That counter is crazy. It just... it just straight up puts you in amped mode after doing a bunch of damage. My biggest complaint about switch axe is GONE with the addition of a new defensive maneuver.
I would agree if it didn't require you to have 2 bugs, swaxe has a lot of utility silkbinds for positioning already so having something to really pump out burst damage and the fact that the slow startup means you can't reactively counter most things makes it fine to give large damage and amped state. Keep in mind longsword has both preemptive and reactive counters that not only cost no bugs but also level your gauge so swaxe getting a preemptive one for 2 bugs that makes you amped is not a big deal imo
@@axis8396 agreed. I thing the switch axe gained a complaint from me with the addition of the counter. I honestly wish it got more of a damaging adept dodge than a counter.
As a SA main i have to say: its so inspiring to watch you using SA. Godlike as always. I really liked how you let the counter on the first slot and only used the second slot to refill the sword phial.
Fun story, did my first Astalos hunt today, carved a mantle. Y'know, in the demo that doesn't carry over. Anyways, how's your day going, guys? I'm going to go cry in that corner over there.
As someone who's always loved Switch Axe, and has completely fallen in love with it all over again in Rise... I am SO fucking pumped for Sunbreak!! The Swaxe just feels so good in this game, and imo is the best iteration we've ever gotten, with it actually meshing the two modes super well. I always hated the playstyle of "Stay in Sword Mode as much as feasibly possible, and only use Axe Mode to prep Sword Mode." Swaxe just feels so good as a flowing weapon between the two modes.
@@PackOfWolves928 using the silkbind puts you into a stance. When you press the morph button (axe>sword, default is one of the trigger buttons I think) in that stance, you'll do a single slash with an explosion. If you get hit during the attack animation, you'll do the counter attack 👍
@@PackOfWolves928 need to time the morph just before you get hit, like when the monster is literally about to smack you. The timing is actually a bit tight
The counter is so good I'm kinda having love-hate relationship with it because you pretty much have to always be using it now, same as the morph skill.
Honestly kinda hope they make it not instantly fill up amp, at least for power phial. Maybe like half of the amp for power phial stuff so the downside of taking much longer to amp with power phial still exists. This is just a bit too easy to fully amp.
I see more of a playstyle where you only use the counter to get into amped state, then use your maneuverability options and usual combos to dish out your damage. This counter for sure won't be used against certain monsters like ibushi, narwa, and more than likely Mitsuzune. That thing just gets headlocked.
@@FrostyTheCookie idk. Swith axe need to amp kind of stupid to me. What it should be is amp in sword mode and not amp in axe mode. This way it seperate clearly. Power and mobility.
@@FrostyTheCookie I mean power Phials are useless in game currently because they are so slow to fill up. Also, the Swagaxe in the demo is a power phial (you can tell if you try to fill it up without the counter.)
@@Adalon- agreed. This counter basically brings Power Phial back from obscurity, where before Exhaust and Poison Phial we're preferred because they filled up so quickly. Also, spamming Soaring Wyvern Blade to fill gauge is cumbersome and un-fun, leading to a clunky opening to fights, where this new counter basically gives you a great start
Niiiice! I was wondering how to use that counter properly. Being a GL main nowadays, I sort of expected a more instantaneous thing (like Guard Edge is) but this seems nice too. Maybe I'll focus more on SA in Sunbreak after neglecting it since 4U.
I love this game and I’m super happy to see him in sunbreak but it’s really when you fight astalos that you realize how much we lost on hitlag, like every hit on astalos in GU made you feel like you were swinging the dragonslayer and it’s really something I miss :'(
I remenber when they annoused the dogs everybody wanted to justo bring dogs 5:28 but damn cats are si much useful here that is almost unfair for the dogs, like they were only mean to be uber
I spent way too long trying to figure out the counter and when to use it that I accidentally triggered it and was like 'how did I do that?' so that now I am trying to let it happen naturally and plan alot less stressfuly.
Ended up shy of a sub 6 run due to Plesioth like hitbox. Had a "Only in monster hunter" moment when I instantly died after stepping on the Astalos head saber while it was stuck in the ground 😭
What do you even mean with the axe being gone Youre talking about the MH game that uses the axe the most of the franchise. Between amped affecting axe and rapid morph you use the axe as much as the sword
@@Rubydrag33 Thats what I mean. You only use the it for switching. The Axe mode itself is basically worthless. I'm saying the "Switch" part is way more important the Axe part of the weapon. And yes the Phials affect Axe mode. But Sword still offers far more DPS if you don't want to use thes switch combo for whatever reason. And you don't even need to stay in Axe to recharge the thing because you just do the Silkbind Charger thing whenever the Sword Gauge is getting empty. And the buff you get from Wildswing Combo with the overhead slam is the most useless buff in the game. With Soaring Wyvernblade und the new Counter its so easy to get into Amped mode anyway. They should'Ve left the Power Axe mode like it was in Iceborne where it actually buffed the Axe mode and not make it charge faster for like 10 seconds.
@@riemaennchen Youre talking as if getting into amped fast was bad. Not building up amped mode was litterally the heaviest reason why you would use sword over axe. And the switch button is still an axe attack when it morphs from sword, believe or not. If not, we can do the same with sword, and you get that the only sword attack you use is the double swing 1 time in between the switch combo, so i dont see how sword is eclipsing the axe.
@@riemaennchen tbf this is still the second most of axe mode we've seen, only second to world. Axe mode was entirely worthless in the other games unless you wanted to cut a tail, except back then there was no reason to swap between modes. In older mh you would get around 30% more dps if you just reloaded your gauge because axe mode was so incredibly awful at dps and swapping offered no bonus to gauge recovery.
@@austinfields1490 Alright First and foremost, it is a "proactive" parry not a "reactive" parry. Similar to Iai slash for long sword you put yourself into a ready stance and parry at the opportune time. It is NOT like metsu-Shorugeki for Sword and shield were you press the input at the moment of the attack to parry. Second: you need to press your attacking or morphing button (mine is R1) to actually trigger the attack Third: the parry will still do damage if you press your attack button, even if the parry does not trigger (which is nice) Fourth: you will know when you do it right, when that chime sound plays and your Swaxe gage completely fills up. You can actually see the proper timing because similar to the Swaxe move "Invincible gambit" there are wirebug threads that surround the hunter while the "counter" part of the move is active. So you can just play with the move and look at the animation to see when that sweet spot is. There we go I think that's everything 😄
@@LazyData Absolutely 😁 just time it to the part were the wires surround you. It is a weird feeling at first since it's not reactionary, but once you learn it it's super generous actually. One of the better counters in game for damage and function filling your gage. Makes Power phial really strong.
I like that the switch axe counter requires timing and prep and if you land it right you get a tasty buff great damage and an amazing impact. It actually needs real skill to work too, unlike a certain other weapon..........
The only thing worse than LS Iai slash is the initial prep time, everything else is straight up better, the reaction window, the dmg and the utility. Its less skilled to use, but you can use it in less situations because you have to enter the counter stance a bit before you would do with a LS.
Yet another weapon with not only a newly added counter, but one that instantly fills its upkeep mechanic too....again... yey I don't mind the crazy sugar rush of deleting weapon individuality/downsides in place of adding mindless fun, but I sure demand a hearty savory stew afterward (and deeply fear the sugar rush doesn't go away in MH6 & onward)
The run is insane and the counter is cool, but MH isn't designed to be a counter based game. Weapons getting counters breaks the combat, especially with how big the rewards are. Counters generally are supposed to be a high-risk high reward type of situation, but in MH the risk is very low. The problem is that counters have too many s and can be activated in advance, instead of needing perfect timing. Monsters leave predictable openings, essentially turning every counter into a huge upside for the hunter. Astalos is a perfect example. In rage mode he always does his wing slam twice, leaving a huge opening after that. Once you know this every counter is free damage. Similarly, after burying the tail and discharging he leaves a huge window after that, again turning a dangerous attack into child's play. The worst is that I see more and more people demand their weapon get a counter attack. MH is balanced around dodging, if counters instead become the focus, then Monsters need different attacking patterns to compensate. Not the predictable openings of the past.
I swear, the SA counter is almost random. I REALLY hope they tweak it a bit more with the full game, or else I feel it's not gonna be worth running over the reload.
Are you high? You can litterally run both, the counter is even easier to land than LS Iai slash, has great dmg and puts you in amped state instantly which only because of that alone is worth aside of the counter side of it. He failed a lot of counters not becase of timing, but because the monster straight up missed its hit on a stale target.
No, in fact, I think the counter will be nerfed a little bit in the full game. It currently has too many benefits for the risk. I would argue it is more broken than most of longsword's counters because of how Switch Axe works with the amped state.
@@Rubydrag33 That's the problem, the counter doesnt consistently counter moves, it sometimes does. You can counter an attack, get the hyper armor, but get no follow up and take full damage because the game randomly decided the counter didnt actually connect. It's really annoying, and really hurts the usefulness of the move. Personally, I dont like flipping a coin to decide if an attack will do anything or not.
@@Jpmrocks7 it consistently counter moves wtf. If the monster misses the attack its gonna miss either youre doing the counter or not, its not the counter's problem, just AI messing with your positioning
If you are all going to lap this up and throw Capcom money after how dirty they did us with Rise I don't know what to tell you. Speak with your wallets and show them MH needs to be MH again. Member when hits had impact and the monsters were a threat? Pepperidge farm does.....
I love that its just unwieldy enough with the long windup to not instantly turn Switch Axe into an invincible powerhouse, but its strong and impactful enough to be rewarding and useable. perfectly balanced.
@@ProtoTypeFM I think your right. I was skeptikal about sa getting a counter but it feels like this is as close to perfect as possible with the beserk risky all out style of the weapon
That counter is crazy. It just... it just straight up puts you in amped mode after doing a bunch of damage. My biggest complaint about switch axe is GONE with the addition of a new defensive maneuver.
Ah yes..the weapon of legend. The swaxe is so good still. Even better now really. Love it. Great clean hunt Canta
That counter is crazy.
It just... it just straight up puts you in amped mode after doing a bunch of damage.
My biggest complaint about switch axe is GONE with the addition of a new defensive maneuver.
Agreed lmao. I started playing Swaxe in Rise for the first time a few days ago and I was really annoyed that it didn't really have any counter attacks
as long as you successfully pull off the move it puts you in amped mode even if you miss all of the hits
I don't think the counter needs to do that much damage, keeping you safe and filling your amped state is far enough imo
I would agree if it didn't require you to have 2 bugs, swaxe has a lot of utility silkbinds for positioning already so having something to really pump out burst damage and the fact that the slow startup means you can't reactively counter most things makes it fine to give large damage and amped state. Keep in mind longsword has both preemptive and reactive counters that not only cost no bugs but also level your gauge so swaxe getting a preemptive one for 2 bugs that makes you amped is not a big deal imo
@@axis8396 agreed. I thing the switch axe gained a complaint from me with the addition of the counter. I honestly wish it got more of a damaging adept dodge than a counter.
Woah canta uploaded wtf😂
I'm really happy they improve the Jungle map into seamless area.
Me: "you know, I feel like I've been getting better with the Switch Axe over the years"
*watches Canta once*
"You know what, nevermind"
There being a player like Canta pulling off godlike stuff like this doesn't negate whatever degree of progress you've achieved, _you know_
As a SA main i have to say: its so inspiring to watch you using SA. Godlike as always. I really liked how you let the counter on the first slot and only used the second slot to refill the sword phial.
It's like a gift, Canta finally uploaded a MH vid 😭🤣
The most aggressive & offensively versatile weapon in Monster Hunter... Now has COUNTER!!!
Dear Lord
Fun story, did my first Astalos hunt today, carved a mantle. Y'know, in the demo that doesn't carry over.
Anyways, how's your day going, guys? I'm going to go cry in that corner over there.
Damn bro
Same thing for me picked up a mantle first hunt and was like welp see you again in 10 hunts
Your luck active at the wrong time. You will never see it again in the full game 😂
The key is to not carve in the demo save all that luck for the full game lol 😆
Literally my first carve in the demo was an Astalos Mantle, I was pissed lmao
As someone who's always loved Switch Axe, and has completely fallen in love with it all over again in Rise... I am SO fucking pumped for Sunbreak!!
The Swaxe just feels so good in this game, and imo is the best iteration we've ever gotten, with it actually meshing the two modes super well. I always hated the playstyle of "Stay in Sword Mode as much as feasibly possible, and only use Axe Mode to prep Sword Mode." Swaxe just feels so good as a flowing weapon between the two modes.
First time I saw you used switch axe. Very impressive positioning and counter.
The windup for the counter needs some getting used to, but if you pull it off, it's so satisfying
i still dont get how to use it :c
@@PackOfWolves928 using the silkbind puts you into a stance. When you press the morph button (axe>sword, default is one of the trigger buttons I think) in that stance, you'll do a single slash with an explosion. If you get hit during the attack animation, you'll do the counter attack 👍
@@collyqually6486 dude I just get smacked and nothing happens T.T
@@PackOfWolves928 need to time the morph just before you get hit, like when the monster is literally about to smack you. The timing is actually a bit tight
@@jamesmann3867 so you activate it, go into the stance, then morph out at the right time??
Next to Rajang and Bloodbath this is my favourite monster in the series and they did not disappoint. Beautiful.
The counter is so good I'm kinda having love-hate relationship with it because you pretty much have to always be using it now, same as the morph skill.
Honestly kinda hope they make it not instantly fill up amp, at least for power phial. Maybe like half of the amp for power phial stuff so the downside of taking much longer to amp with power phial still exists. This is just a bit too easy to fully amp.
I see more of a playstyle where you only use the counter to get into amped state, then use your maneuverability options and usual combos to dish out your damage. This counter for sure won't be used against certain monsters like ibushi, narwa, and more than likely Mitsuzune. That thing just gets headlocked.
@@FrostyTheCookie idk. Swith axe need to amp kind of stupid to me. What it should be is amp in sword mode and not amp in axe mode. This way it seperate clearly. Power and mobility.
@@FrostyTheCookie I mean power Phials are useless in game currently because they are so slow to fill up. Also, the Swagaxe in the demo is a power phial (you can tell if you try to fill it up without the counter.)
@@Adalon- agreed. This counter basically brings Power Phial back from obscurity, where before Exhaust and Poison Phial we're preferred because they filled up so quickly. Also, spamming Soaring Wyvern Blade to fill gauge is cumbersome and un-fun, leading to a clunky opening to fights, where this new counter basically gives you a great start
Also, that Velvet poke made me laugh. Perfect timing.
Amazing hunt as always Canta
kittenator OP wtf
It hits like a truck lol
4:15 for some reason that counter just hits different than the rest.
Same kinda thing as condensed discharge i think, where the weapon freezes for a split second to show the impact
Because the wing broke
It sounded like charge blade discharge after doing counter peak performance
I felt so bad for that astalos meeting a monster.
Happy to see you posting again!
Beautiful run
Swaxe was my main weapon during world and rise, it's going to get quite insane ngl
They made swaxe combos endless damn
Nice job! Lowest i got was 8:08 gotta get better with them counters! But ima wait for the full game so i dont burn out
Counter makes this weapon my dream come true.
What a beast!
Niiiice!
I was wondering how to use that counter properly. Being a GL main nowadays, I sort of expected a more instantaneous thing (like Guard Edge is) but this seems nice too. Maybe I'll focus more on SA in Sunbreak after neglecting it since 4U.
Welcome back, Canta!
The switch skills for the switch axe is just insane.
SA is looking promising
I love this game and I’m super happy to see him in sunbreak but it’s really when you fight astalos that you realize how much we lost on hitlag, like every hit on astalos in GU made you feel like you were swinging the dragonslayer and it’s really something I miss :'(
how can the Astolos SA not have green lightning effects?? -_- small detail that would go a long way.
the yellow lightning effect is indicate the weapon has power phials, not element phials (green colored)
Swagaxe on Top 👑
Amazing Hunt!!!!
This is so cool
this counter so OP
i was cheering each counter that was Pog
Damn, the switch axe lookin' tasty
Canta: I am the Astalos now
The cat dragonator 5:25 😂
Instant amp counter. Sweet jesus.
I remenber when they annoused the dogs everybody wanted to justo bring dogs
5:28 but damn cats are si much useful here that is almost unfair for the dogs, like they were only mean to be uber
Why does most of the counter move fail? Like the one in 2:40
Am I delusional or did they take the silk counter from frontier?
the royal parry is almost instantaneous, and iirc it doesn't do any damage, it just charges up your beamsword.
woah new videos
Have you PC version?
What's this on? Pc? Or switch?
PC
I spent way too long trying to figure out the counter and when to use it that I accidentally triggered it and was like 'how did I do that?' so that now I am trying to let it happen naturally and plan alot less stressfuly.
Great!👍
Can you make a guide on how you use SA?
@5:26 Bruh the palicos get a friken dragonator?
NICE ！SO COOL！！！👍
Yowwwwwww my fav hunter
How is that AMP mode not going away..
How you activate the counter?
You have to hit the ZR trigger to activate it. It
is the same button you use to change modes.
DAMN
Ended up shy of a sub 6 run due to Plesioth like hitbox. Had a "Only in monster hunter" moment when I instantly died after stepping on the Astalos head saber while it was stuck in the ground 😭
Clean! I really do not like how swaxe feels and plays as well as the long counter initiation but its a very respectable weapon
Your twitch link doesn't work for me.
I forgot I changed my name on twitch recently lmao, thanks for pointing that out, here's the link
www.twitch.tv/cantaperme
Switch-Axe is so good in Sunbreak. Even though Axe part of the weapon is now almost completely gone.
What do you even mean with the axe being gone Youre talking about the MH game that uses the axe the most of the franchise. Between amped affecting axe and rapid morph you use the axe as much as the sword
@@Rubydrag33 Thats what I mean. You only use the it for switching. The Axe mode itself is basically worthless.
I'm saying the "Switch" part is way more important the Axe part of the weapon.
And yes the Phials affect Axe mode. But Sword still offers far more DPS if you don't want to use thes switch combo for whatever reason.
And you don't even need to stay in Axe to recharge the thing because you just do the Silkbind Charger thing whenever the Sword Gauge is getting empty.
And the buff you get from Wildswing Combo with the overhead slam is the most useless buff in the game. With Soaring Wyvernblade und the new Counter its so easy to get into Amped mode anyway.
They should'Ve left the Power Axe mode like it was in Iceborne where it actually buffed the Axe mode and not make it charge faster for like 10 seconds.
@@riemaennchen Youre talking as if getting into amped fast was bad. Not building up amped mode was litterally the heaviest reason why you would use sword over axe. And the switch button is still an axe attack when it morphs from sword, believe or not. If not, we can do the same with sword, and you get that the only sword attack you use is the double swing 1 time in between the switch combo, so i dont see how sword is eclipsing the axe.
@@Rubydrag33 I'm not saying Amped mode is bad thing.
Just that half of the weapons moveset is now completely useless.
@@riemaennchen tbf this is still the second most of axe mode we've seen, only second to world. Axe mode was entirely worthless in the other games unless you wanted to cut a tail, except back then there was no reason to swap between modes. In older mh you would get around 30% more dps if you just reloaded your gauge because axe mode was so incredibly awful at dps and swapping offered no bonus to gauge recovery.
nice
4:15-4:18 OMG its makes amp state faster?
instant amped state on successful counter
You and me both lol. I tried it like 4 times and still don't understand the counter.
You get it yet or you want me to explain a little
@@ashenphoenix6869 if you don’t mind explaining I’m down to listen.
@@austinfields1490 Alright First and foremost, it is a "proactive" parry not a "reactive" parry. Similar to Iai slash for long sword you put yourself into a ready stance and parry at the opportune time. It is NOT like metsu-Shorugeki for Sword and shield were you press the input at the moment of the attack to parry.
Second: you need to press your attacking or morphing button (mine is R1) to actually trigger the attack
Third: the parry will still do damage if you press your attack button, even if the parry does not trigger (which is nice)
Fourth: you will know when you do it right, when that chime sound plays and your Swaxe gage completely fills up. You can actually see the proper timing because similar to the Swaxe move "Invincible gambit" there are wirebug threads that surround the hunter while the "counter" part of the move is active. So you can just play with the move and look at the animation to see when that sweet spot is.
There we go I think that's everything 😄
@@ashenphoenix6869 So basically, Push buttons to prep stance, then push button again as the monster attack comes in to launch your own counter attack?
@@LazyData Absolutely 😁 just time it to the part were the wires surround you. It is a weird feeling at first since it's not reactionary, but once you learn it it's super generous actually. One of the better counters in game for damage and function filling your gage. Makes Power phial really strong.
1:58 is it just me why the blood effect looks different ?
if swaxe was the only weapon in monhun i wouldnt even be mad
please show us switch skill build
at 5:29 .. did the Palico just use a mini dragonator hahaha
5:28 Dragonator Cat!?!
The counter is still playing with your feelings lol, it's somewhat weird to activate
Astalos now looks like its sponsored by Razer, ngl :D
I love the new counter but I feel like it does a bit too much damage considering how big the window is and that it gives you free amped state
the best switch axe is still the mh3u version
I like that the switch axe counter requires timing and prep and if you land it right you get a tasty buff great damage and an amazing impact. It actually needs real skill to work too, unlike a certain other weapon..........
lol what are you talking about? I play both weapons and the sa counter is not that hard to pull off
The only thing worse than LS Iai slash is the initial prep time, everything else is straight up better, the reaction window, the dmg and the utility. Its less skilled to use, but you can use it in less situations because you have to enter the counter stance a bit before you would do with a LS.
I wish i am that good ! lol
You couldnt carve a Rajang Heart what a Shame.
Yet another weapon with not only a newly added counter, but one that instantly fills its upkeep mechanic too....again... yey
I don't mind the crazy sugar rush of deleting weapon individuality/downsides in place of adding mindless fun, but I sure demand a hearty savory stew afterward (and deeply fear the sugar rush doesn't go away in MH6 & onward)
They're eating grub for MH6
The run is insane and the counter is cool, but MH isn't designed to be a counter based game. Weapons getting counters breaks the combat, especially with how big the rewards are. Counters generally are supposed to be a high-risk high reward type of situation, but in MH the risk is very low. The problem is that counters have too many s and can be activated in advance, instead of needing perfect timing. Monsters leave predictable openings, essentially turning every counter into a huge upside for the hunter.
Astalos is a perfect example. In rage mode he always does his wing slam twice, leaving a huge opening after that. Once you know this every counter is free damage. Similarly, after burying the tail and discharging he leaves a huge window after that, again turning a dangerous attack into child's play.
The worst is that I see more and more people demand their weapon get a counter attack. MH is balanced around dodging, if counters instead become the focus, then Monsters need different attacking patterns to compensate. Not the predictable openings of the past.
I swear, the SA counter is almost random. I REALLY hope they tweak it a bit more with the full game, or else I feel it's not gonna be worth running over the reload.
I mean you can run both with Switch Skill Swap anyways, and instantly filling amp is insanely good, especially for power phial.
Are you high? You can litterally run both, the counter is even easier to land than LS Iai slash, has great dmg and puts you in amped state instantly which only because of that alone is worth aside of the counter side of it. He failed a lot of counters not becase of timing, but because the monster straight up missed its hit on a stale target.
No, in fact, I think the counter will be nerfed a little bit in the full game. It currently has too many benefits for the risk. I would argue it is more broken than most of longsword's counters because of how Switch Axe works with the amped state.
@@Rubydrag33 That's the problem, the counter doesnt consistently counter moves, it sometimes does. You can counter an attack, get the hyper armor, but get no follow up and take full damage because the game randomly decided the counter didnt actually connect. It's really annoying, and really hurts the usefulness of the move. Personally, I dont like flipping a coin to decide if an attack will do anything or not.
@@Jpmrocks7 it consistently counter moves wtf. If the monster misses the attack its gonna miss either youre doing the counter or not, its not the counter's problem, just AI messing with your positioning
If you are all going to lap this up and throw Capcom money after how dirty they did us with Rise I don't know what to tell you. Speak with your wallets and show them MH needs to be MH again. Member when hits had impact and the monsters were a threat? Pepperidge farm does.....
That counter feels good and weird to use at the same time 🥲
I love that its just unwieldy enough with the long windup to not instantly turn Switch Axe into an invincible powerhouse, but its strong and impactful enough to be rewarding and useable. perfectly balanced.
@@ProtoTypeFM I think your right. I was skeptikal about sa getting a counter but it feels like this is as close to perfect as possible with the beserk risky all out style of the weapon
nioce ya back!
ias tgat a baby dragonator?
That counter is crazy.
It just... it just straight up puts you in amped mode after doing a bunch of damage.
My biggest complaint about switch axe is GONE with the addition of a new defensive maneuver.
nice