тому

    30:53 Just asking, but how do you know there was no significance to the numbers or other details that seem so strange to most of us?

  • @coldwhitespring5004
    @coldwhitespring5004 28 днів тому +4

    53:10 To To the question who's in charge. I believe who or what's in charge is non human.

    • @jasperalberts7647
      @jasperalberts7647 27 днів тому

      This sounds tin foil hat but if you consider what some otherwise well adjusted and brilliant commentators claim to be the “currency” of the power broking plutocrats (hint: children are involved), it’s not hard to consider the “necessity” of the head of the snake being non-human.

    • @sunnyadams5842
      @sunnyadams5842 24 дні тому

      Do you mean Evil, the Devil ? The spirit of...??

    • @coldwhitespring5004
      @coldwhitespring5004 23 дні тому

      @@sunnyadams5842 I believe aliens together with humans, and I belive this particular group is influenced by evil spirits, which I believe both aliens and humans can be. The agenda is just too long term and too smart to be human. And whoever is human of the ones in charge, will have access to the advanced alien technology to control us and steer us in certain directions.

  • @SchreckmolchInc
    @SchreckmolchInc 27 днів тому

    💎

  • @jonathanclayton9107
    @jonathanclayton9107 11 днів тому +2

    I new it was the coverts they are sly and cunning.

  • @emilysnyder4857
    @emilysnyder4857 День тому

    Have you heard of the Wetiko Mind Virus? I'm wondering if it's the same thing. The Native Americans say humans have been here before. I'm up to my ears with egos around me. I thought love was the cure. ✝️ 😅 What made me a narcissist magnet?

  • @4Beats4Me
    @4Beats4Me 27 днів тому

    Do you mean, the winners write the script?

    • @sunnyadams5842
      @sunnyadams5842 24 дні тому

      If you think of them as 'Winners' you have lost the plot. That's the point.

  • @g.m.5590
    @g.m.5590 26 днів тому

    31:51

  • @sibyllehartmann3417
    @sibyllehartmann3417 28 днів тому +2

    Totally disagree. I am an optimist at heart. We came this far with technology and even and optimistically with AI, I believe there is a plan for humanity. Just read some Ray Kurzweil and Michio Kaku, and our future is bright.

    • @sav421
      @sav421 28 днів тому +1

      I agree with you.

    • @chiyerano
      @chiyerano 24 дні тому

      I am a realist or strive to be a realist. While we have come pretty far with technology, we have also failed and are still behind in some respects and have caused much harm and still have a lot to learn and understand about ourselves and others and the world, the universe even.

    • @totonow6955
      @totonow6955 19 днів тому

      Gaza

  • @b-art6098
    @b-art6098 28 днів тому +2

    Lol, I was also glassed with a bottle in 2002. I always told girls I dated a different story how I got them.
    Once I said that my father was a drinker and a fiend. And one night he goes off crazier than usual and said “Let’s put a smile on that face!”.

  • @angmori172
    @angmori172 28 днів тому +4

    This matches my own experience. The only people I have actually known personally, who went into politics, were the most naive, do-gooder virtue-signallers I've ever met.
    They were women or very feminine men, without exception.
    Meanwhile I just want to live my life in peace, but since that no longer seems to be an option, I figure I have to get power in order to counteract these idiots.
    But I also figured out that I should go into tech in order to get some actual power to do good.

  • @karenknight7476
    @karenknight7476 27 днів тому +2

    Cyclical

  • @user-xf8rf4uc1u
    @user-xf8rf4uc1u 24 дні тому

    1:03:01 $🙏🏼🕊️🤍

  • @antiochiaadtaurum3786
    @antiochiaadtaurum3786 4 дні тому

    A very immediate and relevant example of such a narcissistic psychopath is jordan peterson