@@saffroncitytv It REALLY does! I watch a TON of Pokétube, (have been for about 10 years!) and It's really rare I come across such a perfect idea, especially in this sort of category. Major props!
This really is fantastic. For more flavour perhaps the submarine that team aqua/magma stole could be repurposed to take treasure hunters off to the unique dive spot, sort of like boarding the ss aqua
So, personally, I dislike riding Pokemon. I don't like not using my Pokemon to surf on, or fly with, etc. Call me a gen-1-er, but I like the connection having your own team use an HM. It makes me feel like I'm exploring the unknown with my Pokemon, instead of just phoning it in. Therefore, I absolutely love the Skills replacing HMs idea you have. It removes the move slot problem, while keeping the exploration and travel vibe. My Combusken can breakdown those boulders blocking the northern path from Mauville without having to waste a slot on rock smash. Love it!
I'm really glad you like the Skill System idea! I actually really like ride Pokemon, but I think I'd like it better if you could ride your own Pokemon, y'know?
Liking HMs is pure nostalgia bias. Try playing the old games and have to run an HM slave again + half your party having completely useless moves just for the sake of walking around one tree then ask again if HMs were that good. They were discontinued for a good reason.
@@elin111 Well, I didn't say I like HMs. I said I dislike Riding Pokemon and like the connection that HMs provide to your team. I find Riding Pokemon immersion breaking, randomly summoning someone else's pokemon. It feels very hand-holdy. That's why I love the Skill idea. It eliminates the move slot issue, without breaking the immersion of exploration. In my opinion, using your own Pokemon to explore is makes the game an adventure as oppose to a story.
I like that Legends Arceus kept a list of learned moves seperate from your 4 battle moves and think that a Pokemon should be allowed to trigger the field effect of a move without it being in their battle moves. The skill system solves the same problem though and I like it!
I adored that idea of another sunken ship available to explore that's only accessible within the depths of Hoenn's underwater map. I'd like to imagine that it is traversible through coral reefs and underwater caves until the player finds a light to gain access to this forgotten mystery. Nobody in the game will be talking about it, until the player discovers a treasure in the ship that finally triggers a hidden dialogue. Maybe one NPC hints of this lost treasure but nobody knows where it is until the player finds it, and then perhaps it unlocks a side-quest too. It's gonna be quite dramatic!
Those are some really interesting ideas! I feel like there's so much potential in a sunken ship, especially for Hoenn! There could be ghost-type Pokemon, spooky music, lore and history, and I really like your idea of people not knowing about the ship until treasure is found! Hoenn seriously has endless potential.
I really like the skill system. Personally what I like about HMs is the fact you get to use your own Pokémon instead of being giving someone else's to rent or just having a single Pokémon doing everything.
I agree with both of those ideas! I prefer to use my own Pokemon to get through the region, and I think it could be totally cool to have the battle tents in some cities and towns and contest halls in others. 😊
I think a cool thing for Mt. Pyre would be a bit of a combo of the old and new. The lower levels could be newer looking, but as you ascend more signs of dilapidation become obvious. Basically, the graves began at the top and have been dug deeper over time.
That's a super interesting idea! I would've never thought of that, but that would really improve upon the visual storytelling for sure! I love that idea.
First of all, Sir Malo is an absolute King with the incredible spritework he did for the video, each one he did looks fantastic! Crazy how much of a difference it makes to the game world by making even just a few adjustments but he overhauled entire areas to make them seem so fresh and vibrant. The Dive Treasure Hunt is a great idea, since diving itself was a cool idea but simply finding the coloured Shards isn't a good enough reason to actually bother with the mechanic after you're done the Groudon/Kyogre story section that required diving. Your Glacia/Goldmary change makes so much sense. How on earth we DIDN'T have Grass-type representation in a tropical region focused around nature is baffling. Instead they give an E4 member a type found in one tiny section? Hoenn and Ice just doesn't fit at all. Small changes like having numerous boats around the sea sections would do wonders for negating the "too much water" complaint, since it isn't that there's TOO MUCH of it, it's that there isn't really anything there to do for most of it. I mean even reaching Pacifidlog feels incredibly underwhelming after taking on that stretch of ocean just to find very little to engage with. Still blows my mind that they removed the Day/Night cycle introduced with Gen 2, which also seriously hurt FireRed/LeafGreen. Weirdly it made Espeon and Umbreon completely UNOBTAINABLE in Gen 3 since you had no means of connecting to the Gen 2 titles, feeling almost like they're FORCING a Colosseum/XD purchase in order to add those to your Pokédex. (Personally as a kid, this didn't phase me, especially as Colosseum is a highlight of my entire childhood as I adored that game, but still, the scummy practices you notice as you get older really does a number on your perception of your favourite media) A Pokédex time of day project would make for a great video in all honesty, since it's something we didn't even have to consider without there being a day/night cycle. Like the mostly Grass-types such as Roselia/Lotad etc being common during the morning, Dark types being inherently nocturnal, or Volbeat/Illumise only appearing at night because they're easier to spot with them being fireflies and even obscure ones like Slakoth perhaps only appearing for maybe 4-6 hours of each day, to align with them sleeping most of the day however any areas with Vigoroth would be much more abundant due to their Vital Spirit preventing them from sleeping. It'd be a ton of ton of fun to delve into. Gym Leaders and the E4 outside of gyms makes the world feel much more alive, as opposed to NPCs just sort of perpetually existing in one location. It was always nice having interactions outside of the obligatory battles in some later Gens, like most of the Gym Leaders showing up to have your back against Team Plasma near the end of Black and White. There's only so much personality that can be conveyed through a couple lines of dialogue so this is an absolutely fantastic addition. Festivals and Seasons, as someone who adores the Harvest Moon series (or Story of Seasons as they're called now, since the current HM titles are NOT the actual games, but that's a whole tangent for another time haha), would do so much for enriching the game world, as even if you've found yourself getting rather bored, having a big limited time event around the corner would inject so much excitement to a playthrough. And Seasons especially, much like in Black and White could be implemented the same way there, where certain areas were blocked off/made available such as heavy rain flooding a section/even allowing you to surf to new areas or snow blocking certain paths etc to give an incentive to revisit entire Routes for the chance of new encounters or rare items. Once again Sabrina, just a fantastic video. You're getting even better with each upload and I genuinely look forward to each video. Plus you mentioned early on about having numerous hour long videos instead of splitting them up and I couldn't agree more, as the enormous 2/3/4 hour Retrospectives are some of my favourite types of content on UA-cam, especially since they're so easily digestible podcast-style when doing other things. I totally understand that the editing times for those can be absolutely brutal though so if it feels like too much, don't feel bad about having to split them up just to keep the channel's growth on track. Excited for the Orre/Gamecube titles and inevitable visit to Sinnoh! Plus Orre especially could do with a LOT of Region Repairing, as much as I adore those games haha. Also holy hell sorry for the absolutely mammoth-level wall of text, I didn't wanna just throw in a tiny comment for the sake of it and actually show I was genuinely taking in your points haha Can't wait to see what the future holds for you and the channel, you pretty much immediately catapulted yourself to being one of my favourite content creators with the first video of yours I ever watched 🤝
Well thank you so much for all of the very kind words and complements! I really appreciate you taking the time to write a well-thought-out comment with all of your points of interest! I'm so glad you enjoyed the treasure hunt idea, along with Goldmary, the Gym Leader & Elite 4 being out and about in the region, the beautiful maps that my friend, Sir Malo made, amongst all of the other things you mentioned. 😊 It means a lot that you care so much to share your thoughts and feedback on my ideas! I really worked hard on this video, and I'm so proud of how it turned out. Now, if only Hoenn could actually be remade with all of these ideas 😂 anyway, thank you so much for your support, Malevolent Minun!
I'll say this, Goldmary should have a Sceptile instead of a Ludacullo. 2 reasons for this. 1: You didn't want over lap in any of the elite for members, and I would also presume the champion as well sense Wallace has one on he's team too. Reason 2 and the more important one, all of the elite 4 members in ORAS can use Mega Evolution the first time through. Having Sceptile be her mega makes sense with it being the ONLY GRASS IN HOENN that can. Can cheat with Venasaur in both or abomasnow in ORAS, but I feel like Sceptile fits better. It also gives the player hoenn dex no.3 in case they didn't pick the treeko line.
Love the solutions you provided in this video! There's a ROM hack of Yellow and Crystal, called Yellow Legacy and Crystal Legacy respectively. These games fix a lot of the issues in those gens and I think you might enjoy them based on all the feedback you give to the originals. The dev is working on a Gen 3 version that should be out later this year and hope to see a lot of the updates you suggest in it!
I was so ready to comment that petalburg definitely needs, you know, petals on the trees and whatnot until I made it to that very last segment. Omg yes! Absolutely! That sounds lovely!
Although I have no problem with the "too much water" issue, I love the improvements you proposed regarding the maritime areas. All this would add a perfect plus to the summer feeling of the game!
I came across this series a little after this video came out. Its been a fun few days going through these videos! I love gen 3, both kanto and hoenn games so much. And your takes and repairs and rankings have all been great! I espeically love the idea of introducing festivals. It seems so fitting and not overly complex, like it could feel seemlessly added to these games and fit with the game direction
Pacifilog town should have some type of economy. Probably based around fishing. You could have fishing boats pulled up in docks at the town, with one of the captains you can talk to, who will give you random items he picked up in his fishing nets! Make it like the pickup ability, where these could be anything from Potions and Antidotes, to Rare Candy or Big Pearls!
Why thank you 😊 I had a lot of help from Sir Malo, but I did make a few of those maps myself. I actually really like creating stuff like that, I'm just not talented to pull it off on a large scale 😅. But I can definitely continue making videos!
For fishing I think it could be cool to have each rod fish at different sea levels. The old rod could only catch mons that you’d find near surface while the super rod could pull deep sea mons like Relicanth with the good rod being of corse in between.
That is a really interesting idea! I've never heard that idea before or even considered something like that! Thanks for sharing your input on the fishing rods, I'm definitely gonna remember that for later. I think that's a really interesting concept!
The whole skills idea reminds me of the original Pokemon Ranger game, where you temporarily catch Pokemon that have inherent skills that allow you to bypass obstacles. I always thought that would be the best way to go moving forward with the games.
New subscriber here. I love the level of though, attention to detail, and clear love you have poured into these videos. Stray thoughts from throughout: - Diversifying the water routes is key absolutely. I think you could take it a step further though. Have the routes around Shoal Cave be visibly colder. Maybe the sand tiles become frosty. Maybe the trees become temperate, rocks are icebergs, etc. - Overall the improvements to the water half are bang on. - Really like all of the improvements to the towns. Fits the lore and all make sense. Fallarbor's is particularly impressive to me in how innovative but obvious it feels, and the Sootopolis treasure hunt would be so fun. - I think I land on team swap Phoebe and Brawly. Phoebe might not have much thematic connection to Dewford Island but... Frankly, neither does Brawly. "Dresses for a tropical island" is about as much as "is a surfer" in my view. - Masquerain is... a nice idea but simply too weak for the champion. - Always advocate for more of gym leaders appearing outside of the gym!
Hey! Welcome to the channel! Happy to have ya! Also, thanks for sharing your feedback on my ideas. 😊 I think the routes around Shoal Cave being made to look a little frosty would be a really cool idea! I hadn't even considered that! Also, the Brawly and Phoebe swap does make sense, especially considering that Brawly doesn't exactly have a solid connection to Dewford either - you make a fair point. Also, fair point on Masquerain on the champion team as well. I think it probably would be too weak for the Gen 3 games, but I've seen Masquerain be quite formidable in Gen 6. Either way, I'm sure there was a better option out there, I just thought it fit Wallace aesthetically 😊. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and many of the other changes, and I appreciate all of your feedback!
I actually really like the idea of switching Phoebe and Brawly. Phoebe could lead with Shedinja, which could throw new trainers off if they don't have something super effective, but there's enough early game options available (even in the cave on Dewford) that you could come back ready. Since Shedinja relies on a weak gimmick it could be a fun early challenge to strategize around. Even more, the player can also obtain a Shedinja before going to Dewford. Her other two Pokemon would be Duskull and Shuppet as an allusion to her grandparents on Mt. Pyre
@@Mariokemon in gen 2 Morty was the third gym so ghost early on isn't too unprecedented. Plus you'd have access to poochyena, sableye, and shedinja. And a lot of early Pokemon can learn bite at the very least.
I loved the idea of reshuffling the elite 4 and gym leaders like this too, including honestly every suggestion. Phoebe fits better on an island with a spooky darkened cave than in the formal elite 4 chambers. Dare I even say, she should have a Shedinja. As a challenge to encourage trainers to find strategies outside of brute force and overlevelling. And even if we had 3 fighting type elite 4 members in a row...didn't stop them from 3 fire starters with secondary fighting type in a row, and at least Brawly has a niche of being not a martial artist, but more of a fitness gym bro, who is notably difficult and strategic in his place a a gym leader. And the entire concept of Goldmary is wonderful, she's the cottagecore icon who has been somehow absent in the series, in the region of farming fields, flowers, mangroves, and tree house towns. I literally swept her original team with a Breloom with sky uppercut just last night, only at the level of her highest. She has a glaring fighting weakness and imbalanced team in an already struggling type.
For Phoebe and Glacia, there's really no reason to limit them to exclusively using their type speciality, in gen 1 and 2 and Diamon and Pearl, E4 members regularly used pokemon outside their type speciality as long as they fit their theme . For Phoebe, just simply give her a Chimecho, Phoebe is stated to have grown up on Mt.Pyre ( the elderly couple that guard the orbs are her grandparents ) and Chimecho is exclusive to the summit of Mt.Pyre + Chimes and bells are usually used to ward off evil spirits in many myths across the world , thus Phoebes team could be : Sableye, Shedinja, Banette, Chimecho and Dusclops/Dusknoir thus completely giving her a team with no repeats . Glacia is a bit trickier in the ogs, simply give her a Wailord, plenty of species of Whales live in the arctic and North pole so her having one would fit her type thematically + a water type could throw players who expected to sweep her team with a fire type off guard, so in the remakes her team could be : Froslass, Castform, Wailord, Glalie and Walrein again making sure she has no repeats on her team . In the original games this is a bit trickier tho as Froslass doesn't exist yet, you could simply just give her a repeat Glalie, or maybe give her an Altaria ! Grucia in Scarlet Violet uses one as his ace and it sorta fits because Altarias cloud wings sorta resemble snow ( and Snow usually forms in very high altitudes on Mt peaks, and Altaria IS a flying type) and Altaria could also surprise people who expect to sweep her with a fighting type off guard or maybe give her a Gardevoir ( because she herself wear a fairly large dress ) or maybe give her a Gorebyss whose both elegant AND is a deep sea creature where the temperatures are usually super low, so her team could be : Glalie, Castform, Wailord, Altaria/gardevoir/Groebyss and Walrein
For the water routes add in some lore, perhaps around Kyogre seeing as it represents the ocean. NPCs likes Steven or Team Aqua would be ideal for this as well, learning how the peoples of Ancient Hoenn viewed Kyogre and maybe even using this for where Archie learns about the Red Orb from. Pokemon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea introduced an ancient culture called The People of the Water and Episode Delta introduces the Draconids, a culture that now survives through Zinnia, so a water culture that’s not been active for a long time fits in. Heck, add in a Groudon group to round things out and we’ve got an idea of Hoenn’s past.
That is a really good idea..I'm always down for more history and lore in these games. I think people would've really appreciated the older culture of Hoenn and the legends and tales. I wonder if we will get an expansion on that with like a Hoenn-based Legends Game. 🤔
Another idea for Roxanne At the beginning of the game you and her pick a fossil at Devon Co, and whichever you decide to pick she’ll use the other for her team + her ace Nosepass Eg If you picked Anorith, her team would just be Lileep + her ace Nosepass
🤯🤯🤯 Yeah this is perfect. The love put into this video is crazy. I'm getting sad knowing I can't play this version of Hoenn, but I can always come back and watch this haha
47:51 the SS Tidal visiting the eastern half sounds awesome, but there's geographical issues with each area: Sootopolis is dive/fly only, no docks Mossdeep has mangroves, implying that the surrounding sea is only a few feet deep, but maybe the eastern side of the island could work, although the space center is there Ever grande island has a waterfall blocking access Pacifidlog is on a reef, bringing in the SS Tidal would destroy the ecosystem unless parked a distance away, but the smaller fishing boats can pass through find
So excited to see this!! On the note of the long videos. I love them let's me consume them at my own pace. I know it took me like 3 days to finish the region review but it was nice to not wait whenever I wanted more lol Anyway keep up the good work!!
Thank you so much! I'm glad you're enjoying the long-form content. 😊 I prefer long-form content, myself, and though it takes longer to make, I think the finished products are always well worth it. 😊
Hey, just wanted to leave a comment that I stumbled upon your videos on the Hoenn Region review and absolutely LOVED it (quickly consumed the Kanto and Johto ones as well) and was eagerly waiting for the follow up videos ever since! I know how much such long and indepth video reviews take on your end and I just wanna take this oppourtunity to thank you for all your effort and hard work! Kudos!!
1:30:00 - IDK about RS / ORAS, but you can definitely rematch gym leaders in Emerald. Otherwise, there's so many fantastic ideas in this video. Binged the whole set of Hoenn vids and im a big fan, gonna dig into your older content :D
When it comes to the water type encounters, I'd make Magikarp encounter-able in the areas near civilisation while Carvanha replaces it out in the open water. The idea being Magikarp are scared off by the rougue fishy's. I agree with the Birds being able to fly out in the oceans, the Huntail & Gorebyss changes & the changes to the whale duo. For Pacifidlog, I'd make it a more unique Pokemon encoutnerable area, giving them Chinchou, Corsola, Staryu, Lombre, & Luvdisc, just to add to its presige as a location to visit. The route behind Mossdeep, I'd make a more chilly area & expand the shoal cave. Making Spheal, Sealeo & Snorunt more easily avaliable. Finally, Whiscash would be visible encounters when diving, only a couple a day & changing locations but they'd be like the Lapras in Union cave from Johto.
Great video! I really like your ideas. There actually were gym leader rematches in Emerald though and they were a lot of fun! The final rematches would have Pokemon that weren't even available in RSE sometimes and could consist of any of the 386 Pokemon at the time. Like Brawly has a Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan for example. It's another thing I really wish they kept in the remakes. (No I'm not still mad about the Battle Frontier a decade later, nope not at all.)
This ideas are really good, I hope they'll exist in future generations.. It'll bring life and thought to the game/world I'd wanna play a game that feature things like these, as a kid & adult! ^^
Another idea in water routes could be taking the Xmoneyitem Maniacs from Black and White and puting them on boats, put a random one out per day from a finite pool, only going back to full random grabs after every one has been pulled once. I cannot imagine it was outside of hardware limitations at the time, mirage island is more software intensive than even part of this idea.
Love the festival idea. Though, instead of a bog standard summer beach festival, I think a Tanabata cognate would really hit different. Gussy up Slateport's market to be filled with festival stalls and the like. One stall should sell wish slips, that you can take to some sort of bamboo-y area (I forget if Hoenn naturally has one, otherwise it can be added in somewhere) where you can place a wish upon a bamboo tree. You could wish for financial luck (Trainers drop more money, the game rolls twice at the Lilycove Lotto corner each day and gives you the best result, i.e. statistically increasing your odds of winning), style luck (some sort of benefit when making Pokéblocks and increasing your abilities in contests), and friendship luck (increases the rate at which your Pokémon become friends with you, AND doubles shiny odds - as Gen 3 is the only set of games with no way to improve shiny odds outside of RNG Manipulation). I say this because Jirachi calls this region home, and is entirely themed around Tanabata. Maaaaybe bringing your Channel or Bonus Disc Jirachi to the festival could result in some sort of reward, event, or flavor text too? 😜
The removal of the Safari Zone in ORAS I think it has to do with political correctness in the same fashion as the removal of the casinos, I remember that in those years there was a lot of rising consciousness about the hunt of animals in Africa and all the shady business around it, here in Spain it got to the point that our at the time King got caught hunting elephants ilegally and he literally abdicated in 2014 (the same year ORAS aired), that is my theory at least.
If Fallarbor is made a place where berries grow quickly then it might also make sense to move the berry master there too and find something else for that patch of land by Mt Pyre, maybe like a random ranch or something?
I like HM. I dislike the fact that forget them is too hard, but i like the feeling of "beating the obstacles with my Pokémon". Add a move removal in every pokecenter or just make them forgettable, and I would be happy
This is pretty good overview on what you'd like to see changed. Plus there are many clever ideas like your additions to the water routes and cities/towns with little to no content. The underwater treasure hunt and adding various boats in the water routes definitely would make things more lively. 1:21:07 Huh, so now you're finally deciding to come up with your own trainer OC (a grass type specialist fits Hoenn very well) for one of these region repair videos. Although I did point out the idea on your Johto repair video considering there's still the unknowing plothole left unfilled on who will take over Misty's gym when she replaces Bruno as an Indigo E4 member for your version of the Johto events. I'd still keep Glacia for my version as maybe I'd probably just want to expand the Hoenn dex a bit to make it work, as well as keep Phoebe as an E4 member, but I can see why you wanted to replace Glacia. XD For Wattson, I'd probably replace the repeat Elektrike and the Voltorb with Plusle and Minun, two other Hoenn electric types. *My Take on Third Gym: Wattson* Manectric Level: 24 Ability: Static Held Item: Sitrus Berry - Thunder Wave - Howl - Quick Attack - Shock Wave Magneton Level: 22 Ability: Magnet Pull - Shock Wave - Supersonic (To be annoying XD) - SonicBoom - Thunder Wave (Also to be more annoying XD) Minun Level: 20 Ability: Minus - Quick Attack - Shock Wave - Light Screen (To be more tactiful against those that don't have a physical ground move and want to brute with neutral special attacks) - Encore Plusle Level: 20 Ability: Plus Quick Attack Shock Wave Encore Fake Tears As for Flannery...I'd probably keep her Emerald Team (even if Camerupt is below it's evo level, then again so is Maxie's) but I'd probs replace the repeat Numel with either Vulpix/Ninetales or Combusken XD *My Take on Fourth Gym: Flannery* Torkoal Level: 29 Ability: White Smoke Held Item: White Herb (Still keeping the brutal White Herb Overheat strat XD) - Attract - Sunny Day - Body Slam - Overheat Combusken Level: 27 Ability: Blaze - Double Kick - Aerial Ace - Overheat - Bulk Up (Yeah, watch out and try not to let this fried chicken set up too many of these XD) Magcargo Level: 25 Ability: Flame Body - Yawn - Overheat - Rock Slide - Light Screen Camerupt Level: 25 Ability: Oblivious - Overheat - Magnitude - Sunny Day - Take Down 1:31:07 Also, I wonder if Flannery would...react strongly and get pi___ed if you were to play as the male character if you casually walk in her...y'know...and you immediately black out (read: You literally get kicked out and knocked out cold) and find yourself back inside the pokecenter. XD Another change I'd probably make is actually give Castform a Rock Type SANDSTORM form. Not to mention make *Vol*beat and Illumise dual Bug/Electric (Hilariously, I first mistaken Volbeat as a Bug/Electric type and wanted it on my team when I first played Ruby...until I took a closer look at the information XD) instead of pure Bug. As I brought up in another comment in your Hoenn Region Review vid, I'd also probably make Pyramid King Brandon from the Battle Frontier a bit more integral in the Regi sidequest...as he is an explorer and this does foreshadow him eventually using the Regis himself. (In the Gold Symbol Battle in my version) I'd also actually Rock Tomb 60 base power and 95% accurate like in Gen 6 onwards. 80% accuracy and 50 base power is REALLY not worth the speed drop, it's worse than Rock Throw (at least it's 90% accurate instead of a painful 80%) for crying out loud. I can see why Scott's Thoughts absolutely HATES this move in his Emerald solo runs. (*If it's not 100% accurate, you're basically using Dynamic Punch.* A 50% accurate move) This is painfully underwhelming introduction for Gen 3's new rock type move. (Although tbf, it could've been as bad as Gen 2, which has a introduced a crap ton of awful moves and learnsets for the Pokemon) XD Oh and if this was Gen 3, just like my comment on your Johto repair vid, I'd make all Dark Types physical and all Ghost Type damaging moves special...because seriously, there are even MORE new Dark Type Pokemon in Hoenn that are better physical attackers than special attackers. The only issue is that this would probably make Shedinja worse (Banette and Dusclops respective attacking stats aren't THAT far off from one another) since it's also better physical than special...ah well, can't all be winners. At least physical/special split exists in Gen 6. XD
I really appreciate you taking the time to leave me such a well-thought-out comment. 😊 I personally love your teams for Wattson and Flannery as well. I honestly didn't consider that it may be a little inappropriate for male players to attempt to speak with Flannery while she's in the hot springs 😅 whoops! I also really like all of your other ideas as well, like to Castform and Rock Tomb. As far as Misty is concerned, I'd have to think about it a bit, but I'd probably need to create another Original Character to replace her at her gym. Anyway, thank you for sharing your thoughts and opinions! I appreciate you taking the time to express them. 😊
@@saffroncitytv You're right! And good luck with your potential second Pokemon Trainer OC! Huh, I do wonder if it's possible you might end up making a video covering your Pokemon Trainer OCs if you were to end up coming up with enough of them....even if they'd mostly be tied to your Pokemon Region Repairs videos, which might as well be your personal Pokemon AUs to an extent lol. XD
Right off the bat, I think you've missed the point of Oldale Town. You are correct that there's nothing to do there, BUT THAT'S THE POINT! You start in a place with "Little" in its name, to show how we all start from humble beginnings. No matter how lucky you were with where/when you were born, we all start knowing nothing, and that's represented in the simplicity of Littleroot. Then when you go to Oldale, you see what happens at the end of a life-well-lived; people want to find a nice, quiet place in the woods. Peaceful, simple living, with little to no reason for outsiders to pass through. Hoenn as a whole is about the balance of nature. Littleroot is the start of a life The whole of the region is the middle of life And Oldale is the end And it's right next to the start Showing a cycle of simple beginnings, moving into a harmonious existence with nature, and finally ending back with simplicity again
More tidal mechanics on coastal and water routes! You can have exposed sandbars at low tide and submerged sandbars at high tide. At each new low tide, you could use the itemfinder like a metal detector in the real world and find random items that washed up on shore!
The Hoenn region has always fascinated me ... however it doesn't mean that it wasn't without its imperfections (the same thing as 'flaws' like you mentioned SC 📺 ) however the Hoenn region really defined my affinity for Pokémon 👍 and Unova (based off Manhattan or NYC) was quite nostalgic for me ^_^ 👍 and while im not quite the Sinnoh region embracer; pkmn D/P/Plt have plenty of ever lasting memories for me :)
@@saffroncitytv hey SCTV (or Sabrina I suppose), just wanted to kindly tell you how much you've meant to me as I've been having an extremely difficult time IRL, but I don't want you to worry as I've been doing all that I can to ensure my mental well-being is where it needs to be...but hopefully better days are ahead, and you always bring me comfort and joy even in my darkest of times (like lately). And hopefully things start to turn a corner but I'm not entirely optimistic that will be the case as I've endured a lot of trauma, heartbreak, heartache, and misery.... although like I said; hopefully things will be in the way I want them to be.
It would be hard to implement a lore reason behind it but a potential emerald champion fight for both Wallace and Steven fans could be to somehow turn it into a double battle where both of them somehow have the champion role at the same time and you have to battle a random 3 Pokemon from both Steven and Wallace. Would be interesting because you couldn't really build a team around just one of there weaknesses
Glacia could have been renamed to Gracia! (GRAss instead of GLAcier) Or even to Primrose, a call-out to her Japanese name Purim. Love what you did with the region fixes! It’s been so calming and fun to watch your videos on Hoenn.
Holy heck I missed this getting uploaded! Also yay got my comment featured! Also also... I've since learned that is very much not common knowledge about the bikes, which makes me feel a lot better about only learning it in my mid 20s... And hopefully it helps others enjoy Hoenn more :D
Well if it makes you feel better, I didn't know about the bikes until your comment! So, thank you for always sharing your input, and I hope you enjoyed the video 😊
I really like the suggested changes to the routes of Hoenn. Mostly, because it gives Team Magma *more* argumentive merit. If Hoenn had say, unique tiny islands on its water routes where only specific pokemon could be found, the clear implication is that these species of pokemon are *stuck* here. It would explain why Zigzagoon has populated so much of Hoenn's mainland, by learning how to be a great swimmer. Imagine if you could *only* catch Meoth on some tiny island that's 98% water. The cat would be TRAPPED on that island, and Maxie's rhetoric about creating more land for humans and pokemon makes more sense. You could have things like Houndours, Pinecos, Sentrits, and more on these little islands, where they're basically trapped. This hints at Hoenn's history of ecological disturbance, where the land mass was bigger and the great conflict between kyogre and groudon effectively forced pokemon to live in these tightly isolated areas. It also hints at Mirage Island(s) being solely populated by a single type of pokemon, also, one of the Mirage Island(s) needs to be populated solely by Clefairy, hinting at Hoenn's attachment to the stars, namely, the Moon and its influence on tidal forces. Lilycove literally sports a Cape Canaveral clone. With a weather center, a space center, and an astral telescope Hoenn isn't just invested in what their home is, but *WHY* their home is. Major shifts in the moon, or radical shifts in the weather have HISTORY in Hoenn and this helps support the concerns of the people there. Hoenn is a region *steeped* in the ecology of itself. Weather is *so* important to then, in large part due to their precarious position. Pacifilog is literally one bad storm away from not existing. The sunken ship you mention could function like an "early" version of the Old Chateu from Diamond and Pearl. A "horror" experience where the player encounters a ship that run-aground. Maybe, in part, due to the Mirage Isles. It didn't notice the island until it was too late. You could tie this into Rayquaza's lore as well, by having the crew *saved* by the dragon, who swept them off to Pacifilog where these NPCs inhabit a house, and tell the player about the pokemon that saved them, and, should the player have Ray, they reward them with a dragon scale or something. The random boat travellers on the water routes is also good, I'd go a step further, and say any Boatsman you beat in a pokemon battle is added into your pokenav's number list, and upon calling them, the player can have them pick them up for a ride back to a specific coastal spot. This effectively acts as an "escape rope" for water routes, and an intermediary between the SS Title, and Fly. It *also* gives some use to *ADULTS* in a pokemon game, who tend to be utterly useless to the child protaganist. Sure, you're old enough to capture God, but, you don't have a license, so sometimes you need to call somebody who does. I disagree to adding the Johto water pokemon to mirage islands, I think those ought to be added to the list of encounters on water normally. Mantine via diving, quillfish via good & super rod, remoraid via good rod on the area of the rapid current. Good call on the gym leaders. Giving Roxanne the pre-evolved fossils is a masterstroke because not *only* does it fit with her gym, but, it's Silphco who RECONSTITUTES the fossils to begin with. She LIVES in that town, her whole thing is being like, a student teacher about fossils, it makes the worldbuilding better by giving her those two. Ditch the geodude, you had to face enough of those from her gym trainers. This ALSO gives her a counter to Mudkip and Treeco, which makes her a more formiddle challenge for all players regardless of the starter they chose, rather than giving people who picked grass or water an easy sweep. As for the Elite Four? Look... I love Glacia's design. But she's literally here just to wall you out before the monster that is Drake. She has a TON of bulky pokemon with mean attacks, who exists to drain your resources before you have to tangle with the Dragon guy, and then Stephen "Balls of Steel" Stone. I whole heartedly think that Gamefreak intended players to need to use "Struggle" at SOME point during their Champion Challenge, because EVERYONE but Sydney has got some damage sponges. That's why I say we swap Glacia with Wallace as an Elite 4 member, and, we swap Wallace with Drake in the Elite 4 line. You meet all the new characters for challenges 1-3 then with the 4th member you're reintroduced to Wallace after him, Juan, and Stephen assist the player with the weather conflict. Rather than selling Juan as a water gym, we sell him as an Ice Gym who just so happens to include a lot of Water pokemon, because that worked *just* fine for Lorelai in gen 1, give Juan a Walrein, swap his Luvdisc for a Huntail, and his Crawdaunt for a Glailie. This way, we get to keep Walace AND Stephen in the final bout. Wallace's champion team is no joke, and doesnt need changes, and I don't think giving him a Gardevoir is a good call, because Wally's ace is a Gardevoir prior to Gallade's introduction. Also, you say there's no way to rematch Gym leaders, but, there is. Like any trainer in your pokenav in Emerald, the Gym Leaders can call you and offer a rematch. It's rare, but, it happens. Their pokemon are leveled up a bit, and you don't get anything special for it, but you can, eventually, rematch them. It just takes time, as they have low call priority in the pokenav and basically only call I think in the post-game? It's been awhile since I've played Emerald, regardless, your system works better. It adds interactivity to the world, and gives these Elite Trainers lives outside of standing in their designated challenge spot. However, I do think this should then be accompanied by a way to advance time without needing to run home and set your clock. Activities like sleeping, using the hotsprings, fishing, planting and/or watering berries, making pokeblocks should all have a "time value" that advances the in-game clock in large chunks upon completion. For instance, watering a berry for one A press jumps the in-game clock by 5 minutes, naking a pokeblock takes 10min, a dip in the springs jumps ahead by 30 minutes, fishing by and hour, using a pokemon center is a 20min affair per pokemon so a full team will throw you 2hrs ahead, and sleeping nets you an 8 hour jump ahead. This can also tie into the sea locomotion discussed earlier, where boats have different routes and different speeds for those routes, so maybe the Title can take you from Slateport to Lilycove, but that's a 5hr journey by cruise, you may be better off talking to Ol' Boatman Andy in Pacifilog who can ONLY take you to lilicove, but, he can reach there in a faster time in his schooner taking only 3hrs to get there. This ALSO adds a dynamic to fly, by allowing the player to radically cut down on travel time. Likewise, finding one of these elite trainers out of their element should give the player the option to join them in their activity, which will then fade the screen like Leaf Green and Fire Red's white out text, and say something like "You spend your time with them, then, head to the pokemon center to rest" and this jumps the in-game clock to an hour into their "shift", putting you at the Pokemon center closest to them (in the case of the Elite 4 it doesnt do this, because you can challenge them whenever) so that way a player REALLY looking for a rematch is just 2 button prompts away from their rematch, rather than having to find an optimal way to accelerate time to their desired hour.
Hey Sabrina! I can finally discover all your wonderful ideas! Having helped you a bit on this one, I thought I'd have a good overview, but damn you have so many amazing ideas! If only I had had more time to help you on those as well ; like for Johto, I almost want to start a fangame with everything you detailed on your video to make for the perfect Hoenn game! I especially love your take on Skills: it's a great way to keep the natural obstacles, while having YOUR Pokémon being helpful. To me it's the perfect way to improve the HM system. Obviously, all your propositions about encounters would make the game much more diverse, and I'd lie if I said I wouldn't like a video about a totally revamped Dex...! Same goes for lore and special trainers. Having Norman teaching you battle technics is so clever, and having Glacia replaced by a Grass Champion totally makes sense. And don't get me started on day/night, seasons and festivals... You already know how hyped I was when you talked to me about that!! I'm really looking forward to hearing all your ideas again and hope I'll have a chance to work with you again, I haven't had so much fun creating stuff for a while!
Hey! Why thank you for all the compliments on my ideas! I think you and I collaborating together on the seasons and your beautifully crafted maps really took this video to the next level! I loved the way that this one turned out, and I think you knocked those maps out of the park! Thank you again for all of your help, and I can't wait to collaborate with you again on the next one! 😊
I'm down to seeing those 2 videos you asked about (fixing Hoenn's PokeDex & which Pokémon would be at what time of day). Phoebe's team could see: Sableye, Banette, Dusclops (Dusknoir in Gen 6), Gengar & Misdreavus (Mismagius in Gen 6) (we can say she went on vacation to Johto/was native to Johto like the player character & caught a Gastly & Misdreavus while on vacation there/living in Johto). The changes made in this video, I hope TheSmithPlays & his team implements them in Emerald Legacy.
Soaring the much cooler way to use fly that wouldn’t make a comeback until scarlet and violet’s indigo disk dlc. I found my first shiny pokemon using that mechanic it was a shiny murkrow (I started with actual gen 3, I am not very lucky).
I agree about soaring. I absolutely love that mechanic. And I'm sorry you haven't found a shiny until recently, but I'm glad you actually found one! And what a cool Pokemon to have a shiny!
After you're done with the region reviews and repairs of all regions, you could start a new series about fixing game mechanics like the Pokedex of certain games, etc Anyways great video and hope you've started your journey in Sinnoh ;)
Another great video! I definitely agree that Oldale and all the other towns needed those fixes, love the Swarm idea in Oldale and Norman actually acting like a father. And yeah Pacifidlog DEFINITELY needs something, there have been many playthroughs were I accidentally skipped over that town completely. One of the things I would've done was add in a contest hall there, I mean the anime had a contest hall there, why not have one in the games too? It always bothered me that May needed 5 ribbons in the anime and you only need 4 ribbons in the game, that would've been a simple enough change and give you another reason to return to Pacifidlog. YES I strongly agree to plant some berries in Fallarbor! That always bothered me that you couldn't. And yeah! The treasure hunting idea is pretty fun! Why didn't they implement something like that with all the dive spots in Hoenn? And yeah when you're on those water routes, you can literally be in the middle of an entire blue screen with NOTHING on it, I like the sunken ship and other ships idea. Maybe one of those ships is in a different route each day and has some small incentive to find it. Huh sometimes I forget how much they changed in ORAS, I mean Mauville City is hard to forget but New Mauville and Mt Pyre I forgot they "cleaned" it up a bit and took away a lot of that charm from Gen 3. I find it weird how they update certain things and make them better but remove other features to make them worse...like removing the Battle Frontier, still salty about that one. I love the Skills idea, because I hated the ride Pokemon in Sun/Moon because like you said, it's not MY Pokemon. It just feels weird to use someone else's Pokemon to traverse the world. So I like the Skills idea so you are still using YOUR Pokemon. I also wholeheartedly agree with the water encounters! Every tile is a potential for encounter, and Hoenn has SO MANY water types. WHY would you limit it to the WIngull and Tentacool lines? Especially since you can find a Wingull super early in the game too, and encounter Tentacool pretty early too. This would be a great way to show off some of the other NEW Hoenn Pokemon instead of only seeing Pokemon we've seen hundreds of times already from earlier in the region. I agree with you on the gym leader stuff. The Emerald version teams are WAY better than the RS teams and I know that ORAS is an enhanced remake of RS...but when a version of 2005 is better than a 2014 version of a game...that's a problem. Also yeah I know Phoebe having a repeat is bad and it's a fun idea to imagine her and Brawly swap, I agree. Keep Brawly as the gym leader, and Phoebe as an E4. Ooh but that would be a fun video for you. What if all the Gym Leaders were Elite 4 members, or what if the Elite 4 members were like the first gym leader, what their teams would be. MandJTV did a thing about that (what if every gym leader was the first gym leader and what if every gym leader was the last gym leader). It was an interesting series of videos that I can see you doing a take on too. I love the festival idea! That sounds so fun! I really wish they would bring back seasons instead of JUST having that in BW/BW2, that was such a neat mechanic I'd like to see used more often. Once again, great video. Excited for the next one!
Really like the ideas with most of the video, the diving contest fits fantastically as does the expansion of many of the towns. Hm's are always a tricky subject and everyone has their own preferences as to how they are handled at this point, so ill leave that alone. As for the teams, definitely agree on everything right up until the E4. Juan to me needs to keep Ludicolo, it feels like one of his signature pokemon. Gardevoir does suit him nicely and i could see a Ninetales too. Phoebe I do agree could very much make use of a Shedninja, its a cool pokemon for an elite 4 member to get and as far as I remember isnt used by any other trainer in the region. You could probably keep her second Dusclops, maybe swap out the confuse ray and have one be more offensive and the other more debilitating. Glacia however, while I personally do like the image of her with two Glalie, her two Sealeo and Walrein is just too much. You could easily cut the Sealeo, Hail form Castform is a fun idea, especially if the player tried to counter the hail with something like sunny day. And for the other Sealeo spot I don't see why we couldn't just throw in a previous gen pokemon, both Drake and Juan use on their teams. While yes as things stand there really are no other options in the Hoenn dex, Its simply a strange choice when designing the game that way in the first place, I see little reason why they couldn't have chosen one of the icetype Kanto or Johto pokemon to add to the dex to round her team out rather than say Doduo or Rhyhorn lines or something like Golduck for a Lapras in the safari zone.
Lots of great ideas in this video; kudos! Tbh, I don't think having repeat Pokémon is *that* huge of an issue, so I really disagree with changing Glacia this drastically, although I do of course agree that it's really weird that Hoenn, the "tropical Japan" Region, had an Ice Type specialist but not a Grass one. Personally, I think I'd prefer it if, instead of retconning trainers to this degree, you just added a few Pokémon lines to the Dexes to refurbish Types and the roster as a whole as part of the repairing process.
Ride Pokémon did appear in X and Y, albeit for specific areas and not yet as replacements for HMs, so they could have been implemented in some fashion in ORAS.
Since you seem particularly passionate for Hoenn, I recommend you check out the UA-camr Bisa, who's trying to revamp the old Hoenn games to be more extensive and lived-in, and he's doing an amazing job!!
Truly great vid & overall attitude. Although it kinda spoils my hoenn love and admiration a little bit, you know comparing what is with what it could be. Hope that game freak remakes these (and all) games & appoints you as a content-design consultant:D
Well I'm glad you enjoyed the video 😊 don't let it spoil your love for the Hoenn games, they're still fantastic games and scored really well on the review. There's still a lot to love about them 😊. Also, I think it would be cool to get another remake of these games, though, I think it'll take quite a while. 😅
@@saffroncitytv well, they definitely are, especially given their release time, so my love wont be spoiled dw 🤣 love isn't entirely determined by how great is something anyway, it's also about the bond you have with it and my bond with these games can't be spoiled by anything. And yeah we won't probably get remakes for a long time to come, but please send a cv (or at least this vid) to gamefreak😁
Hoenn NEEDED Mankey and Aipom. It's a jungle. Give me monke. Maybe Arcanine too :) Honestly Hoenn could have done with a savanna, for those typically safari zone Pokemon
In ORAS the gymleaders actually can be found around the region after you beat the game, Flannery is in scorched slab and Roxanne is in the fossil maniac's house bribing him with a badge lol you can't rematch them unfortunately but it's nice to see gymleaders outside of the gym
I agree a grass type specialists would fit Hoenn a lot but I would have made it the Gym Leader of Fortree City, then the Elite for member instead of Glacia could have been a flying type specialists
The problem I now remember with your suggestion for ORAS is that in Slateport the PC gets scouted by the new NPC (Forget her name of the top of my head). Maybe a different suggestion is that in ORAS, the locations for normal and hyper rank contests are swapped. This way, you still have to go to Verdenturf to get a new Pokémon to Master Rank in contests, and we can keep the scout location where it is. And I don’t think moving it to Verdenturf works right either, because of Slateport just being a busier place due to being a port town.
13:17 I always felt that the trendy phrase isn’t actually trendy, but people in Dewford believe you because word travels slowly there and you’re their only contact on the outside who claims to know what’s the “latest thing” is.
I think contests should've been an alternative to badges, only not required to beat the game. it would mirror the anime in a way, not directly, but it would give you two goals. You could have a team for contests like you would regularly, only rules of contests are different. You have the appeals round, but also a battle round, but instead of choosing moves based on type effectiveness, you choose a move based on what gives you most appeal that turn, it then becomes a game of who can gain the most appeal of the audience by the time they KO another. It would incentivize players to use Pokemon otherwise inept in battle like Delcatty or Luvdisc, two Pokemon made for contest. It could even justify your rival's weak team, perhaps they start out Pokemon training only to end with a goal of contests and research. Your contest team could have their own ways to level up Mons or deposit them while you still with main team and you collect ribbons the same you do badges. The reward for collecting all could be up to imagination, but that's my own spin on them.
That is such an interesting idea! 😊 See, I would've never thought of that, but that really would help to integrate the contests into the region a little better! Thanks for sharing your input, I think that's such a cool idea.
I'm pretty sure the Safari zone game is gone from both ORAS and later games is that people just don't like it. It's not really a popular mechanic and GameFreak ended up trying 4 different ways to make it work before giving up. It is a bummer that the game aspect was cut from ORAS though.
Had to smile seeing my comment there :3 and then blush when I saw two typos I missed >.< also, gotta change that handle, never noticed it is hard to read/pronounce. Gotta look where to change it to something more readable. Anyway, thanks for the mention, was hoping I would make it into the video :3 and the video turned out very nicely. Didn't think of the mangroves before, but they really do work well to add more walkable areas to the water routes, and they still feel like water routes. Very nice idea there (and on stuff like the treasure hunt and stuff) Also, a video on "fixing the pokedex" would also be interesting. I actually liked the pokedex back when it came out. I know some people didn't like that you couldn't catch all gen 1 and 2 pokemon, but I found it added to the flavour of a new region with a different fauna. Plus, what most people don't even know is that originally, Gamefreak had meant to do what they only ended up doing for real in gen 5, and make the Hoenn Pokedex consist entirely of new pokemon. But they had to scrap the idea and fill the dex out with older pokemon. So, even though I don't mind the dex as it is, considering it became that way not because it was intended that way from the start, but because Gamefreak had to pick older pokemon they thought would fill certain gaps, I guess it would be very interesting to see where they might've missed a chance there...or made a mistake, in hindsight. So, yeah, I'd vote for a video like that :3
Hey! I'm glad you got to see your comment in the video 😊 (it's ok - I, myself, make typos all the time) but yeah! I think that revamping the Hoenn Pokedex could be a really fun project. Also creating a system for Pokemon encounters if Hoenn had a day/night cycle. Who knows? If enough people ask for them, maybe I'll do both videos! 😊
I am sure I will be going back to this as I finish the video but it will be a while and I want to make sure I don’t forget to mention these. Personally, for the underwater routes while I like the thoughts you had I also would love to see some underwater ruins as well. Possibly playing more on the Regi’s lore besides just the caves or maybe some special areas where you can surface and get more pokemon. As for HM and travel, if you are already incorporating boats why not just have those instead of the surf skill/hm? Of course that would get rid of the diving unless we get access to a submarine after Magma/Aqua steal theirs or a diving suit. Plus I am pretty sure other rpg games I played back then had similar items needed to traverse those areas. Edit 1: Never mind I got my answers just a few seconds after where I paused. By the way I would also love a Pokemon game that was like Story of Seasons/Harvest Moon
Underwater ruins is such an awesome idea! Damn! I wish I would've thought of that one - especially if it's going to give more lore to the Regi Trio. Also, if they ever made a Pokemon Story of Seasons/Harvest Moon type of game, I would literally play nothing else 🤣
@@saffroncitytv it would also have connections to the Groudon/Kyogre as they could be why the city sunk. Anyways I know you probably are working on Sinnoh, which I personally think is overrated but that’s a personal thing. What I wanted to say is, one of the things that I don’t like about Sinnoh is that they took the dive mechanic away and how they changed the secret bases so that all bases were in the underground with no variety. As such I hope you bring those up in the Sinnoh videos
Thank you! I'm glad you liked my ideas! Also, I'm now really considering making a video going over the Pokemon encounters for Hoenn if it had a day/night cycle. A few other people have been interested in that idea as well 😊
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The underwater treasure hunting idea was GENIUS! I absolutely adore the "if you only bring back trash" reward!!
Why thank you! 😊 I thought the idea fit Hoenn so perfectly!
@@saffroncitytv It REALLY does! I watch a TON of Pokétube, (have been for about 10 years!) and It's really rare I come across such a perfect idea, especially in this sort of category. Major props!
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 thank you Sabrina for putting this out so quick!! Can’t wait to grab a snack for this one 🍿
This really is fantastic.
For more flavour perhaps the submarine that team aqua/magma stole could be repurposed to take treasure hunters off to the unique dive spot, sort of like boarding the ss aqua
So, personally, I dislike riding Pokemon. I don't like not using my Pokemon to surf on, or fly with, etc. Call me a gen-1-er, but I like the connection having your own team use an HM. It makes me feel like I'm exploring the unknown with my Pokemon, instead of just phoning it in.
Therefore, I absolutely love the Skills replacing HMs idea you have. It removes the move slot problem, while keeping the exploration and travel vibe. My Combusken can breakdown those boulders blocking the northern path from Mauville without having to waste a slot on rock smash. Love it!
I'm really glad you like the Skill System idea! I actually really like ride Pokemon, but I think I'd like it better if you could ride your own Pokemon, y'know?
Liking HMs is pure nostalgia bias. Try playing the old games and have to run an HM slave again + half your party having completely useless moves just for the sake of walking around one tree then ask again if HMs were that good.
They were discontinued for a good reason.
@@elin111 Well, I didn't say I like HMs. I said I dislike Riding Pokemon and like the connection that HMs provide to your team. I find Riding Pokemon immersion breaking, randomly summoning someone else's pokemon. It feels very hand-holdy.
That's why I love the Skill idea. It eliminates the move slot issue, without breaking the immersion of exploration. In my opinion, using your own Pokemon to explore is makes the game an adventure as oppose to a story.
I like that Legends Arceus kept a list of learned moves seperate from your 4 battle moves and think that a Pokemon should be allowed to trigger the field effect of a move without it being in their battle moves. The skill system solves the same problem though and I like it!
I adored that idea of another sunken ship available to explore that's only accessible within the depths of Hoenn's underwater map. I'd like to imagine that it is traversible through coral reefs and underwater caves until the player finds a light to gain access to this forgotten mystery.
Nobody in the game will be talking about it, until the player discovers a treasure in the ship that finally triggers a hidden dialogue. Maybe one NPC hints of this lost treasure but nobody knows where it is until the player finds it, and then perhaps it unlocks a side-quest too. It's gonna be quite dramatic!
Those are some really interesting ideas! I feel like there's so much potential in a sunken ship, especially for Hoenn! There could be ghost-type Pokemon, spooky music, lore and history, and I really like your idea of people not knowing about the ship until treasure is found! Hoenn seriously has endless potential.
I really like the skill system. Personally what I like about HMs is the fact you get to use your own Pokémon instead of being giving someone else's to rent or just having a single Pokémon doing everything.
Also why not just have some towns have contest halls and some have battle tents? That way it shows how the towns like to present Pokémon in the area.
I agree with both of those ideas! I prefer to use my own Pokemon to get through the region, and I think it could be totally cool to have the battle tents in some cities and towns and contest halls in others. 😊
I think a cool thing for Mt. Pyre would be a bit of a combo of the old and new. The lower levels could be newer looking, but as you ascend more signs of dilapidation become obvious. Basically, the graves began at the top and have been dug deeper over time.
That's a super interesting idea! I would've never thought of that, but that would really improve upon the visual storytelling for sure! I love that idea.
If you're asking if I'd like more content, the answer is, "yes".
You got it 🤘😉
I agree. I can't wait to see her react to Smith Plays -, Emerald Legacy
First of all, Sir Malo is an absolute King with the incredible spritework he did for the video, each one he did looks fantastic! Crazy how much of a difference it makes to the game world by making even just a few adjustments but he overhauled entire areas to make them seem so fresh and vibrant.
The Dive Treasure Hunt is a great idea, since diving itself was a cool idea but simply finding the coloured Shards isn't a good enough reason to actually bother with the mechanic after you're done the Groudon/Kyogre story section that required diving.
Your Glacia/Goldmary change makes so much sense. How on earth we DIDN'T have Grass-type representation in a tropical region focused around nature is baffling. Instead they give an E4 member a type found in one tiny section? Hoenn and Ice just doesn't fit at all.
Small changes like having numerous boats around the sea sections would do wonders for negating the "too much water" complaint, since it isn't that there's TOO MUCH of it, it's that there isn't really anything there to do for most of it. I mean even reaching Pacifidlog feels incredibly underwhelming after taking on that stretch of ocean just to find very little to engage with.
Still blows my mind that they removed the Day/Night cycle introduced with Gen 2, which also seriously hurt FireRed/LeafGreen. Weirdly it made Espeon and Umbreon completely UNOBTAINABLE in Gen 3 since you had no means of connecting to the Gen 2 titles, feeling almost like they're FORCING a Colosseum/XD purchase in order to add those to your Pokédex. (Personally as a kid, this didn't phase me, especially as Colosseum is a highlight of my entire childhood as I adored that game, but still, the scummy practices you notice as you get older really does a number on your perception of your favourite media)
A Pokédex time of day project would make for a great video in all honesty, since it's something we didn't even have to consider without there being a day/night cycle. Like the mostly Grass-types such as Roselia/Lotad etc being common during the morning, Dark types being inherently nocturnal, or Volbeat/Illumise only appearing at night because they're easier to spot with them being fireflies and even obscure ones like Slakoth perhaps only appearing for maybe 4-6 hours of each day, to align with them sleeping most of the day however any areas with Vigoroth would be much more abundant due to their Vital Spirit preventing them from sleeping. It'd be a ton of ton of fun to delve into.
Gym Leaders and the E4 outside of gyms makes the world feel much more alive, as opposed to NPCs just sort of perpetually existing in one location. It was always nice having interactions outside of the obligatory battles in some later Gens, like most of the Gym Leaders showing up to have your back against Team Plasma near the end of Black and White. There's only so much personality that can be conveyed through a couple lines of dialogue so this is an absolutely fantastic addition.
Festivals and Seasons, as someone who adores the Harvest Moon series (or Story of Seasons as they're called now, since the current HM titles are NOT the actual games, but that's a whole tangent for another time haha), would do so much for enriching the game world, as even if you've found yourself getting rather bored, having a big limited time event around the corner would inject so much excitement to a playthrough. And Seasons especially, much like in Black and White could be implemented the same way there, where certain areas were blocked off/made available such as heavy rain flooding a section/even allowing you to surf to new areas or snow blocking certain paths etc to give an incentive to revisit entire Routes for the chance of new encounters or rare items.
Once again Sabrina, just a fantastic video. You're getting even better with each upload and I genuinely look forward to each video. Plus you mentioned early on about having numerous hour long videos instead of splitting them up and I couldn't agree more, as the enormous 2/3/4 hour Retrospectives are some of my favourite types of content on UA-cam, especially since they're so easily digestible podcast-style when doing other things.
I totally understand that the editing times for those can be absolutely brutal though so if it feels like too much, don't feel bad about having to split them up just to keep the channel's growth on track.
Excited for the Orre/Gamecube titles and inevitable visit to Sinnoh! Plus Orre especially could do with a LOT of Region Repairing, as much as I adore those games haha. Also holy hell sorry for the absolutely mammoth-level wall of text, I didn't wanna just throw in a tiny comment for the sake of it and actually show I was genuinely taking in your points haha
Can't wait to see what the future holds for you and the channel, you pretty much immediately catapulted yourself to being one of my favourite content creators with the first video of yours I ever watched 🤝
Well thank you so much for all of the very kind words and complements! I really appreciate you taking the time to write a well-thought-out comment with all of your points of interest! I'm so glad you enjoyed the treasure hunt idea, along with Goldmary, the Gym Leader & Elite 4 being out and about in the region, the beautiful maps that my friend, Sir Malo made, amongst all of the other things you mentioned. 😊 It means a lot that you care so much to share your thoughts and feedback on my ideas! I really worked hard on this video, and I'm so proud of how it turned out. Now, if only Hoenn could actually be remade with all of these ideas 😂 anyway, thank you so much for your support, Malevolent Minun!
You could get Umbreon/Espeon in Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald since they kept time of day.
I'll say this, Goldmary should have a Sceptile instead of a Ludacullo. 2 reasons for this. 1: You didn't want over lap in any of the elite for members, and I would also presume the champion as well sense Wallace has one on he's team too. Reason 2 and the more important one, all of the elite 4 members in ORAS can use Mega Evolution the first time through. Having Sceptile be her mega makes sense with it being the ONLY GRASS IN HOENN that can. Can cheat with Venasaur in both or abomasnow in ORAS, but I feel like Sceptile fits better. It also gives the player hoenn dex no.3 in case they didn't pick the treeko line.
I would love Route 120 east of Fortree to have permanent Sunny Day weather as a counterpart to Route 119's rain.
Oooh! That's a fantastic idea! Same for the peak of Mt. Chimney!
This is movie length of content, you need popcorn for this
Heck yeah! Plus some movie snacks and comfy spot on the couch 😊
Loving the berry farms and treasure hunt ideas!
Love the solutions you provided in this video! There's a ROM hack of Yellow and Crystal, called Yellow Legacy and Crystal Legacy respectively. These games fix a lot of the issues in those gens and I think you might enjoy them based on all the feedback you give to the originals. The dev is working on a Gen 3 version that should be out later this year and hope to see a lot of the updates you suggest in it!
I was so ready to comment that petalburg definitely needs, you know, petals on the trees and whatnot until I made it to that very last segment.
Omg yes! Absolutely! That sounds lovely!
Haha right? Petalburg definitely needs a little more love 😊
Although I have no problem with the "too much water" issue, I love the improvements you proposed regarding the maritime areas. All this would add a perfect plus to the summer feeling of the game!
Well thank you! I agree - I don't have an issue with half of the map being water, just the lack of things to do in that half of the map 😊
It was just yesterday that I thought that the Hoenn Repair Vídeo was probably coming soon, but not this soon. I'm very happy regardless.
You must be psychic! 😊 Thanks for keeping my channel and my videos in mind. 😊
I came across this series a little after this video came out. Its been a fun few days going through these videos! I love gen 3, both kanto and hoenn games so much. And your takes and repairs and rankings have all been great!
I espeically love the idea of introducing festivals. It seems so fitting and not overly complex, like it could feel seemlessly added to these games and fit with the game direction
Well thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the festival idea! 😊
Pacifilog town should have some type of economy. Probably based around fishing. You could have fishing boats pulled up in docks at the town, with one of the captains you can talk to, who will give you random items he picked up in his fishing nets! Make it like the pickup ability, where these could be anything from Potions and Antidotes, to Rare Candy or Big Pearls!
Also, yes, I would very much like a video going over encounter changes based on the time of day!
Sweet! Seems like people really want to see that video 😊
Fixing all of Gen 3 Pokemon designs, world map and mechanics sure is dedication. Respect 👍
Why thank you 😊 I had a lot of help from Sir Malo, but I did make a few of those maps myself. I actually really like creating stuff like that, I'm just not talented to pull it off on a large scale 😅. But I can definitely continue making videos!
@@saffroncitytv That's wonderful to hear! I will personally cheer you on from the sideline and cross my fingers in hopes that all will be well 🤞🤗
You can actually rematch the Gym Leaders in Emerald in Double Battles via the Match Call feature of the Pokenav.
I'd love to see that Hoenn Pokedex video, but that'll be a lot of work. Maybe after all the Region Reviews.
Well, I think it's definitely worth doing 😊 it certainly would be a lot of work though. But I still think it would be a fun project.
For fishing I think it could be cool to have each rod fish at different sea levels. The old rod could only catch mons that you’d find near surface while the super rod could pull deep sea mons like Relicanth with the good rod being of corse in between.
That is a really interesting idea! I've never heard that idea before or even considered something like that! Thanks for sharing your input on the fishing rods, I'm definitely gonna remember that for later. I think that's a really interesting concept!
The whole skills idea reminds me of the original Pokemon Ranger game, where you temporarily catch Pokemon that have inherent skills that allow you to bypass obstacles. I always thought that would be the best way to go moving forward with the games.
That's kinda cool! I'll be honest, I never got to play the Ranger games, but I should probably check them out. 😊
New subscriber here. I love the level of though, attention to detail, and clear love you have poured into these videos. Stray thoughts from throughout:
- Diversifying the water routes is key absolutely. I think you could take it a step further though. Have the routes around Shoal Cave be visibly colder. Maybe the sand tiles become frosty. Maybe the trees become temperate, rocks are icebergs, etc.
- Overall the improvements to the water half are bang on.
- Really like all of the improvements to the towns. Fits the lore and all make sense. Fallarbor's is particularly impressive to me in how innovative but obvious it feels, and the Sootopolis treasure hunt would be so fun.
- I think I land on team swap Phoebe and Brawly. Phoebe might not have much thematic connection to Dewford Island but... Frankly, neither does Brawly. "Dresses for a tropical island" is about as much as "is a surfer" in my view.
- Masquerain is... a nice idea but simply too weak for the champion.
- Always advocate for more of gym leaders appearing outside of the gym!
Hey! Welcome to the channel! Happy to have ya! Also, thanks for sharing your feedback on my ideas. 😊 I think the routes around Shoal Cave being made to look a little frosty would be a really cool idea! I hadn't even considered that! Also, the Brawly and Phoebe swap does make sense, especially considering that Brawly doesn't exactly have a solid connection to Dewford either - you make a fair point. Also, fair point on Masquerain on the champion team as well. I think it probably would be too weak for the Gen 3 games, but I've seen Masquerain be quite formidable in Gen 6. Either way, I'm sure there was a better option out there, I just thought it fit Wallace aesthetically 😊. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and many of the other changes, and I appreciate all of your feedback!
@@saffroncitytv MEGA Masquerain I think is the answer! Looking forward to your videos going forward ♥
I actually really like the idea of switching Phoebe and Brawly. Phoebe could lead with Shedinja, which could throw new trainers off if they don't have something super effective, but there's enough early game options available (even in the cave on Dewford) that you could come back ready. Since Shedinja relies on a weak gimmick it could be a fun early challenge to strategize around. Even more, the player can also obtain a Shedinja before going to Dewford.
Her other two Pokemon would be Duskull and Shuppet as an allusion to her grandparents on Mt. Pyre
This is actually a really good idea! I really like the idea of her using a Shedinja for the early game. You've given me more to think about!
i think ghost that early on is too op. since u still mostly have normal moves at that point, with maybe 2 stab moves
@@Mariokemon in gen 2 Morty was the third gym so ghost early on isn't too unprecedented. Plus you'd have access to poochyena, sableye, and shedinja. And a lot of early Pokemon can learn bite at the very least.
@@BorealDrizzle morty was the 4th gym. midgame, with more than half the region open to you
I loved the idea of reshuffling the elite 4 and gym leaders like this too, including honestly every suggestion.
Phoebe fits better on an island with a spooky darkened cave than in the formal elite 4 chambers. Dare I even say, she should have a Shedinja. As a challenge to encourage trainers to find strategies outside of brute force and overlevelling.
And even if we had 3 fighting type elite 4 members in a row...didn't stop them from 3 fire starters with secondary fighting type in a row, and at least Brawly has a niche of being not a martial artist, but more of a fitness gym bro, who is notably difficult and strategic in his place a a gym leader.
And the entire concept of Goldmary is wonderful, she's the cottagecore icon who has been somehow absent in the series, in the region of farming fields, flowers, mangroves, and tree house towns. I literally swept her original team with a Breloom with sky uppercut just last night, only at the level of her highest. She has a glaring fighting weakness and imbalanced team in an already struggling type.
Personally, i like the longer vids. I'm an OTR driver, and a 4+ hour video makes a 4+ hour drive much more bearable.
Same! I'm also a fan of long-form content!
If gamefreak doesn't hire you, then there's no hope left in this timeline.
🤣 You're too kind! I WISH! Wouldn't that be freaking cool?
Great video ! I'm a fan of the water related ideas and the use of the dad as a teacher
Awesome! Well I'm glad you enjoyed the video, and I only wish we could actually have these experiences in the games.
For Phoebe and Glacia, there's really no reason to limit them to exclusively using their type speciality, in gen 1 and 2 and Diamon and Pearl, E4 members regularly used pokemon outside their type speciality as long as they fit their theme .
For Phoebe, just simply give her a Chimecho, Phoebe is stated to have grown up on Mt.Pyre ( the elderly couple that guard the orbs are her grandparents ) and Chimecho is exclusive to the summit of Mt.Pyre + Chimes and bells are usually used to ward off evil spirits in many myths across the world , thus Phoebes team could be : Sableye, Shedinja, Banette, Chimecho and Dusclops/Dusknoir thus completely giving her a team with no repeats .
Glacia is a bit trickier in the ogs, simply give her a Wailord, plenty of species of Whales live in the arctic and North pole so her having one would fit her type thematically + a water type could throw players who expected to sweep her team with a fire type off guard, so in the remakes her team could be : Froslass, Castform, Wailord, Glalie and Walrein again making sure she has no repeats on her team . In the original games this is a bit trickier tho as Froslass doesn't exist yet, you could simply just give her a repeat Glalie, or maybe give her an Altaria ! Grucia in Scarlet Violet uses one as his ace and it sorta fits because Altarias cloud wings sorta resemble snow ( and Snow usually forms in very high altitudes on Mt peaks, and Altaria IS a flying type) and Altaria could also surprise people who expect to sweep her with a fighting type off guard or maybe give her a Gardevoir ( because she herself wear a fairly large dress ) or maybe give her a Gorebyss whose both elegant AND is a deep sea creature where the temperatures are usually super low, so her team could be : Glalie, Castform, Wailord, Altaria/gardevoir/Groebyss and Walrein
For the water routes add in some lore, perhaps around Kyogre seeing as it represents the ocean. NPCs likes Steven or Team Aqua would be ideal for this as well, learning how the peoples of Ancient Hoenn viewed Kyogre and maybe even using this for where Archie learns about the Red Orb from. Pokemon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea introduced an ancient culture called The People of the Water and Episode Delta introduces the Draconids, a culture that now survives through Zinnia, so a water culture that’s not been active for a long time fits in. Heck, add in a Groudon group to round things out and we’ve got an idea of Hoenn’s past.
That is a really good idea..I'm always down for more history and lore in these games. I think people would've really appreciated the older culture of Hoenn and the legends and tales. I wonder if we will get an expansion on that with like a Hoenn-based Legends Game. 🤔
I'm so Glad i'm not the only one who thought of a Skill HM Mechanic xD It just feels right
Something about Steven Steel in Fourtree just standing there sticking out like a sore thumb really gets me to do a spit take everytime
Another idea for Roxanne
At the beginning of the game you and her pick a fossil at Devon Co, and whichever you decide to pick she’ll use the other for her team + her ace Nosepass
Eg If you picked Anorith, her team would just be Lileep + her ace Nosepass
🤯🤯🤯 Yeah this is perfect. The love put into this video is crazy. I'm getting sad knowing I can't play this version of Hoenn, but I can always come back and watch this haha
Thank you so much, I am truly stoked you loved it!!
I'm excited to listen to this while I work tomorrow, that's almost 1/4 of my workday where I will be fully entertained! ❤
Heck yeah! I also like listening to long form content while I work!
47:51 the SS Tidal visiting the eastern half sounds awesome, but there's geographical issues with each area:
Sootopolis is dive/fly only, no docks
Mossdeep has mangroves, implying that the surrounding sea is only a few feet deep, but maybe the eastern side of the island could work, although the space center is there
Ever grande island has a waterfall blocking access
Pacifidlog is on a reef, bringing in the SS Tidal would destroy the ecosystem unless parked a distance away, but the smaller fishing boats can pass through find
So excited to see this!! On the note of the long videos. I love them let's me consume them at my own pace. I know it took me like 3 days to finish the region review but it was nice to not wait whenever I wanted more lol
Anyway keep up the good work!!
Thank you so much! I'm glad you're enjoying the long-form content. 😊 I prefer long-form content, myself, and though it takes longer to make, I think the finished products are always well worth it. 😊
Hey, just wanted to leave a comment that I stumbled upon your videos on the Hoenn Region review and absolutely LOVED it (quickly consumed the Kanto and Johto ones as well) and was eagerly waiting for the follow up videos ever since! I know how much such long and indepth video reviews take on your end and I just wanna take this oppourtunity to thank you for all your effort and hard work! Kudos!!
Well thank you so much! I'm really glad you're enjoying the content! It sure takes a while to make, but it's so worth it in the end. 😊
1:30:00 - IDK about RS / ORAS, but you can definitely rematch gym leaders in Emerald.
Otherwise, there's so many fantastic ideas in this video. Binged the whole set of Hoenn vids and im a big fan, gonna dig into your older content :D
When it comes to the water type encounters, I'd make Magikarp encounter-able in the areas near civilisation while Carvanha replaces it out in the open water. The idea being Magikarp are scared off by the rougue fishy's.
I agree with the Birds being able to fly out in the oceans, the Huntail & Gorebyss changes & the changes to the whale duo.
For Pacifidlog, I'd make it a more unique Pokemon encoutnerable area, giving them Chinchou, Corsola, Staryu, Lombre, & Luvdisc, just to add to its presige as a location to visit.
The route behind Mossdeep, I'd make a more chilly area & expand the shoal cave. Making Spheal, Sealeo & Snorunt more easily avaliable.
Finally, Whiscash would be visible encounters when diving, only a couple a day & changing locations but they'd be like the Lapras in Union cave from Johto.
Everytime I see a new content from Sabrina I get so excited!! I love the detail and passion put into every video!!!
Aww! Well good! I'm glad I can provide quality entertainment 😊 thanks for sticking around and always checking into my new videos, I appreciate ya!
It’s here, this is not a drill!!
Sound the alarms! 😎
Thanks Sabrina for making Hoenn great again ^.^ 🎉 Also is glad i could help a little bit too 😸
Thank YOU, Silktouch, for sharing your input and helping make this video awesome! 😊 And thank you for all of your support 😊
Great video! I really like your ideas. There actually were gym leader rematches in Emerald though and they were a lot of fun! The final rematches would have Pokemon that weren't even available in RSE sometimes and could consist of any of the 386 Pokemon at the time. Like Brawly has a Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan for example. It's another thing I really wish they kept in the remakes. (No I'm not still mad about the Battle Frontier a decade later, nope not at all.)
I honestly would LOVE to see a discussion around changing the pokedex!!!!
This ideas are really good, I hope they'll exist in future generations.. It'll bring life and thought to the game/world
I'd wanna play a game that feature things like these, as a kid & adult! ^^
Another idea in water routes could be taking the Xmoneyitem Maniacs from Black and White and puting them on boats, put a random one out per day from a finite pool, only going back to full random grabs after every one has been pulled once. I cannot imagine it was outside of hardware limitations at the time, mirage island is more software intensive than even part of this idea.
Love the festival idea. Though, instead of a bog standard summer beach festival, I think a Tanabata cognate would really hit different. Gussy up Slateport's market to be filled with festival stalls and the like. One stall should sell wish slips, that you can take to some sort of bamboo-y area (I forget if Hoenn naturally has one, otherwise it can be added in somewhere) where you can place a wish upon a bamboo tree. You could wish for financial luck (Trainers drop more money, the game rolls twice at the Lilycove Lotto corner each day and gives you the best result, i.e. statistically increasing your odds of winning), style luck (some sort of benefit when making Pokéblocks and increasing your abilities in contests), and friendship luck (increases the rate at which your Pokémon become friends with you, AND doubles shiny odds - as Gen 3 is the only set of games with no way to improve shiny odds outside of RNG Manipulation).
I say this because Jirachi calls this region home, and is entirely themed around Tanabata. Maaaaybe bringing your Channel or Bonus Disc Jirachi to the festival could result in some sort of reward, event, or flavor text too? 😜
The removal of the Safari Zone in ORAS I think it has to do with political correctness in the same fashion as the removal of the casinos, I remember that in those years there was a lot of rising consciousness about the hunt of animals in Africa and all the shady business around it, here in Spain it got to the point that our at the time King got caught hunting elephants ilegally and he literally abdicated in 2014 (the same year ORAS aired), that is my theory at least.
If Fallarbor is made a place where berries grow quickly then it might also make sense to move the berry master there too and find something else for that patch of land by Mt Pyre, maybe like a random ranch or something?
That's actually not a bad idea. 😊 I kinda like the idea of moving the berry master to Fallarbor.
I like HM.
I dislike the fact that forget them is too hard, but i like the feeling of "beating the obstacles with my Pokémon".
Add a move removal in every pokecenter or just make them forgettable, and I would be happy
This is pretty good overview on what you'd like to see changed. Plus there are many clever ideas like your additions to the water routes and cities/towns with little to no content. The underwater treasure hunt and adding various boats in the water routes definitely would make things more lively.
1:21:07 Huh, so now you're finally deciding to come up with your own trainer OC (a grass type specialist fits Hoenn very well) for one of these region repair videos. Although I did point out the idea on your Johto repair video considering there's still the unknowing plothole left unfilled on who will take over Misty's gym when she replaces Bruno as an Indigo E4 member for your version of the Johto events. I'd still keep Glacia for my version as maybe I'd probably just want to expand the Hoenn dex a bit to make it work, as well as keep Phoebe as an E4 member, but I can see why you wanted to replace Glacia. XD
For Wattson, I'd probably replace the repeat Elektrike and the Voltorb with Plusle and Minun, two other Hoenn electric types.
*My Take on Third Gym: Wattson*
Manectric
Level: 24
Ability: Static
Held Item: Sitrus Berry
- Thunder Wave
- Howl
- Quick Attack
- Shock Wave
Magneton
Level: 22
Ability: Magnet Pull
- Shock Wave
- Supersonic (To be annoying XD)
- SonicBoom
- Thunder Wave (Also to be more annoying XD)
Minun
Level: 20
Ability: Minus
- Quick Attack
- Shock Wave
- Light Screen (To be more tactiful against those that don't have a physical ground move and want to brute with neutral special attacks)
- Encore
Plusle
Level: 20
Ability: Plus
Quick Attack
Shock Wave
Encore
Fake Tears
As for Flannery...I'd probably keep her Emerald Team (even if Camerupt is below it's evo level, then again so is Maxie's) but I'd probs replace the repeat Numel with either Vulpix/Ninetales or Combusken XD
*My Take on Fourth Gym: Flannery*
Torkoal
Level: 29
Ability: White Smoke
Held Item: White Herb (Still keeping the brutal White Herb Overheat strat XD)
- Attract
- Sunny Day
- Body Slam
- Overheat
Combusken
Level: 27
Ability: Blaze
- Double Kick
- Aerial Ace
- Overheat
- Bulk Up (Yeah, watch out and try not to let this fried chicken set up too many of these XD)
Magcargo
Level: 25
Ability: Flame Body
- Yawn
- Overheat
- Rock Slide
- Light Screen
Camerupt
Level: 25
Ability: Oblivious
- Overheat
- Magnitude
- Sunny Day
- Take Down
1:31:07 Also, I wonder if Flannery would...react strongly and get pi___ed if you were to play as the male character if you casually walk in her...y'know...and you immediately black out (read: You literally get kicked out and knocked out cold) and find yourself back inside the pokecenter. XD
Another change I'd probably make is actually give Castform a Rock Type SANDSTORM form. Not to mention make *Vol*beat and Illumise dual Bug/Electric (Hilariously, I first mistaken Volbeat as a Bug/Electric type and wanted it on my team when I first played Ruby...until I took a closer look at the information XD) instead of pure Bug.
As I brought up in another comment in your Hoenn Region Review vid, I'd also probably make Pyramid King Brandon from the Battle Frontier a bit more integral in the Regi sidequest...as he is an explorer and this does foreshadow him eventually using the Regis himself. (In the Gold Symbol Battle in my version)
I'd also actually Rock Tomb 60 base power and 95% accurate like in Gen 6 onwards. 80% accuracy and 50 base power is REALLY not worth the speed drop, it's worse than Rock Throw (at least it's 90% accurate instead of a painful 80%) for crying out loud. I can see why Scott's Thoughts absolutely HATES this move in his Emerald solo runs. (*If it's not 100% accurate, you're basically using Dynamic Punch.* A 50% accurate move) This is painfully underwhelming introduction for Gen 3's new rock type move. (Although tbf, it could've been as bad as Gen 2, which has a introduced a crap ton of awful moves and learnsets for the Pokemon) XD
Oh and if this was Gen 3, just like my comment on your Johto repair vid, I'd make all Dark Types physical and all Ghost Type damaging moves special...because seriously, there are even MORE new Dark Type Pokemon in Hoenn that are better physical attackers than special attackers. The only issue is that this would probably make Shedinja worse (Banette and Dusclops respective attacking stats aren't THAT far off from one another) since it's also better physical than special...ah well, can't all be winners. At least physical/special split exists in Gen 6. XD
one of Misty's sisters from the anime could be the replacement. or this could be where lorelei is now.
I really appreciate you taking the time to leave me such a well-thought-out comment. 😊 I personally love your teams for Wattson and Flannery as well. I honestly didn't consider that it may be a little inappropriate for male players to attempt to speak with Flannery while she's in the hot springs 😅 whoops! I also really like all of your other ideas as well, like to Castform and Rock Tomb. As far as Misty is concerned, I'd have to think about it a bit, but I'd probably need to create another Original Character to replace her at her gym. Anyway, thank you for sharing your thoughts and opinions! I appreciate you taking the time to express them. 😊
@@saffroncitytv You're right! And good luck with your potential second Pokemon Trainer OC! Huh, I do wonder if it's possible you might end up making a video covering your Pokemon Trainer OCs if you were to end up coming up with enough of them....even if they'd mostly be tied to your Pokemon Region Repairs videos, which might as well be your personal Pokemon AUs to an extent lol. XD
Right off the bat, I think you've missed the point of Oldale Town. You are correct that there's nothing to do there, BUT THAT'S THE POINT!
You start in a place with "Little" in its name, to show how we all start from humble beginnings. No matter how lucky you were with where/when you were born, we all start knowing nothing, and that's represented in the simplicity of Littleroot.
Then when you go to Oldale, you see what happens at the end of a life-well-lived; people want to find a nice, quiet place in the woods. Peaceful, simple living, with little to no reason for outsiders to pass through.
Hoenn as a whole is about the balance of nature.
Littleroot is the start of a life
The whole of the region is the middle of life
And Oldale is the end
And it's right next to the start
Showing a cycle of simple beginnings, moving into a harmonious existence with nature, and finally ending back with simplicity again
Thanks for sharing your insights. This is something I hadn't really considered 😊
Great video! I kinda like the idea of Pokedex repair series
Thank you! Also, good to know! If enough people ask for it, I'll definitely make a video like that.
More tidal mechanics on coastal and water routes! You can have exposed sandbars at low tide and submerged sandbars at high tide. At each new low tide, you could use the itemfinder like a metal detector in the real world and find random items that washed up on shore!
I think Mantine should be added to Hoenn. It and the Remoraid line would absolutely thrive here
I agree, those really would be perfect for Hoenn!
The Hoenn region has always fascinated me ... however it doesn't mean that it wasn't without its imperfections (the same thing as 'flaws' like you mentioned SC 📺 ) however the Hoenn region really defined my affinity for Pokémon 👍 and Unova (based off Manhattan or NYC) was quite nostalgic for me ^_^ 👍 and while im not quite the Sinnoh region embracer; pkmn D/P/Plt have plenty of ever lasting memories for me :)
I agree, Hoenn also defined my own affinity for Pokemon 😊 I'm really excited to cover Sinnoh, and Unova!
@@saffroncitytv that is good to know ;) 👍 can't wait for the next analysis ^_^
@@saffroncitytv hey SCTV (or Sabrina I suppose), just wanted to kindly tell you how much you've meant to me as I've been having an extremely difficult time IRL, but I don't want you to worry as I've been doing all that I can to ensure my mental well-being is where it needs to be...but hopefully better days are ahead, and you always bring me comfort and joy even in my darkest of times (like lately). And hopefully things start to turn a corner but I'm not entirely optimistic that will be the case as I've endured a lot of trauma, heartbreak, heartache, and misery.... although like I said; hopefully things will be in the way I want them to be.
It would be hard to implement a lore reason behind it but a potential emerald champion fight for both Wallace and Steven fans could be to somehow turn it into a double battle where both of them somehow have the champion role at the same time and you have to battle a random 3 Pokemon from both Steven and Wallace. Would be interesting because you couldn't really build a team around just one of there weaknesses
Glacia could have been renamed to Gracia! (GRAss instead of GLAcier) Or even to Primrose, a call-out to her Japanese name Purim.
Love what you did with the region fixes! It’s been so calming and fun to watch your videos on Hoenn.
Great thinking about changing Glacia's name to Gracia! That is such a cool idea! 😊
Holy heck I missed this getting uploaded! Also yay got my comment featured! Also also... I've since learned that is very much not common knowledge about the bikes, which makes me feel a lot better about only learning it in my mid 20s... And hopefully it helps others enjoy Hoenn more :D
Well if it makes you feel better, I didn't know about the bikes until your comment! So, thank you for always sharing your input, and I hope you enjoyed the video 😊
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Aw, shucks! Thank you so much!
My favorite region!! ah, hoenn my beloved.
Same! I love Hoenn 🥰
I really like the suggested changes to the routes of Hoenn. Mostly, because it gives Team Magma *more* argumentive merit.
If Hoenn had say, unique tiny islands on its water routes where only specific pokemon could be found, the clear implication is that these species of pokemon are *stuck* here. It would explain why Zigzagoon has populated so much of Hoenn's mainland, by learning how to be a great swimmer. Imagine if you could *only* catch Meoth on some tiny island that's 98% water. The cat would be TRAPPED on that island, and Maxie's rhetoric about creating more land for humans and pokemon makes more sense. You could have things like Houndours, Pinecos, Sentrits, and more on these little islands, where they're basically trapped.
This hints at Hoenn's history of ecological disturbance, where the land mass was bigger and the great conflict between kyogre and groudon effectively forced pokemon to live in these tightly isolated areas. It also hints at Mirage Island(s) being solely populated by a single type of pokemon, also, one of the Mirage Island(s) needs to be populated solely by Clefairy, hinting at Hoenn's attachment to the stars, namely, the Moon and its influence on tidal forces. Lilycove literally sports a Cape Canaveral clone. With a weather center, a space center, and an astral telescope Hoenn isn't just invested in what their home is, but *WHY* their home is. Major shifts in the moon, or radical shifts in the weather have HISTORY in Hoenn and this helps support the concerns of the people there.
Hoenn is a region *steeped* in the ecology of itself. Weather is *so* important to then, in large part due to their precarious position. Pacifilog is literally one bad storm away from not existing. The sunken ship you mention could function like an "early" version of the Old Chateu from Diamond and Pearl. A "horror" experience where the player encounters a ship that run-aground. Maybe, in part, due to the Mirage Isles. It didn't notice the island until it was too late. You could tie this into Rayquaza's lore as well, by having the crew *saved* by the dragon, who swept them off to Pacifilog where these NPCs inhabit a house, and tell the player about the pokemon that saved them, and, should the player have Ray, they reward them with a dragon scale or something.
The random boat travellers on the water routes is also good, I'd go a step further, and say any Boatsman you beat in a pokemon battle is added into your pokenav's number list, and upon calling them, the player can have them pick them up for a ride back to a specific coastal spot. This effectively acts as an "escape rope" for water routes, and an intermediary between the SS Title, and Fly. It *also* gives some use to *ADULTS* in a pokemon game, who tend to be utterly useless to the child protaganist. Sure, you're old enough to capture God, but, you don't have a license, so sometimes you need to call somebody who does.
I disagree to adding the Johto water pokemon to mirage islands, I think those ought to be added to the list of encounters on water normally. Mantine via diving, quillfish via good & super rod, remoraid via good rod on the area of the rapid current.
Good call on the gym leaders. Giving Roxanne the pre-evolved fossils is a masterstroke because not *only* does it fit with her gym, but, it's Silphco who RECONSTITUTES the fossils to begin with. She LIVES in that town, her whole thing is being like, a student teacher about fossils, it makes the worldbuilding better by giving her those two. Ditch the geodude, you had to face enough of those from her gym trainers. This ALSO gives her a counter to Mudkip and Treeco, which makes her a more formiddle challenge for all players regardless of the starter they chose, rather than giving people who picked grass or water an easy sweep.
As for the Elite Four? Look... I love Glacia's design. But she's literally here just to wall you out before the monster that is Drake. She has a TON of bulky pokemon with mean attacks, who exists to drain your resources before you have to tangle with the Dragon guy, and then Stephen "Balls of Steel" Stone. I whole heartedly think that Gamefreak intended players to need to use "Struggle" at SOME point during their Champion Challenge, because EVERYONE but Sydney has got some damage sponges.
That's why I say we swap Glacia with Wallace as an Elite 4 member, and, we swap Wallace with Drake in the Elite 4 line. You meet all the new characters for challenges 1-3 then with the 4th member you're reintroduced to Wallace after him, Juan, and Stephen assist the player with the weather conflict. Rather than selling Juan as a water gym, we sell him as an Ice Gym who just so happens to include a lot of Water pokemon, because that worked *just* fine for Lorelai in gen 1, give Juan a Walrein, swap his Luvdisc for a Huntail, and his Crawdaunt for a Glailie.
This way, we get to keep Walace AND Stephen in the final bout. Wallace's champion team is no joke, and doesnt need changes, and I don't think giving him a Gardevoir is a good call, because Wally's ace is a Gardevoir prior to Gallade's introduction.
Also, you say there's no way to rematch Gym leaders, but, there is. Like any trainer in your pokenav in Emerald, the Gym Leaders can call you and offer a rematch. It's rare, but, it happens. Their pokemon are leveled up a bit, and you don't get anything special for it, but you can, eventually, rematch them. It just takes time, as they have low call priority in the pokenav and basically only call I think in the post-game? It's been awhile since I've played Emerald, regardless, your system works better. It adds interactivity to the world, and gives these Elite Trainers lives outside of standing in their designated challenge spot.
However, I do think this should then be accompanied by a way to advance time without needing to run home and set your clock. Activities like sleeping, using the hotsprings, fishing, planting and/or watering berries, making pokeblocks should all have a "time value" that advances the in-game clock in large chunks upon completion. For instance, watering a berry for one A press jumps the in-game clock by 5 minutes, naking a pokeblock takes 10min, a dip in the springs jumps ahead by 30 minutes, fishing by and hour, using a pokemon center is a 20min affair per pokemon so a full team will throw you 2hrs ahead, and sleeping nets you an 8 hour jump ahead. This can also tie into the sea locomotion discussed earlier, where boats have different routes and different speeds for those routes, so maybe the Title can take you from Slateport to Lilycove, but that's a 5hr journey by cruise, you may be better off talking to Ol' Boatman Andy in Pacifilog who can ONLY take you to lilicove, but, he can reach there in a faster time in his schooner taking only 3hrs to get there. This ALSO adds a dynamic to fly, by allowing the player to radically cut down on travel time.
Likewise, finding one of these elite trainers out of their element should give the player the option to join them in their activity, which will then fade the screen like Leaf Green and Fire Red's white out text, and say something like "You spend your time with them, then, head to the pokemon center to rest" and this jumps the in-game clock to an hour into their "shift", putting you at the Pokemon center closest to them (in the case of the Elite 4 it doesnt do this, because you can challenge them whenever) so that way a player REALLY looking for a rematch is just 2 button prompts away from their rematch, rather than having to find an optimal way to accelerate time to their desired hour.
Hey Sabrina! I can finally discover all your wonderful ideas! Having helped you a bit on this one, I thought I'd have a good overview, but damn you have so many amazing ideas!
If only I had had more time to help you on those as well ; like for Johto, I almost want to start a fangame with everything you detailed on your video to make for the perfect Hoenn game!
I especially love your take on Skills: it's a great way to keep the natural obstacles, while having YOUR Pokémon being helpful. To me it's the perfect way to improve the HM system.
Obviously, all your propositions about encounters would make the game much more diverse, and I'd lie if I said I wouldn't like a video about a totally revamped Dex...! Same goes for lore and special trainers. Having Norman teaching you battle technics is so clever, and having Glacia replaced by a Grass Champion totally makes sense.
And don't get me started on day/night, seasons and festivals... You already know how hyped I was when you talked to me about that!!
I'm really looking forward to hearing all your ideas again and hope I'll have a chance to work with you again, I haven't had so much fun creating stuff for a while!
Hey! Why thank you for all the compliments on my ideas! I think you and I collaborating together on the seasons and your beautifully crafted maps really took this video to the next level! I loved the way that this one turned out, and I think you knocked those maps out of the park! Thank you again for all of your help, and I can't wait to collaborate with you again on the next one! 😊
I've rewatched this a second time. Gamefreak should be watching your videos for good ideas haha
I'm down to seeing those 2 videos you asked about (fixing Hoenn's PokeDex & which Pokémon would be at what time of day). Phoebe's team could see: Sableye, Banette, Dusclops (Dusknoir in Gen 6), Gengar & Misdreavus (Mismagius in Gen 6) (we can say she went on vacation to Johto/was native to Johto like the player character & caught a Gastly & Misdreavus while on vacation there/living in Johto). The changes made in this video, I hope TheSmithPlays & his team implements them in Emerald Legacy.
ooh my random idea for sootopolis would have been magikarp races across the very calm lake.
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Soaring the much cooler way to use fly that wouldn’t make a comeback until scarlet and violet’s indigo disk dlc. I found my first shiny pokemon using that mechanic it was a shiny murkrow (I started with actual gen 3, I am not very lucky).
I agree about soaring. I absolutely love that mechanic. And I'm sorry you haven't found a shiny until recently, but I'm glad you actually found one! And what a cool Pokemon to have a shiny!
After you're done with the region reviews and repairs of all regions, you could start a new series about fixing game mechanics like the Pokedex of certain games, etc
Anyways great video and hope you've started your journey in Sinnoh ;)
What an awesome idea!! Thank you so much, I am so glad to hear you enjoyed the video. Sinnoh will be worth the wait, I promise you!
@@saffroncitytv Take your time, we will be there!! :P
Another great video! I definitely agree that Oldale and all the other towns needed those fixes, love the Swarm idea in Oldale and Norman actually acting like a father. And yeah Pacifidlog DEFINITELY needs something, there have been many playthroughs were I accidentally skipped over that town completely. One of the things I would've done was add in a contest hall there, I mean the anime had a contest hall there, why not have one in the games too? It always bothered me that May needed 5 ribbons in the anime and you only need 4 ribbons in the game, that would've been a simple enough change and give you another reason to return to Pacifidlog. YES I strongly agree to plant some berries in Fallarbor! That always bothered me that you couldn't. And yeah! The treasure hunting idea is pretty fun! Why didn't they implement something like that with all the dive spots in Hoenn? And yeah when you're on those water routes, you can literally be in the middle of an entire blue screen with NOTHING on it, I like the sunken ship and other ships idea. Maybe one of those ships is in a different route each day and has some small incentive to find it.
Huh sometimes I forget how much they changed in ORAS, I mean Mauville City is hard to forget but New Mauville and Mt Pyre I forgot they "cleaned" it up a bit and took away a lot of that charm from Gen 3. I find it weird how they update certain things and make them better but remove other features to make them worse...like removing the Battle Frontier, still salty about that one.
I love the Skills idea, because I hated the ride Pokemon in Sun/Moon because like you said, it's not MY Pokemon. It just feels weird to use someone else's Pokemon to traverse the world. So I like the Skills idea so you are still using YOUR Pokemon. I also wholeheartedly agree with the water encounters! Every tile is a potential for encounter, and Hoenn has SO MANY water types. WHY would you limit it to the WIngull and Tentacool lines? Especially since you can find a Wingull super early in the game too, and encounter Tentacool pretty early too. This would be a great way to show off some of the other NEW Hoenn Pokemon instead of only seeing Pokemon we've seen hundreds of times already from earlier in the region.
I agree with you on the gym leader stuff. The Emerald version teams are WAY better than the RS teams and I know that ORAS is an enhanced remake of RS...but when a version of 2005 is better than a 2014 version of a game...that's a problem. Also yeah I know Phoebe having a repeat is bad and it's a fun idea to imagine her and Brawly swap, I agree. Keep Brawly as the gym leader, and Phoebe as an E4. Ooh but that would be a fun video for you. What if all the Gym Leaders were Elite 4 members, or what if the Elite 4 members were like the first gym leader, what their teams would be. MandJTV did a thing about that (what if every gym leader was the first gym leader and what if every gym leader was the last gym leader). It was an interesting series of videos that I can see you doing a take on too.
I love the festival idea! That sounds so fun! I really wish they would bring back seasons instead of JUST having that in BW/BW2, that was such a neat mechanic I'd like to see used more often. Once again, great video. Excited for the next one!
I’d love Pacifidlog town to host a fishing contest, similar to the bug catching one north of goldenrod city
Really like the ideas with most of the video, the diving contest fits fantastically as does the expansion of many of the towns.
Hm's are always a tricky subject and everyone has their own preferences as to how they are handled at this point, so ill leave that alone.
As for the teams, definitely agree on everything right up until the E4.
Juan to me needs to keep Ludicolo, it feels like one of his signature pokemon. Gardevoir does suit him nicely and i could see a Ninetales too.
Phoebe I do agree could very much make use of a Shedninja, its a cool pokemon for an elite 4 member to get and as far as I remember isnt used by any other trainer in the region. You could probably keep her second Dusclops, maybe swap out the confuse ray and have one be more offensive and the other more debilitating.
Glacia however, while I personally do like the image of her with two Glalie, her two Sealeo and Walrein is just too much. You could easily cut the Sealeo, Hail form Castform is a fun idea, especially if the player tried to counter the hail with something like sunny day.
And for the other Sealeo spot I don't see why we couldn't just throw in a previous gen pokemon, both Drake and Juan use on their teams.
While yes as things stand there really are no other options in the Hoenn dex, Its simply a strange choice when designing the game that way in the first place, I see little reason why they couldn't have chosen one of the icetype Kanto or Johto pokemon to add to the dex to round her team out rather than say Doduo or Rhyhorn lines or something like Golduck for a Lapras in the safari zone.
Lots of great ideas in this video; kudos! Tbh, I don't think having repeat Pokémon is *that* huge of an issue, so I really disagree with changing Glacia this drastically, although I do of course agree that it's really weird that Hoenn, the "tropical Japan" Region, had an Ice Type specialist but not a Grass one.
Personally, I think I'd prefer it if, instead of retconning trainers to this degree, you just added a few Pokémon lines to the Dexes to refurbish Types and the roster as a whole as part of the repairing process.
I can respect your ideas. I think the Pokedex revamp is kinda necessary at this time 😅
Ride Pokémon did appear in X and Y, albeit for specific areas and not yet as replacements for HMs, so they could have been implemented in some fashion in ORAS.
9:50 still better than their relationship in the manga lol
Definitely interested in a Hoenn Pokédex revamp! Do it! 😅 (When/if you have time, of course...)
It seems like a lot of people are interested in a video like that 😊 maybe I will start working on it.
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her name is sabrina and the channel is saffron city tv - sabrina is the gym leader
i have no idea how i missed that
Since you seem particularly passionate for Hoenn, I recommend you check out the UA-camr Bisa, who's trying to revamp the old Hoenn games to be more extensive and lived-in, and he's doing an amazing job!!
I surely will! Thank you for the recommendation! 😊
Truly great vid & overall attitude. Although it kinda spoils my hoenn love and admiration a little bit, you know comparing what is with what it could be. Hope that game freak remakes these (and all) games & appoints you as a content-design consultant:D
Well I'm glad you enjoyed the video 😊 don't let it spoil your love for the Hoenn games, they're still fantastic games and scored really well on the review. There's still a lot to love about them 😊. Also, I think it would be cool to get another remake of these games, though, I think it'll take quite a while. 😅
@@saffroncitytv well, they definitely are, especially given their release time, so my love wont be spoiled dw 🤣 love isn't entirely determined by how great is something anyway, it's also about the bond you have with it and my bond with these games can't be spoiled by anything. And yeah we won't probably get remakes for a long time to come, but please send a cv (or at least this vid) to gamefreak😁
Hoenn NEEDED Mankey and Aipom. It's a jungle. Give me monke. Maybe Arcanine too :)
Honestly Hoenn could have done with a savanna, for those typically safari zone Pokemon
I'll keep that in mind when I make the Pokedex revamp video 😎
@@saffroncitytv let's goooo
Actually most Kanto grass types fit Hoenn more
In ORAS the gymleaders actually can be found around the region after you beat the game, Flannery is in scorched slab and Roxanne is in the fossil maniac's house bribing him with a badge lol you can't rematch them unfortunately but it's nice to see gymleaders outside of the gym
for Phoebe, an idea could be that she has one of the non-ghost types found on mt pyre. either chimecho or ninetales. im leaning more to the later
I also kinda like Ninetales for Phoebe. That's a really good idea!
When not just your party, but the whole region needs a trip to the Pokemon Center.
🤣 Well, I think all of the regions will need a trip to the Pokemon Center. But Hoenn's Eastern half definitely needed it 😬
Everyone is kungfu fighting literally floored me 🤣🤣🤣
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Something I hated about Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl was the lack of Gens 5-8 Pokémon including hisuian forms and legends arceus evolutions
I agree a grass type specialists would fit Hoenn a lot but I would have made it the Gym Leader of Fortree City, then the Elite for member instead of Glacia could have been a flying type specialists
The problem I now remember with your suggestion for ORAS is that in Slateport the PC gets scouted by the new NPC (Forget her name of the top of my head). Maybe a different suggestion is that in ORAS, the locations for normal and hyper rank contests are swapped. This way, you still have to go to Verdenturf to get a new Pokémon to Master Rank in contests, and we can keep the scout location where it is.
And I don’t think moving it to Verdenturf works right either, because of Slateport just being a busier place due to being a port town.
The wait is over finally can’t wait to see it all
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13:17 I always felt that the trendy phrase isn’t actually trendy, but people in Dewford believe you because word travels slowly there and you’re their only contact on the outside who claims to know what’s the “latest thing” is.
Yeah, that's a fair point. 😊
1:14:35 I wish Norman had one Johto pokemon, as a reminder of home
9:20 To be fair, in every Pokémon game, you become an absentee child to your mom back home.
I couldn't agree more my friend!
I think contests should've been an alternative to badges, only not required to beat the game. it would mirror the anime in a way, not directly, but it would give you two goals. You could have a team for contests like you would regularly, only rules of contests are different. You have the appeals round, but also a battle round, but instead of choosing moves based on type effectiveness, you choose a move based on what gives you most appeal that turn, it then becomes a game of who can gain the most appeal of the audience by the time they KO another. It would incentivize players to use Pokemon otherwise inept in battle like Delcatty or Luvdisc, two Pokemon made for contest. It could even justify your rival's weak team, perhaps they start out Pokemon training only to end with a goal of contests and research. Your contest team could have their own ways to level up Mons or deposit them while you still with main team and you collect ribbons the same you do badges. The reward for collecting all could be up to imagination, but that's my own spin on them.
That is such an interesting idea! 😊 See, I would've never thought of that, but that really would help to integrate the contests into the region a little better! Thanks for sharing your input, I think that's such a cool idea.
I'm pretty sure the Safari zone game is gone from both ORAS and later games is that people just don't like it. It's not really a popular mechanic and GameFreak ended up trying 4 different ways to make it work before giving up.
It is a bummer that the game aspect was cut from ORAS though.
Region repair whoooo
I live for this series 🔥🔥
😎🤘 Thanks for being a real one.
Had to smile seeing my comment there :3 and then blush when I saw two typos I missed >.< also, gotta change that handle, never noticed it is hard to read/pronounce. Gotta look where to change it to something more readable.
Anyway, thanks for the mention, was hoping I would make it into the video :3 and the video turned out very nicely. Didn't think of the mangroves before, but they really do work well to add more walkable areas to the water routes, and they still feel like water routes. Very nice idea there (and on stuff like the treasure hunt and stuff)
Also, a video on "fixing the pokedex" would also be interesting. I actually liked the pokedex back when it came out. I know some people didn't like that you couldn't catch all gen 1 and 2 pokemon, but I found it added to the flavour of a new region with a different fauna. Plus, what most people don't even know is that originally, Gamefreak had meant to do what they only ended up doing for real in gen 5, and make the Hoenn Pokedex consist entirely of new pokemon. But they had to scrap the idea and fill the dex out with older pokemon. So, even though I don't mind the dex as it is, considering it became that way not because it was intended that way from the start, but because Gamefreak had to pick older pokemon they thought would fill certain gaps, I guess it would be very interesting to see where they might've missed a chance there...or made a mistake, in hindsight. So, yeah, I'd vote for a video like that :3
Hey! I'm glad you got to see your comment in the video 😊 (it's ok - I, myself, make typos all the time) but yeah! I think that revamping the Hoenn Pokedex could be a really fun project. Also creating a system for Pokemon encounters if Hoenn had a day/night cycle. Who knows? If enough people ask for them, maybe I'll do both videos! 😊
I hope someone in this audience makes rom hacks because we need a "Pokemon Saffron Emerald" ASAP!
I am sure I will be going back to this as I finish the video but it will be a while and I want to make sure I don’t forget to mention these.
Personally, for the underwater routes while I like the thoughts you had I also would love to see some underwater ruins as well. Possibly playing more on the Regi’s lore besides just the caves or maybe some special areas where you can surface and get more pokemon.
As for HM and travel, if you are already incorporating boats why not just have those instead of the surf skill/hm? Of course that would get rid of the diving unless we get access to a submarine after Magma/Aqua steal theirs or a diving suit. Plus I am pretty sure other rpg games I played back then had similar items needed to traverse those areas.
Edit 1: Never mind I got my answers just a few seconds after where I paused. By the way I would also love a Pokemon game that was like Story of Seasons/Harvest Moon
Underwater ruins is such an awesome idea! Damn! I wish I would've thought of that one - especially if it's going to give more lore to the Regi Trio. Also, if they ever made a Pokemon Story of Seasons/Harvest Moon type of game, I would literally play nothing else 🤣
@@saffroncitytv it would also have connections to the Groudon/Kyogre as they could be why the city sunk.
Anyways I know you probably are working on Sinnoh, which I personally think is overrated but that’s a personal thing. What I wanted to say is, one of the things that I don’t like about Sinnoh is that they took the dive mechanic away and how they changed the secret bases so that all bases were in the underground with no variety. As such I hope you bring those up in the Sinnoh videos
Oh yay i've been looking forward to this one.
Oh good! I hope you enjoy it. 😊🤘
@@saffroncitytv i did, it was a really fun watch. Seriously excellent work. ☺️☺️☺️
The oceans of Hoenn are just water and water and water water. Nice job fixing them!
Also I would love to see a time-based Pokémon appearance video.
Thank you! I'm glad you liked my ideas! Also, I'm now really considering making a video going over the Pokemon encounters for Hoenn if it had a day/night cycle. A few other people have been interested in that idea as well 😊
It could be cool if starmie was only available in mossdeep city/ near it because of the space connection