Cyprus is a good example of how dirty politics and politicians can ruin a country. I hope the people can understand and accept each other and prosper together for better future.
That would be nice...for that to happen, the education of young children in schools needs to drastically change, since the current curriculum still fosters hate and bitterness against Turkish Cypriots about what happened so many years ago. Of course it is very painful for those who lived through it all, and we should never forget, but we cannot go forward if we carry on this way. There are always two sides to every story. Politics at fault again!
What dirty politics you are talking about Greek Anosis started Genocide killing thousands of Turks in island ! Their grandparents committed Genocide now greeks want the house you get something killers jail time !
😢I lived in Famagusta late sixties to early seventies dad was stationed there going to the beach after school i remember the Grecian Hotel also the Arsenal football team staying at the St Georges hotel after winning the Double in 1971 Beautiful place
@@fatihpazarbasi9257 You are correct..We brought the army, divided the island disproportional, taking at our own will, declaring their own state, ignoring all UN resolutions, European Court of Justice..But of course they are the victims..Now they want 2 state solution but of course to take half of the natural resources of south side as well.. People please....
Very proud of the Lordos family and especially Andreas Lordos for all his efforts over the years looking for resolution.My father worked for the Lordos family and they were great employers. My self as a Cypriot from Australia can't wait to go back home to our great town of Famagusta go existing and living with our Turkish Cypriot PEOPLE.
My father has been doing the same for as long as I remember, but the other way round. It would be great to coexist, but there are too many bitter people on both sides
@@mirandapillsbury7885 we have no issues with Turkish Cypriots, my grandfather spoke Turkish and had many Turkish neighbours before the schism. If you feel like we can't coexist maybe you are the problem.
@@MiltiadesTH I'm just more realistic. Sorry. We have been apart now for a very very long time and none of us younger ppl have memories of living together because we never did. Our grandparents, sure. But us? No. We are not used to one another and we will clash again. It's better we stay separated but have friendly neighborly relations. That is my hope.
@@MiltiadesTH ''we have no issues with Turkish Cypriots'' Joke of the century. Even your education system feeds children alternative history so that you can be as hateful towards anything Turkish as possible. Your grandfather is irrelevant to this discussion, those days are long gone. The problem is Greek Cypriots and their systematic hate. We already know this for a fact from the Annan Plan in 2004. Greek Cypriots didn't want unification, every other party did. It doesn't require a rocket scientist to comprehend that Greek Cypriots want the island for solely for themselves. Which is why they will continue to hold just over half of the land area of Cyprus.
Please get word to Andres Lordos to see his doctor. His lymph nodes under his jaw look to be enlarged. This could indicate a health issue which needs to be urgently addressed. He needs his health to continue fighting for the property the is rightfully his.
👋Wow, what an incredible presentation of Varosha! You really captured its history and atmosphere in such a compelling way. I explored Varosha in one of my videos too, but I must say, the depth and perspective you brought here is truly inspiring. Your storytelling and visuals are on another level-amazing work! Keep it up!👍
Well as a Cypriot, I hope varosha will regain its former glory and maybe it will spark a peace wave that will end all of this division between Cypriots. It could be like the old times that our grandparents tells us.
@@dadikkedude yes exactly because the Republic of Southern Hellenic Cyprus were just recently selling ids to criminals of the world in exchange of 2 million euros but barring the children of Turkish Cypriots to get their ids. They steal the identity of people and give the citizenship to those who don not evet merit to live in the island.
Our grandparents was not living in peace, stop this romanticism. Point out who refused 2 times for unification. So 2 state federal solution is only way
@@selcuktugrul4267 I do agree ! The Greek Cypriots should accept what is already in vigor which is two state and in time to act as a single power in the island with bilateral good relations or not of which the course of the time will only tell. Greeks love to be seen as they are the inflicted part in this story but they hide their racist thoughts much much more than the Turkish Cypriots. I never heard in a family of Turkish Cypriot as making their children do what they sat by fearing them as '' or I will give you to The Greeks'' but I heard small children '' Koita Mitera, The Turks dont look like monsters like you told me!'' after the barricades opened for the first time.
Parabéns pelo documentário ! Sou fascinado pelo assunto... a história de Famagusta/Varosha...é impressionante ver a cidade tão bela abandonada ! Só acho estranho que eu tenha visto em seu vídeo ...muito mais VOCÊ do que a cidade ...uma pena. Pierre (Brazil/Espanha).
@@fatihpazarbasi9257 Even though Turkey's proposal for a two-state Cyprus was first formed an applied in the United Nations far back in the 1950's loooong before any violence occurs in the island🧐. More than that, suspiciously after the invasion Turkey has send more than 30.000 settlers from Anatolia and since then THEY can effectively elect the head of the "government" surprising the will of the Turkish Cypriots who said that they can't avoid anymore to be turkified and not represented.... Not even to mention that Turkey officially doesn't recognize the rights of Cyprus on its territorial waters....since according to turkey, the Anatolian landmass has more rights (😱!!) making the island eventually unimportant IF doesn't belong to Turkey!! All of what I said, you can find it on the official pages of the Turkish ministry of foreign affairs and on many many journalists writing about the Turkish Cypriots feelings today! So....
@@fatihpazarbasi9257 The enosis sentiment was never anti-Turkish. It was just an attempt of ethnic Greeks to unify with ethnic Greeks in a Hellenic Republic that would include the majority ethnic Greek island of Cyprus. When EOKA was fighting colonial British, no animosities against Turkish speaking Cypriots were committed, prior to the 1955 Istanbul pogrom led by the Turkish president at the time, Adnan Menderes, who burned 4000 Greek owned houses and stores and killed 37 Greeks in Istanbul in cooperation with the "Cyprus is Turkish" organisation. In fact the only Turkish Cypriot murdered by EOKA prior to that was a member of the colonial police, and was targeted because of that, not because he was a Turkish Cypriot. I cannot deny that many atrocities were targetted against Turkish Cypriots after the 1955 pogrom, however that doesnt justify: a) invading and occupying 37% of a sovereign nation b) forcing 200000 Greek Cypriots to leave their homes on the North and 50000 Turkish Cypriots to leave their homes on the South c) bringing 30000 people from mainland Turkey to live in homes of Greeks who fled, changing the demographics of the nation and making the illegally occupied North a puppet state. The two counities can live in peace, but we will have to wait until there is a fair agreement that both sides will accept.
Indeed. Greek greed and absurd ambitions of the Megali Idea. It's difficult to explain with world what an idiotic decision it was to try and assassinate the President of Cyprus and then trying to annex the island, with that very, very clear text in the treaties.
@@vanmars5718 Settlers were and are needed for the economy. Turkish Cypriots were rather few in a proportionately large land area. It has nothing to do with the Anatolian landmass, simpleton. Turkey has said that they will defend the territorial rights of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. Lies and assumptions. Your opinion is biased. I suggest you look in the mirror instead.
@@mariosbardis4831 ''The enosis sentiment was never anti-Turkish'' Joke of the century. EOKA even murdered Turkish Cypriot civilians, as did EOKA B. It does justify that. Especially when Greece tried to assassinate the President of Cyprus and installed a puppet government with the sole intention of annexing the island, which was a direct action against the Treaty of Guarantee. Turkey saved Cyprus as a sovereign state. EOKA B violence had already driven Turkish Cypriots into fortified enclaves consisting of only 3% of the land area of Cyprus by 1974. Do not forget, Turkish Cypriots lost their homes long before Greek Cypriots did. That agreement was already in place with the Annan Plan in 2004. Unsurprisingly, systematic Greek Cypriot hate led to them being the only party not to accept unification. They chose their own fate - again.
i believe the hotel Sandy Beach also belongs to the Lordos family.. i was working there in the kitchen in 1973 even the kitchen had air conditioning , left varosha in march 74 for london .. never to return.. ( to Varosha not Cyprus ) hotels were built on the sandy beach , big mistake ..
i lived in many countries in my life, but after i lived in Cyprus, I never left :) it is a beautiful island, with amazing people, weather and food. Love it here still 13 years later!
@@melikkarakulce587 from what??? Turkey is occupying territory of another state. What if Turkey felt it wanted to protect Turks of Germany? It could annex a part Germany and occupy it demand to recognize it as a separate country?
Yes, there is a land registry but the question is whether the lands have been legally acquired by the owners shown in the registry because during Ottoman times, most of the land in Varosha used to belong to a foundation and lands belonging to a foundation cannot be sold. They can only be rented or be provided for use on a non-profit basis but they cannot be sold. Therefore Turkey and the Republic of North Cyprus suspect that many/most of the owners in the land registry are not lawful owners. Currently there is an ongoing effort to find and translate the Ottoman archives which is a tedious work because there is a ton of documents to wade through, some documents need restoration and there are not many people who can read Ottoman Turkish.
@@ianhomerpura8937 It seems they won't vote yes to anything which gives the ethnic minority protections. Perhaps they want to slaughter them again? Who knows.
@@ianhomerpura8937 "better the devil you know". I guess we like keeping the country Greek cypriot, keep the culture intact. Multiculturalism has gone down well in other places, crime etc. Atm we Cyprus has the lowest crime rate in Europe, we had a currency stronger than the British pound before we joined the EU, no homeless people, high employment....why risk it
Que tristeza ver una isla divida en dos, por políticos y personas que no pueden vivir en paz con sus hermanos . Que difícil es entendernos entre seres humanos.
@Green Rose Except it is not your own.... neither Turkey bought the Greek properties in the north nor the T/C in the south was transferred to anyone else. This has to be resolved
@Green Rose But this state of separation will remain as a canker in the sides of both peoples until this issue gets adressed and a path that is agreeable to both sides is resolved. Cypriots, turks and greeks both have a place together on this island. My family name is "Priest of Constantinopolis" in greek. My patriarch moved to the Peleponnese in the past. In 1923 a convention was signed forcing pontic greeks in Anatolia and muslim turks in Greece to be "repatriated" back to their collective populations on religious grounds. Looking back in hindsight this was totally unacceptable and there is a legacy from this that both peoples have yet to address and work through. But I will say this: we both have far more in common than we have differences. The greek chanteuse Marina Satti just released an old greek folk song. For the video she went to Istanbul to make it (see link below). In this video we see her standing with turkish women. by their features these women could be from the same area as Marina. They could be cousins. I have no doubt that by the end of that video shoot they ended up as fast friends. There is no future is division and segregation (look at the Levant). A better future can be forged via unity and consensus. 💚💙 💙💚 MARINA SATTI - YIATI POULI M' (Official Video): ua-cam.com/video/vce6dbTtAzI/v-deo.html
So much hate in the comments.. you should all relax and accept that as we are today, is how we will remain.. the people who want to interact will interact..the rest keep to them selves.. happy days and move on.. personally I interact very regularly with the T/Cypriots and turks in the northern occupied side. we party together, drink and some times I even stay at their homes, they stay at my home in the internationally recognized Republic of Cyprus. And share our passions and enjoy life.. we are just people, we don't talk of the past, and acknowledge our history of brutality on both sides. THAT WAS THEN..THIS IS KNOW.. Today we all struggle to to put food on the table, want to see our children laugh and grow up safe, we want a nice environment to grow old into, we want to mix with people who we share the same passions and hobbies, have friends all over and enjoy these times we are living.. most people i know wont hurt the smallest animal, never the less kill another human.. its 2022..Education is on the peak of accessibility and we all use it for the best..not to create extremists... i hope this old generation wash off power on both sides and the new generation get to see a friendlier and more unified Cyprus with a different understanding and a friendlier approach among each other then, we will resolve all the issues that the previous generations have cursed us with
I want my old flat back, and don't raise your voice and wave guns around just because I want to go into MY OWN FLAT. My old hometown has become a GHOST CITY, my parents old apartment may not even be able to be renovated anymore. I saw big plants inside the walls. This is ridiculous.
This is a meaningless slogan that is unactionable. Suppose "we realize" today, all of us, everything is connected. Then what? What will actually change? How? Will human nature become different? Why?
As Andreas says.. its a matter of good will by turkey to return the property back to its owners. This would be a benifit for all Cypriots & Cyprus as a whole
Another bravery, opened eyes video shared by excellent documentary (DW)channel...I hope humanity, friendship between neighborhood nationally creates far from greedily opinion & Vinita of authorities every where...Greek owners returns their legal deserves
I surprised to hear that most of the old land so called inheritors wants to come back to Varosha even under Turkish authority. I do not know any plebiscite done for this but its good to hear. Big step for solution in my opinion.
The biggest step for solution is the occupying Turkish army and the hundreds of thousands of Turkish settlers to go back to Turkey and leave the Greek-cypriots and the Turkish-cypriots work it out on their own!
@@osmanfadil2451 how dare you claim "the killing of turkish cypriots by the greeks" when the Turkish army invaded Cyprus and slaughtered or displaced hundreds of thousands of Greek Cypriots (and has been condemned for that barbaric act by the International community)?
okay , but why do you say the "so called inheritors" ...they are dont the so called inheritors , they are the lawfull owners my friend ..dont forget ...
@@osmanfadil2451 that's the false narrative / pretext the Turks adopted in order to military invade Cyprus! Capsizing/ flipping over reality is a usual Turkish trick when they want to invade other peoples lands! Like now, in 2022, that they claim the totally peaceful Greece is aggressive towards Turkey!
Thank you DW for Showing us reality of situation in Cyprus But ....There is no such thing as a religious war. There is tension between Turkey and Greece. Like Azerbaijan and Armenia, there was a war between Azeris and Armenians. None of this was a religious war. Maybe the West and the Turkish regime, etc., would like to show a religious war, but it does not mean it at all
There is always religious wars, always. Not even within a religion there is peace. Religion is the power of evil. Shia and Sunni can’t live together, Protestants and Catholic fight always and then the fight between Christian’s and Muslims. I even have personal experience of fanatic violent Buddhist fight against peace in Sri Lanka. 🤯 Religion should be forbidden.
@@bokhans This fact is not true Why ? As far as I know, Turkey has problems with all its neighbors. Also, with the help of the Republic of Azerbaijan, it has called for tensions between the Turkish minority in Iran and the central government. He has repeatedly accused Iran of providing military assistance to Armenia Armenia and Iran have good relations, although Azerbaijan, for example, is Shiite and has the same religion as Iran but they are Turk ethnic and near Turkish Erdogan also has a problem with Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian president !!!!
There is still 3000 Turkish villagers are absent who were tortured and killed by EOKA. WE will never forget it. Everybody now lives in peace on Cyprus after Turkish Peace Opertion. Emperialists try to divide everycountry for colonising them easily... why do they want to unite Cyprus... is it to kill all Turks and finish the work of EOKA?
Quoted from Wikipedia, "In 1915, Britain offered Cyprus to Constantine I of Greece on condition that Greece join the war on the side of the British, which he declined." We can see how one person could screw up other people's life for a long, long time.
No, Britain's proposal was that Greece joins the war, gives Thrace to Bulgaria to have them join the war too and MAYBE they'd get Cyprus. You don't give up land based on a "maybe"
Hope for what? Reunification? I'd imagine that ship sailed in 2004 when the the two sides with the stamp from the UN brokered a fair deal. The majority on the island didn't want a fair deal and voted no. Apparently they want to completely an utterly dominate the minority group like in the good ol days for them. Reunification? There is no hope, it won't happen. Best case scenario is no violence between the two sides which has been the case since 1974. Don't fix it if it isn't broken.
No there isn't. Things haven't been this dire in a long time, even with the communities doing a very small amount of mingling. Greek Cypriots are still taught alternative history in school. The circle continues.
This is not a strange unique situation that happened only in Cyprus! there are many many countries in the world that are separated and people on both sides are in conflict. but those issues are not highlighted in the media!
If i invade a part of UK, then 20+ years later i LET back some of the peoples who lived there, but taxes must be paid to my account, how that would be acceptable? This is what the outside peoples can't understand unless they experience it.
Well they live under Turkish militairy occupation rule and they have the 40%of the land of Cyprus .When the invasion took place Turkish Cypriots were the 18 %of the total population of Cyprus .There is no share at all .They need to be respected as a Minority
@@theodoros. and this is why Turkey will never remove its troops, because of your ideology, no it was not 18%!!!! Most of the north was occupied by Turkish Cypriots anyways, and I wonder why our population declined? Because of your atrocities, murders, looting houses and properties between 63-74 way before Turkey INTERVENED, your just a greek citizen from Athens. Dinosouras
@@Musthecrazygooner You have many mistakes. Yes in 1974 turkishCypriots were 18% of Cyprus population. Before 1974 the north part of Cyprus Republic was inhabited mostly by greekCypriots, 200.000 greekCypriots were ethnic cleanse from there since today. For example Famagusta was a completely greekCypriot city. turkishCypriots population was not declined. during 1963-64 around 400-500 people die from both sides but in 1975 turkey killed 8.000 greekCypriots in 30 days. So greekCypriot population declined. Facts are facts and none can change history.
@@theodoros. Now north Cyprus population is about 330k and south is about 900k. These are the real numbers now. Turkish Cypriots are about 27% of the total population! Unless you want to massacre 110k to make it 18% again?
@@marwanarrif well I want peace and I believe that humans are brothers .Turkey should stop sending people from Turkey to change the population of the island .27 %still makes a minority.The majority of the island are Greek Cypriot nowdays as well .I hooe they both live as equal in an Free State of Cyprus .
Cyprus is never going to unify not unless there is a massive fundamental shift , and unless one side or the other is willing to completely subjugate themselves , which will never happen , so the people whose lives are and have been affected will just keep getting their hopes up and being constantly strung along .
i don't believe there will ever be a solution to Cyprus problem since the demographics on the island change rapidly. Since the Turkish invasion they keep bringing Turk settlers on the occupied North giving them GreekCypriot properties. The settlers don't want reunification. The last decades even the TurkCypriots became a minority in Northern occupied part of the island. One of Turkey's demands to allow reunification is all these settlers to remain in the island and granted with political rights and citizenship.
@@karimelharayry6477 the thing is that the european cyprus is the only recognised one. that b itself shows who is wrong and who is right. Nobody will ever recognise trnc
@@karimelharayry6477 ohh it does not have to do at all with religion especially in 2022. yes russians and chinese as well as many europeans are doing business in cyprus and many brits retire there. it is also part of the commonwealth. i feel so sorry for turkish cypriots. greece is not a dictatorship like in 1974. the only dictatorship today is this of turkey. sadly but true. there is not reason for turkish army in northern cyprus as if it reunites it will be european union and all their rights covered and guaranteed. now they have no future with their non existing papers
@@karimelharayry6477 Cyprus has 3 languages Greek English and Turkish. And everything should be written in all 3. Plus same thing is happening in scandinavia and i dotnt see u making a fuss about
I would want to see British fully annexing the North Cyprus and incorporating into British Overseas Teritories. Of course expelling turkish cypriots back to Turkey would be the right course of action.
... you forget to say that all south Cyprus citizens are angels. A reunification plan proposed by Annan in 2004 was approved by 65% of Turkish Cypriots, and rejected by 76% of Greek Cypriots .. .
@@zarathustra8789 I agree with you completely. The number of areas in Europe that's recognise by just a single country is too much. Moldova, Ukraine, Georgia....
@@noblecollins9549 no they are not seperatist, greeks and turks were living there under british control, they took the land from ottomans. so it was turkish land. but after 1960's greeks started to kill turks and wanted to join greece, and turkish cypriots wanted help from turkey.
Looking at this issues one can say that some other big nations are benefiting from their dis-unification, the earlier the better otherwise one keep getting poorer no matter what and the other think their they are richer but not as they think.
To be honest, this is one of the more neutral stances on the issue. While not perfect, as someone who is pro Turkish on this issue I will claim that this is at the very least decent journalism. In this short video they also spoke of the Turkish and Turkish Cypriot stance, including interviews. I should also note that they went out of their way to make it very clear that Turkey and Turkish Cypriots want unification. Something that Greek Cypriot nationalists blatantly deny and claim that Cyprus is occupied and that Turkey wants to annex its land area.
Of course, Mr. Lordos should get his property rights, but with all honesty and with full impartiality, I have to say that building that 11-storey ugly structure right on that beautiful beach is tantamount to murder.
@@twistedmuppet2464 Actually I'm not being ethnically cleansed by anyone. I don't live in a country where minority groups are being slaughtered, I don't live on Cyprus where the majority goes full blast Hitler on small minority groups. Thanks for your concern though.
The average lifespan is only 75 years. Why do we just waste our time here on Earth with war, oppression and domination. Who are we trying to impress? I wish everyone a good life, peace of mind and body.
I thought they were talking about a private home, not some run down apartment building. I would absolutely demolish such abuilding that has been by the seaside for likely well over half a century. Some clarifications. 1:03 - The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus was established in 1983, not in 1974. After almost a decade without meaningful negotiations they instead proclaimed independence. 4:40 - I should add that Southern Cyprus also 'demonstrates their military strength' on a regular basis. There however, the hand is not extended for a greeting as the Greek Cypriot National Guard is a hub for nationalists that have been taught alternative history. 6:38 - While this irrational train of thought is somewhat understandable in such a situation, it's rather ignorant to think that a Turkish military aircraft would even consider wasting any time, weaponry or ammunition on a civilian vehicle on a public road. The island should already have been united with the Annan Plan in 2004. Sadly, Greek Cypriots have been systematically taught to hate anything 'Turkish' and they were the only party in the entire process to not accept unification. It's clear Greek Cypriots only want Cyprus for themselves, which is why they are in this situation and will remain so.
Did u just say that u wld demolish someone elses property? What arrogance and why do u think u have a right. Who cares what u wld do with ur usual alterior agendas. Its obvious what ur mentality is as as pro turk and if you had ur way u wld take over the world by force. Many of you are Inhumane tyrants waiting for any opportunity. U are probably not even a real Turkish Cypriot who are like Greek cyoriots and want peace and resolition. So u are totally wrong as we do want to live again with our REAL Cypriot brother who have ebery right too. U have prob been forcefed ur own propaganda.. U prob agree with selling the owners own buildings to any bidders . Karma is real
When Germans are able to get their properties back from Czech Republic that will be the day when the Greek Cypriots will get their properties back from Varosha too
i can see the turkish cypriots trapped under turkey with nobody recognising them.. all their diplomas all their certificates passports are useless. and iam so happy for that. we can continue like that if u want
@@apollonmagg4603 An absurd lie. Everyone involved already accepted unification in 2004 with the Annan Plan - Everyone except for Greek Cypriots, of course. It is Greek Cypriots who do not want and blatantly refuse a united Cyprus.
What happens when UN and America can't be bothered. Its mad at this day in age its still like this. I'm surprised the citizens haven't turned on goverment and got together. The resort being totally abandoned is horrible. The amount of money and memories there and its just been left quickly and now you can return to walk about and go to beach like it's normal but you can't stay anywhere? It's very very strange. Hopefully one day get a resolution and not still like this in years to come
Why doesn't DW do a program about what created the division. The violent ethnic cleansing of the co owning Turkish Cypriots by Greek Cypriots in their illegal quest to unite with Greece. Why doesn't DW talk about the plans to unite the island which would have included the return of Varosha but Greek Cypriots rejected all plans for unification. What about the Turkish Cypriots who lost property in the South? Larnaca Airport is built on Turkish Cypriot land and this is just one example. Unfortunately the Greek Cypriots have only themselves to blame.
Full of lies. Full of propaganda! What was the ethnic cleansing tell me exact number, don't try to change the topic. 94% of Cypriots voted for Annexation with Greece. The same you did with Alexandretta after even changing demographically its population. Properties of Turkish? Hahahahahaha hah. The whole North side are settlers who live on properties of greek Cypriots that they stole from. Tell me about the planned invasion in 60s, the staged pogroms in 1955. Tell me how many greeks Cypriots were killed by Turkish as well. You should be very delusional to believe that Greeks Cypriots are some messiah who would unite with peple who are much poorer, much less educated.
Varosha should be opened up to benefit both communities. And it's true that the Greek Cypriot politicians will not agree to anything. A few errors of fact. It is not true that many Greek Cypriots do not cross over to the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. In the pre-covid 2019, there were 1,776,343 crossings from the south to the north with many Greek Cypriots enjoying hotels, restaurants and casinos. Secondly, and crucially, the İmmovable Property Commission was not set up by Turkish Cypriots as reported. it was established by the European Union following a recommendation from the European Court of human rights. To date, it has paid out GBP 330 million compensation to Greek Cypriots. The reverse is not the case. The Greek Cypriot authorities refuse pay any compensation to Turkish Cypriots for land which was left behind in the South "until the Cyprus problem is resolved'. Finally, the report does not mention the fact that the land on which Greek Cypriots had built many of their properties was in fact "stolen property" because this land had belonged to the Islamic charitable trust Evkaf for, in some cases, hundreds of years before it was misappropriated by the British when they had Cyprus as their colony, and reassigned to Greek Cypriots illegally. This report is anti-Turkish. İt says nothing about the land and property lost by Turkish Cypriots, not only after 1974, but also between 1963-74 when they were attacked and driven out of 103 villages, and the suffering that ensued.
my house in limmasol was left to crumble .the island will never be united ,it was tried ,but the greek cypriots always vote against it at the last moment.
Now it is turns out that the future of mankind is up to whether the peace is in the hands of people or the hands of politicians...the history tells that people live to hand over their lives to politicians..!!!
Why? Did he kill them? Punishing people who did nothing wrong is wrong period. Why doesn't Turkey just sue for restitution or is that not allowed for some reason? I'm asking seriously so spare me any trolling 🤔
@@latinbrotherhood495 No clue you'd have to find whomever killed them and ask. Hope they get caught though. All perpetrators of genocide should be held accountable.
3.000??? The missing persons after the invasion in 1974 are 1,510 were Greek Cypriots and the remainder of the missing, 492, were Turkish Cypriots. Turkish propaganda at its finest.
Ever since Lord Byron helped mainland Greeks rediscover themselves as the golden Greeks of ancient Athens a cleavage started between Turks and Greeks. Whereas Greeks contributed significantly to the Ottoman Empire, it is now all forgotten. Nationalism rewrites history. The result: Turks and Greeks are like olive oil and water. They cannot mix. The days of empire are gone. Greek national mythology is confused. On the one hand it is ancient Athenian democracy, colonialism. On the other hand Byzantium and dreams of Roman Empire. Which is true? I think the former. Today's Greece is more like ancient Athens. Ethnically pure, managing dozens of islands (the colonial model). Greeks came to control Constantinople after the Roman Empire decayed. Over time they shrunk it to just one city. Their minds do not make an empire. Turks were the true inheritors of Rome. Over time they controlled lands that broke into over two dozen nations. Pax Ottomanica lasted hundreds of years. While Turks are welcoming 4 million Syrian refugees, Greeks are busy pushing hundreds back. Different mind sets. Conclusion: Turks can never live under the Greeks because like Israelis and Kurds they are into ethnic purity. And Greeks can never live under Turks since Lord Byron. So the best solution is to have them separate. Killings of Turks in Cyprus were commonplace before 1974. Now Turks in Cyprus have peace. Cannot trust Greeks. Remember the Trojan Horse? It is the same game now. To the degree Greeks have not found meaning other than the "golden Greeks of Athens" their malaise translates into problems for Turks. They need to find an identity beyond being a tourist destination for Europeans.
That'd be also a way in which the Turkish government could finally get some euro currency in their reserve. It'd be a drop in the ocean given their crisis, but it'd help them nevertheless.
Save your euros for Greece which has been bankrupt three times over and had to be bailed out by the EU, sell its assets including ports to China and Germany.
@Sorsetti Gommosi, I'd hate to see any government on the planet put a small minority at group of another ethnic cleansing attempt just so they can get a few bucks in the bank.. That would be insanity.
In March 1372, the Catholic Saint Bridget of Sweden embarked for the Holy Land from Naples. ''Once there, Bridget did not omit any of the places the Saviour had sanctified with His presence, and she received many lights, especially on the passion and death of Jesus Christ. God also revealed to her the state of several kingdoms, such as the state of devastation of the kingdom of Cyprus and the imminent fall of the Byzantine Empire. She addressed a letter to the king of Cyprus and his people. To the schismatic Orthodox, she did not hesitate to say, on God's behalf, that they would be delivered to the power of their enemies if they did not submit to the vicar of Christ (the pope) with true humility and sincere love. Considered an ''old fool'', Bridget was not listened to''
It must have been a beautiful city before it was turned into a tourist trap and the high rises were built. Without the Turkish invasion the whole place would now be a concrete jungle.
0:41 North Cyprus isn't Turkish, North Cyprus is a place that belongs to Cypriots, and Turkey forced them to flee by invading and slaughtering innocents.
You're confusing yourself. It's the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, a de facto independent nation. Turkey does *not* claim any area of Cyprus, they merely recognize the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. You also missed the part where Greece tried to assassinate Makarios, the President of Cyprus and installed a puppet government on the island with the sole intension of illegally annexing it. This led to the *legal* invasion of Cyprus by Turkey. I repeat, the United Nation confirmed that Turkey *legally* invaded Cyprus as per the Treaty of Guarantee. If you wish to paint fingers, either direct them towards Greece, or do so in front of a mirror.
I wonder why nobody talks about the Turkish villages left on the south side of the island??? 🤔There was a war and now Turkish Cypriots dont have a country. This is the biggest loss while greek Cypriots enjoy EU membership alone
This is how it happened: On 11 April 1965, Dervis Kavazoglou a Turkish Cypriot, and Costas Mishaoulis a Greek Cypriot were murdered together in their car by T/C members of the terrorist organization (TMT). Below extract from one of the speeches of the late Kavazoglou: “They have managed to drive the young people of Cyprus, Greeks, and Turks on the mountains to fight and kill each other. Only yesterday they were working together in the workshops, offices, and in the mines, they were plowing the same earth to provide bread for their families”. They have created the myth and the lie that is impossible for the two communities to co-exist in peace. They drove 20 000 Turks out of their homes and put them in places like concentration camps thus putting the base for partition.
@@nonamenoname2767 I am an ardent supporter of peace and friendship between the Greek and Turkish people. Back in the 1950s as a young trade unionist, I took part in strikes and demonstrations against the innocent killing of Greek and Turkish Cypriots by both EOKA and TMT. Below, is one of my comments: "I would also like to pay tribute to the honorable and humanitarian action of the Turkish army officer Hakki Boratas who save a number of innocent Greek Cypriot lives by stopping and warning Turgut Yenagali "if he walked outside, he would shoot him". Turgut Yenagrali, who said in a TV interview that he had killed Greek Cypriot civilian war prisoners. I hope that one day a united Cyprus will honour this Turkish Officer and any other person who under bestial conditions acted in a humanitarian way." I hope that the above clarifies my attitude towards the democratic people of Turkey.
You are wrong! The Turkish Cypriots who we have been living relatively peacefully before the Turkish invasion in 1974 are also EU citizens as they have a passport of the Republic of Cyprus. They are today about 100 000. Half of the population of Turkish Cypriots. The other half was brought by Turkey illegally after the invasion to 'justify' its intervention
Out of 19 proposed solutions the Greek Cypriot administration has refused 17 with the Turkish Cypriot administration saying no to 2 proposals this shows that the Greek Cypriot administration is only interested in a full take over over the island
That is largely because those proposed solutions did not include the withdrawal of the Turkish occupying army. So, what's the point to pretend offering solutions, if Turkey is not willing to end the occupation?
It's a sad story but let's face it. Lordos primarily wants to build more hotels and make more money. It's a sad story but Cyprus is full of Lordos hotels and we are an island that needs to rely less on tourism, not more.
There are many points missed here and not mentioned.In 1960 Geneva agreement,agreed by all and signed,the were 3 guarantors put there to look after the freedom of he island and above all sovereignty and identity.Those guarantors were Turkey,Greece and Britain.In 1974,you had a Greek Coup on the island,the second guarantor invaded to,so they say,to take cars of the TCS there and the third,Britain,did sweet fa.The troubles in 1974 started in July and ended at the end of August.The Junta collapsed in Greece and democracy restored in Greece but the Turks,as a guarantor,stayed,occupied and later settled with many Turks,who are now more than the TCS.What wonderful guarantors.Every time there has been an effort to have a settlement on the island it has always been scuttled by Turkey.To understand the situation better,Turkey today is disputing 152 Greek Islands,Including Rhodes,Mytilini,Kos,including even Crete.The arrogance of that country has no bounds.Greece is now on the brink of war with Turkey because of that and i can't say i blame her.The same in Cyprus,Turkey now controls the north part and has taken away even the control from the TCS.The latest news is that Turkey has sent 200 police to the north,to control TCS,who are now against Turkeys control in the area that was there.The Turks daily are insulting,provoking and threatening the GCS.You will not get a solution on the island unless its achieved by the Cypriots themselves.Turkey must let go of her control and let the Cypriots sort out an agreement.She behaves now as if north Cyprus belongs to her.IT DOES NOT.Even the TCS leader elected recently won by Turkey fixing the vote so he could win by bribing voters,settlers,with 500 euros.Until recently that leader was a wanted man in the UK.That is the latest situation on the island and in my view the GCS are doing their best to reunite the island but the problem is Turkey.One of the guarantors of the freedom of the island is doing anything but.On the GCS roc,the legally recognised entity,has even voted a TC Niyazi Kizikurec as an MEP.They are moving forward but always Turkey causes problem.Cyprus is for the Cypriot people,not Turkey not Greece.Greece does not control the GCS.The day Turkey does that will be a step in the right direction.There is absolutely no law in the world that gives peoples property to others it does not belong to.Varosha is Cypriot and not there to be taken over by an authority not recognised by anyone or a people who do not exist,trnc,my backside.Even the trnc boys remember that they are Cypriot when oil and gas is found in the south.All of a sudden the so called trnc wants whats in the south.That is the kind of low life Cypriots are dealing with.There is your problem.I can invade and take 40% of what belongs to you but i still want 50% whats yours.In my life i have always seen bullies and crooks getting their comuppance.Their day will come and soon i hope.
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All the time there is a single Turkish soldier, any of the 200,00 forced Turkish migrants and their descendants on the island there will be no re-unification.
Cyprus is a good example of how dirty politics and politicians can ruin a country. I hope the people can understand and accept each other and prosper together for better future.
They have ruined us for real.. one covering the other.. huge houses everywhere.. can't tell me it's clean money..
Cyprus is a cautionary tail of why ethnic cleansing can never lead to anything good.
That would be nice...for that to happen, the education of young children in schools needs to drastically change, since the current curriculum still fosters hate and bitterness against Turkish Cypriots about what happened so many years ago. Of course it is very painful for those who lived through it all, and we should never forget, but we cannot go forward if we carry on this way. There are always two sides to every story. Politics at fault again!
What dirty politics you are talking about Greek Anosis started Genocide killing thousands of Turks in island ! Their grandparents committed Genocide now greeks want the house you get something killers jail time !
It really isn't.
Cyprus is a good example of how a Greek military dictatorship caused great pain and suffering with their criminal actions.
😢I lived in Famagusta late sixties to early seventies dad was stationed there going to the beach after school i remember the Grecian Hotel also the Arsenal football team staying at the St Georges hotel after winning the Double in 1971 Beautiful place
I am praying that this gentleman will get his property back & build his dream! Peace be with all! 🙋♀️🤗
@@fatihpazarbasi9257 it's the Turk Cypriots a minority that with the annans plans were getting 50% of Cyprus which is not fair.
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He wont be getting anything…
@@fatihpazarbasi9257 They voted no because the Annan Plan was pro Turkey and against Cyprus interests. Greek Cypriots want to reunite since 1974.
@@fatihpazarbasi9257 You are correct..We brought the army, divided the island disproportional, taking at our own will, declaring their own state, ignoring all UN resolutions, European Court of Justice..But of course they are the victims..Now they want 2 state solution but of course to take half of the natural resources of south side as well..
People please....
I hope one day they can return varosha back to its prime! It looks like it would have been an awesome place for a holiday
Thank you DW for another insightful documentary on the Cyprus issue!
Very proud of the Lordos family and especially Andreas Lordos for all his efforts over the years looking for resolution.My father worked for the Lordos family and they were great employers. My self as a Cypriot from Australia can't wait to go back home to our great town of Famagusta go existing and living with our Turkish Cypriot PEOPLE.
My father has been doing the same for as long as I remember, but the other way round. It would be great to coexist, but there are too many bitter people on both sides
oh please. You guys hate us Turkish Cypriots. We want to be separate. It's the best way for us to live in peace as neighbors.
@@mirandapillsbury7885 we have no issues with Turkish Cypriots, my grandfather spoke Turkish and had many Turkish neighbours before the schism. If you feel like we can't coexist maybe you are the problem.
@@MiltiadesTH I'm just more realistic. Sorry. We have been apart now for a very very long time and none of us younger ppl have memories of living together because we never did. Our grandparents, sure. But us? No. We are not used to one another and we will clash again. It's better we stay separated but have friendly neighborly relations. That is my hope.
@@MiltiadesTH ''we have no issues with Turkish Cypriots''
Joke of the century. Even your education system feeds children alternative history so that you can be as hateful towards anything Turkish as possible.
Your grandfather is irrelevant to this discussion, those days are long gone.
The problem is Greek Cypriots and their systematic hate. We already know this for a fact from the Annan Plan in 2004. Greek Cypriots didn't want unification, every other party did. It doesn't require a rocket scientist to comprehend that Greek Cypriots want the island for solely for themselves. Which is why they will continue to hold just over half of the land area of Cyprus.
Please get word to Andres Lordos to see his doctor. His lymph nodes under his jaw look to be enlarged. This could indicate a health issue which needs to be urgently addressed. He needs his health to continue fighting for the property the is rightfully his.
Good call, sir.
👋Wow, what an incredible presentation of Varosha! You really captured its history and atmosphere in such a compelling way. I explored Varosha in one of my videos too, but I must say, the depth and perspective you brought here is truly inspiring. Your storytelling and visuals are on another level-amazing work! Keep it up!👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to share your thoughts!
The Lordos family had a huge investment in Varosha as did even the poorest families.
I was in Cyprus, also in Famagusta and Verosia...... and I loved it.
Love from CHILE.
Well as a Cypriot, I hope varosha will regain its former glory and maybe it will spark a peace wave that will end all of this division between Cypriots. It could be like the old times that our grandparents tells us.
Cyprus is a cancer of Europe, corrupt scam central
@@dadikkedude Cyprus is good.
@@dadikkedude yes exactly because the Republic of Southern Hellenic Cyprus were just recently selling ids to criminals of the world in exchange of 2 million euros but barring the children of Turkish Cypriots to get their ids. They steal the identity of people and give the citizenship to those who don not evet merit to live in the island.
Our grandparents was not living in peace, stop this romanticism. Point out who refused 2 times for unification. So 2 state federal solution is only way
@@selcuktugrul4267 I do agree ! The Greek Cypriots should accept what is already in vigor which is two state and in time to act as a single power in the island with bilateral good relations or not of which the course of the time will only tell. Greeks love to be seen as they are the inflicted part in this story but they hide their racist thoughts much much more than the Turkish Cypriots. I never heard in a family of Turkish Cypriot as making their children do what they sat by fearing them as '' or I will give you to The Greeks'' but I heard small children '' Koita Mitera, The Turks dont look like monsters like you told me!'' after the barricades opened for the first time.
Parabéns pelo documentário !
Sou fascinado pelo assunto... a história de Famagusta/Varosha...é impressionante ver a cidade tão bela abandonada !
Só acho estranho que eu tenha visto em seu vídeo ...muito mais VOCÊ do que a cidade ...uma pena.
Pierre (Brazil/Espanha).
Would love to visit Cyprus one day...
Hopefully...
A nation of a people with a long enduring history, separated for the benefit of a greedy few.
@@fatihpazarbasi9257 Even though Turkey's proposal for a two-state Cyprus was first formed an applied in the United Nations far back in the 1950's loooong before any violence occurs in the island🧐. More than that, suspiciously after the invasion Turkey has send more than 30.000 settlers from Anatolia and since then THEY can effectively elect the head of the "government" surprising the will of the Turkish Cypriots who said that they can't avoid anymore to be turkified and not represented....
Not even to mention that Turkey officially doesn't recognize the rights of Cyprus on its territorial waters....since according to turkey, the Anatolian landmass has more rights (😱!!) making the island eventually unimportant IF doesn't belong to Turkey!!
All of what I said, you can find it on the official pages of the Turkish ministry of foreign affairs and on many many journalists writing about the Turkish Cypriots feelings today!
So....
@@fatihpazarbasi9257 The enosis sentiment was never anti-Turkish. It was just an attempt of ethnic Greeks to unify with ethnic Greeks in a Hellenic Republic that would include the majority ethnic Greek island of Cyprus. When EOKA was fighting colonial British, no animosities against Turkish speaking Cypriots were committed, prior to the 1955 Istanbul pogrom led by the Turkish president at the time, Adnan Menderes, who burned 4000 Greek owned houses and stores and killed 37 Greeks in Istanbul in cooperation with the "Cyprus is Turkish" organisation. In fact the only Turkish Cypriot murdered by EOKA prior to that was a member of the colonial police, and was targeted because of that, not because he was a Turkish Cypriot. I cannot deny that many atrocities were targetted against Turkish Cypriots after the 1955 pogrom, however that doesnt justify: a) invading and occupying 37% of a sovereign nation b) forcing 200000 Greek Cypriots to leave their homes on the North and 50000 Turkish Cypriots to leave their homes on the South c) bringing 30000 people from mainland Turkey to live in homes of Greeks who fled, changing the demographics of the nation and making the illegally occupied North a puppet state. The two counities can live in peace, but we will have to wait until there is a fair agreement that both sides will accept.
Indeed. Greek greed and absurd ambitions of the Megali Idea.
It's difficult to explain with world what an idiotic decision it was to try and assassinate the President of Cyprus and then trying to annex the island, with that very, very clear text in the treaties.
@@vanmars5718 Settlers were and are needed for the economy. Turkish Cypriots were rather few in a proportionately large land area.
It has nothing to do with the Anatolian landmass, simpleton. Turkey has said that they will defend the territorial rights of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.
Lies and assumptions. Your opinion is biased. I suggest you look in the mirror instead.
@@mariosbardis4831 ''The enosis sentiment was never anti-Turkish''
Joke of the century. EOKA even murdered Turkish Cypriot civilians, as did EOKA B.
It does justify that. Especially when Greece tried to assassinate the President of Cyprus and installed a puppet government with the sole intention of annexing the island, which was a direct action against the Treaty of Guarantee. Turkey saved Cyprus as a sovereign state.
EOKA B violence had already driven Turkish Cypriots into fortified enclaves consisting of only 3% of the land area of Cyprus by 1974. Do not forget, Turkish Cypriots lost their homes long before Greek Cypriots did.
That agreement was already in place with the Annan Plan in 2004. Unsurprisingly, systematic Greek Cypriot hate led to them being the only party not to accept unification. They chose their own fate - again.
Thank you DW! God bless!
Go easy on the fairy tales.
i believe the hotel Sandy Beach also belongs to the Lordos family.. i was working there in the kitchen in 1973 even the kitchen had air conditioning , left varosha in march 74 for london .. never to return.. ( to Varosha not Cyprus ) hotels were built on the sandy beach , big mistake ..
I remember it
That's some incredible timing, well done!
I would love to go to Cyprus, my father was their many years ago and he loved it
i lived in many countries in my life, but after i lived in Cyprus, I never left :) it is a beautiful island, with amazing people, weather and food. Love it here still 13 years later!
@@loiuhuiygny7guyguiygk my dad did his national service their
@@lookoutleo Is he Grecian?
@@universalspaceexpeditioner8259 UK , Scottish
See you this Summer?? I'm in Limassol .. Had friends from Scotland visit here.. Scottish people are very friendly people..🙂🙂
Freedom to Cyprus 🇨🇾
@@fatihpazarbasi9257 It is not free, it is invaded and occupied by Turkey.
Hopefully reunion occurs.
It was freed from a majority group trying to go full hitler on a minority group in 1974 no?
@@universalspaceexpeditioner8259 it's not invasion. Turkey is protecting Turkish Cypriot.
@@melikkarakulce587 from what???
Turkey is occupying territory of another state.
What if Turkey felt it wanted to protect Turks of Germany? It could annex a part Germany and occupy it demand to recognize it as a separate country?
A great video, many thanks!!
Yes, there is a land registry but the question is whether the lands have been legally acquired by the owners shown in the registry because during Ottoman times, most of the land in Varosha used to belong to a foundation and lands belonging to a foundation cannot be sold. They can only be rented or be provided for use on a non-profit basis but they cannot be sold. Therefore Turkey and the Republic of North Cyprus suspect that many/most of the owners in the land registry are not lawful owners. Currently there is an ongoing effort to find and translate the Ottoman archives which is a tedious work because there is a ton of documents to wade through, some documents need restoration and there are not many people who can read Ottoman Turkish.
Cyprus is a godsend
I was there in 2012. There was belief that reconciliation would be next year. Now it is 2022. Nothing has changed.
We voted NO to union
And there’s never going to be a solution with the way things are
@@leonsparta8238 why though
@@ianhomerpura8937 It seems they won't vote yes to anything which gives the ethnic minority protections.
Perhaps they want to slaughter them again? Who knows.
@@ianhomerpura8937 "better the devil you know". I guess we like keeping the country Greek cypriot, keep the culture intact. Multiculturalism has gone down well in other places, crime etc.
Atm we Cyprus has the lowest crime rate in Europe, we had a currency stronger than the British pound before we joined the EU, no homeless people, high employment....why risk it
Que tristeza ver una isla divida en dos, por políticos y personas que no pueden vivir en paz con sus hermanos . Que difícil es entendernos entre seres humanos.
Great video 👍
Varosha needs peaceful solution this town should be open to everyone 🙏
Interesting information
War is hell. Peace is prosperity.
Let’s make Varosha luxury and normal again!😄😄😄
Thank you for sharing, did not know that
We reach a consensus, if we cannot we are pragmatic and we agree to disagree and we get on with living together. 💙❤
@Green Rose Except it is not your own.... neither Turkey bought the Greek properties in the north nor the T/C in the south was transferred to anyone else. This has to be resolved
@Green Rose But this state of separation will remain as a canker in the sides of both peoples until this issue gets adressed and a path that is agreeable to both sides is resolved. Cypriots, turks and greeks both have a place together on this island.
My family name is "Priest of Constantinopolis" in greek. My patriarch moved to the Peleponnese in the past. In 1923 a convention was signed forcing pontic greeks in Anatolia and muslim turks in Greece to be "repatriated" back to their collective populations on religious grounds. Looking back in hindsight this was totally unacceptable and there is a legacy from this that both peoples have yet to address and work through. But I will say this: we both have far more in common than we have differences.
The greek chanteuse Marina Satti just released an old greek folk song. For the video she went to Istanbul to make it (see link below). In this video we see her standing with turkish women. by their features these women could be from the same area as Marina. They could be cousins. I have no doubt that by the end of that video shoot they ended up as fast friends.
There is no future is division and segregation (look at the Levant). A better future can be forged via unity and consensus.
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MARINA SATTI - YIATI POULI M' (Official Video): ua-cam.com/video/vce6dbTtAzI/v-deo.html
Buildings belonging to people must be given back to them. The UN .must sort this mess out once and for all.
The UN IS A JOKE
They owned one flat, not the building. That part of the story was beyond silly to be perfectly honest.
I'll immediately tell them
So much hate in the comments.. you should all relax and accept that as we are today, is how we will remain.. the people who want to interact will interact..the rest keep to them selves.. happy days and move on..
personally I interact very regularly with the T/Cypriots and turks in the northern occupied side.
we party together, drink and some times I even stay at their homes, they stay at my home in the internationally recognized Republic of Cyprus. And share our passions and enjoy life..
we are just people, we don't talk of the past, and acknowledge our history of brutality on both sides.
THAT WAS THEN..THIS IS KNOW..
Today we all struggle to to put food on the table, want to see our children laugh and grow up safe, we want a nice environment to grow old into, we want to mix with people who we share the same passions and hobbies, have friends all over and enjoy these times we are living.. most people i know wont hurt the smallest animal, never the less kill another human..
its 2022..Education is on the peak of accessibility and we all use it for the best..not to create extremists...
i hope this old generation wash off power on both sides and the new generation get to see a friendlier and more unified Cyprus with a different understanding and a friendlier approach among each other then, we will resolve all the issues that the previous generations have cursed us with
Equating the victim with the victimizer is on its own an act of aggression!
Share your passions, that sounds like a good time!
Props to you, friend!
@@ThomasGazis Ignorance.
I want my old flat back, and don't raise your voice and wave guns around just because I want to go into MY OWN FLAT. My old hometown has become a GHOST CITY, my parents old apartment may not even be able to be renovated anymore. I saw big plants inside the walls. This is ridiculous.
Everything is connected...the sooner ppl realize that the better
This is a meaningless slogan that is unactionable. Suppose "we realize" today, all of us, everything is connected. Then what? What will actually change? How? Will human nature become different? Why?
@@Irresistance You are right.
Unfortunately Susie's comment is ignorant and has no actual substance.
Το χώμα που περπάτησα η γη που νοσταλγώ …
As Andreas says.. its a matter of good will by turkey to return the property back to its owners. This would be a benifit for all Cypriots & Cyprus as a whole
Nope, what about turkish cypriot property in south cyprus back before the partition?
Another bravery, opened eyes video shared by excellent documentary (DW)channel...I hope humanity, friendship between neighborhood nationally creates far from greedily opinion & Vinita of authorities every where...Greek owners returns their legal deserves
I surprised to hear that most of the old land so called inheritors wants to come back to Varosha even under Turkish authority. I do not know any plebiscite done for this but its good to hear. Big step for solution in my opinion.
The biggest step for solution is the occupying Turkish army and the hundreds of thousands of Turkish settlers to go back to Turkey and leave the Greek-cypriots and the Turkish-cypriots work it out on their own!
@@ThomasGazis or the killing of turkish cypriots by the greeks ,go learn your history .i lived it .
@@osmanfadil2451 how dare you claim "the killing of turkish cypriots by the greeks" when the Turkish army invaded Cyprus and slaughtered or displaced hundreds of thousands of Greek Cypriots (and has been condemned for that barbaric act by the International community)?
okay , but why do you say the "so called inheritors" ...they are dont the so called inheritors , they are the lawfull owners my friend ..dont forget ...
@@osmanfadil2451 that's the false narrative / pretext the Turks adopted in order to military invade Cyprus! Capsizing/ flipping over reality is a usual Turkish trick when they want to invade other peoples lands! Like now, in 2022, that they claim the totally peaceful Greece is aggressive towards Turkey!
According to FORBES magazine this area is said to be number one property investment in 2021. ( Long Beach Famagusta )
Thank you DW for Showing us reality of situation in Cyprus
But ....There is no such thing as a religious war. There is tension between Turkey and Greece. Like Azerbaijan and Armenia, there was a war between Azeris and Armenians. None of this was a religious war.
Maybe the West and the Turkish regime, etc., would like to show a religious war, but it does not mean it at all
There is always religious wars, always. Not even within a religion there is peace. Religion is the power of evil.
Shia and Sunni can’t live together, Protestants and Catholic fight always and then the fight between Christian’s and Muslims.
I even have personal experience of fanatic violent Buddhist fight against peace in Sri Lanka. 🤯
Religion should be forbidden.
@@bokhans This fact is not true
Why ?
As far as I know, Turkey has problems with all its neighbors. Also, with the help of the Republic of Azerbaijan, it has called for tensions between the Turkish minority in Iran and the central government.
He has repeatedly accused Iran of providing military assistance to Armenia
Armenia and Iran have good relations, although Azerbaijan, for example, is Shiite and has the same religion as Iran but they are Turk ethnic and near Turkish
Erdogan also has a problem with Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian president !!!!
There is still 3000 Turkish villagers are absent who were tortured and killed by EOKA. WE will never forget it. Everybody now lives in peace on Cyprus after Turkish Peace Opertion. Emperialists try to divide everycountry for colonising them easily... why do they want to unite Cyprus... is it to kill all Turks and finish the work of EOKA?
And what colour is the sky in this fantasy world of yours?
@@bokhans fight for resources is putting the garb of religion. Even you ban the religion fight goes on
how is there still electricity in that building for him to take the lift up?
Congratulation perfect story
Love DW documentaries
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@@DWDocumentary You should make subtitles available in various languages!!!
@@DWDocumentary you guys get banned in turkey
Quoted from Wikipedia, "In 1915, Britain offered Cyprus to Constantine I of Greece on condition that Greece join the war on the side of the British, which he declined." We can see how one person could screw up other people's life for a long, long time.
Constantine was married to the sister of the german emperor you think he is gonna betray that relation in the middle of a great war?
Well Britain had no right to make such an offer.
True dat.
There was a lot more attachements with the British offer.
No, Britain's proposal was that Greece joins the war, gives Thrace to Bulgaria to have them join the war too and MAYBE they'd get Cyprus. You don't give up land based on a "maybe"
On the Greek side they are building a road right up to Varosha in hope to re-join Kennedy Avenue from Kapparis back to Varosha. There is hope.
Hope for what? Reunification?
I'd imagine that ship sailed in 2004 when the the two sides with the stamp from the UN brokered a fair deal. The majority on the island didn't want a fair deal and voted no. Apparently they want to completely an utterly dominate the minority group like in the good ol days for them.
Reunification? There is no hope, it won't happen. Best case scenario is no violence between the two sides which has been the case since 1974. Don't fix it if it isn't broken.
No there isn't.
Things haven't been this dire in a long time, even with the communities doing a very small amount of mingling. Greek Cypriots are still taught alternative history in school. The circle continues.
Can we please get a follow up on this story? I have Cypriot ancestry and would like to know where things stand.
North Cyprus ❤❤️🇵🇰 Turkish Cyprus ❤
They should keep the ghost town as a tourist attraction and make a new one meant it for both countries. I want to visit the ghost city.
This is not a strange unique situation that happened only in Cyprus! there are many many countries in the world that are separated and people on both sides are in conflict. but those issues are not highlighted in the media!
The British pitched Turks vs Cyprus during their war with EOKA. We used to live together as friends.
Very refreshing 😌 .. however, it suits the Brits, Americans and the UN, to keep it all divided and rumbling ..
If i invade a part of UK, then 20+ years later i LET back some of the peoples who lived there, but taxes must be paid to my account, how that would be acceptable? This is what the outside peoples can't understand unless they experience it.
Because you are in de facto control of the land. The people returning are doing so of their free will, no one is forcing them.
Makes perfect sense.
I am praying that everyone gets their rightful share back one day!
Not only the Greeks, but the long forgotten Turkish Cypriots too :))
Well they live under Turkish militairy occupation rule and they have the 40%of the land of Cyprus .When the invasion took place Turkish Cypriots were the 18 %of the total population of Cyprus .There is no share at all .They need to be respected as a Minority
@@theodoros. and this is why Turkey will never remove its troops, because of your ideology, no it was not 18%!!!! Most of the north was occupied by Turkish Cypriots anyways, and I wonder why our population declined? Because of your atrocities, murders, looting houses and properties between 63-74 way before Turkey INTERVENED, your just a greek citizen from Athens. Dinosouras
@@Musthecrazygooner You have many mistakes. Yes in 1974 turkishCypriots were 18% of Cyprus population. Before 1974 the north part of Cyprus Republic was inhabited mostly by greekCypriots, 200.000 greekCypriots were ethnic cleanse from there since today. For example Famagusta was a completely greekCypriot city. turkishCypriots population was not declined. during 1963-64 around 400-500 people die from both sides but in 1975 turkey killed 8.000 greekCypriots in 30 days. So greekCypriot population declined. Facts are facts and none can change history.
@@theodoros. Now north Cyprus population is about 330k and south is about 900k.
These are the real numbers now. Turkish Cypriots are about 27% of the total population!
Unless you want to massacre 110k to make it 18% again?
@@marwanarrif well I want peace and I believe that humans are brothers .Turkey should stop sending people from Turkey to change the population of the island .27 %still makes a minority.The majority of the island are Greek Cypriot nowdays as well .I hooe they both live as equal in an Free State of Cyprus .
Cyprus is never going to unify not unless there is a massive fundamental shift , and unless one side or the other is willing to completely subjugate themselves , which will never happen , so the people whose lives are and have been affected will just keep getting their hopes up and being constantly strung along .
Very much one side of the story as usual !
i don't believe there will ever be a solution to Cyprus problem since the demographics on the island change rapidly. Since the Turkish invasion they keep bringing Turk settlers on the occupied North giving them GreekCypriot properties. The settlers don't want reunification. The last decades even the TurkCypriots became a minority in Northern occupied part of the island.
One of Turkey's demands to allow reunification is all these settlers to remain in the island and granted with political rights and citizenship.
What about the thousands of Greeks that settled on the island during British rule. That is when the ethnic cleansing of the Turkish Cypriots began.
@@karimelharayry6477 the thing is that the european cyprus is the only recognised one. that b itself shows who is wrong and who is right. Nobody will ever recognise trnc
@@karimelharayry6477 ohh it does not have to do at all with religion especially in 2022. yes russians and chinese as well as many europeans are doing business in cyprus and many brits retire there. it is also part of the commonwealth. i feel so sorry for turkish cypriots. greece is not a dictatorship like in 1974. the only dictatorship today is this of turkey. sadly but true. there is not reason for turkish army in northern cyprus as if it reunites it will be european union and all their rights covered and guaranteed. now they have no future with their non existing papers
@@karimelharayry6477 Cyprus has 3 languages Greek English and Turkish. And everything should be written in all 3. Plus same thing is happening in scandinavia and i dotnt see u making a fuss about
Southern Cyprus is to blame, they have rejected reunification Northern Cyprus is and will always be Turkish
It doesn’t sit well with me that foreshadowing of money unifies people. Still hope all will be happy anyway.
All the people saying "cyprus is greek/turkish" i see are all either greek or turkish, never cypriot, just thought id point that out
I would want to see British fully annexing the North Cyprus and incorporating into British Overseas Teritories. Of course expelling turkish cypriots back to Turkey would be the right course of action.
... you forget to say that all south Cyprus citizens are angels.
A reunification plan proposed by Annan in 2004 was approved by 65% of Turkish Cypriots, and rejected by 76% of Greek Cypriots .. .
Maybe because the Turkish troops were meant to stay???
@@lamondaforestry Greeks would never allow that and it wouldnt really last in such a situation
@@lamondaforestry They have to stay to forbid your inhuman atrocities and massacres.
@@lamondaforestry how turks can trust to greeks after massacres ?
@@mustafaakkoclar1272 You've been the problem since the very beginning, Ottoman.
Enough Greek whining. They lost the island after refusing the 2004 referendum for the Anan plan.
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The number of separatist regions in Europe is just crazy.
It's not really a separatist region as it is illegally occupied, hence why it is only recognised by Turkey and no other nation.
@@zarathustra8789 I agree with you completely. The number of areas in Europe that's recognise by just a single country is too much. Moldova, Ukraine, Georgia....
@@noblecollins9549 no they are not seperatist, greeks and turks were living there under british control, they took the land from ottomans. so it was turkish land. but after 1960's greeks started to kill turks and wanted to join greece, and turkish cypriots wanted help from turkey.
this is not in europe but in the middle east
Cyprus is not European.Its a part of Turkey and the southern part is occupied by the Greeks.
Looking at this issues one can say that some other big nations are benefiting from their dis-unification, the earlier the better otherwise one keep getting poorer no matter what and the other think their they are richer but not as they think.
Where is the documentary showing the Turkish side to this issue?
To be honest, this is one of the more neutral stances on the issue.
While not perfect, as someone who is pro Turkish on this issue I will claim that this is at the very least decent journalism. In this short video they also spoke of the Turkish and Turkish Cypriot stance, including interviews.
I should also note that they went out of their way to make it very clear that Turkey and Turkish Cypriots want unification. Something that Greek Cypriot nationalists blatantly deny and claim that Cyprus is occupied and that Turkey wants to annex its land area.
It's DW. This is the best they can manage.
Who started the conflict?
Happy say that I am a Turk ne mutlu Türk'üm diyene
Of course, Mr. Lordos should get his property rights, but with all honesty and with full impartiality, I have to say that building that 11-storey ugly structure right on that beautiful beach is tantamount to murder.
So right.. you can have one leg on the sandy beach and the other in the Hotel foyer.. they might as well tear them down and rebuild.. 🙂🙂
Because they are taken and degraded by islamic people whose only have sense for as**ole handwashing and nothing else.
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did anybody see the garage door open in the middle of an abandon town
Return Varosi to UN control as per UN resolution and allow the return of the rightful owners of cypriots to their properties
And what guarantees would the small ethnic minority in the north have that they won't be ethnically cleansed again?
@@williamdavis9562 your being ethnically cleansed by turkey now. It is also the gurantees of turkey, greece and UK that got us here.
@@twistedmuppet2464 Actually I'm not being ethnically cleansed by anyone.
I don't live in a country where minority groups are being slaughtered, I don't live on Cyprus where the majority goes full blast Hitler on small minority groups.
Thanks for your concern though.
@@twistedmuppet2464 its not greece fault
@@williamdavis9562 blah blah blah... ''minority groups are being slaughtered'' just like turkish napalm strikes of 1963?
The average lifespan is only 75 years. Why do we just waste our time here on Earth with war, oppression and domination. Who are we trying to impress? I wish everyone a good life, peace of mind and body.
I thought they were talking about a private home, not some run down apartment building. I would absolutely demolish such abuilding that has been by the seaside for likely well over half a century.
Some clarifications.
1:03 - The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus was established in 1983, not in 1974. After almost a decade without meaningful negotiations they instead proclaimed independence.
4:40 - I should add that Southern Cyprus also 'demonstrates their military strength' on a regular basis. There however, the hand is not extended for a greeting as the Greek Cypriot National Guard is a hub for nationalists that have been taught alternative history.
6:38 - While this irrational train of thought is somewhat understandable in such a situation, it's rather ignorant to think that a Turkish military aircraft would even consider wasting any time, weaponry or ammunition on a civilian vehicle on a public road.
The island should already have been united with the Annan Plan in 2004. Sadly, Greek Cypriots have been systematically taught to hate anything 'Turkish' and they were the only party in the entire process to not accept unification. It's clear Greek Cypriots only want Cyprus for themselves, which is why they are in this situation and will remain so.
Did u just say that u wld demolish someone elses property? What arrogance and why do u think u have a right. Who cares what u wld do with ur usual alterior agendas. Its obvious what ur mentality is as as pro turk and if you had ur way u wld take over the world by force. Many of you are Inhumane tyrants waiting for any opportunity. U are probably not even a real Turkish Cypriot who are like Greek cyoriots and want peace and resolition. So u are totally wrong as we do want to live again with our REAL Cypriot brother who have ebery right too. U have prob been forcefed ur own propaganda.. U prob agree with selling the owners own buildings to any bidders . Karma is real
@@Funksy I read two lines of your gibberish. Please get an education before commenting, it will be far less embarrassing for you.
It's DW, you can't expect any better.
When Germans are able to get their properties back from Czech Republic that will be the day when the Greek Cypriots will get their properties back from Varosha too
i can see the turkish cypriots trapped under turkey with nobody recognising them.. all their diplomas all their certificates passports are useless. and iam so happy for that. we can continue like that if u want
@@apollonmagg4603 based
@@apollonmagg4603 actually turkish cypriots are all eligible for both cypriot and turkish citizenships
@@vaszi101 absolutely. For we give them the right to reunite if they want. We all know this fact.
@@apollonmagg4603 An absurd lie.
Everyone involved already accepted unification in 2004 with the Annan Plan - Everyone except for Greek Cypriots, of course.
It is Greek Cypriots who do not want and blatantly refuse a united Cyprus.
What happens when UN and America can't be bothered. Its mad at this day in age its still like this. I'm surprised the citizens haven't turned on goverment and got together. The resort being totally abandoned is horrible. The amount of money and memories there and its just been left quickly and now you can return to walk about and go to beach like it's normal but you can't stay anywhere? It's very very strange. Hopefully one day get a resolution and not still like this in years to come
But how comes NATO is not fighting for democracy for this Greece people?
Why doesn't DW do a program about what created the division. The violent ethnic cleansing of the co owning Turkish Cypriots by Greek Cypriots in their illegal quest to unite with Greece. Why doesn't DW talk about the plans to unite the island which would have included the return of Varosha but Greek Cypriots rejected all plans for unification.
What about the Turkish Cypriots who lost property in the South? Larnaca Airport is built on Turkish Cypriot land and this is just one example.
Unfortunately the Greek Cypriots have only themselves to blame.
Full of lies. Full of propaganda!
What was the ethnic cleansing tell me exact number, don't try to change the topic.
94% of Cypriots voted for Annexation with Greece. The same you did with Alexandretta after even changing demographically its population. Properties of Turkish? Hahahahahaha hah. The whole North side are settlers who live on properties of greek Cypriots that they stole from. Tell me about the planned invasion in 60s, the staged pogroms in 1955. Tell me how many greeks Cypriots were killed by Turkish as well. You should be very delusional to believe that Greeks Cypriots are some messiah who would unite with peple who are much poorer, much less educated.
what’s up with this guys T-shirt 10:30
Varosha should be opened up to benefit both communities. And it's true that the Greek Cypriot politicians will not agree to anything.
A few errors of fact.
It is not true that many Greek Cypriots do not cross over to the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. In the pre-covid 2019, there were 1,776,343 crossings from the south to the north with many Greek Cypriots enjoying hotels, restaurants and casinos.
Secondly, and crucially, the İmmovable Property Commission was not set up by Turkish Cypriots as reported. it was established by the European Union following a recommendation from the European Court of human rights. To date, it has paid out GBP 330 million compensation to Greek Cypriots. The reverse is not the case. The Greek Cypriot authorities refuse pay any compensation to Turkish Cypriots for land which was left behind in the South "until the Cyprus problem is resolved'.
Finally, the report does not mention the fact that the land on which Greek Cypriots had built many of their properties was in fact "stolen property" because this land had belonged to the Islamic charitable trust Evkaf for, in some cases, hundreds of years before it was misappropriated by the British when they had Cyprus as their colony, and reassigned to Greek Cypriots illegally.
This report is anti-Turkish. İt says nothing about the land and property lost by Turkish Cypriots, not only after 1974, but also between 1963-74 when they were attacked and driven out of 103 villages, and the suffering that ensued.
my house in limmasol was left to crumble .the island will never be united ,it was tried ,but the greek cypriots always vote against it at the last moment.
It's DW. One-sidedness is their signature style.
They forgot us..This page of histoey is forgotten.... 😒
Johnny Harris made a 4 part UA-cam documentary on the cypress situation reasontly, quite interesting also.
Its not good.
@@imienazwisko4219 in what way ????
@@larsstougaard7097 Very very one sided and biased. He is portraying the north cyprus as a haunted house
@@nonamenoname2767 he is portraying North Cyprus like an annexed part of turkey which actually is.
@@lamondaforestrywhat about Annexed part of south of cyprus to greece and european union ? As if it is different?
Now it is turns out that the future of mankind is up to whether the peace is in the hands of people or the hands of politicians...the history tells that people live to hand over their lives to politicians..!!!
He talks just about a house? ASK HIM WHERE IS 3000 TURKS whose mass grave has not even been found?
You can find them next to the missing Greek Cypriots
Why? Did he kill them? Punishing people who did nothing wrong is wrong period. Why doesn't Turkey just sue for restitution or is that not allowed for some reason? I'm asking seriously so spare me any trolling 🤔
@@allaboutandrea4419 ok ok now lets talk about the greeks of asia minor were are they ? 700:000 dead for no f reason
@@latinbrotherhood495 No clue you'd have to find whomever killed them and ask. Hope they get caught though. All perpetrators of genocide should be held accountable.
3.000??? The missing persons after the invasion in 1974 are 1,510 were Greek Cypriots and the remainder of the missing, 492, were Turkish Cypriots. Turkish propaganda at its finest.
Ever since Lord Byron helped mainland Greeks rediscover themselves as the golden Greeks of ancient Athens a cleavage started between Turks and Greeks. Whereas Greeks contributed significantly to the Ottoman Empire, it is now all forgotten. Nationalism rewrites history. The result: Turks and Greeks are like olive oil and water. They cannot mix. The days of empire are gone.
Greek national mythology is confused. On the one hand it is ancient Athenian democracy, colonialism. On the other hand Byzantium and dreams of Roman Empire.
Which is true? I think the former. Today's Greece is more like ancient Athens. Ethnically pure, managing dozens of islands (the colonial model).
Greeks came to control Constantinople after the Roman Empire decayed. Over time they shrunk it to just one city. Their minds do not make an empire.
Turks were the true inheritors of Rome. Over time they controlled lands that broke into over two dozen nations. Pax Ottomanica lasted hundreds of years.
While Turks are welcoming 4 million Syrian refugees, Greeks are busy pushing hundreds back. Different mind sets.
Conclusion: Turks can never live under the Greeks because like Israelis and Kurds they are into ethnic purity.
And Greeks can never live under Turks since Lord Byron.
So the best solution is to have them separate. Killings of Turks in Cyprus were commonplace before 1974. Now Turks in Cyprus have peace.
Cannot trust Greeks. Remember the Trojan Horse? It is the same game now.
To the degree Greeks have not found meaning other than the "golden Greeks of Athens" their malaise translates into problems for Turks.
They need to find an identity beyond being a tourist destination for Europeans.
Cyprus needs the security of the Turkish military.
That'd be also a way in which the Turkish government could finally get some euro currency in their reserve. It'd be a drop in the ocean given their crisis, but it'd help them nevertheless.
Save your euros for Greece which has been bankrupt three times over and had to be bailed out by the EU, sell its assets including ports to China and Germany.
@Sorsetti Gommosi, I'd hate to see any government on the planet put a small minority at group of another ethnic cleansing attempt just so they can get a few bucks in the bank..
That would be insanity.
In March 1372, the Catholic Saint Bridget of Sweden embarked for the Holy Land from Naples. ''Once there, Bridget did not omit any of the places the Saviour had sanctified with His presence, and she received many lights, especially on the passion and death of Jesus Christ. God also revealed to her the state of several kingdoms, such as the state of devastation of the kingdom of Cyprus and the imminent fall of the Byzantine Empire. She addressed a letter to the king of Cyprus and his people. To the schismatic Orthodox, she did not hesitate to say, on God's behalf, that they would be delivered to the power of their enemies if they did not submit to the vicar of Christ (the pope) with true humility and sincere love. Considered an ''old fool'', Bridget was not listened to''
It must have been a beautiful city before it was turned into a tourist trap and the high rises were built.
Without the Turkish invasion the whole place would now be a concrete jungle.
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North Cyprus isn't Turkish, North Cyprus is a place that belongs to Cypriots, and Turkey forced them to flee by invading and slaughtering innocents.
You're confusing yourself. It's the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, a de facto independent nation.
Turkey does *not* claim any area of Cyprus, they merely recognize the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.
You also missed the part where Greece tried to assassinate Makarios, the President of Cyprus and installed a puppet government on the island with the sole intension of illegally annexing it. This led to the *legal* invasion of Cyprus by Turkey. I repeat, the United Nation confirmed that Turkey *legally* invaded Cyprus as per the Treaty of Guarantee.
If you wish to paint fingers, either direct them towards Greece, or do so in front of a mirror.
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I wonder why nobody talks about the Turkish villages left on the south side of the island??? 🤔There was a war and now Turkish Cypriots dont have a country. This is the biggest loss while greek Cypriots enjoy EU membership alone
This is how it happened:
On 11 April 1965, Dervis Kavazoglou a Turkish Cypriot, and Costas Mishaoulis a Greek Cypriot were murdered together in their car by T/C members of the terrorist organization (TMT). Below extract from one of the speeches of the late Kavazoglou:
“They have managed to drive the young people of Cyprus, Greeks, and Turks on the mountains to fight and kill each other. Only yesterday they were working together in the workshops, offices, and in the mines, they were plowing the same earth to provide bread for their families”. They have created the myth and the lie that is impossible for the two communities to co-exist in peace. They drove 20 000 Turks out of their homes and put them in places like concentration camps thus putting the base for partition.
@@costaskarseras7876and What have done Sampson and his men and EOKa-b before that? Don't start with all this you did this they did that talk
@@nonamenoname2767 I am an ardent supporter of peace and friendship between the Greek and Turkish people. Back in the 1950s as a young trade unionist, I took part in strikes and demonstrations against the innocent killing of Greek and Turkish Cypriots by both EOKA and TMT.
Below, is one of my comments: "I would also like to pay tribute to the honorable and humanitarian action of the Turkish army officer Hakki Boratas who save a number of innocent Greek Cypriot lives by stopping and warning Turgut Yenagali "if he walked outside, he would shoot him". Turgut Yenagrali, who said in a TV interview that he had killed Greek Cypriot civilian war prisoners. I hope that one day a united Cyprus will honour this Turkish Officer and any other person who under bestial conditions acted in a humanitarian way." I hope that the above clarifies my attitude towards the democratic people of Turkey.
@@nonamenoname2767 eoka b was against the brittons not against turkishcypriots
You are wrong! The Turkish Cypriots who we have been living relatively peacefully before the Turkish invasion in 1974 are also EU citizens as they have a passport of the Republic of Cyprus. They are today about 100 000. Half of the population of Turkish Cypriots. The other half was brought by Turkey illegally after the invasion to 'justify' its intervention
"Not sure that goodwill be shown by erdogan. If the regime is changed in turkey, then the process could begin."
Palestinian people also have the right to return their occupied lands
Out of 19 proposed solutions the Greek Cypriot administration has refused 17 with the Turkish Cypriot administration saying no to 2 proposals this shows that the Greek Cypriot administration is only interested in a full take over over the island
Cyprus is Greek
That is largely because those proposed solutions did not include the withdrawal of the Turkish occupying army. So, what's the point to pretend offering solutions, if Turkey is not willing to end the occupation?
It's a sad story but let's face it. Lordos primarily wants to build more hotels and make more money. It's a sad story but Cyprus is full of Lordos hotels and we are an island that needs to rely less on tourism, not more.
Lordos can do whatever he wants with his properties... as long as there is justice. That is the point
There are many points missed here and not mentioned.In 1960 Geneva agreement,agreed by all and signed,the were 3 guarantors put there to look after the freedom of he island and above all sovereignty and identity.Those guarantors were Turkey,Greece and Britain.In 1974,you had a Greek Coup on the island,the second guarantor invaded to,so they say,to take cars of the TCS there and the third,Britain,did sweet fa.The troubles in 1974 started in July and ended at the end of August.The Junta collapsed in Greece and democracy restored in Greece but the Turks,as a guarantor,stayed,occupied and later settled with many Turks,who are now more than the TCS.What wonderful guarantors.Every time there has been an effort to have a settlement on the island it has always been scuttled by Turkey.To understand the situation better,Turkey today is disputing 152 Greek Islands,Including Rhodes,Mytilini,Kos,including even Crete.The arrogance of that country has no bounds.Greece is now on the brink of war with Turkey because of that and i can't say i blame her.The same in Cyprus,Turkey now controls the north part and has taken away even the control from the TCS.The latest news is that Turkey has sent 200 police to the north,to control TCS,who are now against Turkeys control in the area that was there.The Turks daily are insulting,provoking and threatening the GCS.You will not get a solution on the island unless its achieved by the Cypriots themselves.Turkey must let go of her control and let the Cypriots sort out an agreement.She behaves now as if north Cyprus belongs to her.IT DOES NOT.Even the TCS leader elected recently won by Turkey fixing the vote so he could win by bribing voters,settlers,with 500 euros.Until recently that leader was a wanted man in the UK.That is the latest situation on the island and in my view the GCS are doing their best to reunite the island but the problem is Turkey.One of the guarantors of the freedom of the island is doing anything but.On the GCS roc,the legally recognised entity,has even voted a TC Niyazi Kizikurec as an MEP.They are moving forward but always Turkey causes problem.Cyprus is for the Cypriot people,not Turkey not Greece.Greece does not control the GCS.The day Turkey does that will be a step in the right direction.There is absolutely no law in the world that gives peoples property to others it does not belong to.Varosha is Cypriot and not there to be taken over by an authority not recognised by anyone or a people who do not exist,trnc,my backside.Even the trnc boys remember that they are Cypriot when oil and gas is found in the south.All of a sudden the so called trnc wants whats in the south.That is the kind of low life Cypriots are dealing with.There is your problem.I can invade and take 40% of what belongs to you but i still want 50% whats yours.In my life i have always seen bullies and crooks getting their comuppance.Their day will come and soon i hope.
andreas lordos...
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All the time there is a single Turkish soldier, any of the 200,00 forced Turkish migrants and their descendants on the island there will be no re-unification.
Funny, what about the turkish cypriot owned land and property in the south?