Extremely Online Politics: Joshua Citarella

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  • Опубліковано 31 гру 2024

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  • @unreaall
    @unreaall Рік тому +77

    As a zoomer who is also in poli sci/sociology academia, the "extremely online" world is one of the most fascinating things to me. Thank you for your work!

  • @vladimirvparfenov3935
    @vladimirvparfenov3935 Рік тому +43

    this is some good ass essential work- in just one 5-minute anecdote youve fully humanized for me this superniche present-day phenomenon i had written off as obnoxious and dimensionless without much of a thought.

  • @samuelmilne6909
    @samuelmilne6909 11 місяців тому +14

    This helps me make so much sense of the world I'm seeing but hearing anyone older than me discuss.

  • @ryanellis424
    @ryanellis424 Рік тому +12

    I am new to your journalism Joshua, and its damn refreshing to see such hyper-up-to-date analysis that feels rather unaffiliated with one particular ideology but is also able to call out toxicity when you see it. Thanks You!

  • @Squalla1
    @Squalla1 Рік тому +8

    Fantastic analysis, Joshua. This really needs to reach more people.

  • @faijro9260
    @faijro9260 2 місяці тому +7

    It went by so fast at 15:30, but it is a really interesting idea. The transformation of the music industry has led people to seek to express their identity in another way. I find it particularly interesting that while taste in music seemed to be very important to the youth culture of yesteryear, in my own environment I don't see music as a pillar to community anymore. Most of my friends have radically different tastes in music, music is rarely, if ever, brought up in conversation.

  • @davidjohnston5154
    @davidjohnston5154 Рік тому +27

    Goated with the sauce

  • @falotershammer616
    @falotershammer616 Рік тому +90

    Finaly a leftist lecture with good audio ^^

    • @dylr7883
      @dylr7883 Рік тому +8

      technically proficient left flag

    • @biketickler65
      @biketickler65 Рік тому +10

      Yellow parenti has great audio

    • @jayjacobs1783
      @jayjacobs1783 Рік тому +10

      Not going with the time honoured tradition of borderline unintelligible lectures, what a shame :/

    • @tuckerbugeater
      @tuckerbugeater Рік тому

      que@@jayjacobs1783

    • @DDPhfx
      @DDPhfx 3 місяці тому +6

      It's because he spec'd into the Podcaster class.

  • @champagnebulge1
    @champagnebulge1 3 місяці тому +4

    This is excellent stuff

  • @spacetimevortex
    @spacetimevortex 3 місяці тому +5

    this is work that should be taken seriously. its uncomfortable, even as someone who's been a part of maybe slightly less extreme versions of these social media landscapes, but its the right kind of uncomfortable, the crucially informative kind

  • @world_musician
    @world_musician 3 місяці тому +2

    pretty interesting stuff! im especially curious about the "disintegration of the music industry" and hanging flags on your wall instead of band posters.

  • @KrisTheKrisMan
    @KrisTheKrisMan 3 місяці тому +4

    Fantastic stuff. The one thing I think wasn’t addressed enough is that a great many of these people do genuinely, comprehensively and strongly believe the things they are identifying with - while the ‘identity shopping’ aspect certainly seems to play a role across the board, there doesn’t appear to be any consistency in how much of a role it plays for each person. That said, you didn’t say anything to the contrary so this is really a nitpick about things that weren’t especially necessary to emphasise in the first place.

  • @mikebane2866
    @mikebane2866 6 місяців тому +4

    There was this interesting guy who created Social Distributism who came from a militant Marxist/radical left background for like two decades, was regional chairmen of one of the main 3 communist parties, then shifted to the 4th Political Theory when he had reverted to Catholicism, and now whenever I come across his stuff he’s talking about similar things as you. He seems like a post-Marxist Byzantine Catholic who blends progressive ideas, Marxist economics and philosophy, and moral theology together into this really interesting form of political thought.

    • @vg4414
      @vg4414 3 місяці тому +4

      Why not just mention Dugin by name? Lol this seems like Russia-bot ngl

    • @mikebane2866
      @mikebane2866 2 місяці тому +3

      @@vg4414 Because the guy I’m talking about isn’t a shill for Russia. Though he does seem to like the People’s Republic of China, however, he has repeatedly emphasized that all universalizing systems are doomed to fail because there’s no single totalistic system that can effectively and efficiently adapt, account for, and govern over all the local particularities that are expressed through all thick cultures that have a strong sense of identity and who have collectively experienced enough struggles to generate the substance that creates a meaningful foundation for those of that shared identity. That’s why anti-imperialist struggles have often been attracted to revolutionary communist/socialist ideology, the state represents both the oppressor and the tool to overthrow their oppressor, but the state is merely the contemporary expression of a structural matrixes to be wielded by whichever group formation can dominate its political economy. He says that America would be better off decentralizing into regional democratic federations and the national government only acts as an organizing mechanism for allocating, exchanging, and regulating inter-regional and interstate trade, emergency aid, collective security, and enforcing the new constitution which will secure various minority rights & protections against discriminatory practices that one would naturally imagine would try to happen if democratic power was expanded and concentrated into local, state, and regional governing bodies. Anyways, he barely resembles anything akin to Dugin, I think 4PT was just a phase, at least from what I have observed from him.

    • @vg4414
      @vg4414 2 місяці тому +1

      Ah my bad i saw 4pt and thought dugin. Who is this guy? im curious now

    • @biosavat9475
      @biosavat9475 12 днів тому

      ​@@mikebane2866this sounds very interesting could you please mention some of his materials or works for reading or viewing ? That would be helpful

  • @SudoDama
    @SudoDama 2 місяці тому +2

    "Extremely Printing Press Politics"

  • @tuckerbugeater
    @tuckerbugeater Рік тому +5

    Imagine when people actually have to live their memes.

  • @hazzardalsohazzard2624
    @hazzardalsohazzard2624 3 місяці тому +3

    I'm seeing echoes of the million gender phenomenon that you used to see on Tumblr in this.😊

    • @denisethemenace
      @denisethemenace 2 місяці тому

      Same, I couldn't help but think of MOGAI

  • @nicholasgpadilla
    @nicholasgpadilla Рік тому +2

    YES

  • @theeightbithero
    @theeightbithero 3 місяці тому +1

    I made my own flag as a kid. I think I could remember how to draw it.

    • @Fireball4511
      @Fireball4511 3 місяці тому +1

      Better yet, have ai approximate it, and get a print made of it.

  • @markdickey9642
    @markdickey9642 Рік тому +1

    YA!

  • @Gulfstreams
    @Gulfstreams Рік тому +4

    👁‍🗨🧿

  • @S.Dadudida
    @S.Dadudida 7 місяців тому

    🎉knalltüten ihr ...

  • @caseymckenzie4760
    @caseymckenzie4760 3 місяці тому +2

    Taylor lorenz? WTF?

  • @Blackoutwhiteout23
    @Blackoutwhiteout23 Рік тому +1

    cringee