Future of Cyprus - Post Cold War DOCUMENTARY
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Our historical documentary series on the history of the post-Cold War continues with a video in which we discuss the future of Cyprus.
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Also G/C rejected the Anan plan because it was calling for the disarmament of the national guard immediately while the Turkish Army would have withdrawn gradually. The people are not morons.
as long as it is part of the deal and will be watched and guaranteed by third parties which was the case, there is no problem with it. If you understood everything carefully, you should admit the fact that both before the start of the conflict and during the conflict, at every step, Greek either started the fight, took advantage of the negotiations, kept breaking the deals and committed crimes against civilians during their retreat. Through out the conflict, third parties like UK were also consistent with their unfair approach. Turkish concern about same things happening again was completely justified. Instead of believing the same parties which kept failing at being honest, a gradual withdrawal was necessary. Watching over the situation and making sure things are returning to normal. The leader who tried to stick to the agreement was removed with a coup. Even today the same intentions are clearly visible. Extreme nationalism became the only ideology on the island. On the other hand, Turkish demand on economic zone conflict is that it should be established according to international law. The Greek approach to Aegean sea is pretty much the same as how China handles the south China sea. The partition should be based on mainland coastlines first, then the islands and their surrounding waters should be carved out. Normally when it is not in conflict with something else, 12 miles is the standard however since here it is in conflict with Turkish zone and it also creates international conflict by turning the aegean sea into another straight completely controlled by Greece. When you increase the coastal waters from 6 to 12 miles the map looks truly fked up. One could violate Greek borders by just swimming a little too far from the beach on the Turkish side. Claiming one third of the east Mediterranean arguing that a tiny island swimming distance from Turkish coast gives Greece the right to do so. Imagine Britain claiming everything in between the Falklands and British coast, it would be retarded and hilarious right? Greece is trying to do pretty much something like that. EU not agreeing with it or Greece claiming X or Y doesn't matter. The LAW matters. We can see the same situation today with Israel. ICJ's authority is completely ignored by the same powers who find Turkey in fault in all these matters. They turn a blind eye to a genocide and they support the whole thing, completely ignoring the international laws. So all those arguments and support for Greece is just based on interests, not on law, fair assessment or something like that. Just pure bs. All they care is that if there is resources in the Mediterranean, they should get it. Shell, BP, Exxon.. all coming in like flies.. Who the fk would expect USA or EU to be fair really? Who gets surprised by seeing them just talk pure bs and support ridiculous Greek claims?? The most dangerous part of it all is that Greece is putting itself in great danger by creating an enemy which it can't win against. Instead of working together, nonstop provoking, trying to bully, seeking confrontation just makes life much more expensive, uncomfortable, unsafe and delays the development Greece needs badly. Turns the country into an American military base, capitulating to USA and EU, billions going to weapons... it is a true mess. After all nothing is achieved because looking at Turkish arms industry, there is no short or mid term possibility for Greece to catch up. Turkey has no intention of invading Greece or its islands.. Obeying the international laws and making fair treaties would be enough for a good relation between these nations and for that west has to stop pretending to be fair and actually be fair.
We all know what the Turkish army does and has done, people just would not want their country to be vulnerable to the most imperialistic force in the region
@@lampross.c.1646 lmao, poor innocent, afraid, peacefull people talking about everyone knowing what Turkish forces does.. was Greece occupied by nazis? Did Greece try to occupy Turkey, hiding behind british ballz?? Who the fk started ww1 and ww2? Yet you are ready to bs about Turkish force.. 🤣🤣 totally biased opinion, pure hate without any logic or truth behind it. It is so typical and pathetic.. imagine kissing German ass and hating Turks 😂
@@antoniosdimoulas3566 for someone who claims the mediterranean as greek and forever greek since ancient greece, it is pretty dumb to bs about turks dreaming about ottoman. In a single comment you made it clear that everything i said is right. You people are extremely nationalistic and you think the entire place belongs to you or something. For turks you are just an annoying neighbor, barking too much, taking power from allies standing behind you. Do you realize how similar your position as a nation to that of israel? Brits made it possible for them and Russians made it possible for you. EU and USA stand behind both of you. Your purpose is to act as a buffer between middle east and europe, be a good puppy and do as you are told. They don't care about you but they need tools like you. You are just the part of this carrot and stick game. If americans want to put pressure on turkey, all of a sudden your bs claims are back on the table. As soon as they get along, nobody cares about your claims again. Same happens with pkk. If they are getting along, nobody cares, but if turks are not behaving as americans want, all of a sudden pkk and kurds are back on the table. If countries in the region were being good neighbors and cooperating, all of them fkers would have to kiss our ass. But instead you are dreaming about greater greece, trying to claim the entire mediterranean, despite the massacres and clear goal of ethnic cleansing on cyprus, claiming that turks are at fault. Saying no to annan plan to unite the island because you still want enosis. You are afraid and creating this whole bs with your maximalist approach. Remember, without your fake allies, you have no chance of making such unfair claims, and you know that they are not reliable. You have been there done that and let's hope you learned your lesson. In 2020s with greece being a nato and eu member turkey has 0 intention of fking around with greece. They got their hands full on the other end of the land. Syria, iraq, iran etc.. however you love to support even terrorists, as long as they are fighting turkey. How the fk are you 24/7 fking with your neighbor and accusing them of doing so? When did turkey support, host and finance a terrorist organisation targetting greece? You are just very very dumb and you are just being used, and abused. Yet still you are dreaming about constantinopol. It is so funny that greeks don't like it being called istanbul, because it is very dumb that they don't know that istanbul is what some greek in anatolia was calling it. Turks came to anatolia and picked the word istanbul from the locals so it is pretty much what your ancestors called it in that region. Please pull your heads out of your butts and try to be fair, respect the international laws and work together. Do not let anyone step over you and do not attempt to do so either. If ww3 kicks off, do not see it as your opportunity to conquer your neighbor and regret it again.
@@NS-Sherlockwell said 👍
CYPRUS IS NOT EVEN IN EUROPE IN THE FIRST HAND. It is an Asian Island. It is closer to Anatolia, which is ASIA. International agreements require that Cyprus cannot be a member in any international organization that both Turkey and Greece are not members. Furthermore, European laws require all candidate states should have solved their border disputes before becoming members. But Cyprus was illegally accepted to EU despite of all of her problems. European hypocrisy made Greeks of Cyprus more powerful, but not more rightful. Stop this hypocrisy. RECOGNIZE TURKISH STATE IN CYPRUS.
1. Cyprus has a European culture (Greek language, Christian religion) and it therefore belongs to Europe, since the distinction between Europe and Asia is actually a political one, and not a geographic one (in geographic terms Europe and Asia are a single continent - Eurasia)
2. The agreement you talk about also says that Cyprus is a unitary state and its territorial integrity should be guarantied. You have been violating that agreement for decades.
3. There is no European law regarding "border disputes". The EU can accept whichever members it wants.
4. Justice is on the side of the native Cypriot people, and not the Turks who illegally occupy our territory.
@@thcyprus 1-Cyprus may have a European culture, excluding Turks, but as long as you ignore the existence of Turks, you will never be the real owners of the island.
So true, Europe is nothing but policy, and the whole world is fed up with imperialist policies of the west.
In any case, geography is also a determining factor, so Cyprus is not entirely European. Geographically, historically and culturally speaking, it is also Asian as much as it is European. That means division and separation. Eventually, sooner or later. You will have to face the facts.
2- Cyprus WAS a unitary state and its territorial integrity WAS to be guarantied. However, Greek attempts to unify with Greece ended that state. Greeks destroyed Cyprus and then stole rights of Turks and wanted to go on as if nothing happened. No longer. Cyprus is not a real state, it is politically supported state.
Being supported by the western imperialism does not mean you are the real owners of the state.
3-Make your study better.
4-Not justice western monsters, your string pullers, your puppeteers are on your side. Justice is something you ignore and never want to remember what.
How was Cyprus able to join EU with this ongoing conflict with northern part of country?
In two EU Summits (Helsinki 1999 and Copenhagen 2002), Turkey refused to negotiate for a solution, ergo EU decided that non-solution was not Cyprus' fault
Easy. The gas reserves And the location of the island is essential to EU. Plus, along with Israel, Greece and Egypt it creates a region of stability in a geopolitical important region. Also it is a portal to EU need for energy from Indiaa.
In 2004 all new comers to the EU joined with a single treaty. That meant all would join or noneone would join. Accession Treaties require unanimous support. Greece said that they couldn't support the treaty unless Cyprus gets a green light, despite the division. Nobody believed that there would be a war in the future in Europe back then so they gave their blessings.
The EU is never consistent. Rules for thee but not for me.
@@Merle1987True, EU can decide who it wants to let in and who it wants to keep out. What's the issue?
10:01 i thought RoC was republic of china i thought for a second how did the chinese conflict have to do with this 😂
Thanks for reminding viewers that the ROC used to exist on the mainland and still continued to exist on Taiwan.😊😊
From West to East, Cyprus shall be free🇨🇾
@21stEidein That sounds like a pipe dream.
@@crose7412that's the exact thing the Palestinians are doing😂
@@21stEidein Dreaming of utopia?
@@crose7412 what are you yapping about?
@@21stEidein I'm trying to figure out which drugs you've taken.
That was a valiant effort to condense a semester long course into half an hour. And also a reminder of the complexity of addressing current affairs. Thanks for trying.
EU double standards.
6:25 This statement about the reason why Greek Cypriots rejected the Annan plan, shows complete lack of understanding the issue and worse. It wouold have taken less than 5 minutes of research to uncover a few impartial resources on the web that state the very valid concerns which are:
- The plan denied refugees the right to recover the property taken from them by force after the turkish invasion
- The plan did not include a settlement regarding the repatriation of Turkish settlers living on Greek Cypriot owned land, a war crime by turkey that is the equivalent of ethnic cleansing, as turkey's plan is to change the demographics of the island by bringing illegal settlers from mainland turkey
- The Anan plan was in clear violation of EU acquis & international law by placing a permanent restriction on Greek Cypriots' rights for freedom of movement and establishment, in their own country no less.
- The Annan plan also perpetuated the presence of the turkish occupying troops allowing them to remain on the island indefinitely and exonerated turkey from any war crimes it committed in Cyprus, required Cypriots to pay for the cost of the turkish invasion (including compensation for property loss),
- But worse of all, the plan would have made Greek Cypriots (78% of the population) a minority in ALL 3 branches of their country’s government and would have resulted in increasing friction and destabilization, exactly what happened in 1963, only 3 years after the original constitution was forced upon the Cypriot people who did not have a chance to vote for it or even have any input
"impartial resources" lol coming from a clearly pro-greek commenter
@@fishook96 You are not making the point you think you are making. Duh, I am Greek-Cypriot. Is there anything in my comment about why Greek Cypriots rejected the Annan Plan that is inaccurate? No impartiality needed, just some critical thinking.
@@NYAndreas You phrased your reasons in quite possibly the most biased way possible
There are totally two different nations in Cyprus. Turkish Cypriots who are Muslims and have it's language (Turkish) and traditions. On the other hand, there is Greek Cypriots who are Orthodox and Greek spoken with their traditions.
There is nothing common between these two nations, Other than living on the same island as North Turkish and South Greeks.
The unification of Cyprus is a Greek ongoing ENOSIS dream. Annexing the island with Greece. There is no room in this plan for Turkish Cypriots even if they have none of the Turkish Cypriots will leave under the greek flag. Therefore Unification of Cyprus is only a dream for the Greeks and the European countries who are using Cyprus as their far east front.
The video and narration seem to be several seconds out of sync in the later part of the video.
Like forced marriage, two people want a separate state, but the United Nations, the European Union, America and England want a single state by force.
Any particular reason for using the pre 1801 Union flag for the British Areas on Cyprus?
It’s the British colonial flag in Cyprus.
What a terribly thorny issue. And one that isn't going to be resolved. And probably won't be for decades to come.
Is the northern land the better area for farming?
yes greeks have mountains, vineyards and europa union
I think south has better and bigger plains for farming but the north has the best beaches
The irony is that the same dictator who is yelling daily about the invasion and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians of Gaza is the same dictator who has occupying troops in 3 countries. 1. Iraq 2. Syria 3. Cyprus
Typical behavior. China’s president also criticized Israel but he’s committing an actual genocide against a group of Muslims in his own country.
The real irony is...wait, there isn't one. You're just a stupid troll, that's what it is
Who are you to judge when Iraq and Syria are collaborating with Turkey on such issues ? Middle east had enough of European lectures
@@canberk9972 occupation is not collaboration. Only people from the middle east have this attitude. I guess we know where you are from.
@@history_repeats8201 takes one to know one
you forgot about the returning of property to original owners and the the ghost city that turkey refuses to give back despite UN resolutions calling for it to do so
@lucafaithfull7397 Is there any reason you didn't name the ghost city? Can you do so now please?
@@crose7412 Famagusta / Ammochostos / Salamina
@@crose7412 Varosha, Famagusta, i was very tired and forgot the name. but it's been illegally held by the Turkish military for 50 years, the residents are not allowed to go back to there homes and property,Turkey had violated Article 1 of Protocol 1 of the European Convention on Human Rights on the right of peaceful enjoyment of one's possessions. this is all despite, The UN Security Council Resolution 550, which states that it "considers attempts to settle any part of Varosha by people other than its inhabitants as inadmissible and calls for the transfer of this area to the administration of the United Nations".
@@lucafaithfull7397 Greeks didnt care about their own resolution back in 1974 when they tried their coup and massacre of the Turkish cypriots, why should the Turks accept anyone else's resolutions? As is the case with multiple UN resolutions so far regarding sanctions on Israel, as long as you're strong enough or have enough backing, you dont care about these resolutions anyways. The model of UN with their Security Council (nuclear powers only) is a hypocrisy in and of itself btw. since these 5 nations are arguably the biggest human rights violators on the globe. It's like 5 different mafia groups condemning petty crime of non-affiliated gangs. In the end Turkiye will prevail in the Mediterranean because of younger demographics, increasing military/naval power and geostrategic importance. Especially since the Ukraine war and the ongoing Cold War in the Pacific, Turkiye's situation became of significance for Russia and China. Plus, there wont be any "EastMed" like projects anymore because risk of real war is a huge downer for big corps. Thats the bitter pill megalomaniac folks in Athens and Nicosia will have to swallow. Time is not your friend, my aging friend.
@@lucafaithfull7397 UN also asked the greeks to accept the 2004 plan but they didn't and they act like nothing happened. Why would Türkiye give the south any concession without taking anything in return?
Isn't Turkey breaking international law by allowing its citizens to settle in occupied Northern Cyprus? I've heard similar arguments about Israeli citizens settling in the West Bank.
Just like using NATO equipment to invade N. Cyprus was a NATO violation but......when it comes to Turkish, Azerbaijani, and Israeli war crimes.........the world does nothing. ✝️🇦🇲
yes but they are moslem and dark skinned, not like those dastardly white Israelis (conveyed with sarcasm) and therefore can't be criticized
The huge difference is, we saved Turkish Cypriots from genocide.
International agreements require that Cyprus cannot be a member in any international organization that both Turkey and Greece are not members. Furthermore, European laws require all candidate states should have solved their border disputes before becoming members. But Cyprus was illegally accepted to EU despite of all of her problems. European hypocrisy made Greeks of Cyprus more powerful, but not more rightful. Do not these unfair policies of the west break international law? Stop this hypocrisy.
@@fatihersayn7877 And now you control and blackmail them, just like Putin controls and brainwashes Crimea. Nice.
You used a very inaccurate British flag at 3:22 for some reason, that flag hasn't been used since 1800. Also, not sure what the vehicle overlayed on the flags is meant to be.
Lots of armchair politicians and generals in this comment section. This outta be good.
I can only pray and hope for peace and security for Turkish and Greek Cypriots 🙏
I hope the prayer finds a way to deal with zero sum games.
No peace with Barbarians,
Who are the barbarians?@@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
Peace without justice is merely tolerating the denial of accountability.
@@eliassolomou980 Kind of like Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, Communist China and Soviet Union,
Since the start of the occupation, Turkey began to forcefully settle Turks from Turkey on Cyprus in the former greek areas.
Just imagine if the roles were reversed and Greece were doing this!? Its a form of genocide/ethnic cleansing-- something Turks excell at I suppose.
12:55 Thank you for explicitly mentioning the demographic elephant in the room: The settlers. In the occupied zone, the settler population is currently believed to outnumber the locals. This is quite significant for an EU member state. I think the only somewhat comparable situation elsewhere in the EU would be the Russian settler population residing in Latvia and Estonia. Under EU pressure, these settler populations are gradually disappearing as their descendants either acquire citizenship or leave.
To be clear: The Turkish settlers and their children are NOT Cypriots! They are ineligible for Cypriot citizenship (and hence EU citizenship), because their presence on the island is a violation of the Geneva Convention. Only the pre-invasion population and their direct descendants are eligible for Cypriot (and EU) citizenship. The rest are foreigners.
Having a fictional citizenship in the puppet state created by Turkey is completely null & void. Neither the UN nor the EU recognizes such fake citizenships. Anyone wishing to obtain citizenship in Cyprus will need to apply in the normal way, like in any other country.
Should be given back to Greece. Same with Constantinople.
not happening sorry
@@hussainalharbi2448 I said it should, doesnt mean it would.
@@madcat789 it shouldn’t turkey owns it and cope harder
@@hussainalharbi2448 if the Jews can proclaim their ancient land after two thousand something years, the Greeks can do the same for the islands that are Greek.
20 million people live in Istanbul. If we give Istanbul to Greece you will be a minority in your own country.
How could you omit the 1963 "Bloody Christmas" 👉👉"During EOKA's terror campaign of the 1963 Christmas season, 374 Turkish Cypriots were killed, 109 Turkish villages were forced to evacuate, over 2,500 Turkish houses were severely damaged or demolished, and between 25,000 and 30,000 Turkish Cypriots became refugees, according to a U.N. report released on Sep. 10, 1964."
The collective West has no idea what happened to the Turks in Cyprus and you obviously don't know either.
It's called "Peace Operation in Cyprus" Here 👇👇
On July 20, 1974, Ecevit announced the start of the operation, which he said would "have a great contribution to mankind and peace."
The Turkish operation prevented the "annexation" of Cyprus and provided protection to Turkish Cypriots who had suffered for years at the hands of the radical Greek Cypriots.
Turkish paratroopers were deployed at various points of the Island, while fighter jets flew low over the land. Following the UN Security Council's (UNSC) call, Turkey stopped its operation and agreed on a ceasefire with Greece.
Nikos Sampson stepped down as president at the end of the fighting, with a total of 57 Turkish soldiers being martyred and another 184 wounded at the end of the three-day campaign. The junta government of Greece collapsed following the peace operation."
I pity turkish cypriots who became vassels to mainlanders
At least they are divided properly by ethnic.
@@doncorleone1553 They are a minoriry. We must give to each minoriry a country;
@doncorleone1553 The division was pointless , cruel, only serves turkey
This is comparable to what russia did to east ukraine
@@christianweibrecht6555 Not just comparable, this is exactly what Russia does in east Ukraine. Hence why Turkey refuses to sanction them.
It is certainly better than being killed and ruled by the Eoka terrorist organisation.
Is it me or is Turkey a constant stumbling block in any situation in the Mediterranean? Outdated NATO member, show them the door....
Please express your ideas at next nato summit
Awww did Türkiye hurt your pathetic feelings?
The feeling of regret when you see Russian ships in the Mediterranean 😐😐
@@oguzhan9424 Look who's talking! Bloody hipocrite.
@@bombacmulayim2987 If only that Turkenberg weren't around, defending his bf at every turn... maybe then it would be possible!
Because Turkey still has these reminisce of Glorious Ottoman past whilst the other have moved on.
The Cyprus problem can be solved if you name Cyprus what it is now. The United States of the Mediterranean Cyprus. You have two states one country. North Cyprus and South Cyprus is one country. All the refugees are going to choose what they want to do with their properties. 4 options. 1st going back to use it. 2nd exchange it. 3rd option sell it. 4rth option rent it for money. The green line will be the border of the states. The states will have UN security forces and no foreign military forces except for the British military bases. The president is gonna be elected the way the USA presidents are elected no nationalities involved.
Name it United States of the Mediterranean Cyprus. 2 states 1 country 1 nation. The president will be elected like the president of the USA. European Union country for all Cypriots. No foreign armies except for the United Nations and the British Bases.
blah blah blah....
Greek people's greed make things this way in Cyprus, they wanted whole island to unite with mainland Greece, we Turks accepted unified Cyprus State with Greek president and Turkish prime minister but they always wanted more and more. We had to protect our people from slaughters of EOKA, there's nothing we did wrong in Cyprus situation. We protected our people.
The north part of Cyprus is occupied by Turkey since 1974
MILITARY OCCUPATION
Cyprus is a full member of EU since 2004
IF ,
even the 1/3 from those measures we all follow against Russia, supporting Ukraine on its struggle for freedom, was taken and against Turkey,supporting Cyprus on it's similar struggle, the island could of been free.
FREE
No, the north of the island will probably belong to the Turks for decades. You wanted to destroy us from the island, so we defended our own territory. If you try again, we will not hesitate to come from Anatolia.
Funny fact is that your president Erdogan accuses israel for doing to Palestinians what Turkey is doing in Cyprus! Turkish logic: mine is mine and yours are mine!
The Greek side is allowing Muslims from Africa and the Middle East to settle in the south of the island. Therefore, the problem will be solved once a muslim majority is established.
At 20:35 your Israel flag looks a bit off
why are you presenting a matter of a 90% majority and a 105 minority at that time as a 50/50 problem?
Turkey, for its part, supported the recapture of Artsakh from Azerbaijan with the justification that according to the United Nations, Artsakh belongs to Azerbaijan. We now expect it to do the same with Northern Cyprus and return it to its owners, i.e. the republic of Cyprus 😉
Why 800.000 people has the right to have a country but the other 300.000 people have to live under some fascist regime. You greeks were the one who started gathering soldiers and attack with them at the first place! I am an atheist Türk and I am disgusted by the Hypocrisy of the West.
Then let him recognise the north in Greece, since they support the Armenian occupation, let him support it. How does your brain work?
"Diversity is our strength" in action
This is literally an example of ethnic cleansing
@@thematthew761Bro not even the Turkish Cypriots want mainland Turkey interfering too much. This is not ethnic cleansing. It's a attempted assimilation. Any actual attempt on cleansing would trigger a war so Nato would never abide it since greek and Turkey are both part of Nato.
The Turks kicked out all the Greeks from Northern Cyprus and if Turkey struck first, NATO would have no problem siding with Greece@@razinghavoc7419
So who is going to pay the catering bill for the 50 years of failed negotiations?
full of biased and half-truths.
The EU and the US can recognize Kosovo as a sovereign state but can't do the same for TRNC, Why the double standards?
You need to research more
It's not turkish republic of northern cyprus mate, it's occupied area by the turkish army
The video explains that the TRNC is only recognized by Turkey. Basically de facto recognized.
It depends from which viewpoint you are interpreting. In my opinion Cyprus is just a province of Türkiye and the Greeks are the occupiers, and the only one willing to kill humans to push down their will.
In 1963, Makarios and EOKa threw Turks from the government and since then there is a disproportionate positions between parties.
No…TC under the direction of Turkey withdrew from the government and TMT forced TC in enclaves as the first step towards partition. TMT and MIT were bombing Turkish buildings to provoke TC to attack GC…..the sad part is GC took the bait in a very idiotic way.
No turks were thrown out they left on their own accord ( i think from instructions form turkey) read the history properly
@@jonchrys the life is a fairy tale
if greek cypriotes can join EU why cant turkish cypriotes be OBSERVERS in a turkic union? not even member
They can and they will. The world has had it enough with the bullshit western rhetoric
The north part of Cyprus, is occupied by Turkey since 1974
MILITARY OCCUPATION
The majority of all those are still our stolen lands and properties
Didn't you know that..?
Broww ..
There can be only one solution to entire Cyprus situation and that is a two state solution.
If Western nations were not so hypocrate of refusing to recognize there are Turks living on that island that has been tried to be exterminated many times by the Greeks and recognized their rights to live.. Now we wouldn't be asking these questions.
You failed to mention that Greek Cypriots are the 82% of the population, and also the native people of the island who have inhabited the whole Cyprus for 1000s of years. The Turkish Cypriots are a small minority of 18% which was created in our island during Ottoman rule (Ottomans conquered Cyprus centuries after they conquered the Balkans) and was never the majority in any part of Cyprus, until the 1974 Turkish invasion and ethnic cleansing. The solution is for the liberation of Cyprus from foreign occupation, and the Turkish Cypriot minority can be equal Cypriot and EU citizens with full minority rights. So called "solutions" which essentially legalize the stealing of our lands by the Turks and on top of that equate the 82% native population with the 18% of Turks, mostly Anatolian Settlers by now, will obviously be rejected by the native Cypriot people, since such "solutions" do not solve our problem, which is the stealing of our lands by the Turks.
Why don't the AngloAmericans propose such "solutions" for Ukraine? Give to the Russian minority (also 18%) the 30% of Ukraine as their own federal state, and offer to them 50% power share. At least the Russians are actually the majority in most Eastern regions of Ukraine, unlike the Turks who were never the majority in the north part of Cyprus until the ethnic cleansing of 1974.
You also forgot the mention that greeks started to kill innocent turks even babies and childs and teied to unite with greece so turkey used its right to intervene.you are lucky that un saved your filthy ass
@@mustafakader5878 The usual Turkish lies to excuse your crimes. Cyprus is our island, an island inhabited by Greeks for over 3000 years, and it is the Turks who keep invading us, killing native people and try to take our lands.
Its not lile white people belong in australia usa! But thats life
Answer: Ukranians fight like heroes. Greeks cry like children.
So much bullshit in just one message. I applaud you, mr. propaganda minister. Even a child sees the gaps in your one sided rhetoric tho.
Belgianise it with a Lusignan descendant as King.
GUYS WE HAVE SAVE CYPRUS
Just visited Greece and Turkey recently and it was interesting seeing the competing propaganda involving Cyprus in both countries. In Greece I saw billboards with “REMEMBER CYPRUS!” printed at the top in both English and Greek with a map of Cyprus with blood covering northern Cyprus. Meanwhile at an airport in Turkey I saw a plane on static display with a sign indicating it had dropped paratroopers into Cyprus for the island’s “liberation”. Both Greeks and Turks are amazing, friendly people, I wish their governments could stop hating each other.
My friend idk where are you from, I'm Greek, living in Greece. Turkey is a nation with rich history, but a richer catalog of crimes. Crimes that were never paid (I don't mean paid "in blood" or anything, I'm not an extremist neither a fascist). But turkey has brought only pain to Greeks, Greeks and turks have lived for hundreds of years side by side, and IT'S ALWAYS TURKEY, committing the atrocities. I really hope the EU, the Greek or the Turkish government could find some way to solve all the problems. But it's something that's been raging on for decades and there seems to be no solution whatsoever, even now in the 21st century.
@@custer13 That´s quite the commentary keeping in mind that the Greeks have not been too kind to turks either, it was you who after all started the ethnic cleansings. First the Turks in Greece territories after your independence in 1829, then the thracian turks after the balkan wars, after that the rest of the turks on the islands. If Turks were as awful as you claim, then the centuries we lived together as one would entail your complete erasure as a people, but I see no sign of this, or do you? Add to that that it was you who invaded us in 1919, not the other way around. Add to that again, that the conflict in Cyprus started to EOKA, EOKA-B, bloody christmas and the Greek Junta involving itself heavily in cypriot relationships, if you had not done so, there would be no issue, for the turks didn´t provoke an invasion, you basically invited us. Quick side note as well, before you cry Greek genocide in Turkey, thé Greek cleansings started first, Turkey isn´t the ottoman empire, Atatürk was nominated by Venizelos himself for the Nobel Peace Prize. I have no issues with Greeks, many of my very closest friends are Greek, I have an issue with you for claiming the turks are such horrible creatures and that the Greeks are such victims, cause then oh boy we have not forgotten what you did in Epirus. We are by no means innocent, nor do we claim it. What is infuriating is, you claiming innocence. You were not.
@@custer13 solution is easy Officially recognize the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and develop diplomatic relations
@@borasahin5117 that solution is easy when you are a simple civilian. The way the minds of the politicians work is something completely different. Also I'm totally against your proposal anyway, but I'm not the one who decides in the first place.
@@custer13I’m a Turk. I’m truely sorry that you slander Türkiye as a Greek who should know history and Turkish people well.
What did Turks do to you other than defending their homeland and lives from you?
Who attacked Turkish Homeland with Britain during WW1? Who destroyed Turkish cities, killed innocent people, raped women? You came all the way from Greece and attacked Turkish Homeland with imperialist powers on your side. What were you expecting, roses? We aren’t going to apologize for defending our homeland.
As for Cyprus, who attacked first? Who breached the independent state of the island? Who wanted to unite with Greece(ENOSIS)? Who massacred Cypriot Turks? EOKA killed Cypriots Turks, for God’s sake. Again, what were you expecting? Would Turkey watch while you guys doing ethnic cleansing?
You, Greeks were the ones who attacked us first, but you play the victim.
If you are afraid of retaliation, just don’t attack people, it’s as simple as that!
And despite everything we, Turks like Greeks, we always welcome Greek tourists with warm smiles. We see you as our neighbours. It is water under the bridge for us. But clearly, Greeks hate us for no reason, no matter how many years passed. They hold grudge.
We, Turks, are so naive. We forget things.
Thank you for showing your true colors, I won’t consider any Greek as a friend any more.
The Baywatch sequence was my favorite part.
Dude, same.
There is no Cyprus problem .... it was solved when the island was divided in 1974! For the first time, Turkish Cypriots were able to step out of their homes without fearing for their lives!
complete rubbish i have turkish cypriots nrighbours & we get along.
Turkey took the chance to grab land throw out 200 000 people from there homes. Turkey promised u an independent state which never happened & never will & on the other hand we have your puppet leader begging the international community for recognition 😮
This may be off-subject for this video, but could you make a video about the 1964 Kremlin coup when Brezhnev deposed Khrushchev.
Turkey will never allow it
The Cyprus problem can be solved if you name Cyprus what it is now. The United States of the Mediterranean Cyprus. You have two states one country. North Cyprus and South Cyprus is one country. All the refugees are going to choose what they want to do with their properties. 4 options. 1st going back to use it. 2nd exchange it. 3rd option sell it. 4rth option rent it for money. The green line will be the border of the states. The states will have UN security forces and no foreign military forces except for the British military bases. The president is gonna be elected the way the USA presidents are elected no nationalities involved.
Why would we want two states because u people are craving it
There will not be recognition for the turkish occupied part of cyprus
@@chrisconstantinou4965 because we need safety and freedom
@@chrisconstantinou4965we need a solution for peace and safety
The solution i suggested is prioritizing the people of Cyprus not national groups because it has to be a viable solution for all Cypriots not only Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots. Nowadays the identity of the population of the Cypriots is multinational and multicultural. We don't need national agendas to block the solution.
Look folks i tell you the way it is.The greek cypriots have lost a big portion of cyprus but are the recognised republic of cyprus who represent Cyprus all over the 🎉world in politics sport and other things . The Turkish cypriots unfortunately are being governed by turkey nobody recognises them except for some turkic countries and does not represent Cyprus in nothing.With all the Russians Israelis andiranians buying property though and with all the money laundring they should start to get abit more prosperous
Turkey will never join the EU, as long as it refuses to acknowledge the Armenian Genocide and the Cyprus question is solved. Forget it. Serbia would be a far easier partner to deal with...
Also, to be completely honest, is really a good idea in the first place? Can the Turks be considered Europeans? Why not Tunisia then? Why not Morocco, Algeria, Syria? To enter the European Union, you have to be a European state in the first place.
well as a turk i hope we never became member of eu. under this laws, (federatistion, emission policies etc) membership only causing more problems for turkey.
turks can be counted as europeans? well please exclude turk european releations for last millenia then see how many pages missing european history.
final answer about your question about armenians, well its certain armenian rebellion exist and its cost them alot. also armenians never held accountable for their war crimes.
if we are clearing bloody history, when greece, romania, ex yugoslavia countries held accountable? when they are compensated siezured turkish propetry and when they apologised about displaced, tortured and murderd turks?
do you think turks accept everything against them and they never ask correct questions? do you think we are totally stupid never demand something similar from other countrys? do you think, greece, romania, and ex yugoslav countries easily accept everything turks demanded?
either you have some malevolance about turk or you are totally a gothamide. which one of you?
I don't want Turkey in the EU. Quite frankly, I don't even want it in NATO anymore.
@@loneprimateif nations and alliances didn’t base their decisions on opportunism alone, it would be a merrier world... it would be so wonderful to merge the meaning of allies and friends. Sadly, we have allies who are as despicable as our enemies, if not more so.
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Who said NATO wants you?
Both will not happen! There has been no so called “Armenian genocide" and there is according to Türkiye no problem with the North Cyprus Turkish Republic. The problem are people like you!
3:22 This British flag went obsolete in 1801 when Ireland joined the UK and had red diagonal stripes added
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Very interesting video. Thanks for this.
The photo on 2:14 is from Azerbaijan, 1990th.
Theres only cyprus and turkmenistani occupation.
Thanks to Turkey all cypriots have been living in peace since 1974. Perhaps Palestine also needs Turkey to ensure their existence in Palestine.
truly an idiotic statement.
@@Nestoras_Zogopoulos only to a Greek but if you are a TC you are considered lucky whose life was saved by 🇹🇷
@@nacirizagolu741 ask the palestinians and the arab world if they are even 1% convinced by erdogans rhetoric. They are not. The turkish state does not truly care in the slightest, not in any real sense of the word.
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Palestinians lived in peace with Ottoman rule. Turks will bring peace to region again. We are better than Anglo-American-Israeli occupiers.
@@fatihersayn7877 Is that what biased, Turkish history books say? Lmao. Stfu.
Really interesting movie. I hope it will be finally settled in the future with benefits for both sides
I believe that the indigenous turkish Cypriots nowadays have regretted the separation. Very few people, other than greeks and turks, know that today the Turkish Cypriots who where far more educated and of European mentality became a minority in their home because of the demographic changes that occurred because of the settlers Turkey systematically sent to the island the first twenty years after the invasion. Turkish Cypriots today are being ruled by the Turkish political and military establishment and the "puppet" rulers which Ankara enforces. As long this is the reality in northern Cyprus I don't hope for a significant change.....
It was the Greek Cypriots who ruined the independent state of the island back in 1960. Between 1963-1974 they killed Turks, destroyed Turkish villages, tried to expell them from the island in order to unite with Greece (ENOSIS).
If Greek military junta supported terrorist group EOKA hadn’t committed such crimes against Turks, Cyprus wouldn’t have been divided in the first place.
So you have no right to blame Turks for it.
Despite that, Turks said yes to the 2004 Annan Plan, but Greeks said no.
The Reality you deny: Greek Cypriots want the island only to themselves. They don‘t want a two state solution, or any other solution. They want the whole island and it‘s not gonna happen.
As a Turkish Cypriot, i really Hope for Peace. But we all don’t want to have the Same past. As turkish cypriot ruled by Turkey, greek cypriots ruled by Greece. I believe that we can peacifully live together . Many Cypriots lives there life Like Europeans. The religion should Not be the problem. As the whole world can able to live together. Also Are we that much educated? What we know about each Other belief or other things? Generally turkish cypriots doesn’t practice there Religion and minds are educated. Only the big countries cannot deal it affacts to both side. We should more Support the Cyprus united. Focus to improve our Country together instead of immigrate or fighting.
@@BanCoru-uz3wk I couldn't agree more . I wish the best for you and Cyprus, hopefully united at last...
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Although NATO is more successful than the Warsaw Pact in providing training, parts and physical infrastructure to its allies, it is insane when you think how much more advanced the United States army is than the armies of other NATO countries.
Cypriot national guard was able to stop turkish advance multiple times with t-34/85.
This happened in 1974. In 1974 United States was completing operational test and evaluation of F-15, US army was fielded TOW missiles and Usaf was fielded Multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles. targeting pods, laser guided bombs, Nuclear supercarriers etc.
It's insane how the world lags behind America.
Oooooor, maybe an island nation with three countries (including the UK) guaranteeing their independence had no reason to believe investing much in a ground army was of any use. We know they were wrong, but hindsight is 20/20.
@@crazeelazee7524 I am not talking about how insufficient the cyprus National Guard is compared to the US army.
I am talking about turkey, which is a NATO country, also ridiculously lags behind america.
@@toothpickvic5091Fair enough
@@toothpickvic5091we always strong that is it,sometimes numbers doesnt mean anything in war.we Turks know that and still taking lands,inviding lands and fighting against strong powers
@@erenyorumyapmayan1245 I am not talking about turks nor greeks are being strong nor weak.
I'm talking about the absurdity of how much more powerful the United States is than the rest of the world.
AS a mainland greek i wish for cyprus to unite and for ALL cypriots to live happy. we are family
I’m turkish cypriot and plz no unification bro
I'm greek cypriot just compensate all the the refugees and give us back varosha and closed the borders no going in to each others casinos
@@michaelhadjimichael4778 Blud do I look like the president why u asking me to give back the only thing I give u is a cent
@@michaelhadjimichael4778 and why u typing this at 1 AM
I'm greek cypriot and I agree and close the border
@@FedoraSW5GZyour English turk not original 😂
Fascinating.
Bottom line it's another conflict where until the 2 peoples decide they want to live together in peace and both are willing to move forward with compromises it's unlikely to be resolved. Given the current level of nationalism in Turkey and the fact that Greek Cyprus has little to gain from any settlement it seems unlikely this will happen any time soon....
He actually mentioned that Southern Cyprus has elected an independent nationalist but no need to mention that, right
Both sides have a nationalist on top with the exact same vote rate and you only mention the Turkish side. Biased much ?
a chamber of commerces
Chambers of Commerce if you're talking about multiple business organizations.
Good job about to video, it was quite enlightning. However, why 800.000 people has the right to have a country but the other 300.000 people have to live under some fascist regime. You greeks were the one who started gathering soldiers and attack with them at the first place! I am an atheist Türk and I am disgusted by the Hypocrisy of the West. Every nation has the right to have their own country!
imagine solving cyprus, palestine, kashmir, korea and taiwan...
oh yeah and karabag and the agean conflict and the unknown one between most eastern three stan- nations..
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In the first 5 minutes of the video, the mass rape and genocide of Turks by Greeks on the island is not mentioned, and it is shown as if Turkey has occupied the island with a “conquest” mentality. First of all, let’s state that Turkey is a guarantor state that guarantees the independence of the Republic of Cyprus as a result of the London and Zurich agreements. In 1974, Nikos Sampson, who aimed and intended to unite with Greece and was also a genocidal maniac, directly disrupted the constitutional order by overthrowing Makarios with the support of the Greek junta government and gave legitimacy to the guarantor states to intervene in the island. In the video, it is mentioned as if Turkey’s excuse for occupying the island was the result of this coup, but it is a humanitarian necessity to intervene in the island due to what could happen if Nikos Sampson, who is referred to as a Turkish butcher, had taken control of the island. Let’s also address another mistake mentioned in the video: today, the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus is an independent state and there is no Turkish occupation on the island. The Blue Homeland doctrine, which is also a cult, was mentioned with a narrative that gives the impression that “Expansionist Turks are thinking of conquering the whole world starting with your faith,” but let’s state that this doctrine is a legitimate defense against Greece’s unilateral occupation of the Aegean islands not mentioned in the Lausanne Treaty and its arming in the Aegean for years, which is contrary to the disarmament of the islands mentioned and not mentioned in Lausanne. In this context, the Blue Homeland is actually a state project, not a government project. This thesis was developed against the fact that the Turks are treated as if they have no 1577 km land border in the Mediterranean with the Greece-Israel alliance
It is true that there is a paranoia of invasion against Turks in the Western world. The reason for this paranoia is undoubtedly due to the fact that the Ottoman Empire ruled over the Western world for years and the wars that Europe lost against the Ottoman Empire. However, Turkey is no longer a world power like the Ottoman Empire or in a helpless state like it was in 1919. In this context, Turkey does not have a desire to completely take over Cyprus, nor can it leave the Turks on the island to the initiative of the Greeks and the Western world.
Yurtta sulh cihanda sulh.
Quite a bit of what you say is correct but you have put your own spin on it.
Yes the invasion was within it's guarantor rights to reinstate the constitution not to remain and bring over 100k settlers to occupy the land and properties of others ( a war crime by the way)
The coup was by the Junta ( a dictatorship) who attempted to assassinate President Makarios then fell following the invasion and the reinstated president Makarios was at the time a very vocal non union with Greece supporter hence why the dictators tried to get rid of him.
The inter communal troubles before 1974 were by both sides and both sides look back now in shame and I believe have learnt from these mistakes. Lets also not forget that a lot of these atrocities were committed by the minority the majority looked on in horror many from both sides can tell you how Greeks saved Turks and Turks saved Greeks from the mobs.
You say the TRNC is not an occupying entity, if you really believe that you should watch some demonstration in the north by genuine Turkish Cypriots who call Turkey an occupier . (if you ask i will give you the links and await your comments on them as i would be interested to hear them)
Turkey has done nothing for the Turkish Cypriots ( again if you want to hear the truth i can send you links not from outsiders but from Turks themselves) example did you know they are entitled to free health care in the south many have even been sent abroad for treatments not available in the south paid by the south .
As for the treaties read them properly first of all. Plus in some areas maybe there has been some military build up but that's due the casus belli and the 150k strong Turkish Aegean Army on the coast and the threats.
Can you give me the date Greece’s unilateral occupation of the Aegean islands? I cannot find it anywhere in the history books all I could find was ancient greek sites on them and their return to the rightful owners after the Ottoman empire fell.( some sarcasm there but i think it's deserved)
The one thing we can agree on is that the Turkish Cypriots need a solution that gives them some added security ( not that they actually need it but to put their minds at rest so we can go forward )
As for blue homeland I get why you maybe be upset but geography is geography only mother earth can change that.
The law regarding territorial waters is clear 12nm everyone is bound by that.
The issue re EEZ is more complicated and neither of us are qualified on that issue simply stating coastline length is irrelevant. I was going to write a lengthy explanation but its too complicated but basically can Turkey be trusted that agreeing anything with it will not cause it to create a president in the future bearing in mind that Turkish logic does not conform to most peoples logic ( not intended as insult )
as for paranoia of invasion against Turks Is there a neighbour you have genuine friendly relations with?
As for Greece between the people there is a love affair it's the politicians who have the issues.
The one thing I ask of you is to stop portraying Turkish and Greek Cypriots as enemies we have more in common than you could ever imagine only a genuine Cypriot can explain that.
23:02 ridiculous map gives Turkey hardly any EEZ, Turkey will never accept it.
What was going on the Israeli flag during the "Blue Homeland" segment?
Israel as other regional countries such as Egypt don't view the neo-ottoman "Blue Homeland" ideology of Turkey as positive for their national interests.
@@Ghanfortbecause we ourselves were once an Ottoman colony.
@@deshaun9473You were not there at the time you said.
@@deshaun9473 colony? no.
@@serkancanates7339 the country that is called Israel was once a colony of the Ottoman Empire.
At last a western video channel mentions Turkish side accepted the UN unification plan and Greek side rejected it.
We Westerners know all too well that Greek Cypriots rejected that plan but also why, unlike you. No suprise though, because your sultans needed to give you the impression that you are the heroes of this story and not the ones that caused this utter humanitarian mess in the 1st place.
Giving up the whole island to Greeks and the EU without getting anything would be a huge mistake, I'm glad they've rejected it.
@@zottirgen Funny that in my notifications list, you're called "Cagdas Ozkan" but in the comment section you're called "zottirgen".
Do you have something to hide, perhaps? Lol. Gotta present yourself as Western as possible in order to sell the MIT's agenda to the unsuspecting and ignorant masses, right?
Gtfo.
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In my view, I think the unification of Cyprus at this point is near to impossible to achieve as there are too many differences not only in terms of politics and ideology but also major differences in demographics, culture, religion and language. This is not like the scenario with the division of East-West Germany or even North-South Korea for example in which at least both sides have populations which are similar in terms of language, culture and religion and that they have hopes that they will reunite one day. And with the scenario of Cyprus has too much irreconcilable differences and adding to the extreme differences in culture and language, I’m sorry to say but I think they should remain separated with Northern Cyprus being recognised as a distinct sovereign country. The only thing left is that whether they would have a peaceful route in which they would negotiate for a deal that would have both Cyprus and Northern Cyprus either have a joint deal between two countries or they could join the EU and have a soft border like what it’s like with the Schengen areas of EU in which people within the area would travel and access freely in between territories while not infringing and interfering each other’s right to exist as sovereign states or a hard border which could be catastrophic.
It's like everyone wants to be one but cant agree on the terms, I would actually say Cypriots on each side are much more similar than people think
The current situation benefits the Greek side. International recognition, EU membership etc while the Turkish side remains unrecognized. Why would the Greeks ever agree to your proposal? The Turkish side would benefit immensely while the Greeks would not at all.
Turks are a minority in cyprus and every single country in this world has minorities. According to your logic if a country has a minority in another country they can simply invade it, ethnically cleanse a part of it from its inhabitants, commit a long list of crimes against humanity, bring illegally settlers to live in these people's houses in order to change the demographics, create a pseudo-state and wait a few decades for the world to recognize it. What you're proposing is extremely dangerous for every single country in this world because minorities exist everywhere.
"right to exist as sovereign states" The north part of Cyprus, just like every other part of Cyprus, was inhabited by a great majority of Greek Cypriots until Turkey invaded Cyprus in 1974, occupied its northern part, ethnically cleansed the majority of its population and replaced the natives with settlers from Turkey. So where does the "right to exist as a sovereign state" come from? The truth is that the Turks have no such right on the land they stole from us, which is why the pseudo state they declared on our territory is legally invalid according to the UN and can never be recognized.
Artsakh at least was an existing autonomous republic and was all Armenian, there's zero ground for Turkey's claim@@thcyprus
There is no Cyprus any more... There is greek state of south cypres and Turkish state of nort Cprus... Future is two state...
In terms of Human Rights; Best that can be hoped for is status quo and the need for England to guarantee anything become a thing of the past. England is no guarantor of peace but rather a guarantor of middle east instability.
No, No, No, Pre 1974 The Turkish speaking Cypriots did not want Turkey imposing on them, they lived happily with their Greek speaking neighbours. Both groups preferred independence from, both Greece or Turkey.
And a rum that says that. I know that there were many uncles who supported the Turkish operation in 74.
Why don't we just given the full independence,
Because the greek side of Cyprus doesn’t want to be a Turkey puppet state
@@TheKing-uu7jn I am really having a hard time not thinking about anything that could fix that is not a crusade,
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Cyprus was invaded. A solid state, recognised by UN, part of EU lost its sovereignity by force. There's nothing to be unified, only the invader to leave the Cypriots alone. When Sadam invaded Kuwait, the whole world made him retreat
Cry about it,greek who little puppet state of europe 🗿
A 'solid state'? Have you been sleeping for the past 100 years! Barely was Cyprus granted independence in 1960 the Greek Cypriots went about usurping the legal powers of the Turkish Cypriots followed in the years leading up to 1974 violently ethnically cleansing the Turkish Cypriots in their illegal quest to unite with Greece. Cyprus is far from a solid state!
Fact that none of the comments notice the ridiciousness of the map at 23:02 is amazing. How is it that people see this nearly fair and internationally acceptable is beyond me.
what is the problem with it.
@@zachhaas1075 I'm guessing primarily the Aegean Sea, but what alternative does OP propose? That the Greek islands become exclaves in Turkish-controlled sea zones? The rules were made for the entire world, not specifically to screw Turkey. France didn't get any special treatment either, the two little British islands off their coast cut deep into their exclusive zone. Islands need control of the sea around them.
You're right, it's not fair and it's not internationally acceptable. According to UN's Law of the Sea, Greek territorial waters should extend even further.
Turkey trying to claim waters in the Agean would be the same as Sweden trying to claim waters in the Norwegian Sea. There's others nations land in between the Agean and Turkey
Reply that goes for all of you: I suggest you guys learn sea boundaries and islands effects on sea control zones in international law with examples. At least a basic understanding will suffice
This is a conflict I've been curious about and studied.
I've come to the conclusion that the status quo simply won't change. The island is partitioned and will probably remain so forever.
Become part of Turkey?
In the long, oft troubled history of the world, diversity has a nearly 100% record of eventually resulting in violence, destruction, and death. But ideological or religious diversity? A 100% record!
Turkish Cypriots showed all their good intentions by saying yes to the Annan plan. Even though the Greeks said no to the peace plan, they were rewarded with the European Union.
We are tired of double standards and hypocrisy. Why are we forcing two people who cannot get along with each other to live together? The only solution on the island of Cyprus is the two-state solution.
The world must stop such pressures and pave the way for a solution. Turkish Cypriots do not deserve this treatment. It is their right to be recognized as a country.
if they don’t live together they won’t see each other and they will believe the lies their government are telling them about the enemy
@tugrulunal3391 Turkish Cypriots are viewed internationally as illegal occupiers rather than having "rights" to be/stay there.
It would set a dangerous precedent that you can just achieve statehood by the means of greater power invading and carving out a country for you. Why not give it to other unrecognized states then?
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Learn your history and come back again! The very reason that you cal natives "occupiers" says enough about your delusional comment!
@@crose7412What an ignorence
Malaysia recently granted Turkish Northern Cyprus oening their trade office as the current Prime Minister is best buddies with the President of Turkiye. I won’t be surprised if one day Malaysia will recognized the state in near future.
Malaysia might need to be careful with silly ideas like that. It’s country north of it that has its eyes on full expansion of old Siam. It’s very dangerous when you start referring to history as the plan for the future. Because everyone has a silly old first edition of history book they are referring too.
Most of the Muslim majority countries are ready to recognize TRNC but the EU & USA threaten them with sanctions.
Bangladesh and Pakistan recognized TRNC then retracted their position after pressure from USA.
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Malaysia has always been a neutral country and has no reason to create trouble for herself
Turkey has no intention of joining eu anymore. Organisation of Turkic States thriving better.
unification under whom? under Turkey? under Russia??...
Among the reasons for the Turks' occupation of the island; Tell us about the massacres committed by the Greeks against the Turkish Cypriots.
You don't get a community as mixed as Cyprus was without generations of cooperation and tolerance. As it is I know many in the south cross to the north for crates of cheap beer and the gambling opportunities, apart from different roadsigns driving through the island there aren't visible differences.
I mean the north is much more poor and there are nearly no world brands like Zara or something like that at least this is my experience when I cross to the north
@@dszxnavtiisx6384 I've seen people begging in the south but never the north, I am possibly less likely to notice the lack of brands but I saw no sign of poverty.
@@mrmr446 I live in Limassol and work in the south for 3 years, people from the north come to work in the south. Do not fool yourself the south is way more rich than the north
@@dszxnavtiisx6384 I know that I was simply pointing out that the two halves don't look so different as other comments made the north sound like a shantytown which is not my experience. Regretted not being able to visit the north earlier this year when visiting family who are half hour away from you.
@@mrmr446 I mean when you say that people are begging in the south but no in the north then I assumed that you mean the south is more poor than the north. But the south is much more rich I am paying for a small one bedroom apartment in Limassol 700€ rent which is even more then the minimum wage in the north and I notice the difference extremely you see way more good and expensive cars in the south then in the north you see child labour in the north you do not have that in the south and many shops are accepting bitcoin because they are desperate for customers. The south has an unemployment rate of 6%, South Cyprus is booming
It's not unsolvable. It's never unsolveable.
Treating your neighbors like human beings and agreeing to live and let live is always an option. Always.
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So it’s unsolvable.
Sooner or later, 2 state solution will find more supporters because based on the countless negotiations that has been taking place since 1974, it's obvious now that the Greek side will never ever agree to a balanced deal. They will ask for enormous concessions and Türkiye will never agree. All in good time
Cant do that when they occupy ur land; ask palestinians if they have to say thank you to Israel from taking their land all these years….Restitution is the only solution with TR going back to TR…
@@ephilipposyou couldn’t compare Israel with Turkey 😂! It’s sheer ignorance if not ill intention.
Israel was established in 1948, and occupied Palestine ever since and Palestinians are not even Israeli citizens. Gaza is an open air prison fully conrolled by Israel. Palestinians are not even allowed to move between their cities. There is no in or out from Gaza. Palestinians have no country, no citizenship. They have what Israel lets them have.
Turks are not occupiers on the island, they have been living there since 16th century. As you already know, but try to ignore, Cyprus was under the Ottomans Rule for hundreds of years, then during WW1 Britain took it. Then the island became independent back in 1960s. But Greeks wanted to get united with Greece, breached the Constitution, expelled Turks from the parliament. Then they killed Turks, tried to do ethnic cleansing. That’s why as a guarantor country Türkiye intervened.
You portray it like, Cyprus was a Greek island, only belonged to Greeks. But Türkiye, came out of nowhere, in a sunny peaceful day when Greeks give roses to Turks 😂.
Don’t manipulate the facts and play the victim!
Turks are not going anywhere. Cyprus is their homeland, too!
So dream on 😂!
Very poor analysis of the Annan Plan rejection by the Greek Cypriots. It's not that simple. Greek Cypriots basically had nothing to win from accepting this plan, rather than normalizing the Turkish Invasion and awarding them with EU membership.
Why didn't you mention that the UN proposed a referendum for Turkish Cypriots to seek independence but Greek Cypriots rejected it, you lied about the blue homeland plan which was envisioned in the Kemalist/secular regime of Turkey but you said it was started in the present regime, your bias is completely evident.