Is Suicide Squad REALLY a Batman Arkhamverse Game?

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  • @Enigma75614
    @Enigma75614 10 місяців тому +3762

    We all know that the reason they set it in the Arkham universe is because no one would be interested in the game otherwise.

    • @ashcraft257
      @ashcraft257 10 місяців тому +38

      That is kind of just ignorant just to say. If it was “another” version again it is just as the same if it was another Batman. Still had his parents die having him build the batfamily, him joining the justice league again really look how much it is just having it as another Batman. Because it would just be the same feeling.

    • @JKZ0000ME
      @JKZ0000ME 10 місяців тому +154

      @@ashcraft257that’s because it’s literally the main story to all versions of Batman

    • @ashcraft257
      @ashcraft257 10 місяців тому +1

      @@JKZ0000ME Ok, so same experiences in some way so same fucking outcome, the only difference is that these are games.

    • @JKZ0000ME
      @JKZ0000ME 10 місяців тому +84

      @@ashcraft257 it’s not the same ending for every Batman

    • @ashcraft257
      @ashcraft257 10 місяців тому +2

      @@JKZ0000ME That isn’t what I said and you know it. Again if it the same experience same outcome of becoming Batman, all of this that makes him Batman. It would just be the same even if it was Arkhamverse. Again he is another Batman we love this version because it means a lot to us. That I understand but just ask yourself. If it is Batman and this game came out it would still be the same thing. Again this version of Batman is done with for all we know we are getting better games. And a new universe which Gunn is most likely trying to do.

  • @NumaxNinja
    @NumaxNinja 10 місяців тому +2604

    Daily reminder: Arkham Batman appeared in the comics, where he is still active in Gotham, I go with that timeline for canon😂

    • @HOTD108_
      @HOTD108_ 10 місяців тому +27

      The Arkham tie-in comics aren't canon...

    • @SeMetin
      @SeMetin 10 місяців тому +269

      ​@@HOTD108_he actually had a Cameo in the main DC universe.

    • @generalj216
      @generalj216 10 місяців тому +279

      @@HOTD108_they have more right to be called canon than this garbage game

    • @jorgyt754
      @jorgyt754 10 місяців тому +44

      @@generalj216 ...uh, yeah, because the main dc comics are literally the batman canon

    • @BatMan362100
      @BatMan362100 10 місяців тому +50

      You know, we all have our own opinions when it comes to what and what is not cannon, aside from what others say.
      In my opinion Arkham ended with Knight and it's DLCs, it was a good sendoff to a series of games that have been so good, bordering on perfect.

  • @bl4aze304
    @bl4aze304 10 місяців тому +1508

    I hate how every versión of Harvey quinn after the sucide squad (2016) just become a margot Robbie rip-off, even if the character was pretty different before

    • @applehazeva2739
      @applehazeva2739 9 місяців тому +128

      finally someone said it

    • @da-vidcargill4975
      @da-vidcargill4975 9 місяців тому

      not her faukt thought studios just love to milk things to much

    • @49Shadow
      @49Shadow 8 місяців тому +69

      Overrated character in DC Woman Villain, even she hasn't have any power geezz...

    • @jmd9402
      @jmd9402 8 місяців тому +52

      Seriously, it's driving me insane.

    • @Lingerminator
      @Lingerminator 7 місяців тому

      Its called sociopolitical retcon and you are a "bigoted sexist nazi" for not liking their changing it.

  • @gabrielohim154
    @gabrielohim154 10 місяців тому +714

    SSKTJL writers literally making up a Deadshot from an alternate universe where literally fucking nothing is different but his skin color instead of just not changing his fucking skin color

    • @jobt1999
      @jobt1999 10 місяців тому +113

      Thanks to sweet baby inc's blackwashing

    • @CenoriaWoah
      @CenoriaWoah 10 місяців тому +84

      @@jobt1999 No Deadshot fan cares if they make him black. So what? We just didn’t want him to have the personality of Will Smith, as opposed to Floyd. The Suicide Squad 2016 movie is at fault here. This character has NOTHING the comic version had, and not even anything from the Arkham movie.
      They could have just made him black and been upfront about the silly retcon. But no, they had to ruin his character. 😄😄🔫

    • @omega6749
      @omega6749 10 місяців тому +72

      Couldn't Rocksteady have thought of something more simple if they really wanted a retcon? You know, something like "the original Deadshot in Origins/City either died or retired and this new guy is a legacy character". The whole alternate universe stuff is too complicated for something really trivial.

    • @sebthelobster
      @sebthelobster 8 місяців тому +3

      It’s that important to them

    • @hunts4209
      @hunts4209 6 місяців тому +15

      Couldn't they just use bloodsport? I mean harley quinn already fills the batman antagonist role.

  • @Darren-lb3rx
    @Darren-lb3rx 10 місяців тому +401

    “Continuation of the Arkham verse”
    *disrespects Arkham batman*

    • @kaistemino
      @kaistemino 4 місяці тому +3

      The justice league got the sams raimi's spider-man 2 treatment

    • @darthvulpes3069
      @darthvulpes3069 4 місяці тому +4

      @@kaistemino do you mean 3? because 2 is a masterpiece the raimi trilogy was the blueprint for ALL superhero films before iron man or dark knight were even concepts.

    • @2301WAYNE
      @2301WAYNE 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@darthvulpes3069For Me Batman Returns is still the best live-adaptation out there Batman Begins is the best in the trilogy.

    • @supersmashbro596
      @supersmashbro596 Місяць тому

      that's not batman they're disrespecting.
      do you SERIOUSLY think they are fighting the real justice league in this game?
      theres strong evidence showing that the justice league shown was not the true league, but clones made by brainiac. the real league (including batman) are still being held by brainiac, i'd wager.
      like, for real. comics do this trick. all the time. yes. even with batman.
      ok i'm not defending this, but neither am i sitting there going "hum... yes... that sure is the real arkhamverse batman they are fighting and not some kind of clone."
      i mean if this was the real league dc and warner brothers would have a fit.

  • @Enigma75614
    @Enigma75614 10 місяців тому +1347

    It’s very telling that Sefton Hill and Jamie Walker left Rocksteady and formed a new studio before this game released. There was very clearly a power struggle at the studio, and they unfortunately lost.

    • @theinsurance2450
      @theinsurance2450 10 місяців тому +122

      That because Greedy out of touch WB wanted to jump on the shooter game market. But what they didn't realize is they tried to mix chocolate with sour cream. Great on their own but together it don't mix. You can't force a mix. You can't force superhero theme in shooters it just doesn't work.

    • @jinxact532
      @jinxact532 10 місяців тому +21

      ​@@theinsurance2450sefton hill wrote this games story he also helped lead it most of the OG Arkham team made this game which makes me wonder why they all quit before it was supposed to launch originally they started Development of the game 7 years ago

    • @Carlisle-mn3fv
      @Carlisle-mn3fv 10 місяців тому +39

      @@theinsurance2450WB are bleeding money because of all their failed dc films (literally losing them hundreds of millions) and the thought that turning their games into live service GAAS games would save them but it just made things worse lmfao

    • @megatron2171
      @megatron2171 10 місяців тому +8

      WB probably aimed their guns on both their heads lol

    • @whosDaBun
      @whosDaBun 10 місяців тому +2

      it’s even more telling that Sefton Hill is the only and lead story creator lmfao cope harder

  • @freddyandfoxy7526
    @freddyandfoxy7526 10 місяців тому +1267

    I wish the Rocksteady original game developers didn't leave.

    • @killuafanboy3812
      @killuafanboy3812 10 місяців тому +78

      Maybe it was a good thing.

    • @leeli4692
      @leeli4692 10 місяців тому +17

      ​@@killuafanboy3812 For real

    • @IstoletwotrilliondollarsCIA
      @IstoletwotrilliondollarsCIA 10 місяців тому +47

      I hope the originals make more great games in the new studio

    • @SniperKing-O
      @SniperKing-O 10 місяців тому +20

      Imagine if they were the ones who made Gotham Knights or even a Arkham Batman Beyond game. 😢

    • @killuafanboy3812
      @killuafanboy3812 10 місяців тому +10

      @SniperKing-O I like Gotham Knights. Made a vid on it. Also talked a bit about my thoughts on Suicide squad. It looks like a game I might enjoy cause I love fighting bad guys in pretty much any game, but I don't like how they ended Batman.

  • @budemawa411
    @budemawa411 10 місяців тому +408

    Original creators had little control over this project and such is not "canon" to me, these days when corporations "buy" the rights and then wear these properties like skin suits destroying themes, writing, and continuity while saying this is connected to a story that's already loved, we need to just start ignoring these entries and simply state: We know you "own the rights" but we simply do not care.

    • @LB-hr9vu
      @LB-hr9vu 10 місяців тому +3

      were it so easy.

    • @Bman32x
      @Bman32x 9 місяців тому +6

      Best & most honest explanation so far.

    • @eagleone0one
      @eagleone0one 6 місяців тому +5

      That's exactly how I feel about the Fallout series and Bethesda. To me, Fallout will never be theirs, no matter what they say or do - the last Fallout was New Vegas. The original Fallout universe is simply too different from the games that characterize Bethesda's identity - this is why they made Fallout 3, 4, and 76 as they did. These are shooter-action titles, not real roleplaying games.

    • @DetectiveCam
      @DetectiveCam 4 місяці тому

      @@eagleone0oneand Star Wars goes without saying to w

    • @RM-cn8pw
      @RM-cn8pw 4 місяці тому

      @@Bman32xThis was neither of those things though

  • @WampingHere
    @WampingHere 10 місяців тому +99

    This will NEVER be canon, or at least I refuse to be believe it’s apart of the Arkham verse. These devs out here really be thinkin they can get away with disrespecting my boy Arkham Batman. I believe this game takes place in its own universe, in the same way the Batman movie starring Robert Pattinson takes place in its own continuity.

  • @c4d179
    @c4d179 10 місяців тому +80

    People, why hasn't anyone ever said that Captain Boomerang is dead too?! If you don't believe me, read Batman: Arkham Knight #22 (page 19). This comic book series tells what happened in Gotham before the events of the game Arkham Knight.

    • @hurricane7727
      @hurricane7727 10 місяців тому +4

      Different Parallel Universe!

    • @Buff_tf2_soldier
      @Buff_tf2_soldier 4 місяці тому +8

      ​@@hurricane7727he also died in assult on arkham

    • @FictionRaider007
      @FictionRaider007 Місяць тому +1

      @@Buff_tf2_soldier You must be misremembering because Boomerang is one of the few who is clearly very much alive at the end of that movie. He's last seen cursing Deadshot for escaping Arkham in a helicopter without him.

  • @hubdweller9969
    @hubdweller9969 10 місяців тому +335

    Here’s one you might have missed: the Injustice Gang is mentioned in a Magazine in Arkham City-implying that the Justice League *was* around during the events of the Arkham Trilogy, regardless of what Rocksteady wants to claim.

    • @johannprei33
      @johannprei33 10 місяців тому +15

      Really? That's interesting?

    • @gabrielvelosa2597
      @gabrielvelosa2597 10 місяців тому +41

      It's Quadrilogy, please remember Batman Arkham Origins for fucking please

    • @JigenDaisuke-wh2nd
      @JigenDaisuke-wh2nd 10 місяців тому

      no
      @@gabrielvelosa2597

    • @Jrivera4905
      @Jrivera4905 10 місяців тому

      @@gabrielvelosa2597 triolgy?

    • @fireheat3246
      @fireheat3246 10 місяців тому +3

      @@gabrielvelosa2597 origins is about a past, not about the arkham current timeline.

  • @Elnegro..
    @Elnegro.. 10 місяців тому +432

    Black deadshot,
    penguin has a green glass in his eye instead of white (* for reference someone got mad and shoved a beer bottle in penguins eye which is white bot green) so they want you to belive penguin had it removed and replaced with a green one haha,
    Harley queen and ivy when that was never a thing in arkham,
    Harley queen having issues doing things to kids when in Canon of arkham she did many things that hurt kids such as drugging them with drugs and jokers blood
    Harley knowing how to make fear toxin when scarecrow would never let her know how to do so, as in Canon he offs anyone who knows anything about it.
    Tfx tanking fear toxin like they got a little drink when it had batman on his knees in asylum and knight.
    And much more.

    • @Elnegro..
      @Elnegro.. 10 місяців тому +86

      Also Harleys old outfits are made fun of by Harley and tfx when she literally made said outfits herself because she liked the style, as opposed to the implication of it being forced on her.

    • @SeanWheeler100
      @SeanWheeler100 10 місяців тому +54

      @@Elnegro.. Clearly the Harley Quinn in Kill the Justice League was based more on recent incarnations of the character such as Margot Robbie's version and the animated version than the Arkham Harley.

    • @Elnegro..
      @Elnegro.. 10 місяців тому +55

      @@SeanWheeler100 Yeah, they run with the "popular" Harley over the canonical Harley.
      A "popular" Harley who I honestly don't even think is popular, only popular in the social justice woman power circles aka Hollywood.

    • @margarethmichelina5146
      @margarethmichelina5146 10 місяців тому +39

      I think the new developers just watched Harley Quinn Tv Show on HBO and see how Harley and Ivy are couple and just make it canon and put it in the game.
      Even though throughout in Arkham games:
      -Asylum: Harley and Ivy only interract once when Ivy begs Harley to get out of her cell anddd that's it
      -City: Harley is busy taking care of sick Joker and Ivy is having a beef with Selina / Catwoman
      -Origins: Ivy isn't on this game but Harley who was still Harleen met Joker at first time
      -Knight: Harley is still grieving over the Joker's death and has her own gang while Ivy eventually helps Batman and sacrifice herself for Gotham

    • @Elnegro..
      @Elnegro.. 10 місяців тому +25

      @@margarethmichelina5146 Forgot to mention Harley and her gang were trying to bring back joker, and she's so desperate she poisoned a old man with jokers blood and was all over him like cotton candy.

  • @olofman300
    @olofman300 10 місяців тому +3096

    The game is not canon! Great video btw

    • @bensxbd
      @bensxbd 10 місяців тому +80

      Copium. But it definitely shouldn’t be

    • @nemesisprime4501
      @nemesisprime4501 10 місяців тому +173

      Definitely not canon. And it doesn't matter what rocksteady says, because they made alot of inconsistencies with it

    • @fredricotraversiere8868
      @fredricotraversiere8868 10 місяців тому +16

      yes it Canon ok

    • @gabemyers4516
      @gabemyers4516 10 місяців тому +84

      The original Arkham devs didn’t make it so it really can’t be

    • @NotTemptation
      @NotTemptation 10 місяців тому +6

      It is canon

  • @soupermoviecritic8511
    @soupermoviecritic8511 10 місяців тому +62

    That’s because the original Rocksteady team left after Arkham Knight and the new team never bothered to do any research.

  • @lucasvincent3021
    @lucasvincent3021 9 місяців тому +24

    This game is an embarrassment to the arkhamverse and a complete disrespect to Kevin conroy’s batman may he rest in peace

    • @Gabe-h9y
      @Gabe-h9y 25 днів тому +3

      You're right. But I do appreciate the end credits scene (given, it shouldn't have even happened to begin with, but regardless it did unfortunately). The fact that they gave him such a bad ending was - still is disappointing. But that Kevin Conroy tribute does mean a lot. Whether it was a clone or not, it shouldn't have went down like that.

  • @GrimReaper.123
    @GrimReaper.123 10 місяців тому +193

    I am actually surprised by how much detail this video actually goes into. Absolutely fire video

  • @WithcherKnight1307
    @WithcherKnight1307 10 місяців тому +373

    You do realize Amanda waller gets shot by deadshot and killed in that same animated movie and now is back to life

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 10 місяців тому +22

      He aimed at her never took the shot

    • @Zhello79
      @Zhello79 10 місяців тому +37

      She didn't die tho. Deadshot was going to shoot her, but it was later stated Batman intervened. Waller is also mentioned later on too.

    • @WithcherKnight1307
      @WithcherKnight1307 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Zhello79 where?

    • @Zhello79
      @Zhello79 10 місяців тому +26

      @@WithcherKnight1307 ● Deadshot said: "Bang" aloud, before he smiled, which implied that he was going to shoot Waller. However, as later confirmed by Deadshot, Batman intervened and prevented him from assassinating Waller.
      Waller was the one who played a role to get Deadshot even getting into Arkham City alongside Hugo Strange. She pretty much wanted to get Deadshot back into Task Force X, granted he was out for a long time.

    • @WithcherKnight1307
      @WithcherKnight1307 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Zhello79 I understand

  • @LibertyBridgeProductions
    @LibertyBridgeProductions 10 місяців тому +539

    U can basically say whether ‘Assault on Arkham’ or ‘Kill the Justice League’ is your preferred canon to the Arkhamverse.

    • @generalj216
      @generalj216 10 місяців тому +151

      Assault on Arkham every time

    • @l0sts0ul89
      @l0sts0ul89 10 місяців тому +24

      ​@@generalj216 I actually like King Shark in KTJL and the Assault on Akrahm one is way too weird, but that's my only criticism

    • @spaceman9396
      @spaceman9396 10 місяців тому +36

      No. One is canon. One isn't. You know which one isn't.

    • @rdowg
      @rdowg 10 місяців тому +13

      ​@l0sts0ul89 no matter how much hate KTJL gets, king shark and boomerang are pretty spot-on

    • @Zhello79
      @Zhello79 10 місяців тому +39

      What is weird is Rocksteady retcon'd Assault on Arkham but the Riddler in SSKTJL made a small reference to it. Not to mention Cobblepot mentioned the other King Shark.

  • @ichadpromax
    @ichadpromax 10 місяців тому +27

    Now you made me scared of a Sinister Six: Kill the Avengers type game after bringing up Miles Morales

    • @omega6749
      @omega6749 10 місяців тому +9

      *Thunderbolts: Kill the Avengers

    • @syedshamrezrehanshahkazmi3324
      @syedshamrezrehanshahkazmi3324 Місяць тому

      @@omega6749 Yeah that's more accurate except the ThunderBolts are actually more dangerous and could realistically do that although I hate the thought anyways.

  • @justin_c_4202
    @justin_c_4202 10 місяців тому +34

    Harley's jiggle physics in Asylum were peak.

    • @justin_c_4202
      @justin_c_4202 10 місяців тому +3

      @@fredbear666shyam9 no, I just woke up.

    • @buffsniper
      @buffsniper 9 місяців тому +5

      ​@@fredbear666shyam9No lies detected tho-

  • @Z3r0_L1f3
    @Z3r0_L1f3 10 місяців тому +70

    You forgot to mention White Deadshot has a daughter himself. So, even if it was canon there would be to Zoes

  • @AthelstansSuccessor
    @AthelstansSuccessor 10 місяців тому +240

    What a disaster of a game, i have zero enthusiasm to even watch a gameplay of this game on yt. The Arkham franchise ended with knight, plain and simple!!

    • @Wizardjones69
      @Wizardjones69 10 місяців тому +4

      more like the arkham verse ended with city lol

    • @Gaku1k
      @Gaku1k 10 місяців тому +2

      @@Wizardjones69what? Why

    • @Wizardjones69
      @Wizardjones69 10 місяців тому +6

      @@Gaku1k the story of knight still pretty bad, the story of the arkham verse pretty much can end after joker dies in city

    • @Gaku1k
      @Gaku1k 10 місяців тому +22

      @@Wizardjones69 in your opinion

    • @AthelstansSuccessor
      @AthelstansSuccessor 10 місяців тому +44

      ​@@Wizardjones69 knight had its flaws and could've been better for sure but atleast it respected batman and the rest of the characters. Not to mention the graphics are ridiculously good even 9 over years on.

  • @big-loss_9043
    @big-loss_9043 10 місяців тому +134

    People called assault on Arkham non canon yet this damn game is ....cap

    • @robogreek3157
      @robogreek3157 10 місяців тому +7

      What is cap?

    • @JKZ0000ME
      @JKZ0000ME 10 місяців тому +16

      @@robogreek3157it’s slang for not true

    • @heathclips4066
      @heathclips4066 9 місяців тому

      cause assault on arkham is such a shid movie

    • @JKZ0000ME
      @JKZ0000ME 9 місяців тому

      this game is too@@heathclips4066

    • @krizztream69420
      @krizztream69420 9 місяців тому +4

      Assault on Arkham did a good job in being true to its source by having the Asylum setting accurate to the game

  • @Shane_saw667
    @Shane_saw667 6 місяців тому +53

    Batman Arkham knight was a love letter to Batman Arkham fans, and suicide squad kill the justice league is a break up letter to Batman Arkham fans

  • @amyrodgers4252
    @amyrodgers4252 5 місяців тому +20

    Another inconsistency with Harley was that it was heavily implied that she and Ivy were a couple. But it doesn't make sense at all, because Ivy died in Arkham Knight and in that game, Harley was very clearly still grieving and obsessing over the Joker, there were no hints or implications that they were together, even after Ivy died. So, when could they have possibly gotten together??

    • @DanteDMCrules
      @DanteDMCrules 3 місяці тому +1

      also the fact ivy is now a child in this one?

    • @amyrodgers4252
      @amyrodgers4252 3 місяці тому +7

      @@DanteDMCrules i think it was explained or heavily implied that Ivy was reborn after her death, which is why she's a kid, but honestly, they should have stuck to her being dead.

  • @NaturesWrath
    @NaturesWrath 10 місяців тому +88

    I like how Batman actually used his disruptor in the first encounter where he one shot everyone, but then just went "no, i don't think i will" in the actual boss fight.

  • @MaigenMaylight
    @MaigenMaylight 10 місяців тому +136

    Can I just say that a Legion of Doom: Kill the Justice League would've been a far more interesting premise? You could still have Brainiac as the endgame villain, but it'd make sense for the people to kill the Justice League to be their respective arch-nemeses.
    I'd set it outside the Arkham-verse so you could bring back Joker as well.

    • @smitty_werben_jagerman_jensen
      @smitty_werben_jagerman_jensen 10 місяців тому +30

      This actually would work better since its got all the Justice Leagues arch nemesis, seeing as though they know their weaknesses

    • @l0sts0ul89
      @l0sts0ul89 10 місяців тому +20

      ​@@smitty_werben_jagerman_jensen
      Yeah just imagine playing as Death Stroke or even Metallo, we could keep Boomerang or switch him with Captain Cold, I actually liked King Shark so maybe add Aquaman as a boss.

    • @gameover9390
      @gameover9390 10 місяців тому +16

      The Injustice Gang had a Easter Egg all the way back in Arkham Asylum, and add in prometheus as a major lead role in the game and Rocksteady would have gone full circle with the Arkham Games. Though if you ask me, I would’ve had the Main Characters be the Titans, it just works the best thematic and story-wise, it adds a huge emotional conflict for our leads as they have to take on and potentially kill their Mentors.
      Plus this concept alone reminds a lot of the young justice s1 finale, especially the bit where Robin and Superboy switch targets as they can’t beat their respective Mentors 1 on 1.

    • @johannprei33
      @johannprei33 10 місяців тому +7

      I agree strongly. Suicide Squad should still be a game, just not against the Justice League.

    • @omega6749
      @omega6749 10 місяців тому +6

      How about a "Suicide Squad: Kill the Crime Syndicate"? So the Squad can fight something akin to the Justice League without killing the beloved characters. Maybe they can have Brainiac pulling the strings from behind and the true League coming in aid of the Squad. Not saying that it would be automatically a better game, but definitely a less controversial one.

  • @mainly_moussa
    @mainly_moussa 10 місяців тому +373

    It feels refreshing seeing actual criticism, not just some dumb hate

    • @Jungleali
      @Jungleali 10 місяців тому +5

      Word

    • @Hawk-yq4ln
      @Hawk-yq4ln 9 місяців тому +11

      @CJD_XAnd if they do? You ain’t finna do shh as far as I’m concerned.
      The gameplay is repetitive sure, but there’s comedic moments..
      You can’t literally hate every moment about this game.
      If you do, I won’t stop you, I can’t control anybody..
      But don’t ruin that for anyone else else because of your own feelings about a simple game

    • @maxanderson3733
      @maxanderson3733 9 місяців тому +3

      Agreed it’s a great change of pace

    • @John.Wick999
      @John.Wick999 9 місяців тому +8

      ​@@Hawk-yq4lnif a comment on UA-cam ruins a game for someone's that's there problem bro

  • @moyassermohammed7516
    @moyassermohammed7516 10 місяців тому +11

    I like to think that Brainiac is keeping the JL in his ship and made clones of them and put their memories inside of them because they're a valuable asset to conquer the multiverse, and Batman's brain somehow didn't transfer well to the clone due to the Fear Toxins in his brain, that's my head canon

  • @GildedLimbo
    @GildedLimbo 9 місяців тому +7

    This game would be great to be in the Injustice universe imo. It would help with a lot of the inconsistenties, their plot armour for example, there was a pill that let regular people take on superman level powers. There's even the multiverse already established in that series, it could have helped hype up the 3rd Injustice (if it's confirmed, I haven't been keeping too up with it).
    Not to mention, the Arkham-verse wouldn't be so disrespected.

  • @therealedboi
    @therealedboi 10 місяців тому +43

    To add onto your Batman point, Batman directly says in Arkham City that "facing armed thugs head on is suicide. I need to conceal myself, plan out my strategy." When he first goes to the church and YEETS Harley Quinn with ease. Batman is beyond genius level, and Suicide Squad Batman with fear toxin, still for some reason decides to face armed thugs head on. Either an absolute destruction of Batman's intelligence while OK WITH KILLING, or this is another universe that has no connection to Arkham.

  • @Odeio_Pobre
    @Odeio_Pobre 10 місяців тому +134

    I had also noticed these inconsistencies and found it strange, but what probably happened was just that they didn't know or didn't remember these small details, since no one who made Arkhamverse participated in this game

    • @Enigma75614
      @Enigma75614 10 місяців тому +17

      The writers probably didn’t even notice the inconsistencies.

    • @mobgabriel1767
      @mobgabriel1767 10 місяців тому +14

      No one who ever heard of the arkhamverse made this game*

    • @bigtone7824
      @bigtone7824 10 місяців тому +13

      Being writers their main job is to know what they are writing about, it's a joke 😂

    • @robogreek3157
      @robogreek3157 10 місяців тому +2

      And it's a video game...some changes are made for gameplay... like batman getting the grapnel boost in arkham city...yet he has it in arkham origins

    • @DOOMFIST___1
      @DOOMFIST___1 10 місяців тому

      @@robogreek3157thank you

  • @eagleattack5055
    @eagleattack5055 10 місяців тому +131

    This game is 100% not canon, but something i just realized is that the squad needed some sort of gadgets to take out each member, and early on we see them get taken out by batman in one fell swoop via predator style combat. It would have been cool if they showed batman use the disrupter on their guns the first time, to show that they need to upgrade their weapons to be able to resist batmans tampering, and have the "boss fight" just be them resisting the fear toxin like batman did with scarecrow to then have a predetor style rematch against batman, this time with their guns and gadgets. I dont like the story but this would have made it a little more fun.

    • @urkelbot2099
      @urkelbot2099 10 місяців тому

      that’s essentially what happened in the game minus the actual use of the disruptor🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @eagleattack5055
      @eagleattack5055 10 місяців тому +7

      @@urkelbot2099 in the first encounter they can use weapons just not the travel gadgets and the fight in itself is just batman using fear toxin, and them avoiding batmans predator-esque takedowns to change the toxin. Then just bullet sponge batman and they win. What i mean is that in the first encounter they show off batman using the disruptor to take away all of their gear and being wrecked by him (similar but they literally have nothing) and the boss starts with the bullet sponge and the second phase is them actually fighting back against batman as he tries to do predators style takedowns, this time being more difficult since they have weapons now that cant be disrupted...heck and maybe even add like gizmo chiming in to help them find batman like how in AK he can be tracked with detective mode idk.

  • @bedihubmad4881
    @bedihubmad4881 9 місяців тому +10

    Batman beyond :❌
    Stupid squad Kill rocksteady :✅

    • @isaacw.brooks8417
      @isaacw.brooks8417 2 місяці тому +4

      WB did a much similar thing with the now canceled Batman Beyond movie in favor of a Minecraft movie.

  • @MikeSandersonVideos
    @MikeSandersonVideos 2 місяці тому +7

    I'm glad they've made it officially simple to seperate the perfect Arkham series from this mess. It's like the devs did so much damage, it literally cannot be taken seriously as a continuation

  • @mobgabriel1767
    @mobgabriel1767 10 місяців тому +38

    This game manages to contradict its previous material more than TLJ it literally can't be canonical

  • @wajak593
    @wajak593 10 місяців тому +40

    This game was such a disappointment, even Arkham asylum has more steam players than suicide squad.

  • @Official_Ardo
    @Official_Ardo 10 місяців тому +46

    I like GothamPaladin's theory of the game being set on another Earth in the arkham multiverse. As mentioned there are too many inconsistencies to where it is impossible for the world seen in Suicide Squad Kill The Justice League to be the same as the one in the other arkham games. So, it is likely that SSKJL is set on another Earth especially because of the game's whole multiverse gimmick.

    • @Cosmic_62
      @Cosmic_62 10 місяців тому +6

      I think that earth 2 was the original arkhamverse and this one is a clone universe where there's a ton of continuity errors.

    • @altalia07
      @altalia07 10 місяців тому +2

      Yuhh

    • @ibeare6765
      @ibeare6765 10 місяців тому

      Earth 2 is a wasteland in the game. It's the one with redhead luthor.

    • @MikeSandersonVideos
      @MikeSandersonVideos 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Cosmic_62exactly and a universe no one cares for

  • @-RedHood-
    @-RedHood- 10 місяців тому +11

    So, _Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League_ is not set in what almost every fan refers to as "the Arkhamverse" (the main continuity), but an alternate continuity of the _Batman: Arkham_ video game franchise.

  • @Was1Too
    @Was1Too 10 місяців тому +28

    Killer moth’s death might just not be widely known in the world

    • @woodsylightning
      @woodsylightning 10 місяців тому +18

      But you would think Amanda Waller of all people would know he’s dead

    • @Was1Too
      @Was1Too 8 місяців тому +2

      @@woodsylightning what resource of hers would tell her that though? She’s not all knowing, she just has connections to the government and stuff.

    • @Douio
      @Douio 8 місяців тому +8

      ​@@Was1Too it'd be out of character for her to not know

    • @MattStarzingMusic
      @MattStarzingMusic 2 місяці тому +1

      The thugs did say Red Hood, "Took down Killer Moth" but doesn't always mean kill, even if it was Red Hood that did it. If Waller is calling Killer Moth he might be injured but somehow still alive like how Batgirl was in Arkham Knight.

    • @Timmy-mi2ef
      @Timmy-mi2ef 14 днів тому

      ​@@MattStarzingMusic Isnt red food's whole thing putting down peeps

  • @ToxicCatMC
    @ToxicCatMC 10 місяців тому +25

    The best thing they did was change deadshot because now everyone can seperate this reality from the arkhamverse

  • @TheDirtysouthfan
    @TheDirtysouthfan 10 місяців тому +18

    I would say another thing; Batman's resistance to mind control. Batman is known in many different stories to resist and even overcome mind control. He overcomes Talia's and Darkseids mind control, as well as stops Trigons attempts to control him in the DCAU for instance, and in the Arkhamverse he overcomes the Mad Hatter twice, Joker's blood taking him over and the Fear Toxin. It feels very out of character for Barry to be the only one who overcomes the mind control for a little bit. I feel like it would've made way more sense if, after being beaten, he break out of the mind control like Barry did, maybe he doesn't have control over his body, but he tells the Suicide Squad how to beat Superman directly and suggests to use him as bait, killing him before Brainiac could take him back completely.

  • @Legend_096
    @Legend_096 10 місяців тому +65

    I think the writers were high when they wrote the story

    • @davidlewis5312
      @davidlewis5312 10 місяців тому +15

      on paint thinner...

    • @NuhUhBitch777
      @NuhUhBitch777 7 місяців тому

      Well, the original writers for the Arkham Series left Rocksteady, leaving a bunch of inexperienced interns to write and make a “sequel” to a PERFECT series

  • @Revali69420
    @Revali69420 10 місяців тому +7

    also for killer moth, he is beaten up in the second issue of the suicide squad comic, by arkham guards after knight

  • @mihailos8701
    @mihailos8701 10 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for a great video. I haven't played Arkham games yet, but I still was able to tell that SQ KTJL was made as individual game first, and then, for no apparent reason, was glued to the world that it wasn't made for.

  • @SLEO1031
    @SLEO1031 10 місяців тому +35

    Guys Lets Just Give SSKTJL The Pacific Rim Sequel Treatment

  • @dSWISHm
    @dSWISHm 10 місяців тому +148

    How did batman lose to the suicide squad? Is he stupid?

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 10 місяців тому +8

      I mean he loses to guns pretty fast if any get a shot on him in Arkham

    • @dSWISHm
      @dSWISHm 10 місяців тому +6

      @@lightdarksoul2097 yea ik I just said that for the memes.
      But you're also 100% right

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 10 місяців тому +3

      @@dSWISHm still the SS game was dumb since we don't know what really happened a lot like fighting scarecrow. The situation is never clearly defined

    • @dSWISHm
      @dSWISHm 10 місяців тому +1

      @@lightdarksoul2097 well its live service so im sure we'll find out eventually

    • @VegetaLF7
      @VegetaLF7 10 місяців тому +7

      I hate this stupid meme to no end, but this is the one case where I'll allow it because this Batman *is* stupid

  • @Kaution2004
    @Kaution2004 10 місяців тому +37

    Even if the justice league are clones, and they do end up coming back, I really doubt that that’s the case because Kevin Conroy is dead and I doubt that he made additional lines for add-on story after the main game

    • @SeanWheeler100
      @SeanWheeler100 10 місяців тому +5

      They could get Troy Baker to voice Batman in the next Arkham game. His Batman voice in the LEGO games sounded like Conroy to the point where you don't even notice Conroy replacing him in LEGO DC Supervillains.

    • @cameronmcewen9666
      @cameronmcewen9666 10 місяців тому +2

      @@SeanWheeler100Have him voice Batman and the Joker.

    • @juanaguilera804
      @juanaguilera804 10 місяців тому +6

      @@SeanWheeler100 Either that or Roger Craig Smith, the voice actor for Batman in Arkham Origins

    • @nickflaskett257
      @nickflaskett257 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@juanaguilera804Smith would be my pick. I liked his angrier portrayal in Origins, but it would be nice to see him voice an older, more refined Batman

    • @Memedude_L1
      @Memedude_L1 10 місяців тому +2

      Or they could abandon ssktjl and make a sequel to arkham origins set a few months after blackgate and get roger craig smith to do the voice of batman. And this would also give us more info on what batman was doing between the years of origins and asylum

  • @Ericnewnes08
    @Ericnewnes08 14 днів тому +3

    3:26 Rocksteady confirmed that it is a clone of Batman and it was a lot weaker than regular Batman but still they did Batman dirty in this game.

  • @lewisbatchelor-o5k
    @lewisbatchelor-o5k 5 місяців тому +5

    It's definitely one of the elseworlds cuz penguin somehow has hair even through he is bald in arkham knight

  • @john-tobeymaguirecena
    @john-tobeymaguirecena 10 місяців тому +11

    Even then, *Crisis on Two Earths* tells me that there’s at least 100 different ARKHAMVERSE earths, due to different decisions & scenarios. So even if they REALLY wanted to claim it canon, it’s easy to see it as just another earth. Not the Earth of the original Arkham verse

  • @pizzatime4204
    @pizzatime4204 10 місяців тому +22

    Abither thing is that the flash of the arkham verse couldn't be barry allen. In arkham knight the ads relating to him refers to keystone city. Wally west operates and lives in keystone, while barry operates in central city

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 10 місяців тому

      Barry could just be in Keystone

    • @SeanWheeler100
      @SeanWheeler100 10 місяців тому

      Has Barry and Wally been operating as the Flash at the same time? I know Wally was Kid Flash, and after Barry was sucked into the Speedforce, Wally became the Flash. What happened to Wally after Barry came back?

    • @Montesama314
      @Montesama314 10 місяців тому

      ​@@SeanWheeler100In the current comics, Barry and Wally are both running as the Flash, with Wally's cousin Wallace as another Kid Flash.

    • @SeanWheeler100
      @SeanWheeler100 10 місяців тому

      @@Montesama314 There, Barry and Wally are both operating as the Flash. Plot hole closed.

    • @justin_c_4202
      @justin_c_4202 10 місяців тому

      No, Wally isn't the Flash of this universe. He's the Flash on Earth 2, as shown in a few murals. Just like how Hal Jordan is the Green Lantern of Earth 2.

  • @Apoiios_
    @Apoiios_ 10 місяців тому +46

    Thank you for including Origins in canon ^^

    • @RogerStanford23
      @RogerStanford23 10 місяців тому +12

      yeah because orgins is conon

    • @CenoriaWoah
      @CenoriaWoah 10 місяців тому +12

      Imagine not including peak in canon.

    • @gringo6362
      @gringo6362 5 місяців тому

      ​@@CenoriaWoah🤡

    • @Buff_tf2_soldier
      @Buff_tf2_soldier 4 місяці тому

      ​@@gringo6362🏳️‍🌈

  • @siddsen95
    @siddsen95 10 місяців тому +3

    The effort you put into your videos, man.. you're probably the best new Arkham channel on this platform.

  • @empty_melodies
    @empty_melodies 10 місяців тому +3

    Happy to see your watermark proudly displayed! You deserve all the credit for your own hard work.

  • @Enigma75614
    @Enigma75614 10 місяців тому +32

    9:43 Captain Boomerang also got killed by Deadshot in one of the Arkham Knight comics for disobeying orders.

    • @DOOMFIST___1
      @DOOMFIST___1 10 місяців тому +4

      Those aren’t canon to the games

    • @Enigma75614
      @Enigma75614 10 місяців тому +6

      @@DOOMFIST___1 They’re more canon than this garbage.

    • @DOOMFIST___1
      @DOOMFIST___1 10 місяців тому +2

      @@Enigma75614 nope like it or not SSKTJL is canon Y know games are actually fun when you don’t look for reasons to hate on them again the creators of Arkham batman have stated this is canon like it or not its true

    • @DOOMFIST___1
      @DOOMFIST___1 10 місяців тому +2

      @@Enigma75614 also not when it literally contradicts an entire plot point SSKTJL doesn’t really affect the arkham games in term of consistency besides maybe batmans power level theres no huge inconsistencies as the arkham comics

    • @Enigma75614
      @Enigma75614 10 місяців тому +6

      @@DOOMFIST___1 Bro. The founders of this company left the company before it released. Clearly they weren’t pleased with what happened. No one is looking for reasons to hate the game. We’re hating on it because the story is objectively bad.

  • @majorbombas
    @majorbombas 10 місяців тому +37

    My guess as for WHY evil batman(Who might be a clone) is not as smart as the real deal, is because cloning process is faulty. Brainiac is smart enough to create such tech, but is unable to stabilize it, so Superman clone is not as durable as real one even tho kryptonite is not doing damage to him, flash clone is fast but can't connect to speedforce same way real flash does, green lantern clone can't properly use ring so it limits his power, and batman is not as smart but has superhuman strenght and durability. If they plan to bring back whole justice league and go with "They were clones" route, then my guess is that at the end of it all, flash reboots the whole thing by going back in time. And if Batman advises him to WHICH point in time he should go back, then my guess is that Flash will go back to the night where scarecrow showed the world who is under batman mask, and he would just save batman from knightfall protocol.

    • @vonce3219
      @vonce3219 10 місяців тому +4

      Good point. Before I knew more about the game's story, I used to think they were so weak because brainiac is using them in a way. Like he's controlling them, but doesn't know the extent of the justice leagues abilities

    • @ericpratt984
      @ericpratt984 10 місяців тому +1

      What's the point of even making those excuses? They would still wipe the floor with these guys.

    • @vonce3219
      @vonce3219 10 місяців тому +3

      @@ericpratt984 personally, I don't see it that way. I agree just as much as you probably do that this game has shitty writing, I like trying to figure out for myself why a game has something happen. In this case, I'm trying to figure out how a group of crooks with guns can wipe out a group of godlike superheroes

    • @ninja-xb9ix
      @ninja-xb9ix 10 місяців тому +3

      I like the idea because it makes sense of why the justice league was pretty nerfed, and it works with batman, green lantern and flash but then you get to superman and what the heck, the guy not only survived with a kryptonite stabbed on his chest but also while at it was able to kill wonder woman? the original? Just to be killed off by the squad? He even catches boomerang golden kryptonite boomerang, yes he bleeds a bit but he was able to vaporize it anyways

    • @DanteDMCrules
      @DanteDMCrules 3 місяці тому +1

      Oooh I would love that.

  • @AngelOfNoMercy
    @AngelOfNoMercy 10 місяців тому +18

    didn't the cofounders leave in protest of this game, during its making?

    • @AngelOfNoMercy
      @AngelOfNoMercy 10 місяців тому +12

      @3:28 if its a clone that makes it SO MUCH WORSE, like why not clone superman a billion times or make a billions rings for the goons, or make thousands of flashs.
      the clone thing will make the lore 1000% worse then it is.

    • @shisho_sos8093
      @shisho_sos8093 10 місяців тому +7

      ​@@AngelOfNoMercy Yeah man, Clones just doesn't make sense, Its just the Dev try to Damage control, and the Shills try to Cope

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 10 місяців тому +1

      I mean David Jaffe tries to protest the new god of war not sure it means much more than their opinion

  • @OfficerBallZ2007
    @OfficerBallZ2007 5 місяців тому +4

    And it feels weird how the series turned from being dark and kinda horror to being comedic

  • @MrHolydoodle
    @MrHolydoodle 10 місяців тому +4

    Yeah, Deadshot part convinced me. Great video.

  • @burningelmo7269
    @burningelmo7269 10 місяців тому +41

    When you bring all of this up it is pretty obvious that this game is not canon

    • @ashcraft257
      @ashcraft257 10 місяців тому +1

      A lot of his points are probably related like that isn’t an argument.

    • @joelikescherrypie16
      @joelikescherrypie16 10 місяців тому +11

      ​@@ashcraft257 Did you even watch the video dude?

    • @ashcraft257
      @ashcraft257 10 місяців тому

      @@joelikescherrypie16 Yes I did, most of his points can be explained.

    • @spaceman9396
      @spaceman9396 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@ashcraft9514 then explain them? Or are you just coping with your not canon pos game? Lmao

    • @ashcraft257
      @ashcraft257 10 місяців тому

      @@spaceman9396 I am not the one coping here, you are.

  • @gracz0unl
    @gracz0unl 10 місяців тому +7

    I didn't even know that I needed to see this video. Thank you.

  • @Sterlingl3591
    @Sterlingl3591 10 місяців тому +14

    Harley in SS seems like a carbon copy of Margot Robbie.
    I like Margot, but Arkham Harley seemed original. I know she’s basically a continuation of BTAS Harley and I love BTAS so that’s amazing in itself. Why copy Margot’s Harley when the Arkham Haley was better than Margot’s? And, there’s an over saturation of Harley in pop culture atm. It’s tiring seeing Harley all over the place when they’re so many other rouges that they could’ve used. I love Harley, but with the overwhelming amount of her in pop culture and other media it’s really tiring.
    They could’ve made a BatWoman game set after AK. You hear Kate on a VM in Bruce’s office. They could’ve just written a game where she takes on the Mantle of The Bat. You could’ve said that she was being trained and that stopped on Halloween after Bruce got unmasked. She goes to the Batcave where she find Bruce and Alfred, and Bruce unveils a suit he made her and she goes out into the night. Bruce, Alfred and Barbra would be on comms helping her throughout her journey.
    For a villain you could have Deathstroke. He comes back to Gotham to end the entire Batfamily and Kate, along with Dick, Tim and Jason fight him. He’s not the Deathstroke we see in AK but a more ruthless version of him from AO. And it takes everyone to beat him. And at the very end, Bruce puts the Cowl back on one last time to take down Deathstroke because he’s nearly killed the entire Batfamily.
    That would’ve been better than the 70$ pos we got.

    • @Memedude_L1
      @Memedude_L1 10 місяців тому +3

      The reason SS harley is like Margot is because the devs didnt care about their own universe character and wanted to appeal to casual fans thats why she is like that same with deadshot

  • @diablo5617
    @diablo5617 4 місяці тому +1

    8:12 nice animation work Rocksteady I didn’t know we had that kind of physics back then 😂

  • @flavoredvelcro
    @flavoredvelcro 10 місяців тому +24

    calling bane a big dumb brute is a crime

    • @pugsalot10
      @pugsalot10 6 місяців тому +6

      Maybe not in origins but definitely in asylum

    • @raym764
      @raym764 5 місяців тому +2

      He become one after Origins

    • @pugsalot10
      @pugsalot10 5 місяців тому

      @@raym764 from the TN1

    • @faeyzaihsanulfikri9975
      @faeyzaihsanulfikri9975 5 місяців тому

      Dude was the first and probably only person (forgot any other person who might figured it out) to figure out batmans identity but yeah they severely nerfed him atleast hes spared from this garbage

  • @willtheiam
    @willtheiam 10 місяців тому +8

    Also in Arkham Knight, Batman did this little but ever so slightly little tiny thing after the game ended… NIGHTFALL PROTOCOL

    • @ashcraft257
      @ashcraft257 10 місяців тому +2

      It is Knightfall protocol, he did not die. He continued being Batman, but it drove him to a darker path. If you read some comics you would know how this stuff all played out.

    • @JKZ0000ME
      @JKZ0000ME 10 місяців тому +3

      @@willtheiamnightfall is a fake out because in a post credit scene I think he used fear toxin to scare someone I can’t remember exactly

    • @ashcraft257
      @ashcraft257 10 місяців тому +5

      @@willtheiam 🤦‍♂️You don’t get the point of knight at all do you. It is meant to be how Batman himself is gone. Again Batman states that Gotham needs a new saver. Bruce doesn’t die in Knight dude. He fakes his death, then he goes and uses fear toxin. The manor blowing up is just for shock and to fake his death.

    • @willtheiam
      @willtheiam 10 місяців тому

      That is literally what I said how is Batman in kill the justice league when he “dies”

    • @willtheiam
      @willtheiam 10 місяців тому

      I know

  • @Darren-lb3rx
    @Darren-lb3rx 10 місяців тому +5

    The way I see it, How dead shot talks about white dead shot, they are the same person, but the Arkham verse is leaking into this one, the whole time we were playing a different universe and the inconsistencies are that of a totally different universe. Either this is a really smart play to outsmart us, or it really is *bad writing.* and they do plan to make Batman have a return somehow? Perhaps THAT is the Arkham batman we know and love.

  • @TheSsjJoker
    @TheSsjJoker 10 місяців тому +27

    To anyone who wants to constantly says this is canon and “it’s cope it is”
    There sooo many inconsistencies and retcons
    And that it blows my mind people wanna keep saying it is
    Not to mention the story itself is so bad I just can’t
    Also Greta video

    • @TheSsjJoker
      @TheSsjJoker 10 місяців тому +6

      Despite them being clones or real league
      It will not save this games story
      I defended this game since reveal but the gameplay is to repetitive and the story is so trash despite anyone who wants to cope and say it is

  • @Salvage1009
    @Salvage1009 10 місяців тому +2

    Amazing video, great video!

  • @gennix404
    @gennix404 7 днів тому +1

    7:20 ok that actually resolved one of my 2 major criticisms of the game

  • @_MANDOWN_
    @_MANDOWN_ 10 місяців тому +63

    This garbage isn’t canon, Bruce retires peacefully with Selina, Gotham becomes a prosperous and peaceful city with Robin and Oracle as its defenders, Nightwing continues to keep bludhaven safe, and jason earns his redemption while making a name for himself as the Red Hood. My headcannon no one can tell me otherwise 😂

    • @newhybrid101
      @newhybrid101 10 місяців тому +7

      Nah Damian became Batman like in the cancelled game.

    • @_MANDOWN_
      @_MANDOWN_ 10 місяців тому +3

      @@newhybrid101 well yeah my headcannon could still lead up to Damian Wayne becoming Batman.

    • @hoovy5147
      @hoovy5147 10 місяців тому +5

      Isn't it implied that Bruce returns as ''The Ghost?'' There are a few times in the Arkham Episodes where you hear thugs talking about ''The Ghost.''

    • @BatMan-qr3kf
      @BatMan-qr3kf 10 місяців тому +6

      No matter what this game says, arkham knight made it pretty clear that bruce didn't peacefully retire. Both the true ending and the dlc missions confirm that. Also wouldn't him retiring with Selena take away from their goodbye at the end of her side story? And yeah obviously this story does the same thing with him just coming back but my point still stands as well.

    • @_MANDOWN_
      @_MANDOWN_ 10 місяців тому +2

      @@BatMan-qr3kf brah it’s a headcannon… it ain’t meant to be taken seriously 🤣

  • @mike.tyson...
    @mike.tyson... 10 місяців тому +6

    Keep up the great work bro

  • @baileyIrishCream6984
    @baileyIrishCream6984 10 місяців тому +3

    The assault on Arkham movie even has the exact same.Batman logo as all three games at the very beginning of the movie.

  • @LeonardMosca
    @LeonardMosca 7 місяців тому +2

    According to the report, Rocksteady was originally working on a new IP called Stones following the release of Batman: Arkham Knight, while WB Games Montreal (the studio behind Batman: Arkham Origins and Gotham Knights) was working on its own Suicide Squad game. Warner Bros., apparently eager to cash-in on the theatrical success of the 2016 Suicide Squad movie, cancelled those projects and began discussing a new Suicide Squad game with then-Rocksteady studio heads Jamie Walker and Sefton Hill. Walker and Hill apparently "saw it as a better opportunity than making something new from scratch" and were hopeful development would wrap in 2019 or 2020.

  • @jameson-y1d
    @jameson-y1d 24 дні тому +1

    This is like if they said Batman and Robin was canon to the 1988 film. 💀

  • @ExplorerDS6789
    @ExplorerDS6789 10 місяців тому +3

    2:57- I'm surprised Tara Strong hasn't received death threats for this. I mean, gamers hounded the actress from Last of Us Part II or whatever, because her character killed off someone beloved, and I heard Peter Blomquist received some hate over Micah Bell's actions in RDR2.

  • @kami761
    @kami761 4 місяці тому +4

    The only proof you need to why Suicide Squad isn't canon is the mere fact that Freeze suddenly became a woman and Nora is frozen again

  • @haiderraad468
    @haiderraad468 10 місяців тому +4

    Sometimes even if the studio who made the project said something like this "canon" thing it still should be believable , it should make sense , if it didn't make sense then it simply not true , great video pal , keep going

  • @StupidMarioBros1Fan
    @StupidMarioBros1Fan 9 місяців тому +1

    Willing to bet that in a future DLC we'll see the actual Arkham-verse and it's revealed that we've been following a parallel universe the whole time. This would allow it to be "canon" because then every inconsistency & issue that fans have would be invalidated.
    As you mentioned, almost every attempt at explaining inconsistencies has been a round-about way like the original Deadshot being from another universe instead of something simple like "I picked up the mantel after the previous guy died" meanwhile there are plenty of things that aren't addressed at all (like Harley & Ivy being a romantic thing when at most they were friends based on the very limited amount of scenes together)
    This leaves the door open for them to flip it around and say "See! It's not inconsistent because it was a different version the whole time!"
    The thing though is that unless this was planned from the beginning, we might not get any kind of reveal like that. It could very well just be bad writing which then means there's a chance for them to just ignore all the complaints because attempting to retcon would be "validating the haters"
    I didn't play the game (as looter-shooters aren't my thing) but I did watch a full let's play and I agree that most of the game's problems stem from "it's canon to the Arkham games" there's a lot of good moments and character banter, so many inconsistencies would be fixed if this was just "an else world story" especially since that's used as the foundation for the story. I was surprised at how early the multiverse was introduced because I thought that was going to be an endgame plot twist to justify more content but no it's pretty integral to the story.
    It's obvious that this game was heavily influenced by the 2016 movie (especially since the game has been in development for so long) so various things with the characters were either inspired by or possibly mandated by higher-ups but there is a way to make it "canon" to the Arkham-verse.
    If I am right about this, then it should've been part of the marketing. I mean practically everyone pointed out that Deadshot was a different guy, being upfront about it being a multiverse story would've saved a lot of frustration & confusion.

  • @aaronmendoza5596
    @aaronmendoza5596 5 місяців тому

    FINALLY!! Thank you! Some of these points you listed were things I've been telling others. Seriously, THANK YOU

  • @kendallhenderson
    @kendallhenderson 10 місяців тому +6

    I honestly feel like arkham verse robin alone would be able to take down the squad. Tim would have a plan from the get go to neutralize all of them.

  • @americantiger5041
    @americantiger5041 10 місяців тому +4

    11:09 didn’t two-face die in that movie also?

  • @YourFavoriteBlueHedgehog
    @YourFavoriteBlueHedgehog 5 місяців тому +3

    Fans (and me) trying to cope with the fact justice league lost to the suicide squad:

  • @matthiasneidenberger9471
    @matthiasneidenberger9471 10 місяців тому +2

    I considered playing this game until I heard about Batman’s death and how it was Arkham canon. How this is related to the coolest Batman games ever is baffling to me.

  • @Paradox_Alucard
    @Paradox_Alucard 6 місяців тому +2

    I personally like to believe that SSKTJL is set in an alternate timeline where the Knightfall protocol never happened despite Bruce being unmasked, which gives an explanation to why he's still Batman but with Fear Toxin added to his arsenal, which also is my way of explaining the bullshit with Deadshot.

  • @TearDaTaco
    @TearDaTaco 10 місяців тому +6

    Those Assault On Arkham “continuity errors” are so dumb because they can easily be explained..
    First one already explains how it is wrong
    Second one is an artistic direction and could be interpreted as the asylum still in early stages thus doesn’t have that many rules
    Third one doesn’t matter because scarecrow has most likely been wearing the glasgow smile before arkham asylum
    Last one could be explained with the penguin having an injury on his hand on one of his daily fish eating routine
    So yeah the movie is canon.

  • @TheSBleeder
    @TheSBleeder 2 місяці тому +3

    Suicide Squad: Kill the Arkhamverse

  • @WaylonRicks-lh2oz
    @WaylonRicks-lh2oz 7 місяців тому +3

    Being a heavy batman fan, this hurts to see this character get genuinly disrespected.

    • @2301WAYNE
      @2301WAYNE 3 місяці тому

      The character has been disrespected since it's been adopted even in comic books he has been out of character and disrespected multiple already, people think just because Batman has the most content the fans are enjoying it but they Don't know literally 99.9% of those are inaccurate and disrespectful ones, even The Dark Knight trilogy is not a good adaptation, Almost all characters are accurate except Batman itself, ofcourse there are few others as well Talla Al Ghul, Ra's Al Ghul Victor Zsasz, and little bit of Bane but mostly he's accurate though, and some others but that's the point Gordon, alfred, joker were a lot accurate but The Batman Character has been inaccurate, destroyed, ruined made way less cool and stupid , so many years and still elements of Batman Fear with signal and Loneliness has been brought now even though it's been from the start in the comic Books and that also not adopted accurately either., at this point it feel like even very positively that after atleast 900000 years we will get 1% accurate Batman, and that also would be a miracle even though it's wishful positive thinking. Sorry if you find this troublesome I just wanted let out a I fell after getting Inaccurate adaptations of The Batman so many infinite times already.

  • @Elias6233
    @Elias6233 16 днів тому +1

    Great video overrall but I have to compliment your narration. Very good pronounciation and you have a relaxing voice.

  • @wariodude128
    @wariodude128 6 місяців тому +2

    Hey, I got an interesting theory. What if the Arkhamverse Suicide Squad is set in is an Alternate Arkhamverse? It would probably explain a number of things. The audio log you played where Deadshot talked about another Deadshot who was basically him but white, that was the original Arkhamverse Deadshot who went to the kitchen for some Golden Grahms and accidentally stepped into an alternate dimension. Then was abducted by some aliens who's faces kind of looked like Jamie Farr. Better explanation than anything else really.

  • @KillerGamesINC
    @KillerGamesINC 9 місяців тому +5

    Also King Shark already existed in the Arkham Verse, if you check Character Bios in Asylum and the evidence lockup in Knight you will see the human version of the character, meaning he isn’t even a fucking shark in the Arkham Verse lmao.

    • @eur0be4t3r
      @eur0be4t3r 5 місяців тому +1

      Also some body parts in the Morgue in Asylum

    • @unclemxlvin
      @unclemxlvin 5 місяців тому

      @@eur0be4t3r nahhh u guys are thinking of the great white shark, king shark was never mentioned in that verse beyond the assault on arkham movie

    • @2ndspringtube708
      @2ndspringtube708 4 місяці тому

      Some of Arkham asylum bios were retconned like prof strange and jack rhyder ,so that’s not new

    • @KillerGamesINC
      @KillerGamesINC 4 місяці тому

      @@2ndspringtube708 didn’t know that.

  • @LegendEditor7
    @LegendEditor7 10 місяців тому +4

    Beautiful video

  • @CBandu
    @CBandu 10 місяців тому +4

    You are a LEGEND dude

  • @yeahey5947
    @yeahey5947 11 днів тому +2

    i never realized that was killer moth in teen titans god im dumb

    • @hermos3602
      @hermos3602 4 години тому

      You think you're dumb? I used to think Slade and Deathstroke were two different people.

  • @kevinbrackman6915
    @kevinbrackman6915 9 місяців тому +1

    Bro finally I thought I was the only person to realize it's an alternate universe because batman died in arkham knight also great video

    • @John.Wick999
      @John.Wick999 9 місяців тому

      Only that version of batman died, he really faked his death and starts using the fear toxin if u see the final cutscene it shows that

  • @SingularPanda4
    @SingularPanda4 Місяць тому +4

    I don't care what WB or Rocksteady says, to me Suicide Squad is Not Canon. End of story.

  • @emperorvader283
    @emperorvader283 10 місяців тому +7

    If Miles was killed like Robin everyone would be crying racism.

  • @DopeAsAWolf
    @DopeAsAWolf 10 місяців тому +7

    LETS GOOOOO🔥🔥🔥🔥 NOT CANNON CONFIRMED 👍👍👍💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥

  • @jackkemp7256
    @jackkemp7256 5 місяців тому +1

    Maybe it’s a “continuation,” because Arkham’s Deadshot traveled to the other universe, but that’s just needlessly complex.

  • @bronykingamethystrain5676
    @bronykingamethystrain5676 8 місяців тому +1

    From the early cancelled concepts of this game, it looked like it was supposed to be a Batman Beyond game but with Damian as the new Batman instead of Terry McGinnis.

    • @2ndspringtube708
      @2ndspringtube708 4 місяці тому +1

      Those aren’t rocksteady’s but the Arkham origins team who used what’s left of the scrapped game to make Gotham knights ,rocksteady never was developing a Batman beyond game