How To Learn Languages Through Immersion (Japanese Part 4)

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  • Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
  • In this video I'm going to be answering some common questions related to learning languages (esp. Japanese) through immersion.
    This video is a part of my guide on how to learn Japanese (or any language):
    EPISODES
    - PART 1 (General Guide): • How to Learn Japanese ...
    - PART 2 (Anki): • How to Use Anki for Le...
    - PART 3 (Sentence Mining): • The ULTIMATE Guide to ...
    - PART 4 (Immersion): • How To Learn Languages... (This video)
    MUSIC:
    OSRS OST - Autumn Voyage
    OSRS OST - Shine
    OSRS OST - Jungly 1
    OSRS OST - Principality
    CHAPTERS:
    00:00 Immersion based learning
    00:46 Different types of immersion
    1:40 How to perform passive & active immersion
    2:15 How often should you look up words?
    3:02 How difficult should your immersion content be?
    3:30 Just immerse with what you enjoy/can put up with
    4:00 the actual hard part of immersion
    4:30 Immersion can be hard/boring at first
    5:07 The better you get, the more enjoyable immersion becomes
    5:40 The hard part is getting good enough to enjoy immersion
    6:10 Should you turn off Japanese subs for listening practice? (No)
    6:42 Your listening will improve if you use Japanese subtitles
    7:15 Hearing something wrong over and over again can make it hard to fix
    8:24 Having weak listening skills as a beginner is to be expected
    9:15 What kind of content should you use for immersion?
    9:45 Think for yourself
    10:15 Your Japanese is going to be fine if you get diverse input
    10:45 You are not others, others are not you
    11:15 Outro
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 233

  • @pyrogenic
    @pyrogenic 2 роки тому +132

    Even though these videos are likely not getting as much attention as you hoped, in my eyes this is some of your best work. I'll definitely be revisiting the series many times over, thank you

  • @animeedits3984
    @animeedits3984 2 роки тому +186

    Bro you're one of the massive reasons I started learning Japanese, I was heavily inspired and captivated of the language, I hope I can be like you someday(currently 1.3k words on the core 2k6k deck)
    Update: I'm currently 2.9k words now and also decided to learn individual Kanji's and learned 820 Kanji's individually.
    Update:(5/16/2023) I'm at 3.3k words now and expecting it to end next year then I'll immerse myself in grammar next. Thanks for the likes!

    • @Livakivi
      @Livakivi  2 роки тому +22

      Good luck!!

    • @Cats83747
      @Cats83747 2 роки тому +6

      Yea, around 2.5-3k in and it’s fun and cool how I can recognise words and things

    • @noice1006
      @noice1006 2 роки тому +1

      Nice, I'm around the same.

    • @Suzukixd89
      @Suzukixd89 2 роки тому +1

      I'm already in sentence mining and I wondering if I should stop using Anki and focusing entirely on immersion or not

    • @alexjustalexyt1144
      @alexjustalexyt1144 2 роки тому +2

      WOAH, 1.3k? When did you start? How many card do you learn a day?

  • @iyar220
    @iyar220 2 роки тому +30

    As for the "Should you turn off subtitles" question, there's an incredibly interesting science behind it! The eye's retina is actually an extension of the brain. About 30% of the cortex is dedicated to processing visual information! While only 3% of it is dedicated for hearing. Moreover, every optic nerve carries a million fibers(axons), while each auditory nerve carries a mere 30,000.

    • @ericksoaresbarretovaz
      @ericksoaresbarretovaz 11 місяців тому +1

      so you´re implying that the use of subs fruitless for language learning ?

    • @Jokervision744
      @Jokervision744 3 місяці тому

      @@ericksoaresbarretovaz nani?

  • @dakgull5238
    @dakgull5238 2 роки тому +40

    There’s so much bullshit out there in the language learning community, it’s so nice to finally find someone who actually knows what they’re talking about. It would of saved me sooo much time if I found your videos when I started a year ago.

    • @d0xter742
      @d0xter742 2 роки тому +6

      I don't know if it's bullshit persay, just different methods that people went by. When you look in hindsight at your path it's hard to say whether you made it due to or in spite of your methods. So the people that are giving bad advice are just giving the advice that they think will work because, however inefficient or efficient it was, it worked for them.

  • @SmartJapanHacks
    @SmartJapanHacks 2 роки тому +39

    Great tips! Immersion is really what helped me the most when learning Japanese. The more time you spend engaging with the language, the faster you will reach fluency. I don't think you need to necessarily spend hours everyday being immersed in the Japanese language though. For many people, that might just too difficult and they will fall off the wagon. It's better to stay consistent in the long run, rather than forcing yourself to be immersed in the language for hours a day, only to quit a week later.

    • @Radescha
      @Radescha Рік тому +1

      The problem with Japanese is that you need consistency + huge time commitments to get somewhere at least when we are talking about functioning as an adult. I wouldn't want to be a Japanese learner that can't read a novel after 5 years, but I guess you have a point that everyone has different goals.

  • @Aeroxima
    @Aeroxima 3 дні тому

    Some of that sounds a bit obvious in retrospect, but was stuff I hadn't really thought about directly, and was really good to hear.

  • @hugosundsten6867
    @hugosundsten6867 2 роки тому +57

    I really appreciate you taking your time making this series. It has helped me tons, thank you!

  • @atinyleaf5014
    @atinyleaf5014 2 роки тому

    Very helpful series. Thanks for making this! Loved every video.

  • @alexjp3594
    @alexjp3594 2 роки тому

    really nice video and nice series in total! Keep it up mate

  • @kikolektrique1737
    @kikolektrique1737 2 роки тому

    I’m so thankful for such an amazing channel and you who created it. Just can’t stress enough

  • @jetesouhaitepleindebonheur
    @jetesouhaitepleindebonheur 2 роки тому

    I was waiting for that video, all the part was very interesting 👌🏻 thanks for that

  • @beefling5390
    @beefling5390 Рік тому +1

    This series of videos has so much value! SO GOOD GREAT JOB!

  • @AceOfSpades_211
    @AceOfSpades_211 2 роки тому

    This series was great man! Well done and here's to more success hopefully coming your way. Migaku has been super helpful since your last video too!

  • @sangheilizealot5787
    @sangheilizealot5787 Місяць тому

    I just love your videos they are so inspiring

  • @juliacoty2821
    @juliacoty2821 2 роки тому +1

    Really love this series! I'm trying to incorporate more of your techniques to help freshen up my language learning. 감사합니다!

  • @gyattrizzV
    @gyattrizzV 2 роки тому +3

    The channel Comprehensible Japanese has a nice playlist for very low level immersion

  • @williamadams7136
    @williamadams7136 2 роки тому +4

    Your point about goals at the end of the video is spot on!

  • @CarlCabralEntertainment
    @CarlCabralEntertainment 3 дні тому

    wonderful series

  • @HomeworkFM
    @HomeworkFM Місяць тому

    This series is highly recommended, I would have been lost without a video series like this. Thanks!!!

  • @ClowdyHowdy
    @ClowdyHowdy 2 роки тому +4

    Great video! I think this series will help a lot of people get into language learning.

  • @max89109
    @max89109 Місяць тому

    i love you man keep posting 🙏🏻😭🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

  • @Awt-ne-he
    @Awt-ne-he Рік тому

    This has became very useful to me now thank you

  • @Igirisu
    @Igirisu 2 роки тому +1

    Such a good series of videos, very in depth and beginner friendly for those looking into learning through immersion - I really like the points you made about early immersion feeling so frustrating because of how uncomprehensible it is

  • @KxmpleteKxllapse
    @KxmpleteKxllapse 2 роки тому

    Thank you for this in depth guide. I had watched other guides and I needed one with more visual examples to really help me so I can start. I knocked out kana a while ago but didnt know really what to do for immersion and learning Kanji. My eyes and head hurt from watching soooo many things lmao thank you so much!

  • @FantasyJared
    @FantasyJared Рік тому +1

    Thanks so much for making this series! Currently on my 10th day of learning Japanese because of you. I read through Tofugu's articles covering Hiragana and Katakana using Mnemonics, and just finished my first Anki session using the 6k deck. You're amazing!

  • @mephistopheles1512
    @mephistopheles1512 2 роки тому

    The amount of work you put in vs the views is honestly unfair, but you have helped many people including me, keep doing you my guy!

  • @ziaahmad8738
    @ziaahmad8738 2 роки тому

    I have just watched first part and have not started learning yet. Need to make a proper schedule of my everyday life but thanks a lot for completing this series.

  • @fridgefrys
    @fridgefrys 2 роки тому

    thanks for the guide, and can we just acknowledge the editing of these videos

  • @2Jeffrey
    @2Jeffrey 8 місяців тому +1

    this video was great ありがとう 😀

  • @joaopedrorabeloaraujo3964
    @joaopedrorabeloaraujo3964 2 роки тому

    Omg, I loved your tips!!! Even tho I'm learning Spanish, I think most of it aplies to any language, thank you

  • @san9613
    @san9613 2 роки тому +1

    Your videos inspired me to pick up Japanese as well! I've been on this journey for about half a year now, doing it daily. Thank you very much for taking you time to make these guides for other language learners!
    ありがとうね!
    ขอบคุณมากมากครับ

  • @mantequillaplastico
    @mantequillaplastico 2 роки тому +1

    Waaa thank you so much for this series♡ made me re think how I was learning Japanese, what are my goals and this video just cleared the most important part for me hahaha I have been fighting myself if watch the most boring (but in theory better) content ever or just anime. I'm going to keep doing anki and focus on silly anime from now on, and sometimes look up words and consume actual learning content but mostly focus on my own enjoyment.
    Thanks for reminding me how and putting in words what I actually did for learning English in the first place hahaha (I'm a native spanish speaker).
    Anyways, good video. I'm so happy to see how well your journey is going and having you share your whole experience, truly inspirational.

  • @person880
    @person880 2 роки тому +2

    Well done! I will revisit this series in the future. It's quite valuable to hear about the pain and progress of someone who went through the process. I feel like all the advice you gave is advice you wish you got when you first started learning Japanese, and not just generic advice like "try your best" lol. I think this is what makes it worth a lot.
    You also utilized a lot of software and I'm sure many people will find them useful as they seem to reduce the amount of work necessary to quickly learn new words.
    Thanks!

  • @euginarex5649
    @euginarex5649 2 роки тому +1

    I was learning Japanese at the summer of 2021 but, when the time passed by, I was losing motivation. But after watching your videos, I finally started to learn again. Even better this time, because I now have a proper setup and know what exactly to do. Thank you a lot!

  • @Nil-js4bf
    @Nil-js4bf Рік тому +4

    You are spot on getting over the initial barrier with immersion to consume content that actually interests you. I remember that's how I started my journey. I read Tae Kim's grammar guide and then immediately started reading a VN with an automatic dictionary lookup tool. In the beginning, I was looking up every word and piece of grammar and understanding each sentence was more like a logic/maths problem. It gets better quite fast though (say after a month of consistent effort). Some people pick up vocab naturally during this process but I found that I needed to consciously try to memorize it with Anki to see much more rapid progress with vocab. Starting with the 2/6k deck is good since there's 0 effort to create the deck. Getting a sentence mining process going can come after that. So many people get trapped by boring themselves to death with dry content like traditional textbooks.
    The tooling has improved a lot in recent years. Things like Yomichan and its integration with Anki and audio sources and Manga OCR are quite amazing. ChatGPT is also pretty revolutionary as a language partner and translator.

  • @wardm4
    @wardm4 2 роки тому +5

    Wow. This is great. I'm 2 years in and I've never used subtitles because I thought I'd never learn to hear properly if I could always read it. I feel like there is so much I still don't understand because of this.

  • @apenaseugustavo2904
    @apenaseugustavo2904 9 місяців тому

    Dude you are incredible,I never see one person reached 20,000 words in japanese this is crazy, your videos helping me in my journey in japanese thank you for a good videos of japanese

  • @InStiNctWalRus
    @InStiNctWalRus 2 роки тому +3

    Like this series a lot, I've been consistent throughout since my last comment on your videos. The point about immersing early on being annoying is much loved as I'm still such an absolute beginner (1500-2000ish words in total) Do you have any vids planned for grammar related? As I find it the most painful to learn. I hope not too far in the future you'll be able to 日本語上手 me when I can understand 1/10th of the things you say in the next VRChat or other usage video you do ❤❤❤

  • @MyLittleMagneton
    @MyLittleMagneton 2 роки тому +2

    100% agree with the subtitles bit. Me and my friend would sometimes watch movies when his parents were asleep, so we had to lower the volume which made it hard to hear everything that was being said. So we'd always turn on subtitles which kind of made our brains fill in the blanks, and the movie no longer felt like it was being played at an annoyingly low volume.
    ...
    I started watching the original Pokémon series in Japanese a while ago (which is really good by the way), I started with English subs since I'm still bit of a noob, and kept going with that since raw was too hard. But now on Season 3 I've found some Japanese subs that I switched to the other day; it's still hard, but it definitely increased my comprehension. So there has to be a visual component to hearing as you say!

  • @gosta6559
    @gosta6559 Місяць тому

    I seem to always return to your videos throughout my journey to learn Japanese. These videos are really great. I seem to also have similar interests to you. Old School RuneScape, Technology or software & hardware like Linux or even mechanical keyboards. Most of your content I enjoy. I think Livakivi, you're a cool person because of your interests, personality and dedication. I hope to one day be a cool person like you.

  • @sejcai
    @sejcai 2 роки тому

    bro thank you so much for always making such great stuff, you’re one of the few youtubers i watch basically every upload for. your advice has helped a lot!!!
    という訳でー
    i don’t know if you’ve shown this before, but do can you give a few recommended youtubers and stuff like that? podcasts, tv shows, that sort of stuff. i think a lot of people (including myself) would be interested to hear. sorry if this is already out there somewhere, thank you againn

    • @Livakivi
      @Livakivi  2 роки тому

      Here are some of the channels I like:
      - PiroPito: ua-cam.com/channels/r1zZcrgK3k-KvH5KnfHtXQ.html
      - RRRtoXXX: ua-cam.com/channels/zvDffaAaPXPvItx6brWGJg.html
      - Seto Koji: ua-cam.com/users/Kojiseto
      - Inakamon: ua-cam.com/users/inakamon
      For podcasts, I recommend checking out the nihongo con teppei podcast. There is a variant for beginners, for intermediates and a podcast called japanese with teppei and noriko, which I've listened to a lot.

  • @Some_Guy_87
    @Some_Guy_87 2 роки тому +1

    I can relate to the last part soo much. I've wasted so many years not properly learning any new language because I was more concerned about reaching goals that others set up for the language, rather than pursuing it as something to enrich my free time. I always tried to be as good in speaking as I was in listening, for example, despite not really feeling comfortable with talking and not really being interested in it. I was more guided by the potential "So what does x mean in your target language?" question than learning for the actual stuff I am interested in, leading to less time spent learning and ultimately not learning anything at all...

  • @Lherme
    @Lherme 2 роки тому +1

    You motivated me to grab the bull by the balls and start learning japanese 8 days ago, still going strong ;) I have the goals of being able to talk fluently with native japanese speakers and probably will live there after my college degree!

  • @bonk2935
    @bonk2935 Рік тому +3

    Man, you don't understand how much of an inspiration you've been for me.
    You're the reason i've restarted learning Russian (was born in Latvia and always lived in Italy but i want to be able to understand my relatives from soviet countries) and hopefully i'll take on studying japanese in the near future.
    Also looks like we share the same interests like learning to draw and aspiring to be a game developer lol, good luck with everything :)

    • @mpforeverunlimited
      @mpforeverunlimited Рік тому

      I found Russian to be way harder than Japanese. Even after living there for months and studying for years, my Japanese is way better

  • @jackb9045
    @jackb9045 2 роки тому +1

    You're vids are great

  • @BlakesLounge
    @BlakesLounge 2 роки тому +1

    I think that immersion is just a natural step in learning and should be an approach everyone needs to take on at some point, i went through grammar basics and all for around 5 months, after that just trying to immerse, and picking up some more grammar points on the way. its been about 1 year and 2 months since i started with tedious hiragana and katakana, and now im watching anime, reading manga daily with little need to make anki cards, though ive still a longggg way to go to my goals and thats okay. I'm able to make friends i otherwise couldn't of even talked to in VRchat, all thanks to the time i spent with the tedious stuff, and sticking with it even though it was discouraging at the beginning
    I wish everyone the best in your studies

  • @ani-so1uk
    @ani-so1uk 2 роки тому

    Great video 😊

  • @CaptainWumbo
    @CaptainWumbo 2 роки тому

    you da best :)
    I find even though my level isn't that high, I'm able to immerse well with an audiobook and the text in front of me. I don't know if I would want to do it with tv shows. I stopped anki (only after 2 months) because I think I enjoy reading more and the revision of words will still be frequent as long as I read enough. I find I'm motivated just because I like the book.

  • @user-tr6jt5li8d
    @user-tr6jt5li8d 2 роки тому

    I started learning Japanese beacause of your videos. Thank you A lot.

  • @juns5979
    @juns5979 Рік тому

    Bro the editing of this video is so meticulous! I'm mind-blown right now. Every sentence you say matches what shows in the video. Keep up these series man I love them.

  • @Joshuwa8
    @Joshuwa8 2 місяці тому

    PROPER JAPANESE SUBTITLES ARE SOOOOO IMPORTANT.
    This is why I love those Japanese podcast channels since they always have subtitles for everything.

  • @vrnihongo
    @vrnihongo 2 роки тому

    Hi! Livakivi! I watched your immersion video and I can't agree more in regards to immersion. I run Japanese LIVE immersion classes in VR Chat (3times a week) -and I encourage people to actually speak! In-put and out-put + immersion I agree with you 100%. Thank you for making the video!

    • @Livakivi
      @Livakivi  2 роки тому +1

      That is very cool! I think its really cool that you do Japanese lessons in VR chat!!

    • @vrnihongo
      @vrnihongo 2 роки тому

      @@Livakivi Thank you! I really think what you do here is awesome letting people know alternative way to learn Japanese so ありがとうございます! You are welcome to come and join us to see what we do anytime! もしよかったら遊びに来てください。お待ちしております

  • @PatChatGC
    @PatChatGC Рік тому +1

    As always, shoutout to the runescape music!

    • @Livakivi
      @Livakivi  Рік тому +1

      RuneScape music is a vital component of this channel

    • @matteonator
      @matteonator Рік тому

      Scrolled through hundreds of comments for this one

  • @ochavezart
    @ochavezart Рік тому +1

    "think for yourself," that I applied in several areas in my life, but for learning Japanese I was a robot and followed the advice of others to the letter, which in the end created internal conflict because I wanted to really learn from other sources. Even when it came to taking a day or two from learning the language I would still do it, which was bad, mix daily learning, from sources you dont like, and do cards from those sources, that is the way to discard language learning. But not this time, I'm picking it up again because, "you are not others, and other are not you." Thank you in may ways Livakivi, may you get $100,000,000 dollars.

  • @AstralDice
    @AstralDice 5 місяців тому

    5:44 that part genuinely hurt me to watch cause I was laughing too hard lmaoo

  • @Consum98
    @Consum98 2 роки тому

    that's a great point about early immersion, it sucks, a lot. i'm like 8 weeks in now and I can just about follow stuff I've never seen before. While i still suck, its just enough to be ENJOYABLE when I watch something new, and that's definitely the takeaway. I just brute force listened to the same handful of shows for like 2 hours a day without subtitles for like 2 months until I understood about 70% of them, and only then did I realise that that transferred over to other content. Pretty amazing feeling though!
    That would be my advice. If you can find something that's semi interesting but very easy, and its just engaging enough to warrant listening to it like 50 times (I.e it's just funny enough to make you occasionally go "lol I remember that scene") you'll make some pretty insane progress in terms of "internalisation" and processing of the language at natural speed. This goes for simple reading material too.

  • @jporfirio_
    @jporfirio_ 2 роки тому

    Glad to see another fan of Koji Seto

  • @luizfabiano4334
    @luizfabiano4334 Рік тому

    it is going to make 24 days since i started to seriously learn japanese and i think im ready to start immersing in some basic stuff like yotsubato, this series was extremely helpful, i even recommended it to a guy who was asking the benefits and others things about immersion, thank you.

    • @luizfabiano4334
      @luizfabiano4334 Рік тому +1

      it didn`t went well i guess i should read something even more basic than yotsuba lol

    • @umloiro3219
      @umloiro3219 Місяць тому

      @@luizfabiano4334 lol and how is it now after one year? what other thing did you started with?

  • @Allosis
    @Allosis 2 роки тому

    Nice vid !

  • @deathdoor
    @deathdoor 2 роки тому +2

    1- choose a dorama to watch
    2- the dorama is bad
    3- suffer and don't learn anything
    I'm at step 3 now.
    A ny wa y... I think "passive" listening is very important! Because when you are "active" listening you're trying to pay supper attention and identify individual words and you keep pausing frequently, thus breaking the rhythm of speech. You also need to get used to listing people talking normally at normal speed without interruptions to get usad to the tempo of the language.

  • @egoist25
    @egoist25 2 дні тому

    That’s the doubt I have while watching Japanese videos with Japanese subtitles turned on. I wondered am I even improving my listening if I’m basically comprehending most of the content through reading instead of listening. But if I don’t turn on subtitles, not only I may make mistakes, I won’t understand many words or phrases that I’m not familiar with yet. I guess it’s okay to keep the subtitle on for the immersive training

  • @rafaelherrera1636
    @rafaelherrera1636 Рік тому

    Just started learning a few days ago. Learning hiragana like you said in your other video. Do recommend any kind of immersion when you are fresh beginner? I am not going to understand it or is it better just to listen to it for how it sounds ?

  • @lagoadopato6653
    @lagoadopato6653 2 роки тому

    I really like to watch ポッキー gameplays here on youtube. Although i'm a beginner i can have fun watching him play resident evil game

  • @samgold9151
    @samgold9151 Рік тому

    Thank you

  • @benia1908
    @benia1908 3 місяці тому

    Regarding listening without subs, I think when you git gud in a language it can be more benefitial than listening + reading (if you have low listening skills, aka only having read / used subs). I don't know if I agree with your statement because when having subtitles, your mind can turn off the listening engine and just read everything, that has happened to me in romance languages, I don't know if Japanese is different in this regard, though I'd say Kanji can become a cheat to easily understand the language faster, and in consequence you can get a bad habit of relying too much on Kanji. For example, if I said せんしん, your mind can think of 先進, 専心, 線審, 撰進, 先秦, 潜心, etc, so recognizing which is which only with listening can be quite challenging, and it's a skill that needs to be developed by itself.

  • @user-vf2sq6pt7p
    @user-vf2sq6pt7p 2 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @MickaelG095
    @MickaelG095 2 роки тому

    Hello,
    Great video amongst a great series!
    May I ask which extension do you use to look up words from subtitles?
    Example: 1:20
    Thanks

    • @Livakivi
      @Livakivi  2 роки тому

      Hello, its Migaku. I recommend checking out this video, where I covered that, and other ones too: ua-cam.com/video/QBcQJESGQvc/v-deo.html

  • @tamegaming1768
    @tamegaming1768 Рік тому

    >Watching Japanese Type R video
    based. I've been watching a lot of Gunma 17 lately and they're good input

  • @Irvong
    @Irvong Рік тому

    Today's my 48th day learning Japanese almost 50 and its thanks to you. I watched your video were you talked japanese in vr chat and I wanted to do that so it got me back into learning your guides really help because when I first started I spent 2 months on just hiragana and katakana. I have two questions that I hope you can answer.
    1. I have trouble looking for anything to do immersion with can you recommend something that's good for beginners like videos a show or a box anything?
    2. I have been doing 10 new anki cards everyday for 48 days when should I increase the amount of cards and how much? Oh yeah also third question what do I use to record my immersion learning time I like looking on how much time I put on the grind 💪

    • @Livakivi
      @Livakivi  Рік тому

      Sorry for the really late reply, I didn't get notifications!
      1. That's hard for me to recommend as it depends so much based on the person, but I recommended some stuff I've watched at the end of the 2021 Q&A series. Maybe as extra, I'd recommend the original Moomin series.
      2. That's up to you if you want to increase it or not! I did 10 new cards for a few months I think when I got started, but it got too difficult so I went down to 6, then 5, until eventually at the end of the deck I started doing 10 to 15. Now I've been doing 20 self-made cards a day for over a year.
      3. I use TogglTrack but probably any cloud based time tracking software will work

  • @WhishoMH
    @WhishoMH 2 роки тому

    Thx 💜

  • @ziaahmad8738
    @ziaahmad8738 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for all these videos, i was wondering if your jp learning videos are based on refold method + your personal experience..?

    • @Livakivi
      @Livakivi  2 роки тому +2

      I said a lot of similar things in my first video on this channel already, which was before Refold even existed. Its mostly based on some parts of the input hypothesis and my own reasoning based on what I've seen, read, experienced and such.

  • @tux8664
    @tux8664 2 роки тому

    You got me learning after long bouts of not knowing what the fart to do, thanks

  • @nanashi722
    @nanashi722 8 місяців тому +1

    Great video!! Btw can you tell me the website you used to track your immersion time?

    • @Livakivi
      @Livakivi  8 місяців тому +1

      Its toggltrack!

    • @nanashi722
      @nanashi722 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Livakivi thank you

  • @riku_dola8079
    @riku_dola8079 2 роки тому +1

    Imo, Visual Novels are the best form of immersion! それこそ唯一の方法なんだ

  • @mohamedkamara8225
    @mohamedkamara8225 2 роки тому

    Your amazing

  • @iyar220
    @iyar220 2 роки тому

    Hello! I've learned a ton from this series in general, even though I'm quite experienced in Japanese already (have been learning for a year or so). Up until now I didn't really think about tracking how long I work every day, but I would like to start doing so. What's the name of the program you use for keeping track of how long you immerse/ how long you study in general?

    • @Livakivi
      @Livakivi  2 роки тому

      Its ToggleTrack! I don't have a dedicated number of minutes I study for every day, but I do my daily anki reviews, and sentence 20 new cards, and that's my routine. Occasionally also immerse for fun whenever I have the time and feel like it.

    • @iyar220
      @iyar220 2 роки тому

      @@Livakivi Thanks! This channel is a gold mine for a person dedicated enough, thank you for all your hard work. お疲れ様でした 土下座

  • @rbkishere
    @rbkishere Місяць тому

    at 2:31 which software you were using for translation of individuals words?

  • @trixdir4396
    @trixdir4396 10 місяців тому +1

    what's the program/browser extension you use to check the dictionary from subtitles?

  • @maheshpun4804
    @maheshpun4804 2 роки тому

    7:00 that's cool, phonetically start you engine would sound like starch your engine when spoken.
    Just like what you doing becomes whachu doing

  • @jayp2082
    @jayp2082 Рік тому

    Great video, have you started learning pitch accent and/or do you have plans to do so?

    • @Livakivi
      @Livakivi  Рік тому

      I've done some basic intro stuff with pitch accent, I'll most likely do a bit more work on it when I get more advanced. I'll maybe make a video related to it soon as well.

  • @shackoshadow5068
    @shackoshadow5068 2 роки тому

    Would watching with subtitles give you faster learning than training each of those skills (reading + listening) separately? I know you're on the side of subtitles, but I feel like it is hard to come up with a clear answer because it is too hard to quantify which is faster. I have been doing separate reading + listening and I feel like I am improving faster but I can't really tell if it is my level which is giving me that exponential growth.

    • @Livakivi
      @Livakivi  2 роки тому +2

      Idk it really doesn't matter. If you're watching something that has Japanese subtitles available, I'd say its better to use Japanese subs, if they don't then you just have to rely on listening. If you like reading, then reading is fine too. Just do whatever you can keep more consistent with and enjoy.

  • @rynomoron
    @rynomoron 2 роки тому +2

    I noticed you look up *every* single word you don't know when you're actively immersing, and I could see short periods of this being doable, but for me, this was a massive slog when I tried it and completely took the enjoyment out of immersion. It was just a chore I dreaded.
    It also doesn't give you a chance to infer meaning through context, a skill I completely lacked through my traditional college class/textbook days, but through immersing have significantly developed by intentionally avoiding looking up every dang word I don't know. Just something I feel is important to note for all the people out there just learning about this. I cannot stress enough HOW important that ability to infer the meaning of new words in my immersion and my own day to day life in Japan has been, so I personally recommend being a bit more deliberate in your word look ups, in addition to avoiding too many pauses breaking up the flow of your immersion.

    • @Livakivi
      @Livakivi  2 роки тому +1

      Sometimes I also don't look up everything when I don't feel like it, especially when watching without subtitles. I generally do active immersion with subtitles when I'm sentence mining, which sort of requires me to look up stuff that "I don't know" (by which I mean words that I CANT infer from context).
      Like I said, its all up to you, there are no rules, do whatever works best for you, if it keeps you more consistent, then its for the better 100%.

  • @yuv1182
    @yuv1182 2 роки тому

    Should I be immersing and sentence mining even if I have't finished core 2k/6k deck yet

  • @fatalsoldier1343
    @fatalsoldier1343 Рік тому

    What’s the site you use to track time it looks really clean, keep up the good work

  • @lukrio99990
    @lukrio99990 2 роки тому

    pov: your N5 is the funniest things I've ever seen tbh HDJDKS 😭
    I'm glad you touched on the "immersion is really hard in the beginning" point tho. as a beginner, I just don't understand enough to really look for, or enjoy much japanese stuff on a base level. like! its not fun when I understand so little im looking up 98% percent of the words in a sentence.
    and I literally have no idea where to start for stuff for beginners. I just wanna watch people play games I like lol not stop to poorly draw kanji into my dictionary every 30 seconds :(
    people will tell you to just immserse more, but I think I'll just stick to using anki until I hit 1000k cards on the 2k/6k deck. then I'll try some more content.

  • @Arctagon
    @Arctagon Рік тому +1

    You provide some pretty compelling reasoning for using subtitles. At the same time, I think it's important to be careful. Like you say, you may not realise that you hear something wrong in the absence of feedback, but if you prime your mind by reading the subtitles and understand what they say before they even say it, then it's not really feedback, is it? I've been thinking about this conundrum in the past, and I ended up watching with the subtitles hidden, checking my comprehension for every line or something, which got very tedious very fast. I never found a good solution to it, but I guess you could do something like keeping the subtitles hidden and only check them when there's something you don't understand or can't hear. If you view this as an intensive listening exercise, you can keep on going until you can't be bothered anymore, and then switch over to extensive listening after (with subs, if you like).
    Another point to be wary of is tunnel-visioning the subtitles to the point of not hearing anything of what anyone is saying. This is especially likely earlier on, when just trying to read and understand the subtitles will take most, if not all, your mental resources.
    Anyway, thanks for the video. I will incorporate subtitles back into my immersion, and see how it goes.

    • @Livakivi
      @Livakivi  Рік тому +3

      Yeah I don't think its a problem since like I said in the video as well, its not like you always read every subtitle perfectly every time so you still need to rely on listening a good bit as well in the long run. In reality, when using subtitles, most people only check maybe one or two words per subtitle really quickly mixed with having periods where they haven't paid any attention to the subtitles for over 5 minutes as they weren't necessary (but then when suddenly a word pops up that they didn't pick up properly they quickly check). I really do recommend using subtitles. In my latest (4 years of learning) video I also said that despite using subtitles every chance I get, I truly had near 0 issues with listening in conversations, and I can say with confidence that I'm absolutely not concerned about my listening ability at all since I don't feel like its lagging behind at all.
      Generally if I don't understand something via listening, its not so much to do with having a weak listening ability but rather missing some word or just "experience" of what words/sounds to expect in a sentence based on context based on someone's dialect, voice and speaking style.

  • @exartic._
    @exartic._ 2 роки тому

    I'm here early!!!!!!!!

  • @mosscode6876
    @mosscode6876 2 роки тому

    I have a question regarding this. Does it hurt your learning if you set a specific amount of time for learning but at times, like to go over the set amount of time? For example, you set yourself to watch 1hour worth of youtube. But sometimes, you enjoy the content too much that you watch for over 3 hours instead. I was wondering if going over the limit that you set at times will break your consistency?

    • @Livakivi
      @Livakivi  2 роки тому

      Of course not, the more hours you put in the better. The consistency thing is mostly just about showing up daily, not about doing it for X amount of minutes.

    • @mosscode6876
      @mosscode6876 2 роки тому

      @@Livakivi Thank you

  • @Poly--Glot
    @Poly--Glot 5 місяців тому

    Yeah dude, the hardest part is to find content and enjoy at your level.

  • @_capu
    @_capu 2 роки тому +2

    Things I confirmed or learnt:
    Watching with TL subtitles is not a bad thing (on the contrary) CHECK
    Watching what I like is more important than watching something that is more "valuable" CHECK
    Looking up every word I don't know is not a bad thing CHECK

    • @endouerick7519
      @endouerick7519 6 місяців тому

      Can you understand stuff without subtitles now?

  • @Irvong
    @Irvong Рік тому

    Hello I have been using anki for 15 days straight now and most sessions only take 30-50 minutes for now but that's all my japanese learning everyday. I wanna learn more I haven't been reading the Tae Kim's guide much but I'm try to but when do you recommend I should start immersion?

    • @Livakivi
      @Livakivi  Рік тому +1

      You can start immersion fro day 1, if you want to learn more, just do immersion and you can learn the Tae Kim book and so on!

    • @Irvong
      @Irvong Рік тому

      @@Livakivi ahh thanks for the quick response and the awesome video

  • @Jinjo92
    @Jinjo92 2 роки тому

    What series is at 1:05? Saw that guy quite often in your other videos and I am searching for a series for immersion. :)

    • @Livakivi
      @Livakivi  2 роки тому +1

      Kekkon Dekinai Otoko. But that clip is from Mata Kekkon Dekinai Otoko, which is basically season 2 to the first show.

  • @LilFrenchie
    @LilFrenchie 11 місяців тому

    Can someone give me good ressources to start that ? I’m interested in pretty much everything so I don’t mind starting with something rly niche or random

  • @SpookyReza
    @SpookyReza Рік тому

    It was probably mentioned before but couldn't find it. But how does he have the subtitles colored?

    • @Livakivi
      @Livakivi  Рік тому

      Its the paid Migaku browser add-on. I have a reflink for it in the description. The colors represent pitch accents.

  • @grqfes
    @grqfes 7 місяців тому

    immersion at my level is just basically anki with extra steps

  • @MrsKoldun
    @MrsKoldun 2 роки тому +1

    Off topic, but I really think you you could benefit from also opening an IG account. The studygram, language learning and self improvement community is thriving there! You don’t even have to invent new things, just recycling and positing snippets of your videos would do the magic. 😊 you’re one of my favourite creators on YT and I find myself watching your videos over and over again, as you do really motivate me, so I would love for your valuable content to reach as many people as possible.
    PS: I LOVE your video on “going back in time and starting earlier”, it’s really meta and puts things into perspective. If I can recommend a book with a related topic to you: Grit by Angela Duckworth

  • @electricspeedruns6121
    @electricspeedruns6121 10 місяців тому

    I wanna ask something I cant seem to sentence mine I feel like i want to immerse but dont want to make cards is okay if i just look up stuff and dont hate just curious about this

    • @angelmarquez5153
      @angelmarquez5153 7 місяців тому +1

      You absolutely can just immerse and look stuff up, the point of sentence mining is just to help you review words and phrases that are less common but you don't need to do it, I never used sentence mining while learning English and I would say I'm at a pretty good level with my English

    • @electricspeedruns6121
      @electricspeedruns6121 7 місяців тому

      Thank you for your reply !@@angelmarquez5153

  • @lunarsimg1927
    @lunarsimg1927 2 роки тому

    Great video! currently I'm at 80 hours of active immersion but I haven't been consistent so I'm not too happy with that number. but again bro ur vids are great.

  • @DragonplayerDev
    @DragonplayerDev 2 роки тому

    My favorite way of immersing is through watching JP Twitch streamers, since you can make it as active or passive as you want.

  • @dilkondeff
    @dilkondeff Рік тому

    Bro I have a question, like, where did you learn the grammar? I really struggle with immersion because whenever I try I become overwhelmed with all these particles, endings, conjugations and so on. Japanese has really a lot of such grammar things that are confusing. It is nothing like In english which I learned the same way you learned Japanese - through immersion. But english grammar is really a breeze especially compared to japanese.. Like I can't even find decent sources with explanations of japanese grammar. Whenever I stuble upon some grammar issue I try to google it, and it is often that I either can't find anything useful at all, or there is something but the explanation is really lame and impossible to penetrate. That was actually the reason why I opted immersion with my english studying because people who write grammar explanations are probably from different planet and with different mindset or plainly just stupid and can't properly explain (or it is just me).

    • @Livakivi
      @Livakivi  Рік тому +1

      Watch the first episode in this series, link in the description, I talk about grammar a bit