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  • @jking4973
    @jking4973 Рік тому +11425

    “I’M THE ELDEST BOY” the conheads are not gonna love this

    • @tokyojake1223
      @tokyojake1223 Рік тому +307

      he needs to be taken into account

    • @sineadoconormcG
      @sineadoconormcG Рік тому +570

      Conhead here - in regards to our position on this issue: if it is to be said, so it be, so it is

    • @hellfish2309
      @hellfish2309 Рік тому +161

      @@sineadoconormcG that goes unsaid

    • @jec3169
      @jec3169 Рік тому +138

      I wonder if that was what triggered Roman to bring up Kendall's "kids."

    • @xtxpxhx
      @xtxpxhx Рік тому +14

      @@jec3169 it was apparently always there, that's why taking over the company was so important to ken ..

  • @JustMeetLK
    @JustMeetLK 6 місяців тому +2056

    Connor had it figured out. The only way to "win" this game is to not even play it. Look at how miserable the rest of siblings are.

    • @brahsumatra
      @brahsumatra 5 місяців тому +123

      Exactly, Connor was the ultimate winner.

    • @deathbastardable
      @deathbastardable 4 місяці тому +73

      I dunno, it was kinda sad how Con came to the conclusion that he didn't need love after years of being in a one-sided relationship that was only happening because of his (dad's) money.

    • @Suzanne4415
      @Suzanne4415 4 місяці тому +105

      ​@@deathbastardable Yeah, "he basically purchased a person and is trying to keep her in a castle" as Kieran Culkin said in some interview, not really winning at life. But he's probably best off of the bunch.

    • @JustMeetLK
      @JustMeetLK 4 місяці тому +19

      @@deathbastardable Yeah that's true, he had to create a delusion to keep him sane. But I guess out of the bunch, he came out "ahead".

    • @cassnate6259
      @cassnate6259 4 місяці тому +14

      This is what I kept asking from early on... Why do they even want this? Go take your millions and do whatever you want with your life. Start your own company... so many people don't have nearly the means to do something like that. (Hell of a show, though.)

  • @Cotygeek
    @Cotygeek Рік тому +4214

    I'm amazed at how many people seem to miss that none of Logan's children are "worse" than the other. They are all shades of the man's worst characteristics. The tragedy isn't that none of them become CEO. The tragedy is in the swimming and the kitchen, where we see that they could have truly been a family that loved and supported one another except for one problem: They're Logan Roy's kids.

    • @billyobfas6962
      @billyobfas6962 Рік тому +128

      I’d argue Shiv is the worst since she’s the only one that clearly doesn’t love them. Look at the faces she’s making here

    • @dimitrithomas4019
      @dimitrithomas4019 Рік тому +433

      @@billyobfas6962 u get an a+ in totally missing the point

    • @amberlisa7365
      @amberlisa7365 Рік тому +232

      @@billyobfas6962 Shiv is REALLY spiteful and unlikable with the faces...it's like she is stabbing Kendall with a knife and twisting it so he will really bleed out, but Cotygeek is right, they are all terrible in different ways. The things Rome says to people...the way he treated that kid season 1? Who abuses and publicly humiliates kids for kicks? Romulus. His father called him a sicko...he is...and his dad made him that way.

    • @jhxcczs
      @jhxcczs Рік тому +86

      Exactly! Imagine the writers, writing this amazing piece of work so we can all reflect on greed, trauma, capitalism, etc so people end up not getting the point of the show and being Logan’s fans 😅

    • @billyobfas6962
      @billyobfas6962 Рік тому +2

      @@dimitrithomas4019 what is the point, mr einstein? Lol try me. I know more about this show than you

  • @andrewthoughts45
    @andrewthoughts45 Рік тому +1176

    I just realised that Shiv says 'you can't be CEO because you killed someone', which is a direct contradiction of Logan's assertion that 'you have to be a killer'. No matter what Kendall does - he can never win

    • @kathrynorozco5416
      @kathrynorozco5416 Рік тому +42

      He accidentally killed someone and has felt guilty about it for four seasons. He made a mistake because of his drug addiction it he tried saving the boy multiple times. He cares about other people but he know that he should have things too and think about himself. His father told him for years that it was his birthright to have the company

    • @theeternalnow6506
      @theeternalnow6506 4 місяці тому +88

      Also, Shiv is a scorpion. She will always betray and backstab. That's what scorpions do. It's her nature.
      They didn't introduce the scorpion gift for no reason.

    • @paulhanck1123
      @paulhanck1123 3 місяці тому +6

      You have to be ruthless but not literally kill someone because that's bad for business

    • @lasha3688
      @lasha3688 2 місяці тому +15

      The word "killer" is obviosly not used in the same way in these two instances. Like come on people

    • @mikeallen8557
      @mikeallen8557 2 місяці тому

      Exactly! Never mind it's false logan roy saying to him on the boat "your not a killer" because off fact that kendal went after not only a KILLER but his very own father. Takes brass balls but fact he went after killer makes him infact a killer.

  • @blippieredd3396
    @blippieredd3396 Рік тому +5769

    Kendall is one of the most depressing characters in television history.

    • @Eziopct
      @Eziopct Рік тому +240

      Wasn’t Kendall right from the start of the show? Buy tech (vaulter) and invest your content in it. The tech (Mattsson) bought them instead whilst losing ATN. Both vaulter and Mattsson had bad numbers/fake number which could be worked through.
      It seems to me that they had the answer for all their business growth problem from the start.
      (I copy and pasted this, just curious if somebody has a take on this)

    • @veslets
      @veslets Рік тому +437

      It’s funny considering by the end of the series he’s one of the richest people on the planet, just goes to show no amount of money can buy happiness

    • @wrestlinginfodude2644
      @wrestlinginfodude2644 Рік тому +10

      And tragic

    • @inigobantok1579
      @inigobantok1579 Рік тому +107

      ​@@Eziopct he was on the right track until that incident with the waiter

    • @charliepanayiotou4305
      @charliepanayiotou4305 Рік тому +5

      Only Jonathan in Buffy might rival him

  • @lucaspsm125
    @lucaspsm125 Рік тому +2581

    man, that smile after Shiv says "I just don't think you'd be good at it"... Logan raised his kids to do only one thing and that thing is compete and be terrible towards each other

    • @alexlazzerly3677
      @alexlazzerly3677 Рік тому +189

      Her face reminded me a lot of Brian Cox at that moment for some reason.

    • @cv8499
      @cv8499 Рік тому +214

      Just the fact that he promised the company leadership role to all three of them at different points in their lives--he wanted them to be at one another's throats. If he had just been clear in his will that he wanted it to go from eldest to youngest, or that he wanted all three to run it together and vote on things when they disagreed, or that he wanted the company sold immediately and for each of them to profit equally, it would have saved them all some grief. But nooo...

    • @danellae.perezschmieloz5958
      @danellae.perezschmieloz5958 Рік тому +115

      it was disgusting

    • @diegoalvarez64
      @diegoalvarez64 Рік тому +71

      Yeah exactly, like she would be better? She was struggling to come out with any excuse

    • @jcarter5521
      @jcarter5521 Рік тому +54

      This is why the only time Logan respected Kendall was when he grew a pair and stood on the lawsuit. None of them deserved it, they were are silver spoon fed fractions of what Logan raised. Logan said Tom was beneath Shiv, ironically he respected tom 10 times more than any of his kids because of his dedication and work ethic along with his willingness to lay on the sword for the company.

  • @ComplexHormones
    @ComplexHormones Рік тому +3485

    “I love you but I cannot stomach you” is the most soul wrenching line ever

    • @nijohn12
      @nijohn12 Рік тому +141

      Like imagine your sibling said that to you like omfg 😭 she's being honest but my god

    • @syscopio3452
      @syscopio3452 Рік тому +358

      Who is shiv kidding here ... the only person she has ever loved is herself

    • @derlich09
      @derlich09 Рік тому +1

      Red-headed torrent of spewing horseshit.😡

    • @18skeltor
      @18skeltor Рік тому +18

      @@syscopio3452 The show already tells us this. Find a new line 😂
      And besides, what Tom meant by that was that she was incapable of showing care (not at all her fault, at least... not entirely), not that she didn't love at all. She "loves" it all, that's why her name means God's Grace- her pride destroyed her, in the end.
      As a besides, it's stupid to mock and blame characters that aren't real- what does this do that is GOOD? Nothing.

    • @syscopio3452
      @syscopio3452 Рік тому +64

      @@18skeltor thanks for the rant 😆

  • @sarahahahahaha
    @sarahahahahaha 9 місяців тому +1138

    i LOVE that they kept the waiter storyline from the start to the literal end, i hate when something big happens in a show and then it’s forgotten abt next season

    • @abelvegajr.7001
      @abelvegajr.7001 8 місяців тому +80

      Succession has great writers. This is what made it such a great show.

    • @kaleithajohnson8378
      @kaleithajohnson8378 5 місяців тому +38

      Let’s not forget the foreshadowing at the baseball game. It started with a payoff. Paying people to forget how HORRIBLE they truly are

    • @ledot2037
      @ledot2037 5 місяців тому +10

      They totally forgot about the rocket in Japan 😂

    • @TheGoonSquadd
      @TheGoonSquadd 4 місяці тому +6

      @@ledot2037that’s how the world works though.. so an employee lost a finger or two (maybe a hand?) you pay the guy and that’s it. It’s not a company ending or news worthy thing. Has Roman been in the control room perhaps a bigger issue. But he was at a wedding. The media can’t paint him as a huge bad guy for the situation.

    • @TheGoonSquadd
      @TheGoonSquadd 4 місяці тому +3

      @@ledot2037 I wasn’t trying to be rude. Or a smart ass. Just making a conversation about it. Thought you were being serious about wanting them to bring it up again. That’s why I wrote the comment about why they prob didn’t bring it up again. No need for hostility. My apologies if you mistook my comment for being aggressive.

  • @MRAnonymous120
    @MRAnonymous120 Рік тому +4050

    Kendall losing it with his hands just GRIPPING onto Roman’s face like that is one of the most realistic portrayals of rage i’ve seen on television. He has purely lost it right there, no thoughts, just rage

    • @syscopio3452
      @syscopio3452 Рік тому +138

      Jeremy Strong ... take a bow

    • @MisterRawgers
      @MisterRawgers Рік тому +330

      His siblings destroyed his only dream right as he was about to finally realize it. His entire world was shattered in that moment, and I can’t really blame him with the things they were saying. Such a tragic character

    • @netoobioha6317
      @netoobioha6317 Рік тому +107

      I thought he was going to kill him in frustration of shiv.

    • @netoobioha6317
      @netoobioha6317 Рік тому +145

      @Jasmine Marie Murray nah tbh I’m on Kendall’s side, shiv played this card at the last moment and no one was going to convince her otherwise, then Roman does the 2 v 1 stating his kids are randos. Even if he just said it, in the heat of me losing my dream, my sister making ridiculous statements at the hour of the vote, then he mentions my kids aren’t even mine? Nah I’d lose it and most humans would too irrespective to if it makes sense to or not. Even Logan I believe would be massively frustrated.

    • @wiiplaya25
      @wiiplaya25 Рік тому +5

      THIS

  • @scottwhitehead4467
    @scottwhitehead4467 Рік тому +7137

    When Kendall says, "That didn't happen," the bottom drops out of everything. His relationship with his siblings, his last shred of dignity, and any chance of him stepping into his father's shoes. Incredible moment.

    • @sablestew
      @sablestew Рік тому +1113

      That was one of the things that he truly opened up to his siblings about. To see him take it all back just ruined their deeper connection and left them all disconnected in the end

    • @llamapartyy
      @llamapartyy Рік тому +188

      It’s so tragic

    • @diegoalvarez64
      @diegoalvarez64 Рік тому +23

      Why was that so important?

    • @ghosty8745
      @ghosty8745 Рік тому +845

      ​@@diegoalvarez64 Kendall opening up about killing the kid led to them uniting together against Logan, so saying it was a move to manipulate them ruined everything they did together

    • @AdeodatusX
      @AdeodatusX Рік тому +242

      Really I feel like that's the point, he sorta turned into his dad

  • @joannevega3159
    @joannevega3159 Рік тому +4639

    What's really interesting about Roman in this scene is at 4:16, when Kendall is attacking him, he doesn't make any attempt to defend himself. Roman keeps his arms at his side while Kendall is tearing at his face, but as soon as Kendall shoves Shiv, Roman springs into action to protect her. This is learned helplessness, where an abused child doesn't defend himself because he feels powerless against his abuser (first his father, now his older brother), but finds strength to protect someone else that they perceive is more vulnerable. Very subtle and well done, in keeping with what we know about this toxic family.

    • @SillyFrenchKing
      @SillyFrenchKing Рік тому +377

      It really reminds of the scene in season 2 episode 6 when Logan hits Roman, Kendall immediatly jumps in Romans defence. This time however he is the one attacking one of his siblings, and Roman the one defending her.

    • @XanderXel91
      @XanderXel91 Рік тому +262

      They are all such broken people. It’s truly a modern tragedy.

    • @norrinzelkarr8572
      @norrinzelkarr8572 Рік тому +146

      This and, due to all this abuse, he's a masochist who feels comfortable with people hurting him

    • @truestorytyp
      @truestorytyp Рік тому

      Kendall didn't f*cking "abuse" Roman just because they physically fought lmao, both Roman and Shiv were being selfish cunts who destroyed something that could have been decent. They're all self-destructive and selfish, but Kendall was genuinely attempting to solve the situation whereas Shiv and Roman got too caught up in their own feelings of inferiority
      I may be overanalyzing it, but you definitely are

    • @sarahbgln
      @sarahbgln Рік тому +182

      Roman not only protected Shiv, he also protected her baby. I'm so glad he yelled out to Kendall she is pregnant

  • @106andie
    @106andie 11 місяців тому +237

    Kendall trying to take back that confession was so cringe inducing, he just kept digging himself down further and further..

    • @margarethmichelina5146
      @margarethmichelina5146 13 днів тому +1

      The fact Shiv tried to expose him for killed someone but Kendall claimed he made it up is just the worst. What's more embarrasing is, he's going back to Board Meeting room and want to adjourn the meeting and pretend nothing happened! Even though the people saw how he's yelling at his siblings, squisshing Roman's skull and even trying to attack Shiv who's pregnant. Kendall mostly can't read his environment because he is blinded by his ego and arrogance.

    • @saturdaysequalsyouth
      @saturdaysequalsyouth 2 дні тому

      Ken never should have admitted it to anyone else. That was weak from him. Shiv didn't even care about it until she saw an opportunity to use it against him.
      Also, Shiv leaned on that woman who was going to testify against her family's company. She couldn't care less about that woman and what she witnessed or survived. This whole family is gross. But that's what you find at the top. So what does that say about all of us? What do we really value in this world?

    • @vaxan5126
      @vaxan5126 День тому

      The things you have to do when you have a salty sister lol

  • @filmbrat1
    @filmbrat1 Рік тому +3990

    shiv releases kendall from the cycle while also condemning him to a life of no purpose, meanwhile she’s trapped with tom. she is not a hero, and it’s not a happy ending for her, or anyone. very poetic and astounding writing. everyone got what they deserved

    • @brielleandquinn3281
      @brielleandquinn3281 Рік тому +433

      And Roman is finally free on his family shadows as you can see his smile in the bar scene.

    • @lxuaes6915
      @lxuaes6915 Рік тому +622

      I think it was more of, "If I can't have it, you can't have it either" type energy.

    • @xahirapax
      @xahirapax Рік тому +23

      ​@@lxuaes6915 son ambas cosas 😅

    • @filmbrat1
      @filmbrat1 Рік тому +112

      @@lxuaes6915 regardless of motive, she still freed him

    • @tokyojake1223
      @tokyojake1223 Рік тому +80

      Greg didn’t deserve to be safe imo

  • @zackkorth2410
    @zackkorth2410 Рік тому +1460

    "half rava, half some filing cabinet guy" absolutely brutal

    • @joaovictorteixeira3294
      @joaovictorteixeira3294 Рік тому +33

      the other kid is adopted? i didnt get it

    • @sondushabib9677
      @sondushabib9677 Рік тому +27

      Are Kendall’s kids adopted?

    • @cv8499
      @cv8499 Рік тому +200

      @@joaovictorteixeira3294 I assumed he was saying that Rava cheated on him.

    • @glamorsnoopy
      @glamorsnoopy Рік тому +486

      I've seen some people saying "filing cabinet guy" means a sperm donor

    • @ethanoicacid
      @ethanoicacid Рік тому +250

      @@sondushabib9677 Assuming Sophie is adopted. As for Iverson, it wasn't clear before if he was also adopted but based on Roman's words, sounds like IVF with a donor.

  • @SALT--
    @SALT-- Рік тому +847

    Kendall screaming "I'M THE ELDEST BOY", the entitlement spitting from his mouth. What a great scene. Im gonna miss this show.

    • @cainandabel7059
      @cainandabel7059 Рік тому +7

      for me it was just bad writing, to make Shiv look less bad. Kendall would have never said that but the writers needed him to say that i guess.

    • @SALT--
      @SALT-- Рік тому +120

      @@cainandabel7059 it was perfectly in character... He already said something similar in an earlier episode. The one after he nearly drowned in the pool, when he was getting an intervention from the 3 of them. It is exactly what Kendall thinks of himself.

    • @ureallysuckglobes
      @ureallysuckglobes Рік тому +3

      @@cainandabel7059 He literally said it back in season 3 lmao

    • @oliveiradalbon
      @oliveiradalbon Рік тому +5

      Jeremy is outstanding 👏👏👏

    • @kathrynorozco5416
      @kathrynorozco5416 11 місяців тому +3

      He is the eldest out of the three of them who are full siblings while Connor is their half sibling. He was always supposed to take over. Logan told him several times it would be his

  • @SimoneBrown
    @SimoneBrown 11 місяців тому +364

    "I false-memoried it" sent me to glory 😂😂😂

  • @weston407
    @weston407 Рік тому +3468

    I loved Connor's ending - it was the most perfect ending he could have possibly had, doing the most mundane BS ever but with the most overcomplicated system he could have come up with

    • @jonathanthomas9677
      @jonathanthomas9677 Рік тому +175

      And at least he has someone to do it with who truly loves him😊

    • @Gogettor
      @Gogettor Рік тому +138

      But it saved Greg. That sticker.

    • @Davon85J
      @Davon85J Рік тому +362

      @@jonathanthomas9677 does Willa truly love him though? Willa seemed VERY keen on having a long distance relationship away from Connnor and looked disappointed when Shiv told her that Mencken might not win the election. So the plans of Connor moving away to Slovenia or wherever would not come to fruition.

    • @DrunkGuitarist
      @DrunkGuitarist Рік тому +268

      @@jonathanthomas9677 She definitely doesnt love him, connor knows that. He said he doesn't need love.

    • @coachholden
      @coachholden Рік тому +8

      100% that was a standout for me 😂

  • @megatron4466
    @megatron4466 Рік тому +823

    roman's tiny "you have no kids" comment while kendall was literally squishing his head was funny lmao

    • @Spaced92
      @Spaced92 Рік тому +105

      Kendall = the eldest, has kids, has to be CEO, definitely never killed a man.

    • @kdizzle901
      @kdizzle901 Рік тому +104

      It was a low blow right after Shivs low blow about something he told them in confidence he should never have told her

    • @tintincruz8660
      @tintincruz8660 Рік тому

      He wanted that blow so much, dude was literally asking for it. God he's so pitiable.

    • @jens2049
      @jens2049 Рік тому +3

      Funny???

    • @arturofernandez4874
      @arturofernandez4874 Рік тому +16

      @@jens2049 i mean yea, this series is hilarious in a very dark way

  • @isaiahtaylor5200
    @isaiahtaylor5200 3 місяці тому +144

    4:21 Roman sneaking in the “you have no kids” line is insane 😂

    • @ImTash.O
      @ImTash.O 3 місяці тому +11

      Not a lot of people caught that

  • @browningstubbs3536
    @browningstubbs3536 Рік тому +196

    No joke, “I’m the Eldest Boy” is arguably the most iconic one-liner in the history of the show.

  • @nanana1643
    @nanana1643 Рік тому +2529

    heartbreaking. but i don’t think it could’ve ended any other way

    • @JoaoVictor-yq8ym
      @JoaoVictor-yq8ym Рік тому +74

      Yeah, completely summarizes what this show is about

    • @esser976
      @esser976 Рік тому +62

      I think it could actually end in AAANYY other way, lol. This ending episode was just to shock us and make us mad

    • @ianblum22
      @ianblum22 Рік тому +94

      @@esser976What else would’ve made sense for the show?

    • @moneykenny119
      @moneykenny119 Рік тому +111

      @@esser976 How is it that much of a shock? The entire season has been about Gojo buying Waystar and guess how it ends? Gojo buys waystar

    • @tacituskilgore875
      @tacituskilgore875 Рік тому +41

      ​@@esser976 It was actually very predictable if you have been paying attention.

  • @guymensah
    @guymensah Рік тому +915

    “I’M THE ELDEST BOY” wow. That scene showed a lot of emotion, not only did it show Kendall’s narcissistic personality and disregard for the actual eldest brother Connor; it also showed his desperation to finally become CEO.

    • @15Candles
      @15Candles Рік тому +144

      When i heard that, I was legit shocked. He completely lost it, he could've said anything to convince that he's the right person for the job but went to a fatal direction because of his greed and stupid ego by discrediting the real actual eldest son who has been interested in politics from a very young age

    • @cv8499
      @cv8499 Рік тому +70

      @@15Candles Plus, it just sounded so immature. Them acting like children when they're just fooling around in the kitchen is one thing. But Kendall truly being a petulant, entitled child inside while trying to run the company doesn't work.

    • @ChuyR.
      @ChuyR. Рік тому +54

      He shouldn't have gone to chase Shiv's vote, he should have stayed in the room wait for Shiv to make her own decision, it is most likely that Ken staying in the room would have shown some dignity and self respect and that could have steered Shiv in that last moment to vote NO. But no the 2 brothers had to go down to chase her un push her, of course she was gonna vote against what the brothers (especially Ken) wanted.

    • @harish5612
      @harish5612 Рік тому +6

      So agree with ken being in the room man, I thought the same that she would have voted for him if he stayed back

    • @faustsiftar7683
      @faustsiftar7683 Рік тому +10

      @Jesus Yeah I totally agree. When I was watching it, I was focusing more on how Ken was acting than what he was saying. It was easy to see how he made the wrong play by chasing Shiv, but I understand at the same time; to be this close to finally getting what he wanted just to have it taken away all of a sudden- story of his life

  • @The0neWomanShow
    @The0neWomanShow Рік тому +936

    I cannot stop rewatching this scene. The execution from the camerawork, writing, sound, editing and acting is flawless. Four seasons building to this moment, it’s like a great sense of catharsis I get

    • @billyobfas6962
      @billyobfas6962 Рік тому +31

      In the end, it’s always been the sibs bringing each other down. Mattson didn’t need to do jack lol

    • @The0neWomanShow
      @The0neWomanShow Рік тому +11

      @@billyobfas6962 exactly, and I suppose that is what it’s always been about. In the beginning, Kendall was the heir apparent but the second Roman and Shiv (at some point) get the chance at it too and with Logan’s approval thinking they stand a chance, it revolves into children fighting over who gets to play with the toy

    • @MikeLysin
      @MikeLysin 9 місяців тому

      ​@@billyobfas6962and our boy Wamsgans comes in with his agricultural walk to sweep it all away from them. The Disgusting Brothers supremacy

    • @victorvelasco1693
      @victorvelasco1693 3 місяці тому

      ​@@billyobfas6962 This finale is nothing about the siblings bringing each other down.
      It's literally about how they are useless and them acting important and "running stuff" is just smoke and mirrors

    • @billyobfas6962
      @billyobfas6962 2 місяці тому +1

      @@victorvelasco1693 bruh you haven’t been watching the show properly

  • @missdee4927
    @missdee4927 Рік тому +1036

    The way she laughs and said "You're not!" to him yelling he's the eldest boy. That was so true to a real life argument. Sarah Snook needs an Emmy (so does Kieran).

    • @derekschmitt9994
      @derekschmitt9994 Рік тому +73

      Also so funny how every other time Connor is forgotten, this time it’s immediately called out

    • @wrestlinginfodude2644
      @wrestlinginfodude2644 11 місяців тому +9

      Snook needs emmy but Jeremy should get his 2nd emmy instead of keiren ,for his his portrayal as one of the greatest television characters of all time

    • @missdee4927
      @missdee4927 11 місяців тому +2

      @@wrestlinginfodude2644 Kieran should get supporting actor.Jeremy can compete in lead actor.

    • @kathrynorozco5416
      @kathrynorozco5416 11 місяців тому +5

      He is the eldest boy out of the three of them though. Connor is only their half brother

    • @MarxistMedia
      @MarxistMedia 10 місяців тому +24

      @@kathrynorozco5416 Yes but he's Logan's eldest son so any kind of primogeniture argument goes out the window.

  • @notsuredc
    @notsuredc Рік тому +754

    “pair of randos” was crazy i’m surprised ken didn’t smash roman’s head thru the glass window

    • @pennystocklocks
      @pennystocklocks Рік тому +32

      I remind me of the Mountain and Red Viper

    • @printezstroman
      @printezstroman Рік тому +125

      He had it coming for that.

    • @lucaspsm125
      @lucaspsm125 Рік тому +199

      he was asking to be slapped. And it feels true to Roman because this pattern of punishment was something that Logan always did to him, and Kendall basically IS Logan in this scene

    • @laimejannister5627
      @laimejannister5627 Рік тому +22

      Knowing Roman I’d say that might actually turn him on

    • @ac-ye6sf
      @ac-ye6sf Рік тому +71

      @@lucaspsm125 kendall always being the one to defend his brother or children from his dad but attacking roman (not that he didn’t deserve it) and violently grabbing his pregnant sister to stop her from taking the thing he wants is PERFECT. really it all boils down to his desire to feel powerful and with the vacuum logan left, you see him go from being the one to defend his family from logan’s violence to actually hurting roman (more than just the brotherly bitch fights they’ve had before 🥴) and trying to hurt shiv. which definitely threw me off guard but makes a lot of sense. the one thing he had going for him in terms of actually protecting or taking for of his siblings/kids was his defensiveness against logan’s occasional physical violence. and seeing him simultaneously throw a fit that cost him shivs vote (which could’ve easily been swayed) while stooping to hurting roman more than we ever saw logan do and trying to hurt his pregnant sister is a perfect ending for his chracter. he like logan in all the wrong ways. just as privileged and selfish without any of the skill logan had in maintaining power in business or family. he’s exactly like logan in none of the ways that he wants to be but ultimately proves him right. kendall wasn’t good enough to be ceo. too emotional and failed at negotiating back his life-long dream.

  • @heiserxx
    @heiserxx Рік тому +368

    I just noticed that even after being hit by Ken, Roman said a last "you have no kids" just to wrap up🤣

    • @rainywoex5035
      @rainywoex5035 Рік тому

      He also said "she's pregnant you piece of sh*t"

    • @ororomunroe4055
      @ororomunroe4055 Рік тому +26

      Lol but he has no kids either 💀 he can't even have sex, I'm surprised Kendall didn't roast him with that.

    • @IvaN-cf7qt
      @IvaN-cf7qt Рік тому +46

      ​@@ororomunroe4055Kendall was no longer on the mood of exchanging insults after what Roman said about his children, he was ready to punch him. Beside he already called him a cock, showing how low he thinks about Roman.

    • @MyaB1986
      @MyaB1986 Рік тому +6

      I guess what Roman said about Kendall's kids kind of wraps up people asking all over the internet how come Sophie is his daughter.

    • @magfe888
      @magfe888 Рік тому

      @@IvaN-cf7qt lmfao he called him a cuck, not a cock

  • @sarahbgln
    @sarahbgln Рік тому +472

    "AbsoLUTEly not, man. Absolutely not." One of the most honest sounding moments from Roman with this line and how he delivered it

    • @arizansbergerstein1860
      @arizansbergerstein1860 9 місяців тому +15

      I've actually always wondered what that meant. Did he flip on Kendall after hearing his bullshit about the kid he killed?

    • @olivreheck
      @olivreheck 9 місяців тому +52

      i think it was just too much at that point, to roman either kendal killed the killed and is lying about it now or he lied about killing a kid back then which is an almost even more psychotic thing to do

    • @feyrol42
      @feyrol42 6 місяців тому +22

      @@arizansbergerstein1860 Yes, because he knew Kendall lied and the fact that he was willing to take that back just to secure his seat as CEO put Roman off

    • @annkey4091
      @annkey4091 4 місяці тому

      I think Roman was put-off before Kendall's denial of the auto accident. His behavior during the board meeting was telltale sign to me. Also, I thought that he and Shiv's anointing of Kendall as CEO was grudgingly given by the both of them. I thought that either one of then could have flipped, but Shiv had more at stake.@@feyrol42

    • @annkey4091
      @annkey4091 3 місяці тому +3

      @@feyrol42I actually think that Roman had misgivings during the board vote. His hesitation allowed Shiv to leave the room without casting her vote. Kendall's "false memory" of his auto accident allowed Roman to completely change his mind about giving Kendall the CEO position, but at this point in the story, he had already voted NO to the deal.
      There were two people to the right of Shiv or the left of Frank that had not cast their votes when Shiv left the board room. She may have had general idea how those two people had planned to vote.

  • @benwagner4741
    @benwagner4741 10 місяців тому +468

    I love the shots from outside of the room that get interspersed throughout the scene. Really puts into perspective how much of a spectacle Kendall is making the whole situation out to be.

    • @Winter-Alpha-Omega
      @Winter-Alpha-Omega 10 місяців тому +16

      I was screaming when I watched that.
      If I were the people watching in, I'd be like "Sh¡t's about to go down".

    • @jivet3919
      @jivet3919 8 місяців тому +21

      He lost it. But all the siblings operated with no reason. Pure greed and jealousy

    • @SergeKulyk
      @SergeKulyk 5 місяців тому +5

      They're in the playground Logan created for them and the world is watching.

    • @Winter-Alpha-Omega
      @Winter-Alpha-Omega 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@jivet3919Siobhan couldn't stand to let him win, since she felt sidelined in favour of him her entire life.
      Roman seemed hurt when Kendall pretended the thing he told them about the waiter's death was fake. And he had already shown doubt earlier the same episode, which is when Kendall opens up his stitches.

    • @CJStew06
      @CJStew06 Місяць тому

      ​@@jivet3919 idk about that-even Logan said in Italy, "if I don't take a good deal, what's the point of doing anything?" If anything, voting against the deal just to keep your vanity status as an executive, and screwing over shareholders, would be more greedy and self-interested.

  • @asdf852asdf
    @asdf852asdf Рік тому +1821

    I think is hilarious that Roman also realized Kendall lost it and sided with Shiv in the end.
    His final words of them being bullshit were so true, Roman was never a serious person and he knew that but he also only wanted to be on top because of his father, him coming to terms that he can live free and without the pretense of it while also realizing putting Kendall on top would just make him go through "Logan Roy" again probably made everything more clear for him, he left the series drinking a martini and what it seemed like a shitton of emotions in one second, but mainly one of relief
    Kendall on the other hand is probably the worse case in the end, him being prepared since he was 7 to take the company and basically making it all of his life and failing is the biggest tragedy in the show, he wasnt bargaining and begging for power and money, he was ultimately begging for finally having a reason to exist, it actually changes the whole show and it made so much sense why he could never just do other stuff like Roman, Shiv and Connor did with theirs, even after every public stunt and drama he caused, he always only wanted one thing, to be the CEO
    Logan literally ruined his favorite and most beloved son by giving him a life mission that now he will never be able to achieve, he groomed Kendall into being a king and now theres no kingdom anymore, he was left with only the riches hes always had so in the end he truly was left with nothing to live for

    • @ac-ye6sf
      @ac-ye6sf Рік тому +54

      great analysis but to me that sounds like that best thing in the world. self-inflicted pain from someone too stupid to see they’re already winning 🥴. perfect ending

    • @lieke7675
      @lieke7675 Рік тому +102

      I think Roman had doubts from the start, just like Shiv, but in a parallel to season one he was too afraid to go against Kendall, just like how he was afraid to go against Logan. He only started talking back to Kendall when he realized Shiv was firmly on his side

    • @user-se3qm2se2t
      @user-se3qm2se2t Рік тому +47

      They both just prefer anybody else as CEO if they can't have it for themselves, scorched earth.

    • @ricardorivera7549
      @ricardorivera7549 Рік тому +36

      i hope kendall comes to terms w it in the future tho and realize he was becoming his own dad and this saved him. he was already hurting his siblings physically, and was already an absent fatehr having doubts himself if he is a good dad. Ken cant see it rn, but turning CEO would destroy him and if his words are true, that he does everything for his kids, then they should be his reason to live. now he has even more riches to ensure they have their entire life sorted out and have time to spend w them.

    • @1nakk1
      @1nakk1 Рік тому +2

      Excellent analysis

  • @saydnmotherboyangel2941
    @saydnmotherboyangel2941 Рік тому +341

    Kendall saying “which?” Is such a beautifully dark comedic line. You don’t feel like you can laugh given the context, but that’s just the essence of the show, isn’t it?🤣

  • @oliverlueiza4231
    @oliverlueiza4231 11 місяців тому +46

    "I love you but you are not serious people" This is the sentence that surrounds all this tragedy.

    • @shmoopdoop1409
      @shmoopdoop1409 10 місяців тому +2

      That sentence summarizes the whole show

    • @margarethmichelina5146
      @margarethmichelina5146 Місяць тому +2

      The worst part is, it was the last line from Logan to all of his children

  • @christianromeo9075
    @christianromeo9075 Рік тому +348

    It was so sad to see them fighting like this, verbally and physically, after the way they had been this episode. Them joking around during the midnight swim, mucking around and being such children in the kitchen, and comforting eachother when watching the videos of Logan. And then to this where there’s so much anger and jealousy and hatred. I was so happy seeing them work together for a common goal and then it all blew up 😢

    • @LivinhItUp
      @LivinhItUp Рік тому +20

      Two sides of having siblings, and they showed minutes from each other.
      It's playful, nostalgic, and cute when it's having a "meal fit for a king" ...
      ...But also many scars of being bullied or teased and physically abused for the sake of disdain or jealousy.

    • @Okayand33
      @Okayand33 6 місяців тому +5

      kids in the kitchen, kids in the boardroom

    • @sabrinakrohm6369
      @sabrinakrohm6369 4 місяці тому +4

      @@Okayand33 That's why I personally think it's a good thing they all finally got out of that boardroom tbh. Because that was basically the spirit of their dad / the core of the whole toxic dynamic between them. Logan continuously pitching them against each other so he could keep his crown,

    • @Ivsti831
      @Ivsti831 Місяць тому

      Very irritating
      Roman had already voted no
      Sic just went along and betrayed him
      And Roman
      Roman😒
      Never has a stand of his own, just like Connor except he acts like his a man of himself and he can make big decisions

  • @morganchampagne9362
    @morganchampagne9362 Рік тому +495

    I pity all of them. Their parents were two real pieces of work, and this was never going to end any other way. All of them will be supremely enriched by this sale, but none of them will be free. They’ve been hard wired to want more and more and more.

    • @mr_coffee9917
      @mr_coffee9917 Рік тому +10

      Exactly......I did not feel that Shiv and Kendall were bad at the work. Both did it fine. Unfortunately Logan fucked both of them sad

    • @dv9239
      @dv9239 Рік тому +1

      ​@@chrisnygonzo121809of course they don't want money
      They had more than enough since the beginning it's the power they were after

    • @ricardorivera7549
      @ricardorivera7549 Рік тому

      idk i saw rome pretty satisfied of being free finally. i feel he never really wanted it. just couldnt say it cuz of his pride and ego.

    • @lpr5269
      @lpr5269 Рік тому +2

      It's poetic justice that none of them ended up being CEO. It was so pathetic listening to them argue why each one of them should be CEO. Especially "Dad promised me when I was 7."

    • @jcarter5521
      @jcarter5521 Рік тому +3

      The entire show is full of sociapaths outside of Jerri, Kendall's assistant, and Logans security guard were the only egoless people from the entire show. This is why Kendall was so hurt when his assitance decided to leave house, because technically she was the only pure soul he had in his life, even still his sociapath ways tarnished both that relationship and the remaining of his kids and ex dynamic. Great writing

  • @JoaoVictor-yq8ym
    @JoaoVictor-yq8ym Рік тому +1330

    Fantastic scene. Kendall gone absolutely nuts, and shows how Logan was right: none of are serious people, and none of them deserve the top job

    • @mr_coffee9917
      @mr_coffee9917 Рік тому +61

      Logan was the worst person. Did he deserve ? I am sorry Kendall was deserving and so was Shiv. They did fine unfortunately their father never let them both get to the top. So sad. Main villain is Logan Roy

    • @asdf852asdf
      @asdf852asdf Рік тому +98

      ​@@mr_coffee9917 for better or for worse, it was Logan's by default, he made the company and knew how to play the game, Tom was pretty much right when he said he never seen Logan get fucked but he has seen Kendall screw up a thousand times, in the end Logan would had probably picked Tom anyway, he is family, hes gonna have a direct blood relative son and despite everything in the end Tom actually works and succeds at his job.

    • @yc6018
      @yc6018 Рік тому +24

      ​@@mr_coffee9917 doesnt matter if Logan deserved it or not he build the damn thing, if Ken had what it takes he could do the same but he doesnt

    • @ciloves
      @ciloves Рік тому +14

      Deserving isn’t about feelings. Shiv and Kendall didn’t get it because they didn’t play the game and business is business in their world. It’s tragic and I’m so sad for the characters but none of them deserved the role

    • @paulattaboyatreides6414
      @paulattaboyatreides6414 Рік тому +1

      @@mr_coffee9917 daddy issues much?

  • @MarvelAlex94
    @MarvelAlex94 Рік тому +486

    I love Sarah Snook’s small inflections on Shiv’s voice and her facial expressions. That small ‘wuhhhh’ at 2:20 is so good. Really small thing but it humanises her character, it’s a relatable thing and I’ve never seen other actors add stuff like that before.

    • @billyobfas6962
      @billyobfas6962 Рік тому +64

      The actress is very good at making Shiv unlikable. She’s making so many faces like a child and a diva

    • @shanew2150
      @shanew2150 Рік тому +21

      That “you’re not” was absolutely perfect

    • @amberlisa7365
      @amberlisa7365 Рік тому +4

      @@billyobfas6962 The faces!!! You have to watch just for the faces!!

    • @user-xb5bz4fu9o
      @user-xb5bz4fu9o Рік тому +24

      @@billyobfas6962 what is your damage man they're all awful

    • @billyobfas6962
      @billyobfas6962 Рік тому +2

      @@amberlisa7365 are you slow?

  • @MD-vp7od
    @MD-vp7od Рік тому +746

    The number one boy almost made it. Almost. Did shiv save him or kill him? We wouldn’t ever know. All we know is- he made his whole life about the top job. It was promised to him when he was 7. Except the company he has nothing. No kids, no wife, no dad, no friends, no partner, - just Colin.
    A perfect completion of the tragic arc of Kendall Roy. Jeremy Strong, you are such a fucking legend for playing him this well. A Lady Macbeth kinda person, with a serious but childish demeanour, comical and tragic at the same time.

    • @Eziopct
      @Eziopct Рік тому +32

      Wasn’t Kendall right from the start of the show? Buy tech (vaulter) and invest your content in it. The tech (Mattsson) bought them instead whilst losing ATN. Both vaulter and Mattsson had bad numbers/fake number which could be worked through.
      It seems to me that they had the answer for all their business growth problem from the start.
      (I copy and pasted this, just curious if somebody has a take on this)

    • @amberlisa7365
      @amberlisa7365 Рік тому +34

      @@Eziopct Kendall was great on ideas, horrible at execution. Got in his own way (the manslaughter) and his father was always sabotaging, gaslighting, psychologically abusing. He seems like such an underdog, because of all the abuse he took, but still kept trying. I think that's why so many people pull for him...BUT, he jus kept getting more and more abusive like his father...they both did, but didn't have their father's skillset so people like Shiv, Carl, Gerry, Frank punched back and told both of them they didn't have it.

    • @honeybhingful
      @honeybhingful Рік тому +27

      Shiv did the right call, for all the wrong reasons

    • @jerry85g7
      @jerry85g7 Рік тому

      Shiv killed him.

    • @18skeltor
      @18skeltor Рік тому +3

      @@amberlisa7365 Ken Doll should have died in the sense that the audience should no longer carry a torch for him- in the hug scene (you know)- but lots of weird people (I want to say guys, but unfortunately I think even some woman have expressed their appreciation for him) in the comment sections seem to think otherwise...

  • @charlotteccn
    @charlotteccn Рік тому +438

    The show started with Kendall getting so close to becoming CEO, only to have it taken away at the last moment, and here he is again. The story about Logan telling Kendall he would take over - when he was just 7 years old - was so heartbreaking.

    • @officialthomasjames
      @officialthomasjames Рік тому +15

      So basically we wasted 4 seasons of TV

    • @Mopark25
      @Mopark25 Рік тому +48

      ​@@officialthomasjames 4 seasons of one of the greatest shows ever made can not be called a waste

    • @BrandonJCruz-gq3lj
      @BrandonJCruz-gq3lj Рік тому +7

      @@officialthomasjames no because Tom won and Tom is the goat. Even tho ken lost he is free of the loop of losing and Tom wss the best character who could win after Kendall so it was pretty good

    • @billyobfas6962
      @billyobfas6962 Рік тому +16

      @@officialthomasjames do not watch succession for the story. It’s four seasons of the kids being auditioned for the top job and betraying each other and also failing to get the top job. You watch the show for the dialogue and acting

    • @SillyFrenchKing
      @SillyFrenchKing 11 місяців тому +7

      100% right, atleast Roman, connor and Shiv have other things to life. Because of what Logan promised Ken, Kendall now has nothing.

  • @willrichardson5931
    @willrichardson5931 10 місяців тому +191

    One of the greatest scenes in TV drama history. And can we give a round of applause to these three incredible actors? The pressure was on… but they smashed it….

    • @shmoopdoop1409
      @shmoopdoop1409 10 місяців тому +9

      The entire show encapsulated in 5 minutes. Just beautiful.

    • @polb.9201
      @polb.9201 14 днів тому +1

      In TV dark comedy history*

  • @Blitzbrie
    @Blitzbrie 11 місяців тому +63

    2:45 The coordinated "what...the fuck?" between Rome and Shiv is a thing of beauty

  • @JoelTrujillo
    @JoelTrujillo 10 місяців тому +42

    My favorite line is “I false memoried it.”

  • @Deletaste
    @Deletaste Рік тому +273

    They're definitely not serious people.

    • @travelingmaniac
      @travelingmaniac Рік тому +16

      Though about the same line a lot.. they definitely are not serious people. Everyone is bullshit was also true.

    • @waldo109
      @waldo109 Рік тому +19

      The shots from them outside the glass office, with everyone hearing them yell. It's incredibly cringe and frustrating, imagine being in what would be an insanely high-level assistant role having to witness all that go on and just wait for these clowns who are (for now) your bosses.

    • @waldo109
      @waldo109 Рік тому +2

      Fantastic finale by the way.

    • @williamcowell1889
      @williamcowell1889 Рік тому

      @@waldo109Not only that but also seeing them getting into a brotherly scuffle as well. Lol

    • @1KickassVideo
      @1KickassVideo Рік тому

      All I could think about when they started screaming at each other is Logan saying that to them. 🤨

  • @robo2000nitro
    @robo2000nitro Рік тому +961

    This is the perfect ending. Neither of the siblings deserved it. The whole cycle of toxicity of not being able to accept your own brother/sister to be successful instilled into them via their dad Logan has always been apparent. In the election episode Shiv pleaded with them not to call it yet they still did and now its come back to bite Kendall. Logan was right, they are not serious people.

    • @jcarter5521
      @jcarter5521 Рік тому +40

      Well said ! Logan toxic ass called them pedestrians lol!

    • @ericco86
      @ericco86 Рік тому +50

      Roman and Shiv saw that in the end. "We're nothing."

    • @kdizzle901
      @kdizzle901 Рік тому +14

      Tom didn’t deserve it either lol

    • @syscopio3452
      @syscopio3452 Рік тому +9

      @Erik Varga not shiv, she is still living in lala land

    • @ericco86
      @ericco86 Рік тому +12

      @@syscopio3452 But with completely different relationship with Tom, quite the opposite what they had in the beginning. Now he will be de boss.

  • @toddlandry5736
    @toddlandry5736 Рік тому +73

    What I really love about this scene are Shiv's facial expressions. They express even more about her disgust than her words. So good

  • @dollarsaurus01
    @dollarsaurus01 11 місяців тому +491

    Even in death, Logan always wins. It’s been a month and I still can’t stop thinking about this finale.
    One of the best series ever made

    • @shmoopdoop1409
      @shmoopdoop1409 10 місяців тому +1

      Lol another month and now I'm back here

    • @jbdroppingemz
      @jbdroppingemz 10 місяців тому +3

      That's what I'm saying even in death he still is ruling shit like TF best series I have watched in a very long time!!! Next too Resident Alien and Manifest

    • @15Candles
      @15Candles 6 місяців тому +4

      Even when Logan is dead, somehow I can still feel his presence. It felt like he's keeping an eye on the sibling to prove his point. His shadow is insanely big that you can still feel him even when he's dead

    • @marshallyt4421
      @marshallyt4421 3 місяці тому +1

      I completed it a week ago, I cant get over it. And I hate that I started this webseries. Like I am not able to sleep.
      I wanted Ken to become ceo.

    • @mwilby3027
      @mwilby3027 3 місяці тому

      not even close lmao

  • @TheFartingMonkeys
    @TheFartingMonkeys Рік тому +739

    To be honest, if Ken just owned up to killing the waiter, there’s a shot he could’ve convinced Shiv to change her mind. But as soon as he lied and basically turned into his dad, calling it NRPI, it was game over for him.

    • @Emy-fv5ny
      @Emy-fv5ny Рік тому +207

      I think she already decided what to do. He just gave her a justification.

    • @wayothefro3249
      @wayothefro3249 Рік тому +137

      @@Emy-fv5ny She was clearly still deciding what to do, Ken saying he lied about the waiter just cinched it and also turned Roman against him completely.

    • @mrprimeconsigliere
      @mrprimeconsigliere Рік тому +265

      She couldn’t care less about the waiter or if Kendall actually kill him or if it was pure accident. It was pure spite. She says it very clearly herself. She couldn’t stomach him winning over her.

    • @Emy-fv5ny
      @Emy-fv5ny Рік тому +43

      @@wayothefro3249 She was not, that's why she brought up the "You kill a person" phrase, clearly looking for something to back her decision.

    • @wayothefro3249
      @wayothefro3249 Рік тому +26

      @@Emy-fv5ny Not really. Ken killing a person is a huge mark against him as it shows how careless and reckless he can be. Not to mention also shows how much a problem his struggles with addiction can be.

  • @Andy-nv6ys
    @Andy-nv6ys Рік тому +632

    Although the ending is bittersweet for Kendall, I hope Shiv's decision indirectly saved him (being a Logan 2.0 was damning).

    • @laimejannister5627
      @laimejannister5627 Рік тому +1

      He be OD within a month.

    • @lucaspsm125
      @lucaspsm125 Рік тому +120

      but he did become Logan, in the sense that he destroyed every true relationship he once had, except Colin lmao

    • @ADifferentVibe
      @ADifferentVibe Рік тому +30

      she prevented Kendall from becoming Logan as long as Logan was. But let's see if he can live with that. (I think he will be fine with his billions from the deal).

    • @ashutoshsamantaray6596
      @ashutoshsamantaray6596 Рік тому +50

      bittersweet? kendall was just bitter. There wasn't anything in his eyes. Shiv wanted control. And that's what the finale led to. She wants to pretend to be a player. Always playing her pretend game of thrones.

    • @Andy-nv6ys
      @Andy-nv6ys Рік тому +7

      @@lucaspsm125 I don't think he's over their relationship (unless he kills himself or never forgives Shiv). It was more likely that he would end his relationship with his brothers, with Rava and his children if he had been crowned.

  • @dimas44444
    @dimas44444 Рік тому +46

    The three of them could actually run the company really well if they actually worked together. But Logan didn't raise them to "Work together"

  • @scarlet2690
    @scarlet2690 6 місяців тому +42

    4:21 'you have no kids'...omg roman😂

  • @bikramarora1819
    @bikramarora1819 Рік тому +604

    imagine being a board member seeing three adults brawling and one yelling I AM THE ELDEST BOY!
    Unserious. These kids never had it. Logan was right.

    • @Grsz11
      @Grsz11 Рік тому +69

      Great writing to go with boy instead of son.

    • @notgoodgamer5990
      @notgoodgamer5990 Рік тому +3

      Yup. I agree. They never had it.

    • @amberlisa7365
      @amberlisa7365 Рік тому +12

      @@Grsz11 I was like "he's calling himself a boy????"

    • @amysteriousviewer3772
      @amysteriousviewer3772 Рік тому +34

      They may have had it in them but Logan made sure they never did by raising and treating them the way he did.

    • @JamesCarter1998
      @JamesCarter1998 Рік тому +33

      It’s all Logan’s fault though; he raised them all to be that way…maybe he finally realised his big mistake just before he died 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @GreatSpaceToaster
    @GreatSpaceToaster Рік тому +643

    I think Shiv did what she did because while Tom's betrayal's is hurtful for her, is not nearly as much as Kendall becoming Logan's successor over her. These three were competing all their lives for this, to be seen as worthy of Logan's legacy, which is the only way he could ever respect them, and maybe show some love. Let's be real, do you really think she gives a shit about the dead waiter?
    These three love each other, but they were raised to compete against each other, and they can't stand to see each other win. As much as some of us might hate Shiv for doing this, I can't say I don't see Kendall doing the same if the roles were reversed. Roman's the only who's finally starting to break free.

    • @Sam19509
      @Sam19509 Рік тому +38

      Lol no he is not. He got drunk and was laughing alone at the bar because Shiv and Kendall like him are not CEO. He is celebrating that yes he didn’t win but they all lost.

    • @laum5371
      @laum5371 Рік тому +16

      ​@@Sam19509 break free.. not being a CEO, patata potato

    • @laum5371
      @laum5371 Рік тому +15

      She knew he couldn't be CEO, and when he ask her she threw the first random idea she had, had he sit down and spoke to them about that she would have had more confidence, or perhaps trow more reasons why he should not be CEO so he can defend himself con convince her, some people need to be convinced and reinforced ... it's actually the first thing you learn in customer service, if someone is upset let them vent, let them know you understand, give them assurance and when finishing the interaction reinforce or reiterate the reasons why it was positive aka what you did for them

    • @PrestigeLearning
      @PrestigeLearning Рік тому +44

      @@laum5371 Exactly. SHE doesn’t care about the waiter either, just throwing out the first thing that came to mind (that it was a valid concern is strictly coincidental with these people).

    • @ALLIDOISNGUYEN
      @ALLIDOISNGUYEN Рік тому +32

      Shiv admitted in this scene that she'd rather be her mom than the loser to her brother

  • @ChrisNemo
    @ChrisNemo 2 місяці тому +5

    “I don’t think you’d be good at it” you can just see the pettiness and their inner children coming out. Still little kids trying to get their daddy’s attention and get called favorite even though he passed. It’s a brilliant scene especially with Kendal’s desperation coming out

  • @mmlas8683
    @mmlas8683 Рік тому +44

    The writers build up Kendall, only to tear him down at his peak. Our #1 boy can’t catch a break.

  • @baaaldur
    @baaaldur Рік тому +41

    "If I don't get to do this, I feel like that's it, like I, I might die". Unbelievably grim.

  • @christianzafiroglu6705
    @christianzafiroglu6705 Рік тому +91

    I saw the moment Shiv knew she couldn’t vote for Kendall.
    It was when Kendall put his feet up on the desk and bro-insulted Stewie. It was everything she hates. The privilege, his smugness, his overbearing insecurity. She knew right then she would have to vote against him.
    And Roman really only gave him half-approval. His “Nnnoope” was nearly childish, forced out. And his final assessment of Kendall and all of them, while pithy, was also spot on. They really are “bs.” What do they make? Roller coasters and racism, as Roman said back in Season 1.
    A grand finale and perfect summation episode of all of the show. Thank you to all involved. You made appointment television a great thing again

    • @anniebox9589
      @anniebox9589 Рік тому +21

      And she is not privileged and smug? Shiv stans are truly something

    • @StommelenGames
      @StommelenGames Рік тому +4

      @@anniebox9589 Shiv hates privilege and smugness? Nice joke

    • @Despair505
      @Despair505 Рік тому +18

      @@StommelenGames I think she hates it specifically in Kendall

    • @Em35nyc
      @Em35nyc Рік тому +2

      @@anniebox9589 relax

    • @hollytree3379
      @hollytree3379 Рік тому +17

      You mean when he flirted with Stewie? She changed her mind AT THE VERY LAST MOMENT because she couldn't stand seeing Kendall win. She literally admits it "I can't stomach you." They're jealous children and winning CEO means winning Dad's love. Except Shiv behaved just like Logan here -- promising Kendall the role before ripping it away. She's insane for how it went down, not for resenting Kendall. Her last minute choice was selfishly motivated. Shiv apologists need to stfu.

  • @marlone3680
    @marlone3680 Рік тому +92

    I love that Rome even while being grabbed manages to say "you have no kids" just to get under Ken's skin.

  • @lexisisk8079
    @lexisisk8079 Рік тому +96

    I LOVED Roman protecting Shiv and getting mad at Kendall for putting his hands on Shiv because she’s pregnant

    • @margarethmichelina5146
      @margarethmichelina5146 3 місяці тому +1

      And if you remember in Season One, they had a childish fight in the hospital.

  • @ALLIDOISNGUYEN
    @ALLIDOISNGUYEN Рік тому +161

    Shiv literally played out the mad selfish sibling so well and it's heartbreakingly beautiful

    • @billyobfas6962
      @billyobfas6962 Рік тому +35

      The actress is amazing. Shiv is so unlikable in this scene. Look at the faces she’s making gaslighting Kendall

    • @kathrynorozco5416
      @kathrynorozco5416 11 місяців тому

      @@billyobfas6962Shiv was always a bitch to Ken and even her husband Tom. She doesn’t give a crap about anyone but herself

    • @thrace_bot1012
      @thrace_bot1012 11 місяців тому +9

      Spiteful, not selfish

  • @lila7663
    @lila7663 Рік тому +452

    this scene had me howling with laughter while being emotionally devastated, so good

    • @ac-ye6sf
      @ac-ye6sf Рік тому +28

      fr. my girl finally got like an ounce of power over her brothers and took the opportunity to twist the knife. perfect end to all their arcs

    • @IvaN-cf7qt
      @IvaN-cf7qt Рік тому +28

      ​@@ac-ye6sfshe is the scorpion on the back of the frog. And Tom will get tired of her and get a new woman in a couple of years . Shiv will end up exactly like her mother.

    • @ac-ye6sf
      @ac-ye6sf Рік тому +1

      @@IvaN-cf7qt projecting fr. all of that is of your own creation and has nothing to do with the actual show. and yea ofc shivs gonna lose, she’s also a selfish idiot. but in the final power play against each other she was the one with the advantage and used it to kick them after she’d already made up her mind. they all walked away from mattson and menchken having lost or given away all of their leverage and when that comes to a head with this argument where shiv has the power and agency she wants so desperately, she plays her losing hand perfectly. finally getting the chance to fuck over/feel powerful over her brothers just to use that to sentence herself to her own shitty ending. perfect ending for all of them.

    • @amateurartist23
      @amateurartist23 Рік тому

      You're sociopathic and psychotic just like the siblings

    • @yc6018
      @yc6018 Рік тому +12

      ​@@IvaN-cf7qt if Tom isnt thrown out by matsson once menken loses or approves the deal

  • @ProducShuns
    @ProducShuns 9 місяців тому +45

    Shakespearean tragedy playing out in the board room amongst a bunch of spoiled billionaires. Gotta love it.

  • @VanAlexi
    @VanAlexi Рік тому +21

    1:41 Shiv’s “Hehe you don’t get to be CEO” face was great. Such great acting from Sarah.

  • @niallh4194
    @niallh4194 Рік тому +140

    God the writing is so incredible and acting. All 3 are hugely narcissistic and layered with trauma yet they are so compelling, interesting and provoke some sort of sympathy that you can't help but feel rage, fear and sadness for their decisions.

  • @lamario295
    @lamario295 Рік тому +63

    Shiv's facial expression and sounds are the best

    • @ac-ye6sf
      @ac-ye6sf Рік тому +8

      she’s finally like logan in this scene. twisting the knife when she finally had power over her brothers and staying in the room/argument after making up her mind just to kick him.

    • @margarethmichelina5146
      @margarethmichelina5146 Місяць тому

      Even at 3:09, she looked like Logan here

  • @questionquestion1
    @questionquestion1 8 місяців тому +26

    The "you have no kids" at 4:20 is so funny I can't. How am I just catching this 😂😭

  • @blazinpyromaniac
    @blazinpyromaniac 11 місяців тому +47

    Wow Kendall tried to use every manipulation tactic in the book. These kids are something lol

  • @almostatami
    @almostatami Рік тому +58

    My mouth was agape the entire scene. Holy hell.

  • @prxnceanime6335
    @prxnceanime6335 Рік тому +289

    This ep was a masterpiece
    Kendall putting his trust in his siblings and yet they couldnt stomach seeing him at the top…..wanted kendal to win but it is what it is

    • @Emy-fv5ny
      @Emy-fv5ny Рік тому +38

      She saw she could have it for herself through Tom...Ironic that they guy she bullied will probably bully her now 😄

    • @mitochondria3873
      @mitochondria3873 Рік тому +34

      Kendall has been in a constant loop of failure the whole show. It was never going to be him.

    • @ac-ye6sf
      @ac-ye6sf Рік тому +12

      nah he didn’t deserve to win, none of them did. perfect ending for all of them

    • @ac-ye6sf
      @ac-ye6sf Рік тому +11

      @@Emy-fv5ny eh thats a a little bit of a misread. tom being the new ceo factors in but ultimately she did it because she finally has an ounce of power over her brothers and took advantage of it. she felt like she was losing either way and she was clearly on the fence. but her and kendall’s fight is perfect because he did a bad job at convincing her when she was obviously still in the fence and by the end, it seemed like she was only still in the room listening to him to keep kicking him. she lost for ceo either way, but she knew it wasn’t fair for him to win so did the most logan thing she could’ve in the situation and fucked them both over. she’s not an idiot, she understood she could have more power by voting yes and keeping family control but she would rather lose in her own way and not just hand kendall something she wants and doesn’t think he deserves. especially cause he’s already proven that he’ll fuck her over, lie to her, betray her. best decision she could’ve made in the end. gaining some power over her brothers while still losing in her own way

    • @amitkenan3878
      @amitkenan3878 Рік тому

      @@Emy-fv5ny I wouldn't say he's bullying her, but more that they both now have each other at each other's throats

  • @kevinblue1976
    @kevinblue1976 3 місяці тому +7

    Roman bringing up the bloodline was the final straw. He had been saving that up for a long time and finally hit Ken where it hurts when he played the eldest boy card. What a great ending to a chaotic show

  • @damiensdarkcorner7924
    @damiensdarkcorner7924 6 місяців тому +25

    "That didn't happed" He dug his own grave.
    "I'M THE ELDEST BOY" he sealed it.

  • @jakeistired
    @jakeistired Рік тому +157

    That haunting guitar that pierces the argument when Ken attacks Roman made me absolutely sick. It’s like the primal nature of the rivalry between these siblings just erupted into real bloodlust. Terrifying.

    • @brendanfoster5320
      @brendanfoster5320 Рік тому +14

      I couldn’t believe what I was watching. The moment that started play, I actually started to feel unwell. Watching Ken take it out in Roman because he knows he’s fucked it was just incredible. For an instant I thought he might’ve tried to kill him.

    • @Despair505
      @Despair505 Рік тому +1

      @@brendanfoster5320 My stomach was turning during this whole argument. This show is unreal.

  • @eyshanho3322
    @eyshanho3322 Рік тому +274

    They're all doomed to lose anyways. Shiv becoming like her mother, Roman being lost , and Kendall going deeper in rock bottom because of his decision to throw away the last bit of humanity he has left to get a chance. Best ending imo.

    • @xxwhispersxx2856
      @xxwhispersxx2856 Рік тому +10

      And the cycle goes on. Complete tragedy.

    • @dv9239
      @dv9239 Рік тому +9

      ​@@xxwhispersxx2856the cycle of finding an HBO show with a better ending goes on

    • @jamesbohm3690
      @jamesbohm3690 Рік тому +3

      @@dv9239 facts. They biffed the landing. Ah well

    • @gabrielangulo4764
      @gabrielangulo4764 Рік тому +3

      Roman is Ewan, the brother that hate the company and wanted to do nothing with it

    • @conner2996
      @conner2996 Рік тому +5

      @@jamesbohm3690 in your eyes what was the ideal landing?

  • @alywncashe
    @alywncashe 3 місяці тому +6

    The Distance that Connor kept from all of them while they were watching that clip of their father in tears.... Now thats someone who truly won in the end.

  • @zone._9199
    @zone._9199 8 місяців тому +17

    One more compliment about Sarah Snook’s facial expressions lol. At 3:10, Shiv looks EXACTLY like Logan when she denies Kendall. Even says “no” and has the same head shake as Logan. I might be looking too into it but I find it funny Kendall begging Shiv for approval just like she was Logan.

  • @TAMThomasTAM
    @TAMThomasTAM Рік тому +201

    When he said "that didn't happen" he lost the game.
    When he said "I AM THE ELDEST BOY" he lost his dignity.
    And when he attacked Roman and Shiv, he lost everything.

    • @aitothechamp7263
      @aitothechamp7263 Рік тому +28

      He had already lost cus shiv was just salty

    • @killermarfidyoh138
      @killermarfidyoh138 Рік тому +10

      @@aitothechamp7263 Yea she did it out of spite.... This show is one of the greatest tragedies of our time... But nonetheless the ending is still devastating and beautiful at the same time.

    • @anniebox9589
      @anniebox9589 Рік тому +10

      How about you talk about that cvnt who betrayed his brother out of spite?

    • @NS-xx1ze
      @NS-xx1ze Рік тому +1

      ​@@anniebox9589 I don't think he betrayed him more like changed his mind when Kendall denies killing the waiter...but yeah some of it is spite because their all terrible people

    • @anniebox9589
      @anniebox9589 Рік тому

      @@NS-xx1ze they literally didn't care about that waiter story till they could use it against him. And let's be honest the waiter thing was an incident

  • @onechi
    @onechi Рік тому +559

    This scene was heartbreaking. I never knew acting could hit me so deeply. A tragedy. Gut-wrenching.

    • @domingos6371
      @domingos6371 Рік тому +8

      Acting was world class, but what about the writing?

    • @onechi
      @onechi Рік тому +12

      @@domingos6371 Writing is simply magnificent. Succession is a rarity among shows where all these aspects are incredible and come together amazingly.

    • @spacecadet2172
      @spacecadet2172 Рік тому +6

      It was cathartic to see these 3 depraved people finally get some comeuppance

    • @Arcwol
      @Arcwol Рік тому +6

      @@spacecadet2172 Oh, you mean the billions they stand to claim from the sale. Yeah, that's some comeuppance.

    • @amberlisa7365
      @amberlisa7365 Рік тому

      @@domingos6371 both amazing.

  • @thomaschristopherwhite9043
    @thomaschristopherwhite9043 7 місяців тому +12

    The desperation is so high in that room that I could feel it spilling out from my screen.

  • @alicezsa
    @alicezsa 10 місяців тому +35

    That smug look on shiv's face when she tells ken he can't be CEO because he killed someone, I DIED!!! Sarah snook is too good

    • @Winter-Alpha-Omega
      @Winter-Alpha-Omega 4 місяці тому +2

      She looks like a child when she says that.
      It shows how immature they really are deep down.

    • @alicezsa
      @alicezsa 4 місяці тому +2

      Yes, I totally agree! @@Winter-Alpha-Omega

  • @joanabarros7458
    @joanabarros7458 Рік тому +70

    In the Frog and Scorpion story, the scorpion asks a frog to carry him over a river. The frog is afraid of being stung, but the scorpion argues that if it did so, both would sink, and the scorpion would drown. The frog then agrees, but midway across the river, the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When the frog asks why, the scorpion says that it is his nature.
    Tom was right about Shiv. She is a scorpion; even though she will also lose the business she still betrays Kendal. Because losing the company is worse than losing the position to Kendal. But, Shiv was also right when she called Tom a snake.

  • @zackzaharko89
    @zackzaharko89 Рік тому +330

    This scene is perfection. Just heartbreaking and so genuine. Shiv made the right call, Kendall didn’t deserve it and is in a continuous loop

    • @alicetoyou448
      @alicetoyou448 Рік тому +30

      I told the person I was watching it with - I don’t know if I’d choose my brother or my husband in that situation either. The second she found out it was Tom, it was a real Sophie’s choice for her. I think I’d go with Tom, too, but it’s painful to watch

    • @Spaced92
      @Spaced92 Рік тому +17

      It was so lose/lose, I think the needle fully shifted when she saw Roman's wound and realised she wasn't picking family happiness either way.

    • @19thDecadePig
      @19thDecadePig Рік тому +5

      @@alicetoyou448 Good point. I mean, although it's kind of obvious, I hadn't really thought of her decision like that, and I think it explains why she's conflicted more than a lot of takes here. I don't think she would have hesitated if Tom wasn't part of the equation.

    • @alicetoyou448
      @alicetoyou448 Рік тому +33

      @@19thDecadePig Exactly! She was fully behind Ken when it was them versus just a random CEO. The waiter thing was a throwaway excuse as a smokescreen because we all know she can’t admit to her real feelings for Tom and her child.
      I’m a dark way, it’s a declaration of love in the only language Shiv can speak (voting for him in a board meeting lol), which we know Tom understands with the last scene between them.

    • @alphanerd7221
      @alphanerd7221 Рік тому

      She turned the media company she could be running over to a foreign fascist who's skeletons are much worse than Ken's and she knows it.

  • @15Candles
    @15Candles 4 місяці тому +15

    I am here after Sarah and Kieran FINALLY won their Emmys. Omg, I'm so proud for them. Good job to everyone involved in this masterpiece

  • @sammieseoul5544
    @sammieseoul5544 Рік тому +12

    the actress who plays Shiv would make a PERFECT JOKER!!!! Her facial expressions are amazing

  • @ivyinabottle
    @ivyinabottle Рік тому +20

    “I’m the eldest boy”
    Connor: I feel a disturbance in the force

  • @nahnyabuhizniz4542
    @nahnyabuhizniz4542 Рік тому +33

    The final shot of Kendal looking at the water, but he’s behind a wall. So strong.

  • @crew_is_da_man9277
    @crew_is_da_man9277 Рік тому +19

    "IT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE ANY SENSE"
    Kendall yelling gave me goosebumps I don't think I've ever felt before.

  • @amiles777
    @amiles777 Рік тому +379

    I expect an Emmy sweep for these 3, Tom, writing, directing, best series. Kendall is unhinged. He’s beyond help.

    • @HA-lo7sj
      @HA-lo7sj Рік тому +24

      I think Shiv has massive chance for episode 3 alone. She has been phenomenal this season. I think Roman has a chance too.

    • @creativeasian883
      @creativeasian883 Рік тому +5

      Not Matthew, I’m afraid. But if Brian, Jeremy and Kieran will all aubmit for the main lead category, then Matthew can definitely win the supporting male lead. Sarah will win. She so deserves it.

    • @buscape7737
      @buscape7737 Рік тому +7

      @@idontcare2851 you okay mate

    • @Chillllllllllllllllllllllll
      @Chillllllllllllllllllllllll Рік тому +7

      @@idontcare2851 just because she's a "nasty woman" in your eyes doesn't mean she can't get an Emmy nom. Just because Joker got nominated for best picture doesn't mean people support Joker killing 7 (or so) people and inspiring hundreds to do thousands

    • @amiles777
      @amiles777 Рік тому +1

      Her being pregnant is irrelevant. She’s lucid and conscious. There is no other description

  • @sapaulgoogdmen9542
    @sapaulgoogdmen9542 Рік тому +30

    Kendall trying to convince them that he didn’t actually kill that waiter is what made Roman switch. Seeing that Kendall would literally say anything or lie about killing someone to get the job.

  • @monicapatricio8344
    @monicapatricio8344 Рік тому +18

    2:06 Kendall saying WHICH!? when Shiv says about the murder...then saying he is "totally clean" and then TOTALLY losing it... in those glass windows with the whole board seeing....man, he was so doomed already.

  • @C0H87
    @C0H87 11 місяців тому +148

    He had it. He had it even when Shiv walked out of the room. Roman was still on his side at that point and I truly think they would have probably strong armed her into voting Kendall’s way. It was only when he backtracked on his story about the waiter that he not only completely lost Shiv for good but also lost Roman too. At that point he was done.

    • @annkey4091
      @annkey4091 9 місяців тому +13

      I disagree! Roman's No vote allowed Shiv to get up from the table. It had to have been the weakest corporate endorsement ever. When Roman told Shiv "why don't you just go back into that room and vote", it came across to me as if he did not care which way that she voted. Glad that you used "strong armed her into voting Kendall's way." Shiv is probably used to it from her older brothers and was sick of it. If they maintained control of the company, they were not going to offer Shiv anything and she knew it. Logan wanted the company sold and that is what she did ---- as her father, who built the company, WISHED.

    • @kylemorgan314
      @kylemorgan314 8 місяців тому

      Love this point, Shiv is glancing at Rome throughout, If Ken ever actually got Roman to actually push it was over.

    • @AnimalBlundetto-12
      @AnimalBlundetto-12 6 місяців тому +7

      No, I don't think so. Ever since Logan told her she could be the one, Shiv's ego grew to the size of Jupiter. When she initially accepted to back Kendall she was doing as a coping technique. A sort of "I'm still on top of this so out of sight, out of mind". When the time came Shiv couldn't do it since she thinks that means she lost to her brother. It's like the two of them wanted to play with the same toy and she destroyed it so neither can have it.
      Honestly, the ending is incredibly satisfying and realistic. Logan raised his kids to be a pack of ravaging wolves. The moment he died they began to turn on each other.

    • @Babushkaboi2006
      @Babushkaboi2006 4 місяці тому

      ​@@annkey4091umm if u watch the same show as me its pretty fuckin clear that none of the 4 siblings want to actually run a media cimpany exept for kendall
      He was meant to get it if anyone of them was to become the CEO he was hands down the best at it
      Ge actually wanted to run a company and not just want daddys approval and acceptance like shiv and roman
      Jen wanted it too but wanted the company as well
      Shiv nomatter what u say just couldn't stand her brothers winning
      She was a jealous prick is and always will be a jealous prick
      Fuck her

  • @alperenkeser
    @alperenkeser Рік тому +272

    Logan in the first episode:
    " I changed my mind " - and prevents Kendall from being the CEO.
    Shiv in the last episode:
    " I might have changed my mind " - prevents Kendall from being the CEO, again.
    He was never destined to have the top job. You assume he will eventually win, he has to win, but when you look at it, he is trapped in a cycle of repetition.
    PERFECT writing.

    • @theeternalnow6506
      @theeternalnow6506 4 місяці тому

      I truly hated Shiv in that moment. I should have seen it coming cause a cunt's gonna cunt as was stated before, but holy shit did it catch me off guard that time.
      They're all bad people regardless though, but Shiv is something else.

  • @goldenboy2674
    @goldenboy2674 Рік тому +51

    As soon as Shiv found out that Tom would be chosen as the CEO , Kendall was doomed. She would rather stay in an unhappy marriage but close to the person in power . Greed is a powerfull driver.

  • @macprotips
    @macprotips Рік тому +39

    Kendall channeling Dennis Reynolds with his “I AM THE GOLDEN GOD!” moment.

  • @String615
    @String615 9 місяців тому +32

    Can’t help but feel for the poor guy he will definitely never get over that moment

  • @NateGH36O
    @NateGH36O 11 місяців тому +175

    One thing this show does better than any other I’ve seen is how it chooses to reveal information. Even in this scene (arguably the climax of the entire show!!), Roman reveals that Kendall may or may not be infertile, and that Logan told Roman he didn’t think Kendall should take over because his kids are illegitimate. (Doesn’t matter if it’s true, this just hammers in the point that Logan never thought Kendall should take over) Another piece of information that’s revealed earlier this episode is that when Kendall is 7 years old, Logan promised him the company. It takes balls to hold onto information about characters like that until the literal very end, and it’s moments like that that are going to make rewatches of this show even better. Absolute Kino, absolute gold. This show is everything

    • @AlexMcMonnies
      @AlexMcMonnies 10 місяців тому +47

      Someone made a very good point about how there are literally NO flashback scenes in the whole show. It lets the audiece harvest information themselves and often even just infer stuff. The backstory of Kendall's children being a prime example right until the very end.

    • @Cherokeechuck9
      @Cherokeechuck9 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@AlexMcMonniesI would have killed for some righteous gemstones style flashback episodes but the way they did it was amazing too. They felt like real people with real histories

    • @therealkendallroy
      @therealkendallroy 7 місяців тому +1

      Logan never thought that Kendall shouldn't take over. He had Kendall's name on his will -- not Roman's or Shiv's. The showrunner, Jesse Armstrong, also confirmed that he underlined Kendall's name on the paper. If anything, it's just Logan being unable to accept that he had an autistic grandson

    • @annkey4091
      @annkey4091 6 місяців тому

      @@therealkendallroy Fate had it that Logan would not live to see Shiv and Tom's child. He could not accept Kendall's.

  • @jonathanmulondo9206
    @jonathanmulondo9206 Рік тому +46

    You can practically feel the sorrow from Kendall Roman and Shiv in that room.

  • @Bunchc2
    @Bunchc2 Рік тому +216

    Something I took away from this scene is when Ken denies killing the waiter he’s admitting he’s not a killer and as Logan said “you have to be a killer”. Not sure if that was intentional

    • @lucaspsm125
      @lucaspsm125 Рік тому +33

      it's that dichotomy between being a real killer but not a business killer that Logan also talked about. In this moment he becomes a true cold blooded killer by denying he's a real one

    • @IvaN-cf7qt
      @IvaN-cf7qt Рік тому +11

      Lmao, Logan never said be a killer in a literal way. He admitting murder does not make him a better fit for CEO.

    • @William-Gregory
      @William-Gregory Рік тому +3

      It’s more so that he is weak. He just denied it to try to convince Shiv to vote for him. At that point it’s like “well, Ken will say and/or do anything to become CEO.”

    • @DBGreatness
      @DBGreatness Рік тому +1

      🤣yep exactly. Planted the seed.

    • @luxel3365
      @luxel3365 Рік тому +2

      The thing is, Logan's "you have to be a killer" isn't absolute truth. It's not the "He'll never change" forshadowing of Better Call Saul. Logan's quote is his philosophy, his life experience, but's not applicable to everyone. Kendall has prove himself near the end that he can play killer if he really want to, but unlike Logan who has nearly perfect track record, he has plenty vulnerabilities that people can exploit, and his decision-making is much too impaired by his narcissism and impatience. If he wants to follow Logan advise to "be a killer", he has always have been a killer, which he isn't. He had a bit of time when he was finding his own way, trying to find and make his own advantages shine (they landed the deal with PGN from his final call), but then Logan's draft will was discovered and once again he go back to Logan's failing advise.

  • @amitnagpal1985
    @amitnagpal1985 11 місяців тому +10

    “Pair of rando’s” was absolutely brutal. Words can do so much damage. 😢

  • @BigTeix
    @BigTeix Рік тому +23

    Truly showed how pathetic they all are in the end in their own ways. Brilliant finale.

  • @tzetsingcheng1595
    @tzetsingcheng1595 Рік тому +47

    "Any man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king."
    - Tywin Lannister

  • @matthewlerma7248
    @matthewlerma7248 Рік тому +15

    Roman didn't get physical until he went for Shiv! Love the big brother energy

  • @inessant1559
    @inessant1559 Рік тому +28

    Rome is like Logan in his verbal toxicity
    Kendall in his physical abuse
    And Shiv with her decisions

    • @marshallyt4421
      @marshallyt4421 3 місяці тому

      Haha, spot on obersvations.😂😂

    • @margarethmichelina5146
      @margarethmichelina5146 3 місяці тому

      And then Connor has none of them since Logan abandoned him since he was a kid. He's just an airhead and way more chill.

  • @osmoticmonk
    @osmoticmonk 11 місяців тому +12

    Kendall shouting "I'M THE ELDEST BOY" reminds me of that conversation he had with Logan when he was trying to take over Waystar the first time, where Logan asked Kendall point blank what he plans on doing with the company and Kendall can't give him a straight answer. It's quite tragic seeing the conclusion of his arc - someone devoting their entire adult life towards achieving something for the sole reason of "because my dad said so."