I have an AWD 2010 Rav4 with the same 3.5L. it's a great engine. I have a 150 km miles on mine and I've never had an issue only done the 60k and 120k maintenance maintenance on it. My other vehicle is a 2019 Toyota tundra which is an amazing vehicle as well too. Toyota all the way!
I’m still sticking with Toyota/Lexus for reliability. I’ve had my 2021 RAV4 for 3 years and no issues whatsoever. Now the mileage is still quite low at over 55,000 km but still.
I purchased a 2025 Mazda CX-5 yesterday. Being imported from Hiroshima Japan with 90% Japanese part content, I am confident that I got a well made vehicle.
Same with the 3. I'd rather have a Japanese vehicle built in Japan and nowhere else. I really don't trust Japanese vehicles built by Americans, they just care about their paycheck and not the quality of the vehicle.
As a 72 year old man who has bought new cars every year or two for his whole life. I’ve had Cadillacs, Jags, Chevys, Hondas, Oldsmobiles, Fords, VW’s, Audi’s and a whole lot more, No car manufacturer consistently makes cars that surpass Toyota/ Lexus. And I say NOBODY.😊
How do you know if you replace them every two years? We are 76/80 and drive a lot of miles and drive cars till over 200 k miles. We’ve driven mazdas 330,000 without any fault. The AC worked for 220,000k in south Florida (24/7/365.) Toyotas are 2nd best
No offense but if you buy a new car every year or 2, your opinion on reliability is about as useless as useless can be. You can’t properly evaluate the “reliability” of a car within the first 2 years, it’s just not enough time for anything to wear out. There’s a reason manufacturer warranties mostly stop at 4-5 years, because they know those early years in the ownership period will have the least issues, so it’ll cost them the least amount of money in warranty claims
tbf, manufacturers here don't combat that attitude. i've heard more than a few examples where a car here will have significantly different service intervals, or the composition of a service here will be much different, vs other markets, for the same car, or powertrain, or mileage, and not usually for the more conservative. then there's BS like "lifetime fluids"... automakers' hands aren't clean
Too true. As UA-cam videos point out, modern Toyotas can be as reliable as those from 20 years ago. The difference is that those from 20 years ago could be neglected and still survived whereas new ones are only reliable if they are meticulously serviced.
Hyundai kia genesis legendary 10-year 100,000-mile warranty is twice the competition's! TWICE! I survey that Hyundai kia genesis are twice as reliable as competition!
In 33 years of driving Toyotas to over 150K miles I’ve never had a single issue. I’m 12 years into driving Lexus hybrids just as far without a single issue. A new NX hybrid will arrive for me soon.
@0HOON0 I purchased used batteries for 1200 dollars and my mechanic replaced for 1500 total. (Battery was 60k mile on it) But new one is over 5k. Plus labor at dealership.
My Toyota Corolla was 23 years old as I sold it and needed only normal maintenance. My current Toyota is now 14 years old and had no mayor repairs, so guess what my next car will be?
I had a 2005 Corolla for 16 years. I did absolutely nothing to it but regular maintenance and 2 batteries. I live on the cold Canadian prairies. It was a manual transmission with 185 000 miles and original brakes when I sold it to my nephew
I too drive a 2008 Land Cruiser, going on 311000 miles, love these trucks, take care of them they run and run! Stay on basic repair items and these take you there and back year after year. 🙏😇
I love to see this! Picked up a 2020 LX 570 for this exact hope that I can take it over 300k miles over numerous off road camping trips. If you don’t mind me asking, what oil weight have you used? 5W-30? 0W-20?
CR has a longstanding bias in favor of Subaru. I'm not a Subaru hater but they have had their troubles in the past and CR enthusiastically recommended those problematic models as well. Take CR with a grain of salt, like everything else. I don't expect to be able to put 250k+ miles on my wife's Subaru without replacing the transmission. Heck, I don't expect to get 150k+ miles out of it.
I built Honda's for 30 years (great vehicles) BUT I drive a Prius & Tundra! Subaru's make good common sense EXCEPT I see almost all of them have to replace the head gaskets and the maintenance costs are astronomical SOOOO no thanks. ALWAYS (WITH ALL BRANDS) RESEARCH THE CAR BEFORE YOU BUY TO SEE WHAT THE COMMON PROBLEMS ARE!
@@PeterHernandez-lg2eh I had 2019 Subaru Outback made in Indiana USA , absolute JUNK ! Got 2021 Subaru Forester made in GUNMA , Japan , outstanding ! It all depends where it is assembled !
@@rightlanehog3151 it's because of people who dont buy them because they think it's underpowered and want overpriced toyota. Nissan and mitsubishi produce extremely vfm cars along with subaru. A fully loaded nissan versa with heated seats is only 22k where as a base corolla that has no blind spot, no heated seats, no push button no alloys for 24k hence nissan is better has more features.
I’ve bought multiple new cars over the years. Subaru dealerships also have the best customer service by far. Nobody is perfect, but after owning new Hondas, Fords, Toyotas, it’s not close. Subaru is always the friendliest and easiest to deal with.
Same experience with me. I helped someone buy their Subaru. Our sales guy was fantastic. Let us test drive the car twice to make sure she liked it. He gave us 3k off MSRP on a 2023 Subaru Forester Sport. With new Falken tires, this car is a winter beast. So far just oil changes. We have friends who have Subarus with over 200k miles on them. Just change the fluids, let them warm up, and you are pretty set on any Subaru.
@ 100% I recently picked up an Outback Wilderness. The salesman let me test drive different vehicles. Even told me to call this dealership a few hours away to ask for a quote that was beyond what they could so he could show his manager. I did and he was able to match it. I mean, who does that? Toyota acted like they were doing me a favor.
I put 275,000 miles on a Gen II Prius. Most reliable car I've ever owned. Front brakes went 100,000 miles before replacement. Rear drum brakes never needed replacement. Fluids, spark plugs, filters, suspension parts and tires were all it ever needed. The center display went blank, but it was rebuildable for 175 bucks, and takes less than 10 minutes to remove and replace. Amazingly reliable car.
Reliability scores for 3 to 5 years are interesting, but these problems are covered by standard warranty guarantees. I want to see reliability scores that measures reliability over 10 to 20 years. Now that would tell you something useful !
I'm a Consumer Reports subscriber ("member" they call it), and I generally find them to be a valuable source of info. What I find unusual is that they are actually including 2025 model Foresters in this scoring, and that is a brand new redesign, and I can't imagine how they could have enough data already to include it, and it's the last three years of Forester and Impreza reliability that's the main reason Subaru as a brand out ranked Toyota. So they are ranking that whole brand based on basically only two models of that brand.
CR will do that on certain vehicles depending on the scope of the redesign. The 2025 Forester was more of a "refresh" and CR must have felt comfortable providing that rating.
Subaru uses the same motors across their lineup either a 2.5 or a 2.4 turbo . II have had 4 in the last 10 years and not 1 problem with. the engine or trans . no oil consumption but I follow a strict maintenance plan always dealership and oem fluids.
What they said above.. 2025 Forester essentially is same as 2014 in terms of powertrain. Actually even simpler, as turbo model has been discontinued since previous generation.
@@Venomoustoxins2122 the only transmissions I see failing are the 8 speed transmissions in the new Toyota Tacomas. Oh and engine failures in the new Tundras? Yeah no thanks I’ll stick with Subie.
@@FordEnthusiast413 my uncle had a 2020 navigator and was worried about the cam phaser situation and I believe they’re running a wet belt for the oil pick up and he sold it and bought a brand new outback XT. He’s loving the Subaru more than he loved the Lincoln….
Subaru has not beaten Lexus. That’s a bunch of BS. To the people that are reading the comments stick with Toyota Lexus. It’s the most reliable. JD power is the most BS list, they are paid to say which vehicles are most reliable. For many years, JD powers picked unreliable vehicle stating they were reliable.
Mazda is great, though, 130k is just getting warmed up compared to Toyota’s track record. Most Toyotas can easily hit 300k if routine maintenance was performed.
On my 3rd Modern Mazda since 2018, Mazda overall, and quality is top tier. Like top 3. Their paint looks much nicer than Subaru too. The CX5 SUV drives like a dream, 4 wheel independent suspension, AWD Turbo and the signature edition is feature packed. Most Mazdas are made in Japan super reliable, and comfortable luxury without looking too flashy.
2011 RAV 4 Limited V6. 155,000 miles. Sway bar replaced twice, and back struts. I consider the work nothing out of the ordinary. They no longer make the V6. The car is a jet. I love it.
I'm glad to see you chose to use Consumer Reports owner data over JD power initial survey! I think Consumer Reports method of gathering data of over 300,000 owners for years of out of warranty ownership experiences is way better than JD power under warranty surveys!
I talked with a guy who does Rivian warranty work. He said that Rivian, being a new manufacturer, doesn’t allow enough space for wiring harness type stuff. So they get jammed together at the factory and often damage the contacts or the wiring.
Definitely interesting information. I think it would also be helpful to see the breakout on individual models- since many people are more concerned on the car they buy, with the brand probably secondary.
@@JonathanPaulin Mazda's reliability skyrocketed when they split from Ford 10+ years ago. Their relationship with Toyota is recent and very, very limited. (Despite what Scotty Kilmer implies)
@@MaddNomad1015Subaru was already reliable before that. And the same for Toyota being that they’ve used engineering ideas from Subaru to produce the GR86
2018 Subaru Outback 3.6R owner here with 110,000 miles on it. Purchased new at the end of 2017 . No issues other than new battery and just replaced all tpms wheel sensors preventively as I had one sensor go bad. Batteries in those wheels sensors only last so long. Love the 3.6R 6 cylinder engine with heavy duty CVT transmission. Scheduled maintenance is the key to keep any car running properly long term. BTW, also have Mini Coopers, BMW X4, and owned 3 Ford F150 trucks ( 2001, 2018, 2021) My Ford trucks were by far the least reliable. Major oil consumption issues in the 2018 and 10 speed transmission issues in the 18 and 21. Regardless of brand, you better make sure you have a dealer and service department that you like nearby.
Pretty much all German brands are unreliable piles of crap in the USA. BMW being one the worst, the fact it is in the top ten, really has me questioning this list.
The detailed information that showed model years from 2000 - 2024 plus 2025 is referring to CR's general practice of scoring reliability. If you read the blurb on the side of the graph showing all the brands that is the subject of this video, it states clearly that "the brand reliability score was calculated by averaging results from 2022 to 2024, and some early 2025 data for each brand". Make no mistake, this ranking is reliability for very new vehicles - vehicles that are all under warranty. I really don't understand how this is useful. What is interesting is how reliable vehicles that are OUT of warranty are.
They are the most boring cars on the market and their redesigns are the most conservative where hardly anything changes which makes their redesigns very reliable while Toyota has started to make more drastic redesigns instead of conservative redesigns like they did before which has dropped their reliability score
@@chibbyylol even they are reliable the new ones the recalls of toyota and lexus are proof and toyota just recalled about 70 2024 rav 4 and lexus nx for brake and wheels that can fall of due to loose nuts now explain what u mean.
G'day it's Steven from down under again I'm allways interested in Kirk's views and opinions, however this Consumer Report reliability ranking seems "unreliable" and inaccurate in my opinion, and has no credibility. I completely agree with your comments, you're always unbiased and factual. Furthermore as a Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross PHEV owner my experience has been extremely positive to date, I have no issues whatsoever and we're already planning to upgrade to the 2025 Outlander PHEV in a few months when the facelifted model is released here, apparently it has a number of additional new features including larger battery capacity and extended range. Looking forward to your eventual review of this humble and quiet achiever. Furthermore it appears that Mitsubishi may be releasing a serious sports variant of the Outlander PHEV in RALLIART form, could this be true??
I think CR and JD power can make better new surveys that breaks reliability concerns down by powertrain, interior electronics, etc. There is a lot of spread in reliability within a brand based on the model. Maybe they can rank these surveys based on model as well to give consumers a little bit more information?
I've owned two Subarus. One had transmission failure, the other had the infamous head gasket failure. Never again. Driving a Mazda CX-70 now after trading in a CX-5 with 225k miles on it without any serious issues ever. Best car I ever owned.
I have a Toyota Tacoma (17) and a Subaru Outback (18) both have been very reliable vehicles. The Outback has oil consumption issues which I find troubling and if you ask the dealer they say it’s in the normal range. Both vehicles have over 100000 miles but now I’m looking to replace the Subaru with a RAV4 with the regular engine.
And I'll still buy Toyota. Subaru are better than many others. Worked on the tools since 1986 on ALL brands of cars, I'll stick Toyota brand ( inc Lexus ).
Kirk, Form is temporary but class is permanent. Stick with Toyota/Lexus for reliability. When the annual list comes out, it should always be posted side by side with 10 year average reliability rankings to see where anomalies pop up. CR can't get sufficient data on those other brands because their members have wisely stopped buying them .😉
Perception is why they are the best selling automaker in the world and will keep growing no matter what unless Chinese EVs come how takeover the world but that’s a slight chance and CR also has used car car reliability ratings and they have Lexus at 81 and Toyota at 74, and Mazda at 63
@@kbenti $300 for just the OEM fluids if you have the tools to do it yourself. It's $500+ for the dealer to service it. There is supposedly an approved aftermarket fluid available now but I used OEM to protect my warranty.
Subaru sorted out the gasket issue almost 15 years ago. The reality is turbos are expensive to replace. If you don't keep your vehicle over 100k it's not likely to be a problem. After that it's a waiting game. It won't be like the bulletproof V6 and V8 days.
There are only three manufacturers I would give money to right now. Mazda, Subaru and Toyota. If I intended to keep any of them over 100k I wouldn't touch anything with a turbo. @@alanyoung159
I own a Toyota sienna 2005 and a subaru forestor 2016.both bought new.sienna has 270 thouand miles on it.the subaru 157 thousand miles. I spent a lot more money on the subaru in 9 years of ownership than I spent on the toyota in almost 20 years. Not even close,the toyota is by far more reliable.
You said exactly what I was thinking. Subaru has no hybrids, are so basic and boring that there's not much to go wrong. I'm not shocked they ranked high.
I've driven Toyota since 2000 and am sticking with Toyota. Scotty Kilmer just bought a 2025 Camry and I'm looking to do the same. I suspect Toyota got dinged because of some of the problems that they had with trucks recently. I would stick with Toyota Corolla, Camry, Prius and RAV4.
If you have unintended acceleration today, you got some fat foot diabetes issues. That, or you’re just a drunk. Either way, get checked. Don’t blame the car.
I kind regret buying a Subaru. My 2016 Forester bought since new. I’ve nothing but issues just recently I got my cam carrier reseal after it had huge oil leak. Tbh I would’ve do lease instead keep Subaru no over 5-6+ years
I just looked at the reliability scores for the Subaru Forester over the years. The pre 2019 Foresters were unreliable. Since the 2019 redesign the Forester reliability has improved greatly.
My 2015 Mazda 6 GT made in Japan has been THE MOST RELIABE car I’ve ever owned and my 2013 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 TRD-OFF ROAD has been THE MOST RELIABLE TRUCK I’ve ever had, with absolutely zero issue since day 1! I still own both vehicles and I LOVE THEM!!! 👍👍👍
Same with my Mazda3 GT 2017. 160k miles so far with nothing outside of basic maintenance. Only a speaker went static and replaced a brake switch that my friend broke. Lol
I agree. My 2014 Mazda 6 GT, which I purchased April 2013, most reliable car I ever owned. Just routine maintenance, and I had to repair Bose speaker surrounds in front doors.
My land cruise lc100 was the most reliable vehicle I’ve ever owned. After lifting it tires spacers, leds ect it was looking mean. It was stolen this summer. And I miss it so much.
The problem with this kind of traclomg is that you need to go back many years to get an idea of reliability, but car tech has changed so much that the only thing that is going to tell you is how reliable those old cars are. You can put Toyota near the top of this list, but that isn't going to make current Tundra owners feel any better about needing a full engine replacement. We're definitely trying to predict the future using past performance when past performance is based on different vehicles.
Would be shocked if 2000-2024 Alfa Romeo ends up orange-red as suggested. Their historic rep is terrible, but they made a (IMO successful) effort to build better cars during this time frame. I have imported 159 3.2 Q4 here in Canada, absolute flawless tank that I trust to take me to the mountains every weekend.
I’ve driven literally many more than a million miles. We usually buy new cars and drive them till they’re finished. Without question the best cars we have had have been Mazdas. All without problems till more than 200 k miles. Hyundais have been terrible and Subarus have had major problems long before 200k
Subarus given the right attention will last more than 200K miles without any major issues. Yes, Mazda can do that without much effort, but it's an inferior design in every performance marker.
As a longtime subaru fan, I'm SHOCKED seeing Subaru at the top!!! I live in PA where not only do i see em a lot, i've had a ton of em in the family! They always had issues. Usually burning oil and crappy CVT transmissions. what sorcery is this????
Basic is best and just do internal. tweeks to engines and transmissions has served Subaru well . Also look at issues as weighted , I'll take a laggy screen over a major engine or transmission issue any day.
toyotas that use the newer smaller turbo engines arent that reliable anymore. theres still some toyotas that use the older 2.5 engines, some lexuses that use the 2gr v6 and v8
New smaller turbo engines from Toyota are very much reliable like always. Only the tundra had issues . Even then they are replacing every single recalled tundra engine. So that issue is very much sloved. Even so called great v8s/v6s from Toyota were extremely unreliable at the start before they got fixed. Stop overreacting.
@@chiiiiweeeee you can go for anything and its perfectly fine. But in this day and age turbo engines are very much reliable and miles better than any na V6 or whatever.
I've saw an auto repair shop video the other day that listed the most reliable vehicles they service, and Toyota wasn't their top one either, but he said that's because people tend to keep their Toyotas for much longer, so, yes, an 18-year-old Toyota is going to have more issues than an 8-year-old Subaru.
Regardless of what surveys you see, when it comes to GM< you will find that the Cadillac Escalade and the Chevy Corvette are the most reliable GM cars. They have the least problems because GM cares the most about those two models. They are the cash cows for the company. If they go down, GM goes down
Subaru is very well built and have lots of cross compatibility in parts. This keeps costs down and simplifies manufacturing, reducing costs. Due to the boxer engine, long term maintenance gets more expensive. A decent amount of normal repair requires the engine to be unmounted and dropped. Well worth it if you keep good maintenance or if you are capable with a wrench.
My four year old 21 Yota Rolla hatch 6mt has been 100% reliable so far. I'm seeing more complaints in the Corolla forms with the 2024-2025 despite it being the same gen since 2019 in the States.
Thanks for the video. I don’t see how Subaru is top reliability. They are good in the 1st 5 years or 50k miles after that they start having engine problems.
There is a video from CR staff talking about this and they even say that they expect this will be fleeting. As Kirk said, few powertrain options or changes from Suburu and that's what allowed them to rise in the standings. Toyota has introduced several new engines (Honda too) and it takes a while to work bugs out. That's why they've dropped.
My 2010 Prius is most reliable and maintenance free car I have ever owned. My Toyota '79 4x4 pickup and '98 4-runner were also pretty darned good. I still see lot's of very old Toyotas on the road and they still look good. Other brands, not so much. To me Lexus is really Toyota. In 2025, I am thinking of getting a Subaru, hopefully one of their new hybrids, hopefully a PHEV.
really surprising they don't have enough data to rank Mercedes-Benz...seems fishy given the anecdotal nightmare stories of Mercedes-Benz reliability as of late. Not having enough data on Porsche is more understandable given the survey is 2000-2024.
Hybrids, particularly Toyota ones, are among the most reliable cars. Back in the early 2010's, the Prius was rated the #1 most reliable car (NOT just hybrid car) by the TUV-Report, Germany's reliability testing program. Unlike Consumer Reports and JD Power, which are based on owner-submitted surveys and thus subject to recall bias, TUV is a nuts-and-bolts, hands-on program conducted by certified mechanics. In Germany, your car has to be examined every few years in this program to maintain registration, and the fault rates are entered into a database. Then the cars are ranked in terms of the number of problems, with the fewest-number cars getting ranked at the top. Autobild praised the Prius, noting that despite its "complex hybrid powertrain", it performed perfectly. It's too bad the US doesn't have an objective system like TUV. Well, in some ways we do. Priuses are a favorite of taxi drivers because they last a long, long time--even on the pothole-ridden roads of New York. It's not uncommon to have a Prius cab logging 300,000+ miles, even with city, start and stop driving. That itself is pretty good evidence for hybrid reliability.
@@myauctionaddictionestatesa7451 new turbo I4 and hybrid turbo I4 in the Tacoma has been a very reliable engine without any serious issues whatsoever. Stop creating non existing issues about a perfectly fine vehicle or engine. If anything its only the tundra had issues. 👎
Not really, you can't depend on consumer reports. Toyota has long been synonymous with reliability, Subaru's recent advancements and consumer feedback suggest a potential shift in this dynamic. As automotive technology and consumer expectations evolve, these rankings may continue to change, reflecting the ongoing competition between these two brands.
I got a couple buddies that work for my Mitsubishi dealer as a tech a parts guy. The new Outlanders are virtually probably free other than the initial recalls for the hood and very minor issues with interior pieces. The other vehicles in their lineup are also reliable as well. The only real issue that they tend to deal with is CVT issues which isn't an surprise. They advocate to their customers with CVTs on scheduled fluid changes recommended by the manufacturer to help reduce issues though.
I have a 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander that I purchased in March 2018, nothing has failed or gone wrong with 75K mileage, they gave me a 10 year warranty on the powertrain as standard, every unit comes with that. However mine has a V6 natural and a standard 6 speed transmission no CVT, the highest trim level made in Japan. This car flew under the radar in its day. It was the only company offering 0% financing for their higher end models at the time, for 5 years. All other companies advertise a low rate but then when you want to buy the higher trim level or extend the years of payment they jack it up, I hate that deceptive marketing. Also with a non-turbo model I only have to change my oil once a year, which saves me money. I once went to change my oil at six months and the mechanic says I got to be honest your oil is full and clean save your money, showed me the dip stick to prove it. Synthetic oil goes a whole year in this engine. Glad I got it. About 15K used now, if your looking to save money on a used vehicle and it still has a warranty on the powertrain that is transferable.
@@BackToTheGame.98 Incorrect....the Outlander is built in a Mitsubishi factory's. Nissan builds their X-trail (Rouge in Japan) in their factory's. The Rouges are built at the Nissan Tennessee factory. Other than the chassis platform, motor, transmission and some parts like the gear selector and infotainment system, they are different. AWD systems are different, suspension and steering tuning is different, interior space is different etc etc.
I don't believe Subaru is reliable, family member has a new Forester and the transmission is going at 14k miles. Friend of mine had 3 transmission replacements in his Subaru before 50k miles. It's unfortunate but my father is a mechanic and he taught me better than buying one.
Stuff happens sometimes, you get the short straw but it's the frequency. For every Subaru owner that has your story there are dozens of GM owners with that same story.
As a mechanic I have no issues with this list. The only thing that I will say about Subaru, is there 4 cylinders do have a tendency to blow head gaskets. However, I wouldn't worry about it until it hits 90 to 100,000 miles. Of course, not all of them will.
My 1999 harrier with 465,000 is still going strong ,soft as always and quiet also taking into account it that the road conditions in my country are so terrible.A Toyota is still a Toyota at the end of the day
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I bought a 2023 Lexus IS350 for the older reliable V6 engine, no start/stop, reliable older 6-speed transmission. Built like a tank.
and the is model and rc model, too are like this.
CR said the 2014 Tacoma was terrible because it was old and outdated. I went out and bought one. Great decision.
I have a 2016 Lexus IS350 F Sport AWD with 242k miles and no issues ever.
Yea I have 2023 is500. It’s a tank
I have an AWD 2010 Rav4 with the same 3.5L. it's a great engine. I have a 150 km miles on mine and I've never had an issue only done the 60k and 120k maintenance maintenance on it. My other vehicle is a 2019 Toyota tundra which is an amazing vehicle as well too. Toyota all the way!
My '14 Camry SE 4cyl. has 468,000 miles and still running strong. Used for Uber in NYC. 😊
that 2.5L engine is great.
That is truly reliable. Whatever JD power or consumer report on new cars are fake reliable. 😊
No transmission issues?
How often you change the oil?
Please don’t say that you change your oil every 100k miles 😆
I’m still sticking with Toyota/Lexus for reliability. I’ve had my 2021 RAV4 for 3 years and no issues whatsoever. Now the mileage is still quite low at over 55,000 km but still.
That ain’t long enough or enough mileage to judge reliability tbh, but glad it’s working out for you.
I purchased a 2025 Mazda CX-5 yesterday. Being imported from Hiroshima Japan with 90% Japanese part content, I am confident that I got a well made vehicle.
Just never buy the CX-30....I helped build those in Alabama..😅
Japanese made cars actually manufactured in Japan are the best!
I had a ford focis with a Mazda motor, and yes it was good little motor
You did. its quality for sure
Same with the 3. I'd rather have a Japanese vehicle built in Japan and nowhere else.
I really don't trust Japanese vehicles built by Americans, they just care about their paycheck and not the quality of the vehicle.
As a 72 year old man who has bought new cars every year or two for his whole life. I’ve had Cadillacs, Jags, Chevys, Hondas, Oldsmobiles, Fords, VW’s, Audi’s and a whole lot more, No car manufacturer consistently makes cars that surpass Toyota/ Lexus. And I say NOBODY.😊
Agreed!
Agree
How do you know if you replace them every two years? We are 76/80 and drive a lot of miles and drive cars till over 200 k miles. We’ve driven mazdas 330,000 without any fault. The AC worked for 220,000k in south Florida (24/7/365.) Toyotas are 2nd best
Agree 💯 Toyota/Lexus TOP
No offense but if you buy a new car every year or 2, your opinion on reliability is about as useless as useless can be. You can’t properly evaluate the “reliability” of a car within the first 2 years, it’s just not enough time for anything to wear out. There’s a reason manufacturer warranties mostly stop at 4-5 years, because they know those early years in the ownership period will have the least issues, so it’ll cost them the least amount of money in warranty claims
Americans seem to view reliability ratings as a how much you can neglect the vehicle.
Good point
I mean yeah lol. That’s what it’s all about. You don’t want a car that needs constant attention. Most people are already married and have kids😂
tbf, manufacturers here don't combat that attitude. i've heard more than a few examples where a car here will have significantly different service intervals, or the composition of a service here will be much different, vs other markets, for the same car, or powertrain, or mileage, and not usually for the more conservative. then there's BS like "lifetime fluids"... automakers' hands aren't clean
Too true. As UA-cam videos point out, modern Toyotas can be as reliable as those from 20 years ago. The difference is that those from 20 years ago could be neglected and still survived whereas new ones are only reliable if they are meticulously serviced.
Yeah. What else would it be
Consumer reports says subaru is most reliable. JD Power says Subaru is junk 😂. Both proving survey is not scientific 😂
If you can't beat Jeep's 5-year 60,000-mile junk warranty, then you are a junk!
Hyundai kia Genesis guarantee their products to last 10 years 100,000 miles.
Hyundai kia genesis legendary 10-year 100,000-mile warranty is twice the competition's! TWICE! I survey that Hyundai kia genesis are twice as reliable as competition!
My 10-year old subaru is reliable. The car's previous owner replaced the CVT transmission last year 😆 😂 🤣
@@JohnLee-tb3nhmine I got it guaranteed to 125,000
In 33 years of driving Toyotas to over 150K miles I’ve never had a single issue. I’m 12 years into driving Lexus hybrids just as far without a single issue. A new NX hybrid will arrive for me soon.
2014 lexus es300h. 395000 miles. Still running like new. Replaced hybrid battery at 270k.
How much for the new battery if you don't mind sharing?
@0HOON0 I purchased used batteries for 1200 dollars and my mechanic replaced for 1500 total. (Battery was 60k mile on it) But new one is over 5k. Plus labor at dealership.
new Lexus Toyota not good anymore your car is old
Ford has more recalls than any other supplier. Sorry I'm staying with toyota they attest care to keep their buyers happy
My Toyota Corolla was 23 years old as I sold it and needed only normal maintenance. My current Toyota is now 14 years old and had no mayor repairs, so guess what my next car will be?
Corolla Touring Sports
@@rightlanehog3151A Ford ?
Yeah but they're Toyotas, and they're no fun unfortunately.
@@florinvid OK! but.... saving a lot of money is also fun.
I had a 2005 Corolla for 16 years. I did absolutely nothing to it but regular maintenance and 2 batteries. I live on the cold Canadian prairies. It was a manual transmission with 185 000 miles and original brakes when I sold it to my nephew
My 2008 Landcruiser has 381,000 miles on it and purrs like a kitten. No major repairs, just wear items replaced.
I too drive a 2008 Land Cruiser, going on 311000 miles, love these trucks, take care of them they run and run! Stay on basic repair items and these take you there and back year after year. 🙏😇
I love to see this! Picked up a 2020 LX 570 for this exact hope that I can take it over 300k miles over numerous off road camping trips.
If you don’t mind me asking, what oil weight have you used? 5W-30? 0W-20?
CR has a longstanding bias in favor of Subaru. I'm not a Subaru hater but they have had their troubles in the past and CR enthusiastically recommended those problematic models as well. Take CR with a grain of salt, like everything else. I don't expect to be able to put 250k+ miles on my wife's Subaru without replacing the transmission. Heck, I don't expect to get 150k+ miles out of it.
I built Honda's for 30 years (great vehicles) BUT I drive a Prius & Tundra! Subaru's make good common sense EXCEPT I see almost all of them have to replace the head gaskets and the maintenance costs are astronomical SOOOO no thanks. ALWAYS (WITH ALL BRANDS) RESEARCH THE CAR BEFORE YOU BUY TO SEE WHAT THE COMMON PROBLEMS ARE!
I have Lexus, Toyota, Honda and Subaru. Subaru the worst of the bunch
It's sampling bias since they are asking CR subscribers, and then only those who bother to answer, for their survey.
@@PeterHernandez-lg2eh I had 2019 Subaru Outback made in Indiana USA , absolute JUNK ! Got 2021 Subaru Forester made in GUNMA , Japan , outstanding ! It all depends where it is assembled !
A lot of transmission problems with Subaru. A LOT.
Japanese all day ever day💪
Did you notice that Japanese Nissan and Japanese Mitsubishi are not doing too well?
@@rightlanehog3151 it's because of people who dont buy them because they think it's underpowered and want overpriced toyota. Nissan and mitsubishi produce extremely vfm cars along with subaru. A fully loaded nissan versa with heated seats is only 22k where as a base corolla that has no blind spot, no heated seats, no push button no alloys for 24k hence nissan is better has more features.
@@rightlanehog3151 except the mirage all other mitsubishis are very good the outlander being the best.
@@rightlanehog3151 Nissan got contaminated by Renault and they also own Mitsu now.
@@rightlanehog3151soooo should we get a GM instead? No, we should get another Japanese brand. Hence, Japanese cars all day every day
This ranking seems a lot more reasonable than the JD Power BS, where MINI, KIA, Genesis are all ranked top of the list.
I’ve bought multiple new cars over the years. Subaru dealerships also have the best customer service by far. Nobody is perfect, but after owning new Hondas, Fords, Toyotas, it’s not close. Subaru is always the friendliest and easiest to deal with.
Same experience with me. I helped someone buy their Subaru. Our sales guy was fantastic. Let us test drive the car twice to make sure she liked it. He gave us 3k off MSRP on a 2023 Subaru Forester Sport. With new Falken tires, this car is a winter beast. So far just oil changes. We have friends who have Subarus with over 200k miles on them. Just change the fluids, let them warm up, and you are pretty set on any Subaru.
@ 100% I recently picked up an Outback Wilderness. The salesman let me test drive different vehicles. Even told me to call this dealership a few hours away to ask for a quote that was beyond what they could so he could show his manager. I did and he was able to match it. I mean, who does that? Toyota acted like they were doing me a favor.
Love my Toyota, but agree that the Subaru has much better customer service.
If they ever actually match Toyota for reliability, I'd make the switch.
Yeah, customer service is hands down the best.
I love my 2019 gen 4 Prius. Best decision I've ever made
I put 275,000 miles on a Gen II Prius. Most reliable car I've ever owned. Front brakes went 100,000 miles before replacement. Rear drum brakes never needed replacement. Fluids, spark plugs, filters, suspension parts and tires were all it ever needed. The center display went blank, but it was rebuildable for 175 bucks, and takes less than 10 minutes to remove and replace. Amazingly reliable car.
Reliability scores for 3 to 5 years are interesting, but these problems are covered by standard warranty guarantees.
I want to see reliability scores that measures reliability over 10 to 20 years. Now that would tell you something useful !
Im sticking to my lexus n my toyota, buying another new lexus soon!!!!!!
I'm a Consumer Reports subscriber ("member" they call it), and I generally find them to be a valuable source of info. What I find unusual is that they are actually including 2025 model Foresters in this scoring, and that is a brand new redesign, and I can't imagine how they could have enough data already to include it, and it's the last three years of Forester and Impreza reliability that's the main reason Subaru as a brand out ranked Toyota. So they are ranking that whole brand based on basically only two models of that brand.
CR will do that on certain vehicles depending on the scope of the redesign. The 2025 Forester was more of a "refresh" and CR must have felt comfortable providing that rating.
The new forester is barely a new model. The drivetrains are the same. It’s mostly a chassis refresh.
Subaru uses the same motors across their lineup either a 2.5 or a 2.4 turbo . II have had 4 in the last 10 years and not 1 problem with. the engine or trans . no oil consumption but I follow a strict maintenance plan always dealership and oem fluids.
What they said above.. 2025 Forester essentially is same as 2014 in terms of powertrain. Actually even simpler, as turbo model has been discontinued since previous generation.
They got Subarus check!! If you want reliable get a Toyota if you are a lesbian get a Subaru
I find it hard to believe Subaru gets #1 spot with their CVT transmission failure issue. Would rather have a Honda or Toyota product.
Subaru is married cvts
That’s because they don’t have a CVT failure issue
@@kermit1 one day they will would rather get a nissan over a subaru
@@Venomoustoxins2122 the only transmissions I see failing are the 8 speed transmissions in the new Toyota Tacomas.
Oh and engine failures in the new Tundras? Yeah no thanks I’ll stick with Subie.
Subaru CVTs just need regular maintenance. You can't neglect them. Other than that, they'll last you decades and 200k+ miles easy
Had a Subaru and sold it for a Ford. Now thinking about going back to Subaru.
You'll have to change your user name here. :P
@@FordEnthusiast413 my uncle had a 2020 navigator and was worried about the cam phaser situation and I believe they’re running a wet belt for the oil pick up and he sold it and bought a brand new outback XT. He’s loving the Subaru more than he loved the Lincoln….
@@timbrown9731good going, those wet belts are bad news
I'll have to tell my brother sitting with his bricked transmission on a 170k mile outback 😅
To be fair, 170k miles tho...
@@CIRCLEDARK170k miles on a Subaru should be 30% in. Should live to 300-400k miles at least.
@@CIRCLEDARK ...is not impressive
CVT. I am looking to buy a 2018 Impreza Sport, but it has a manual transmission.
@@Michael-db4snCVT
Subaru has not beaten Lexus. That’s a bunch of BS. To the people that are reading the comments stick with Toyota Lexus. It’s the most reliable. JD power is the most BS list, they are paid to say which vehicles are most reliable. For many years, JD powers picked unreliable vehicle stating they were reliable.
You are correct, J.D. Powers is an advertising company...everything they say is influenced by the companies that employs them.
This is Consumer Reports and not JD Powers.
Step one: denial.
not anymore new ones have issues with turbo 4 cylinder engines
Mazda is reliably. I have Mazda6 2017 Touring woth 130k miles no issue.
Mazda is great, though, 130k is just getting warmed up compared to Toyota’s track record. Most Toyotas can easily hit 300k if routine maintenance was performed.
On my 3rd Modern Mazda since 2018, Mazda overall, and quality is top tier. Like top 3. Their paint looks much nicer than Subaru too. The CX5 SUV drives like a dream, 4 wheel independent suspension, AWD Turbo and the signature edition is feature packed. Most Mazdas are made in Japan super reliable, and comfortable luxury without looking too flashy.
2011 RAV 4 Limited V6. 155,000 miles. Sway bar replaced twice, and back struts. I consider the work nothing out of the ordinary. They no longer make the V6. The car is a jet. I love it.
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I'm glad to see you chose to use Consumer Reports owner data over JD power initial survey! I think Consumer Reports method of gathering data of over 300,000 owners for years of out of warranty ownership experiences is way better than JD power under warranty surveys!
I talked with a guy who does Rivian warranty work. He said that Rivian, being a new manufacturer, doesn’t allow enough space for wiring harness type stuff. So they get jammed together at the factory and often damage the contacts or the wiring.
Definitely interesting information. I think it would also be helpful to see the breakout on individual models- since many people are more concerned on the car they buy, with the brand probably secondary.
Toyota's involvement with Mazda and Subaru is really paying off with reliability.
@@JonathanPaulin Mazda's reliability skyrocketed when they split from Ford 10+ years ago. Their relationship with Toyota is recent and very, very limited. (Despite what Scotty Kilmer implies)
Toyota’s involvement is recent, Subaru’s reliability speaks for itself
@@chrisg5352 They collabed on cars for awhile now so I'm sure Subaru picked up some habits.
@@MaddNomad1015Subaru was already reliable before that. And the same for Toyota being that they’ve used engineering ideas from Subaru to produce the GR86
2018 Subaru Outback 3.6R owner here with 110,000 miles on it. Purchased new at the end of 2017 . No issues other than new battery and just replaced all tpms wheel sensors preventively as I had one sensor go bad. Batteries in those wheels sensors only last so long. Love the 3.6R 6 cylinder engine with heavy duty CVT transmission. Scheduled maintenance is the key to keep any car running properly long term. BTW, also have Mini Coopers, BMW X4, and owned 3 Ford F150 trucks ( 2001, 2018, 2021) My Ford trucks were by far the least reliable. Major oil consumption issues in the 2018 and 10 speed transmission issues in the 18 and 21. Regardless of brand, you better make sure you have a dealer and service department that you like nearby.
Good for Subaru. I think Mazda should’ve won though.
Subaru does have a hybrid and a plug in. The Crosstrek. EVs do require regular maintenance. Tesla requires fluid and filter changes.
Give me a break. Everyone has conflicting opinions because everyone needs a channel to talk about something.
Mazda is testing Lexus for the title
Pretty much all German brands are unreliable piles of crap in the USA. BMW being one the worst, the fact it is in the top ten, really has me questioning this list.
BMW is probably one of the better of the German brands, which are all not-so-good reliability-wise.
The only reliable component on a BMW, if installed, is a B58.
But that’s it.
You're forgetting that Land Rover exists 😂😂
I'll still take a Mazda, thank you....
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How about a 2025 Mazda CX-50? Best of both worlds.
Can’t beat fun, reliable and nice design at an affordable cost
I have that. @@terrancecloverfield6791
@@terrancecloverfield6791Mazyota CXRav450 🤔
The detailed information that showed model years from 2000 - 2024 plus 2025 is referring to CR's general practice of scoring reliability. If you read the blurb on the side of the graph showing all the brands that is the subject of this video, it states clearly that "the brand reliability score was calculated by averaging results from 2022 to 2024, and some early 2025 data for each brand". Make no mistake, this ranking is reliability for very new vehicles - vehicles that are all under warranty. I really don't understand how this is useful. What is interesting is how reliable vehicles that are OUT of warranty are.
Doesn't Subaru use the same transmission and more or less 2 engines for their whole lineup
They are the most boring cars on the market and their redesigns are the most conservative where hardly anything changes which makes their redesigns very reliable while Toyota has started to make more drastic redesigns instead of conservative redesigns like they did before which has dropped their reliability score
@@chezzyperson3339 Without splitting hairs, technically Mitsubishi makes the most boring cars on the market. Followed closely by Chrysler.
So? Subaru is the best most vfm cars on market more features for cheaper than any overpriced toyota. And 180hp is enough for daily driving.
@@AlexAlex-gs1xh sure if we're talking about value...to which we aren't
@@chibbyylol even they are reliable the new ones the recalls of toyota and lexus are proof and toyota just recalled about 70 2024 rav 4 and lexus nx for brake and wheels that can fall of due to loose nuts now explain what u mean.
I have had both Subarus and Lexus.I would say I had 0 issues with my Subaru and 1 small oil leak on my Lexus
G'day it's Steven from down under again
I'm allways interested in Kirk's views and opinions, however this Consumer Report reliability ranking seems "unreliable" and inaccurate in my opinion, and has no credibility.
I completely agree with your comments, you're always unbiased and factual.
Furthermore as a Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross PHEV owner my experience has been extremely positive to date, I have no issues whatsoever and we're already planning to upgrade to the 2025 Outlander PHEV in a few months when the facelifted model is released here, apparently it has a number of additional new features including larger battery capacity and extended range.
Looking forward to your eventual review of this humble and quiet achiever.
Furthermore it appears that Mitsubishi may be releasing a serious sports variant of the Outlander PHEV in RALLIART form, could this be true??
I think CR and JD power can make better new surveys that breaks reliability concerns down by powertrain, interior electronics, etc. There is a lot of spread in reliability within a brand based on the model. Maybe they can rank these surveys based on model as well to give consumers a little bit more information?
I've owned two Subarus. One had transmission failure, the other had the infamous head gasket failure. Never again. Driving a Mazda CX-70 now after trading in a CX-5 with 225k miles on it without any serious issues ever. Best car I ever owned.
Kirk but aren’t Subaru boxer engines notorious for having problems?
I have a Toyota Tacoma (17) and a Subaru Outback (18) both have been very reliable vehicles. The Outback has oil consumption issues which I find troubling and if you ask the dealer they say it’s in the normal range. Both vehicles have over 100000 miles but now I’m looking to replace the Subaru with a RAV4 with the regular engine.
Don't forget about the Toyota Corolla Cross. It's just a little smaller than the RAV4
Hope you are a small person. I tried (6"1') sitting in a rav 4 and wanged my head trying to sit down in its' little cave of a drivers seat.
As long as Toyota is better than ford. Good enough for me. My 20 Tundra is very reliable. Even the famous fuel consumption is reliable
Good points, BUT IMHO Yoda fell off after '20; as soon as Tundra got V6=JUNK
@@pjsneeringer5942 i cannot disagree. Ditching nice v8 and v6 engines was a huge mistake.
Love that 5.7L V8 in my Lexus LX Land Cruiser. Indeed, a very thirsty engine.
@@asplmn Two choices.. .pay at the pump or at the service centre...its that simple
And I'll still buy Toyota. Subaru are better than many others. Worked on the tools since 1986 on ALL brands of cars, I'll stick Toyota brand ( inc Lexus ).
Kirk, Form is temporary but class is permanent. Stick with Toyota/Lexus for reliability. When the annual list comes out, it should always be posted side by side with 10 year average reliability rankings to see where anomalies pop up. CR can't get sufficient data on those other brands because their members have wisely stopped buying them .😉
Perception is why they are the best selling automaker in the world and will keep growing no matter what unless Chinese EVs come how takeover the world but that’s a slight chance and CR also has used car car reliability ratings and they have Lexus at 81 and Toyota at 74, and Mazda at 63
explain the recalls and issues with new Toyota engines then
Subaru is all CVT. Hard to imagine over 100k miles they are reliable.
Only when given expensive fluid changes. And it's still unlikely to reach 250k.
@@0HOON0expensive fluid changes? How much are you paying for Transmission flush and fill?
@@kbenti $300 for just the OEM fluids if you have the tools to do it yourself.
It's $500+ for the dealer to service it.
There is supposedly an approved aftermarket fluid available now but I used OEM to protect my warranty.
@@0HOON0 you're paying too much. I got my transmission Fill and Flushed for less than $300.
Subaru sorted out the gasket issue almost 15 years ago. The reality is turbos are expensive to replace. If you don't keep your vehicle over 100k it's not likely to be a problem. After that it's a waiting game. It won't be like the bulletproof V6 and V8 days.
So, what you're saying is the newer subarus don't have a widespread issue with it draining oil anymore? Good to know
There are only three manufacturers I would give money to right now. Mazda, Subaru and Toyota. If I intended to keep any of them over 100k I wouldn't touch anything with a turbo. @@alanyoung159
@@alanyoung159They don't consume oil like they did before. However, the oil consumption isn't an issue if you use the right oil in the older cars.
I own a Toyota sienna 2005 and a subaru forestor 2016.both bought new.sienna has 270 thouand miles on it.the subaru 157 thousand miles.
I spent a lot more money on the subaru in 9 years of ownership than I spent on the toyota in almost 20 years.
Not even close,the toyota is by far more reliable.
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Yeah, but a Minivan is a cruiser, most people will abuse the Subaru more. Minivan to SUV is a bad comparison.
You said exactly what I was thinking. Subaru has no hybrids, are so basic and boring that there's not much to go wrong. I'm not shocked they ranked high.
I've driven Toyota since 2000 and am sticking with Toyota. Scotty Kilmer just bought a 2025 Camry and I'm looking to do the same. I suspect Toyota got dinged because of some of the problems that they had with trucks recently. I would stick with Toyota Corolla, Camry, Prius and RAV4.
Mazda should be like number 2 . Subaru should be closer to below Honda
If I’m not mistaken CR tributes problems with infotainment systems as contributors to a cars reliability.
Yeah, and I own 2 Subarus, they have terrible infotainment system.
So, that means that the vehicle overall must just be that good.
Es350 2014 n daily es330 04 owner here nothing more reliable then Lexus trust me . I drive both n other then reg maintenance flawless .
Most of the American companies are below the top 10 lol shocker
Not suprising toyota, honda are in the top 5
Toyota/Lexus all day
Except Tundra
I would disagree on both accounts. I had both which had something called unintended acceleration and let me tell you, it was not a nice thing.
Nothing beats a Lexus 😇🙏
@@bensontekthat was a looong time ago now, and they had recalled those vehicles and fixed them. No company is perfect.
If you have unintended acceleration today, you got some fat foot diabetes issues.
That, or you’re just a drunk.
Either way, get checked.
Don’t blame the car.
I kind regret buying a Subaru. My 2016 Forester bought since new. I’ve nothing but issues just recently I got my cam carrier reseal after it had huge oil leak. Tbh I would’ve do lease instead keep Subaru no over 5-6+ years
I have a 2016 Legacy 3.6R, not a single issue.
I just looked at the reliability scores for the Subaru Forester over the years. The pre 2019 Foresters were unreliable. Since the 2019 redesign the Forester reliability has improved greatly.
Will be nice to have a list of specific cars reliability....
@@Heroes-lr2vo There is. There's a tab to the right of the brand that lists the reliability of vehicles they have data for.
Toyota owns part of Subaru and Mazda so still big win for them.
But not a majority stake.
A significant stake nonetheless, and enough to influence.
I have a Subaru Forester 2010 with no problems since new.
Sweet thumbnail. Keep it up
My 2015 Mazda 6 GT made in Japan has been THE MOST RELIABE car I’ve ever owned and my 2013 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 TRD-OFF ROAD has been THE MOST RELIABLE TRUCK I’ve ever had, with absolutely zero issue since day 1! I still own both vehicles and I LOVE THEM!!! 👍👍👍
Same with my Mazda3 GT 2017. 160k miles so far with nothing outside of basic maintenance. Only a speaker went static and replaced a brake switch that my friend broke. Lol
I agree. My 2014 Mazda 6 GT, which I purchased April 2013, most reliable car I ever owned. Just routine maintenance, and I had to repair Bose speaker surrounds in front doors.
My land cruise lc100 was the most reliable vehicle I’ve ever owned. After lifting it tires spacers, leds ect it was looking mean. It was stolen this summer. And I miss it so much.
WELCOME TO THE Korean Automotive Era!!!
The problem with this kind of traclomg is that you need to go back many years to get an idea of reliability, but car tech has changed so much that the only thing that is going to tell you is how reliable those old cars are. You can put Toyota near the top of this list, but that isn't going to make current Tundra owners feel any better about needing a full engine replacement. We're definitely trying to predict the future using past performance when past performance is based on different vehicles.
Would be shocked if 2000-2024 Alfa Romeo ends up orange-red as suggested. Their historic rep is terrible, but they made a (IMO successful) effort to build better cars during this time frame. I have imported 159 3.2 Q4 here in Canada, absolute flawless tank that I trust to take me to the mountains every weekend.
Kirk, Here in Boston MA I would say Toyota Corolla's are the BEST & Ford F-250's [Snow plow] They're Everywhere 😊!!
I’ve driven literally many more than a million miles. We usually buy new cars and drive them till they’re finished. Without question the best cars we have had have been Mazdas. All without problems till more than 200 k miles. Hyundais have been terrible and Subarus have had major problems long before 200k
Subarus given the right attention will last more than 200K miles without any major issues. Yes, Mazda can do that without much effort, but it's an inferior design in every performance marker.
It's Mazda, right?
As a longtime subaru fan, I'm SHOCKED seeing Subaru at the top!!! I live in PA where not only do i see em a lot, i've had a ton of em in the family! They always had issues. Usually burning oil and crappy CVT transmissions. what sorcery is this????
2008 Honda pilot with 150,000 miles . Just regular maintenance and the best feature is a 6 disc cd chaanger 😂
Basic is best and just do internal. tweeks to engines and transmissions has served Subaru well . Also look at issues as weighted , I'll take a laggy screen over a major engine or transmission issue any day.
toyotas that use the newer smaller turbo engines arent that reliable anymore. theres still some toyotas that use the older 2.5 engines, some lexuses that use the 2gr v6 and v8
New smaller turbo engines from Toyota are very much reliable like always. Only the tundra had issues . Even then they are replacing every single recalled tundra engine. So that issue is very much sloved. Even so called great v8s/v6s from Toyota were extremely unreliable at the start before they got fixed. Stop overreacting.
@ i would still go for the bigger naturally aspirated engines. turbos make a car less reliable.
@@chiiiiweeeee you can go for anything and its perfectly fine. But in this day and age turbo engines are very much reliable and miles better than any na V6 or whatever.
I've saw an auto repair shop video the other day that listed the most reliable vehicles they service, and Toyota wasn't their top one either, but he said that's because people tend to keep their Toyotas for much longer, so, yes, an 18-year-old Toyota is going to have more issues than an 8-year-old Subaru.
If I want to buy a toaster, I’ll check out CR.
I take their auto ratings with a grain of salt. They have always been Subaru fans.
Regardless of what surveys you see, when it comes to GM< you will find that the Cadillac Escalade and the Chevy Corvette are the most reliable GM cars. They have the least problems because GM cares the most about those two models. They are the cash cows for the company. If they go down, GM goes down
Subaru is very well built and have lots of cross compatibility in parts. This keeps costs down and simplifies manufacturing, reducing costs. Due to the boxer engine, long term maintenance gets more expensive. A decent amount of normal repair requires the engine to be unmounted and dropped. Well worth it if you keep good maintenance or if you are capable with a wrench.
Subaru with CVT??
My four year old 21 Yota Rolla hatch 6mt has been 100% reliable so far. I'm seeing more complaints in the Corolla forms with the 2024-2025 despite it being the same gen since 2019 in the States.
Why does any one still paying attention to CR
They used to be #1. 😢 About 20 years ago.
Thanks for the video. I don’t see how Subaru is top reliability. They are good in the 1st 5 years or 50k miles after that they start having engine problems.
There is a video from CR staff talking about this and they even say that they expect this will be fleeting. As Kirk said, few powertrain options or changes from Suburu and that's what allowed them to rise in the standings. Toyota has introduced several new engines (Honda too) and it takes a while to work bugs out. That's why they've dropped.
My 2010 Prius is most reliable and maintenance free car I have ever owned. My Toyota '79 4x4 pickup and '98 4-runner were also pretty darned good. I still see lot's of very old Toyotas on the road and they still look good. Other brands, not so much. To me Lexus is really Toyota. In 2025, I am thinking of getting a Subaru, hopefully one of their new hybrids, hopefully a PHEV.
Go subie!!!❤️
Missing brands means missing data means insufficient ranking
I’m surprised Subaru is at the top. Mine seems to have a new recall on a yearly basis.
New Subarus are much better than older Subarus from the 2000s and early 2010s
Recalls aren't a bad thing. It means they're at least fixing issues.
Because you haven't seen the recalls on the other brands.
really surprising they don't have enough data to rank Mercedes-Benz...seems fishy given the anecdotal nightmare stories of Mercedes-Benz reliability as of late. Not having enough data on Porsche is more understandable given the survey is 2000-2024.
If the Toyota mirai was included.. that definitely hurt the Toyota score.
They should really go back 10 years to get a more realistic number on how reliable vehicle are.
They went back 24 years
Why should they if they’re wanting to see who’s the most reliable ‘new’ car brand. Brands can change a lot over a decade
@@chibbyylol They are NOT doing this for only "new" cars. They did it for 300,000 cars from 2000-2024.
Hybrids, particularly Toyota ones, are among the most reliable cars. Back in the early 2010's, the Prius was rated the #1 most reliable car (NOT just hybrid car) by the TUV-Report, Germany's reliability testing program. Unlike Consumer Reports and JD Power, which are based on owner-submitted surveys and thus subject to recall bias, TUV is a nuts-and-bolts, hands-on program conducted by certified mechanics. In Germany, your car has to be examined every few years in this program to maintain registration, and the fault rates are entered into a database. Then the cars are ranked in terms of the number of problems, with the fewest-number cars getting ranked at the top. Autobild praised the Prius, noting that despite its "complex hybrid powertrain", it performed perfectly.
It's too bad the US doesn't have an objective system like TUV. Well, in some ways we do. Priuses are a favorite of taxi drivers because they last a long, long time--even on the pothole-ridden roads of New York. It's not uncommon to have a Prius cab logging 300,000+ miles, even with city, start and stop driving. That itself is pretty good evidence for hybrid reliability.
The new over stressed 4 cyl hybrids are a disaster in trucks. Trucks and SUVs are crushing Toyotas reliability now
@@myauctionaddictionestatesa7451 new turbo I4 and hybrid turbo I4 in the Tacoma has been a very reliable engine without any serious issues whatsoever. Stop creating non existing issues about a perfectly fine vehicle or engine. If anything its only the tundra had issues. 👎
Not really, you can't depend on consumer reports. Toyota has long been synonymous with reliability, Subaru's recent advancements and consumer feedback suggest a potential shift in this dynamic. As automotive technology and consumer expectations evolve, these rankings may continue to change, reflecting the ongoing competition between these two brands.
GMC say " We are professional Grade" Can anyone explain to me what that mean?
Just a company slogan to sound cool.
that means if you drive a GMC, you better have a business to write off the repair bills.
I got a couple buddies that work for my Mitsubishi dealer as a tech a parts guy. The new Outlanders are virtually probably free other than the initial recalls for the hood and very minor issues with interior pieces.
The other vehicles in their lineup are also reliable as well. The only real issue that they tend to deal with is CVT issues which isn't an surprise. They advocate to their customers with CVTs on scheduled fluid changes recommended by the manufacturer to help reduce issues though.
They use jatco Nissan cvts
The outlander is build in the same factory that makes Nissan rogues. They're the same car, just that Mitsubishi uses a plug in hybrid drivetrain.
I have a 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander that I purchased in March 2018, nothing has failed or gone wrong with 75K mileage, they gave me a 10 year warranty on the powertrain as standard, every unit comes with that. However mine has a V6 natural and a standard 6 speed transmission no CVT, the highest trim level made in Japan. This car flew under the radar in its day. It was the only company offering 0% financing for their higher end models at the time, for 5 years. All other companies advertise a low rate but then when you want to buy the higher trim level or extend the years of payment they jack it up, I hate that deceptive marketing. Also with a non-turbo model I only have to change my oil once a year, which saves me money. I once went to change my oil at six months and the mechanic says I got to be honest your oil is full and clean save your money, showed me the dip stick to prove it. Synthetic oil goes a whole year in this engine. Glad I got it.
About 15K used now, if your looking to save money on a used vehicle and it still has a warranty on the powertrain that is transferable.
@@andersonrodriguez8258 Both of them need to abandon CVTs in general.
@@BackToTheGame.98 Incorrect....the Outlander is built in a Mitsubishi factory's. Nissan builds their X-trail (Rouge in Japan) in their factory's. The Rouges are built at the Nissan Tennessee factory.
Other than the chassis platform, motor, transmission and some parts like the gear selector and infotainment system, they are different. AWD systems are different, suspension and steering tuning is different, interior space is different etc etc.
I don't believe Subaru is reliable, family member has a new Forester and the transmission is going at 14k miles. Friend of mine had 3 transmission replacements in his Subaru before 50k miles. It's unfortunate but my father is a mechanic and he taught me better than buying one.
What do you mean by the transmission is “going”. Is it fully dead?
@cecilthecavetroll9743 no but it slips, shudders and cant stay in gear properly when driving up hill.
Stuff happens sometimes, you get the short straw but it's the frequency. For every Subaru owner that has your story there are dozens of GM owners with that same story.
@ that kind of just sounds like a CVT doing CVT things
@cecilthecavetroll9743 exactly, and that's 90% of what Subaru sells so I don't understand how they can be reliable when they're all ticking time bombs
As a mechanic I have no issues with this list. The only thing that I will say about Subaru, is there 4 cylinders do have a tendency to blow head gaskets. However, I wouldn't worry about it until it hits 90 to 100,000 miles. Of course, not all of them will.
How can you know 2024 or 2025 cars are reliable? To be able to prove whether a car reliable you must wait at least 10 years and or 200 k miles.
My 1999 harrier with 465,000 is still going strong ,soft as always and quiet also taking into account it that the road conditions in my country are so terrible.A Toyota is still a Toyota at the end of the day