This is a great move by Mopar. Bolt on lift that can assure a great fit and articulation with the most used tire sizes on Jeeps. 35's Using high quality Fox shocks and allowing warranty. Unless you need like a niche rock crawler or something this suspension is great for 95% of Jeep owners who explore, overland, commute, trail ride.
I did this lift today by myself. Took all day and I'm not completely finished. I stripped one of the sway bar links and one of the bottom shock mount bolts. Probably my fault to be honest. Those front bump stop extensions are incredibly difficult to install. I used a clamp to hold the bump stop extensions down while I tightened the nut down. Don't expect to not run into some problems while installing this lift
It may seem a bit unfair for the tools you've listed for requirement but you ended up using impact wrenches and other additional tools and equipment. Many of us average customers just don't have the luxury or even garages. But no harm in done, it was a great video and thanks for sharing.
I installed this lift this weekend. It’s possible in a garage by yourself, but I would just pay the dealership to do it. I measured the height of the fenders and midline before and after. Total increase in height was over 4”. That’s before tires.
Couple of things: - If you're installing this on a Jeep that's been driven up north for a few years and has some corrosion, some of these bolts are a bitch to break. - The top bolt on the driver's side upper control arm shield is a bastard to take off, and even worse to put back in. - The lower rear shock mounts are not in a perfectly designed position, and again, if you've driven the jeep for a few years, there's a good chance one or both of them are bashed in. - The steering wheel was 30 degrees off at the end of the job. Job schedule: 2 experienced technicians with a lift, jack stands, and ALL necessary tools = 6 hour job. Good Luck!
Great video. A couple of statements that were inaccurate, but overall great job. You really should comment on the front springs you installed wrong. Check the Mopar instructions and you will see the red on the left and blue on the right. This is indicated by the serial numbers on the diagram in the instructions which correspond to the numbers on each spring. If folks follow your instruction, they will be doing it wrong, and the result will be a difference in the height of the vehicle of 1/2" from the DS to PS.
Excellent video! I have this lift on my Rubicon and it drives/handles and rides superbly. I was expecting the ride to be fairly stiff, but it is not. It rides very smooth but still handles well. I highly recommend this lift.
I have that same JL, lift and have 35in tires. Had to do a little work on my front bumpers, but I love the Jeep, the lift and tires. Have just had it 2 weeks, so far so good. Looks great.
@@ShockSurplus Yep. Doing a lift with big meats underneath and lower gears, is kinda what a 2 door Rubi is all about. The new model just invites this, as the new stock shafts and chassis is so nicely beefed up over that of my previous JK:) Now I just need Edlebrock to get the blower on the market and it's pretty much set. The Rubicon is like a Corvette, BMW or Harley. The aftermarket add-ons and hop-ups just goes on for ever. Keeping your Wrangler stock. Is like making your model girlfriend keep all her clothes on. Very pretty, capable and nice, but you know that there's so much more fun to be had if you tinker underneath;)
Do yourself a favour. Get one of these two kits instead. I run the Evo kit and a friend of mine run the Icon. While the Evo is more expensive than the Mopar kit, it's no much better it's not even funny. www.northridge4x4.com/part/suspension-package-deals/3012k-evo-manufacturing-2-5in-enforcer-overland-lift-kit-w-king-shocks-stage-1-4 www.northridge4x4.com/part/2-5in-lifts/k22013-icon-vehicle-dynamics-2-5in-stage-3-suspension-system
You said the Rubicon can fit 35's with this lift with some trimming. The 2018 JL Rubicon can actually fit 35's with the stock suspension and NO trimming, due to the stock hi-line fenders (which will also be an option on the other Wranglers in April). With the 2" Mopar lift, you can easily fit 37's on the Rubicon, without trimming.
I did state in the video that you can run 35's with the lift, and you can run 37's with some minor trimming, and that only depends on the backspacing of the wheel.
I know. And I more accurately stated that, because the JL Rubicons have highline fenders standard, you can run 35s on the stock suspension with no rubbing and no need for trimming, and 37s with the Mopar 2" lift with no rubbing or need for trimming.
Nice video. Just would like to point out that around 3:02 you refer to the axle disconnect as being vacuum actuated and it is in fact electric not vacuum.
Hi I have a 2 “ Mopar lift with fox shocks so far I have had it for one year so far so good, people always ask me about the Rubicon they think it’s a3 1/2 inch lift and always get compliments for the 2016 Rubicon
If i go with this Mopar/fox suspension lift kit on my 2019 JLU Sahara with 2019 OEM Rubicon's wheels and tires( BfGoodrich 33's KO2), what would be the differences on the road? Will it run smoother or harder with this kit ?? Sorry for my english, i'm a french canadian :)
I have a Sahara and I have 35x12.50xR18s w/o the lift. would I go offroading yet? nah, just very light. but yeah no trimming on a rubicons neither unless you have 40s lol
Hey man, thanks for posting this. Crazy question, what is the HEIGHT of the rig with the lift and whatever size tires are on that? I'm trying to figure out if it'll fit in my friggin garage. Thanks a bunch!
Those front bump stops.... at some point your not just holding them by hand to tight with the ratchet, I’ve tried rubber strap wrench and large pliers..... how the heck did y’all get the tight??
So you did not loosen the front upper control arms and track bar right? And you take out only front lower control arms? And this way you can lower the axle no problem right?
Rear upper and lower control arms and rear track bar are not loosen right? You only take out rear sway bar and rear shocks right? This way you can lower the rear axle and put rear coil Spring and shocks and sway bar no problem right?
Thought of showing everything. GOOD. DOES THE MOPAR 2" Lift come with shocks/ springs? Would you consider using shock boots with silicone to waterproof them?
Curious if you guys noticed a bow in the spring on the front drivers side. I have seen this on several jeeps with this install including mine and it looks like in your shots you have the same issue. I'm curious if you guys resolved this issue. With such a definitive curve I'm afraid the spring will pop out or come in contact with the bump stop. I noticed that everyone has installed the front coil spring retainers with the flat piece facing out towards the wheel. The instructions state the flat side should be facing inboard, which I assume means away from the wheel. I'm curious if this is causing the bow.
www.cjponyparts.com/mopar-suspension-lift-kit-2-with-coil-springs-fox-shocks-front-lower-control-arms-4-door-3-6l-jeep-wrangler-jl-2018/p/77072395/ Here is the link for the lift!
From ourselves :) >> www.cjponyparts.com/mopar-suspension-lift-kit-2-with-coil-springs-fox-shocks-front-lower-control-arms-4-door-3-6l-jeep-wrangler-jl-2018-2019/p/77072395/
So I have purchased the kit from the dealer and asked them to install it. The rear track bar caused the rear axle to shift to the right. They said an adjustable track bar is required. Did anyone face this problem?! Please help
qkhalili The stock track bar is solid so when you install a lift it will pull the axle off center. You can get a decent adjustable track bar for a few hundred dollars to re-center the axle. I would install front and rear. Check Amazon for Rancho adjustable track bars for the JL. This is definitely something that should have been put out there for all. Good luck
CJ Off-Road I have 35 with no lift on sport. Took out the fender extensions and I have minor rubbing. So I also wiped my ass with that statement. I do plan on doing a lift in the near future.
For that much of money you pay for the Jeep from the dealer, factory should include all of this lift kit suspension in that price. Specially what you pay for rubicon, now Jeep owner have pay more money. What a rip off.
The Rubicon has larger/stroger/wider Dana axles/housings, but things like sway bar links, tie rods, and other bits and pieces should be the same. The Rubicon also has a different transfer case and shocks, and probably different spring rates. The lift kit is the same for Rubicons and non-Rubicons, including springs and shocks, so that should tell you they are not too different, overall.
yes but there is no advantage to buying a rubicon if you plan on going to a 40 inch tire other than the 4:1 transfer case its a little lower ratio than the sport and sahara but not worth the extra $$
This is a great move by Mopar. Bolt on lift that can assure a great fit and articulation with the most used tire sizes on Jeeps. 35's Using high quality Fox shocks and allowing warranty. Unless you need like a niche rock crawler or something this suspension is great for 95% of Jeep owners who explore, overland, commute, trail ride.
I did this lift today by myself. Took all day and I'm not completely finished. I stripped one of the sway bar links and one of the bottom shock mount bolts. Probably my fault to be honest.
Those front bump stop extensions are incredibly difficult to install. I used a clamp to hold the bump stop extensions down while I tightened the nut down.
Don't expect to not run into some problems while installing this lift
It may seem a bit unfair for the tools you've listed for requirement but you ended up using impact wrenches and other additional tools and equipment. Many of us average customers just don't have the luxury or even garages. But no harm in done, it was a great video and thanks for sharing.
I installed this lift this weekend. It’s possible in a garage by yourself, but I would just pay the dealership to do it. I measured the height of the fenders and midline before and after. Total increase in height was over 4”. That’s before tires.
Couple of things:
- If you're installing this on a Jeep that's been driven up north for a few years and has some corrosion, some of these bolts are a bitch to break.
- The top bolt on the driver's side upper control arm shield is a bastard to take off, and even worse to put back in.
- The lower rear shock mounts are not in a perfectly designed position, and again, if you've driven the jeep for a few years, there's a good chance one or both of them are bashed in.
- The steering wheel was 30 degrees off at the end of the job.
Job schedule: 2 experienced technicians with a lift, jack stands, and ALL necessary tools = 6 hour job.
Good Luck!
Great video. A couple of statements that were inaccurate, but overall great job. You really should comment on the front springs you installed wrong. Check the Mopar instructions and you will see the red on the left and blue on the right. This is indicated by the serial numbers on the diagram in the instructions which correspond to the numbers on each spring. If folks follow your instruction, they will be doing it wrong, and the result will be a difference in the height of the vehicle of 1/2" from the DS to PS.
Excellent video! I have this lift on my Rubicon and it drives/handles and rides superbly. I was expecting the ride to be fairly stiff, but it is not. It rides very smooth but still handles well. I highly recommend this lift.
Principal Skinr can you run the Rubicon wheels with 35s on this lift without spacers?
Thanks for the compliment! This lift handles extremely well!
I have that same JL, lift and have 35in tires. Had to do a little work on my front bumpers, but I love the Jeep, the lift and tires. Have just had it 2 weeks, so far so good. Looks great.
Hell yeah! Thanks so much! Make sure you subscribe and check out our other JL videos, we have done a ton with this Jeep
A 2 inch lift, will fit 37 with no trimming on a Rubi. It does on mine. You need a bit of fender trimming for 40's.
Correct!
dang, going big right out the gate
@@ShockSurplus
Yep. Doing a lift with big meats underneath and lower gears, is kinda what a 2 door Rubi is all about. The new model just invites this, as the new stock shafts and chassis is so nicely beefed up over that of my previous JK:)
Now I just need Edlebrock to get the blower on the market and it's pretty much set.
The Rubicon is like a Corvette, BMW or Harley. The aftermarket add-ons and hop-ups just goes on for ever.
Keeping your Wrangler stock. Is like making your model girlfriend keep all her clothes on. Very pretty, capable and nice, but you know that there's so much more fun to be had if you tinker underneath;)
Pretty sure this is what I'm gonna go with when I get my JL. Perfect stance. Still very usable for every day stuff. Love it!
Thanks for watching!
Do yourself a favour. Get one of these two kits instead. I run the Evo kit and a friend of mine run the Icon. While the Evo is more expensive than the Mopar kit, it's no much better it's not even funny.
www.northridge4x4.com/part/suspension-package-deals/3012k-evo-manufacturing-2-5in-enforcer-overland-lift-kit-w-king-shocks-stage-1-4
www.northridge4x4.com/part/2-5in-lifts/k22013-icon-vehicle-dynamics-2-5in-stage-3-suspension-system
Nice looking lift. Love that it has the Fox Shocks.
Yeah the fox shocks are a nice feature!
You said the Rubicon can fit 35's with this lift with some trimming. The 2018 JL Rubicon can actually fit 35's with the stock suspension and NO trimming, due to the stock hi-line fenders (which will also be an option on the other Wranglers in April). With the 2" Mopar lift, you can easily fit 37's on the Rubicon, without trimming.
Michael Corbin I hear you can even put 37’s on the Sahara. They said you couldn’t do extensive off-roading but it will work.
I did state in the video that you can run 35's with the lift, and you can run 37's with some minor trimming, and that only depends on the backspacing of the wheel.
I know. And I more accurately stated that, because the JL Rubicons have highline fenders standard, you can run 35s on the stock suspension with no rubbing and no need for trimming, and 37s with the Mopar 2" lift with no rubbing or need for trimming.
Matt Keep up the Great work
Thanks Brett!
Nice video. Just would like to point out that around 3:02 you refer to the axle disconnect as being vacuum actuated and it is in fact electric not vacuum.
Good point, i guess we're just used to the YJ back when which had the vacuum disconnect..
Hi I have a 2 “ Mopar lift with fox shocks so far I have had it for one year so far so good, people always ask me about the Rubicon they think it’s a3 1/2 inch lift and always get compliments for the 2016 Rubicon
What size tires do you have with a 2” lift?
Why did you skip loosening all control arms? Do you feel it’s unnecessary?
Thanks for the video. It was definitely helpful in my install. 👍
Thanks for watching!
Great video.
How long did the install take?
It only took about 4 hours!
Can you list the specific tire size shown on the Jeep after the install?
this was a 33x12.5 fuel gripper at
it looks like you could've fit 35s.
Great video. As far as reinstalling the bolts, does locktite need to be used and do they have to be tightened to a specific torque?
The bolts should be torqued down to factory specs, most of the nuts are mechanical locking nuts, so they are good to go.
Noticed that the Mopar parts didn't have grease fittings
If i go with this Mopar/fox suspension lift kit on my 2019 JLU Sahara with 2019 OEM Rubicon's wheels and tires( BfGoodrich 33's KO2), what would be the differences on the road? Will it run smoother or harder with this kit ?? Sorry for my english, i'm a french canadian :)
What size tires are those? Looks great with that lift.
They are about a 33 inch tire. We plan on running a 35 inch tire here shortly!
CJ Off-Road Awesome. Thanks!
Great video I plan on installing this on my new JL. What size rim did you guys use ?
We used a 33" Tire however we plan on running a 35. We are using a 17" Fuel Trophy Wheel!
I have a Sahara and I have 35x12.50xR18s w/o the lift. would I go offroading yet? nah, just very light. but yeah no trimming on a rubicons neither unless you have 40s lol
Hey man, thanks for posting this. Crazy question, what is the HEIGHT of the rig with the lift and whatever size tires are on that? I'm trying to figure out if it'll fit in my friggin garage.
Thanks a bunch!
Those front bump stops.... at some point your not just holding them by hand to tight with the ratchet, I’ve tried rubber strap wrench and large pliers..... how the heck did y’all get the tight??
Put in vise first and thread nut onto stud before installing on vehicle.Large pliers will only be needed for last turn then.
This is gonna be a pain in the ass for me in parking lot and only 1 jack stand ugh
Did you notice any bowing in the springs after install?
None at all
So you did not loosen the front upper control arms and track bar right? And you take out only front lower control arms? And this way you can lower the axle no problem right?
what is the size of the tires??? And with the molar 2" lift, what's the overall height of the jeep???
Hi whats up? I bought my jeep used with mopar lift kit on it.. my question is am planning to upgrade to 3.5 lift..do i need to change the shock too?
Rear upper and lower control arms and rear track bar are not loosen right? You only take out rear sway bar and rear shocks right? This way you can lower the rear axle and put rear coil Spring and shocks and sway bar no problem right?
Thought of showing everything.
GOOD.
DOES THE MOPAR 2" Lift come with shocks/ springs?
Would you consider using shock boots with silicone to waterproof them?
The kit does come with shocks and springs, i wouldn't recommend any silicone to waterproof them.
Shock ,"BOOTS?"
Can you put 35s on this lift with no issues/rubbing? I have a 2020 2.0 Willys
Excellent!
Should you tighten sway bar links on ground or air?
Sway bar links don't matter as much as the top bolt has room to rotate
So I cannot fit 35’s on my sport jlu with this kit?
I just put mine in and thinkthe ride quality severely suffered im looking at track bar brackets but overall im not impressed
has it smoothed out since then?
How did you remove the lower control arms bolts(upper and lower) ?? I GM can’t get them to even rotate... I’m stuck... any advise would be great!
id like to do this i my brand new 2dr. What size tires are those on this video?
Curious if you guys noticed a bow in the spring on the front drivers side. I have seen this on several jeeps with this install including mine and it looks like in your shots you have the same issue. I'm curious if you guys resolved this issue. With such a definitive curve I'm afraid the spring will pop out or come in contact with the bump stop. I noticed that everyone has installed the front coil spring retainers with the flat piece facing out towards the wheel. The instructions state the flat side should be facing inboard, which I assume means away from the wheel. I'm curious if this is causing the bow.
The mopar video states the bow is engineered that way on purpose
Is this the same procedure for the rubicon?
Yes, except you will have to disconnect your factory locker wiring, which is just a simple push tab.
CJ Off-Road thanks! Great channel!
How does it change the on road ride quality?
It actually makes it ride much better than the factory suspension!
What was the cost on this Mopar lift? I heard something like $1,495 plus installation? Also, does the Jeep dealer need to install to keep my warranty?
www.cjponyparts.com/mopar-suspension-lift-kit-2-with-coil-springs-fox-shocks-front-lower-control-arms-4-door-3-6l-jeep-wrangler-jl-2018/p/77072395/
Here is the link for the lift!
great video. sub’d
Are those 285/70/17s?
What size are the tires? Thx
What are the torque specs for all of the JL control arms? I can’t find it anywhere...
190 ft-lbs
Would I need wheel spacers if I used my stock rubicon wheels with 35 inch tires?
yes
So 35s would not work on a JL Sahara Moab with the Mopar lift kit?
yes it would of course!!!
Do you require any exhaust spacer for this lift kit ?
Nope just do everything we did in the video 😎
Do you think mopar is coming out with a 4” inch lift for the jl not sure if i should go for this or wait ?
We're not entirely sure yet, the 2" kit allows you to run 35" tires on a sport or sahara, and up to a 37" on the rubicon.
4" of lift on a JL is a lot more than most people need.
What kind of wheels are those???
Fuel Trophy
Were do you get the lift kit?
From ourselves :) >> www.cjponyparts.com/mopar-suspension-lift-kit-2-with-coil-springs-fox-shocks-front-lower-control-arms-4-door-3-6l-jeep-wrangler-jl-2018-2019/p/77072395/
Feel like the springs were installed wrong. Am I the only one who feels this way?
They're installed properly.
The spring you installed on the LF has a blue label. The blue labeled springs go on the right side.
Anyone know what rims
So I have purchased the kit from the dealer and asked them to install it. The rear track bar caused the rear axle to shift to the right. They said an adjustable track bar is required. Did anyone face this problem?! Please help
qkhalili The stock track bar is solid so when you install a lift it will pull the axle off center. You can get a decent adjustable track bar for a few hundred dollars to re-center the axle. I would install front and rear. Check Amazon for Rancho adjustable track bars for the JL. This is definitely something that should have been put out there for all. Good luck
You never reply to my question. Please reply asap thanks.
Really dude? You can fit a 35 on the rubicon and 33 on sahara with no lift... stopped watching there.
You can fit 35's on a rubicon with no lift, and 33s on a sport/sahara without a lift.
Steve Yost this is where I’m lost I thought you could put 35 on a JLU with a 2 in lift I was going to put it with 37
CJ Off-Road I have 35 with no lift on sport. Took out the fender extensions and I have minor rubbing. So I also wiped my ass with that statement. I do plan on doing a lift in the near future.
For that much of money you pay for the Jeep from the dealer, factory should include all of this lift kit suspension in that price. Specially what you pay for rubicon, now Jeep owner have pay more money. What a rip off.
You could get a Mopar lift installed onto your new JL and the dealer, but not everyone wants a lifted Jeep.
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those wheels look too small for that much lift.
Don't worry we fixed that :)
Is it true Rubicon has beefier parts underneath vs. sport and Sahara?
The Rubicon has larger/stroger/wider Dana axles/housings, but things like sway bar links, tie rods, and other bits and pieces should be the same. The Rubicon also has a different transfer case and shocks, and probably different spring rates. The lift kit is the same for Rubicons and non-Rubicons, including springs and shocks, so that should tell you they are not too different, overall.
Great point above, the rubicon does have stronger axles underneath, plus a more robust transfer case.
yes but there is no advantage to buying a rubicon if you plan on going to a 40 inch tire other than the 4:1 transfer case its a little lower ratio than the sport and sahara but not worth the extra $$