The Oakland owners are terrible and cheap yes, but they were willing to pay for the new stadium themselves, however the city of Oakland still couldn't get out of its own bureaucratic and corrupt way to finalize it. This has been an issue long before the current A's owners, this is a city who lost themselves 2 professional teams before the A's as well due to their inaction. There is no debate the coliseum is the worst venue in baseball and was easily the worst in the NFL and it has been so for decades but the city choose to do nothing, in fact they borrowed money against the coliseum so they actually still owe money on it.
So now Oakland will still have the dumpy old Coliseum but no sports teams. That doesn't seem to make much sense. Why not build two new stadiums for the Raiders and A's to keep them in Oakland and get rid of the Coliseum instead?
Oaklands DOWNFALL began when the Raiders cameback to Oakland a 2nd time! But when Fischer took over the A's, that was the signing of the Death Warrant.
City of Oakland had opportunities to keep 3 professional teams and blew it. I have been to Vegas 3 dozen times and it's more than a tourist city. People are mad at the ownership, but they had to make a move. In an era of opulence, how can you win in a multi-purpose stadium?
Terrible owner yes for the A's...matched only by failed city leadership who chased out three championship teams in a decade. People from all over the greater bay area now have zero reason to go to Oakland and spend a single penny there. That stream has ended.
@@Ginger30161 couldn't agree more, how come sanctuary cities can't or won't provide sanctuary for its own hard working, tax paying citizens?? Knock down the coliseum and make a mega tent city/needle exchange ...a huge free for all. Lots of fun there.
Majority of the problem though is with the city and it’s officials this is 3 time this has happened since 2015 the last 2 mayors have been a joke and let this happened and didn’t give any of these teams a decent proposal
@@kenamaro3942 honestly a really lengthy renovation to the coliseum probably would have kept the A’s for another 10 years and bought the city some time and they didn’t even consider that which is more mind boggling
No taxpayer wants to pay for a stadium when the owners and league have the money, and then the team turns around and over charges on parking, tickets, beer and food.
@@DMalltheway I get that but if the A’s weren’t going to be owners of the stadium then what do you want them to do if the county and state are owners of the stadium the county/city/state has to foot the majority of the stadium cost and in reality the cost is spread out over a period of time and won’t have major tax impacts and look at the other stuff taxpayers have to fund that they don’t want to
Your take is totally wrong. I live in Oakland and our city council is 95% responsible for the A’s departure. The A’s spent over 100 million dollars trying to get a ballpark built. The city council balked at improving the infrastructure around the sight accommodate the park and put crazy affordable housing demands on the development. The city let a 19 billion dollar investment walk away. The ownership sucks but this is the cities failure.
The city is absolutely to blame but only partially. It’s hard to sell a new stadium and development area when there’s no proof of concept people will show up to it. Ownership has been tanking this team for decades, never investing in this team, and they want to be rewarded with new ballpark and surrounding entertainment area? Its a whole different story if we’re talking about a winning team that regularly has 20k plus attendance per game.
@@JabroniBaseball yeah but hard to get 20k to show when they play in a trash heap. Can’t blame the fans for not wanting to go since like mid 2000’s, that’s how crappy and outdated the coliseum is. It’s just a circle really. You can put blame anywhere but it’s all connected. Play is not good so why get a new stadium leads to terrible old stadium No one goes to games leads to no money put into the team because no one goes to games because terrible play on the field so why get a good stadium. It’s like a sad cyclical chain.
@@JabroniBaseball the city refuse to modernize the Coliseum or at least maintain it. They know all the problems that arena has, they know about the sewage leaks, the broken seats, out of order restrooms.
@@JabroniBaseball I live in the Greater Bay Area and the problem is I'd rather fly to see them in Las Vegas in a nice stadium than go to see them in the Coliseum. That experience just isn't worth the trip for me anymore... I only catch the A's live when they play across the Bay.
@@JabroniBaseball the big thing here is that the team was going to pay for the entire ballpark and redevelop the waterfront. To let a 19 billion dollar investment walk from your city is a travesty. Who cares if they win when they’re willing to spend that kind of money. I’m an Oakland resident but I’m not an A’s fan. Our city leadership is totally incompetent.
funding gap was about 84 million a few months ago for the whole 8 billion dollar project , with the city of Oakland receiving about 100 million in funding from the state . The A's pulled out just before . If they wanted a stadium , it would have been built already .
I don't like the Athletics' ownership, let's be clear, but this is both the ownership and the city of Oakland. You have to blame the city of Oakland. The Warriors, Raiders, and now the Athletics have left because the city leadership either didn't understand what these teams meant to the community and local economy or they didn't care. If you were to get divorced three times in a five year period, it's probably you that's the problem.
Warriors and Raiders both had different dreams. Lacob since he took ownership (Along with Gruber) always had the SF dream dubs fans knew it since they took over. Was gonna happen... They also just moved like 15 minutes away. Vegas for the Raiders was because there was no shot Oakland could keep both teams, a football stadium in downtown Oakland had no shot of passing, and Davis got a huge money handout from some other billionaire (Last name starts with an M I think and i'm pretty sure he's dead). Neither really marketed that they were going to stay. A's literally marketed "Rooted In Oakland"
The city of Oakland is facing its largest deficit, the A’s refused to maintain Coliseum and destroy every single play off team that gets going. It’s definitely cheap ownerships fault
@@cringeandpunishment3140 it’s a city/county owned stadium from my experience with it in buffalo it’s not on the team to do upkeep/renovate the stadium rather the city or county is liable
The City of Oakland had plenty of time to keep 3 teams. Maybe when the Athletics leave, they can tear down the Coliseum and put a Costco store which will begin to bring back Oakland's economy.
As an A’s fan, I’m not surprised by this, Oakland is crumbling and now after losing The Raiders and Warriors and will likely lose The A’s, the politicians are to blame for this debacle.
Bruh this city of Oakland ran out three professional sports teams can’t really blame the owner if they’ve been trying to build another stadium since the 90s 😂
@@CharoletteKirschbaum Its honestly incredible how people keep spewing this nonsense when you dont seem to realize what they were asking for in the new stadium. Not to mention uh, THE FACT OAKLAND WAS WILLING TO GIVE THEM MORE MONEY THAN WHAT THEYD GET IN VEGAS!??!?!
@@SaucyCharmander Yep. Not to mention that at one point, the plan had a clause where us Oakland residents would have had to PAY in taxes a large portion of the new stadium construction. Talk about highway robbery! John Fisher is scum.
You're spot on a different "Money Ball".. I'm sad to see the team leave Oakland... The ticket prices are cheaper than SF Giants .. And I could tell the loyal fans at Oakland ..which needs the "Economic Engine"... The architecture firm planned images of the new bay stadium looked Fantastic....... Sad to see The failed Grants... Appreaciate your insights
Agreed. Definitely sad to see the A's leave Oakland. The proposed stadium idea did look pretty amazing. Maybe an expansion team will come back to Oakland one day. Thanks for stopping by!
This is far more on the government of Oakland than it is on The A's. 30 years of negotiation and Oakland won't let them do anything. Oakland has lost all three major sports teams in a span of five years. This isn't an A's problem, it's an Oakland problem.
Agreed , but the once beautiful city of Oakland has become a dystopian landscape of crime and poverty. With tourism non existent and a corrupt political regime. Expecting to keep a franchise of any sort becomes an unwinnable war. Sad.
I'm just thankful that up here in Minnesota we were able to resolve any new Arena new stadium issues with all our professional teams but as of right now Target Center of the NBA's Timberwolves is the oldest arena in the NBA so we need to keep an eye on the Timberwolves ownership to see if they will stick around and help with financing for a new Arena and Minneapolis or if they're going to pull off what Norm Green did after buying out his other partners and was the owner of the North Stars back in the early 1990s and after that they became the Dallas Stars and then we had to go through a process to bring back the National Hockey League and now we have the Minnesota Wild and Xcel Energy Center in St Paul
If Fisher recognized the A's can't be profitable in Oakland, and moves the A's to Vegas, where the franchise triples in value, how is that being a bad owner?
If I'm not mistaken, the team will increase in value with the move to Vegas but, they won't own the land. If they stay in Oakland , Fisher will own the real estate of the ballpark as well as it surroundings. BAY Area real estate is much more valuable than Vegas real estate, so in the long run, he'll be losing money by going to Vegas.
A good owner's goal isn't to increase profits my any means necessary, that is not how the entertainment industry works. You make money from providing a good product and developing a solid fanbase. The move to Vegas is only a band aid on the issue.
@@arizonawildcat3821 I would say it's impossible to create a loyal fan base in Oakland because the area the A's play in is so rampant with crime in a bad part of Oakland.
They’ve been trying to build a stadium since the mid-90s. Oakland isn’t a business friendly city. They wanted the A’s to pay for infrastructure and affordable housing near the new stadium costing 8 billion dollars. The stadium in Las Vegas is costing 1 billion dollars.
Oakland was NEVER behind the A's. Even in the 70's when they won 3 world titles. the attendance was bad, the city government did not help and the Raiders were the only team that was really promoted. I was and am an A's fan and lived through the the eara.
There was never an alternate timeline in which Oakland keeps the Athletics past 2030. This tango had two dancers. First, you have a cheap owner. The only owner more cheap was the Expo murderer, Jeff Loria, who also killed the Marlins. Second is the city of Oakland. Let’s not kid ourselves. The city is slow to act…until after the last minute. The Warriors and Raiders left Oakland in recent years, after asking for a new stadium. Even after looking elsewhere for an opportunity (Warriors in San Jose…Raiders in LA(where they were previously), the city, which is incompetently run, did nothing. Only when the Raiders had already announced their move to Las Vegas, did the city make a proposal. The city lost 3 professional sport teams since 2019…4 overall, if you include the Golden Seals of the NHL. Bad owner with poor city is always a recipe for disaster and relocation. I feel bad for the Athletics fans of Bay Area, who don’t deserve it.
I agree with that you're saying but the fans, (or rather the lack thereof l,) play a major part into this too. Yes, John Fisher is a piece of shit. Yes the Colisuem is a fucked up shitty venue. Yes the City of Oakland is incompetent and gas shown that they really didn't want my beloved Athletics in the city. However, with all those things coming into play I would be remiss not to mention the shitty fucked up fairweather "fans," the A's has. Due to the fact the A's were immediately successful and up until 20 years ago they've always fielded competitive teams you would think that they would have developed a loyal, devoted, and dedicated fan base. The fucking Giants, Phillies, and Cubs did and those two teams spent most of their history mired in mediocrity or losing, but the A's didn't. When you go from selling out the Coliseum in the early aughts to averaging 9,000 a game 20 years later tells me that my beloved Athletics never really had a fan base in the Bay.
Montreal Expos allover again. Bad stadium. No spending. Farm team for other MLB teams. Provincial/local government will not assist with new ball park.Lots of upset fans. No attendance.
I understand that it’s trendy to criticize the owner of a relocating team and make them seem like the devil but this might be different. I don’t know, either Oakland got stuck with the three worst owners in sports or the city itself is the problem.
I feel it’s the city of Oakland’s fault. They lost the raiders twice the warriors and now they will lose the A’s. Both the Raiders and the A’s were trying for a long time to get a new stadium but kept failing. I figured that once the Raiders and Warriors left they would do what they can to keep the A’s.
The City of Oakland has lost three teams in five years. The Coliseum is outdated and the City focused on how much money they could get from the feds to build Howard Terminal. If the A's go up in value, then it will have been worth it for the owner. Oakland will have to decide if they want to rebuild the Coliseum for another professional baseball team or whether they will have low cost housing. The crime is out of control and that needs to be fixed before getting another baseball team.
Unfortunately fair weather fans complain about the owners... I put all of the blame on the non functioning city government... They had decades to build a new stadium, but FAILED to do so...
If the city of Oakland wanted to keep Oakland, they could have made the new stadium happen sometime over the last two decades. This is 100% on the city, not on the ownership.
There is a lot of finger pointing going on. It's very simple, this ownership and the previous A's ownership requested help from the local and state governments for decades (not just the past couple of years). Clark County and the State of Nevada did in 8 weeks what those California government entities couldn't do in more than 20 years. Everyone needs to stop bashing the wrong people. It's not the fans, it’s not the Commissioner, it's not the current A’s ownership, it wasn't the previous A’s ownership, it is not even the current City of Oakland administration; it is Alameda County, the previous City of Oakland administrations and the State of California. The Warriors, Raiders and now A's have one thing in common, they were all dealing with the same governmental agencies to improve their facilities, but it didn't happen for decades. Could all three major league franchises be wrong, and the City of Oakland, the County of Alameda & the State of California be right in playing "hard ball" with each other? Not likely. Fisher invested more the $100 Mil. in the research for development, in good faith, to settling at the Howard Terminal site, but the clock just kept on ticking. By the time the new Mayor took office, it was already too late, the A's had already privately thrown in the towel in California, because of too many setbacks and wasted time in the past 8 years. MLB was going to stop their revenue sharing if they didn't have a solid site in place by the end of this year, so the quick approvals that came from the progressive State of Nevada (far less RED tape) proved to be the answer. Don't fall for the hype of who’s at fault, place blame where the blame should be. Again, the previous administrations for The City of Oakland, the County of Alameda and the State of California should learn from a quote, from the late, great Vin Scully, who would say during his broadcast on a day the Dodgers were committing a bunch of errors on the field, "We Met The Enemy, And The Enemy Is Us".
I think after five years, at best, maybe only a few years, they'll have one of the lower attendances in the league, given the size of the city. I'm thinking their attendance will be similar to Kansas City or Miami.
Calling Fisher the worst is only partially valid. Oakland is a terrible place for sports. After losing the Warriors *and* the Raiders plus the fact that this isn't a new issue. Oakland itself has more responsibility than just "a little"
The reason why the A’s aren’t supported locally is because of the ownership. The reason why they don’t have a new stadium is because of both city and ownership.
Plenty of teams have had shitty ownership and were far less successful than the A's were, but they had a loyal fan base. The A's unfortunately have a shitty fan base.
Life like stadiums are a funny thing. Some people go to a game and have a great time. Others go and are miserable and complain about the experience. It all boils down to expectations. The most brutal thing I ever experienced was the raider fan base especially if you were there to take in a game and rooted for the opposing team. Even with that factored in, I saw my team spank the raiders 3 years and the experience was awesome. The restrooms were the most vile disgusting thing I can recall as far as infrastructure. Never saw any moths or feral cats. When going to the As games as a kid through to adult it was great. Never forget seeing the walking triple (rickey Henderson) or the swinging As during their heyday and visiting as part of little league for the tickets we sold. Good times. Wish the city would have found a way to work something out for the stadium (with the different owners over the years) which we all know has been going on for decades. From a business side though, oakland has turned into a cesspool and visiting anything there can be dicey. Oh well thanks for the memories Rickey Henderson, vida blue, sal bando, joe rudi, reggie jackson, dennis eckersley amongst others.
What you did not show was a ranking of baseball teams in terms of local revenue, which includes local broadcasts, merchandise, tickets, etc. I suspect you'd find the A's in last place. So where does the money come from for Fisher to pay big contracts. Granted, he bled the team, but I blame the City of Oakland more than ownership failings for the A's to flee to Las Vegas.
I blame the city. How tf are they gonna be in talks for decades upon decades, and nothing come out of that? Oakland ran out their three teams and it’s sad.
I would be very surprised that the A's will be able to stay in Vegas very long, it's a touristy city and it probably won't be able to draw huge fans year after year.
It's hard to predict. Baseball has 10 times as many home games as football. So you need that consistent fan base. Casinos and travel agencies will offer free tickets for tourists but will the permanent residents support the team enough. I'm guessing ticket prices will be pretty high. The A's will have to bring in a few big free agents to bring fans in.
WE NEED A NEW OWNER!!! Willing to invest in good players instead of selling them. If not this team will continue to be a farm team for the rest of the league. It is autrocious how many oakland A's players are now with other teams including the head coach
No, the Oakland A's were ruined by the Oakland citizens that voted for the mayors and city officials (who have continued to failed their city) for the past 20 years.
This owner doomed us once they took over, also our council members and mayor's office have shown they don't care. Other mayor's have understood how important and detrimental it is for the city to retain sports teams. The supposed leadership of this city are charging taxpayers for what? Causing a client up on international Ave, redoing the streets, but not where the pot holes are. Where us the money going? Who's pockets are being lined? Truthfully These last few mayor's gave no insight and understanding of how important these sports teams are to oakland. Seems like they don't care and are into doing whatever to put the city in a desperate place of despair without nothing to dustract or help root for, or b proud of. I don't believe they are true people of oakland, people who know, care and understand the roots. NOT TURNING THIS INTO ANYTHING ABOUT RACE, BUT ALL THE AFRICAN AMERICANS MAYOR'S, UNDERSOOD THE VALUE AND CARED ABOUT THE TRADITIONS. WHAT DO WE DO, LOOK ELSEWHERE, OUTSIDE OF OAKLAND. THE CHILDREN OF OAKLAND WHO ARE AND WERE INSPIRED TO PLAY SPORTS BECAUSE OF OUR TEAMS, HAVE what now? As I was 12 years old and playing baseball inspired by homegrown players such as Dave Stewart and Ricky Henderson, right b4 our baberuth Allstars was about to start, the oakland As donated and invested in us, by putting up night lights and redoing the field, green man on 66th Ave. It was the best, I recall all players and parents thankfully and us kids were really stoked, we got to play under the lights for the first time like professionals, on a field that they redone to look like a major league field.
For whatever reason, John Fisher doesn't really care about the team .. it's not just Oakland that is affected, it's the whole east bay. . the move to Las Vegas for a franchise that plays 162 games a year and for a city with only about 600,000 might become disastrous. . sure Vegas is a nice place to let loose. . not sure if the A's will thrive there. . the Raiders have some regrets about having other teams fans rule the roost at their new home. . as Marc Davis. . Sad news for real A's fans.
Fisher views my beloved Athletics as nothing more than a hellified passive evenue stream. I support the move to Vegas because the harsh fucked up reality of the situation is my beloved Athletics doesn't have a fan base in Oakland. The A's might have a total of 15,000 fans in the Bay. My fear is that when the A's move and the novelty of baseball in Vegas wears off and attendance drops my beloved Athletics will become remixed version of the Ray's they'll only be averging 13K a night. Then you have factor in the the p.o.s. Fisher's business model of not keeping and getting the talent necessary to make the A's a winning team. Am I supposed to believe that when tbe A's get to Vegas he's going to "do a 180," and increase player payroll to keep the talent we already have and the free agents we need to get a ring?
Some in Vegas don't want them. Vegas honeymoon is almost over with the Raiders. Las Vegas is thinking; 'you're not taking advantage of Vegas are you? We have the Golden Knights. Why do we need another team from Oakland?'
As a kid I loved the A’s. But since the early 2000s, it’s just impossible to support them. Teams need hero’s, and the As just haven’t had any around long enough to inspire loyalty.
Despite the fact of the A's not keeping talent due to their success you would think that they would have built up enough capital to have a large loyal fan base, but they don't. The harsh reality of the situation us my beloved Athletics have a shitty fairweather fan base.
1 Warrior's, 2 Raiders, 3 A's, Three Strikes "Your Out" at The Ole Ballgame this video is propaganda to take attention off a political party that has no idea on what their doing...
God Bless Oakland. There is more to life than sports. Howard Cosell said it best, "In that time, I came to realize, however reluctantly, that there was an inexorable force working against revelations of truth about sports in America. That force exists in the form of an unholy alliance between the three television networks and the sports print medium. It is the fundamental purpose of both, for their own reasons, to exalt sports, to regale the games, the fights, the races, whatever, to the point where these contests are indoctrinated into the public mind as virtual religious rituals."
Is plenty of blame to go around the Oakland City Council didn't help much either and I believe that if the city would have helped the owner of the team I spent more for its players knowing it was going to play in a better ballpark
How? The p.o.s. Fisher has demonstrated during his tenure as owner that he won't get (nor is he willing to retain,) the talent necessary to make my beloved Athletics into a winning team. Why would he suddenly change his business model with a move to Vegas?
If they were willing to pay for a new stadium themselves and the city couldn't male that happen I'd be blaming the people you're electing more than anything.
The A's were willing to pay for the new stadium themselves. The notion the owner was cheap in the past...was the past. They tried to build a stadium but the city due to politics turned down the offer. The end.
Fisher is being enabled by all MLB owners. They care about a bottom line, which is fine with tourism attendance, at the expence of the actual fans. Also sickening to see the Golden Knights (one of the few teams in the 4 major sports I actively am upset whenever I see headlines about them doing well for starting the Vegas sports trend and how they've treated players like Fleury) advising them. The one thing the Golden Knights have: they didn't rip an established team away from genuine fans. Fisher is doing that. I'm an A's fan as long as the team is in Oakland, at an arena with free street parking close by and a garden with edible plants in the stadium. But Fisher certainly isn't making the end easy. While I don't know for sure I suspect I'll feel the same way St Louis fans feel about the Rams (except potentially worse due to compounding my existing feelings on the Golden Knights whom are advising Fisher).
Question....where are all these A's fans? Or should I say where were they? Because they sure aren't at the games? It's a mess and it's not entirely the owners fault.
So now Oakland will still have the dumpy old Coliseum but no sports teams. That doesn't seem to make much sense. Why not build two new stadiums for the Raiders and A's to keep them in Oakland and get rid of the Coliseum instead?
Exactly. When you're averaging only 9K a game, (despite the success the A's have had and selling out 20 years ago,) that's telling me that A's never really had a fan base in the Bay.
Wait a minute the A’s have just bought land. MLB still has to vote for relocation hard for me to believe they will let them move what needs to happen that horrible ownership needs to sell that’s it. Just a tired fan⚾️❤️
Just looking at the owners tell it, they don't have that honest go get em look. Some sort if sit back, scam it , fake it till u make it look. Some sor of we bought for this price, even though they have done nothing,looking to squeeze as much money out of the team as possible
bad ownership? I guess Oakland is just UNLUCKY. 3 teams have left already and the MLB remaining team has been trying to get a new stadium for 2 decades? much like the Raiders, who left came back and left again....Boy, John Fisher is one Big Influencer if you believe this?
John Fisher is the owner you fucking clown. The Raiders went to Vegas for money and the Warriors always wanted to move to SF, didn’t care what Oakland offered. Think before you speak oldhead, John fisher isn’t a saint you bum.
I did not know that Moneyball was their brain child. It serves them right for not servicing the fans. I remember the A's from the days of Jackson and Billy Ball, and they've never been hot contenders save for once or twice. They want to leave? Fine by me. Good riddance.
Billionaires can rebuild entire sections of cities in far less than 20 years. The whole idea billionaires will never say out loud but actually live by: Never spend your own money. In order for any city to come up with one billion dollars for anything you are taking away from someone and something. Money for the arts, education/schools, health clinics, roads and bridges, libraries, police and fire departments. These soulless vessels who own pro sports franchise do not care. They don't own their own stadiums because, once gain, they'd have to spend money. MLB commish and ownership lackey Rob Manfred should have stepped in long ago, telling Fisher to sell the team or MLB would work out a plan with the city of Oakland, build a new stadium and Fisher would have to reimburse MLB for the cost.
But now the city owns a stadium, arena, and a large parking lot not generating any significant revenues or taxes... Stupid is as stupid does... The city will most likely demolish both soon as without generating any rent their properties are a maintenance drain... The attitude of you need us more than we need you nonsense FAILED four times...
I'm not an Oakland fan but maybe if everyone leaves all the time the problem ain't with the owners. Just sayin. Then again, the A's have a long storied history of ripping great teams apart. I hated the A's of the early 70s because Reggie, Catfish, Sal, Rollie, and the rest of that dysfunctional bunch beat my team on a regular basis. So I laughed my ass off when Charlie Finley had the fire-sale that broke that bunch apart. Since then, I guess I've been neutral on them. Anyway, good luck Oakland. Frisco isn't that far a drive I hear.
As a baseball fan in general (Go go White SOX!), I feel very sorry for the city of Oakland. They lost the Raiders in 2020 to Vegas, the Golden State Warriors two years ago to San Francisco, and now they are about to lose the Athletics (again to Vegas). I hope after all this has blown over Oaktown gets another chance with an MLB expansion team.
Hard to see MLB taking the risk on needing to deal with Oakland ever again. If there is ever another Bay Area MLB team, I'd think San Jose is more likely.
As a fan in San Diego, once a team leaves it poisons the league against you. NBA never considered us for expansion after Donald Sterling took the Clippers to his hometown in LA. NFL will not return either. There's no stadium to play in anymore.
Is John Fisher the worst owner in modern sports?
The city is to blame
Nop........ He is BRILLIANT & made the smartest move in all the MLB history.......
He is one of the worst but as another commenter said it is really the city of oaklands failure
Yes
That honor belongs to Marc Davis.
The Oakland owners are terrible and cheap yes, but they were willing to pay for the new stadium themselves, however the city of Oakland still couldn't get out of its own bureaucratic and corrupt way to finalize it. This has been an issue long before the current A's owners, this is a city who lost themselves 2 professional teams before the A's as well due to their inaction. There is no debate the coliseum is the worst venue in baseball and was easily the worst in the NFL and it has been so for decades but the city choose to do nothing, in fact they borrowed money against the coliseum so they actually still owe money on it.
Don't forget Oakland also lost the NHL's Golden Seals a long time ago, probably before you were born... Oakland has LOST four major league teams...
@@ronclark9724 In all fairness, the Seals were dirt poor and they never had a chance to compete.
Well now Oakland is homeless to pro sports
So now Oakland will still have the dumpy old Coliseum but no sports teams. That doesn't seem to make much sense. Why not build two new stadiums for the Raiders and A's to keep them in Oakland and get rid of the Coliseum instead?
To be fair, Al Davis deserves a lot of the blame for what happened.
Oaklands DOWNFALL began when the Raiders cameback to Oakland a 2nd time!
But when Fischer took over the A's, that was the signing of the Death Warrant.
Why would you build a MLB stadium in Oakland? Howard Terminal is a financial disaster.
City of Oakland had opportunities to keep 3 professional teams and blew it. I have been to Vegas 3 dozen times and it's more than a tourist city. People are mad at the ownership, but they had to make a move. In an era of opulence, how can you win in a multi-purpose stadium?
It's actually four: Oakland lost the Seals NHL franchise to Cleveland.
Terrible owner yes for the A's...matched only by failed city leadership who chased out three championship teams in a decade. People from all over the greater bay area now have zero reason to go to Oakland and spend a single penny there. That stream has ended.
People should avoid the East Bay altogether just to avoid getting shot on the freeway.
@@Ginger30161 couldn't agree more, how come sanctuary cities can't or won't provide sanctuary for its own hard working, tax paying citizens?? Knock down the coliseum and make a mega tent city/needle exchange ...a huge free for all. Lots of fun there.
@@kenamaro3942 No, gotta keep the coliseum. there are bathrooms and showers for the homeless.
@@Ginger30161 Do they actually work?
@@ronclark9724 does it matter?
Ownership knew what they were doing. It was planned to move out of Oakland. Change my mind.
No one can.
Owners rule and they get what they want! Fans don't own the team and the As fans aren't loyal.
Sounds like most wealthy business owners in America. Self serving interests at the cost of the employees and customers. What a winner Fisher is.
Majority of the problem though is with the city and it’s officials this is 3 time this has happened since 2015 the last 2 mayors have been a joke and let this happened and didn’t give any of these teams a decent proposal
it is in California ...... nothing works there!
One team had to move twice and the failed city leadership STILL didn't get the message.
@@kenamaro3942 honestly a really lengthy renovation to the coliseum probably would have kept the A’s for another 10 years and bought the city some time and they didn’t even consider that which is more mind boggling
No taxpayer wants to pay for a stadium when the owners and league have the money, and then the team turns around and over charges on parking, tickets, beer and food.
@@DMalltheway I get that but if the A’s weren’t going to be owners of the stadium then what do you want them to do if the county and state are owners of the stadium the county/city/state has to foot the majority of the stadium cost and in reality the cost is spread out over a period of time and won’t have major tax impacts and look at the other stuff taxpayers have to fund that they don’t want to
Your take is totally wrong. I live in Oakland and our city council is 95% responsible for the A’s departure. The A’s spent over 100 million dollars trying to get a ballpark built. The city council balked at improving the infrastructure around the sight accommodate the park and put crazy affordable housing demands on the development. The city let a 19 billion dollar investment walk away. The ownership sucks but this is the cities failure.
The city is absolutely to blame but only partially. It’s hard to sell a new stadium and development area when there’s no proof of concept people will show up to it. Ownership has been tanking this team for decades, never investing in this team, and they want to be rewarded with new ballpark and surrounding entertainment area? Its a whole different story if we’re talking about a winning team that regularly has 20k plus attendance per game.
@@JabroniBaseball yeah but hard to get 20k to show when they play in a trash heap. Can’t blame the fans for not wanting to go since like mid 2000’s, that’s how crappy and outdated the coliseum is. It’s just a circle really. You can put blame anywhere but it’s all connected. Play is not good so why get a new stadium leads to terrible old stadium No one goes to games leads to no money put into the team because no one goes to games because terrible play on the field so why get a good stadium. It’s like a sad cyclical chain.
@@JabroniBaseball the city refuse to modernize the Coliseum or at least maintain it. They know all the problems that arena has, they know about the sewage leaks, the broken seats, out of order restrooms.
@@JabroniBaseball I live in the Greater Bay Area and the problem is I'd rather fly to see them in Las Vegas in a nice stadium than go to see them in the Coliseum. That experience just isn't worth the trip for me anymore... I only catch the A's live when they play across the Bay.
@@JabroniBaseball the big thing here is that the team was going to pay for the entire ballpark and redevelop the waterfront. To let a 19 billion dollar investment walk from your city is a travesty. Who cares if they win when they’re willing to spend that kind of money. I’m an Oakland resident but I’m not an A’s fan. Our city leadership is totally incompetent.
This is why they used to be called the AAA’s. A very applicable slang term.
funding gap was about 84 million a few months ago for the whole 8 billion dollar project , with the city of Oakland receiving about 100 million in funding from the state . The A's pulled out just before . If they wanted a stadium , it would have been built already .
No, the Giants territorial rights had something to do with this too.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. fans outside of the bay area and casuals keep blaming Oakland, but it's all Fisher's fault.
Joe Lacob always wanted the Warriors in SF. The move to SF was a prestige/ego real estate play on his part. Stanford MBAs do those kind of things.
I don't like the Athletics' ownership, let's be clear, but this is both the ownership and the city of Oakland. You have to blame the city of Oakland. The Warriors, Raiders, and now the Athletics have left because the city leadership either didn't understand what these teams meant to the community and local economy or they didn't care. If you were to get divorced three times in a five year period, it's probably you that's the problem.
Warriors and Raiders both had different dreams. Lacob since he took ownership (Along with Gruber) always had the SF dream dubs fans knew it since they took over. Was gonna happen... They also just moved like 15 minutes away. Vegas for the Raiders was because there was no shot Oakland could keep both teams, a football stadium in downtown Oakland had no shot of passing, and Davis got a huge money handout from some other billionaire (Last name starts with an M I think and i'm pretty sure he's dead). Neither really marketed that they were going to stay. A's literally marketed "Rooted In Oakland"
The city of Oakland is facing its largest deficit, the A’s refused to maintain Coliseum and destroy every single play off team that gets going. It’s definitely cheap ownerships fault
@@cringeandpunishment3140 it’s a city/county owned stadium from my experience with it in buffalo it’s not on the team to do upkeep/renovate the stadium rather the city or county is liable
The City of Oakland had plenty of time to keep 3 teams. Maybe when the Athletics leave, they can tear down the Coliseum and put a Costco store which will begin to bring back Oakland's economy.
The A's could have built a new stadium in San Jose and stayed in the Bay Area but were cock blocked by the SF Giants who claimed territory rights.
As an A’s fan, I’m not surprised by this, Oakland is crumbling and now after losing The Raiders and Warriors and will likely lose The A’s, the politicians are to blame for this debacle.
and not the greedy owner who wanted his stadium paid for, just like the Raiders.
Nope the owner for a fact dream on
Bruh this city of Oakland ran out three professional sports teams can’t really blame the owner if they’ve been trying to build another stadium since the 90s 😂
You are so absolutely right. Blame the fans and city of Oakland
@@CharoletteKirschbaum Its honestly incredible how people keep spewing this nonsense when you dont seem to realize what they were asking for in the new stadium. Not to mention uh, THE FACT OAKLAND WAS WILLING TO GIVE THEM MORE MONEY THAN WHAT THEYD GET IN VEGAS!??!?!
@@SaucyCharmander Yep. Not to mention that at one point, the plan had a clause where us Oakland residents would have had to PAY in taxes a large portion of the new stadium construction. Talk about highway robbery! John Fisher is scum.
But you need more money in Cali.
Do your research on John fisher and his ownership your not from the Bay so you wouldn’t understand 🤷🏽♂️💯💯
You're spot on a different "Money Ball".. I'm sad to see the team leave Oakland... The ticket prices are cheaper than SF Giants .. And I could tell the loyal fans at Oakland ..which needs the "Economic Engine"... The architecture firm planned images of the new bay stadium looked Fantastic....... Sad to see The failed Grants... Appreaciate your insights
Agreed. Definitely sad to see the A's leave Oakland. The proposed stadium idea did look pretty amazing. Maybe an expansion team will come back to Oakland one day. Thanks for stopping by!
This is far more on the government of Oakland than it is on The A's. 30 years of negotiation and Oakland won't let them do anything.
Oakland has lost all three major sports teams in a span of five years. This isn't an A's problem, it's an Oakland problem.
Nope it’s the A’S his a cheap owner Look at the other team he owns in San Jose Cheap Same thing his doing with the A’s
@@marvinfrederick6363 Look at The Raiders and Warriors. He doesn't own them.
The City of Oakland is chasing these teams away.
Agreed , but the once beautiful city of Oakland has become a dystopian landscape of crime and poverty. With tourism non existent and a corrupt political regime. Expecting to keep a franchise of any sort becomes an unwinnable war. Sad.
I'm just thankful that up here in Minnesota we were able to resolve any new Arena new stadium issues with all our professional teams but as of right now Target Center of the NBA's Timberwolves is the oldest arena in the NBA so we need to keep an eye on the Timberwolves ownership to see if they will stick around and help with financing for a new Arena and Minneapolis or if they're going to pull off what Norm Green did after buying out his other partners and was the owner of the North Stars back in the early 1990s and after that they became the Dallas Stars and then we had to go through a process to bring back the National Hockey League and now we have the Minnesota Wild and Xcel Energy Center in St Paul
If Fisher recognized the A's can't be profitable in Oakland, and moves the A's to Vegas, where the franchise triples in value, how is that being a bad owner?
Because he's purposely not getting and retaining the talent for the A's to be successful in Oakland.
The Oakland A’s average per season attendance from 2000-2019 was ….. 1.79 million and they had 5 seasons of over 2 million
If I'm not mistaken, the team will increase in value with the move to Vegas but, they won't own the land.
If they stay in Oakland , Fisher will own the real estate of the ballpark as well as it surroundings. BAY Area real estate is much more valuable than Vegas real estate, so in the long run, he'll be losing money by going to Vegas.
A good owner's goal isn't to increase profits my any means necessary, that is not how the entertainment industry works. You make money from providing a good product and developing a solid fanbase. The move to Vegas is only a band aid on the issue.
@@arizonawildcat3821 I would say it's impossible to create a loyal fan base in Oakland because the area the A's play in is so rampant with crime in a bad part of Oakland.
They’ve been trying to build a stadium since the mid-90s. Oakland isn’t a business friendly city. They wanted the A’s to pay for infrastructure and affordable housing near the new stadium costing 8 billion dollars. The stadium in Las Vegas is costing 1 billion dollars.
Same thing happen to us in montreal, its really sad 😢
Have you been to Oakland? That place sucks!
Oakland was NEVER behind the A's. Even in the 70's when they won 3 world titles. the attendance was bad, the city government did not help and the Raiders were the only team that was really promoted. I was and am an A's fan and lived through the the eara.
There was never an alternate timeline in which Oakland keeps the Athletics past 2030.
This tango had two dancers. First, you have a cheap owner. The only owner more cheap was the Expo murderer, Jeff Loria, who also killed the Marlins. Second is the city of Oakland. Let’s not kid ourselves. The city is slow to act…until after the last minute. The Warriors and Raiders left Oakland in recent years, after asking for a new stadium. Even after looking elsewhere for an opportunity (Warriors in San Jose…Raiders in LA(where they were previously), the city, which is incompetently run, did nothing. Only when the Raiders had already announced their move to Las Vegas, did the city make a proposal. The city lost 3 professional sport teams since 2019…4 overall, if you include the Golden Seals of the NHL.
Bad owner with poor city is always a recipe for disaster and relocation.
I feel bad for the Athletics fans of Bay Area, who don’t deserve it.
I agree with that you're saying but the fans, (or rather the lack thereof l,) play a major part into this too.
Yes, John Fisher is a piece of shit. Yes the Colisuem is a fucked up shitty venue. Yes the City of Oakland is incompetent and gas shown that they really didn't want my beloved Athletics in the city. However, with all those things coming into play I would be remiss not to mention the shitty fucked up fairweather "fans," the A's has.
Due to the fact the A's were immediately successful and up until 20 years ago they've always fielded competitive teams you would think that they would have developed a loyal, devoted, and dedicated fan base. The fucking Giants, Phillies, and Cubs did and those two teams spent most of their history mired in mediocrity or losing, but the A's didn't. When you go from selling out the Coliseum in the early aughts to averaging 9,000 a game 20 years later tells me that my beloved Athletics never really had a fan base in the Bay.
Montreal Expos allover again. Bad stadium. No spending. Farm team for other MLB teams. Provincial/local government will not assist with new ball park.Lots of upset fans. No attendance.
Omg what tv show was that at 0:51 ???
I understand that it’s trendy to criticize the owner of a relocating team and make them seem like the devil but this might be different. I don’t know, either Oakland got stuck with the three worst owners in sports or the city itself is the problem.
I feel it’s the city of Oakland’s fault. They lost the raiders twice the warriors and now they will lose the A’s. Both the Raiders and the A’s were trying for a long time to get a new stadium but kept failing. I figured that once the Raiders and Warriors left they would do what they can to keep the A’s.
The City of Oakland has lost three teams in five years. The Coliseum is outdated and the City focused on how much money they could get from the feds to build Howard Terminal. If the A's go up in value, then it will have been worth it for the owner. Oakland will have to decide if they want to rebuild the Coliseum for another professional baseball team or whether they will have low cost housing. The crime is out of control and that needs to be fixed before getting another baseball team.
To be fair, the Oakland fans abandoned the Athletics long time ago, so now they are reacting to the move out of Oakland
One thing that owners and managers did was strip it down and gut the roster after 2022
Unfortunately fair weather fans complain about the owners... I put all of the blame on the non functioning city government... They had decades to build a new stadium, but FAILED to do so...
If the city of Oakland wanted to keep Oakland, they could have made the new stadium happen sometime over the last two decades. This is 100% on the city, not on the ownership.
The owner Did you see how much his worth If not your blind and death Let him Bulid it
Always thought the Coliseum was a really pretty stadium. Before Mount Davis.
There is a lot of finger pointing going on. It's very simple, this ownership and the previous A's ownership requested help from the local and state governments for decades (not just the past couple of years). Clark County and the State of Nevada did in 8 weeks what those California government entities couldn't do in more than 20 years. Everyone needs to stop bashing the wrong people.
It's not the fans, it’s not the Commissioner, it's not the current A’s ownership, it wasn't the previous A’s ownership, it is not even the current City of Oakland administration; it is Alameda County, the previous City of Oakland administrations and the State of California. The Warriors, Raiders and now A's have one thing in common, they were all dealing with the same governmental agencies to improve their facilities, but it didn't happen for decades. Could all three major league franchises be wrong, and the City of Oakland, the County of Alameda & the State of California be right in playing "hard ball" with each other? Not likely.
Fisher invested more the $100 Mil. in the research for development, in good faith, to settling at the Howard Terminal site, but the clock just kept on ticking. By the time the new Mayor took office, it was already too late, the A's had already privately thrown in the towel in California, because of too many setbacks and wasted time in the past 8 years. MLB was going to stop their revenue sharing if they didn't have a solid site in place by the end of this year, so the quick approvals that came from the progressive State of Nevada (far less RED tape) proved to be the answer.
Don't fall for the hype of who’s at fault, place blame where the blame should be. Again, the previous administrations for The City of Oakland, the County of Alameda and the State of California should learn from a quote, from the late, great Vin Scully, who would say during his broadcast on a day the Dodgers were committing a bunch of errors on the field, "We Met The Enemy, And The Enemy Is Us".
John Fisher is to blame stop acting like he’s a saint
Las Vegas will be good for baseball.
Las Vegas won big time. Winner, winner, chicken dinner!
I think after five years, at best, maybe only a few years, they'll have one of the lower attendances in the league, given the size of the city. I'm thinking their attendance will be similar to Kansas City or Miami.
This situation is similar to which comes first. The chicken or the egg.
Calling Fisher the worst is only partially valid. Oakland is a terrible place for sports. After losing the Warriors *and* the Raiders plus the fact that this isn't a new issue. Oakland itself has more responsibility than just "a little"
The reason why the A’s aren’t supported locally is because of the ownership. The reason why they don’t have a new stadium is because of both city and ownership.
Plenty of teams have had shitty ownership and were far less successful than the A's were, but they had a loyal fan base. The A's unfortunately have a shitty fan base.
Life like stadiums are a funny thing. Some people go to a game and have a great time. Others go and are miserable and complain about the experience. It all boils down to expectations. The most brutal thing I ever experienced was the raider fan base especially if you were there to take in a game and rooted for the opposing team. Even with that factored in, I saw my team spank the raiders 3 years and the experience was awesome. The restrooms were the most vile disgusting thing I can recall as far as infrastructure. Never saw any moths or feral cats.
When going to the As games as a kid through to adult it was great. Never forget seeing the walking triple (rickey Henderson) or the swinging As during their heyday and visiting as part of little league for the tickets we sold. Good times. Wish the city would have found a way to work something out for the stadium (with the different owners over the years) which we all know has been going on for decades. From a business side though, oakland has turned into a cesspool and visiting anything there can be dicey. Oh well thanks for the memories Rickey Henderson, vida blue, sal bando, joe rudi, reggie jackson, dennis eckersley amongst others.
What you did not show was a ranking of baseball teams in terms of local revenue, which includes local broadcasts, merchandise, tickets, etc. I suspect you'd find the A's in last place. So where does the money come from for Fisher to pay big contracts. Granted, he bled the team, but I blame the City of Oakland more than ownership failings for the A's to flee to Las Vegas.
Now, it’s time to bring back the Expos!!!
John Fisher is a business man and he's making a business decision.
I blame the city. How tf are they gonna be in talks for decades upon decades, and nothing come out of that? Oakland ran out their three teams and it’s sad.
Absolutely, the best analogy of the A’s and Ebenezer Scrooge Fisher. He is a despicable owner.
I would be very surprised that the A's will be able to stay in Vegas very long, it's a touristy city and it probably won't be able to draw huge fans year after year.
It's hard to predict. Baseball has 10 times as many home games as football. So you need that consistent fan base. Casinos and travel agencies will offer free tickets for tourists but will the permanent residents support the team enough. I'm guessing ticket prices will be pretty high. The A's will have to bring in a few big free agents to bring fans in.
@@johnnypalooka Bringing in free agents isn't going to happen because the p.o.s. Fisher isn't doing it now.
WE NEED A NEW OWNER!!! Willing to invest in good players instead of selling them. If not this team will continue to be a farm team for the rest of the league. It is autrocious how many oakland A's players are now with other teams including the head coach
No, the Oakland A's were ruined by the Oakland citizens that voted for the mayors and city officials (who have continued to failed their city) for the past 20 years.
It has always amazed me how if someone has enough money to buy something, it automatically makes them smart enough to run it.
This owner doomed us once they took over, also our council members and mayor's office have shown they don't care. Other mayor's have understood how important and detrimental it is for the city to retain sports teams. The supposed leadership of this city are charging taxpayers for what? Causing a client up on international Ave, redoing the streets, but not where the pot holes are. Where us the money going? Who's pockets are being lined? Truthfully These last few mayor's gave no insight and understanding of how important these sports teams are to oakland. Seems like they don't care and are into doing whatever to put the city in a desperate place of despair without nothing to dustract or help root for, or b proud of. I don't believe they are true people of oakland, people who know, care and understand the roots. NOT TURNING THIS INTO ANYTHING ABOUT RACE, BUT ALL THE AFRICAN AMERICANS MAYOR'S, UNDERSOOD THE VALUE AND CARED ABOUT THE TRADITIONS. WHAT DO WE DO, LOOK ELSEWHERE, OUTSIDE OF OAKLAND. THE CHILDREN OF OAKLAND WHO ARE AND WERE INSPIRED TO PLAY SPORTS BECAUSE OF OUR TEAMS, HAVE what now? As I was 12 years old and playing baseball inspired by homegrown players such as Dave Stewart and Ricky Henderson, right b4 our baberuth Allstars was about to start, the oakland As donated and invested in us, by putting up night lights and redoing the field, green man on 66th Ave. It was the best, I recall all players and parents thankfully and us kids were really stoked, we got to play under the lights for the first time like professionals, on a field that they redone to look like a major league field.
For whatever reason, John Fisher doesn't really care about the team .. it's not just Oakland that is affected, it's the whole east bay. . the move to Las Vegas for a franchise that plays 162 games a year and for a city with only about 600,000 might become disastrous. . sure Vegas is a nice place to let loose. . not sure if the A's will thrive there. . the Raiders have some regrets about having other teams fans rule the roost at their new home. . as Marc Davis. . Sad news for real A's fans.
Fisher views my beloved Athletics as nothing more than a hellified passive evenue stream. I support the move to Vegas because the harsh fucked up reality of the situation is my beloved Athletics doesn't have a fan base in Oakland. The A's might have a total of 15,000 fans in the Bay.
My fear is that when the A's move and the novelty of baseball in Vegas wears off and attendance drops my beloved Athletics will become remixed version of the Ray's they'll only be averging 13K a night. Then you have factor in the the p.o.s. Fisher's business model of not keeping and getting the talent necessary to make the A's a winning team. Am I supposed to believe that when tbe A's get to Vegas he's going to "do a 180," and increase player payroll to keep the talent we already have and the free agents we need to get a ring?
Some in Vegas don't want them. Vegas honeymoon is almost over with the Raiders. Las Vegas is thinking; 'you're not taking advantage of Vegas are you? We have the Golden Knights. Why do we need another team from Oakland?'
The A's have been demanding a new stadium for decades and the city of Oakland won't do it. They finally said fuck you Oakland we're moving
That note was like breaking up with someone thru text
As a kid I loved the A’s. But since the early 2000s, it’s just impossible to support them. Teams need hero’s, and the As just haven’t had any around long enough to inspire loyalty.
Despite the fact of the A's not keeping talent due to their success you would think that they would have built up enough capital to have a large loyal fan base, but they don't. The harsh reality of the situation us my beloved Athletics have a shitty fairweather fan base.
1 Warrior's, 2 Raiders, 3 A's,
Three Strikes "Your Out" at The Ole Ballgame
this video is propaganda to take attention off a political party that has no idea on what their doing...
God Bless Oakland. There is more to life than sports. Howard Cosell said it best, "In that time, I came to realize, however reluctantly, that there was an inexorable force working against revelations of truth about sports in America. That force exists in the form of an unholy alliance between the three television networks and the sports print medium. It is the fundamental purpose of both, for their own reasons, to exalt sports, to regale the games, the fights, the races, whatever, to the point where these contests are indoctrinated into the public mind as virtual religious rituals."
Is plenty of blame to go around the Oakland City Council didn't help much either and I believe that if the city would have helped the owner of the team I spent more for its players knowing it was going to play in a better ballpark
This is a progressive move for the Athletics as this would turn them into title contenders once again.
How? The p.o.s. Fisher has demonstrated during his tenure as owner that he won't get (nor is he willing to retain,) the talent necessary to make my beloved Athletics into a winning team. Why would he suddenly change his business model with a move to Vegas?
Wrong dream on
If they were willing to pay for a new stadium themselves and the city couldn't male that happen I'd be blaming the people you're electing more than anything.
I don't know. The City of Oakland and fans have played their part.
Who’s worse, Fisher or Spanos?
The A's were willing to pay for the new stadium themselves. The notion the owner was cheap in the past...was the past. They tried to build a stadium but the city due to politics turned down the offer. The end.
John Fisher never cared about this team or the fans. Ever.
What the hell difference does it make, the A’s rate no better than a farm team. Good riddance.
This video is one year old and the A’s are no closer to LV now than they were last year.
Perhaps Oakland was destroyed by bad political hacks,elected by the "fans".
Is it true that Raiders owner Mark Davis is having a falling down fit over the Las Vegas A's??????????
The Oakland politicians outsmarted themselves now they have nothing
The A's ownership has been cheap for over 30 years now. Can't completely blame Oakland. Also, I hate Moneyball.
Fisher is being enabled by all MLB owners. They care about a bottom line, which is fine with tourism attendance, at the expence of the actual fans. Also sickening to see the Golden Knights (one of the few teams in the 4 major sports I actively am upset whenever I see headlines about them doing well for starting the Vegas sports trend and how they've treated players like Fleury) advising them. The one thing the Golden Knights have: they didn't rip an established team away from genuine fans. Fisher is doing that. I'm an A's fan as long as the team is in Oakland, at an arena with free street parking close by and a garden with edible plants in the stadium. But Fisher certainly isn't making the end easy. While I don't know for sure I suspect I'll feel the same way St Louis fans feel about the Rams (except potentially worse due to compounding my existing feelings on the Golden Knights whom are advising Fisher).
Question....where are all these A's fans? Or should I say where were they? Because they sure aren't at the games? It's a mess and it's not entirely the owners fault.
If Oakland had heart they would DEMAND they keep their name and colors. Take up some pride OAKLAND
So now Oakland will still have the dumpy old Coliseum but no sports teams. That doesn't seem to make much sense. Why not build two new stadiums for the Raiders and A's to keep them in Oakland and get rid of the Coliseum instead?
Build a Costco on the site.
Also they have a home in California. That's just bad luck and no ownerships fault.
Oakland is a hellhole. But it didn't have to be this way. It must've been a nice place to live at one point.
The fans deserve some responsibility.
Exactly. When you're averaging only 9K a game, (despite the success the A's have had and selling out 20 years ago,) that's telling me that A's never really had a fan base in the Bay.
John Fisher is not the worst owner in modern day sports!
There are many many worst than him.
Oakland government shares the blame along with John Fisher.
It’s not the owners. Oakland is a dump. How many teams have left Oakland? How many teams are coming to Oakland?
This is life imitating art (Major League).
A's should have changed their name SF A's of Oakland, then just dump "of Oakland" later. Just having SF in their name is probably worth millions...
Actually, it is Oakland to blame.
Wait a minute the A’s have just bought land. MLB still has to vote for relocation hard for me to believe they will let them move what needs to happen that horrible ownership needs to sell that’s it. Just a tired fan⚾️❤️
They could sneak out of town just like the Baltimore Colts did in 1983
They deserve to dissolve for ruining baseball with money ball
Here's the big question. Will John J Fisher now spend money in Las Vegas on the baseball team.
Fuck no.
Oakland is a third world city, smart to move before it gets worse
In reality both the City Of Oakland is to blame and bad ownership
Just looking at the owners tell it, they don't have that honest go get em look. Some sort if sit back, scam it , fake it till u make it look. Some sor of we bought for this price, even though they have done nothing,looking to squeeze as much money out of the team as possible
bad ownership? I guess Oakland is just UNLUCKY. 3 teams have left already and the MLB remaining team has been trying to get a new stadium for 2 decades? much like the Raiders, who left came back and left again....Boy, John Fisher is one Big Influencer if you believe this?
John Fisher is the owner you fucking clown. The Raiders went to Vegas for money and the Warriors always wanted to move to SF, didn’t care what Oakland offered. Think before you speak oldhead, John fisher isn’t a saint you bum.
I did not know that Moneyball was their brain child. It serves them right for not servicing the fans. I remember the A's from the days of Jackson and Billy Ball, and they've never been hot contenders save for once or twice. They want to leave? Fine by me. Good riddance.
No its the owner fisher he has enouigh money to go to any ciry in the bay area elsewhere besuudes oakland.
Billionaires can rebuild entire sections of cities in far less than 20 years. The whole idea billionaires will never say out loud but actually live by: Never spend your own money. In order for any city to come up with one billion dollars for anything you are taking away from someone and something. Money for the arts, education/schools, health clinics, roads and bridges, libraries, police and fire departments. These soulless vessels who own pro sports franchise do not care. They don't own their own stadiums because, once gain, they'd have to spend money. MLB commish and ownership lackey Rob Manfred should have stepped in long ago, telling Fisher to sell the team or MLB would work out a plan with the city of Oakland, build a new stadium and Fisher would have to reimburse MLB for the cost.
But now the city owns a stadium, arena, and a large parking lot not generating any significant revenues or taxes... Stupid is as stupid does... The city will most likely demolish both soon as without generating any rent their properties are a maintenance drain... The attitude of you need us more than we need you nonsense FAILED four times...
I'm not an Oakland fan but maybe if everyone leaves all the time the problem ain't with the owners. Just sayin. Then again, the A's have a long storied history of ripping great teams apart. I hated the A's of the early 70s because Reggie, Catfish, Sal, Rollie, and the rest of that dysfunctional bunch beat my team on a regular basis. So I laughed my ass off when Charlie Finley had the fire-sale that broke that bunch apart. Since then, I guess I've been neutral on them. Anyway, good luck Oakland. Frisco isn't that far a drive I hear.
Why does he need them ??? . Oakland should re-name the coliseum until they leave the A's at A-hole stadium 😮❤😂 till there new stadium is ready
As a baseball fan in general (Go go White SOX!), I feel very sorry for the city of Oakland.
They lost the Raiders in 2020 to Vegas, the Golden State Warriors two years ago to San Francisco, and now they are about to lose the Athletics (again to Vegas). I hope after all this has blown over Oaktown gets another chance with an MLB expansion team.
Hard to see MLB taking the risk on needing to deal with Oakland ever again. If there is ever another Bay Area MLB team, I'd think San Jose is more likely.
As a fan in San Diego, once a team leaves it poisons the league against you. NBA never considered us for expansion after Donald Sterling took the Clippers to his hometown in LA. NFL will not return either. There's no stadium to play in anymore.
They also lost their NHL team the Oakland Seals
Oakland has zero chance of an expansion team.
Going back to Charlie Finley they don't keep any of their stars.
A's should have been able to move to San Jose.
The plot of the film Major League being played out.