I agree. She still has a line that I think is one of my favorites in cinema, "Sometimes I like to dance around in my underwear. Doesn't make me Madonna, never will".
@@leeharrison8222 I need to see that, again. First Addams Family wasn't bad. I don't remember it well, though. A young Christina Rici as Wednesday: "Prepare to meet your maker." She said that in the first one, right?! Anyways, Joan Cusack was suitably chilling in the conspiracy, domestic terrorist movie Arlington Road, again, showing her range.
Thelma Ritter and Mary Wickes - the two "every woman" character actresses who could put any of us right into a scene - and then steal it from a Bette Davis or Lionel Barrymore or James Stewart.
Wizard of Oz is my all-time favorite film and I adore Margaret Hamilton, but Hattie McDaniel as Mammy in Gone With the Wind richly deserved her historic best supporting actress Oscar that year, 1939.
God, I need a weekly Oscars history / commentary podcast hosted by Louis. Can't second Louis' Secrets & Lies recommendation enough as well - everyone go watch it, it's so brilliant.
Thanks so much for recognizing Thelma Ritter in "Rear Window." My wife and I thought she deserved it as well! 🙏🏻🙏🏻 Our second TR face was "Miracle on 34th St".
As much as I love Holly Hunter, but I would have taken her nomination for The Firm out, and I would have put in Joan Cusack for Adam's Family Values. It's amazing how she managed to steal the film from its already stellar cast. Cusack is just brilliant and sadly underrated.
Madeline Kahn in everything she did, but specifically Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein, High Anxiety and Clue. If they ever give posthumous lifetime achievement awards, she should be the first. Also: a cosplay event called MadelineCon.
@@ascent8487 Agreed! She so deserved that first, mostly unexpected, Oscar nomination. She is up there as a beautiful comedic actress with Carole Lombard, Myrna Loy, Roz Russel.
Louis, you are the sharp-tongued sister I didn't know I needed. Great video. Highlights: Joan Cusack being right in line with Marissa Tomei and Diane Wiest (never would have thought of this but true!). Joan Cusack looking like a Kabuki warlord! Geraldine Chaplin invented Parker Posey. I'm dying! And looking forward to more. Now I'm going to go check out the Judy Maxwell store.
Just saw The Landlord within the last couple years. It is surprisingly good and the inter rational relevancy of the movie is dare i say: Brilliantly done. Beau Bridges plays the young, 20 something spoiled rich boy Urbane, property owner Landlord ... and the movie is sooo not a cliche. For those not in the know check it out.
@@connorrorison4247 where were you in my life the year when this movie came out and I saw it 24 times in the movie theater and I would say those exact words?
Props to Joan Cusack for turning a theoretical liability -- her speech defect -- into a strength. I could say the same about Carol Kane, too. (You can add James Stewart of Bob Newhart to that list.) (I'm a stutterer, so I speak from experience.)
Louis, I just love listening to you enthusiastically talk about movies!❤ And you ALWAYS introduce me to movies I’ve never heard of and remind me of movies I want to revisit.
Love you mentioned Thelma Ritter in this video. I love her whenever she turns up in a movie. To me she should have won the best supporting actress Oscar for Pickup on South Street. Such a brilliant performance by her in that film. I love when acting is so good you "feel it" in your gut. I really felt for her character in that film.
Great video and list - just discovered your channel. One correction...I rewatched the last section and I think you said the last group of people DID get nominated, but didn't win...Unfortunately Margaret Hamilton was not nominated for The Wizard of Oz, or tragically for any of her films.
Margaret Hamilton certainly deserved an Oscar nom, but she never got one for The Wizard of Oz. I believe there were a few "For your consideration..." ads, but she didn't make the list.
I actually did not mean to say that -- I obviously know the '39 nominees by heart! Geraldine Fitzgerald would probably be my choice to be switched out; Edna May Oliver is enjoyably stubborn in Drums Along the Mohawk, which is a solid epic
@@CmonVogue I figured it was a slip of the tongue, but I had to go remind myself of the nominees for that year because Hamilton was obviously so deserving for the indelibility of her performance, although, of course, that wasn't obvious to anyone yet, plus, I can't imagine 1930s Hollywood ever believing that any kind of witch role would deserve an Oscar (unless, of course, that witch was played by Bette).
Two suggestions: 1. Madeline Kahn in basically everything. I don't feel like I need to justify this. 2. Veronica Cartwright in 1978 Invasion of the Body Snatchers and Alien. I adore VC. She is one of the best criers of all time. She gets into the ugly cry territory that most actors stray from. She has fantastic lines in IOTBS, just some really great conspiracy theory type lines. She then comes off as the most sane in Alien when she is on the verge of breaking down. I'd need to rewatch The Birds and The Children's Hour to see if either were worthy. She was good in The Birds, but I don't know if there was enough there. I'd also need to rewatch The Witches of Eastwick. She is great in The Right Stuff, but that is a stacked cast and I would put Mary Jo Deschanel or Pamala Reed as the likelier to have been nominated.
The Children's Hour was ahead of its time, both book and film. We were students...and did not understand what was going on. Only that it was unfair, somehow. Years later...the light dawned, and I was infuriated by the destruction caused by small , envious minds.
Judy Parfitt in ‘Dolores Claiborne’ Karen Black in ‘Come back to the five and dime, Jimmy Dean…’ Shelly Duvall in ‘Three Women’ Veronica Cartwright in The Witches of Eastwick.’
Love retro Louis diving into Oscar lore! Grahame was in the biggest hit of the year ("The Greatest Show on Earth"), was a fantastic femme fatale in "Sudden Fear" and worked opposite Robert Mitchum and Jane Russell in "Macao" the same year as "The Bad and the Beautiful"- I think getting the nod, then win for "Sudden Fear" would have aged a lot better for Grahame, but "Bad" was the big year-end release that got a lot of Oscar buzz, going on to win five Academy Awards. Also note: I wish it was the opposite, but Hamilton was not nominated for "Oz." Also, 1953 is showing for 1954 when discussing the Thelma Ritter in "Rear Window" race. And thanks for the shout out to Carolyn Jones in "The Bachelor Party"- one of the greatest performances in a tiny role ever.
Yes...Joan Cusack for "Debbie" in the Addams Family Values and Margaret Hamilton as "The Wicked Witch of the West" in The Wizard of Oz definitely deserved nominations and wins in the best supporting actress Oscar category. 2 of my favorite cinematic villains. 😁
I LOVE how righteously indignant Louis gets! Please keep doing these videos- talk fast, get mad, educate us - you are a blast to watch. I'm bingeing all of your Oscar Snub educational series right now. Hard to keep up with the lists of movies you refer to because not all of them are Oscar nominees we can easily reference by year.
@@garymeise673Saw it in the theater as well! I'm not even sure I've seen it since then but their initial meetup scene still lives in my brain rent free.
This video has given me life. Thank you. You are so correct about Thelma Ritter. I love her in "Rear Window" which I got to see on the big screen a few years ago. She, Edna May Oliver and Marjorie Main are three of my all-time favorite character actresses.
Am I crying for joy at this special as much as the Olympics? Yes. Yes I am! Also... Louis... I agree that no "nepo babies" should be left out of movies or television or music for "who they are"... But, I truly MISS actors becoming known for "who they AREN'T"... Are they silent or are they SILENCED? xo
Another Oscar snub: Keke Palmer in Nope (2022.) It’s such a great performance, so underrated. I know it’s not a great film but she gave one the year’s best performances. Certainly deserved the nomination and win. Only rivals Stephanie Hsu and certainly better than the year’s winner, JLC. Joan Cusack 100%!!! She’s mesmerizing in Addams Family Values. She makes it one of my favorite films. Yes, Secrets & Lies is a dynamic film with brilliant performances. I still think MJB should have won the Oscar that year.
Glad to see love for Addams Family Values. It's a slam-dunk comedy and just such a confidently-crafted film that I'm in awe of it. Every single person was perfectly cast and brought their A-game to their roles. The movie got a perfectly deserved Oscar nomination for best Art/Set Direction, and I am 100% on board with that, it visually tells its story succinctly. Sorry, I can't help but rant about AFV, it's fantastic, and Joan Cusack was indeed beyond excellent in it.
Thelma Ritter is the only actress that gave life to the otherwise dull performances in "Misfits". She was so far ahead of her time in the way she acted, it´s simply stunning.
Thank you. The Oscars need a Best Ensemble award, like the SAGs. 1. Nashville predated the award by two decades. 2. Maybe the award would have prevented two of the most Best Film Oscar misfires of all time. a) Shakespeare in Love and Crash won the SAG Best Ensemble and Oscar Best Film. b) If Oscar had Best Ensemble, Oscar voters would have felt more free to vote for Saving Private Ryan and Brokeback Mountain as Best Film. Both are more deserving than Shakespeare and Crash, the winners in their respectful years. 3. Maybe it would prevent acting award misfires, especially supporting. a) A few years, a film took three of the five slots. Like the Godfather and Best Supporting Actor. b) Prevent award fraud. An unworthy Lead Nominee would instead be nominated for Ensemble and Supporting.
Great list! Appreciate the reasoning and was impressed by your knowledge of movies. I'll definitely check out some of those films. P.S. I've often felt the same way about best picture winners, how 'important' films are often chosen over films whose craftsmanship are overshadowed by their mass appeal (or perception, as you mentioned about Hitchcock).
Just found your channel. First off, I like your videos a lot. Second, I thank you so much for not using AI for narration. Your comments are fantastic, thoughtful, cogent, and interesting (and spot-on!!). Please keep things as good as they are, and I'll be a (new) subscriber for life!!!
Dutifully following your instructions to comment about Secrets & Lies; I just watched this film for the first time within the last year and was blown away. Absolutely beautiful and I agree that more people should be talking about it!
First of all, a great big YES in support of Thelma Ritter! Secondly, thank you for giving me a list of more movies I need to watch. And thirdly, accept my expression of delight for the fact that you don't go negative -- you have something good to say about everyone!
Angela Lansbury was in one of my favorite movies "The World of Henry Orient" where she played an adulterous bee-otch ice queen and I loved her in "Blue Hawaii" as Elvis' mother with a southern accent, even though she was only ten years older than him. It's amazing that she never won an Emmy award even though she was nominated 18 times! She became a Disney Legend in 1995 and won five Tony awards, as well as some other ones, so that says something.
I love that you mention “The World of Henry Orient” which is an all time favorite film for me. The two girls were terrific and Angela was dead on as the unfaithful wife that the girls discover while following around their favorite crush, Henry Orient. Angela Lansbury was always a great actress. The Emmys had it way wrong for never giving her an Emmy.
So spot on regarding Teresa Wright in “Shadow of A Doubt”! This was the first time I’ve seen you! I’m a huge Thelma Ritter fan as well (she should have won for “Pillow Talk”). You are pure Awesomeness!
OMG!!! I've never laughed harder while at the same time nodding and snapping my fingers and exclaiming, "that's right!" or "what? really?". Had so much fun watching this segment and immediately subscribed. Looking forward to laughing and learning more. Thanks for the good work!!
On the Hitchcock list, would want to add that Foreign Correspondent has a Best Pic nom - same yr as Rebecca. ❤ Rosie Perez shout out! Would also mention Kathleen Byron - Black Narcissus
I absolutely love your commentary and agree with much of what you say. The Kabuki Warlord line almost made me implode. You're praise of Joan Cusack reminded me of her very small but unforgettable non-speaking (I believe if I remember correctly) role in Sixteen Candles. Both she and her brother John had small roles in that classic John Hughes film. Oh, I'm now a subscriber to your channel so y'all can look forward to frequent annoying posts. Enjoy your day everyone
Joan Cusack in Addams Family Values was such a masterclass in how to be a villian who has comedic, kooky and likable qualities that steals every scene she is in with a performance so sharp and purposeful it was just incredible to see, one of the best and quotable performances of all time. She was that good!!!
When I saw Addams Family Values in the theatre, I nearly fell out of my seat laughing. It remains my favorite comedy to this day. I must have seen it 2 dozen times by now.
First time to the channel, and I found the subject and discussion fascinating and provocative. Spot on on most all points, some others omitted for snub talk would have been drinking buddies Burton and O'Toole with 15 competitive Oscar nods between them, with ZERO win. And one glaring pain in the back of my teeth for 25 years now from 70th Oscar Ceremony...Helen Hunt's abysmal Best Actress honor for "As Good As It Gets"...horrible. I look forward to learning more on your channel. Cheers
One major snub was in 1977, Lynne Frederick for Voyage of the Damned. Lee Grant (who played Lynne’s mother in the film) got the nomination instead. However, Beatrice Straight won that year for The Network. Lynne wasn’t nominated because she wasn’t as known as Lee Grant. Grant also confirmed in her book that the only reason she got nominated was because she shaved her head on screen in the film. As good as Lee Grants performance was, it has no substance without Lynne’s performance. Highly recommend you see Voyage if you haven’t seen it already. Lynne Frederick was magnificent in the film!!!
I would love for Izzy Custodio from Be Kind Rewind to be a guest on the pod because she goes in depth on the politics of the Oscars, specifically for the Best Actress and Best Supporting Actress categories. They’re always playing in our faces 😤
What a genius combo! I love Be Kind Rewind's video essays, and I bet the mutual language of Oscar's trivia that Louis and Izzy share would create a dynamic conversation
Some pretty good choices, especially Joan Cusack. Here are some of mine, I know it's a long list, but my list was longer and I had to whittle it down to this. And I know, the majority is 80s and 90s, but hey, I'm an 80s and 90s kid 1947 Kathleen Byron - Black Narcissus 1954 Mercedes McCambridge - Johnny Guitar 1955 Angela Lansbury - The Court Jester 1983 Melinda Dillon - A Christmas Story 1985 Any of the female cast from Clue 1989 Laura San Giacomo - sex, lies, and videotape 1990 Glenn Close - Reversal of Fortune 1991 Joanna Cassidy - Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead 1995 Jennifer Elise Cox - The Brady Bunch Movie 1996 Drew Barrymore - Scream 1996 Pam Ferris - Matilda 1999 Sigourney Weaver - Galaxy Quest 2000 Eartha Kitt - The Emperor's New Groove 2005 Glenn Close - The Chumscrubber 2011 Shirley MacLaine - Bernie 2014 Suzanne Clement - Mommy 2017 Lois Smith - Marjorie Prime
I haven't watched many of your videos, but I strongly agreed with you about The English Patient and Ordinary People, two of my all-time favorite films, both masterpieces.
Love your informed appreciation of great unsung actresses. Dame Edith in Earnest…YES!!! Joan Cusack…YES!!! The Landlord…YES!!! Grant has one of my favorite lines of all time: “NAACP! N****rs aren’t always colored people!” Thelma Ritter…YES!!! Tomlin = epic. A little known standup line as Edith Ann: “If you take a goldfish out of the bowl, he will do a dance for you. But he will not do it for very long.” Watched (but didn’t speak to) Carolyn Jones as she ordered a U-Haul in Hollywood just before I dropped off my own. To me she’ll always be Invasion of the Body Snatchers. What about Grahame’s Ado Annie? Marvelously weird. Shook Lansbury’s hand backstage during the Sweeny L.A. run. She couldn’t have been less impressed, but I still love her. Saw her in the 1968 Mame tour. Yes, I’m that old. Her cold-hearted bitch in The Harvey Girls is one of my faves.
You are so right about Lee Grant. She should have won for The Landlord. The scene with Pearl Bailey where she drunkenly puts a hamhock in her purse had me howling. Missed opportunity by the Academy because she is so much better than Helen Hayes in Airport.
You are so right about 'The Landlord'. Criminally underseen. And Lee Grant fought for that role as the Mother, though she was years too young, because she knew she could nail the character.
"A handbag!" I LOVE this version of Earnest made by a son of WWI Prime Minister Herbert Asquith. Thank you for shouting out that film. I'd love to know who was long-listed each year, I'm guessing some of these people might have been long-listed.
Oh man, YES...YES YES YES...especially Joan Cusack! AFV is my most favorite movie...I cannot ever get enough of it. And Dame Edith and Thelma are just smashing in anything they did. Love them!
Joan Cusack's eye shadow was another character in Working Girl.
I agree. She still has a line that I think is one of my favorites in cinema, "Sometimes I like to dance around in my underwear. Doesn't make me Madonna, never will".
indeed it was 😅
She deserved the Oscar.😊
Joan Cussack’s performance in Adams Family Values was a tour de force
I love her in that movie. I watch it every year around Halloween and the humor never gets old for me. She's a great actress with range.
@@leeharrison8222 I need to see that, again. First Addams Family wasn't bad. I don't remember it well, though. A young Christina Rici as Wednesday: "Prepare to meet your maker." She said that in the first one, right?!
Anyways, Joan Cusack was suitably chilling in the conspiracy, domestic terrorist movie Arlington Road, again, showing her range.
Finally someone who speaks on the supremacy of Thelma Ritter
Indeed!
Thelma Ritter and Mary Wickes - the two "every woman" character actresses who could put any of us right into a scene - and then steal it from a Bette Davis or Lionel Barrymore or James Stewart.
Thelma was robbed!
YES
Yes Thelma Ritter in Rear Window. "What's General Motors got to be nervous about, over production I'd say"
MARGARET HAMILTON: "THE WIZARD OF OZ: YES!!! A performance for the ages!!!!
Except she wasn't nominated.
@@garymacmillan6401 Yes, she was not nominated, and is there a more iconic, chilling, unforgettable performance in the history of film?
@@johnnolan5579 Totally agree. The whole film is a masterpiece.
Wizard of Oz is my all-time favorite film and I adore Margaret Hamilton, but Hattie McDaniel as Mammy in Gone With the Wind richly deserved her historic best supporting actress Oscar that year, 1939.
@@johnnolan5579 No. Oh, that was a rhetorical question. Sorry.
God, I need a weekly Oscars history / commentary podcast hosted by Louis.
Can't second Louis' Secrets & Lies recommendation enough as well - everyone go watch it, it's so brilliant.
Also chiming in re Secrets and Lies. Brenda Blethyn and Timothy Spall! It's stunning.
Same!!
Yes!
That film makes me wither to this day just thinking about it
Thanks so much for recognizing Thelma Ritter in "Rear Window." My wife and I thought she deserved it as well! 🙏🏻🙏🏻 Our second TR face was "Miracle on 34th St".
I could watch Louis talk about the Oscar’s for 1 million hours.
Over 57 years?!
same. I also wish he would guest on This Had Oscar Buzz. Curious to know what movie he’d pick to talk about
Im in love!
OK, I know this will be perceived as inappropriate, but I’d like to watch him doing anything shirtless. Or in a Speedo. OK, i said it.
@@jamiebranco4092
Right there with you.
Addam's Family Values is a legendary comedy, and Joan Cusack was incredible along with the rest of the cast.
As much as I love Holly Hunter, but I would have taken her nomination for The Firm out, and I would have put in Joan Cusack for Adam's Family Values. It's amazing how she managed to steal the film from its already stellar cast. Cusack is just brilliant and sadly underrated.
I think casting directors see her as niche.
"A Kabuki Warlord who sometimes goes into the office" OMG! Louis you are too funny!
Came here to post the same quote. I literally LOLed! 🤣🤣🤣
I nearly spat out my coffee at that and then just let it dribble down my chin as I shrugged and thought... "Yeah, that's about accurate."
Ah, the 80s...
Madeline Kahn in "What's Up, Doc?"
Madeline Kahn in everything she did, but specifically Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein, High Anxiety and Clue. If they ever give posthumous lifetime achievement awards, she should be the first. Also: a cosplay event called MadelineCon.
Right there with you!
Madeline Kahn in almost everything she was in.
@@ascent8487
Agreed! She so deserved that first, mostly unexpected, Oscar nomination. She is up there as a beautiful comedic actress with Carole Lombard, Myrna Loy, Roz Russel.
Louis, you are the sharp-tongued sister I didn't know I needed. Great video. Highlights: Joan Cusack being right in line with Marissa Tomei and Diane Wiest (never would have thought of this but true!). Joan Cusack looking like a Kabuki warlord!
Geraldine Chaplin invented Parker Posey. I'm dying! And looking forward to more. Now I'm going to go check out the Judy Maxwell store.
Yeah, that was another great line-comparison. Geraldine in Nashville and Parker side by side.😆 Forget about it🤣
Audiences are routinely “um….wrong!” Savage!😂😂
Hahaha...loved the Susan Hayward intro! Love Secrets and Lies.
“The Landlord” callout in this vid is everything to me. But, Ruth Negga not even being nominated still
keeps me up at night.
Just saw The Landlord within the last couple years. It is surprisingly good and the inter rational relevancy of the movie is dare i say: Brilliantly done. Beau Bridges plays the young, 20 something spoiled rich boy Urbane, property owner Landlord ... and the movie is sooo not a cliche. For those not in the know check it out.
A Kabuki Warlord....Sir, You´ve made my day...🤣
I HOWLED
I’m 💀
You gave me a a complete catch'-up period of all the movies I never had time to watch to watch. Fascinating delivery...clear and precise. Well done.
Thank you for talking about older films! I feel like so many Oscar-related channels act like movies didn’t exist before 1970!
The biggest snub in my opinion is Michelle Pfeiffer for Batman returns
There should be an awards show for the really good campy movies and Batman Returns should have been in it.
Honestly, one could argue she’s a lead in that film considering she has more screen time than Micheal Keaton/Batman
@@connorrorison4247 where were you in my life the year when this movie came out and I saw it 24 times in the movie theater and I would say those exact words?
Meow.
Amen!!! Best female villain performance since The Wicked Witch of the West, still my fave Batman movie of all time!! Robbed of an Oscar!!
Joan Cusack in In & Out. She was wonderful
And how about Joan Cusack in the totally unknown and underrated "Men Don't Leave?"
I saw Men Don’t Leave on a flight. Meh. As for Cusack, I love her but in that film she was kind of a reboot of Geena Davis in the Accidental Tourist.
Props to Joan Cusack for turning a theoretical liability -- her speech defect -- into a strength. I could say the same about Carol Kane, too. (You can add James Stewart of Bob Newhart to that list.) (I'm a stutterer, so I speak from experience.)
And also nominated so wouldn't apply here...
OMG! We died dead we laughed SO hard when she ‘melts’ down in the wedding dress! Had to rewind that scene I don’t remember how many times.
Margaret Hamilton was NOT nominated for a supporting Oscar award for "Wizard of Oz." Hamilton never recieved a nomiation for any film.
Louis, I just love listening to you enthusiastically talk about movies!❤ And you ALWAYS introduce me to movies I’ve never heard of and remind me of movies I want to revisit.
I'm going to try to fit "ha-a-and-ba-a-a-ag" into my every day conversation.
make it work, one way or another! lol
Love you mentioned Thelma Ritter in this video. I love her whenever she turns up in a movie. To me she should have won the best supporting actress Oscar for Pickup on South Street. Such a brilliant performance by her in that film. I love when acting is so good you "feel it" in your gut. I really felt for her character in that film.
Great video and list - just discovered your channel. One correction...I rewatched the last section and I think you said the last group of people DID get nominated, but didn't win...Unfortunately Margaret Hamilton was not nominated for The Wizard of Oz, or tragically for any of her films.
Lee Grant in The Landlord is SO UNSUNG, thank you!!! I'm never not thinking about her acting with icon Pearl Bailey
Loved THE LANDLORD. Very underseen.
you are a delight.................. Loved it.
Margaret Hamilton certainly deserved an Oscar nom, but she never got one for The Wizard of Oz. I believe there were a few "For your consideration..." ads, but she didn't make the list.
I actually did not mean to say that -- I obviously know the '39 nominees by heart! Geraldine Fitzgerald would probably be my choice to be switched out; Edna May Oliver is enjoyably stubborn in Drums Along the Mohawk, which is a solid epic
@@CmonVogue I figured it was a slip of the tongue, but I had to go remind myself of the nominees for that year because Hamilton was obviously so deserving for the indelibility of her performance, although, of course, that wasn't obvious to anyone yet, plus, I can't imagine 1930s Hollywood ever believing that any kind of witch role would deserve an Oscar (unless, of course, that witch was played by Bette).
Beverly D’Angelo in “Coal Miner’s Daughter” is one of the worst snubs. She was fantastic in that movie.
Two suggestions: 1. Madeline Kahn in basically everything. I don't feel like I need to justify this.
2. Veronica Cartwright in 1978 Invasion of the Body Snatchers and Alien. I adore VC. She is one of the best criers of all time. She gets into the ugly cry territory that most actors stray from. She has fantastic lines in IOTBS, just some really great conspiracy theory type lines. She then comes off as the most sane in Alien when she is on the verge of breaking down.
I'd need to rewatch The Birds and The Children's Hour to see if either were worthy. She was good in The Birds, but I don't know if there was enough there. I'd also need to rewatch The Witches of Eastwick. She is great in The Right Stuff, but that is a stacked cast and I would put Mary Jo Deschanel or Pamala Reed as the likelier to have been nominated.
The Children's Hour was ahead of its time, both book and film. We were students...and did not understand what was going on. Only that it was unfair, somehow. Years later...the light dawned, and I was infuriated by the destruction caused by small , envious minds.
Actually, Cartwright might have been the best performer in the movie.
Thank you so much for bringing attention to these magnificent overlooked performances!! Thelma Ritter is my all time favorite character actress.
Judy Parfitt in ‘Dolores Claiborne’
Karen Black in ‘Come back to the five and dime, Jimmy Dean…’
Shelly Duvall in ‘Three Women’
Veronica Cartwright in The Witches of Eastwick.’
Veronica Cartwright in "Alien" and "Invasion of the Body Snatchers."
MADELINE KAHN in What's Up Doc!
Damn! How did I miss your return to UA-cam!? I've been waiting for this content since Verbal Vogueing! SUBSCRIBED!
Love retro Louis diving into Oscar lore! Grahame was in the biggest hit of the year ("The Greatest Show on Earth"), was a fantastic femme fatale in "Sudden Fear" and worked opposite Robert Mitchum and Jane Russell in "Macao" the same year as "The Bad and the Beautiful"- I think getting the nod, then win for "Sudden Fear" would have aged a lot better for Grahame, but "Bad" was the big year-end release that got a lot of Oscar buzz, going on to win five Academy Awards. Also note: I wish it was the opposite, but Hamilton was not nominated for "Oz." Also, 1953 is showing for 1954 when discussing the Thelma Ritter in "Rear Window" race. And thanks for the shout out to Carolyn Jones in "The Bachelor Party"- one of the greatest performances in a tiny role ever.
Great video. One correction: Margaret Hamilton wasn't nominated for The Wizard of Oz.
Yes...Joan Cusack for "Debbie" in the Addams Family Values and Margaret Hamilton as "The Wicked Witch of the West" in The Wizard of Oz definitely deserved nominations and wins in the best supporting actress Oscar category. 2 of my favorite cinematic villains. 😁
I LOVE how righteously indignant Louis gets! Please keep doing these videos- talk fast, get mad, educate us - you are a blast to watch. I'm bingeing all of your Oscar Snub educational series right now. Hard to keep up with the lists of movies you refer to because not all of them are Oscar nominees we can easily reference by year.
a Marianne Jean Baptiste callout this early in the morning? I was not prepared.
One of my favorite movies of all time. And Brenda Blethyn is brilliant too!
Secrets and Lies was absolutely sublime. I will never forget watching this movie in the theater. Baptiste and Brenda B. simply A level
@@garymeise673Saw it in the theater as well! I'm not even sure I've seen it since then but their initial meetup scene still lives in my brain rent free.
This video has given me life. Thank you. You are so correct about Thelma Ritter. I love her in "Rear Window" which I got to see on the big screen a few years ago. She, Edna May Oliver and Marjorie Main are three of my all-time favorite character actresses.
Am I crying for joy at this special as much as the Olympics? Yes. Yes I am! Also... Louis... I agree that no "nepo babies" should be left out of movies or television or music for "who they are"... But, I truly MISS actors becoming known for "who they AREN'T"... Are they silent or are they SILENCED? xo
I was brushing my teeth and thoroughly unprepared for the kabuki warlord comment.
Shoutout to Miriam Margolyes as Mrs Mingott in The Age of Innocence who got robbed too.
Another Oscar snub: Keke Palmer in Nope (2022.) It’s such a great performance, so underrated. I know it’s not a great film but she gave one the year’s best performances. Certainly deserved the nomination and win. Only rivals Stephanie Hsu and certainly better than the year’s winner, JLC.
Joan Cusack 100%!!! She’s mesmerizing in Addams Family Values. She makes it one of my favorite films.
Yes, Secrets & Lies is a dynamic film with brilliant performances. I still think MJB should have won the Oscar that year.
Keke yes!!! So talented
Thank you. There has never been a better comedic performance that Joan Cusack in Addams family Values.
My first visit and I’ll be back. Thelma Ritter was a wonderful force on the screen. Yes, loved this autopsy
I loved this. Funny and informative! Great job.
Glad to see love for Addams Family Values. It's a slam-dunk comedy and just such a confidently-crafted film that I'm in awe of it. Every single person was perfectly cast and brought their A-game to their roles. The movie got a perfectly deserved Oscar nomination for best Art/Set Direction, and I am 100% on board with that, it visually tells its story succinctly. Sorry, I can't help but rant about AFV, it's fantastic, and Joan Cusack was indeed beyond excellent in it.
Thelma Ritter is the only actress that gave life to the otherwise dull performances in "Misfits". She was so far ahead of her time in the way she acted, it´s simply stunning.
So sorry, Patty Duke. Angela Lansbury deserved that Oscar for her magnificent performance as the villainous “Mrs. Iselin”.
Patty Duke died in 2016. So, RIP is warranted,imo.
@@yvonneplant9434 Patty was my girl 😔. I was a huge fan of hers. 👏
Thank you.
The Oscars need a Best Ensemble award, like the SAGs.
1. Nashville predated the award by two decades.
2. Maybe the award would have prevented two of the most Best Film Oscar misfires of all time.
a) Shakespeare in Love and Crash won the SAG Best Ensemble and Oscar Best Film.
b) If Oscar had Best Ensemble, Oscar voters would have felt more free to vote for Saving Private Ryan and Brokeback Mountain as Best Film. Both are more deserving than Shakespeare and Crash, the winners in their respectful years.
3. Maybe it would prevent acting award misfires, especially supporting.
a) A few years, a film took three of the five slots. Like the Godfather and Best Supporting Actor.
b) Prevent award fraud. An unworthy Lead Nominee would instead be nominated for Ensemble and Supporting.
Ruth Negga. That performance keeps me up at night.
Thelma Ritter!!!!!
Suzanne Pleshette for The Birds
Ooooh, good one.
Her longing for Mitch in her monologue is tragically sublime.
Great list! Appreciate the reasoning and was impressed by your knowledge of movies. I'll definitely check out some of those films. P.S. I've often felt the same way about best picture winners, how 'important' films are often chosen over films whose craftsmanship are overshadowed by their mass appeal (or perception, as you mentioned about Hitchcock).
Just found your channel. First off, I like your videos a lot. Second, I thank you so much for not using AI for narration. Your comments are fantastic, thoughtful, cogent, and interesting (and spot-on!!). Please keep things as good as they are, and I'll be a (new) subscriber for life!!!
Dutifully following your instructions to comment about Secrets & Lies; I just watched this film for the first time within the last year and was blown away. Absolutely beautiful and I agree that more people should be talking about it!
Jean Hagen should have won for Singin’ In The Rain.
Hear, hear!
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First of all, a great big YES in support of Thelma Ritter! Secondly, thank you for giving me a list of more movies I need to watch. And thirdly, accept my expression of delight for the fact that you don't go negative -- you have something good to say about everyone!
What’s up Doc is one of my favorite movies. I’m a good gay boy
Right there with you!
Hilarious film!
I’m not a gay boy, but loved that movie since I was a little girl!
Love it!
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You have good taste!
Angela Lansbury was in one of my favorite movies "The World of Henry Orient" where she played an adulterous bee-otch ice queen and I loved her in "Blue Hawaii" as Elvis' mother with a southern accent, even though she was only ten years older than him. It's amazing that she never won an Emmy award even though she was nominated 18 times! She became a Disney Legend in 1995 and won five Tony awards, as well as some other ones, so that says something.
I love that you mention “The World of Henry Orient” which is an all time favorite film for me. The two girls were terrific and Angela was dead on as the unfaithful wife that the girls discover while following around their favorite crush, Henry Orient. Angela Lansbury was always a great actress. The Emmys had it way wrong for never giving her an Emmy.
Yes Yes Yes Margaret Hamilton Wizard of Oz, her performance is perfect and unforgettable.
So spot on regarding Teresa Wright in “Shadow of A Doubt”! This was the first time I’ve seen you! I’m a huge Thelma Ritter fan as well (she should have won for “Pillow Talk”). You are pure Awesomeness!
You nailed it. thx
Love that you champion Secrets & Lies!! Such a special & important movie.
OMG!!! I've never laughed harder while at the same time nodding and snapping my fingers and exclaiming, "that's right!" or "what? really?". Had so much fun watching this segment and immediately subscribed. Looking forward to laughing and learning more. Thanks for the good work!!
On the Hitchcock list, would want to add that Foreign Correspondent has a Best Pic nom - same yr as Rebecca. ❤ Rosie Perez shout out! Would also mention Kathleen Byron - Black Narcissus
Louis - discovered this by accident. YOU ARE A GEM!!! I agree with EVERY snub you've identified. Keep up the good work!
Ruth Negga in Passing was phenomenal and I was devastated she wasn't nominated.
I haven't seen that but everything I've seen her in she's very good. She's the only reason I would sit through Preacher.
I absolutely love your commentary and agree with much of what you say. The Kabuki Warlord line almost made me implode. You're praise of Joan Cusack reminded me of her very small but unforgettable non-speaking (I believe if I remember correctly) role in Sixteen Candles. Both she and her brother John had small roles in that classic John Hughes film. Oh, I'm now a subscriber to your channel so y'all can look forward to frequent annoying posts. Enjoy your day everyone
I love the way you love movies!!!!This has been fun and I learned some new films to see. Thank you.
You’re so passionate, love it!
Joan Cusack in Addams Family Values was such a masterclass in how to be a villian who has comedic, kooky and likable qualities that steals every scene she is in with a performance so sharp and purposeful it was just incredible to see, one of the best and quotable performances of all time. She was that good!!!
When I saw Addams Family Values in the theatre, I nearly fell out of my seat laughing. It remains my favorite comedy to this day. I must have seen it 2 dozen times by now.
I’m about six and half minutes in and have already burst into two loud “HA!!”s of incredulous laughter. Subscribed.
First time to the channel, and I found the subject and discussion fascinating and provocative. Spot on on most all points, some others omitted for snub talk would have been drinking buddies Burton and O'Toole with 15 competitive Oscar nods between them, with ZERO win. And one glaring pain in the back of my teeth for 25 years now from 70th Oscar Ceremony...Helen Hunt's abysmal Best Actress honor for "As Good As It Gets"...horrible. I look forward to learning more on your channel. Cheers
One major snub was in 1977, Lynne Frederick for Voyage of the Damned. Lee Grant (who played Lynne’s mother in the film) got the nomination instead. However, Beatrice Straight won that year for The Network.
Lynne wasn’t nominated because she wasn’t as known as Lee Grant. Grant also confirmed in her book that the only reason she got nominated was because she shaved her head on screen in the film.
As good as Lee Grants performance was, it has no substance without Lynne’s performance. Highly recommend you see Voyage if you haven’t seen it already. Lynne Frederick was magnificent in the film!!!
How did I just now find you?? THANK YOU for mentioning Mike Leigh’s Secrets and Lies!
You’re hilarious and drop dead gorgeous!! Thank you!
Brilliant, as always! ❤
Ahhh Secrets and Lies! Such a good one! Thank you for calling attention to it. I was also a fan of Rosie Perez and Fearless.
I hate to correct but Hamilton was not nominated for Wizard of Oz. We all know we she should’ve been nominated
I would love for Izzy Custodio from Be Kind Rewind to be a guest on the pod because she goes in depth on the politics of the Oscars, specifically for the Best Actress and Best Supporting Actress categories. They’re always playing in our faces 😤
What a genius combo! I love Be Kind Rewind's video essays, and I bet the mutual language of Oscar's trivia that Louis and Izzy share would create a dynamic conversation
I love your list but where the fuck is Michelle Pfeiffer for White Oleander?
This is the first of your vids I've ever seen. I think I love you.
Why is it NOW I discover your channel? Where have you been!? I love you!!
Margaret Hamilton was NOT nominated for The Wizard of Oz.
Some pretty good choices, especially Joan Cusack. Here are some of mine, I know it's a long list, but my list was longer and I had to whittle it down to this. And I know, the majority is 80s and 90s, but hey, I'm an 80s and 90s kid
1947 Kathleen Byron - Black Narcissus
1954 Mercedes McCambridge - Johnny Guitar
1955 Angela Lansbury - The Court Jester
1983 Melinda Dillon - A Christmas Story
1985 Any of the female cast from Clue
1989 Laura San Giacomo - sex, lies, and videotape
1990 Glenn Close - Reversal of Fortune
1991 Joanna Cassidy - Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead
1995 Jennifer Elise Cox - The Brady Bunch Movie
1996 Drew Barrymore - Scream
1996 Pam Ferris - Matilda
1999 Sigourney Weaver - Galaxy Quest
2000 Eartha Kitt - The Emperor's New Groove
2005 Glenn Close - The Chumscrubber
2011 Shirley MacLaine - Bernie
2014 Suzanne Clement - Mommy
2017 Lois Smith - Marjorie Prime
If there were a Really Good Campy and Spoof Movie awards, Don’t Tell Mom the Babysitter’s Dead and Galaxy Quest would be in it
I haven't watched many of your videos, but I strongly agreed with you about The English Patient and Ordinary People, two of my all-time favorite films, both masterpieces.
Love your informed appreciation of great unsung actresses. Dame Edith in Earnest…YES!!! Joan Cusack…YES!!! The Landlord…YES!!! Grant has one of my favorite lines of all time: “NAACP! N****rs aren’t always colored people!” Thelma Ritter…YES!!! Tomlin = epic. A little known standup line as Edith Ann: “If you take a goldfish out of the bowl, he will do a dance for you. But he will not do it for very long.” Watched (but didn’t speak to) Carolyn Jones as she ordered a U-Haul in Hollywood just before I dropped off my own. To me she’ll always be Invasion of the Body Snatchers. What about Grahame’s Ado Annie? Marvelously weird. Shook Lansbury’s hand backstage during the Sweeny L.A. run. She couldn’t have been less impressed, but I still love her. Saw her in the 1968 Mame tour. Yes, I’m that old. Her cold-hearted bitch in The Harvey Girls is one of my faves.
You are so right about Lee Grant. She should have won for The Landlord. The scene with Pearl Bailey where she drunkenly puts a hamhock in her purse had me howling. Missed opportunity by the Academy because she is so much better than Helen Hayes in Airport.
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Having never seen this channel before, the thumbnail had me thinking “who’s that actor and why’d they snub him” lol
You are so right about 'The Landlord'. Criminally underseen. And Lee Grant fought for that role as the Mother, though she was years too young, because she knew she could nail the character.
Oh my this is so much fun. Makes me want to see movies again.
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What'd you call me?!
I went back and watched “a haa-aand baa-aa-aag” at least six times until my stomach hurt from laughing.
I NEED THIS ON A SHIRT!!!🤣🤣🤣
Ahhh hahah not Anna Paqin being 2years old! hahahaha
"A handbag!" I LOVE this version of Earnest made by a son of WWI Prime Minister Herbert Asquith. Thank you for shouting out that film.
I'd love to know who was long-listed each year, I'm guessing some of these people might have been long-listed.
Oh man, YES...YES YES YES...especially Joan Cusack! AFV is my most favorite movie...I cannot ever get enough of it. And Dame Edith and Thelma are just smashing in anything they did. Love them!
Great video. One correction... Margaret Hamilton was, unfortunately, not Oscar nominated for The Wizard of Oz.