thx for including PUBG, but please use very low settings instead of ultra, as ultra settings make game stutter very hard, and no one who play PUBG dont use ultra
AAAAAADDDDMIN. check tomshardware and techpowerup review again with enable PBO turbo beat 14900k in cyberpank,,,, or in google search= We found the Missing Performance: Zen 5 Tested with SMT Disabled
The naming is even more deceptive. It's actually a 9600 non x given the TDP (65w), but the difference is still small, yet it costs 40% more than a 7600 in my area. They also don't include a box cooler when the 7600, 7700 did, making it even worse value. i've also seen the 7600 go for as low as half the price of the 9600x, so unless they give it a major price cut, it's horrible value
The price difference is in the extra cores. Games don't benefit from anything past 6 Cores so the 9 performs the same as the 5. The benefit to the 9 is the multitasking if you need it like streaming, video editing, rendering ect. For gaming solely than a 9 is pointless. These comparisons are bad as well. If they compared fps while gaming and streaming, the 7's fps would drop dramatically while the 9 would stay the same. So the cost is justified if you genuinely need the extra 4 cores compared to the 7. Now if you just want gaming only than go for the 5 as it has only 6 cores and thats all you need. These complaints on price are just from people who don't understand the differences between them and there designed purposes.
Hi guys, the power consumption indicator is not displayed quite correctly on the 9600x in this video, I have already sorted out this problem and in subsequent videos this indicator on new AMD processors will be displayed more correctly, so keep this in mind. In general the performance of new amd processors in games is just some kind of joke(
How come results of 9 series and 7 series same ??? I think you are doing something wrong, or 9 series need some serious updates. Because same performance? How is this possible!! 😮 really is this some joke ?? 😃 😐
@@HeartOfAdeII lmao the 7800X3D is wiping the floor with evey mini nuclear reactor from intel with less than half the power consumption. Try again fanboy.
@@chadfang2267 I don't care how you will respond to my message, because as an overclocker I only have one real truth. 13900K 5.8GHz + 7600-8400MHz super tight 50ns ram = wiped 7800X3D. Intel is the fastest cpu. No amount of AMDesparation and power draw fapping can change the fact.
@@chadfang2267I don't care how you will respond to my message, because as an overclocker I only have one real truth. 13900K 5.8GHz + 7600-8400MHz super tight 50ns ram = wiped 7800X3D. Intel is the fastest cpu. No amount of AMDesparation and power draw screaming can change the fact.
I had read somewhere someone said they overhauled the cache system and the X3D variants will have greater gains than the 7000 series did with 3DVCache, we'll see I guess @get-in-2-get-out774
in these games, note that you can run these games on a 12100 with similiar performance and it costs half of a 7600x. 🤣 Ya'll AMD fanboys are so clueless
There are people out there that don t check cpu performances; they'll just see this is the latest gen cpu and buy it; there are people that just believe amd numbers where they said the 9700x is 7% faster than 13700k, when in fact it s slower; amd even called the 5900xt 4% faster than 13700k; when in reality 13700k is 35% faster
@@Richdadful it s funny that they claimed that 9700x is 4% faster in 7zip than 13700k; while in reality 13700k is around 45% faster; idk what they did to botch the intel results; like they disabled the E cores or P cores to obtain such a bad result; 9600x price is so bad that for 25$ more i can buy a 13700kf; or for 125$ less than a 9600x an i7 12700kf
That's from the manufacturing process alone. There's absolutely zero improvement here. Zen+ was a bigger improvement and that wasn't even considered a new generation.
at 1440p you are GPU bound in all games (except games that love extra cache) so all of them will be similar except when cache matters then the 7800x3d will be somewhat better. Buy a 7500f and use the saving on your GPU or better storage.
@@hip_check you can get a r5 7500F for really cheap, i've overclocked mine and it runs cool while having the same r23 scores of a r5 7600x, i'll give it a tweak and call it r5 9600x 🤣 What a disappointment AMD
The number of IPC improvement will differ in each program run. Zen 5 is dramatically faster for web server and AI workloads, but it's a joke in gaming.
@@damianabregba7476 we are not confused with the specs of these CPUs brother. I'm an AMD fan I have a 7500f and an rx 6800. They marketed them to gamers, they showed us fake gaming benchmarks, they also showed fake workload benchmarks. There's no way around it. AMD should be sued for false advertising.
My 7600x/4090 is looking okay right now. I was looking at the 9700x but we know how that turned out. I'm hoping X3D saves Zen 5. If not, I'm getting a 7800X3D, but not until we know more about the 9800X3D
Remember AMD had two years! Also this is a different architecture but the performance gains are so minimal that it's nothing. Just get the Ryzen 7600 or 7700 to save your money and get a better GPU.
yeah this is the problem with the whole moors law thing, tech can only go so far and the major break throughs have already happened, when they made am5+ the x3d stuff. so in reality we wont see any more jumps like we saw from am4 to am5. and the only reason the 5800x3d was fast cause they used am5 technology to create it. now its just just gonna be small gains if any.. even the 9800x3d is still based of the 7800x3d, no new tech there.. its gonna get stagnant real fast. I highly recommend everyone to just grab a 7800x3d if build a new system today and you will be good for the next 10 years+
Actually, it's pretty impressive they managed to get the exact same performance on 2 radically different cpu architecture, you would think Zen 5 might maybe perform better or worse there and there but nop, it's exactly the same accross the board.
@@BroBro-tr2cw The 65W Ryzen 5 7600 easily outsold the 105W 7600X because it was literally just 1-2% slower, the 9600X doesn't show any meaningfull efficiency improvement.
dude i dont understand, an 80$ difference in the price is huge compared to the performance difference. I'd definitely go with the 7600X. I honestly expected at least 30-40% difference if the price is just like that.
You know what I was stuck with a 3600 for so long finally I will buy a 7600X and a 4070 Super tomorrow. Thanks for the 9000 series launch the price for 7600X dropped so much in my country Its around ~$175 USD. So AMD wants a $100 more dollar for 5-10 fps and saving me ~10 watt with exact core count. What a shame.
Did someone do benchmarks of Zen 5 with a GPU most people actually buy?? Like a RTX 4060 or 4070??? I mean, I'd like to know if with a GPU like that, CPU choice actually matters... Or they will all perform the same.
Hey at least you have 5 fps more in witcher 3… jokes aside, this is a missed opportunity to make an important performance leap in the market, which is a shame…
People don't understand this. It offers a little more performance with less power consumption. This is a good improvement in terms of power consumption. Ryzen 5 9600x = 65w - Ryzen 5 7600x = 105w. 9600x is %7 faster.
@@HeartOfAdeII yes; and didn t cost 30% more at launch; they basically replaced 13th gen at same market price with a slightly better performance, and the I7 got 4 E cores bonus too which helps in multicore tasks; and that after 1 year, not 2 years of development
@@HeartOfAdeII to be fair alder lake was really good; like the i5 12400f is faster than the i9 11900k; arrow lake looks as impresssive; to be fair intel always was good on the first gen on a new socket; then they release mostly filler new gens for the same socket; based on the leaks each P core will be around 18% faster and each E core 35% faster than raptor lake; the core 3 ultra will be a 4P+4E cpu; that will be an amazing gaming beast; bcs rn the i3 is around 70% of i9s power with only 4 cores; and the arrow lake E cores at 4.6 ghz which is their base speed, are as strong as 4.6ghz raptor lake P cores; basically the i5-13500 P cores; arrow lakes will be amazing cpus for gamers; especially the core 3 ultra and 5 ultra bcs they ll provide close to i9 raptor lake performance at a much lower price
Very little difference and even that might be explained by the 9600x being fresh out the box and the 7600x being used for a couple of years. So wha tis the use case for the 9000 series? Productivity?
@@oxaile4021 yeah no competition = stagnant tech, cause they can release the same thing and make money selling it, and when competition comes around they release something a bit faster to keep up.
So, pay 100 bucks more for almost equal performance or a little greater with less power consumption. You should at least make it same price or close to it.
It's very safe to say that 9--- series processors, atleast right now are fairly dissapointing, that on top of the ridiculously inconsistent values reported by AMD, it feels wrong to even call 9000 series a new architecture.
Intel is failing, AMD’s only competition is itself. And I can see that 2024 AMD failed to compete against 2022 AMD due to similar perf and higher price.
I think the 9000 Series is much faster, but are somehow Power Locked? I Think removing that Power Lock, they would be going around 120watts, giving an increase of maybe 15% Performance or more?
Remember, these are both one of the cheapest CPU's in the 7 and 9 series, and are bottlenecking the 4090 even though it looks like the CPU's are under 50% load (they are at max clocks alsmost the entire time). There is an improvement in the .1% lows, which is very noticeable when actually gaming. Pair it with ANY X3D chip (maybe not 5 series, unsure) and it crushes these CPU's.
There is nothing to choose neither on AMD or Intel side if you're already on Intel 12 series or AMD 5 series. Wait for the next socket and new generation of CPUs.
Yup. Sitting on a 5800X and that won't be changing until either AMD starts showing some real improvement or Intel manages to stop their cpus from self immolating.
But it can't be like that, looks like there is a bottle neck in infinite fabric or memory controller frequencies, it's necessary to try to increase these clocks
Games :
CYBERPUNK 2077 - 0:09
The Witcher 3 - 1:05
Starfield - 1:58
Microsoft Flight Simulator - 2:48
Hogwarts Legacy - 3:42
CS2 - 4:39
Ghost of Tsushima - 5:36
Forza Horizon 5 - 6:29
PUBG - 7:41
Horizon Forbidden West - 8:28
System:
Windows 11
Ryzen 5 7600X - bit.ly/3ULWytC
Ryzen 5 9600X - bit.ly/46HNaNJ
MSI MPG X670E CARBON
G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz - bit.ly/3XlBGdU
CPU Cooler - be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 - bit.ly/35G5atV
GeForce RTX 4090 24GB - bit.ly/3CSaMCj
SSD - 2xSAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB - bit.ly/2NmWeQe
Power Supply CORSAIR HX Series HX1200 1200W - bit.ly/3EZWtNj
thx for including PUBG, but please use very low settings instead of ultra, as ultra settings make game stutter very hard, and no one who play PUBG dont use ultra
AAAAAADDDDMIN. check tomshardware and techpowerup review again with enable PBO turbo beat 14900k in cyberpank,,,,
or in google search= We found the Missing Performance: Zen 5 Tested with SMT Disabled
We will all see the real difference after 2 months.
Maybe u need to set low all graphic and play at 1080p, bcos 4090 is kinda trying hard on FH5 and HFW
Is testing done with the 9600x TDP @ 65w or 105w?
Is this running Win 11 23H2?
it may not be faster but at least it is more expensive
That is not something that's good to hear. It's more like Intel 11 gen actually haha
The naming is even more deceptive. It's actually a 9600 non x given the TDP (65w), but the difference is still small, yet it costs 40% more than a 7600 in my area. They also don't include a box cooler when the 7600, 7700 did, making it even worse value. i've also seen the 7600 go for as low as half the price of the 9600x, so unless they give it a major price cut, it's horrible value
🤡💀🤡💀
HAHAHAHA good one
The price difference is in the extra cores. Games don't benefit from anything past 6 Cores so the 9 performs the same as the 5. The benefit to the 9 is the multitasking if you need it like streaming, video editing, rendering ect. For gaming solely than a 9 is pointless. These comparisons are bad as well. If they compared fps while gaming and streaming, the 7's fps would drop dramatically while the 9 would stay the same. So the cost is justified if you genuinely need the extra 4 cores compared to the 7. Now if you just want gaming only than go for the 5 as it has only 6 cores and thats all you need. These complaints on price are just from people who don't understand the differences between them and there designed purposes.
AMD never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
😂😂😂
I thinks they have actually. Didn't learnt from 7000's series! 🤦♂😂😂
@@HawkyForLife-j8ni mean they improved a tiny bit better then intel literally becoming worse then the previous gen
it might not be better for gaming, but it's better for mulithreaded workloads. Don't forget zen is hand me down from server lol.
This performance makes 14th gen look like a generational upgrade over 13th gen 💀
Hi guys, the power consumption indicator is not displayed quite correctly on the 9600x in this video, I have already sorted out this problem and in subsequent videos this indicator on new AMD processors will be displayed more correctly, so keep this in mind. In general the performance of new amd processors in games is just some kind of joke(
We still wait for 9000x3d bro! ❤ Love Your comparsion.
do a test of these new ryzen's stock vs overclock. also overclock vs other processors like 7800x3d.. etc.
How come results of 9 series and 7 series same ??? I think you are doing something wrong, or 9 series need some serious updates. Because same performance? How is this possible!! 😮 really is this some joke ?? 😃 😐
@@FWnatanzin a stock 7800x3d will still win, if you overclock it nothing could compete..
AMD is a joke since Bulldozer.
this is what happens when there's no competition , same thing happened when intel was on top
100%
No competition? You mean 9700X sometimes getting slapped by 12700K from 2021? Intel is, pretty much as always, on top, and extremely competitive
@@HeartOfAdeII lmao the 7800X3D is wiping the floor with evey mini nuclear reactor from intel with less than half the power consumption. Try again fanboy.
@@chadfang2267 I don't care how you will respond to my message, because as an overclocker I only have one real truth.
13900K 5.8GHz + 7600-8400MHz super tight 50ns ram = wiped 7800X3D. Intel is the fastest cpu. No amount of AMDesparation and power draw fapping can change the fact.
@@chadfang2267I don't care how you will respond to my message, because as an overclocker I only have one real truth.
13900K 5.8GHz + 7600-8400MHz super tight 50ns ram = wiped 7800X3D. Intel is the fastest cpu. No amount of AMDesparation and power draw screaming can change the fact.
This is 2 years of improvement, and a brand new architecture LOL.
2 years of nothing,
The new arch is called - 'Waste of Sand_2024 AMD edition'
I had read somewhere someone said they overhauled the cache system and the X3D variants will have greater gains than the 7000 series did with 3DVCache, we'll see I guess @get-in-2-get-out774
@@rasluffi so that is the lasted bunch of BS that clowns are believing?
Like Intel from core 2000 to core 7000
@@lordbronn2496 Exactly. We don’t need that again.
AMD had gone full on 7700k moment 😭
so zen 5% was true
1% frame time is even worst than 7600X, Jeeez. :/
5% ? Where ? 5% of what ?
It can barely match the 7600X 💀
@@get-in-2-get-out774 in pbo maybe 🤔
Both are same cpus but only difference is 4nm on 9600X
So you can save like 80 dollars by just going with the 7600x and only lose like 5%. That honestly makes the 9600x look pretty bad in terms of value.
That is actually really disappointing
This gpu may be better at multitasking rather than just gaming
Wow!! The performance upgrade is undeniable! =O
The 4060 ti of cpu...
?
@@FWnatanzin
Mean no progress
@@Артур-_-Анкерштейн The only reason AMD is doing this is because intel can't compete right now
@@noobybad7550 Are you sure, the Intel 15th hasn't even been released yet, how does AMD know that Intel can't compete?
Even worst than 4060ti. This is worst AMD premiere since garbage rx 6400. I know that Intel sell broken CPU, but still Shame on you AMD shame on You.
Huge disappointment
Intel: shooting themselves now.
AMD: WRITE IT DOWN, WRITE IT DOWN.
BRUH
this made intel 14th gen looks like a huge leap
i am sure AMD fanboy is loving this generational improvement and the good value pricing
Bro, I have AI featured AMD processor
8:39 tf 💀
@@EX0007 basically 7600x is average 1 fps faster than 9600x
this is actually ridiculous.
More expensive than 7600x yet has very munimal performance gain? 4060ti all over again.
in these games, note that you can run these games on a 12100 with similiar performance and it costs half of a 7600x.
🤣 Ya'll AMD fanboys are so clueless
It became clear why AMD kept silent about the Intel defective processor incident. They are screwed with the new generation processors.
Exactly
Those are Intel level gains.
Here I am, with my 7800X3D, perfectly content with the 1080ti of CPUs.
7800x3d with 2070S,,,for now with this GPU,,,,, honestly it runs perfect
@@Zimzim-v2x with the 2070 Super, you're heavily GPU bottlenecked. So you're pretty much maxing that boi out 100% of the time lol.
@@joshuapicarello probably,,,only game playing is CS2...more than happy
@@Zimzim-v2x ah alright
honestly you are right the 7800x3d seems to be going to last for long, time will tell
Is this upgrade or downgrade?
None same chip overclocked
I'll reply in non-broken English: I don't know.
Middlegrade
side grade
Wait until the 9800x3d gives you 7800x3d level of performance but costs 40% more 😂
yes
DJ Khaled to AMD: "Congratulations, you played yourself"
Hahahaha amd is joking us
AMD is trying to not be intel
They wanna lower power consumption for future CPU’s
If AMD didn’t lower power consumption then it would be 30% better
7800x3d after two years….. im the king
Went up in price with like $75😂😂 AMD is a joke... it was $350 now its back to $425
Seriously, everyone who bought it early basically won the cpu lottery.
@@ericmann1781 yep bought it earlyish for around 380$. its up to around 450$ now.
@@ZipKroon in eu its 500 for 1 week it was not even buyable
This isn't even an upgrade! It's just a sidegrade.
why is the power consumption of 9600x exactly 88 watts in all tests?
Is this a monitoring error or a targeted restriction?
RTX 4060+9600X= Remastered edition.
I don't understand. Who is gonna buy this cpu? Just get the 7600x for cheaper right? Or am I missing something?
There are people out there that don t check cpu performances; they'll just see this is the latest gen cpu and buy it; there are people that just believe amd numbers where they said the 9700x is 7% faster than 13700k, when in fact it s slower; amd even called the 5900xt 4% faster than 13700k; when in reality 13700k is 35% faster
@@KoItai1 they must have drawn graph and shown it's faster.😂
@@Richdadful it s funny that they claimed that 9700x is 4% faster in 7zip than 13700k; while in reality 13700k is around 45% faster; idk what they did to botch the intel results; like they disabled the E cores or P cores to obtain such a bad result; 9600x price is so bad that for 25$ more i can buy a 13700kf; or for 125$ less than a 9600x an i7 12700kf
Coperate wants us to tell the difference between these: *Shows the AMD Ryzen 5 7600X & 9600X.*
Me: They're the same picture.
Here are the new processors, no different from the old ones🤣🤣🤣
9k series is scam bro
better AVX-512 though
Just like 14th Intel's
Better 1%Low in Cyberpunk, wow, AMD Zen5 did it
extra 80usd 😂😂😂
So Far the New Generation looks almost like a Rebadge of Ryzen 7000 Series just with better power Consumption.
By 6w...
That's from the manufacturing process alone. There's absolutely zero improvement here. Zen+ was a bigger improvement and that wasn't even considered a new generation.
not even in every game, in some games consumes more.
I need a comparison between 7700 vs 7600x vs 7800x3d at 1440p
Thinking about upgrading my 3700x to AM5 and I second this.
at 1440p you are GPU bound in all games (except games that love extra cache) so all of them will be similar except when cache matters then the 7800x3d will be somewhat better. Buy a 7500f and use the saving on your GPU or better storage.
@@hip_check you can get a r5 7500F for really cheap, i've overclocked mine and it runs cool while having the same r23 scores of a r5 7600x, i'll give it a tweak and call it r5 9600x 🤣
What a disappointment AMD
@@hip_check just get a 5800x3d; and then upgrade to am6/intel platform w/e is better at the time
@@KoItai1 Agreed 👍🏾
so much for "15% IPC improvement"
Probably in some AI benchmarks
The number of IPC improvement will differ in each program run. Zen 5 is dramatically faster for web server and AI workloads, but it's a joke in gaming.
Single core vs multi core, avx512. Maybe it is clocked slower which would make ipc still better despite same results.
@@damianabregba7476 we are not confused with the specs of these CPUs brother. I'm an AMD fan I have a 7500f and an rx 6800. They marketed them to gamers, they showed us fake gaming benchmarks, they also showed fake workload benchmarks. There's no way around it. AMD should be sued for false advertising.
The IPC improvement is very much real, it just doesn't translate into gaming performance for whatever reason. But synthetic tests do show it.
Wow so now as a ryzen 5600x owner, the only sensible upgrade is 7800x3D... Or I just wait until Zen 6
Does AMD gone intel, or this is x86's true limit?
I find it funny that LTT has a suggested video of 2 months ago with Ryzen 9xxx saying AMD is going to crush intel.
It seems Ryzen 9 was made mainly for servers. Let's wait and see how the 3D versions fare.
My 7600x/4090 is looking okay right now. I was looking at the 9700x but we know how that turned out. I'm hoping X3D saves Zen 5. If not, I'm getting a 7800X3D, but not until we know more about the 9800X3D
Hey, can you test this with the new win11 build update?
as someone who doesn't really care for intel CPUs, i hope they get their shit together. we're just gonna have more of this if they can't compete.
They focused on energy efficiency.
R5 7600x: 105W TDP
R5 9600X: 65W TDP
It doesn't have more performance but I see it as necessary. Almost half.
The lack of competition from intel enabled AMD to release these absolute trash of CPUs, 7800X3D still the undisputed king!
Bro what are you on about for real... They still can't beat intel's 2021 architecture in gaming and people still live in the AMDesparation fairytale
Insert Spiderman Meme 👉👈
Do the same test with SMT disabled, i'd like to see that. Thanks!
Zen5 it's Intel edition.
Remember AMD had two years! Also this is a different architecture but the performance gains are so minimal that it's nothing. Just get the Ryzen 7600 or 7700 to save your money and get a better GPU.
yeah this is the problem with the whole moors law thing, tech can only go so far and the major break throughs have already happened, when they made am5+ the x3d stuff. so in reality we wont see any more jumps like we saw from am4 to am5. and the only reason the 5800x3d was fast cause they used am5 technology to create it. now its just just gonna be small gains if any.. even the 9800x3d is still based of the 7800x3d, no new tech there.. its gonna get stagnant real fast. I highly recommend everyone to just grab a 7800x3d if build a new system today and you will be good for the next 10 years+
i think they just lowered the nm
It is not Zen 5. It is more like Zen 4+.😞
AMD has their very own Zen 4 Refresh
Actually, it's pretty impressive they managed to get the exact same performance on 2 radically different cpu architecture, you would think Zen 5 might maybe perform better or worse there and there but nop, it's exactly the same accross the board.
Pay extra 40% to gain 3% Performance
It’s not about performance
It’s supposed to lower power consumption
Which helps poor countries and also helps future CPU’s be more power efficient
@@BroBro-tr2cw I don't see any efficiency improvement here either
@@BroBro-tr2cw you cant be serious
@@BroBro-tr2cw The 65W Ryzen 5 7600 easily outsold the 105W 7600X because it was literally just 1-2% slower, the 9600X doesn't show any meaningfull efficiency improvement.
@@BroBro-tr2cw if R5 9600X run less than 60W vs 7600x on the same game,same fps,same power on 7600x(80-88W)....i called that efficiency
Well the CPU wars has officially ended
9600x is for the person who are building their pc after a long time
dude i dont understand, an 80$ difference in the price is huge compared to the performance difference. I'd definitely go with the 7600X. I honestly expected at least 30-40% difference if the price is just like that.
i believe youll have to enable 'performance mode' or whatever, in bios or ryzen master so that 7000 series run w max perf
that doesn't matter as long as i have a good cooler, still that's a shame on AMD.
Everyone in comments acting like they are being held at gunpoint to upgrade to 9600x
No one’s asked you to buy it 😂😂😂
В каком разрешении экрана было проведено тестирование? Есть сомнение, что в разрешении 4к. А это, уже упор в видеокарту.
You know what I was stuck with a 3600 for so long finally I will buy a 7600X and a 4070 Super tomorrow. Thanks for the 9000 series launch the price for 7600X dropped so much in my country Its around ~$175 USD. So AMD wants a $100 more dollar for 5-10 fps and saving me ~10 watt with exact core count. What a shame.
I saw more games being played in 60HZ Limit here....Bro,why DLSS on?We wanna see RAW performance...you need some tuts for your next project test...
Did someone do benchmarks of Zen 5 with a GPU most people actually buy?? Like a RTX 4060 or 4070??? I mean, I'd like to know if with a GPU like that, CPU choice actually matters... Or they will all perform the same.
Biggest upgrade of the century 👏
Hey at least you have 5 fps more in witcher 3… jokes aside, this is a missed opportunity to make an important performance leap in the market, which is a shame…
"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain". Kudos amd now you become new intel
Games??? 7800X3D and be happy
People don't understand this. It offers a little more performance with less power consumption. This is a good improvement in terms of power consumption. Ryzen 5 9600x = 65w - Ryzen 5 7600x = 105w. 9600x is %7 faster.
gg boys, its back to the 7000 series. the 9000 series is just not worth it at all
Is the same of intel gen 13 to 14
at lesat intel called gen 14 a raptor lake refresh; not a entirely new architecture of a cpu
@@KoItai1and hasn't been falsely marketed
@@HeartOfAdeII yes; and didn t cost 30% more at launch; they basically replaced 13th gen at same market price with a slightly better performance, and the I7 got 4 E cores bonus too which helps in multicore tasks; and that after 1 year, not 2 years of development
@@KoItai1 and zen5 still loses to alder lake in some games. I can't believe how behind amd is. Coffee lake vs 3 early Ryzens all over again
@@HeartOfAdeII to be fair alder lake was really good; like the i5 12400f is faster than the i9 11900k; arrow lake looks as impresssive; to be fair intel always was good on the first gen on a new socket; then they release mostly filler new gens for the same socket; based on the leaks each P core will be around 18% faster and each E core 35% faster than raptor lake; the core 3 ultra will be a 4P+4E cpu; that will be an amazing gaming beast; bcs rn the i3 is around 70% of i9s power with only 4 cores; and the arrow lake E cores at 4.6 ghz which is their base speed, are as strong as 4.6ghz raptor lake P cores; basically the i5-13500 P cores; arrow lakes will be amazing cpus for gamers; especially the core 3 ultra and 5 ultra bcs they ll provide close to i9 raptor lake performance at a much lower price
Very little difference and even that might be explained by the 9600x being fresh out the box and the 7600x being used for a couple of years.
So wha tis the use case for the 9000 series? Productivity?
curious how AMD fan girls gonna defend this performance
😂😂
we aint, this is a solid joke, nothing more then are refresh like 14 gen intel was..
We don't need to defend it. We've reached a point where intels cpus are so shit that AMD is perfectly fine selling us the same thing all over again.
@@oxaile4021 yeah no competition = stagnant tech, cause they can release the same thing and make money selling it, and when competition comes around they release something a bit faster to keep up.
Ez. They dont self destroy.
What is the best video card to combine with the ryzen 5 9600x?
This is what we've been waiting to see
9700X vs 7700 would be a great comparison too
So, pay 100 bucks more for almost equal performance or a little greater with less power consumption. You should at least make it same price or close to it.
I think that AMD and Intel made a secret agreement one year you feed me and one year you eat
It's very safe to say that 9--- series processors, atleast right now are fairly dissapointing, that on top of the ridiculously inconsistent values reported by AMD, it feels wrong to even call 9000 series a new architecture.
Excellent tests, this new CPU is basically the same but consuming less energy.
Does changing all settings to Low widen the gap of the two? Or is it the same results with Highest settings in the test 🤔
The part that is missing, while they are nearly identical performance the 9600x is doing it's performance with less power.
Intel is failing, AMD’s only competition is itself. And I can see that 2024 AMD failed to compete against 2022 AMD due to similar perf and higher price.
amd pulled a rocket lake on this one
Even rocket lake had an actual improvement clock per clock vs 10th gen
I think the 9000 Series is much faster, but are somehow Power Locked? I Think removing that Power Lock, they would be going around 120watts, giving an increase of maybe 15% Performance or more?
Remember, these are both one of the cheapest CPU's in the 7 and 9 series, and are bottlenecking the 4090 even though it looks like the CPU's are under 50% load (they are at max clocks alsmost the entire time). There is an improvement in the .1% lows, which is very noticeable when actually gaming. Pair it with ANY X3D chip (maybe not 5 series, unsure) and it crushes these CPU's.
Well this is what you call "A waste of sand" quite literally.
Wait I thought 7600x just came out? Also did AMD skip 8000 and go straight to 9000? Why do they keep skipping.
This makes me love my 7600X even more ❤
The problem is in the RAM, try with 5400/5200 ram, that's will be better
Qual processador é melhor para programação entre esses dois ?
This is not a proper cpu test. You need to test them at 1080p low
The new indicator is better than the old one @Testingames thank u👍
Cs2 in 60HZ Monitor test?
So what you're saying is it's no different from my 7600x so no real need to upgrade. Right, gotcha 👍
AMD could have salvaged the situation somewhat by selling the 9700X for 199 Euros and the 9600X for 149 Euros (in Germany).
This is one of the dumbest comments I've ever read from a business standpoint, but from a consumer perspective I agree lmao
lol same shit repackaged
There is nothing to choose neither on AMD or Intel side if you're already on Intel 12 series or AMD 5 series. Wait for the next socket and new generation of CPUs.
Yup. Sitting on a 5800X and that won't be changing until either AMD starts showing some real improvement or Intel manages to stop their cpus from self immolating.
thank you so much for benchmark the pubg,,
like from me
Wait...what?!
This difference is with a 4090, with lower cards the difference would be non-existent...how??
no make sense to buy 9600x if you can buy 7600 cheaper with with the same performance.
What if i have the opportunity to get the 9600x at 5 dollars more than the 7600x is it better?
But it can't be like that, looks like there is a bottle neck in infinite fabric or memory controller frequencies, it's necessary to try to increase these clocks