Two quick points from the first couple minutes. 1. Link doesnt have to use the Fierce Deity mask to beat Majora, he scales to Majora in base then gets amped to be even higher above with the FD mask. 2. Demise shouldn't be counted when talking about threats Ganondorf is superior to since Hyrule hadnt yet been founded when Demise was around. Plus ganandorf is a reincarnation of Demises Curse, meaning it would still be Demise causing the threat
@@cyrus8886 In-Canon that may be true, just like it's in-canon that Link has to kill his beloved fire lizard pet Volvagia (Read the manga!), but in-game, one can beat Majora on their own without the FD mask amping the power level to excessively extreme heights. The FD mask isn't even OBTAINED unless you have all the other masks and play with all the other kids before starting the final battle w/ the Majora kid on the moon. Most who don't know the game don't know this is a thing you can obtain in the first place, so it would make sense that FD isn't considered while playing the game. My belief that that's what Kin was mentioning.
Even if the Triforce had to manifest itself, it obeys the one who *touched* it first, a single touch (and a balance of Courage, Power and Wisdom to prevent the split of it if you don't wanna work to unify it) grands you and ONLY you access to infinite power in the form of Omnipotent Wishes for as long as you live. Meaning contact with this object gives you the Potential of becomming (almost) equal to the Christian God. It is indeed possible for the Triforce to have multiple owners at once, this would prevent someone else of becomming Omnipotent if he has to kill those first who shared their wish with the Triforce, so if both somehow Touch it at the same time this technically evens both out (if it would be put against each other it might be interesting to see, since it's infinity vs infinity then)
Late to the video, but I also like to add that if someone wants to leave out cut content of the Miranda flowers, then you could use the golden order greatsword and Miquella/Radagon ring of light incantation as a way to give the tarnished speed of light feat, since the item description and even the title state that those things are made of light.
In the framework of extended modal realism, David Lewis argued that all possible worlds exist concretely and independently. However, this raises the question of the nature of the relationships between these possible worlds. How do you envision the metaphysical connections or lack thereof between these worlds? Are there any overarching principles or mechanisms that govern their existence and interactions? Moreover, how might these connections impact the notion of identity across possible worlds, and does the theory provide a satisfactory account of causation and modality within and between these distinct realms of existence?
Is the reason that Kratos vs Sekiro & Malenia vs Wolf became outdated was because:_ Tanished having both Space-Time Manipulation & Conceptual Manipulation could allow him to beat Kratos w/o the Flame of Frenzy due to the Kratos not showcasing such resistance except maybe the concept of fear through the concept of hope? Or is it a one sided stomp and the reason its outdated is because of the additional information As for Malenia vs Sekiro. The Stomp might have gotten so bad that even a Lowballed Malenia just one shots & blitzes wolf while GOR might kill him based on her presence due to SR?
Nah lol, I don’t think the Tarnished beats Kratos remotely, I also don’t think LOFF is outerversal anymore. The video is outdated because the information and meta’s I used were garbo for both combatants and a lot of scaling has changed for both of them respectively since. Kratos has dealt with CM besides hope and fear plus space-time manip in the Norse saga of games btw, but none of that actually matters if Kratos can just blitz the Tarnished and one-shot. Yes, Malenia dog walks the entire Sekiro verse. I said it’s outdated for that because the information I presented for Malenia is outdated as well but I will be doing Malenia Vs Madara as a collab soon going over her up to date meta so look forward to that!
Coming back to this video after 9 months. Are you still around or did you quit YT? If you are still thinking of doing others video on power scaling, ever gonna make another Tarnished focus scaling with the DLC? Also for curiosity, what do you think about CSAP Tarnished scaling (the one which consider Outer lvl via conceptual manipulation)
You bring up the moon spells, but you neglected to bring up the fact that Link could technically block or absorb the moon attacks w/ the mirror shield. The Mirror Shield inandofitself is not magic in any form, so it would have no initial effect. Then the absorption would take place, and Link could send it right back at the Tarnished, thus removing magic from BOTH of their arsenals as a viable source of damage due to both characters having counters to attacks from the other. In bare bones vanilla fighting tactics, which is what the fight would come down to at the end, Link has more combat experience to draw from, so he'd evidently win the fight against the Tarnished in this manner.
He already tackles that argument though. He says how the Tarnished has faced opponents that could reflect magic back at them and has faced enemies that can literally mimic them, not to mention the tarnished also has spells and shield that could counter magic just like the mirror shield.
@@sixzero2733 the video also talks about close combat and how it could possibly end, I’m not going to repeat what the UA-camr said, all I’m going to say is rewatch the video because he does bring it up.
If you can somehow join the discord (click the link in my description) I genuinely wouldn’t mind sharing that information bc it’s hard to access and something most of the community doesn’t really know exists.
On a technical level you could be right, but the Tarnished as a person on their own isn't inherently good or evil. It's the person controlling them that makes the Tarnished scales of morality like that tip from one side or the other. The Master Sword - The Blade of Evil's Bane - only seals if the intended target is actually evil. From the perspective of an outsider, the Tarnished in this fight is on a neutral path, and therefore would not be subject to the sealing magic of the Master Sword. Not to mention that in order to seal with the Master Sword, it's also required to have the power of the 7 sages, which in this battle Link does not have.
Also, could you possibly do a more “in depth” dive of Bloodborne scaling? I’m tired of people saying that it doesn’t even get to town level or sonic speeds. Plus it would allow me to point people towards this channel.
Bloodborne would scale to complex multy via cosmology and Great Ones. With some bosses having space-time manipulation, reality bending, dimensional travel/ascension/transcendence/creation/destruction. The verse lack a bit in Speed (ftl via laser Attack) but if you use the comics (even if they are not Canon) you can scale it to inaccessible lvl of Speed via the Moon side Lake. Hunter have many weapons, moder/advanced tech, but not really something like Tarnished or Link (like elemental or conceptual weapons, magic or Attack). Hunter is very skilled in taking down Monster (since that's the purpose of Hunters). He can feel and see higher/lower dimensions (via Insight stats lorewise) so he have some kind of Cosmic/dimensional awarness. For AP, he would scale between Universal to complex multy, since Great Ones create whole higher dimensions. If you want, i can send you the Bloodborne cosmology scaling on Discord (to he honest, Bloodborne is mostly carried if not carried only by the Cosmology)
A few responses: ___ First off, OoT or LttP link wins, though any other version probably loses. Link has identical physicals and superior resistances to magic (specifically dark and black magic) courtesy of the Triforce. The source of the Triforce (the Goddess Hylia) is arguably superior to the Elden Beast, going based off of each game's conceptual lore. You cannot powerscale the Tarnished (or any Soulsborne MC) by the enemies they defeat, because the enemies in ER can be defeated based on player-specific builds which are not canon to the lore. The Tarnished is as powerful as the player's build. When debating the Avatars (e.g the Ashen One, the Good Hunter, etc) they must be debated from the perspective of the story and cutscenes. A common mistake that you Soulsborne debators make is the assumption that the Avatar will have all the items and abilites that exist in the game at the time of the fight -- which is ludacris. The lore-accurate Tarnished would lose. If this is the composite version (as in, he/she has access to every ability, item and weapon in ER), they would lose to a composite Link. ___ Death Battle are basically a collection of normies. They are not to be taken seriously. They do surface-level "research", that is often wrong or intellectually dishonest. Remember that these are the people who said that Raiden could cut through Adamantium, a substance that cosmic forces could not break, based on a scan of Admantium Beta *(a far less durable version of Adamantium, meant to be mass-produced).* These people are a joke and their videos/opinions should be considered entertainment--nothing else. ___ Ganondorf was "the biggest threat to Hyrule" in that he was successful in essentially destroying it. This is not a power-scalling feat and statements are not quantifiable. This was a subjective statement that you are taking literally for the purposes of your argument. If I say "Lex Luthor is the biggest threat to the planet", that doesnt magically make him stronger than Superman. It means that the threat he poses overall is bigger, likely because he has deeper pockets and connections than Kal. Ganondorf is essentially an avatar of Demise, so he is -- quite literally -- inferior to Demise. Demise also never said that Ganondorf would be stronger, he simply said that -- through Ganondorfs -- his (Demise's) hatred will live on. _____ The Tarnished cannot dodge light, I hate when weebs make this stupid argument too btw: There is a difference between video game-mechanics and actual physics. In ER, the player is able to dodge "beams of light" because (1) they are reacting to the clearly telegraphed attack *BEFORE* it actually comes down, (2) *the beams in the game are not actually lightspeed,* unless you are suggesting that gamers have "faster than light" reflexes and (3) in combination with the previous two, the beams are in a fixed location that are easy to telegraph and dodge. To claim a character is FTL, you must provide a legitimate feat of them dodging a confirmed FTL attack (such as a cuscene), not a game mechanic. This is like when people say "Cloud has Star-Level durability because he survived Supernova", when the entire party can survive/wipe on SN based on a *GAME MECHANIC!* This also applies to Link deflecting back balls of light that are clearly and obviously not moving at light speed. The same also applies to dodging bullets, in that there is a difference between dodging a bullet and dodging the barrel of a gun (preemptively) before the bullet is fired. Provide a scan, cutscene or instance *(that is not connected to the player's build or game mechanics)* of the Tarnished dodging light and I will believe that this is possible. The Tarnished can be tagged by Milenia, the Valliant Gargoyle and other low-level beings; *they are not "faster than light."*
Both character’s are close in terms of strength and attack potency, but the tarnished wins since they out hax the hunter in terms of abilities and have better/more concrete speed feats.
@@AudrionIrks yeah actually, many. 1- Both Franchise are pretty much the opposite yet with many similarities in the genre (dark fantasy and fantasy) 2- Both Franchise have Goty winners 3- Both main protagonist are skilled in many type of combat (from magic, to close, ranged etc..) 4- Both protagonist are quiet warriors with a Deep lore and story 5- Both famous games (Botw and ER) are important open world wich changed the game industry
I think link takes this the triforce alone makes him invincible he also has infinite magic and he can also turn into fierce deity link who can definitely blitz the tarnished
Tarnished's moon spells counter infinite magic, sealing it away and rendering them more defenseless towards magic abilities. Link's only counter to this is the Mirror Shield.
Matching The Tarnished against child Link was kinda unfair and on top of that you gave him the full power of the Eldin ring. I feel like it would have been more fair if you used adult or teenage link as child link relies more on magic and other outside help rather than personal abilities. But I feel like hero of the wild vs The Tarnished would be extremely close but idk who’d win. Anyway cool video
You’re like misconstruing what I said. For starters I said death isn’t even on the Elden ring in any of the endings when he ascends to “lord”. I mentioned it nonetheless to explain what wielding/brandishing the Elden Ring in general entails, maybe listen before commenting. Wielding/Brandishing the Elden Ring is control over the concepts that are governed by the runes, this is explicitly stated and I care less about your personal incredulity. He tanked the flames powered by the rune of death at point blank range in a non-interactive cutscene, something the player has no control over meaning the feat canonically happened and you can’t progress in the game at all without triggering that non-interactive cutscene. The Tarnished isn’t immortal? Yea you’re just coping in all honesty.
You can still scale him to destined death by Maliketh for three reason: 1- Maliketh fought and won against the Gloamed eyes Queen, when She had Destined Death 2- Destined Death is still not able to stop grace 3- Blasfemus claw can stop Destined Death
did you seriously use 'it doesn't turn to night time when in the farm/city" as proof the FARM FREEZES TIME AND NOT THAT IT@S JUST A GAME MECHANIC? ARE YOU MENTAL?
Ughh no? Maybe before attempting to sound smart actually listen to the video. Those words never came out my mouth like literally. I never even tried to correlate that in the video….stop projecting your personal incredulity onto me it’s annoying.
@@TheRogueGuyI feel for y’all UA-camrs in the scaling community bruh y’all gotta deal with comments like this that don’t even hold any relevance to the video. It’s just them typing and yapping for negativity for no logical reason in the comments
In this context that’s just an argument from ludonarrative dissonance. This kind of logic is atrocious and your using it to dismiss lightspeed scaling bc the constraints of the mechanics of a Miranda flower who happens to shoot beams of light or an enemy that can shoot lasers present it a certain way in the mechanics when the lore straight up says something else. It’s 2024 going on 2025, understand the limitations of video games for them to be balanced and playable, and to not use these limitations to suit your headcanon. Both of these statues and flowers are legit fodder in the grand scheme of things and this is your rebuttal lmao. It prolly would work against someone who doesn’t know the ins and outs of video game design.
Fire video bro
Rouge gotta hit us with the "NOOOOOOO" at the start of each vid
Two quick points from the first couple minutes. 1. Link doesnt have to use the Fierce Deity mask to beat Majora, he scales to Majora in base then gets amped to be even higher above with the FD mask. 2. Demise shouldn't be counted when talking about threats Ganondorf is superior to since Hyrule hadnt yet been founded when Demise was around. Plus ganandorf is a reincarnation of Demises Curse, meaning it would still be Demise causing the threat
Thank you I was thinking the same thing
It's Canonically confirmed in the historia that link used the firece deity mask to kill majora outside of gameplay
@@cyrus8886 In-Canon that may be true, just like it's in-canon that Link has to kill his beloved fire lizard pet Volvagia (Read the manga!), but in-game, one can beat Majora on their own without the FD mask amping the power level to excessively extreme heights. The FD mask isn't even OBTAINED unless you have all the other masks and play with all the other kids before starting the final battle w/ the Majora kid on the moon. Most who don't know the game don't know this is a thing you can obtain in the first place, so it would make sense that FD isn't considered while playing the game.
My belief that that's what Kin was mentioning.
I did not think The Tarnished was this powerful. He might be equal or slightly above Sora. Really Impressive.
Even if the Triforce had to manifest itself, it obeys the one who *touched* it first, a single touch (and a balance of Courage, Power and Wisdom to prevent the split of it if you don't wanna work to unify it) grands you and ONLY you access to infinite power in the form of Omnipotent Wishes for as long as you live.
Meaning contact with this object gives you the Potential of becomming (almost) equal to the Christian God.
It is indeed possible for the Triforce to have multiple owners at once, this would prevent someone else of becomming Omnipotent if he has to kill those first who shared their wish with the Triforce, so if both somehow Touch it at the same time this technically evens both out (if it would be put against each other it might be interesting to see, since it's infinity vs infinity then)
Good video👍 Sukuna VS The dark Lord Harry Potter versus jujitsu kaizen
once in a blue moon.....
Late to the video, but I also like to add that if someone wants to leave out cut content of the Miranda flowers, then you could use the golden order greatsword and Miquella/Radagon ring of light incantation as a way to give the tarnished speed of light feat, since the item description and even the title state that those things are made of light.
If you think about it the fight sums up to a tie because both characters will come back in some way or another
In the framework of extended modal realism, David Lewis argued that all possible worlds exist concretely and independently. However, this raises the question of the nature of the relationships between these possible worlds. How do you envision the metaphysical connections or lack thereof between these worlds? Are there any overarching principles or mechanisms that govern their existence and interactions? Moreover, how might these connections impact the notion of identity across possible worlds, and does the theory provide a satisfactory account of causation and modality within and between these distinct realms of existence?
Aw man, what a shame. When is Nintendo gonna make the Legend of Zelda series more OP featuring conceptual scaling?
it has so much potential
Fr even Mario have multiversal feats
@ Technically so does Link, but yeah, Mario has multiversal feats.
Is the reason that Kratos vs Sekiro & Malenia vs Wolf became outdated was because:_
Tanished having both Space-Time Manipulation & Conceptual Manipulation could allow him to beat Kratos w/o the Flame of Frenzy due to the Kratos not showcasing such resistance except maybe the concept of fear through the concept of hope?
Or is it a one sided stomp and the reason its outdated is because of the additional information
As for Malenia vs Sekiro. The Stomp might have gotten so bad that even a Lowballed Malenia just one shots & blitzes wolf while GOR might kill him based on her presence due to SR?
Nah lol, I don’t think the Tarnished beats Kratos remotely, I also don’t think LOFF is outerversal anymore. The video is outdated because the information and meta’s I used were garbo for both combatants and a lot of scaling has changed for both of them respectively since. Kratos has dealt with CM besides hope and fear plus space-time manip in the Norse saga of games btw, but none of that actually matters if Kratos can just blitz the Tarnished and one-shot.
Yes, Malenia dog walks the entire Sekiro verse. I said it’s outdated for that because the information I presented for Malenia is outdated as well but I will be doing Malenia Vs Madara as a collab soon going over her up to date meta so look forward to that!
@@TheRogueGuy I see, Clears a lot. I cant wait to see the Malenia vs Madara collab.
I didn't see the video yet. But Tarnished No Diff Link. Get Gud
Good video its hard to find good scaling videos about souls characters
Rouge Gonna take another summer break after this one
Nah, I’d Win
Nah, I’d Shatter The Elden Ring 🗣️
thank you for having good elden ring scaling finally
Coming back to this video after 9 months. Are you still around or did you quit YT? If you are still thinking of doing others video on power scaling, ever gonna make another Tarnished focus scaling with the DLC?
Also for curiosity, what do you think about CSAP Tarnished scaling (the one which consider Outer lvl via conceptual manipulation)
You bring up the moon spells, but you neglected to bring up the fact that Link could technically block or absorb the moon attacks w/ the mirror shield. The Mirror Shield inandofitself is not magic in any form, so it would have no initial effect. Then the absorption would take place, and Link could send it right back at the Tarnished, thus removing magic from BOTH of their arsenals as a viable source of damage due to both characters having counters to attacks from the other.
In bare bones vanilla fighting tactics, which is what the fight would come down to at the end, Link has more combat experience to draw from, so he'd evidently win the fight against the Tarnished in this manner.
He already tackles that argument though. He says how the Tarnished has faced opponents that could reflect magic back at them and has faced enemies that can literally mimic them, not to mention the tarnished also has spells and shield that could counter magic just like the mirror shield.
@@Doommarine-sr8y yes so, like the other guy said it would come down to vanilla fighting with no magic
@@sixzero2733 the video also talks about close combat and how it could possibly end, I’m not going to repeat what the UA-camr said, all I’m going to say is rewatch the video because he does bring it up.
Never thought of link vs the tarnished, I just finished a tarnish scale too😅
Really? Can you share the scaling about the Tarnished? Really curious and trying to find new info/scale about him
A UA-camr who doesn’t downplay souls games or Link……SUB!
I truly appreciate that, after seeing the general landscape of ER and Link scaling I felt like had to step in on some Thanos sh*t lol.
Welp a tad late, but can I ask where you got the scans of rennala's arena? I'm somewhat relatively new to elden ring power scaling and cant find it?
If you can somehow join the discord (click the link in my description) I genuinely wouldn’t mind sharing that information bc it’s hard to access and something most of the community doesn’t really know exists.
@TheRogueGuy it looks like the link is invalid/has expired 🤷♂️
Try it now, just put a fresh link in the description 👍🏾
Yep ot worked, thanks a lot 🙏
Question, can't link just seal the tarnished in the master sword?????
On a technical level you could be right, but the Tarnished as a person on their own isn't inherently good or evil. It's the person controlling them that makes the Tarnished scales of morality like that tip from one side or the other. The Master Sword - The Blade of Evil's Bane - only seals if the intended target is actually evil. From the perspective of an outsider, the Tarnished in this fight is on a neutral path, and therefore would not be subject to the sealing magic of the Master Sword.
Not to mention that in order to seal with the Master Sword, it's also required to have the power of the 7 sages, which in this battle Link does not have.
no
We are Forgetting that "The Fierce Deity Mask" and "The Light Bow" exist with this One 🗣️🗣️🔥😂
Glad to see more From Software scaling 🙏🙏🙏
Also, could you possibly do a more “in depth” dive of Bloodborne scaling? I’m tired of people saying that it doesn’t even get to town level or sonic speeds. Plus it would allow me to point people towards this channel.
Bloodborne would scale to complex multy via cosmology and Great Ones. With some bosses having space-time manipulation, reality bending, dimensional travel/ascension/transcendence/creation/destruction. The verse lack a bit in Speed (ftl via laser Attack) but if you use the comics (even if they are not Canon) you can scale it to inaccessible lvl of Speed via the Moon side Lake. Hunter have many weapons, moder/advanced tech, but not really something like Tarnished or Link (like elemental or conceptual weapons, magic or Attack). Hunter is very skilled in taking down Monster (since that's the purpose of Hunters). He can feel and see higher/lower dimensions (via Insight stats lorewise) so he have some kind of Cosmic/dimensional awarness. For AP, he would scale between Universal to complex multy, since Great Ones create whole higher dimensions. If you want, i can send you the Bloodborne cosmology scaling on Discord (to he honest, Bloodborne is mostly carried if not carried only by the Cosmology)
What happened to your other vids
A few responses:
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First off, OoT or LttP link wins, though any other version probably loses.
Link has identical physicals and superior resistances to magic (specifically dark and black magic) courtesy of the Triforce.
The source of the Triforce (the Goddess Hylia) is arguably superior to the Elden Beast, going based off of each game's conceptual lore.
You cannot powerscale the Tarnished (or any Soulsborne MC) by the enemies they defeat, because the enemies in ER can be defeated based on player-specific builds which are not canon to the lore.
The Tarnished is as powerful as the player's build. When debating the Avatars (e.g the Ashen One, the Good Hunter, etc) they must be debated from the perspective of the story and cutscenes.
A common mistake that you Soulsborne debators make is the assumption that the Avatar will have all the items and abilites that exist in the game at the time of the fight -- which is ludacris.
The lore-accurate Tarnished would lose. If this is the composite version (as in, he/she has access to every ability, item and weapon in ER), they would lose to a composite Link.
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Death Battle are basically a collection of normies. They are not to be taken seriously. They do surface-level "research", that is often wrong or intellectually dishonest.
Remember that these are the people who said that Raiden could cut through Adamantium, a substance that cosmic forces could not break, based on a scan of Admantium Beta *(a far less durable version of Adamantium, meant to be mass-produced).*
These people are a joke and their videos/opinions should be considered entertainment--nothing else.
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Ganondorf was "the biggest threat to Hyrule" in that he was successful in essentially destroying it. This is not a power-scalling feat and statements are not quantifiable. This was a subjective statement that you are taking literally for the purposes of your argument.
If I say "Lex Luthor is the biggest threat to the planet", that doesnt magically make him stronger than Superman. It means that the threat he poses overall is bigger, likely because he has deeper pockets and connections than Kal.
Ganondorf is essentially an avatar of Demise, so he is -- quite literally -- inferior to Demise.
Demise also never said that Ganondorf would be stronger, he simply said that -- through Ganondorfs -- his (Demise's) hatred will live on.
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The Tarnished cannot dodge light, I hate when weebs make this stupid argument too btw:
There is a difference between video game-mechanics and actual physics.
In ER, the player is able to dodge "beams of light" because (1) they are reacting to the clearly telegraphed attack *BEFORE* it actually comes down, (2) *the beams in the game are not actually lightspeed,* unless you are suggesting that gamers have "faster than light" reflexes and (3) in combination with the previous two, the beams are in a fixed location that are easy to telegraph and dodge.
To claim a character is FTL, you must provide a legitimate feat of them dodging a confirmed FTL attack (such as a cuscene), not a game mechanic.
This is like when people say "Cloud has Star-Level durability because he survived Supernova", when the entire party can survive/wipe on SN based on a *GAME MECHANIC!*
This also applies to Link deflecting back balls of light that are clearly and obviously not moving at light speed. The same also applies to dodging bullets, in that there is a difference between dodging a bullet and dodging the barrel of a gun (preemptively) before the bullet is fired.
Provide a scan, cutscene or instance *(that is not connected to the player's build or game mechanics)* of the Tarnished dodging light and I will believe that this is possible.
The Tarnished can be tagged by Milenia, the Valliant Gargoyle and other low-level beings; *they are not "faster than light."*
this video went down hill when the author started to measure/talk about speed feats. None of these two characters can go at/beyond lightspeed. Lol
Had me until it was Time instead of Wild, ngl
great vid! do a hunter vs tarnished pls
Tarnished win tbh
Both character’s are close in terms of strength and attack potency, but the tarnished wins since they out hax the hunter in terms of abilities and have better/more concrete speed feats.
Question, marth vs link
I got a new one.
Why Bloodborne Hunter vs One Piece isn't close.
I've had that fight in my head for sometime.
I mean it's not close at all, but tbh, i don't see the connection/reason of the fight
@@riccard1n0 And you see any connection with this fight?
@@AudrionIrks yeah actually, many.
1- Both Franchise are pretty much the opposite yet with many similarities in the genre (dark fantasy and fantasy)
2- Both Franchise have Goty winners
3- Both main protagonist are skilled in many type of combat (from magic, to close, ranged etc..)
4- Both protagonist are quiet warriors with a Deep lore and story
5- Both famous games (Botw and ER) are important open world wich changed the game industry
Please do Mihawk vs the other warlords 🙏🏾
Before even watching, Tarnished slams 🗣
Mazinger Z vs Getter Robo?
It’s crazy that it only takes one random guy to make VSBW mods and their stance on Elden Ring being multi-solar at best look like clowns
How about Sora from kingdom hearts next
Bro you still making videos in the future
Yea 💀, I promise I didn’t forget about y’all bro I just prioritize quality over quantity and the drawback of that is patience
Need some more fromsoftware scaling, this was heat
Do Sonic vs Kratos
I think link takes this the triforce alone makes him invincible he also has infinite magic and he can also turn into fierce deity link who can definitely blitz the tarnished
Tarnished's moon spells counter infinite magic, sealing it away and rendering them more defenseless towards magic abilities. Link's only counter to this is the Mirror Shield.
Matching The Tarnished against child Link was kinda unfair and on top of that you gave him the full power of the Eldin ring. I feel like it would have been more fair if you used adult or teenage link as child link relies more on magic and other outside help rather than personal abilities. But I feel like hero of the wild vs The Tarnished would be extremely close but idk who’d win. Anyway cool video
Yeah or skyward sword link bc full triforce
Dark Souls impregnate Loz botw and give birth to Elden Ring.
you are wrong the tarnished only released the death rune from its seal and does not control death or is immune to it or immortal
You’re like misconstruing what I said. For starters I said death isn’t even on the Elden ring in any of the endings when he ascends to “lord”. I mentioned it nonetheless to explain what wielding/brandishing the Elden Ring in general entails, maybe listen before commenting. Wielding/Brandishing the Elden Ring is control over the concepts that are governed by the runes, this is explicitly stated and I care less about your personal incredulity. He tanked the flames powered by the rune of death at point blank range in a non-interactive cutscene, something the player has no control over meaning the feat canonically happened and you can’t progress in the game at all without triggering that non-interactive cutscene. The Tarnished isn’t immortal? Yea you’re just coping in all honesty.
You can still scale him to destined death by Maliketh for three reason:
1- Maliketh fought and won against the Gloamed eyes Queen, when She had Destined Death
2- Destined Death is still not able to stop grace
3- Blasfemus claw can stop Destined Death
Let's goooooooooooo, the goat with another upload
Bleach is ass btw
Nah Bleach is fire
It’s sad… kakazu solos😔
@@weskintime4177nah… you can’t see the truth😔
W - goro
Sekiro vs Ghost of Tsushima Verse
That's just unfair, Sekiro win no diff
I think Sekiro vs Nioh-verse would make more sense. Ghosts of Tsushima, as much as I like the game (and my bro, Jin Sakai) is way too grounded.
did you seriously use 'it doesn't turn to night time when in the farm/city" as proof the FARM FREEZES TIME AND NOT THAT IT@S JUST A GAME MECHANIC? ARE YOU MENTAL?
Ughh no? Maybe before attempting to sound smart actually listen to the video. Those words never came out my mouth like literally. I never even tried to correlate that in the video….stop projecting your personal incredulity onto me it’s annoying.
@@TheRogueGuyI feel for y’all UA-camrs in the scaling community bruh y’all gotta deal with comments like this that don’t even hold any relevance to the video. It’s just them typing and yapping for negativity for no logical reason in the comments
Link wins
Knowing The Tarnished can manipluate concepts by fighting is overkill. Link stands no chance unless he has the completed triforce.
I love Link I really do but the man gets washed like dirty laundry on a Sunday
how comes when i play elden ring my tarnished doesnt manipulate concepts is mine bugged?
Nah yall we Bodyin link .. lmao sorry we still love you bro
YESSSIRRR
W video
The Link from LTTP Is the most OP of all games and the one with more experience
Link wins this
Na you are wrong
Nice arguments you got there
A laser or beam of light not hitting you doesn’t mean you’re light speed. The shooter just MISSED.
In this context that’s just an argument from ludonarrative dissonance. This kind of logic is atrocious and your using it to dismiss lightspeed scaling bc the constraints of the mechanics of a Miranda flower who happens to shoot beams of light or an enemy that can shoot lasers present it a certain way in the mechanics when the lore straight up says something else.
It’s 2024 going on 2025, understand the limitations of video games for them to be balanced and playable, and to not use these limitations to suit your headcanon. Both of these statues and flowers are legit fodder in the grand scheme of things and this is your rebuttal lmao. It prolly would work against someone who doesn’t know the ins and outs of video game design.
Princess Zelda >>> Ranni
The tarnished eviscerates link
How about Sora from kingdom hearts next