Good Grief! Laura is so jealous of Annette that she constantly patronizes her. Poor Annette she was so nice and polite to everyone and Laura is so...condescending!
The old version of Spin The Bottle was called “Heavy Heavy Hangs Over Your Head”. "Let's play `Heavy, heavy, hangs over your head,' " someone might suggest. This required the same circle of chairs with everyone seated now. The hostess often officiated so everyone could play. She moved around the circle collecting some personal item from each: a hair barrette, a handkerchief, a belt, a pocket knife etc. The hostess then stood behind the chair of one player, selected an item from her assortment and intoned the words, ''Heavy, heavy, hangs over your head. What shall the owner do to redeem it?'' Because this player did not know what was being held over his head, he tried to think of something unusual, something ridiculous or embarrassing. He might say, "Dance a jig." "Recite a poem." "Untie Mary's shoe laces," or the ultimate in daring, "Kiss your best girl." The latter brought screams of laughter. The owner of the item responded usually with reluctance or outright refusal but he or she would be urged, teased, cajoled, even pushed forward until some kind of response was forthcoming. It eventually evolved into just kissing.
The “Crier” would hold the forfeited object over the player’s head (the player was supposed to be blindfolded) and answer “Fine” if the object belonged to a boy and “Super Fine” if it belonged to a girl. This version of Spin The Bottle was actually played in 1908 and into the 1920s with some variations. Seems weird to me that the Disney writers used this antique version of the game (by now Spin The Bottle had become a kissing game) instead of some other more up-to-date teen party game like charades which was super popular back then, but I guess it all had to revolve around Laura’s necklace.
Some of those commenting here think that Val and Steve's mother looks so old .... but in reality Mrs. Abernathy is actually only 53 or 54 when they made this serial. I was 52 when my third child turned 15. So these moms in this serial were not really old ...the kids in this serial were all around 15 or 16. AND, YES, these were simpler times because we had great movies without so much emphasis on violence like the movies are today!! We just didn't need to feel like we had to grow up so fast.
With that math, Mrs. Abernathy would have been a mother at 39 or 40, which is the age they might have been in reality. The Abernathys are already old enough to be grand parents.
I think Annette Funicello's singing can be compared to Elizabeth Bennett's piano playing: not super trained and perfect, but so pleasurable and pretty to listen too!
I like how she sings and plays in the film with Jennifer Ehle, she was the best Lizzie Bennett, intelligent, good natured and competent but modest. She did not try to win Mr Darcy through flirtation or flattery, but she got him in the end, because they both realized they could change a bit. I did think the movie showed her playing and singing a bit better than I would expect. And hopefully Mary would not have tried to perform in public, given that she had very little talent. But it is just a mini series. One can live with it.
Among the serials, this is my favorite, and perhaps a crown jewel in that it featured several Mouseketeers in a different light--acting. It also featured an eclectic cast of adult character actors, among them, Richard Deacon.
@@SOCORROSILVA-in7px Deacon played Fred Rutherford, Ward's co-worker, not his boss. Deacon was also Mel Coooley on THE DICK VAN DYKE SHOW during the same time.
I had a feeling their version of 'spin the bottle' would be different from today's version but what I want to know is when it mutated into a kissing game?
C'mon, people - stop complaining about Laura! Yes, she was rude and self-centered, but isn't that just a depiction of how some people are in real life? I think it's ironic that so many people accuse Disney productions of being unrealistically idealistic, but here we have a good example of the opposite. I am also touched by Annette's awkwardness and frustration at not being able to fit in. I'll bet that resonated with a lot of kids who watched this serial.
Tim Considine(Steve) really plays a wonderful role in this movie Annette.... I love the way he treats everyone..he would have been someone I would have liked back then...he is sooooo nice and treats everyone with such respect.
I’d love to know what they were eating for their formal dinner. Any guesses? Looked possibly like ham, potato salad, creamed peas - didn’t see any green veg or fresh fruit in that spread...
Hey, coming from the 50's as more the Annette type, and going to over a dozen schools across the entire country; I can say....kids were kind of like this. Spin the Bottle was the name of the game back then. Sure, it's rehearsed and choreographed, for the sake of 'theater'. And yes, there was ALWAYS a Laura in the crowd. I experienced them everywhere and survived. Life Lessons #101.
cybertail, I was about to post the same thing. I've never heard of this version. I suspect it was sanitized for popular juvenile consumption. Als, I know language was less casual then (e.g., not as many contractions used to frequently as now), but this is a the dialogue here is ridiculous. Though it actually nice to see actual manners and etiquette observed, I don't believe children or teenagers ever talked and behaved in such a mature and stilted fashion. I suppose this was the production's way of modeling "correct" behavior and communicating that this is upper tier, high society.
Before the end, she does get that lesson, though not from Annette (as almost anyone who watches this surely knows). But you got to admit, she does recognize 'competition' when she sees it, and knows Annette is one who could draw Stephen's attention away from her.
Packer, best known as Mrs. Rayburn (the principal) on "Leave it to Beaver," and as Mrs. Osborne in "Dobie Gillis." When casters wanted to fill the role of a no-nonsense authoritative older woman, Packer was one of the first actresses sought.
It really was a time when young people dressed better and didn't use the word 'fuck' like they do today. Guys didn't wear suits and ties all the time, but they didn't dress in tee shirts and jeans (especially when they had dates).
If that necklace was so precious to Laura, she should have put it on the minute she received it back from the forfeit retrieval part of the game. Instead, she left it on the piano where it was at risk of falling in.
@4MaryAnna. Kitty obviously didn't shop at the smarter dress shops, or they would have told her to wear a different style of dress, no big sash in the back, and her hair to slenderizing her round face. The other girls have pencil skirts and upswept hair do's. But Annette looks adorable in everything.
While not a Mouseketeer, Roberta Shore (Laura in the serial) appeared often in the show. She's best remembered as Judge Garth's daughter Betsy in the TV show "The Virginian." She later went on to be a disc jockey.
@MoDans No, she was jealous!!! She decided not to like Annette from the beginning. When Annette came in and got everyone attention including that of her boyfriend, It was too much for her. Plus, Steve didn't even introduce Laura.
Thank you so much for posting these vids. I used to stay uplate and watch them on the Disney Vaults. I agree with everyone that Laura chick stinks. She's just rude, and Annette is at her most perfect perfection in this serial. One last thing I love Steven from Sid and Marty to the Hardy boys he was just dreamy.
As a child, I watched the MMC, but I cannot remember family comedy series like this. I must have missed something. But the family shows like Father Knows Best were like this too. I do think that it is a bit camp by today's standards. I guess that is the reason for the Pleasantville satire, which I enjoy watching. I am not sure that the liberalization of morals and films is entirely good. It has gone too far. Especially the new woke Disney films. I would not let children watch such films. They go too far on woke avenue.
That's what happens with the wrong sort of people are given a magnificent medium to work in and don't know how to use it in spite of all of the examples of excellence in the past. Too many people in the industry today have little vision or talent. Perhaps what you see now is a reflection of their minds and their "imagination." That can be quite telling. Ever see SWIMMING WITH SHARKS? That may give you the idea.
@@RayPointerChannel I liked the old Disney, which was about goodness, and virtue, happy ideals and moral, normal lives. It is a shame to see how the woke fanatics are trying to mock and pervert the original values that made Disney a family film company, the one that produced Mary Poppins, for example.
Good Grief! Laura is so jealous of Annette that she constantly patronizes her. Poor Annette she was so nice and polite to everyone and Laura is so...condescending!
The old version of Spin The Bottle was called “Heavy Heavy Hangs Over Your Head”. "Let's play `Heavy, heavy, hangs over your head,' " someone might suggest.
This required the same circle of chairs with everyone seated now. The hostess often officiated so everyone could play. She moved around the circle collecting some personal item from each: a hair barrette, a handkerchief, a belt, a pocket knife etc. The hostess then stood behind the chair of one player, selected an item from her assortment and intoned the words, ''Heavy, heavy, hangs over your head. What shall the owner do to redeem it?''
Because this player did not know what was being held over his head, he tried to think of something unusual, something ridiculous or embarrassing. He might say, "Dance a jig." "Recite a poem." "Untie Mary's shoe laces," or the ultimate in daring, "Kiss your best girl."
The latter brought screams of laughter. The owner of the item responded usually with reluctance or outright refusal but he or she would be urged, teased, cajoled, even pushed forward until some kind of response was forthcoming.
It eventually evolved into just kissing.
The “Crier” would hold the forfeited object over the player’s head (the player was supposed to be blindfolded) and answer “Fine” if the object belonged to a boy and “Super Fine” if it belonged to a girl. This version of Spin The Bottle was actually played in 1908 and into the 1920s with some variations. Seems weird to me that the Disney writers used this antique version of the game (by now Spin The Bottle had become a kissing game) instead of some other more up-to-date teen party game like charades which was super popular back then, but I guess it all had to revolve around Laura’s necklace.
Some of those commenting here think that Val and Steve's mother looks so old .... but in reality Mrs. Abernathy is actually only 53 or 54 when they made this serial. I was 52 when my third child turned 15. So these moms in this serial were not really old ...the kids in this serial were all around 15 or 16. AND, YES, these were simpler times because we had great movies without so much emphasis on violence like the movies are today!! We just didn't need to feel like we had to grow up so fast.
Her outfits didn't help.
With that math, Mrs. Abernathy would have been a mother at 39 or 40, which is the age they might have been in reality. The Abernathys are already old enough to be grand parents.
Thank you annett for being so " moral" ! It's more then I can about those others from your day! So God bless
היי ! תודה לאל על תחושה נכונה ולא נכונה! זה אלוהים קובע את הנכון ואת הלא נכון. דֶרֶך! אז בואו לשבח את אלוהים במלואם.
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Can you please translate your comment into English? The official language of the entire world is English.
@@SOCORROSILVA-in7px does that really bother you that much bro
I think Annette Funicello's singing can be compared to Elizabeth Bennett's piano playing: not super trained and perfect, but so pleasurable and pretty to listen too!
I like how she sings and plays in the film with Jennifer Ehle, she was the best Lizzie Bennett, intelligent, good natured and competent but modest. She did not try to win Mr Darcy through flirtation or flattery, but she got him in the end, because they both realized they could change a bit. I did think the movie showed her playing and singing a bit better than I would expect. And hopefully Mary would not have tried to perform in public, given that she had very little talent. But it is just a mini series. One can live with it.
Among the serials, this is my favorite, and perhaps a crown jewel in that it featured several Mouseketeers in a different light--acting. It also featured an eclectic cast of adult character actors, among them, Richard Deacon.
And Mary Wicks!🤣
Didn't Richard Deacon play Ward Cleaver's boss on "Leave it to Beaver"?
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@@janeiwasduncan8463 AND...Sylvia Field as Deacon's sister a year before her famous role as Martha Wilson on DENNIS THE MENACE!
@@SOCORROSILVA-in7px Deacon played Fred Rutherford, Ward's co-worker, not his boss. Deacon was also Mel Coooley on THE DICK VAN DYKE SHOW during the same time.
I have always like Shelly the Donna Reed show ❤, she also played into a fewer Elvis presley movies,
I had a feeling their version of 'spin the bottle' would be different from today's version but what I want to know is when it mutated into a kissing game?
same!
I had a home made dress like Annette in green taffeta.
Man, poor Annette. Being a teenager never really changes!
Laura was a Modern-day Nellie Oleson
Or the original Regina George.
C'mon, people - stop complaining about Laura! Yes, she was rude and self-centered, but isn't that just a depiction of how some people are in real life? I think it's ironic that so many people accuse Disney productions of being unrealistically idealistic, but here we have a good example of the opposite. I am also touched by Annette's awkwardness and frustration at not being able to fit in. I'll bet that resonated with a lot of kids who watched this serial.
The wonderful Doris Packer, who also played Mrs. Osborne on Dobie Gillis.
Juliaflo also Mrs Rayburn on leave it to beaver
Tim Considine(Steve) really plays a wonderful role in this movie Annette....
I love the way he treats everyone..he would have been someone I would have liked back then...he is sooooo nice and treats everyone with such respect.
it was "kissing games" then, too, but that sort of stuff wasn't featured very often on Disney's programs of the '50's. :)
I’d love to know what they were eating for their formal dinner. Any guesses? Looked possibly like ham, potato salad, creamed peas - didn’t see any green veg or fresh fruit in that spread...
@4MaryAnna That was Mouseketeer, Sharon Baird. Her costume was meant to look awkward to fit her character.
At approximately what time frame does Sharon Baird appear in?
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Hey, coming from the 50's as more the Annette type, and going to over a dozen schools across the entire country; I can say....kids were kind of like this. Spin the Bottle was the name of the game back then. Sure, it's rehearsed and choreographed, for the sake of 'theater'. And yes, there was ALWAYS a Laura in the crowd. I experienced them everywhere and survived. Life Lessons #101.
interesting version of "spin the bottle"...
cybertail, I was about to post the same thing. I've never heard of this version. I suspect it was sanitized for popular juvenile consumption. Als, I know language was less casual then (e.g., not as many contractions used to frequently as now), but this is a the dialogue here is ridiculous. Though it actually nice to see actual manners and etiquette observed, I don't believe children or teenagers ever talked and behaved in such a mature and stilted fashion. I suppose this was the production's way of modeling "correct" behavior and communicating that this is upper tier, high society.
Fine or super fine?
Annette will be waiting for you in the alley after the party, Laura. She'll show you how they deal with spoiled brats in Gopher Junction!
Before the end, she does get that lesson, though not from Annette (as almost anyone who watches this surely knows). But you got to admit, she does recognize 'competition' when she sees it, and knows Annette is one who could draw Stephen's attention away from her.
RIP Annette.
Doris Packer also was in a few 1963 episodes of Beverly Hillbillies,playing wealthy Mrs.Fenwick.
Packer, best known as Mrs. Rayburn (the principal) on "Leave it to Beaver," and as Mrs. Osborne in "Dobie Gillis." When casters wanted to fill the role of a no-nonsense authoritative older woman, Packer was one of the first actresses sought.
So true. This is one of the few times I can recall her playing such a sympathetic character.
Richard Ranke And one episode of The Andy Griffith show.
Refreshing to see teenagers acting like humans
manhoot I'm a teenager myself but I couldn't agree more
I wholeheartedly agree
It really was a time when young people dressed better and didn't use the word 'fuck' like they do today. Guys didn't wear suits and ties all the time, but they didn't dress in tee shirts and jeans (especially when they had dates).
Yes, and they wore tasteful clothes that fit properly.
Spin the bottle was a kissing game in the 50's' too.
Disney wanted the teenagers to be wholesome.
Yeah, I thought Spin the Bottle and Post Office were strictly kissing games! “Fine or super fine?” 😆
Yes but this was Disney, you don't think they would do a kissing game for the Mickey Mouse Club.
If that necklace was so precious to Laura, she should have put it on the minute she received it back from the forfeit retrieval part of the game. Instead, she left it on the piano where it was at risk of falling in.
Agreed. Much of her ranting is denial of her own carelessness.
1:50 Beaver Junction is a great place to be with Annette.
@4MaryAnna. Kitty obviously didn't shop at the smarter dress shops, or they would have told her to wear a different style of dress, no big sash in the back, and her hair to slenderizing her round face. The other girls have pencil skirts and upswept hair do's. But Annette looks adorable in everything.
While not a Mouseketeer, Roberta Shore (Laura in the serial) appeared often in the show. She's best remembered as Judge Garth's daughter Betsy in the TV show "The Virginian." She later went on to be a disc jockey.
Tom Barrister Thanks,saw her in a lot of shows in 50s and 60s.Never knew her real name.
Did this version of spin the bottle ever exist? If it did, things definitely changed by the time I was a young teenager in the early part of 1970s.
Shelley Fabares ❤️
That's not how we played spin the bottle. Of course I was a teenager in the late 60s and early 70s.
Is there a reason Drew has to ask "Fine or super fine"? I don't understand that part of the game.
Also Tim Considine - you would never recognize him now days..but his personality is still very very likable.
So it was Steady who carelessly placed Laura's necklace on the piano! Poor Annette caught so much grief from Laura for nothing!
Laura's so mean!
lauras just jealous, the limelight has been taken from her. typical mean girl.
"Laura" would be Judge Garth's niece on "The Virginian."
@MoDans No, she was jealous!!! She decided not to like Annette from the beginning. When Annette came in and got everyone attention including that of her boyfriend, It was too much for her. Plus, Steve didn't even introduce Laura.
Laura’s hairdo was beautiful.
That's Shelley Fabares on the couch next to Annette
That's not the spin-the-bottle I anticipated.
Thank you so much for posting these vids. I used to stay uplate and watch them on the Disney Vaults.
I agree with everyone that Laura chick stinks. She's just rude, and Annette is at her most perfect perfection in this serial.
One last thing I love Steven from Sid and Marty to the Hardy boys he was just dreamy.
It's SPIN!
I am 79 Our mother was at our parties Not in our living room but in the house
Laura is So RUDE, Mean and Obnoxious !
But from my experience, most pretty and Popular girls were.
That's not how remember playing spin the bottlle..
At approximately 1:20 Steve introduces Annette to the entire gang while at 1:40 Laura abruptly tells Steve, who was playing in the piano, "And what about me?".
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Laura's behaviour can be labeled as a jerk and of having poor manners because she could of said to him "Steve, can you please introduce me to Annette?" This way Laura would have gained more points with Steve then she can bargain with.
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RIP Karen Pendleton.
@barbarasprague - leave to polerizing script writers to really
make the antagonists rotten , yes Laura is real piece of work....
@misspbj1999 - She's got the Green Monster called "Jealous"
Oh give Annette a break 😢
Still people like that!
What class
Funny, when they said "Spin the Bottle" I thought of kissing games. I guess "Spin the Bottle" was different in 1958.
Not really. I was a young teen in 58 and knew that was a kissing game. DIDN'T want to participate but later teen would!!!
Did Disney use corsets?
No woman has figures like that.
Laura is so mean! She needs to be booted out of their "crowd".
shes a guest and not staying long...
If Laura Rogan was any meaner, she could have been my second grade teacher.
Must have been Laura's 'time of the month'.
1:29 "Tony Blair", huh.
Um...what kind of spin the bottle is this? lol
Although I do like it.
Homestead was da man!!!!
As a child, I watched the MMC, but I cannot remember family comedy series like this. I must have missed something. But the family shows like Father Knows Best were like this too. I do think that it is a bit camp by today's standards. I guess that is the reason for the Pleasantville satire, which I enjoy watching. I am not sure that the liberalization of morals and films is entirely good. It has gone too far. Especially the new woke Disney films. I would not let children watch such films. They go too far on woke avenue.
That's what happens with the wrong sort of people are given a magnificent medium to work in and don't know how to use it in spite of all of the examples of excellence in the past. Too many people in the industry today have little vision or talent. Perhaps what you see now is a reflection of their minds and their "imagination." That can be quite telling. Ever see SWIMMING WITH SHARKS? That may give you the idea.
@@RayPointerChannel I liked the old Disney, which was about goodness, and virtue, happy ideals and moral, normal lives. It is a shame to see how the woke fanatics are trying to mock and pervert the original values that made Disney a family film company, the one that produced Mary Poppins, for example.
היי ! תודה לאל על תחושה נכונה ולא נכונה! זה אלוהים קובע את הנכון ואת הלא נכון. דֶרֶך! אז בואו לשבח את אלוהים במלואם.
SHALOM!!
Pp
Annette actually did steal the necklace but when the heat came on her she dropped it in the piano.
Someone is not following, or is trying to be snarky. No she didn't.