I hope at some point you are an old man looking out over the hills of Montana realizing how you have inspired others to get their hands dirty and build something.
I think it’s freaking awesome that you have a collaboration between a veteran, experienced blacksmiths and someone new to Damascus. Especially for such amazing but declining trades, it’s the only way it will stay alive.
If you continue improving in blacksmithing at a steady and fast velocity you will become peerless. A relationship with God is the source of this phenomenon.
You people have no idea you are lost. The idea for forming and forging is for strength it has never beed for looks the look is secondary to the function the look is only associated with the function. nature natural is artisans guide the natural layering id the reinforcement in the rings of a tree the sedimentary layers like watching BMW put a wheel on a roof and making statements to justify it...The only reason to forge steel and add alloying elements is for strength...Make a katana grade steel and it will develop its own grain structure based on the strongest structure tensile strength ductility hardness etc i haven't done metallurgy in over 25 years but this is annoying watching modern process to make old ways and not only is it cheating it just looks like random squiggles by kids who are no different than a heavily tattoos woman or man... develop process document test and the best process is the creation of a Steel. name the steel. That is the science of metallurgy makle it a latin name as latin is Phonecian and the speech pattern before god confounded man's speech... Strength=Vi tempered=ingenium Eternal=Aeternus power=potentia English is german origin later added french for food and Agricultural Nomeclature and latin for law and science which is greek variation and mix...
Just so you know Will, you and Alec inspired me to go for it with the blacksmithing I had been wanting to do and suffice to say I’m freaking doing it. Love your content
So how long till you make the Zulu spear that's on your chalkboard wall? Copper or silver go-mai pattern would be sweet, and no one else has done it in a spear design and you could use your excellent filing and carving skills on an elaborate shaft
There are a lot of cool people on this planet, for me Steve is up there. An incredible wealth of knowledge in that head of his. Don’t wanna be a multimillionaire sports athlete in this life but I sure wouldn’t mind being a happily married, whiskey drinking, cigar smokin’ blacksmith like Steve. Much love to you all
I can understand why a lot of people don’t do Jelly Roll Damascus. But in all seriousness, keep up the good work, and hopefully you can make a good project out of it.
That jelly roll pattern reminds me of the movie Dark City and the madman's wall of scribbles. 🤯 Plus, it would be an intriguing pattern for a chef's knife! 🤔
Will going across the entire nation to showcase so many skilled people’s skills. It’s just so cool that a young Will is always earnest to learn from others to be the best he can be. Love it!
I was thinking that a really nice explosion pattern would look pretty cool in the middle of that bar. Another thought for the next time you do a Jelly Roll Damascus, instead of starting with a basic piece of high carbon round bar for the centre, you could start with a round piece of Damascus in whatever design you choose. My last thought is that a machine for making jelly roll Damascus would fit in your shop really nicely 😊👍👍👍👍
Awesome project, always a pleasure to see Steve on one of your videos! I am actually glad that the billet turned out a bit wonky because we all know you're going to come up with a brilliant solution to fixing it, and we will get to have our minds blown by your comedic and mechanical genius. I everything always went to plan, how would we learn anything?
It's such an interesting shift on what you notice when watching videos when you start making them... Where did you get the giant chalk boards?? That makes such a good backdrop! I need to up my background game on my videos... Thanks for the great content! You, Alec, and Blackbear Forge are my channel inspirations.
This is insane again make a tough tempered steel and create a brand and follow a procedure temp carbion steel aloying elements timing quenching tempering Anealing bla bla bla go watch how katana steel is made to day then go watch how german steel mills operate..Timing control etc.... make a name not a youtube channel that will be forgotten and make it non profit make a society that make the same steel...
Because of this video, I just took a class with Mr Steve. He has an incredible amount of wisdom and knowledge. And as long as you want to learn you will learn tons. So, thank you Mr Will for giving me the final push to go take a class.
Alec Stelter.....I mean Will Steele....shit. Damn it. What kind of Whiskey and cigars did you bring the nice folks of Florida? I'm a whiskey cigar and forging fan myself.
I can't wait to go down and spend some time with Steve. He's an amazing guy and a wealth of knowledge. Laura is so talented and an absolute sweetheart as well!
When rotating the "Jelly Roll", I though of whether clockwise or counter-clockwise "opens up" the spiral, or "closes it up". Perhaps, think of "winding up a spring" as it is pressed, may work.
I remember watching a blacksmithing video were the crafstman explained the compression of a round shape under hammer blows in a 90 degree V-block die is hard to control. Too much downward squeeze and not enough sideways squeeze. The correct die for successful consolidation forging of round to round is done in a 60 degree v-block. I cannot remember who did the video, but I do remember that it was someone of significant experience and standing. This piece of information, if true, might assist in your jellyroll forging work. Keep on forging
Aight, random idea here, do some kind of damascus like a facing W roll, make it square maybe twist it with the twisting tongs don't square it back up but make it as straight as possible. Take the twisted part to the lathe and turn it to cylindrical, drill a hole through your jelly roll to accept this round, having taken the minimum of material necessary to remove the cold shut/inclusion you had. or maybe more depending on how it looks when finished. Forge the two together, paying attention to the bias of your inner damascus pattern? It has been a long time since I saw a man make jellyroll, but I think you take and cut it into slices then forge weld the slices together lengthwise... that part is on you. just my idea.
you should really start a shooting channel. Lord knows you could do some cool collabs with guys like hop, brass facts, and garand thumb. they're all in the PNW
try 3, since commenting easily is a joke or something 7:04 this is just from rolling up paper as school n shit so it may not work the same for hot sticky metal but go the other way, you were going towards the edge of the roll/shee/bar, which puts pressure back along the sheet pushing more "space" into it/ towards the core making the roll less tight other way should reduce the space between each layer and unify each layer too again never metal worked in any sense besides filing so take that thought process as you will but please know it was not intended to be nor from a negative place c:
hopefully im gonna start my first ever damascus project this summer, unfortunately i dont have anyone to show me or work with i just gotta give er a go. just hammer and anvil too, no power tools. might be rough.
A carpenter a painter and a blacksmith walk into a bar. The carpenter orders a gallon of whiskey and says "I made a custom oak barrel to finish aging this in." The painter orders a gallon of vodka and says, "I use this to clean my equipment with." The blacksmith orders a gallon of beer and immediately pulls his pants down and starts t-bagging it. Everyone yells "What are you doing?" The blacksmith looks over and calmly says, "I'm quenching my steel!"
Can confirm it will grow back. I’ve ran fingers across a jointer and took half inch off one. It grew completely back. You’ll just get called 9 and 3/4 for a while.
There are but they don't go everywhere. Remember plenty of states are way larger then many European countries. Imagine living in a small town in Germany like 30,000 people and traveling to a small town in Spain population 15,000...its not as easy going from say Frankfurt to Berlin..most railways in USA are freight. And passenger trains here are also SLOW..
Sheet metal forming presses kind of work similar to the forging press. I've seen some of those sheet metal presses form complex shapes by using dies that move from the pressing action. When the press comes down on the bottom die, the bottom die will move down and catch dies on the sides causing them to fold in and press the sheet metal from all 4 sides at the same time. I've often wondered if forging dies could work the same way. A hot piece of damascus or canister damascus could be pressed from all 4 sides to set the welds.
I have always wondered if acid would work. I'm sure I missed someone else saying it, but you're the first person I've heard mention it. Good luck fixing the weld. Thanks for sharing 👍.
You know, I may be alone in this... But I would love a documentary/series of just metal craftsmen, sharing tips, tricks, stories and hanging out like this... Sadly missing today!
Another great video Will. Great to see the channel growing, you’re super talented and inspired me to start my own blacksmithing journey. I even made my first ever Damascus (twist) knife last week (by hand, no power hammer or press). I’m super proud and would never have done it without your inspiration!! Keep up the good work!
That was an interesting process- watching the coil in the press, I kept thinking, that is going to de-laminate like crazy. I am really curious to see what the pattern ends up looking like.
I know it would be crazy expensive, but it would be really neat to see forging in a zero oxygen environment. You would need to flood the room with argon, heat the metal with induction, and wear you own air tank the whole time.
You should document your travel on these trips. I think a lot of use would like to see you interacting with the rest of the world and enjoying these trips.
i always have wondered what you could do by cnc cutting two different patterns into each other like a puzzle. so you could insert a particular pattern into another Damascus billet that normally could not have that type of pattern
I hope at some point you are an old man looking out over the hills of Montana realizing how you have inspired others to get their hands dirty and build something.
With young kids just starting out coming to learn from him...
I think it’s freaking awesome that you have a collaboration between a veteran, experienced blacksmiths and someone new to Damascus. Especially for such amazing but declining trades, it’s the only way it will stay alive.
Looking forward to these "top secret" projects
I am sure that gap is why I do not see too many bladesmiths making jelly roll damascus, cool when they do do it though.
Good stuff. Love it.
Good job
Dude. That drive from Montana to Florida sucks (I know) hope your butt gets a lot of well deserved rest
More videos please 😅
If you continue improving in blacksmithing at a steady and fast velocity you will become peerless. A relationship with God is the source of this phenomenon.
👍👍🍻
You people have no idea you are lost. The idea for forming and forging is for strength it has never beed for looks the look is secondary to the function the look is only associated with the function. nature natural is artisans guide the natural layering id the reinforcement in the rings of a tree the sedimentary layers like watching BMW put a wheel on a roof and making statements to justify it...The only reason to forge steel and add alloying elements is for strength...Make a katana grade steel and it will develop its own grain structure based on the strongest structure tensile strength ductility hardness etc i haven't done metallurgy in over 25 years but this is annoying watching modern process to make old ways and not only is it cheating it just looks like random squiggles by kids who are no different than a heavily tattoos woman or man...
develop process document test and the best process is the creation of a Steel. name the steel. That is the science of metallurgy makle it a latin name as latin is Phonecian and the speech pattern before god confounded man's speech...
Strength=Vi
tempered=ingenium
Eternal=Aeternus
power=potentia
English is german origin later added french for food and Agricultural Nomeclature and latin for law and science which is greek variation and mix...
Just so you know Will, you and Alec inspired me to go for it with the blacksmithing I had been wanting to do and suffice to say I’m freaking doing it. Love your content
Good luck! Always learn and grow. I hope you have good fortune and fun on your journey!
@@TheMultiReplayers thank you so much, I’m already moving up in the world and I’m going to be getting my own shop soon 🤠
You should make a filet knife, it’d be interesting to see the tempering process to get the flexability
Would a zero atmosphere weld not be more suitable?
How many miles do you have on your truck and how long have you had it ?
So how long till you make the Zulu spear that's on your chalkboard wall? Copper or silver go-mai pattern would be sweet, and no one else has done it in a spear design and you could use your excellent filing and carving skills on an elaborate shaft
You could always twist the core
There are a lot of cool people on this planet, for me Steve is up there. An incredible wealth of knowledge in that head of his. Don’t wanna be a multimillionaire sports athlete in this life but I sure wouldn’t mind being a happily married, whiskey drinking, cigar smokin’ blacksmith like Steve. Much love to you all
What do a bunch of blacksmiths do when they get together?? Learn further abuses of Thier instruments....!!! 😮😅👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
THIS PROJECT IS BAS ASS CRAZY COOL WILL.S YOUR A LEDGION THE BLADES YOU MAKE ARE BAD ASS CRAZY 😎😎😎🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶SUB ZERO COOL
I always enjoy your videos, great work as always!
if you want to make jelly rolls more often maybe consider getting an induction forge, you could set it up so its really close to the rotation point.
I can understand why a lot of people don’t do Jelly Roll Damascus. But in all seriousness, keep up the good work, and hopefully you can make a good project out of it.
That jelly roll pattern reminds me of the movie Dark City and the madman's wall of scribbles. 🤯 Plus, it would be an intriguing pattern for a chef's knife! 🤔
Will going across the entire nation to showcase so many skilled people’s skills. It’s just so cool that a young Will is always earnest to learn from others to be the best he can be. Love it!
Jelly roll? Nah man, a better name would be Satan's cinnamon roll
Can you make jelly doughnut damascus? That way I can give it to the dog after he finishes his beer and still wants more...take off eh!!!
🍩🍩🍩🤣😂🤣
I was thinking that a really nice explosion pattern would look pretty cool in the middle of that bar. Another thought for the next time you do a Jelly Roll Damascus, instead of starting with a basic piece of high carbon round bar for the centre, you could start with a round piece of Damascus in whatever design you choose. My last thought is that a machine for making jelly roll Damascus would fit in your shop really nicely 😊👍👍👍👍
You guys need to start doing this every year. You guys can call it in Northwest quad state
Awesome project, always a pleasure to see Steve on one of your videos! I am actually glad that the billet turned out a bit wonky because we all know you're going to come up with a brilliant solution to fixing it, and we will get to have our minds blown by your comedic and mechanical genius. I everything always went to plan, how would we learn anything?
It's such an interesting shift on what you notice when watching videos when you start making them... Where did you get the giant chalk boards?? That makes such a good backdrop! I need to up my background game on my videos... Thanks for the great content! You, Alec, and Blackbear Forge are my channel inspirations.
7:00 that's a gaping hole at the center ...
This is insane again make a tough tempered steel and create a brand and follow a procedure temp carbion steel aloying elements timing quenching tempering Anealing bla bla bla go watch how katana steel is made to day then go watch how german steel mills operate..Timing control etc....
make a name not a youtube channel that will be forgotten and make it non profit make a society that make the same steel...
Because of this video, I just took a class with Mr Steve. He has an incredible amount of wisdom and knowledge. And as long as you want to learn you will learn tons. So, thank you Mr Will for giving me the final push to go take a class.
Alec Stelter.....I mean Will Steele....shit. Damn it. What kind of Whiskey and cigars did you bring the nice folks of Florida? I'm a whiskey cigar and forging fan myself.
I can't wait to go down and spend some time with Steve. He's an amazing guy and a wealth of knowledge. Laura is so talented and an absolute sweetheart as well!
When rotating the "Jelly Roll", I though of whether clockwise or counter-clockwise "opens up" the spiral, or "closes it up". Perhaps, think of "winding up a spring" as it is pressed, may work.
I remember watching a blacksmithing video were the crafstman explained the compression of a round shape under hammer blows in a 90 degree V-block die is hard to control. Too much downward squeeze and not enough sideways squeeze. The correct die for successful consolidation forging of round to round is done in a 60 degree v-block.
I cannot remember who did the video, but I do remember that it was someone of significant experience and standing. This piece of information, if true, might assist in your jellyroll forging work.
Keep on forging
Will, I thought you did jelly roll with Alec in the pirate cutlass. Wasn't that the first video with you and him? Or am I miss remembering?
Aight, random idea here, do some kind of damascus like a facing W roll, make it square maybe twist it with the twisting tongs don't square it back up but make it as straight as possible. Take the twisted part to the lathe and turn it to cylindrical, drill a hole through your jelly roll to accept this round, having taken the minimum of material necessary to remove the cold shut/inclusion you had. or maybe more depending on how it looks when finished. Forge the two together, paying attention to the bias of your inner damascus pattern? It has been a long time since I saw a man make jellyroll, but I think you take and cut it into slices then forge weld the slices together lengthwise... that part is on you. just my idea.
Looking forward to seeing how this looks etched
you should really start a shooting channel. Lord knows you could do some cool collabs with guys like hop, brass facts, and garand thumb. they're all in the PNW
New sub from Abom79..great video from your projects.
Sorry for being weird, but the thumbnail image for this video reminds me of the Eye of Sauron from the Lord of the Rings movies. :)
Good whiskey and cigars have pathed the way to many successful projects.
Obviously the best way to fill the gap in a jelly roll is with some jelly. I'm old fashioned, so I like grape.
Such a cool trip! How fortunate you can make a living doing something you love.
Speaking of food and damascus, what about a bacon damascus knife or kitchen cleaver?
So I’ve got to ask…was that delicious food finger food by chance? 😂
What a simple, brilliant idea. I only tried jelly rolls twice and decided it was my least favorite pattern weld. Might have to retry.
I go to Florida now and then to tour the vast fields of meth! :) (But seriously I had my martial arts training there)
Why not use a rosebud for heating for the jelly roll making machine?
Will your willingness to keep learning, and connections will bring you far in your craft.
Flux keeps the Oxygen out.
Negative. Flux dissolves and remove forge scale.
DAMN!! That roller mill works beautiful!!!!
I watched you when you collaborated with Alec Steal. I lost you when he went home.
Our egos push us. In a good way. That's great. Ya'll are awesome!
Admit it Will, you were running away from the snow to warm Florida!
is it possible to make damascus from steel tin cans from the grocery store?
You are correct Will, Montana is a beautiful place. I love it here.
Good video man!! Have you been to the Boston harbor tea shop in Bozeman?
love the videos..But come on these little 10 min clips has got to get some length to them...
Mmmm jelli
You need a big rosebud for the jelly role not a cutting tip
How long did it actually take to flatten it then roll it up?
What does the white powder help with? Is it borax?
Looks like a really neat process, although it does seem really time consuming as well
I love Steve so much, absolutely awesome guy
Her answer should have been because you are here now
when you making wootz steel?
was that a lighter that exploded on the roller?
Great content thanks for sharing
Like that Taco with the tent on it. That yor'n
Another marvelous video Will.
I'm a lil shocked about 'cigars' being included in your content....but that suits me.😁
Will has got some serious shoulders.
So much better than Alec Steele.
Awesome, stoked to see what y'all make with it.
Favorite channel
try 3, since commenting easily is a joke or something
7:04 this is just from rolling up paper as school n shit so it may not work the same for hot sticky metal
but go the other way, you were going towards the edge of the roll/shee/bar, which puts pressure back along the sheet pushing more "space" into it/ towards the core making the roll less tight
other way should reduce the space between each layer and unify each layer too
again never metal worked in any sense besides filing so
take that thought process as you will
but please know it was not intended to be nor from a negative place c:
test test
did this one make it through the "great yt filter"?
apparently
i dont believe itll last but better than the last 2
Just get on with the video
Now that's cool.
Awesome video!
hopefully im gonna start my first ever damascus project this summer, unfortunately i dont have anyone to show me or work with i just gotta give er a go. just hammer and anvil too, no power tools. might be rough.
Like really?
A carpenter a painter and a blacksmith walk into a bar. The carpenter orders a gallon of whiskey and says "I made a custom oak barrel to finish aging this in." The painter orders a gallon of vodka and says, "I use this to clean my equipment with." The blacksmith orders a gallon of beer and immediately pulls his pants down and starts t-bagging it. Everyone yells "What are you doing?" The blacksmith looks over and calmly says, "I'm quenching my steel!"
👍😁
👍
Can confirm it will grow back. I’ve ran fingers across a jointer and took half inch off one. It grew completely back. You’ll just get called 9 and 3/4 for a while.
I always hear about US you tubers driving long distance, are there no interstate passenger trains?
There are, and some people really enjoy taking the train while others just don't.
There are but they don't go everywhere. Remember plenty of states are way larger then many European countries. Imagine living in a small town in Germany like 30,000 people and traveling to a small town in Spain population 15,000...its not as easy going from say Frankfurt to Berlin..most railways in USA are freight. And passenger trains here are also SLOW..
Sheet metal forming presses kind of work similar to the forging press. I've seen some of those sheet metal presses form complex shapes by using dies that move from the pressing action. When the press comes down on the bottom die, the bottom die will move down and catch dies on the sides causing them to fold in and press the sheet metal from all 4 sides at the same time. I've often wondered if forging dies could work the same way. A hot piece of damascus or canister damascus could be pressed from all 4 sides to set the welds.
I have always wondered if acid would work. I'm sure I missed someone else saying it, but you're the first person I've heard mention it. Good luck fixing the weld. Thanks for sharing 👍.
You are awesome! I'm 41 and hobby blacksmith/bladesmith I would take a class from you anytime.
You know, I may be alone in this... But I would love a documentary/series of just metal craftsmen, sharing tips, tricks, stories and hanging out like this... Sadly missing today!
Another great video Will. Great to see the channel growing, you’re super talented and inspired me to start my own blacksmithing journey. I even made my first ever Damascus (twist) knife last week (by hand, no power hammer or press). I’m super proud and would never have done it without your inspiration!! Keep up the good work!
That was an interesting process- watching the coil in the press, I kept thinking, that is going to de-laminate like crazy. I am really curious to see what the pattern ends up looking like.
I know it would be crazy expensive, but it would be really neat to see forging in a zero oxygen environment. You would need to flood the room with argon, heat the metal with induction, and wear you own air tank the whole time.
You should document your travel on these trips. I think a lot of use would like to see you interacting with the rest of the world and enjoying these trips.
You should take a trip acrossed the pond and do a colab with Alec. I miss seeing you two work together.
i always have wondered what you could do by cnc cutting two different patterns into each other like a puzzle. so you could insert a particular pattern into another Damascus billet that normally could not have that type of pattern
Hey Will, that thumbnail picture gave me an idea. Use a cutting die to split the roll like a feather pattern.