@@joshuabishop1343 sorry I didn't mean to speak for all Las Vegas residents. During my last visit there, all the locals I talked to said they wanted a new expansion MLB franchise, and not the A's. The city's relationship with the Las Vegas Knights (an organic, local brand) is much different than with the NFL Raiders (which feels like a franchise "on loan.")
@@KidFresh71... Move them to a better facility in Salt Lake City. Overall... MLB owners need to get their act together... FIRE Rob " Manfraud" Manfred and force Fisher to sell. They're already "forking" over their money, THEIR FANBASE'S $$$$ to fill that stingy weasels pocket.
@@KidFresh71I think the other issue is that they tore down the Tropicana to make it happen despite there being plenty of other more suitable places. My parents live in Vegas and most people have resentment towards this move especially because of where the stadium is going to be... Not only right on the strip but also near the airport. It has a lot of potential to cause terrible traffic.
You got it 100% correct. As a fan for 48 years, I took my A’s decal of my truck and refused to go to another game two years ago. Very sad. Thanks for your true content
He also kicked the Raiders out of Oakland just to follow them to Vegas he signed a lease behind their back when the two teams were both supposed to come together to build two new facilities in that parking lot
@@youngf.l.y.1467 Why not? I'm not saying that the teams should all be owned by the community like the Packers. I don't think that would work for a variety of reasons. But the governing body of the sports organization could do what it needed to do to create parity. It does that with owners right now. Not sure why that wouldn't work if collectives owned the teams.
The whole sticky mess the A's find themselves in did NOT begin with John Fisher. It began when Steven Schott and Ken Hoffman bought the team after Walter Haas sadly passed away. They have never been the same since. John Fisher only made the situation worse. EVEN MORE worse was the fact that now former MLB commissioner Bud Selig let it happen because of his "buddy-buddy" relationship with Fisher.
I really hope the A's come back to Oakland after their temporary Sacramento stint. I hate John Fischer so much and hope all the bad luck follows him out the door
That 10 year lease at the Coliseum is a HUGE reason the raiders left. It made it impossible for the Raiders to invest any money into the stadium and botched their 2013 plans for a new Oakland football AND baseball stadium on the Coliseum site
The longer videos are really fun to make and I definitely plan on making more! I love the process of finding small details that people may not have looked into. Really appreciate you watching!
No discussion of the lack of action on the part of the MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred. He’s gonna let Fisher move the team and then sell it. He oughta force Fisher to keep the team in Oakland.
Nothing is more maddening / frustrating for a fan than having a turd for a team owner. I live near Baltimore and suffered through Bob Irsay and Peter Angelos, and also got to watch firsthand Daniel Synder ruin DC's NFL team. Hang in there, Oakland.
Dugout Chronicles Please consider making a sequel of this video to show how this man is currently destroying the San Jose Earthquakes of the MLS. He is currently using the same business model as with the Athletics… 1. Sell all talent 2. Alienate the Fans 3. Cry to local government that the stadium is decaying 4. Reduce operational staff Sound familiar???
0:05 Hi, how are you? I think your opening was a rhetorical question but sadly, for the die hard fans of the Montreal Expos. We may have an interesting answer to that question but I'll check out the video before comparing The A's, who played their last year in Oakland, mere days ago & The Montreal Expos, who started playing in 1969 and by an odd coincidence, 2o years ago, the Expos played their LAST GAME IN MONTREAL (2004). For now, it's back to your documentary, which I am looking forward to. Cheers
The A's are my Favorite American League Team and I really hope things do get better for the A's...I have seen many great A's players get traded or lost through free agency...And the A's are also the only team to not have protection nets and a rail on the dugout in their stadium...That's how cheap the owner is...Great Video 👍
I don’t get what the fans think they’re accomplishing with their reverse boycott. Why would Fisher announce a franchise move to Las Vegas and then sell the team?
@@Icecreamforcrowtoo Shows to who? Ticket attendance was in the toilet. The stadium needed to be replaced 20 years ago. Oakland is a city in precipitous decline. The spike in fan interest for the reverse boycott isn't a trend of viability. Every team that moves sees a spike in interest. Every business that closes does great business in its final days. That means nothing. The idea that it has to do with Oakland constantly dumping star players-consider that the As have been an above average team in both winning and years with star players. Besides the unlimited casino money, Vegas is now also a booming middle-class town, what Oakland was in 1960.
@@tonyconiglio6941 They were regularly drawing over 20K fans a game in 2018 and 2019 when they had a competitive team. That's better than many markets with nicer stadiums. So they were drawing over 20K while playing in a crappy stadium with an owner who, despite qualifying for revenue sharing, never put anything into the place. I've been to Oakland Coliseum. They still have troughs in the men's restrooms. That's not the fans' fault! Imagine your hometown franchise having an owner that never signed a big player and traded away all of your best ones. That's how it was for over twenty years in Oakland. Attendance was not "in the toilet" until after covid (2021) when the owner traded away all of the A's best talent (or offered insulting deals to guys like Semien). It's not like it's that difficult to find out what the Oakland A's attendance has been since Fisher has owned the team. You can google it, guy. It wasn't "in the toilet." Considering the way he ran that team for twenty years, it was actually pretty good. They didn't start hitting these awful 3K a game numbers until the writing was on the wall that the owner was not intending to work with the city of Oakland and had already made his mind up and was pivoting to Vegas. Look, I'm not even an Oakland A's fan. But I'm not some gullible fool who can't remember how things were a few years ago. The A's are in the same division as the team I follow. I know that place can draw. MLB for whatever reason just doesn't want a team in Oakland. "Besides the unlimited casino money, Vegas is now also a booming middle-class town, what Oakland was in 1960." Vegas is a smaller market than the Bay Area. There's video of Selig crying about the A's being in Oakland as far back as 2001. He was whining about them "hurting the Giants." Fisher is actually buddies with Selig too. The A's are moving from the sixth largest market which can, despite popular misconception, draw. They're going from there to what will be the 30th largest market in MLB. If it was impossible to draw in Oakland like you're implying, the attendance wouldn't have been what it was in 2018 or 2019 when the team was decent and you wouldn't have guys like Bill Gates and Reggie Jackson and Joe Lacob offering to buy with team with the expressed purpose of keeping the team in Oakland. If keeping a team in Oakland was such a losing proposition, no one would be offering to buy the team from Fisher.
Not sure about payrolls but I know the Haas family (who used to own the team) certainly doesn't seem to approve of the way Fisher has run the team. You don't have to be a soulless money grubbing prick just because you're a billionaire who owns a sports team. You won't go bankrupt by having a shred of decency like the Haas family seemed to have.
I just re ently saw them at Citi Field against the Mets. I pointed out to their fans that the team wearing green/ gold were actually the Las Vegas Aviators disguised as a MLB team. Hey!! They did beat the Mets 2 out of 3 games ...a team with a payroll 5 TIMES HIGHER THAN THE A'S
You can't blame somebody for increasing profits for their business. Everybody hates Fisher, but what is he supposed to do? It's quite obvious to me that locating a professional sports franchise in Oakland is a recipe for bankruptcy. Oakland has no money for a stadium, cannot protect businesses located there from crime, has no ability to attract and pay either homegrown talent or free agents, and cannot get fans with money to the stadium. Businesses are supposed to make money, not lose money. Even I understand this. The Raiders and Warriors left for a reason. Nobody is calling both those owners evil... If you think businesses are viable in Oakland, just ask In N Out Burger or Denny's why they shuttered their businesses just down the street from the Coliseum... I commend Fisher for leaving that crap-hole. Blame the politicians and citizens of Oakland, not the owner of the A's, Raiders or Warriors...
@@seasonaldepressioncomics434 I agree, but that's what Vegas is offering. If Vegas is dumb enough to do that, why not take it? Oakland sure isn't offering anything, but I do agree cities should not give taxpayer money to billionaires.
@@ClassicJukeboxBand Vegas doesn't have concrete plans either. They haven't passed any measures or secured the funding. They have concepts of a plan lol
"It's quite obvious to me that locating a professional sports franchise in Oakland is a recipe for bankruptcy." No, it's not. Last I checked, the Haas family (who owned the Athletics for years) are pretty far from being bankrupt. Oakland was far from being a plush bed of roses even in the 1980s when that family ran things. Then you have Joseph Lacob (owner of the GS Warriors) who offered to buy the team from Fisher and would have kept the team in Oakland. You, like most of the people who defend Fisher, have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not even an Oakland resident or even a CA resident. But I've been to Oakland and I've been to an A's game and I can easily say you're just talking out of your ass and plain ignorant, here. And comparing a Denny's or an In N Out Burger in a rough neighborhood to sports franchise that would have gotten some public funding on the Howard Terminal is just moronic. The politicians of Oakland are almost assuredly inept. But that doesn't mean you have to side with a petty, mean-spirited bad faith billionaire owner who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth over the people of Oakland. If the Tigers can stay viable in Detroit or the Orioles viable in Baltimore or the White Sox viable on the south side of Chicago, then there's no reason Oakland could not also stay viable for the Athletics. Hell, they drew nearly 2 million fans annually inside of a dump that the owner wouldn't even minimally invest in. And he wouldn't invest in the dump (which he allowed to decay further on his watch) after he sabotaged the place for the Raiders who were trying to get a new stadium built for BOTH franchises. Fisher has just as much to do with Raiders leaving Oakland as the most inept city council member residing in Oakland. It was only after covid when Fisher sold off everything (in terms of talent) and jacked up ticket prices where a MASSIVE drop off in attendance was seen. The fans got the message. And that was all by design on the part of ownership. If what you were saying about crime and professional sports was true (and that was the only factor in play), the Yankees would have gone out of business or relocated during the 1970s on account of being located within the Bronx in an era where most of NYC looked like what you see in the film, Taxi Driver. This whole "crime is the reason" is such a dumb, ignorant talking point. It certainly doesn't help make Oakland attractive. But it's hardly forcing Fisher's hand or anything. You can run a viable team in Oakland which has been done for decades before Fisher owned the team. "You can't blame somebody for increasing profits for their business." Wrong. You absolutely can blame 'somebody' for putting profits over people depending on context. I would be sympathetic if Fisher did not buy a sports team in a market that had decades of stored up history within a community and whose 'market' still showed viability like Oakland's does. Like if the BS about him going bankrupt by owning the A's was true (it's not), I'd maybe be a bit more sympathetic. But what he's doing... like you're saying here and DEFENDING...is wanting to "increase profits for business." In other words, he's a greedy billionaire who wants more for himself at the expense of an entire community. Forgive us for judging those values. How dare we! Oakland itself is plenty viable, though. No one is going to go bankrupt owning a franchise in Oakland. Obviously, he's free as the owner to do what he wants because MLB and the other owners who could block this move caved (because they want the same freedom to exploit the communities where their teams are located), but ordinary people without billions like Fisher are also free to judge him harshly as they should, in my estimation. It's not enough that billionaires have the freedom crap on ordinary people. But now we have people like yourself who want to carry water for these billionaires and tell the rest of us not to judge them for being outrageously greedy. Just risible.
LOL. John Fisher acting as if a new stadium is gonna fix all the problems. Well....until he changes his approach to managing this storied franchise, he will have his new stadium, empty and devoid of fans.
Remember the saying “rich people don’t like to spend their own money..they like to spend other people’s money”….this is this guy. He will probably go to hell..
does the state of the city of Oakland have anything to do with this? i feel like it does, the city is in utter decay. I don't feel safe going anywhere in Oakland.
Let’s face some facts. Oakland isn’t a major league town. Raiders? Gone Golden State? Out of There! It’s never been an attractive venue but when they built Mt Davis to temporarily get the Raiders back the ruined the park for baseball
I'm not on the owner's side or anything, but that whole reverse boycott thing? 27,000 fans isn't really a capacity crowd. You figured if they really wanted to send a message it would have sold out. And honestly, you can't rebuild the coliseum. You need a new stadium to keep up with the standards of Major league baseball. And this guy is not going to sell. I'm surprised Major league baseball let him get away with having a team in such a dilapidated place and basically neglecting his team to the point where they're like a Semi-Pro ball team. That whole situation is a black eye to baseball.
That's a pretty good sized crowd considering it was an 'organic' effort coming from a fan base that supposedly 'won't support' the team. It's not like these fans just owned the airwaves and could hype the thing to death like a U2 concert or something.
The Athletics have been trying to leave the Coliseum for six decades, even before Fisher. Fisher came in and proposed legitimate plans for new stadiums. The team always insisted on a location near a BART station. Seating ranged from 35,000 to 50,000. One proposal landed on 35,000. So what happened? After Fisher spent tens of millions on plans and surveyors and city/county paperwork, the city balked at the idea. The city and county owns the coliseum and refused to repair. The mayor is under FBI investigation for fraud, misappropriation of funds, etc. The city is bankrupt. They are finally trying to clear out the homeless even though the homeless have no place to go. Businesses already left Oakland. Businesses are even leaving San Francisco. The Bay Area is a bad place to invest in now. Five, ten years maybe it will change. I remember leaving Oracle arena after Warriors games and barely hearing A’s fans next door. If Fisher invested half a billion dollars in a new stadium now, the mayor would steal half of it. It is a goddamn shame. People of Oakland need those jobs.
Oakland is a dumpster fire for any business. I don’t blame him for taking the team and leaving. I do blame him for refusing to add stars to the team. With relocation it’s good to have leaders to galvanize the players and fans
Fisher is bad for sure, but hold on! The city of Oakland "government" sucks. If I am wrong, ask this Q: Will Oakland ever get another MLB team? No. Oakland is so bad that MLB is allowing the A's to go to a minor league park to get out of that $&it hole. I suspect Fisher refused to give that city anything after the fall-out years ago. Sure, he let the stadium rot. In a way, I think the mayor get what was deserved.
No discussion of the lack of action on the part of the MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred. He’s gonna let Fisher move the team and then sell it. He oughta force Fisher to keep the team in Oakland.
Vegas doesn't even want the A's. The whole situation is so sad.
It is so unfortunate. Appreciate you watching.
Ya we do boi
@@joshuabishop1343 sorry I didn't mean to speak for all Las Vegas residents. During my last visit there, all the locals I talked to said they wanted a new expansion MLB franchise, and not the A's. The city's relationship with the Las Vegas Knights (an organic, local brand) is much different than with the NFL Raiders (which feels like a franchise "on loan.")
@@KidFresh71... Move them to a better facility in Salt Lake City.
Overall... MLB owners need to get their act together... FIRE Rob " Manfraud" Manfred and force Fisher to sell. They're already "forking" over their money, THEIR FANBASE'S $$$$ to fill that stingy weasels pocket.
@@KidFresh71I think the other issue is that they tore down the Tropicana to make it happen despite there being plenty of other more suitable places. My parents live in Vegas and most people have resentment towards this move especially because of where the stadium is going to be... Not only right on the strip but also near the airport. It has a lot of potential to cause terrible traffic.
You got it 100% correct. As a fan for 48 years, I took my A’s decal of my truck and refused to go to another game two years ago. Very sad. Thanks for your true content
He also kicked the Raiders out of Oakland just to follow them to Vegas he signed a lease behind their back when the two teams were both supposed to come together to build two new facilities in that parking lot
Fisher is why teams should be community owned like the Packers are.
Then there would be no parity
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Why not? I'm not saying that the teams should all be owned by the community like the Packers. I don't think that would work for a variety of reasons. But the governing body of the sports organization could do what it needed to do to create parity. It does that with owners right now. Not sure why that wouldn't work if collectives owned the teams.
How does the ownership of stocks mean community owned?
The whole sticky mess the A's find themselves in did NOT begin with John Fisher. It began when Steven Schott and Ken Hoffman bought the team after Walter Haas sadly passed away. They have never been the same since. John Fisher only made the situation worse. EVEN MORE worse was the fact that now former MLB commissioner Bud Selig let it happen because of his "buddy-buddy" relationship with Fisher.
I been saying 93 2024 on cheap and 2 owners ruin our team
I really hope the A's come back to Oakland after their temporary Sacramento stint. I hate John Fischer so much and hope all the bad luck follows him out the door
It's almost as if he was dead set on getting revenge on the A's for defeating his beloved Giants in the '89 series 🏆⚾
The A's relocation to Las Vegas is a 🤡 show & John Fisher is the head 🤡
You absolutely get it. Thanks for documenting history. The A's belong home in Oakland... Oakland A's Forever!! #SellTheTeam
Loved learning more about the team and sharing! #SellTheTeam and Thank you so much for watching!
As belong in Philadelphia
@@Dischingo Like they didn't land the Phillies GTFOH
Fisher should fall into a gap.
That 10 year lease at the Coliseum is a HUGE reason the raiders left. It made it impossible for the Raiders to invest any money into the stadium and botched their 2013 plans for a new Oakland football AND baseball stadium on the Coliseum site
Also omg I parked next to homeboy at 15:40 for the last game LOL
Fisher: "The Coliseum is at the end of its life"
Roots and Soul: "No it's not, we'll play there"
1:51 The only team other than the Yankees to win three consecutive World Series.
I love how detailed your video gets, always want your videos to be longer
The longer videos are really fun to make and I definitely plan on making more! I love the process of finding small details that people may not have looked into. Really appreciate you watching!
Thank you for making the video and using some of my footage and sharing the truth.
#FJF #SellTheTeam
The Oakland Athletics' ownership after Walter A. Haas died in 1995 is the one of the worst in baseball.
No discussion of the lack of action on the part of the MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred. He’s gonna let Fisher move the team and then sell it. He oughta force Fisher to keep the team in Oakland.
Damn, this is the third vid I’ve watched on this channel before noticing the sub count. This is prime content. Excited to see this channel pop off!
Thanks Spec! Trying to make content people enjoy. Appreciate you watching!
I agree
Nothing is more maddening / frustrating for a fan than having a turd for a team owner. I live near Baltimore and suffered through Bob Irsay and Peter Angelos, and also got to watch firsthand Daniel Synder ruin DC's NFL team. Hang in there, Oakland.
No way you're below 1K subs.
Time to change that, your content is quality!
Thanks! Subscribers will come, just gotta keep putting out good content! Really appreciate you watching and following along!
Dugout Chronicles
Please consider making a sequel of this video to show how this man is currently destroying the San Jose Earthquakes of the MLS.
He is currently using the same business model as with the Athletics…
1. Sell all talent
2. Alienate the Fans
3. Cry to local government that the stadium is decaying
4. Reduce operational staff
Sound familiar???
0:05
Hi, how are you?
I think your opening was a rhetorical question but sadly, for the die hard fans of the Montreal Expos. We may have an interesting answer to that question but I'll check out the video before comparing The A's, who played their last year in Oakland, mere days ago
&
The Montreal Expos, who started playing in 1969 and by an odd coincidence, 2o years ago, the Expos played their LAST GAME IN MONTREAL (2004).
For now, it's back to your documentary, which I am looking forward to.
Cheers
I thought this video would be about Jerry Reinsdorf
He is the owner in the major league movie, but he sadly won.
Great video bro
Thank you! Means a lot. Appreciate you watching!
Warriors left Oakland for san Francisco.. sometimes they wear unies that say "san Francisco ".
The A's are my Favorite American League Team and I really hope things do get better for the A's...I have seen many great A's players get traded or lost through free agency...And the A's are also the only team to not have protection nets and a rail on the dugout in their stadium...That's how cheap the owner is...Great Video 👍
I don’t get what the fans think they’re accomplishing with their reverse boycott. Why would Fisher announce a franchise move to Las Vegas and then sell the team?
It shows the owner is full of crap when he says there is no interest in Oakland.
To me I got the impression that they were mocking him by packing the stadium.
@@Icecreamforcrowtoo Shows to who? Ticket attendance was in the toilet. The stadium needed to be replaced 20 years ago. Oakland is a city in precipitous decline. The spike in fan interest for the reverse boycott isn't a trend of viability. Every team that moves sees a spike in interest. Every business that closes does great business in its final days. That means nothing. The idea that it has to do with Oakland constantly dumping star players-consider that the As have been an above average team in both winning and years with star players. Besides the unlimited casino money, Vegas is now also a booming middle-class town, what Oakland was in 1960.
@@tonyconiglio6941
They were regularly drawing over 20K fans a game in 2018 and 2019 when they had a competitive team. That's better than many markets with nicer stadiums. So they were drawing over 20K while playing in a crappy stadium with an owner who, despite qualifying for revenue sharing, never put anything into the place. I've been to Oakland Coliseum. They still have troughs in the men's restrooms. That's not the fans' fault!
Imagine your hometown franchise having an owner that never signed a big player and traded away all of your best ones. That's how it was for over twenty years in Oakland.
Attendance was not "in the toilet" until after covid (2021) when the owner traded away all of the A's best talent (or offered insulting deals to guys like Semien). It's not like it's that difficult to find out what the Oakland A's attendance has been since Fisher has owned the team. You can google it, guy. It wasn't "in the toilet." Considering the way he ran that team for twenty years, it was actually pretty good. They didn't start hitting these awful 3K a game numbers until the writing was on the wall that the owner was not intending to work with the city of Oakland and had already made his mind up and was pivoting to Vegas.
Look, I'm not even an Oakland A's fan. But I'm not some gullible fool who can't remember how things were a few years ago. The A's are in the same division as the team I follow. I know that place can draw. MLB for whatever reason just doesn't want a team in Oakland.
"Besides the unlimited casino money, Vegas is now also a booming middle-class town, what Oakland was in 1960."
Vegas is a smaller market than the Bay Area. There's video of Selig crying about the A's being in Oakland as far back as 2001. He was whining about them "hurting the Giants." Fisher is actually buddies with Selig too. The A's are moving from the sixth largest market which can, despite popular misconception, draw. They're going from there to what will be the 30th largest market in MLB.
If it was impossible to draw in Oakland like you're implying, the attendance wouldn't have been what it was in 2018 or 2019 when the team was decent and you wouldn't have guys like
Bill Gates and Reggie Jackson and Joe Lacob offering to buy with team with the expressed purpose of keeping the team in Oakland. If keeping a team in Oakland was such a losing proposition, no one would be offering to buy the team from Fisher.
Um…….The A’s have had near bottom payrolls every year way before Fisher. That’s not new.
ummm.....this is not true
Not sure about payrolls but I know the Haas family (who used to own the team) certainly doesn't seem to approve of the way Fisher has run the team. You don't have to be a soulless money grubbing prick just because you're a billionaire who owns a sports team. You won't go bankrupt by having a shred of decency like the Haas family seemed to have.
Moneyball worked? How many championships did they win?
Wrong. It's Bob Nutting
I just re ently saw them at Citi Field against the Mets. I pointed out to their fans that the team wearing green/ gold were actually the Las Vegas Aviators disguised as a MLB team.
Hey!! They did beat the Mets 2 out of 3 games ...a team with a payroll 5 TIMES HIGHER THAN THE A'S
To be fair Oakland is a shithole now. I'd want to get out too.
Unfortunately, it is not the owners fault. It is Oakland's fault. It is like playing baseball on skidrow.
A's have moved twice before. They left Phili and Kansas before Oakland 😅
Good to see a vid with this title and it isn't about Arte lmao
New video idea? lol Thanks for watching! Really appreciate you!
You make some good content and you look like some one with 1 million subscribers
Yo! Really appreciate this. Maybe one day, just want to keep putting out content people enjoy. Thank you for watching!
I Would Of Loved For Fisher To Have Just Sold The Team To Joe Jacob When Joe Jacob Proposed To Buy The Team Back In 2012.
You can't blame somebody for increasing profits for their business. Everybody hates Fisher, but what is he supposed to do? It's quite obvious to me that locating a professional sports franchise in Oakland is a recipe for bankruptcy.
Oakland has no money for a stadium, cannot protect businesses located there from crime, has no ability to attract and pay either homegrown talent or free agents, and cannot get fans with money to the stadium. Businesses are supposed to make money, not lose money. Even I understand this.
The Raiders and Warriors left for a reason. Nobody is calling both those owners evil...
If you think businesses are viable in Oakland, just ask In N Out Burger or Denny's why they shuttered their businesses just down the street from the Coliseum...
I commend Fisher for leaving that crap-hole. Blame the politicians and citizens of Oakland, not the owner of the A's, Raiders or Warriors...
BILLIONAIRES DONT HAVE A RIGHT TO TAX PAYER FUNDED STADIUMS YOU BOOTLICKER
Why the hell should citizens have to pony up for a billionaire's venture capital project?
@@seasonaldepressioncomics434 I agree, but that's what Vegas is offering. If Vegas is dumb enough to do that, why not take it? Oakland sure isn't offering anything, but I do agree cities should not give taxpayer money to billionaires.
@@ClassicJukeboxBand Vegas doesn't have concrete plans either. They haven't passed any measures or secured the funding. They have concepts of a plan lol
"It's quite obvious to me that locating a professional sports franchise in Oakland is a recipe for bankruptcy."
No, it's not. Last I checked, the Haas family (who owned the Athletics for years) are pretty far from being bankrupt. Oakland was far from being a plush bed of roses even in the 1980s when that family ran things. Then you have Joseph Lacob (owner of the GS Warriors) who offered to buy the team from Fisher and would have kept the team in Oakland.
You, like most of the people who defend Fisher, have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not even an Oakland resident or even a CA resident. But I've been to Oakland and I've been to an A's game and I can easily say you're just talking out of your ass and plain ignorant, here. And comparing a Denny's or an In N Out Burger in a rough neighborhood to sports franchise that would have gotten some public funding on the Howard Terminal is just moronic.
The politicians of Oakland are almost assuredly inept. But that doesn't mean you have to side with a petty, mean-spirited bad faith billionaire owner who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth over the people of Oakland.
If the Tigers can stay viable in Detroit or the Orioles viable in Baltimore or the White Sox viable on the south side of Chicago, then there's no reason Oakland could not also stay viable for the Athletics. Hell, they drew nearly 2 million fans annually inside of a dump that the owner wouldn't even minimally invest in. And he wouldn't invest in the dump (which he allowed to decay further on his watch) after he sabotaged the place for the Raiders who were trying to get a new stadium built for BOTH franchises. Fisher has just as much to do with Raiders leaving Oakland as the most inept city council member residing in Oakland. It was only after covid when Fisher sold off everything (in terms of talent) and jacked up ticket prices where a MASSIVE drop off in attendance was seen. The fans got the message. And that was all by design on the part of ownership.
If what you were saying about crime and professional sports was true (and that was the only factor in play), the Yankees would have gone out of business or relocated during the 1970s on account of being located within the Bronx in an era where most of NYC looked like what you see in the film, Taxi Driver.
This whole "crime is the reason" is such a dumb, ignorant talking point. It certainly doesn't help make Oakland attractive. But it's hardly forcing Fisher's hand or anything. You can run a viable team in Oakland which has been done for decades before Fisher owned the team.
"You can't blame somebody for increasing profits for their business."
Wrong. You absolutely can blame 'somebody' for putting profits over people depending on context. I would be sympathetic if Fisher did not buy a sports team in a market that had decades of stored up history within a community and whose 'market' still showed viability like Oakland's does. Like if the BS about him going bankrupt by owning the A's was true (it's not), I'd maybe be a bit more sympathetic. But what he's doing... like you're saying here and DEFENDING...is wanting to "increase profits for business." In other words, he's a greedy billionaire who wants more for himself at the expense of an entire community. Forgive us for judging those values. How dare we!
Oakland itself is plenty viable, though. No one is going to go bankrupt owning a franchise in Oakland. Obviously, he's free as the owner to do what he wants because MLB and the other owners who could block this move caved (because they want the same freedom to exploit the communities where their teams are located), but ordinary people without billions like Fisher are also free to judge him harshly as they should, in my estimation.
It's not enough that billionaires have the freedom crap on ordinary people. But now we have people like yourself who want to carry water for these billionaires and tell the rest of us not to judge them for being outrageously greedy. Just risible.
LOL. John Fisher acting as if a new stadium is gonna fix all the problems. Well....until he changes his approach to managing this storied franchise, he will have his new stadium, empty and devoid of fans.
Remember the saying “rich people don’t like to spend their own money..they like to spend other people’s money”….this is this guy. He will probably go to hell..
I cant believe they made fun of smashmouth like that!!😳😳😧😧 they probably dont EVER need another hit ever again, unlike the a's it seems!!??😬😬😄😄
Hey Vegas, like what you see?
Put a picture of the wrong bush
does the state of the city of Oakland have anything to do with this? i feel like it does, the city is in utter decay. I don't feel safe going anywhere in Oakland.
Who knows?
But it's a lie that people in Oakland won't support a team. Besides, Oakland has always been "rough." That's nothing new.
Detroit is in "utter decay."
It's still a viable baseball market. Same with Baltimore and Milwaukee.
The Las Vegas A’s will flop because he pissed us off and Vegas doesn’t have enough long term residents to be a fan base
Let’s face some facts. Oakland isn’t a major league town. Raiders? Gone Golden State? Out of There! It’s never been an attractive venue but when they built Mt Davis to temporarily get the Raiders back the ruined the park for baseball
Going into 2021 11 post season 2000-2020
I'm not on the owner's side or anything, but that whole reverse boycott thing? 27,000 fans isn't really a capacity crowd. You figured if they really wanted to send a message it would have sold out. And honestly, you can't rebuild the coliseum. You need a new stadium to keep up with the standards of Major league baseball. And this guy is not going to sell. I'm surprised Major league baseball let him get away with having a team in such a dilapidated place and basically neglecting his team to the point where they're like a Semi-Pro ball team. That whole situation is a black eye to baseball.
That's a pretty good sized crowd considering it was an 'organic' effort coming from a fan base that supposedly 'won't support' the team. It's not like these fans just owned the airwaves and could hype the thing to death like a U2 concert or something.
John Fisher’s last name almost rhymes with the n word.
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#FJF
That’s Dubya not H.W. My guy
You are right! My bad. Good call out. Thank you for watching!
The fact that this video is pro-Oakland Mayor and City government is pathetic.
Its not his fault.... OAKLAND IS NOT PROFITABLE.... same reasons the Raiders left.....TRUTH HURTS
Did you actually watch the video?
@@forwardthinker4139 Fake news
That’s the thing Oakland would be profitable if he kept talent and actually spent money on players
@@zen_-dt6ysRaiders were profitable in Oakland. But it had to be football only. A's were in the way
The Athletics have been trying to leave the Coliseum for six decades, even before Fisher. Fisher came in and proposed legitimate plans for new stadiums. The team always insisted on a location near a BART station. Seating ranged from 35,000 to 50,000. One proposal landed on 35,000.
So what happened? After Fisher spent tens of millions on plans and surveyors and city/county paperwork, the city balked at the idea.
The city and county owns the coliseum and refused to repair. The mayor is under FBI investigation for fraud, misappropriation of funds, etc. The city is bankrupt. They are finally trying to clear out the homeless even though the homeless have no place to go.
Businesses already left Oakland. Businesses are even leaving San Francisco. The Bay Area is a bad place to invest in now. Five, ten years maybe it will change.
I remember leaving Oracle arena after Warriors games and barely hearing A’s fans next door.
If Fisher invested half a billion dollars in a new stadium now, the mayor would steal half of it. It is a goddamn shame. People of Oakland need those jobs.
Oakland is a dumpster fire for any business. I don’t blame him for taking the team and leaving. I do blame him for refusing to add stars to the team. With relocation it’s good to have leaders to galvanize the players and fans
Fisher is bad for sure, but hold on! The city of Oakland "government" sucks. If I am wrong, ask this Q: Will Oakland ever get another MLB team? No. Oakland is so bad that MLB is allowing the A's to go to a minor league park to get out of that $&it hole. I suspect Fisher refused to give that city anything after the fall-out years ago. Sure, he let the stadium rot. In a way, I think the mayor get what was deserved.
Moneyball is the biggest sports propaganda in history
You showed the wrong bush
sell the team🟩🟨🐘
No discussion of the lack of action on the part of the MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred. He’s gonna let Fisher move the team and then sell it. He oughta force Fisher to keep the team in Oakland.