I don't even play metal anymore nor am I looking for metal demos, but the tone on this video is really solid, clear, articulate. I'm sticking around to watch this one!
Jason, I'm always stoked when you upload. These Frankhouser droughts are like like crossing the Mohave Desert without a canteen, damnit. Fantasy colab: you and Hetfield do an album together. Yeah, I know it's totally unrealistic. But James is an old-school rhythm god, and I think he would benefit from vibing with a player who can keep pace with him, spur him on, challenge him -specifically in HIS wheelhouse -the Right-Hand-intensive, almighty RIFF. God save the Riff.
How can I have been watching metal guitar UA-cam for years and just now find this channel!!!? Ordered Badlander 25 yesterday and this confirmed my choice: SICK!!!!
Good call with the Grid Slammer. It's my favorite simple TS style pedal I've ever used, especially since it doesn't neuter the low end. I like that extra saturation. I use Direwolf for all the better control.
Very nice I'm looking at buying one of these and pretty much convinced me this is the amp I love how you played but you showed the amp not your not you lot of people make it about themselves you made it about the product and that's why we're here thank you
Just discovered your channel… Nice videos man! Killer recording setup and tone. I stopped doing guitar videos because I suck at recording and playing (according to the few internet people that actually watched my videos 😂), but I also have one of the Mesa Badlander 100 amps, and it’s amazing! It reminds a lot of the old Rev G Dual Rec, but tighter. And if you switch it over to Variac mode instead of Bold, it even sags and smooths it out like the old Dual Recs. 🤘🏼 The best mod I’ve found was the Legendary Tones Mr. Scary Mod that replaces the V2 preamp tube with 2 tubes and a circuit. It makes this amp a fire breathing monster. It essentially doubles the gain, but cleanly. Before the mod, I had the gain dimed, but after the mod, the amp gain is set on 5/8, with the mod gain maxed out. Give it a shot, it’s amazing what that $320 mod will do for these amps. 🤘🏼🔥🤘🏼
I want to get another Badlander for my studio. Actually 2 months ago traded my Badlander 50 for a Brand spanking new 100 watt Dual rectifier multi watt and im not sad about it. But I do want to get another Badlander as I really liked its tone. It's a great Modern Rectifier
I used your amp settings at rehearsal and the key for me was volume… I hadn’t turned the amp up loud enough previously, but it sounded really good with the band setting and i had the amp dialed exactly how you did here. Too bad you didn’t include capturing your own ir and adding those in as well. Would have been interesting to see if you could capture the tone from the mics in clone.
Awesome! Glad it helped. As far as the IR goes...making your own and loading it in is definitely a good idea I just wanted to show the stock ones here since that is what comes with the amp.
I too would like to hear the Cab Clone with the best Mesa Oversized 4x12 IR out there. Actually I thought you mic'd it up perfectly with that 57/421 blend, amazing.
sounds RAAAD. You should try that old Brutal Drive I left there. I found that thing works GREAT in front of amps that don't really need tightening, but could stand to be sent into full blown fuck you violence territory.
Interesting that you have the mids up at noon and it still sounds cool, I set my eq almost identical to ou with my mesa 2x12 but I dial the mids back to about 9. o. clock
I actually like it with the boost better. I mean the sound. I haven't played one and I know sound and feel can be two very different things as far as preference, at least for me they can.
Thanks for posting. Some have described the Badlander's tone as a Recto/Marshall hybrid. Would that be your assessment? I can hear the low end in the Badlander but I can't hear the that upper mid Marshall-esque grind, unless of course it's subtle but detectable in the room.
The mic’d sound from the 57/412 sounds amazing. Is that a true sounding tone coming out of the amp with the cab clone IR’s? Or have you done some work in post to make it sound better? If that’s straight out of the amp take my money
You know what bubba? King Kong aint got shit on you!! If all you had was a stick and a rubber band I swear to God it come off sounding Boss as Hell! Thanks for what you do man!
Sounds crushing! For some reason I still like the tones from my Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier Blackout multi watt just seems voicing is more my style but I liked the Badlanders aggression just seemed a bit compressed and maybe not as warm as the recto growl. Killer demo as always and your playing always shines I could recognize your signature sound anywhere!
compared to the Dual Rec how do you like the BadLand? Do you think it's too sculpted or do you like they voiced it to be the right modern rectifier? Some say it is more of a Mesa Mark amp in tone.
I like it a lot, actually. It is very different than a Dual Rec so you have to throw the ideas that you have with that amp out of the window as it is not dialed the same at all. They almost shouldn't have included it in the Rectifier series but I do understand why they did, for marketing purposes. It is much easier to dial in than a Mark series amp IMO. The only thing I would want is a little more saturation in the gain as the amp is fairly dry (which is one reason it is tight).
@@killertone That is interesting. I get that the amp can be adequately tight w/o a boost, but I wonder, then, if adding an OD could create the extra saturation you are missing. BTW, have you tried the Friedman Buxom Boost? The volume output is significantly hotter than yer average OD so you can slam the hell out of the front end, and it's got the Fortin style HPF (tight), and you have a useful tone and gain shaping section that you can select, or de-select with a dedicated switch. I think you'd like that pedal, if you haven't tried it.
Would it do well for C standard thrash and melodic stuff without a boost? I use JB thrash factor and mainly EMG 81 (I got an old one from 1992!). Deciding between this and EVH5153 Stealth. I can only have one amp at the moment sadly.
It would totally do that. The Badlander has less gain and is less compressed than an EVH. 5150III has tons of gain and compression. Pretty different amps.
Excellent video! Earned you a new subscriber! I have a question that I can't find an answer for: When you play through the Cab Clone directly to your interface without a cab hooked up to the head, does it make some sort of staticky type of sound? I used to have a Two Notes Torpedo Reload and that thing was so noisy that the buzz was louder than my guitar strings.
Thanks! The section of the video where I go through all of the 8 included IRs is the head with no cab hooked up with the Cab Clone going straight in to the recording interface. No unwanted noise at all.
Thanks! The guitar is my signature GC1.6 Killertone model from Solar. There is a link to it in the description of the video if you want to check it out on the Solar web site. Cheers!
Please I don't know if I've miss it on the video, what power tubes are you using? The stock El34 or 6l6 ? Btw, it sounds asweme, I'm thinking of buying the Badlander 50 Rackmount version
Their new cab clone technology is a rip off of torpedo cab. They make a deal with torpedo to use their technology. Go see the video of the cab clone with glenn flicker.
Not necessarily, Lars. You can load any 3rd party IR into the amp. I just used the stock ones here because I wanted to show the ones that come with the amp.
It really comes down to how much low end you want. If you want a fat big low end then the DR is the way./ If you want a tighter but much leaner low end then the Badlander is may the way. That being said, with the right boost the MW DR can get just as tight and have some low end to spare.
Too tight man! 🤘
That Solar guitar looks and sounds perfect
Just when you thought you had seen the best Badlander demo out, this happens \m/
Agreed
Wow, the onboard cab IRs sound really great!
I don't even play metal anymore nor am I looking for metal demos, but the tone on this video is really solid, clear, articulate. I'm sticking around to watch this one!
This is hands down the best sounding Badlander demo on UA-cam.
Thanks, man!
That demo song shows how skilled you are at mic'ing a cab. Awesome work.
Appreciate it, man.
those riffs man! Your 57/421 blend just puts the Cab Clone to shame! Those riffs man! Keep up the great work!
Love the killertone demmos.
What a talent...more!more!
They don’t call him killertone for no reason.
seriously… wholly sheet yoh
Jason, I'm always stoked when you upload. These Frankhouser droughts are like like crossing the Mohave Desert without a canteen, damnit. Fantasy colab: you and Hetfield do an album together. Yeah, I know it's totally unrealistic. But James is an old-school rhythm god, and I think he would benefit from vibing with a player who can keep pace with him, spur him on, challenge him -specifically in HIS wheelhouse -the Right-Hand-intensive, almighty RIFF. God save the Riff.
Agreed
Your technique is flawless and the tone is incredible as usual 🤘
How can I have been watching metal guitar UA-cam for years and just now find this channel!!!? Ordered Badlander 25 yesterday and this confirmed my choice: SICK!!!!
Cheers form san Antonio, just bought this badlander based on this video and it's the best amp i've ever played!
Right on, man! Glad the video helped you!
Another great mesa. Killer riffs as always.
Great review! Brutal playing!
Thanks a lot!
Killertone is officialy my favorite guitar youtube channel
I just dig everything you do for 10 years now
Man, great stuff as always. Definitely have this head on my list of stuff to try out.. sounds killer 🤘
That sound WICKED! Thanks for the demo, man 🤘🏻
Gotta be the best BL demo yet! Thanks Killer!
Thanks man!!
Hey, really nice video. I agree with you, I think it sounded worse boosted. Nice demo of the cleans, too.
Good call with the Grid Slammer. It's my favorite simple TS style pedal I've ever used, especially since it doesn't neuter the low end. I like that extra saturation. I use Direwolf for all the better control.
Best rectifier ever.
Great Demo, these amps are just getting better and better reviews.
Beastly riffs and tone 🤘🏻
Great sounding Mesa!Good playing as well.
Best recto next to the rev c and rev g. Just needs to be turned up to sound great. Killer demo.
Great play through! Killer tones!! Beautiful single cut!!!
Very nice I'm looking at buying one of these and pretty much convinced me this is the amp I love how you played but you showed the amp not your not you lot of people make it about themselves you made it about the product and that's why we're here thank you
Just discovered your channel… Nice videos man! Killer recording setup and tone. I stopped doing guitar videos because I suck at recording and playing (according to the few internet people that actually watched my videos 😂), but I also have one of the Mesa Badlander 100 amps, and it’s amazing! It reminds a lot of the old Rev G Dual Rec, but tighter. And if you switch it over to Variac mode instead of Bold, it even sags and smooths it out like the old Dual Recs. 🤘🏼
The best mod I’ve found was the Legendary Tones Mr. Scary Mod that replaces the V2 preamp tube with 2 tubes and a circuit. It makes this amp a fire breathing monster. It essentially doubles the gain, but cleanly. Before the mod, I had the gain dimed, but after the mod, the amp gain is set on 5/8, with the mod gain maxed out.
Give it a shot, it’s amazing what that $320 mod will do for these amps. 🤘🏼🔥🤘🏼
Wow incredible sound brother
Man…sounds amazing! 🤘🔥
I want to get another Badlander for my studio. Actually 2 months ago traded my Badlander 50 for a Brand spanking new 100 watt Dual rectifier multi watt and im not sad about it. But I do want to get another Badlander as I really liked its tone. It's a great Modern Rectifier
‘Sound like a pro every time’ 👈🏻😎
One of my favourite metal subgenres is Killertone gear demos.
No shit!!
Great video! Very nice sounding amp. Im thinking on getting a 50 rack mount.
Great info….killer sound
Dope tone, as usual.
I used your amp settings at rehearsal and the key for me was volume… I hadn’t turned the amp up loud enough previously, but it sounded really good with the band setting and i had the amp dialed exactly how you did here.
Too bad you didn’t include capturing your own ir and adding those in as well. Would have been interesting to see if you could capture the tone from the mics in clone.
Awesome! Glad it helped. As far as the IR goes...making your own and loading it in is definitely a good idea I just wanted to show the stock ones here since that is what comes with the amp.
I too would like to hear the Cab Clone with the best Mesa Oversized 4x12 IR out there. Actually I thought you mic'd it up perfectly with that 57/421 blend, amazing.
Crunch setting gain on 10. That’s the best metal rhythm tone to my ears. Gain remains completely usable thru the sweep
Mine arrives Monday 😁
dude.. u awesome lots.. great riffs always, love you bro.
Great Video!
Thank you
Great amp,Great demo. But I'm actually most impressed with the cab clone section. ANY company loading 8 Great Usable IRs is unheard of.
Picked up the 50w combo yesterday after watching this 😁
Love that guitar .., hot the same one
Great demo. Sounds like an amazing amp. Might have to go with one of these over a jp2c if I was looking at their current lineup.
Awesome amp
sounds RAAAD. You should try that old Brutal Drive I left there. I found that thing works GREAT in front of amps that don't really need tightening, but could stand to be sent into full blown fuck you violence territory.
Oh man you're probably right. I'll have to do that when I get back.
Please make this video even if it’s a short one!
Great playing kickass sound as always!
perfect demo!
Always good to see you man 🤘🤘
Interesting that you have the mids up at noon and it still sounds cool, I set my eq almost identical to ou with my mesa 2x12 but I dial the mids back to about 9. o. clock
Very Nice tone...Man...I gotta have one of these amps...Sold my Road king 2 some years back...and regret it evryday...:(
That was killer!
Nice one🤘👍
I actually like it with the boost better. I mean the sound. I haven't played one and I know sound and feel can be two very different things as far as preference, at least for me they can.
Without the boost is much much better.
Great videos as usual. 💥
You need to make more videos . I await more content lol
dude!!! killer as always!!!
Great amp from Mesa. One day....
cab clone 6 is wicked
If killertone aint doong a demo, dont waste your time 🤘
Some of those cab clones remind me of Prong
I thought the same thing
Sounds brutal 🤘🏻
The way you dialed it without any boost was so good, the boost wasn't necessary at all. It was just a different flavor, not a better one.
Thanks man-great video. Would you say that was a significantly better amp than the XXX?
Thanks again.
Thanks for posting.
Some have described the Badlander's tone as a Recto/Marshall hybrid. Would that be your assessment? I can hear the low end in the Badlander but I can't hear the that upper mid Marshall-esque grind, unless of course it's subtle but detectable in the room.
Man I wish I could post pictures, my red bronco just showed up today!
Although I prefer the 2C tone, this sounds killer. Nice riffage jack.
Are you planning on making a Tonex profile with this amp? Mic'd up like that, that would be awesome.
Fucking brutal, I love it
The mic’d sound from the 57/412 sounds amazing. Is that a true sounding tone coming out of the amp with the cab clone IR’s? Or have you done some work in post to make it sound better? If that’s straight out of the amp take my money
You know what bubba? King Kong aint got shit on you!! If all you had was a stick and a rubber band I swear to God it come off sounding Boss as Hell! Thanks for what you do man!
Haha thanks a lot of my man!
awesome
Fuck yeah dude kick ass riffs 🔥🔥🔥
Gotta have riffs! 🤘🏻💀🤘🏻
Sounds crushing! For some reason I still like the tones from my Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier Blackout multi watt just seems voicing is more my style but I liked the Badlanders aggression just seemed a bit compressed and maybe not as warm as the recto growl. Killer demo as always and your playing always shines I could recognize your signature sound anywhere!
Have you played one of these?
Can’t wait for them to make it to Europe finally… Neeed
I have the same amp with the same cabinet as well as the same setting as you have however I can’t get it to sound good. Maybe it’s the el34 tubes?
Man, killer song, riffs, playing and tone! Btw, your sm57 blend is out of this world. Make the cab clone sounds like shit.
Hahaha they are pretty good but I will always prefer doing my own micing that's for sure.
map sound wicked hardcore
Killer ❤
compared to the Dual Rec how do you like the BadLand? Do you think it's too sculpted or do you like they voiced it to be the right modern rectifier? Some say it is more of a Mesa Mark amp in tone.
I like it a lot, actually. It is very different than a Dual Rec so you have to throw the ideas that you have with that amp out of the window as it is not dialed the same at all. They almost shouldn't have included it in the Rectifier series but I do understand why they did, for marketing purposes. It is much easier to dial in than a Mark series amp IMO. The only thing I would want is a little more saturation in the gain as the amp is fairly dry (which is one reason it is tight).
@@killertone That is interesting. I get that the amp can be adequately tight w/o a boost, but I wonder, then, if adding an OD could create the extra saturation you are missing. BTW, have you tried the Friedman Buxom Boost? The volume output is significantly hotter than yer average OD so you can slam the hell out of the front end, and it's got the Fortin style HPF (tight), and you have a useful tone and gain shaping section that you can select, or de-select with a dedicated switch. I think you'd like that pedal, if you haven't tried it.
Cab Clones 2, and 7 sound best to my ears in this demo, but I like your mic'd can tone best.
Post more videos.
Fuck yeah Frankhouser!
Would it do well for C standard thrash and melodic stuff without a boost? I use JB thrash factor and mainly EMG 81 (I got an old one from 1992!). Deciding between this and EVH5153 Stealth. I can only have one amp at the moment sadly.
It would totally do that. The Badlander has less gain and is less compressed than an EVH. 5150III has tons of gain and compression. Pretty different amps.
Would you say this crushes the xxx?
Dude,that sounded killer! Do you have any recommendations for a good boost for the 5150? I use a tube screamer, but not sure I like a lot.
Thanks! I really like the MXR Custom Modified Badass OD and the Seymour Duncan 805 with the 5150.
@@killertone Thanks, brother. I’d love to see you do a demo with the Peavey 5150.
Excellent video! Earned you a new subscriber! I have a question that I can't find an answer for: When you play through the Cab Clone directly to your interface without a cab hooked up to the head, does it make some sort of staticky type of sound? I used to have a Two Notes Torpedo Reload and that thing was so noisy that the buzz was louder than my guitar strings.
Thanks! The section of the video where I go through all of the 8 included IRs is the head with no cab hooked up with the Cab Clone going straight in to the recording interface. No unwanted noise at all.
@@killertone Just to be sure, I didn't mean static in the recording, I meant static noise coming from the amp head itself.
I want a bad lander so bad
Wow 😮
Rhythm sounds crushing. Lead tone thin and shrill to my ears.
Great review.
what is the guitar tuning here?
Drop C. Strings are D’addario 11-50
What guitar is that?! Looks like a single cut w/ a solar headstock? Killer riffs btw and killer content!
Thanks! The guitar is my signature GC1.6 Killertone model from Solar. There is a link to it in the description of the video if you want to check it out on the Solar web site. Cheers!
Oh yeah I also have a model with a Floyd on it. Have a video of that one here: ua-cam.com/video/0nCo869C5EE/v-deo.html
Please I don't know if I've miss it on the video, what power tubes are you using? The stock El34 or 6l6 ? Btw, it sounds asweme, I'm thinking of buying the Badlander 50 Rackmount version
This was with stock EL34s
@@killertone thank you, you're the best
sounds awesome ! this is a great cab right there btw ;)
loved the riffings
Are you using 11-50 DR strings ?
Thanks! 11-50 D'addario strings
Cool stuff as per. A torpedo captor would still sound better than the in-built cab clone though right?
Their new cab clone technology is a rip off of torpedo cab. They make a deal with torpedo to use their technology. Go see the video of the cab clone with glenn flicker.
Not necessarily, Lars. You can load any 3rd party IR into the amp. I just used the stock ones here because I wanted to show the ones that come with the amp.
This vs. a multi watt?
It really comes down to how much low end you want. If you want a fat big low end then the DR is the way./ If you want a tighter but much leaner low end then the Badlander is may the way. That being said, with the right boost the MW DR can get just as tight and have some low end to spare.
Sounds awesome af . Btw what amp and boost did you use on your intro music?also is the badlander 6l6?
Thanks! This is an EL34 Badlander. That intro is the Neural Fortin Nameless plug in for the guitar tone.
@@killertone thanks for the info !