@@stephendevore3902 Bingo. I think that was the reasoning behind having to hit them twice. Part of the logic behind not giving up on the 1st attack would be that it was an event that can't be reproduced easily. Did America have a 3rd bomb ready to go? I think they're overdoing it with the quantity of ships involved in these battles. I did love how there were elements of Star Wars and Star Trek. The Orville is way better than anything Paramount or Disney is making now.
@@jimberg98 America did have a third bomb in the works. The bomb would’ve employed what came to be known as “The Demon Core.” If you ever want to see how atomic weapons go wrong without detonating, do a YT search on it. Creepy stuff.
That's what I love about history, especially naval history. There are some parts are even more interesting and amazing than scifi... WW2, bunch of Germans sitting in a fjord in destroyers ready to ambush a group of Royal Navy destroyers they suspected were coming in after them except... well it's the Royal Navy and HMS Warspite was in the area so instead of a few destroyers they could ambush, the German destroyers were greeted by Battleship HMS Warspite barrelling round the corner with her 15" main guns already pointed right at them. Warspite already had a reputation from the Battle of Jutland in WW1 but a Battleship counter ambushing Destroyers takes the cake. Then there was the time the USN charged so aggressively at the largest battleship ever to be built that they convinced Yamato's entire squadron that they were facing a much larger force than the actual force of Taffy 3 that was the grand total of 3 destroyers, 4 destroyer escorts and 6 escort carriers. One of Yamato's turrets weighs more than the whole of Taffy 3 and Yamato wasn't even alone. She had 3 more battleships, 6 heavy cruisers, 2 light cruisers and 11 destroyers escorting her but it was the Japanese that retreated and failed to stop the landings on the island of Samar. The heroism of Taffy 3 saved the majority of the escort carriers, landing and supply ships and more importantly the thousands of US soldiers being landed. Not having a dig or being a smart arse(not intentionally at least) Just bored and wanted to share what I thought of when I read your comment 🤗
What started off as "Family Guy in Space" has matured into quite the sci-fi franchise with great space battles, excellent character development, and genuinely good story line.
Whoever the composer is my gosh...give him movies...give him awards...let him compose the world...i want him composing me walking to my car in the morning
Kevin Kaska. He's mainly worked as an orchestrator, but he's also a great composer. "The Orville" had a few excellent "old fashioned" composers: John Debney, Joel McNeely, Andrew Cottee, Bruce Broughton and Kaska. It's a shame their style isn't more appreciated by today audiences. Instead we have countless Hanz Zimmer copycats (I love Zimmer's style when it's done by him, not one of his clones)
The Kaylon vessels are perhaps the closest to realistic space fighting I've seen. Not needing to making big arching turns or have any concept of up or down. They spin in any direction is necessary for combat or travel.
MacFarlane might be a humor guy, but he does symbolism really well. The Union initiated the device twice to demonstrate its potency as a war stopping weapon of mass destruction, in order to get the Kaylon to surrender. Pretty much exactly like WW2.
This season has really cemented the fact that this show is the Best Trek we've gotten since TNG and DS9. I liked Voyager and to a lesser degree Enterprise, but this feels like home to me. Bring on more of the Orville!
@@Seantorky3 It sucks big time. That show would be regarded as shit trek if STD and Discard did not lower everyone's expectations down to Earth's mantle beforehand. The Orville is the way.
@@Kanthannic Good analysis. I enjoy SNW and it is probably because STD and "Discard" lol are so bad. Orville #1 and SNW a distant second. I won't be watching Discard and its futile attempt to make things watchable by bringing back all the STNG people. Still will be a big thumbs down sadly.
Gorgeous. Actual storytelling, too. GOT to start watching this show even though I deplore paying for half a dozen streaming services just to get a third of what I want to see.
Orville: We have a weapon that will wipe you out! You've seen it before! We have it and are ready to use it Kaylon: No you don't... attack Orville: Suit yourself Kaylon: Oh I am become error.
It was calculated. He might have been bluffing and the weapon was destroyed. He wasn’t. Then they sent a second wave to see if the weapon had a long cooldown period. It didn’t and could fire again almost immediately. They then realized they were entirely outmatched and agreed to a talk.
@@immortalsofar5314 We're talking about a race ending weapon. Requiring verbal authorization from the commanding officer is a minimum when it comes to security features
I have heard it said many times but I will say it again, the Orville is the new Star Trek. Just like TNG it has evolved and matured in the season 3, I have gotten invested into its characters and connected with them, just like its supposed to be with good movies or shows. However, I have not gotten connected with STD, Picard or any other new Trek. Charly was a good character and a good actor, with proper character growth. She will be sorely missed...
After the ridiculous family guy series and its huge success, this guy flips the switch and does a more serious type of show (less ridiculous comedy) more science and reality stuff. The best part is its a wicked success, looks really great, excellent characters and the development of the main groups as well. I originally thought it would be a show centering around the two types of cultures and planets and their gravity fields, but then they start going to other worlds in a startrek esk ship and they are actually quite interesting ideas for planets, the democratically run world for example, wicked idea. I will be looking for this series to watch, looks really interesting.
Now I understand... the use of the disruptor in this instance is akin to using the atomic bomb on Hiroshima to end World War II. In this case, it was to prevent the war, though.
That's an important bit of propaganda you've been fed. The Japanese were already surrendering. Nukes were always unnecessary and a mind blowingly idiotic use of technology that the elites developed , who want self defeating trump card instead of democracy and diplomacy. The perpetrators of both world wars were elites who became flush with unmerited cash after banking privatization, which enabled them to repurpose all the science that had been discovered after our brief respite from their oppression in the 18th and 19th century, for world wars and capitalist propaganda in the 20th century.
The Kaylon vessels may be the size of Borg Spheres. But the Cube vessels of the Borg may well be a good deal bigger. And perhaps at least 6 times larger. That means that it'll take a lot more than the output of this device to destroy those. And that means more - not less - functionality.
Interesting indeed. Plus a Borg cube could hold tens of thousand drones while given their emphasis on efficiency a Kaylon vessel is likely occupied by hundreds, if not thousand Kaylon AIs.
That's not how the device works. At least my understanding of it, the device piggy backs off of the hivemind aka the backup cloud. All kaylon (besides issac) are connected to the cloud, basically making them immortal. Anytime time they activate the device (which WAS suppose to be an disabling EMP) it is amplified by the hivemind server signal and creates an explosion of kaylon tech. In theory if it worked on the borg, the more borg tech there is the greater the damage, only limited by how far the device's signal can be boardcasted
Space....The Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the Starship Orville. Its continuing mission: To continue the sci-fi adventures inspired by Gene Roddenberry's visions. To seek first contacts with strange new aliens and civilizations. To boldly go where no 'Nu Trek' has gone before!
@@Voltaic_Fire That's probably what the Admiralty would bank upon if the Kaylon decided to double cross the diplomatic team. En routethough fully charged, the device was being used at an obviously low setting. I base this on the fact that at Xeleyah, the device dragged the entire assault fleet. Imagine that same full power blast right at the heart of the Kaylon network it was designed to target.
Im just trying to imagine Picard trying to get along with Mercer. The two are good leaders in their own right but near complete opposite approaches. Though Data and Isaac would definitely have some interesting conversations.
@@RegalChaliceI think Isaac and Data will get along just fine, of course after the former insults Data for being an inferior AI to him ("you need an emotion chip to develop human-like emotions. I don't") 😄 😆 I look forward to a possible Brent Spiner's guest appearance in "The Orville" or at least an extended conversation between Spiner and Mark Jackson in a Comic Con panel 😉
@@RegalChalice A Picard - Mercer meeting would be very interesting. TNG Picard would've likely scorned Mercer's laid back, easy going management of his ship and crew, while a nonagenarian retired Admiral Picard might be more understanding of Mercer's style.
Coming into Kaylon reminds me of the scene in the 1st Star Trek movie where the Enterprise is going through to the center of V'ger, although not nearly as drawn out....thankfully.
@@trueheart5666 That may be, it that doesn't mean they'd last particularly long in the heart of Kaylon territory if the weapon misfired for some reason.
@@Saiyanprince1114 They were also trying to reason with the kaylon, even if the design were recorded with Union Central, as I expect it was,,even without the original designers (Issac and burke) the union could've made more albiet at a slight delay,,,. They were trying to stop attacks by the kaylon that might have been more regular than the show allows us to see. and still trying to reason with them since they all know what the kaylon endured while subjugated. One ship with an admiral with the authority to make binding decisions shows more compassion and honesty than an entire fleet. Yeah, granted the kaylon don't yet understand those terms properly but,,, they aren't stupid by any means and the union knows it.
@@1987MartinT there is no friendly fire with this weapon, in its first encounter and use of the weapon at the beginning of this episode, the Orville was literally surrounded and shielded by other Union ships when they used the weapons, none of them were destroyed in the process while all the Kaylon ships were wiped out.
My ONLY gripe about The Orville is that there is a whole lot of button pushing going on even when in a non battle situation. You would think that some sort of AI would be utilized.
in a previous episode in the first season I think, it showed the helmsman playing ancient computer games like pacman, tetris, and breakout on his console during very low-key moments, and the autopilot was engaged, but he was button pressing to look busy. I think they have even used the main screen on the bridge to watch ancient tv shows and movies when everyone was relaxed.
1:16 would be nice against the Borg would need a lot of those to simultaneously ignite all across space or at the center hive or as a subspace distortion to spearate the Hive
The design of the ship reminds me of that one from the show where the only scene i remember is when the protagonists deliberately plunged the ship into the blackhole and later on got retrieved by a passing ship
How more willing to surrender would you be if the roles were reversed? It's better to show mercy and keep the killing to a minimum. Revenge si never a good thing. Unless you care less about compatriots getting killed, that shows extreme egoism.
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 The Union just showed that they possessed a Deux Ex Machina capable of effortlessly destroying their ships. Perhaps thinking that it was a fluke, they sent a second wave, with identical results. So now the writers embraced this show's version of BSG morality, completely forgetting what the Kaylons' stated mission is. But, apparently the armistice with the Krill was short-lived, and the Union is looking to the Kaylons for help? Alrighty then...
That wasn't the point of the episode, knowing when to use restraint was the lesson and was the entire underlying theme. Now, they have a new ally against the Krill.
@@explorer47422 I don't have Hulu, so I'm a bit behind the curve here. The last time I checked, the Kaylons were doing their Cylon impersonation and attempting to eradicate all biologic life. The Krill and Union formed an uneasy alliance. So...what happened that now the Union needs an alliance with their sworn enemies?
@@spaceflight1019 Spoilers: Union found a way to eradicate all Kaylon as in the video but used it to force peace talks instead. Moclans were kicked out of the Union after abducting and torturing Topa. Moclans formed an alliance with the Krill shifting power of balance and stole the Kaylon killing device. Union teamed up with Kaylon to get it back and in the process the Kaylon saw the error of their ways.
Well the Orville can Travel 10 light years per hour andd after the refit it can go 11.5...its Faster than any of the Enterprise on Star Trek But it's Slower that the Spore Drive
Not exactly But some Elements of EMP is present since if I remember correctly if the device is activated It will Target the Neural synchroniz Matrix of the Kaylon I don't remember if that wat it's called but it's something along the line. If one Kaylon was Hit by it every Kaylon that is connected to it will aso be destroyed
'Oh you have a big ass weapon that can instantly wipe out entire fleets? Well come on down to our capital at the heart of our empire'. See, if I were the Kaylon, I would've waited until the Orville was in range of like 20 ships and all fired at once, as pretty sure they were just using standard shields still, and destroy them before they had a chance to set it off again.
Ahh You forgot that Issac Said that if the device is already Active and if they Kaylon tried anything to disable it will automatically Activated Which means that if They tried to destroy the Orville the device will Also activated and they are in the Heart of Kaylon system. Which mean It will destroy every Kaylon in there since the Neural Synchroniz Matrix is in their home planet.
This show needs to have many more seasons. I can't stomach what had been done with "real" Trek over the past 14 years (and I wasn't too wild about Voyager and Enterprise but at least they were trying) but The Orville picks up where TNG left off, albeit with more humor, but it's well balanced enough to not hurt it. You don't get agendas forced down your throat, Seth understands that entertainment comes first. Paramount could have redeemed themselves with Strange New Worlds but fumbled big time, and we all know how they did that so why bother saying why. The Orville IS Trek. It's what the "real" Trek should be. So it would be a shame if it ends with season 3.
Agreed. I refuse to watch the nulltreks. Even if i do, i pirate. Boycott that shit. However The Orville needs every bit of support. I watched it on Disney+ and will buy merchandise through Hulu. Hope it will get a s4, or better yet, outlive every single last nulltrek show!
Enterprise was damn good in my opinion and Voyager wasn't bad but boy oh boy wtf is Discovery and Picard? I tried hard to like them but I just can't. I liked the reboots but they weren't exactly Star Trek, not enough diplomacy and stuff.
@@Yaapo I mean lower decks in a fun show, it does nothing that nromal trek does but it still carries the same soul that trek does. It takes time to get used to at first but you'll probably like it
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds has done a good job evoking TOS. Orville is doing a good job evoking Next Gen. Star Trek fans finally have something to carry us forward.
@@danieldickson8591 No. SNW barely qualifies as Star Trek. It's only called good because STD and Discard was disgracefully bad. So bad that it has done irreparable damage to the franchise. Alex Kurtzmen and his lot of trolls have been destroying Star Trek since 2009. They literally started copying The Orville in STD because they can't write Star Trek nor do they like Star Trek. Disgraceful shit. The Orville and SNW are not the same. I hope Alex Kurtzmen trek crash and burn in the most spectacular fashion, thanks.
It's kinda funny how the jokes are so infrequent now. Even the cultural shock stuff is less "har de har" and more , "hmmm the Universe is a really big place. I wonder what actual aliens will be like"
Actually they did foreshadow it in a previous episode with Timmins. When they talked about how with the information about their neuro network they can devise counter measures and some sort of weapon to fight them.
Why would you fire on a ship that you just watched vaporize a dozen of your ships in a second? Not very intelligent for an android race. Everytime I hear Seth's voice on the intercom talking to someone, I picture Brian in the captains seat! lol
It's to make sure they can use the weapon more then once. if it can only be used once and burns itself out the second attack would have easily taken the ship and the weapon's remains for study.
@@Headhunter1234256 well, I don't see how that would matter, sensors can detect active charged weapons in most space worlds. I don't feel like arguing about it, we'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm not knocking the show I love it.
I would have thought it is because they needed to see it used in rapid succession, if it could only be used once before requiring significant maintenance then it would be easy to counter.
Every clip has comments filled with people calling this better than current Trek. Being better than current Trek is easy as it has 100% lost it's way. Trek was about showing what we could be without ism's and warring ideologies while new Trek shows a future more screwed up by them than modern day. They forgot the basic Star Trek formula for inspiring people which is show don't tell. Show a better humanity working together without internal conflict. There is a reason that so much is inspired by old Trek in our lives and nothing inspired by new Trek. DS9 was when Trek started falling apart philosophically and the new stuff is simply deconstructing and vilifying that which came before it.
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I like how they didn't initiate until they were hit. The Kaylon got the message after two attempts to stop them. Damn that weapon was insane.
The Kaylon are AI who can make self-assessments, not Borg drones.
@@LGranthamsHeir Totally, I love the Kaylons, I was going to be sad if they got wiped out, but that assessing ability makes them scarier than the borg
In world war 2 even after we detonated our new bombs on Japans cities the Emporer still would not immediatly surrender
@@stephendevore3902 Bingo. I think that was the reasoning behind having to hit them twice. Part of the logic behind not giving up on the 1st attack would be that it was an event that can't be reproduced easily. Did America have a 3rd bomb ready to go?
I think they're overdoing it with the quantity of ships involved in these battles. I did love how there were elements of Star Wars and Star Trek. The Orville is way better than anything Paramount or Disney is making now.
@@jimberg98 America did have a third bomb in the works. The bomb would’ve employed what came to be known as “The Demon Core.” If you ever want to see how atomic weapons go wrong without detonating, do a YT search on it. Creepy stuff.
imagine having to explain this in the history books
"We lost half our home fleet to a single ship"
No no sir, that’s not how it works. It won’t even be in the history books
i doubt the kaylon see any logic between revising history like we do
That's what I love about history, especially naval history. There are some parts are even more interesting and amazing than scifi...
WW2, bunch of Germans sitting in a fjord in destroyers ready to ambush a group of Royal Navy destroyers they suspected were coming in after them except... well it's the Royal Navy and HMS Warspite was in the area so instead of a few destroyers they could ambush, the German destroyers were greeted by Battleship HMS Warspite barrelling round the corner with her 15" main guns already pointed right at them. Warspite already had a reputation from the Battle of Jutland in WW1 but a Battleship counter ambushing Destroyers takes the cake.
Then there was the time the USN charged so aggressively at the largest battleship ever to be built that they convinced Yamato's entire squadron that they were facing a much larger force than the actual force of Taffy 3 that was the grand total of 3 destroyers, 4 destroyer escorts and 6 escort carriers. One of Yamato's turrets weighs more than the whole of Taffy 3 and Yamato wasn't even alone. She had 3 more battleships, 6 heavy cruisers, 2 light cruisers and 11 destroyers escorting her but it was the Japanese that retreated and failed to stop the landings on the island of Samar. The heroism of Taffy 3 saved the majority of the escort carriers, landing and supply ships and more importantly the thousands of US soldiers being landed.
Not having a dig or being a smart arse(not intentionally at least) Just bored and wanted to share what I thought of when I read your comment 🤗
@@MoA-Reload... That's the sort of story that inspires.
@@MoA-Reload... I love Warspite, if not the single most badass Warship this planet has ever seen, then she's a damn close second lol
What started off as "Family Guy in Space" has matured into quite the sci-fi franchise with great space battles, excellent character development, and genuinely good story line.
No
You're delusional or your 13
You're delusional or you're 13
@aDBo'Ch 1 No.
@aDBo'Ch 1 No
Whoever the composer is my gosh...give him movies...give him awards...let him compose the world...i want him composing me walking to my car in the morning
I mean you not lying he did a great job
Kevin Kaska. He's mainly worked as an orchestrator, but he's also a great composer. "The Orville" had a few excellent "old fashioned" composers: John Debney, Joel McNeely, Andrew Cottee, Bruce Broughton and Kaska. It's a shame their style isn't more appreciated by today audiences. Instead we have countless Hanz Zimmer copycats (I love Zimmer's style when it's done by him, not one of his clones)
The Kaylon vessels are perhaps the closest to realistic space fighting I've seen. Not needing to making big arching turns or have any concept of up or down. They spin in any direction is necessary for combat or travel.
true. and sicne they are "robots" disorientation from sudden stops, or chaning direcion wouldnt affect them.
Not really. And tell me you didnt watch Galactica Reimagined or Foundation.
You just described borg vessels
@@jeibal02 The Expanse
Yeah The Expanse blows everything else away in terms of realistic space combat.
MacFarlane might be a humor guy, but he does symbolism really well.
The Union initiated the device twice to demonstrate its potency as a war stopping weapon of mass destruction, in order to get the Kaylon to surrender. Pretty much exactly like WW2.
Technically 3 times.
I thought hte exact same thing
Just for once I want to hear Ed mercer say “giggity”
Even Quagmire wouldn't have said it during this scene.
This season has really cemented the fact that this show is the Best Trek we've gotten since TNG and DS9. I liked Voyager and to a lesser degree Enterprise, but this feels like home to me. Bring on more of the Orville!
I really like strange new worlds.
@@Seantorky3 It sucks big time. That show would be regarded as shit trek if STD and Discard did not lower everyone's expectations down to Earth's mantle beforehand. The Orville is the way.
@@Kanthannic Good analysis. I enjoy SNW and it is probably because STD and "Discard" lol are so bad. Orville #1 and SNW a distant second. I won't be watching Discard and its futile attempt to make things watchable by bringing back all the STNG people. Still will be a big thumbs down sadly.
It's not nearly as good as Lower Decks.
It’s not the best trek show, because it’s NOT FUCKING STAR TREK
Gorgeous. Actual storytelling, too. GOT to start watching this show even though I deplore paying for half a dozen streaming services just to get a third of what I want to see.
Free on SBS
My friend piracy is the solution to your problem
Orville: We have a weapon that will wipe you out! You've seen it before! We have it and are ready to use it
Kaylon: No you don't... attack
Orville: Suit yourself
Kaylon: Oh I am become error.
The Corbomite Maneuver...
It was calculated. He might have been bluffing and the weapon was destroyed. He wasn’t. Then they sent a second wave to see if the weapon had a long cooldown period. It didn’t and could fire again almost immediately. They then realized they were entirely outmatched and agreed to a talk.
...but we haven't actually integrated it into our tactical controls so we have to ask for it to be fired verbally.
That offends my engineering nature!
@@immortalsofar5314 We're talking about a race ending weapon. Requiring verbal authorization from the commanding officer is a minimum when it comes to security features
Orville must have one of the highest kill counts in the galaxy, and she’s the equivalent of a destroyer escort.
Reminds me of USS Samuel B Roberts, both have the spirit animals of Honey Badgers
Orville really suprised me, I was not sure with seth but dude he did it justice his peeps are solid in my book.
Kaylon: We gon kill y'all biologicals.
Orville: Ctrl+Alt+Del
Kaylon: Never mind, you have a nice day, sir.
Underrated comment lol
Very glad that they made a third season and hoping for more
I have heard it said many times but I will say it again, the Orville is the new Star Trek. Just like TNG it has evolved and matured in the season 3, I have gotten invested into its characters and connected with them, just like its supposed to be with good movies or shows. However, I have not gotten connected with STD, Picard or any other new Trek. Charly was a good character and a good actor, with proper character growth. She will be sorely missed...
Agreed, I am hooked on this show.
Took me a minute to realize “STD” was for Star Trek Discovery and not the other thing 😅
Though from what I’ve seen and heard, it’s not far off.
Since Charly is some kind of 4th dimension creature, I wouldn't be surprised if we will see her again somehow.
*DSC
This has been from the first episode far superior to TNG and more like DS9
After the ridiculous family guy series and its huge success, this guy flips the switch and does a more serious type of show (less ridiculous comedy) more science and reality stuff. The best part is its a wicked success, looks really great, excellent characters and the development of the main groups as well. I originally thought it would be a show centering around the two types of cultures and planets and their gravity fields, but then they start going to other worlds in a startrek esk ship and they are actually quite interesting ideas for planets, the democratically run world for example, wicked idea. I will be looking for this series to watch, looks really interesting.
Awesome music and visuals.
Last time they landed the Kaylon were able to shut down the Orville's energy.
Now I understand... the use of the disruptor in this instance is akin to using the atomic bomb on Hiroshima to end World War II. In this case, it was to prevent the war, though.
I suppose, but the target the disruptor was used on were on military ships.
That's an important bit of propaganda you've been fed. The Japanese were already surrendering. Nukes were always unnecessary and a mind blowingly idiotic use of technology that the elites developed , who want self defeating trump card instead of democracy and diplomacy. The perpetrators of both world wars were elites who became flush with unmerited cash after banking privatization, which enabled them to repurpose all the science that had been discovered after our brief respite from their oppression in the 18th and 19th century, for world wars and capitalist propaganda in the 20th century.
I haven't really watched the Orville, but the CGI work is exceptional for a TV show!🤗🤗🤗 The Kaylon City is remarkably detailed!
Reminds me of voyager when future Janeway gave voyager actual plot armour
The Kaylon vessels may be the size of Borg Spheres. But the Cube vessels of the Borg may well be a good deal bigger. And perhaps at least 6 times larger. That means that it'll take a lot more than the output of this device to destroy those. And that means more - not less - functionality.
Interesting indeed. Plus a Borg cube could hold tens of thousand drones while given their emphasis on efficiency a Kaylon vessel is likely occupied by hundreds, if not thousand Kaylon AIs.
The Kaylon ships are tiny compared to the spheres. The smaller ships that detach only hold 3
Well then, the Planetary Union is definitely screwed when they cross into another fictional universe to fight the Borg.
@@badgercdlyons They have actually crossed into a 2d universe so that is actually a possibility.
That's not how the device works.
At least my understanding of it, the device piggy backs off of the hivemind aka the backup cloud.
All kaylon (besides issac) are connected to the cloud, basically making them immortal.
Anytime time they activate the device (which WAS suppose to be an disabling EMP) it is amplified by the hivemind server signal and creates an explosion of kaylon tech.
In theory if it worked on the borg, the more borg tech there is the greater the damage, only limited by how far the device's signal can be boardcasted
It was a great climax to the third season, overall all three seasons have been brilliant 🙂
This episode hit hard....
"The needs of the many outweights the needs of the few...or of one!!" #RIPCharly 😢
I'm really going miss Charly Burke.
Yeah it did
Just like my stepdad
Should have brought the Waverider with you, Admiral.
Sounds like the Stargate Asgard theme when the Orville gets a clear view of the city...
indeed int doesss
Excellent brass work from the soundtrack
The Kalon got the Ja’loja kicked out of them
Kaylon*
I always liked how the weapon system looked like the AI robot thing from the original series that tried to take over the enterprise.
Space....The Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the Starship Orville. Its continuing mission: To continue the sci-fi adventures inspired by Gene Roddenberry's visions. To seek first contacts with strange new aliens and civilizations. To boldly go where no 'Nu Trek' has gone before!
Or...
"To boldly go where Dark Trek refuses to go. Ever!"
@@tuchehstone 😄😃😆
anyone else notice the independence day theme mixed into the music?
let´s park the ship right down there,because we got no shuttles
Except the shuttle would not be armed with the weapon.
Sometimes in diplomacy you have to show a little trust. Though it helps if that trust is backed with a really devastating weapon.
@@danielhaire6677 Imagine the devastation it would reap if fired from the surface.
@@Voltaic_Fire That's probably what the Admiralty would bank upon if the Kaylon decided to double cross the diplomatic team. En routethough fully charged, the device was being used at an obviously low setting. I base this on the fact that at Xeleyah, the device dragged the entire assault fleet. Imagine that same full power blast right at the heart of the Kaylon network it was designed to target.
The Kaylon meets its Wolf 359 Battle..
Just imagine if Starfleet has invented this superweapon. They would've squashed the entire Borg army in one day with one squeeze of a button 😄😊
Im just trying to imagine Picard trying to get along with Mercer. The two are good leaders in their own right but near complete opposite approaches. Though Data and Isaac would definitely have some interesting conversations.
@@RegalChaliceI think Isaac and Data will get along just fine, of course after the former insults Data for being an inferior AI to him ("you need an emotion chip to develop human-like emotions. I don't") 😄 😆
I look forward to a possible Brent Spiner's guest appearance in "The Orville" or at least an extended conversation between Spiner and Mark Jackson in a Comic Con panel 😉
@@RegalChalice A Picard - Mercer meeting would be very interesting. TNG Picard would've likely scorned Mercer's laid back, easy going management of his ship and crew, while a nonagenarian retired Admiral Picard might be more understanding of Mercer's style.
They would have adapted eventually. The Borg always do.
@@LGranthamsHeir Regardless, the two of them are either gonna be delighted or horrified at how well they work together during an emegency
Coming into Kaylon reminds me of the scene in the 1st Star Trek movie where the Enterprise is going through to the center of V'ger, although not nearly as drawn out....thankfully.
I know there was only one weapon, but I still think it was really stupid for the Orville to go alone.
Among all the Union's ship, The Orville has the most upgraded deflectors because of Isaac.
@@trueheart5666 That may be, it that doesn't mean they'd last particularly long in the heart of Kaylon territory if the weapon misfired for some reason.
@@Saiyanprince1114 They were also trying to reason with the kaylon, even if the design were recorded with Union Central, as I expect it was,,even without the original designers (Issac and burke) the union could've made more albiet at a slight delay,,,. They were trying to stop attacks by the kaylon that might have been more regular than the show allows us to see. and still trying to reason with them since they all know what the kaylon endured while subjugated. One ship with an admiral with the authority to make binding decisions shows more compassion and honesty than an entire fleet. Yeah, granted the kaylon don't yet understand those terms properly but,,, they aren't stupid by any means and the union knows it.
@@captscarlet8793 Furthermore, They may have sent only one ship to avoid friendly fire. The blast from that weapon is insane.
@@1987MartinT there is no friendly fire with this weapon, in its first encounter and use of the weapon at the beginning of this episode, the Orville was literally surrounded and shielded by other Union ships when they used the weapons, none of them were destroyed in the process while all the Kaylon ships were wiped out.
Reminds me of when Voyager got the deployable ablative armor.
It is hilarious how this is still a better star trek even than the actual star trek shows that are out now. This includes discovery and picard
The new season of picard is better than. This
Damn I miss this show.
My ONLY gripe about The Orville is that there is a whole lot of button pushing going on even when in a non battle situation. You would think that some sort of AI would be utilized.
Sure, an AI hooked into the networked control systems throughout the ship. It's not like a hostile machine intelligence could hack into it 🤔😉
in a previous episode in the first season I think, it showed the helmsman playing ancient computer games like pacman, tetris, and breakout on his console during very low-key moments, and the autopilot was engaged, but he was button pressing to look busy. I think they have even used the main screen on the bridge to watch ancient tv shows and movies when everyone was relaxed.
It was about time that the Kaylons got a taste of their own medicine!
They put a hell of a lot of faith in that weapon continuing to function properly and the ship surviving long enough to make that work.
Orville's weapon was so strong that it gave Kaylon an unexplained feeling of chills in their spine, considering that Kaylon doesnt have both
1:16 would be nice against the Borg would need a lot of those to simultaneously ignite all across space or at the center hive or as a subspace distortion to spearate the Hive
The design of the ship reminds me of that one from the show where the only scene i remember is when the protagonists deliberately plunged the ship into the blackhole and later on got retrieved by a passing ship
That would be Andromeda
As the ship is docking, the music reminds me of Independence Day when the motherships were clearing out of the clouds
I think Seth MacFarlan still kept the Tactical Alert which was used in the Star Trek: Enterprise NX-O1 to which he'd starred into...
Nice action. Where's the rest of it?
And thank you
Kaylon: Genocide
Orville: OK. Wanna go at it?
Everyone remember where we parked!
That emp device is freaking deadly.
The Orville is the true successor to Star Trek.
So wouldn’t this anti Kaylon weapon have killed Isaac since he was onboard? Or does the weapon not work like that?
Apparently, the Kaylons are slow learners. Mercer should have destroyed the rest of their fleet.
How more willing to surrender would you be if the roles were reversed? It's better to show mercy and keep the killing to a minimum. Revenge si never a good thing. Unless you care less about compatriots getting killed, that shows extreme egoism.
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 The Union just showed that they possessed a Deux Ex Machina capable of effortlessly destroying their ships. Perhaps thinking that it was a fluke, they sent a second wave, with identical results.
So now the writers embraced this show's version of BSG morality, completely forgetting what the Kaylons' stated mission is.
But, apparently the armistice with the Krill was short-lived, and the Union is looking to the Kaylons for help? Alrighty then...
That wasn't the point of the episode, knowing when to use restraint was the lesson and was the entire underlying theme. Now, they have a new ally against the Krill.
@@explorer47422 I don't have Hulu, so I'm a bit behind the curve here. The last time I checked, the Kaylons were doing their Cylon impersonation and attempting to eradicate all biologic life.
The Krill and Union formed an uneasy alliance.
So...what happened that now the Union needs an alliance with their sworn enemies?
@@spaceflight1019 Spoilers: Union found a way to eradicate all Kaylon as in the video but used it to force peace talks instead. Moclans were kicked out of the Union after abducting and torturing Topa. Moclans formed an alliance with the Krill shifting power of balance and stole the Kaylon killing device. Union teamed up with Kaylon to get it back and in the process the Kaylon saw the error of their ways.
🤔🤷🏻♂️🤓 Ever wondered how fast the Quantum Drive is compared to Star Trek's Warp Drive?
Well the Orville can Travel 10 light years per hour andd after the refit it can go 11.5...its Faster than any of the Enterprise on Star Trek But it's Slower that the Spore Drive
Aeronáutica, inteligência secreta, quinta etapa. Avião de guerra poderoso alien quinta etapa. Velocidade.
3:08 the music sounds like the Asgard Music theme of Stargate. The fifth race... 🤭
whats the song called?
@@JackalJBlack No idea, just search on YT, "Stargate SG-1 Asgard the fifth race song".
01:06 Nomad took steroids!!!
That weapon is cutting the Khylons to ribbons or is it rivets.
So this weapon is some kind of big-ass EMP generator, aye?
Not exactly But some Elements of EMP is present since if I remember correctly if the device is activated It will Target the Neural synchroniz Matrix of the Kaylon I don't remember if that wat it's called but it's something along the line. If one Kaylon was Hit by it every Kaylon that is connected to it will aso be destroyed
"This show, I like it....
Bring me ANOTHER!!!"
-Thor
probably...
Pure sci-fi awesomeness!!! Its probably better Seth did his own thing instead of being bounded by star trek rules…
at 2:00 i would have said, "The hell with it, fire again."
0:45 thats the same guy that acted in the movie Titanic
Yeah, he's one of those guys who has been in a ton of stuff.
IT'S LIKE THE BFG FROM DOOM!
Take us down, I've got a logic bomb brewing in my bowels!
'Oh you have a big ass weapon that can instantly wipe out entire fleets? Well come on down to our capital at the heart of our empire'. See, if I were the Kaylon, I would've waited until the Orville was in range of like 20 ships and all fired at once, as pretty sure they were just using standard shields still, and destroy them before they had a chance to set it off again.
Ahh You forgot that Issac Said that if the device is already Active and if they Kaylon tried anything to disable it will automatically Activated Which means that if They tried to destroy the Orville the device will Also activated and they are in the Heart of Kaylon system. Which mean It will destroy every Kaylon in there since the Neural Synchroniz Matrix is in their home planet.
I didn't see this series, but it looks very Star Trek like
I like to think they attacked twice. Once to check if bluffing. Second to see if it could only be used once.
Petter Griffen went to space, 🤣🤣🤣
Wasn't the admiral also Kelly's dad?
Friends with her father.
i love that show
2:50 is star wars the clone wars
Sometimes you have to double tap to get the message across.
Their red alert is a bit much. I’d find it hard to concentrate on your task with every surface of the ship flashing different sequences of red.
the background music vives reminds me star wars
I'm confused, isn't this a comedy sci-fi series? Where is the comedy?
Star Treck 2.0?
😅 The Kaylons are the Asurans/Replicators of that universe!
This show needs to have many more seasons. I can't stomach what had been done with "real" Trek over the past 14 years (and I wasn't too wild about Voyager and Enterprise but at least they were trying) but The Orville picks up where TNG left off, albeit with more humor, but it's well balanced enough to not hurt it. You don't get agendas forced down your throat, Seth understands that entertainment comes first. Paramount could have redeemed themselves with Strange New Worlds but fumbled big time, and we all know how they did that so why bother saying why. The Orville IS Trek. It's what the "real" Trek should be. So it would be a shame if it ends with season 3.
Agreed. I refuse to watch the nulltreks. Even if i do, i pirate. Boycott that shit.
However The Orville needs every bit of support. I watched it on Disney+ and will buy merchandise through Hulu. Hope it will get a s4, or better yet, outlive every single last nulltrek show!
Enterprise was damn good in my opinion and Voyager wasn't bad but boy oh boy wtf is Discovery and Picard? I tried hard to like them but I just can't. I liked the reboots but they weren't exactly Star Trek, not enough diplomacy and stuff.
@@Yaapo I mean lower decks in a fun show, it does nothing that nromal trek does but it still carries the same soul that trek does. It takes time to get used to at first but you'll probably like it
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds has done a good job evoking TOS. Orville is doing a good job evoking Next Gen. Star Trek fans finally have something to carry us forward.
@@danieldickson8591 No. SNW barely qualifies as Star Trek. It's only called good because STD and Discard was disgracefully bad. So bad that it has done irreparable damage to the franchise. Alex Kurtzmen and his lot of trolls have been destroying Star Trek since 2009. They literally started copying The Orville in STD because they can't write Star Trek nor do they like Star Trek. Disgraceful shit. The Orville and SNW are not the same. I hope Alex Kurtzmen trek crash and burn in the most spectacular fashion, thanks.
DEVICE LIKE A SONAR IN THA OCEAN.
What fictional universe?
Symbolically, this is the A-bombing of Nagasaki (second use of the weapon) and the USS Missouri sailing into Tokyo Bay all wrapped up in one.
RW:ive heard of a EMP Burst but this is ridiculous 😁
when your special effects look like in a videogame ...
Giggity!
2/3 the cast of family guy vs giant robotic fleet
It's kinda funny how the jokes are so infrequent now. Even the cultural shock stuff is less "har de har" and more , "hmmm the Universe is a really big place. I wonder what actual aliens will be like"
Its Brian from family guy!
Great video.
Didn't think acouple of flouro blue circle could hold a starship on a planet though
Well, there were actually four flouro blue circles. 😉
I miss Charly.
the only thing i didnt like about this episode is how this weapon sort of came out of no where.
Actually they did foreshadow it in a previous episode with Timmins. When they talked about how with the information about their neuro network they can devise counter measures and some sort of weapon to fight them.
The story Seth wanted to tell was less about the development of the weapon and more about how it was used
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Humans will never reach this development. Doomsday is near
Why would you fire on a ship that you just watched vaporize a dozen of your ships in a second? Not very intelligent for an android race. Everytime I hear Seth's voice on the intercom talking to someone, I picture Brian in the captains seat! lol
It's to make sure they can use the weapon more then once. if it can only be used once and burns itself out the second attack would have easily taken the ship and the weapon's remains for study.
@@Headhunter1234256 I'm guessing they have sensors for that.
@@Steve.Cutler are the sensors able to pick up something that small in the heart of the engine room on a ship ready for battle?
@@Headhunter1234256 well, I don't see how that would matter, sensors can detect active charged weapons in most space worlds. I don't feel like arguing about it, we'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm not knocking the show I love it.
I would have thought it is because they needed to see it used in rapid succession, if it could only be used once before requiring significant maintenance then it would be easy to counter.
Wow
Every clip has comments filled with people calling this better than current Trek. Being better than current Trek is easy as it has 100% lost it's way.
Trek was about showing what we could be without ism's and warring ideologies while new Trek shows a future more screwed up by them than modern day.
They forgot the basic Star Trek formula for inspiring people which is show don't tell. Show a better humanity working together without internal conflict.
There is a reason that so much is inspired by old Trek in our lives and nothing inspired by new Trek.
DS9 was when Trek started falling apart philosophically and the new stuff is simply deconstructing and vilifying that which came before it.
Orville vs Johnny Jimenea starships war.
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Good in space chemistey