Slant 6 To V8 Engine Swap! Duster gets a 1 of a kind engine!
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2023
- The 1973 Plymouth Duster is back! I'm taking the tired slant 6 and 904 transmission out in favor a 351 stroker and 727 transmission.
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Sure do miss this car but I’m glad to see she’s getting a new life!
Well dude you are a Mopar master I was surprised you did sell this car you do some really good videos to by the way
As soon as I seen it I knew it was your old one
Looking forward to the Diplomat being done man!
So that is Dylan's Duster , I wondered what happened to it, in fact I was just asking about it in another comment.
Both of y'all do have good taste in cars.
Id love to see the white Cadillac with new rear wheel skirts and all cleaned up. That was probably one of the best recovery vids as well!
Poor Betty White been sitting a few :(
That was every young boys dream. In a feild Fer Pete's sake. Sooooo cool.
Stuck in the mud haha
That Cadillac recovery and subsequent videos were amazing to watch, what a beautiful and wonderful car that is.
Poor Betty, she deserves indoor storage.
I subscribed a few months ago, Found you through Cletus. I enjoy the videos so much I’ve gone back to watch all the historical videos. I used to be able to work on cars and now I’m laid up due to medical issues, but I can still get my thrill through this channel. I love your wit and it’s pretty cool you have your family involved. They appear very well raised and have awesome parents, and they will grow up to appreciate all they have been taught.
Same story, found through Cleeter and went back to the beginning. Definitely worth it and cool seeing the channel evolve over the years.
Nothing like drinking a cold fo'tee of PBR and spending some time with my favorite back woods mechanic Big Derek! Derek is why this country is as great as it is! Awesome Dustpan build!
WOOO HOOO!!! Saturday night excitement! Thank you for all that you do, Derek! As busy as you are, you never stop giving more to us, your fans! Bless you, my good sir!
@@paulwhitlock6666Ditto!
I just dig that Duster 😎
Hahaha!...ya need to organize yo keys!
Agreed
Lol
I am 58, and have projects like this. I do most of my work alone, like it seems that Derek here mostly does. There is a certain way that Derek makes this look fun, and not exhausting. But don't think for a minute that this is not hard work that beats you up every minute. And to do all of this while under the weather - yet keep it entertaining?.. These are qualities that I can appreciate. I went ahead & bought a Bland-National T to support all this. Bravo.
Thank you so much!
I don't remember the Guys name but a while back he built a 351 LS. Started out with a 351 block and used LS heads. If I remember correctly it was pushing about 500+/- hp. I'd like to say it ended well, but it didn't. They pushed it to the Max. I ate itself up from the inside out. He didn't take it to a machine shop. It wasn't balanced.
Good luck on this build, looking forward to seeing it run. Take care and I will Pray 🙏 for healing for you.
Derek is just one of the guys you know would be good to have around .Easy going and a hard worker super knowledgeable.
Im 57 and have 5 cars and realised yrs ago that if ya want lots of cool cars you have to work on them yourself or spend a fortune at a garage. Its usually never fun but very satisfying when you finish a job and know how much money you saved..
Yes 100%. I watch this content and can't help but wonder how many smashed knuckles, black fingernails, deep cuts, sore back and knees and swapping glasses so you can see aren't shown but must be felt making this content because I know when I'm working on cars that how it goes. Also the improvising required do when you need a third hand but you're on your own and have to find a way. It's hardly ever fun, at least not until it's completed and you appreciate the journey was worth the result.
I've got a 72 Duster project I'm working on getting back on the road, so I was really excited to see you digging back into this one with a super interesting shadetree hotrod setup.
So far so good, love the unique engine build.
That's part of what makes your channel great.
I really like how a guy has videos coming out at random non-scheduled time. Was wearing my VGG shirt today at the store and someone stopped me and said they also are a fan. Very cool. Thank you Derek for what you do.
Appreciate ya!
I built a Duster from the ground up from two Dusters at age 17, with no formal car knowledge, sure I screwed up a but, but I fixed it. After that experience you would think I never want to touch another car, no I wanted more.
My dad and I are fans. I bought him a shirt. Ol Derek here got us both saying, “I’ll be dipped!”
@ViceGripGarage hey Derek.. have you ever thought about getting into figure 8 dirt track racing??.. looks like it would be a blast for ya
Derek is a true Mechanic. I'm even saying Sparkulators 😂
Derek, I found this channel a little while back and I gotta say, your channel is treasure! I just love every one of them from start to finish. Thanks for allowing all of us to hang out with you while you work on these old girls. You crack me up😆
Oh man I'm kinda jealous you get to discover Derek's work this far into the channel, I remember rewatching the videos in his original driveway/garage
Welcome to the family :)
For me as a mopar and chevy lover this engine is just awesome 😊 I love the stance of this duster, mine looks similar, but I like this wheel and tire combo even more especially the rear tires!
😂😅😊
This is a great video! I will put up a video of the interworking's of the engine when we put it together this weekend for anyone interested! Thanks Derrick!
And to think I started watching this channel when he had like 990 subscribers blows me away. Shoe lace polishing a crank I knew it would take off . One of a kind .
SAME!
Not sure how he isn’t at 5 million by now! Best show on UA-cam!
Yessir
Derek & Jessica. The editing of your videos is really a notch above the rest. Very well done!
Glad you like them!
ls engines.. not good.. rockers vapve train, not good.. should of stuk with decent dodge heads.. better set up.. 351 clevo heads,,are what old skool guys dream of for there chev.. 350 chev, throw it away, find a truck block 010, then give bank details to speed shop.. clevo, fit 302 clevo heads, mid cam, lpg, one hell cut cat engine.. 12.1 comp.. i just sold a bronco 82, 351 with 302 heads no cam, lpg, 15 yrs of thrashing, no probs.. fitted sas front, d60 rear.. 250 brakes. also have a 340 r/t chall.. ausie.. oh,,bought an f100 4x4 62, from susanville, ca, only 1 in aus.. mustangs are like a disiese over here..@@ViceGripGarage
Love your channel. In 1972 I bought a Plymouth duster with a 318 auto. Drove it for a while then rebuilt the engine, new cam, lifters, intake, four barrel carb and headers. Ran it on the strip was a fast little car. It took a lot of people by surprise, it ran like a skull-did pig. Brought back some wonderful memories.
So glad to see you working on a project Derek! Revisions are an amazing journey, experience and show case of perseverance and determination! But, they sit there not being revived to their fullest. Can't wait to see this one blossom
I struggle to watch a tv show when sick, this guy does engine swaps. Your a legend Derek 💯✊️✊️✊️
I absolutely love how much harder you work for our entertainment benefit. You're a great man.
Thank you
Derek im loving this build so far cant wait to see more. Please do a repaint of this as well. I know my neighbors have to hate me because I love watching these as I wet my back neck and you always have me laughing loud as ever. Great video and as always thank you for the amazing content can wait to see what more is to come.
One of my top favorite Plymouths! I remember a feller picking it up and leaning on that brittle windshield washer reservoir, heh. Definitely looking forward to more on this rig, but don't overexert yourself, good sir. We totally understand if you need to take a week off to be sick; health is always more important than anything else after all so make sure you keep up with that first and foremost😄
My late friend/ bro-in -law had a 73 Duster 340 4spd. Man we had fun in that thing. RIP Dewey. Dewey's Duster was red with the white stripes. 340 emblems on the quarters.
I don't know how you do all you do, but major respect! You're single handedly motivating the rest of us!
He inspired me to do what I do again and build my channel up. He has no idea what he has done in our community ❤
Found you're channel about a month or so ago, and can't get enough, been binge watching through all your video's that you have posted, you're truly and entertaining fella, love the way you explain what your doing and the terms you use. Keep doing what you do, you're a heck of a awesome guy. Hope to catch you at a event sometime, especially out here in FL. Just recently moved here, and we just got a garage setup, so hopefully by next year's Sick week or Power tour we'll be roll in. Wishing you nothing but the best sir.
You have taught me so much, I feel good that maybe I can give back. When the mill twist and leants over, take a comealong from the droopy side to your lift chain, she’ll come right back around.
Takes one of the most expensive hobbies, building cars, and making it accessible to everybody. Love your thinking, love your rides, love your vids. Hope you have a great weekend Derek.
Wow! Two VGG videos in one week!? Love the videos Derek, please don't ever stop doing what you do. Been here since the early days and I'm one of the channels biggest fans! Congrats on taking 1st in the burnout competition. Much deserved!
Man o man......did you just bring back a hatfull o memories. I had a 73 Duster back in the early 80's and had no complaints except for the torsion bar front suspension. I hit a pothole with the front right wheel and cracked it good. I thought l would just replace the broken part but nooooooo because it was all one assembly. So had to replace the entire torsion bar suspension. Bummer! But one day it just wouldn't turn over. So, upon inspection l discovered that the rotor gear in the distributer was the problem. The metal tab was worn right down to the plastic. So a blade from a trac 2 razor and a little crazy glue had me back rippin up the road again. No lie, even had witnesses. And really loved those rubber pads on the bumpers. Memories, eh. Cars today are just meant to drain bank accounts. Love your channel, reminds me of me.....way back then. Thanks for the memories.
Derek , your videos are so real, clearly no acting or showboating. I really enjoy your videos compared to the others. You have inspired me to start and try for the first time restoration on an old vehicle.
I want to start on either mini Cooper or Morris minor or Ford Anglia.
Thank you Derek the manner in which you so your show is so original and unscripted. Thank you and keep on doing great. Bless you and your family.
It’s great to see you working on the rigs that you already have, keep up the great work!
Thanks, will do!
Derek, you probably know that the 6 cylinder Mopar A-body k-members are considerably weaker than the V8 ones for stiffness/handling/hp purposes...and for fitting/clearing V8 aftermarket oil pans. I thought I'd mention it since you said you were gonna hop the ol' girl up to 485 ponies. Adding a V8 k-member and welding in a set of Mopar Performance subframe connectors to convert the factory flexes-under-torque unibody to a full frame is highly recommended with all A-bodies. In my '71 Duster I also installed a leaf spring relocation kit that moved the springs inboard directly under the frame on the back to fit wider tires and wheels underneath the car with a narrowed 8 3/4 rearend with a 3.91 posi and Moser axles. That A-body strengthening recipe makes for a bulletproof daily driver/burnout chassis that can easily handle 500 horses at the crank all day every day AND handle very decently too given the era of manufacture. A full front/rear suspension rebuild with polyurethane bushings (including on a V8 anti-sway bar) does wonders for an A-body for handling and good burnout control as well. And since I went high hp also, so I installed a poly trans mount too...everything that keeps the engine/trans from rocking much protects those oversized Milodon oil pan corners (we also notch the k-member flats ever so slightly for safe, no-hole clearance). ;)
I run the /6 k member in my post car, even the /6 torsion bars and it’s ideal for straight line drag racing
I had that ,three on the column, passed threw my family, . The best learning car. Oya, said u can drive this car,,, u can drive anything. Thanks Derek.
Derek you made this look like such an easy installation, like it was meant to be in there. Can't wait for the rest of this series. I wear my OG Independence shirt and people keep enquiring about your channel. I have been telling people all about what they are missing by not watching you.
Hi Derek , thanx for hanging in to make this terrific episode ! I,m sure the wonderful Jessica is taking care of you .... sincerely hope you feel better soon !! 😊😊👍❤
One human, (sick) puts a V-8 where a 6 once set. All the while, crackin' us up every minute. Thanks Derrick, you're defiantly one of a kind. Can't wait to see part 2 and hear that thrown together mess RUN!!!!
I'm just wondering if the rear differential is going to hold up to this massive power output Derek is expecting? Hope it has a nice sound to it, albeit he says it doesn't like to idle!
Meanwhile given where I live I am happy to take 40hp difference in power to have the v6 version of my vehicle and save a lot of money getting more than double the gas mileage of the v8 version of my car. $5.45 a gallon for regular is not good I run 89 and I pay like $5.75 a gallon
I like how he’s always throwing batteries around 😂. I’ve never ever bought merch off of a UA-camr. That changed when I started watching this channel. Got a closet with a bunch of VGG swag in it 🤣.
Fellete here! That was a fun video. And you had fun doing it, in spite of having a cold? Which speaks to your always positive attitude, always finding a way to make things work, and always being an inspiration. Thank you, Derek!
I really enjoy this episode of the 73 duster . Brings back memory's when my brother had his 73 duster his had a 340 and was standard . His pass away now so when I see someone work on or has one it cheers me up and makes me think of my brother and the good times he had with his car . Hope you keep working on it till its finish and hear it run and drive.
This is the bob ross of motor sports haha thanks for what you do. You encouraged me to get my 71’ c10 up and running again!
Always loved these 70's Duster/Dart bodies.
Boy. That software noise cancellation sure is fighting with those cicadas! Lol😂
Great stuff. My first car was a 75’ Dart with three on the floor.
I struggle to watch a tv show when sick, this guy does engine swaps. keep up the great work!
So good to see these old revival/drive it home cars getting pulled out the weeds and worked on. Appreciate all the work you put in to keep us entertained.
I had a 73 Scamp and a 74 Volare with the slant 6. Two of the best cars I have ever owned. Easy to work on and always reliable
When I first clicked on this video I was saying please don't put a 318 in it, but then I got to about the 50-minute mark and i was soooo excited! Now thats one hell of a budget 318! I should have bought a 70 duster when i had the chance but sometimes there just a little too far gone here in New England.
Derek, can't wait for the next episode of this Duster project. Keep up the fantastic work! God Bless VGG!!!
Keep up the great work Derik!
We like the revivals, but the hot rodding on a realistic budget keeps things in reality for the average guy.
I've been around since the beginning,
Thank you for staying you!
My first car was a 70 Duster. My dad and I did this swap. Slant 6, 3 speed on the floor to a 318 Automatic. It was such a fun car and lots of great memories with my dad. Thanks for a fun video to watch.
Dear Vice Grip, all of the Old Small Block engines, the Mopar 318, The Ford 302, and the Chevy 327, ALL ARE AMAZING LEGENDARY ENGINES! Thanks Vice Grip for building THIS AWESOME ENGINE 🚂, WAY TO GO YOUNG MAN!!! Thanks for the video 📸.
Respect to guys at Vice grip garage and Restored guys, I like watching their shows.
Hey Derek, lookin good! A lot like my Duster- 318 stroked to 390 (but NOT with an LS valvetrain, nothing wrong with Ma Mopar's if you do it right) with 727 trans that I built basically in my driveway. I really wish I had a lift like yours, I'm gettin' too dang old for crawling around under cars! Can't wait to see how this beast turns out! Keep the MOPAR stuff coming!
Amen to that!
Being old and under cars hurts more now. Keep going.
318 strokes out to 390 😱
Mopar or no car!
@@brianf8621 Only if you use a 4" crank. Derek is using a 3.58" crank, same as a 360, but with 318/340 mains.
I once had a 318 topped off with 360 heads, a four barrel intake and a carter AVS carburator. The tranny was a Torqueflite 727. Ihad lots of fun with that set up. Have fun.
Great video! Nice shop! Derek shows what he thinking, and executes with humour. Thanks buddy for posting from rainy Vancouver Island.
Ive owned 2 cars in the past with the slant 6 engine, both were just amazingly reliable and have never seen or heard anyone removing a slant 6 before. This was very interesting and entertaining to see, thanks Derek.
I didn't do it myself but I had my brother in law do a slant 6 swap form a 76 valiant to a 73 dart sport. Then I let them use it until the heater core blew up. I can't remember what I did with that car, it sat around in my driveway and then I moved, I practically gave cars away. But that was 30 years ago
My dad had a d100 with the slant 6, but it was worn out, so he through a 360 in it
Love watching these builds, Derek is always coming up with totally different and unique builds.. Love this channel.
I'm enjoying the heck out of this!!!
Really appreciate Derek keeping things "down to Earth" kinda-sorta.
Lots of WELL FUNDED, BIG $$$ shows that dump tons ca$h in builds that us common folks could only dream of.
Can't wait to see this rig come to life! 😊
What has always amazed me about you is NO profanity. How you can be a mechanic and never swear is beyond my comprehension. I was a flat rate mechanic and could never have manage that. You truly are an exceptional human. OR do you edit that out?? I'd have nothing left to show! 😊😊😊
Not gonna lie, still hoping to see someone work with these slant 6s with some modern upgrades and remain in the car. Sure it's less easy, but that's sort of the point.
Thanks for the two in a week, Derek! By the way, I know how much you love your diesel engine oil for flat tappet engines, however…. I use Mobil One high mileage 10w30 in my ‘69 el Camino. It has all the zinc, phosphorus and molybdenum that the old oils had and then some. They actually caution you because your oil pressure increases.
Back in '77, after graduation, I bought a '74 Duster. Gold metal flake with black stripes & top, with a slant six & a 3 speed. Was a great ride, back when 100k miles was well worn, lol. In 79, on a budget, freshined up the motor, but balanced & polished. Added headers & a bit more carb, lol. Bugger would scoot, considering all, & still got reasonable mileage. Got me thru college with a grin or 2... Thanx for reminding me of some fun years !!
Had a nearly identical Duster a few years ago, was hoping to do a V8 swap, 318 etc. Very interesting how you notched the engine mount without swapping the K-Member. Thanks for the great content, you guys do impressive work both filming and editing. Keep up the great work !
I hope you are feeling better, Derek. I really like projects like this. I hate seeing old cars scrapped. I expect you have a plan for the rear axle. Maybe wait until the one in the car is done in! Anyway you go it will be fun to watch. Thank you so very much, for my many hours of enjoyment watching your content!
Wow! Nice work sir. I’d have been happy with a perfectly functioning slant-six but now you’ve gone to another level.
Derek thank you so much for dragging this one out again. My dads brother had a blue '74, one of his last cars before he passed. i never got to see it in person, only pictures. ive never seen one up close, this video is the next best thing. Ive built some beauty engines for some mopars, fords, and chevys over the years, but no big v8s of my own.
this duster is my dream car through and through. I just want to bring back my uncles legacy with one of these someday. the canadian east coast isnt to kind to sheet metal unfortunately lol.
anyway, thanks again Derek, this video means a lot to a feller
I had a 74 gold duster with the slant 6, great car and great engine. Love those bench seats! Not the fastest engine, but last for ever, smooth, easy to work on. Plenty of room in the bay for that engine swap as I recall. I put some cheap cragars on it, improved the air intake, little lift in the back, cherry bomb “muffler” and a mint 4 speaker cassette player. Fun car, but did have a rust problem. Best to dry ice the bottom and undercoat if you can. Enjoy!
From leaning tower of no power to weird mutt of spare parts power! Awesome start so far! Here’s to seeing it running and moving that car!
I love your sense of humor. You had me lol a lot. I'm really looking forward to seeing this project done and seeing what it will do. I appreciate all your dedication being sick but still working hard to give us great videos. Thanks!
He's gotta feed that UA-cam algorithm, but yeah, he has a great work ethic.
That “318 LS” is a work of art! Coolest Mopar small block I’ve ever seen…(other than a factory340 six pack)🎉
Derek I loved the video and am looking forward to seeing the continuation of this project. Having a cold is horrible and I currently have one myself. Currently instead of working on any projects I am tending to my 89 year old mother in the hospital. Hope you feel better soon!
Holy Moly, 2 videos in the same week,freaking awesome!
That is going to be a runner.
Great video as always 👌 👍 👏
That engine is the definition of experimental and I Love IT!
I had a 340 Duster years ago, really nice, quick and sounded great.
Awesome as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along
Yes!! Great build with a super cool unique engine. Viper rods?? Wild - can't wait to hear this thing run. Love it! (Take care of yourself and get well Derek)
This project is awesome! I'm thoroughly enjoying the installation of the new engine, which isn't new. I'm curious to see how part two is gonna be
😊Thank you for sharing! 😊
Love it!! Another awesome rebuild.... i love that body style. My dad had a 318 in his 1979 Dodge Ram charger (the one that looked like a blazer) and he ended redoing the rig with ground up restoration and swapped it out with a bigger Mopar motor. Love the way you dressed her out and set her up...
I built a 318, with police interceptor 360 intake, heads and cast factory headers, a 930 rhermoquade and a functional zx-10 cowl induction hood scoop from a Comato hood.
. Dropped it in a 1972 Gremlin with273 gears.
How fun it was!
This guy likes 1 of a kind as well
Glad to see the Dustpan get some love. I was hoping for a 4speed manual but it is still one of my favorite cars you have rescued.
Live your videos and love how the whole family is involved you are a true inspiration sir thanks for letting us into you passion of working on these treasures.
This Duster with slant 6 would be nice to have. My father had a 1971 Dodge Dart with a slant 6 with AC and ran perfect.
In the military there was a number of vehicles ( trucks, cars and fork lifts ) that used the slant 6.
Yup...I owned a 1976 Dodge Aspen, with that venerable slant six...I bought it for $900, about 20 years ago. It had 70 thousand miles on it...Eight years and 100,000 more miles later, I sold it for $500, to a guy who said he could fix the slipping transmission. That car averaged 22mpg in general use, and the power was adequate. My gearhead friend dissed my Aspen, declaring it to be "nothing but a Cab!"...My retort was, "So what?"
That engine though... It's very old school hotrodding. 318 block, Viper connecting rods, LS valvetrain... Just whatever parts you can make play nice with each other with a bit of persuasion. Amazing!
I hope you get to feeling better. I really enjoyed this episode. Thank you making this even though you don’t feel well.
Been waiting on the ol duster to make a return, I LOVE the originality on the motor idea. I always try to be different with my builds everytime and I love what you did with this! Very excited to see her kickin up some dust soon
This guy can work on practically anything under the sun. From motorcycles, to lawn mowers, gas and diesel engines, this dude is a genius. Love your videos, Derek! Thanks for being such a great guy. Keep up the good work, man. Greatly appreciate the entertainment. God bless you and your family.👌👍
73' duster was my first favorite car. My dad bought one the day my brother came home from the hospital in 1989. I still remember watching him pull up in it. My dad dropped a 318 in it. It would light a tire up around a corner 😂
When Derek says “story for another day”, I genuinely believe he’s going to make a 90 minute video dedicated to that story.
He ain't gone back on his word, yet....
I grew up in the trunk of one of these Dusters. The back window deck was missing and we used to go from the back seat to the trunk.... cool to see a v8 swap. Always wanted to tinker with one of these. Love the show Derek. Keep on keepin' on man. 👍👏
Love the restoration content! Good to see the cars restored and cared for instead of just revived
Reminds me of my first swap with my Dad. Slant six for a salvaged 318 on a 66 Dart wagon. My first car. One of my favorite memories!
I have a feeling that this is going to be one of my favorite Car builds yet other than the Independence. Hope to see you get right back on this one fairly quickly I really want to see how this go's. I am betting it's going to be pretty cool. You have a good one and God Bless and I hope you feel better my friend.
Hope you're feeling better soon Del Boy, can't wait to hear this wee beastie running.
Awesome project, I recently came across a 74 Duster same color. That's a sweet motor that was put together. You Just know this thing is do some solid burnouts when that motors fired up. Looking forward to the follow up video 👍🏻
My buddy in high school had a Duster with a 340 wedge and it had fender well headers. They cut through the top of the fender and went down behind the front wheels .
Hey Derek - loving the channel from over here in the UK - your approach to problem solving is inspirational. If you do build another barn I would love to to see if you could make solar panels work for you, what the economics are, how effective they are etc - I know we’d get the real story from you! Thanks for the content!
Yep. Not the supposed truth of how good they are ..
Tasty Classics!!! Pour me a pint mate!!!
@@craigpimlott204
Supposed?
You have to use your head. Usually ‘installed’ solar is illogically expensive. But it has its place especially when the ROI is short enough.
People are spending stupid money on solar but stupid is as stupid does. On the other hand I’ve been offgrid for nearly five years and it works fine for me. Plus where I live has saved me tens of thousands of dollars and I couldn’t do it without solar.
Another awesome project Derek. Growing up in a Ford family(5.0 Foxbodys, Lightnings, SHO’s, Cobras Ect) i became the “outcast” as I got older for falling into Mopars. Picked up a brand new 00 Dakota R/T Reg Cab sophomore year of HS, been into them ever since. Good on ya for always building different stuff💯
Nice touch with you and your buddy's motor!!
I live for weird engine swaps like this. Absolutely love this build. Never in my life would I have imagined viper rods going in a 318
always good to see a duster getting some love.
Derek, you amaze regarding how much you accomplish by yourself and your motivation,. It is apparent that you have a passion for what you do and you do it so well; all parts of rebuilding, driving, and editing. I too have many projects and take great satisfaction in completing them; however, some are never ending.
My favorite channel. When ever I have a project that is a bit much, I watch a couple of Dereks videos for motivation. They get my head right for wrench turning
I had a 1972 Duster in the same color. The floor was so rusted out that once morning, I stomped on the high beam switch and my boot went straight through the floorboard. But, the good thing was that it was winter, so I got 17.54 gallons of Michigan slush up my pant leg. Perfect!