Scamming is different than cheating. He didnt cheat in playing the game. He was the house. And did what he want with the money. No one expected fulltilt to shutdown. He was the bank
Cheating at poker? You bet it is out there. I used to play at bars in Louisiana. It was legal as long as the house did not have a rake. (Basically, if you won a hand, you were expected to tip the dealer $1-$5 depending on the pot size. If you did not, when you came back to play the next time, the empty seats would always be "reserved" for another player, and you could not sit in anymore) I was stuck one night for about $800, and I caught a player with a couple of cards up his sleeve. He was good, but I felt something was not right and finally caught a glimpse. I grabbed his arm and let everyone see it. The bar owner refunded all my losses for the night, and I never played there again. I saw him in another bar that I went to play at about a week later, and announced to everyone he was caught cheating a few days ago. No one got up, and one woman proclaimed they knew he was a card sharp, but let him play anyway....That made me think they were all likely cheats as well (or just real degenerates?)
I've seen this may times & always cry at the end LoL I will always remember the first time I saw WPT on tv, as well as the day I logged into Full Tilt & saw the notice from the FBI. It was a good run while it lasted.
Just one modification there: I don't believe Annie Duke was part of the Ponzi scheme that Lederer and Ferguson committed. Annie Duke was never mentioned in the lawsuit. Her brother basically hurt the family legacy.
Rounders should have been made for $2 million (23 million would sound pretty good on that) and Matt Damon should have done it for 40% of profits after double break even. Instead, he got paid $600k and the movie was made for $12m (expected loss would be $500k, probably made that up by now.)
Moneymaker comment about being the best player at the table against Farha was laughable. Everyone feels like the best player when they run that hot. But what else had he won in the 20 years since?
He specifically says "in that moment, at that table" meaning he isn't talking about the years since. That day he was best. What evidence do you have to dispute that?
Very harsh to say about all his cash and family, it's a deceptive comment, and technically not 100% true. More on that below. But first, I offer one sort of clarification to your statement: In this documentary, Moneymaker admitted he was a drunk and a degen before he won the 2003 WSOP. There's a 2018 article in ESPN. com about him, and a 2013 article about him in the Las Vegas Review Journal. I encourage you to read these articles to learn more about all his life, not just for the couple years after he won the WSOP. about him. Also, some necessary additions to your comment: Your comment only applies from after the won the WSOP in 2003 until 2005. Yes, it's sad that, in 2004, he and his then-wife divorced, having one child. His ex-wife didn't like that Moneymaker was traveling a ton as part of his sponsorship with PokerStars. However, in 2005, his life changed for the better. Chris remarried during that year, and currently has 3 children with his current wife. And he does just fine with money. He is sponsored by America's Cardroom, and he runs the MoneyMaker Tour. And the LV Review Journal states: "Moneymaker also works to support efforts to increase female participation in poker, along with regulated online poker in the U.S. Nevada is one of six states, along with Delaware, Michigan, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and West Virginia, to have legalized online poker." Per the ESPN article, regarding his traveling for poker: "But for the last decade or so [going back to 2008], I just go back to my hotel room. I quit smoking and now rarely drink, maybe a little sometimes socially. I basically go back to my hotel room to either watch Netflix, watch a poker video or play Fortnite with my son and then go to bed." Unfortunately, some marriages, even when having children, don't work out. But it sounds like Chris has a pretty good life now. It's not really cool to disparage the guy and only talk about his life pre-2005. Why not mention stuff about his life after 2005?
@@harold7792 he’s a public figure so I can judge how I wish. Along with its a fact before the WSOP he had a family and a life now he’s a bum. So yes the WSOP ruined his life. What’s $2.5 million when you’re a degenerate!
It's a fine game. Until someone came up with the idea of skills being more important than luck. Anybody can beat Phil Ivy at the table - nobody beats a "lucky" bot.
"The Heroes of Poker don't cheat" Howard Lederer
So fitting coming from Howard after the Full Tilt debacle
"Winners don't cheat."
Immortal comment from Howard scammer Lederer. That definitely didn't age well.
Players don’t cheat with their own money. Full tilt theft
Scamming is different than cheating. He didnt cheat in playing the game. He was the house. And did what he want with the money. No one expected fulltilt to shutdown. He was the bank
@@jonl688 Nice post genius. House can't "do what they want" with player depo money.
Anything else Einstein ?
@@rempseaheinamies9414Every bank does the same thing. Cheating at the game and scamming people of their money are different things Einstein
@@jonl688 it is cheating other players out of their money, that is still cheating.
"Things don't grow that don't have growabilitiness to them" Plil Laak
Howard I don't cheat Lederer 😂
Great Documentary about the Poker Industry and the Highs and Lows.
Live Poker is still alive and well in 2024.
I now.would like 2 play😮
2 words... "T....V"
um, those are actually letters
....for, one word.....
?? 🤣
I actually bought this DVD recently because I couldn’t find it anywhere online anymore. Thank you for the upload!
Growabilityness
Fabulous movie. I do love everything about POKER.
Chris Ferguson he is a liar should not even show his face Howard doesn’t anymore
GG Poker cheating site! Dont pay out!
Cheating at poker? You bet it is out there.
I used to play at bars in Louisiana. It was legal as long as the house did not have a rake. (Basically, if you won a hand, you were expected to tip the dealer $1-$5 depending on the pot size. If you did not, when you came back to play the next time, the empty seats would always be "reserved" for another player, and you could not sit in anymore)
I was stuck one night for about $800, and I caught a player with a couple of cards up his sleeve. He was good, but I felt something was not right and finally caught a glimpse. I grabbed his arm and let everyone see it. The bar owner refunded all my losses for the night, and I never played there again.
I saw him in another bar that I went to play at about a week later, and announced to everyone he was caught cheating a few days ago. No one got up, and one woman proclaimed they knew he was a card sharp, but let him play anyway....That made me think they were all likely cheats as well (or just real degenerates?)
“Two Words” proceeds to say two letters describing something that’s one word
You call.... It's over...baby...!
One of the best documentaries on poker!
I've seen this may times & always cry at the end LoL I will always remember the first time I saw WPT on tv, as well as the day I logged into Full Tilt & saw the notice from the FBI. It was a good run while it lasted.
Amazing movie!
He makes a comment that 50k was more money than God has, apparently he doesn't know who God is. My God has cattle on a thousand hills
Brilliant documentary/movie on poker
Rounders is the best poker movie “ check, check, check, pat da mon hiss money” 🎉
Yea Howard don't cheat lololol
Why are they blaming the government and not Howard lederer, Ferguson and Duke?
Just one modification there: I don't believe Annie Duke was part of the Ponzi scheme that Lederer and Ferguson committed. Annie Duke was never mentioned in the lawsuit.
Her brother basically hurt the family legacy.
Thanks for this. It had been ages since I watched it.
Jesus makes me sick
Definition of irony : 34:47
What movie scene is that where the high schoolers say "we've been playing poker for 2 years now?
Can't buy me love 1987
I know where I’m going next Christmas as an ex Baptist!
Thank you for this. Was an excellent watch.
Rounders should have been made for $2 million (23 million would sound pretty good on that) and Matt Damon should have done it for 40% of profits after double break even. Instead, he got paid $600k and the movie was made for $12m (expected loss would be $500k, probably made that up by now.)
You have no chance of getting rich playing poker. This is all hot air and delusion
"The American dream isn't dead." Well that aged poorly
Oh, brother... rolling my eyes.
I’m jealous all these people play poker with their families & friends
I only get to play poker once a year with my friends - on my birthday
p͎r͎o͎m͎o͎s͎m͎ 🌹
🎉49:02
You call....it's over, baby.......!
According to IMDB this movie is from 2009, in case you're wondering why it feels a bit dated.
Moneymaker comment about being the best player at the table against Farha was laughable. Everyone feels like the best player when they run that hot. But what else had he won in the 20 years since?
It's funny during the Run It Back interview about his 2003 run, he admits now how amateurish he was back then.
And now he’s a pro on ACR….. that’s like saying I got a free toy in my happy meal.
2mil in winnings since 2003
And now he doesn't think he has a BOT problem with ACR haaaaaHAAAAhaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha@@ralphkotwica6184
He specifically says "in that moment, at that table" meaning he isn't talking about the years since. That day he was best. What evidence do you have to dispute that?
Funny comment by Phil !
34:48 The irony
Moneymaker ruined his life when he won the WSOP. His gambling addiction made him lose all his cash and family.
Very harsh to say about all his cash and family, it's a deceptive comment, and technically not 100% true. More on that below. But first, I offer one sort of clarification to your statement: In this documentary, Moneymaker admitted he was a drunk and a degen before he won the 2003 WSOP.
There's a 2018 article in ESPN. com about him, and a 2013 article about him in the Las Vegas Review Journal. I encourage you to read these articles to learn more about all his life, not just for the couple years after he won the WSOP. about him.
Also, some necessary additions to your comment: Your comment only applies from after the won the WSOP in 2003 until 2005. Yes, it's sad that, in 2004, he and his then-wife divorced, having one child. His ex-wife didn't like that Moneymaker was traveling a ton as part of his sponsorship with PokerStars.
However, in 2005, his life changed for the better. Chris remarried during that year, and currently has 3 children with his current wife. And he does just fine with money. He is sponsored by America's Cardroom, and he runs the MoneyMaker Tour. And the LV Review Journal states: "Moneymaker also works to support efforts to increase female participation in poker, along with regulated online poker in the U.S. Nevada is one of six states, along with Delaware, Michigan, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and West Virginia, to have legalized online poker."
Per the ESPN article, regarding his traveling for poker: "But for the last decade or so [going back to 2008], I just go back to my hotel room. I quit smoking and now rarely drink, maybe a little sometimes socially. I basically go back to my hotel room to either watch Netflix, watch a poker video or play Fortnite with my son and then go to bed."
Unfortunately, some marriages, even when having children, don't work out. But it sounds like Chris has a pretty good life now.
It's not really cool to disparage the guy and only talk about his life pre-2005. Why not mention stuff about his life after 2005?
@@harold7792 he’s a public figure so I can judge how I wish. Along with its a fact before the WSOP he had a family and a life now he’s a bum. So yes the WSOP ruined his life. What’s $2.5 million when you’re a degenerate!
tell him, let him know
P❤️ker
Jets always lose.
They always put stuey in a spot light about his drug use while they praise Amarillo slim Preston and he was a registered sex offender 🤔
Hadn't heard that, sounds awful
The good ol days when moneymaker only had 2 chins.
If I brought the beer and all you brought was chips and dip I’d be pretty pissed 🤣
Lesson: Pay the government their rake too.
It's a fine game. Until someone came up with the idea of skills being more important than luck. Anybody can beat Phil Ivy at the table - nobody beats a "lucky" bot.