Trust me. No one understand a man's head when he's been robbed of something he thought was real for years. I'm not saying he was right. But I understand because I've been pushed to that point before over a woman j loved so hard and kids involved.
No-because it would be calling all women whores. Smashing a child’s grave is insane and the child couldn’t control the fact that it was born. It’s fine if he was upset but he behaved in a way that was borderline animalistic.
You trying to say all men need to sign an involuntary acknowledgement of paternity form? Or just that there should be proof the child is his BEFORE he signs away his rights to his child to the state?
Peonage is a crime and it begins with paternity tests. If you need a paternity test to determine who the father of your child it's likely because you can't ascertain who the father is which means you had multiple partners. There is no excuse for requiring a paternity test🤷
You going to pay for them? This comment is so stupid. Go donate all your money for it. You won’t do she a penny but want tax payers to pick up another bill. Wtf is going to pay for it, num nuts
Honest opinion. I see no reason to disrespect the dead baby like that. Also, the woman is diabolically disgusting. I think it’s tragic he can’t express his frustrations towards the true antagonist here, the woman. But what he did wasn’t respectable by any means. I think the lady should have charges pressed against her for lying like that, almost as a form of extortion tbh. And the guy… idk, I just think it was a stupid decision to smash the child’s gravestone. That’s desecrating the lasting memory of that being’s existence, yknow?? The disrespect seemed directed more towards the innocent kid than the lady and that’s why I think it wasn’t a good decision. Anyways, that’s my take. My perspective’s not set in stone or anything btw. Just what I think.
@@MrMelonsz he probably wanted to cause Severe harm and to avoid doing it to the mom he took out his frustrations on the headstone. It's unfortunate for sure. I just don't blame this man at all. We all deal differently.
@@MrMelonsz because its the closest to justice he can get. He wont get refunded like he deserves. He can't just take it back ether as no one will let him, as long as it exists no one will even pressure the mom or real dad to buy a new one. Despite being the victim there was no consequence for the mom and only he face any real consequences, and he would be treated as evil to try to take it back or even try to get repayment that would never happen. This is the only way to could even cost the mom anything, as at least now she will be expected to get a new one. This is a problem at a societal level, were we often treat things like this a done and force the victim to just accept it because actually dealing with it is troublesome. So we victim blame them for wanting justice till we corner them into situations like this.
We need to understand his emotions. Imagine going through trauma after death of "your" child and then realize it wasn't yours. He shouldn't do that but well emotions. Maybe I'm cRuEL and eViL but dead people don't care about their graves. They're dead. We should care about living people. Some time ago in my country there was a situation where a woman killed her 5-year-old child and everyone defended her on Facebook. "She wouldn't have to do this if abortion were legal!" Let's ignore the fact that the child was already 5 years old. Let's defend women no matter what they do! They don't have to face any consequences for their actions! But a man who kicked a child's grave - unforgivable. Absurd double standards.
It was HIS headstone. He bought it in memory of what he thought was his daughter. Technically speaking, ethics of law, he did no wrong. It was his to do what he will. (If I understand right via limited information.) Morally speaking...it wasn't wrong or right anymore than you turning left vs right at the intersection. Whatever gets you to your destination. In this case grief. In terms of wisdom though and making life easier down the road, he did wrong. This is an action that will probably haunt him 20 years in the future. Probably not now, and not 5 years from now. But 20...yeah. He DID love that kid afterall. and he destroyed a memorial of hers.
Desecrating a child’s gravestone will always have you in the wrong. He needs to learn to control his emotions. With that being said, what the woman did was repulsive.
I doubt that the child is in a position to care. If one believes in the afterlife the damage to a carved rock isn't going to matter to that little soul. At least most religions would place the child beyond caring about such things. The desecration is more of an issue for the mother.
@@Zebulization He probably couldn't cart the headstone away of the child who wasn't his that he paid for. So he did that. I can see him not meaning any real disrespect to the child itself. Just most likely wanted that tramp to now have to pay for her own kids headstone.
Children are not holy entities to worship thereby "desecrating" their headstone, also he paid for the headstone. Also it's not his offspring, also that was saved to be revealed as aN argument piece. What was wrong is that the child died in the first place and that this man was intentionally lied to and probably had a child that wasn't biologically his own used as a weapon in an argument.😑 Another thing why is the mother concerned about getting back at this man instead of the Loss of her child.😑
The guy finding out that the woman or whoever did that to him and just lie like that IS CRAZY THOUGH NOT GONNA LIE that's pretty evil and insane. I honestly don't know what I would do if I was in that guy's situation that just sucks though.
It not baby head stone. It living people head stone. And to my understanding it his head stone he paid for it so he has every right to do what he liked with that headstones. It was his headstone for him to remember. Like I said the headstones for the living to remember.
Desecrating a child's grave isn't right, but what she did was worse. And who knows if she was even telling the truth. She could have been lying to hurt him. Was there a DNA test or is it just her word? It must have felt like losing her twice! If he was in that child's life for the 3 short years she had, if he took care of her, if he was the only father she ever knew, then he was her Dad. Sometimes blood doesn't matter. If he was a father to her in life, then let that little girl keep his name in death. I hope he can heal and can focus on the good memories of the little girl that called him daddy❤
My soul would be destroyed, but the baby is an innocent in all this alive or dead...the mom should be held fully accountable and now the guy is grieving a baby that potentially isn't his own..they have zero accountability and the "justice system" don't care as long as they get their dollar
That's awful behaviour on his part. It's not the child's fault her mother was cheating. The grieving mother should have been legally forced to pay him back every penny for that funeral and anything he has purchased for the kid. She should also be made to pay for his emotional distress caused by her lying.
The man wouldve lost so much happiness from the child. 3 years of watching the baby laugh cry grow and then die so young while still providing even going as far to pay for the funeral and Headstone. Greiving and mourning the death of what he was told was his child to be told he was lied to. Im not justifying what he did or saying its right but in that moment of mourning and greif to pure anger he lost alot because of this womens lies.
I know, and understand the emotions. I really do. But, you cannot blame the child for the actions of the unfaithful. Also to disturb the grave site, especially that of a child. That has no excuse, and is morally wrong.
Thats the end of a messed up relationship but that Love he felt for the baby lives on. Love that i know, anyways. Imagine what that child would have experienced, if she lived, and the mom tells him she isnt his daughter...just imagine him, suddenly, no longer, Loving her anymore...sure there is pain, but you dont just stop Loving a child after you truely Loved, that child. Step dads come in 2 forms, half assed POS's, and amazing caring fathers.
I feel for the guy, but that's not right. Man or woman, as soon as we decide not to take responsibility for our own actions, we forfeit autonomy. Terrible things can happen to you, but you are still ultimately the one who has to answer for what you decide to do in turn. Men and women are always blaming each other for their actions, and it needs to stop on both sides. Otherwise, the cycle of violence and hatred will never stop.
Here in 🇦🇺 at the moment we're all going on about women and domestic violence against them not one person has yet to ask the question WHY is it happening men don't kill or beat up for nothing Law's need to change just like women have
To claim temporary insanity in Louisiana court you have to have a history of mental illness official diagnosis and treatment with 2 years history I actually qualify and have since 2017 or 2018 I forget what the year's were the first time I got locked up in the psyc ward
Honest opinion. I see no reason to disrespect the dead baby like that. Also, the woman is diabolically disgusting. I think it’s tragic he can’t express his frustrations towards the true antagonist here, the woman. But what he did wasn’t respectable by any means. I think the lady should have charges pressed against her for lying like that, almost as a form of extortion tbh. And the guy… idk, I just think it was a stupid decision to smash the child’s gravestone. That’s desecrating the lasting memory of that being’s existence, yknow?? The disrespect seemed directed more towards the innocent kid than the lady and that’s why I think it wasn’t a good decision. Anyways, that’s my take. My perspective’s not set in stone or anything btw. It’s just what I think.
Its not right that he did it. Whether it was his or not. Its still a dead child. Be angry at the woman. But in all honesty, the way he handled it, its better he smashed up a stone, instead of doing God knows what to the lady, regardless of what happened. He could have caught a body in his state, but he took it out in a way that desecrated a stone, instead of catching a body. Tbh I dont know their whole story so its hard for me to lay out judgment. But this man was already greiving the child, and in a fit of anger the mom said that the child wasnt his. His anger came from a deep place, and unfortunately it didnt look good on either of them, especially the mother using a dead child as a way to get back, or whatever it was. But truthfully, he isnt right either. Even if my heart was blown out and I was demloished inside by discovering that, I'd let the child rest easy, cut contact with the mother, and grieve in my own way about the entire situation.
I made a video for you Chloe, after watching this video. Its called Not a dad. Not a Father. Its different type of situation, but i dont see how anything is a childs fault.
He was pushed into this to hurt his ex for hurting him, but also in retrospect, he's the only father that lil baby ever knew and had, as heinous as smashing this babies custom headstone was, telling this grieving father that the baby wasn't his anyway is fathoms more deplorable, exploiting a child's death just to hurt someone because you're angry with them?? Of course shed probably say it was his fault for pushing her to that.... Alleged Victim narrative
No he wasn't right to smash the headstone of the toddler. Just because you feel angry about it still doesn't make it right. At least 2 of them guys can't control themselves. Sick of these overly emotional guys.
@@TheBossCrissCross That is life. If you think smashing up a childs grave is justifiable then you have a problem. Being a man means you uphold your own principles. Do you want to be known publicly as the guy who smashed a childs grave?
The problem is when people her about that story/video people think that he is taking it out on the kid by breaking the headstone. But he is the one that paid for it and his last name is on it. He is not taking it out on the child, he is removing what doesn't belong.
He may be very angry. But is he angry at the KID? He broke the law by smashing the headstone. He may have done that out of grief but a judge will need to decide what happens next. Likely, he will have to pay for the headstone again.
It's not illegal to break a headstone that you paid for just so you know, the only thing a cop or judge could charge him with would be trespassing if they caretaker told him he needed to leave and he didn't. I would not attempt to rebuttal my statement either. No judge is going to sentence a man to pay for breaking a headstone that he himself bought. It's not desecrating a grave due to it being he that purchased the headstone
Florida Statutes (most states have similar laws) Title XLVICRIMES Chapter 872OFFENSES CONCERNING DEAD BODIES AND GRAVESEntire Chapter SECTION 02 Injuring or removing tomb or monument; disturbing contents of grave or tomb; penalties. 872.02 Injuring or removing tomb or monument; disturbing contents of grave or tomb; penalties.- (1) A person who willfully and knowingly destroys, mutilates, defaces, injures, or removes any tomb, monument, gravestone, burial mound, earthen or shell monument containing human skeletal remains or associated burial artifacts, or other structure or thing placed or designed for a memorial of the dead, or any fence, railing, curb, or other thing intended for the protection or ornamentation of any tomb, monument, gravestone, burial mound, earthen or shell monument containing human skeletal remains or associated burial artifacts, or other structure before mentioned, or for any enclosure for the burial of the dead, or willfully destroys, mutilates, removes, cuts, breaks, or injures any tree, shrub, or plant placed or being within any such enclosure, commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
@@mr.obsidian8009 False. Tell us you know nothing about the law without saying it. There is ample precedent for this and judges have most commonly issued sentences. Here is the Florida law, but most states have something very similar: 2011 Florida Statutes Title XLVICRIMES Chapter 872OFFENSES CONCERNING DEAD BODIES AND GRAVESEntire Chapter SECTION 02 Injuring or removing tomb or monument; disturbing contents of grave or tomb; penalties. 872.02 Injuring or removing tomb or monument; disturbing contents of grave or tomb; penalties.- (1) A person who willfully and knowingly destroys, mutilates, defaces, injures, or removes any tomb, monument, gravestone, burial mound, earthen or shell monument containing human skeletal remains or associated burial artifacts, or other structure or thing placed or designed for a memorial of the dead, or any fence, railing, curb, or other thing intended for the protection or ornamentation of any tomb, monument, gravestone, burial mound, earthen or shell monument containing human skeletal remains or associated burial artifacts, or other structure before mentioned, or for any enclosure for the burial of the dead, or willfully destroys, mutilates, removes, cuts, breaks, or injures any tree, shrub, or plant placed or being within any such enclosure, commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
I been in them shoes...I disagree with the men on your pod cast I think he's a week individual to do that ...that child didn't do anything the mom did ...
So are you saying he should have smashed the woman's property instead of the headstone that he purchased for the funeral of a child that wasn't his that instead of the child's mother grieving the loss of, the mother instead using the child as an argument piece, yet the man seems to be pointed out by people in the comments as in the wrong?
Yeah no, it's immoral and wrong to do that. A (strong) man is in control of his anger, and a (mature) man isn't reactionary. Meaning that when the calamity befalls you, you do not let your emotions guide your actions. That doesn't mean that you don't get to cry and grieve or feel wronged, but you have to act right. Return an evil with that which is better. Moral actions or judgements are not rooted in emotions, but rather, in intellectual analyses. I consider that a weak response by a weak man, as a weak man would have a weak moment like that, whereas a strong man would keep it together and remain upright. And you can play the emo card all you want, but destroying the child's headstone isn't something that you can justify, except by lingering on (said emotional) weakness. "Temporary insanity", yeah sure. There's no benefit in it and I think it's an insult to the dead child. For what crime is he punishing the child? Or does smashing the headstone reverse anything? In fact, doing that could be described as grave desecration, even if he bought the stone. You have to condemn a wrong when you see/hear it, and I think these dudes in the video lack the wisdom and insight to do that. But then again, we follow the Islamic code, and morality to us isn't based on gut feelings and whatever feels good. Perhaps the individual in question can still take some kind of legal steps against the woman, but his actions are wrong and I would certainly reject that as an acceptable response. The woman who did that to him is out of her mind, by the way.
It's immoral and wrong to smash the headstone that a man purchased himself for a child he thought was his that wasn't, that mother used as an argument piece instead of mourning her offspring? I'll concur with you on the calamity bit. I will not get behind the men should suck it up and just deal with their emotions in silence. Calling a man weak for taking the frustration out on the headstone is lack luster here as it is far stronger for the man not to aim his anger at people rather than his property being the headstone that he was both morally and legally free to do with as he saw fit. Play the emo card all you want? What is that supposed to refer to? emotions are valid and repressing them can lead to far more severe outbursts of anger and depression. Repressing emotions for prolonged periods has inveriably lead to murder and suicide. Children that are 3 years old have little comprehension or interest in what a gravestone even is. The headstone was purchased by the man who smashed it. Pretty sure I just justified the smashing of the headstone without relying on the emotive component. Smashing the headstone gave him closure that otherwise could have resulted in this situation escalating to the death of the mother and himself by suicide or worse. Cause damages in excess of $250 to real or personal property that is maintained as a place of interment of human remains. Except the property was HIS. He paid for it.🤷 Grace desecration refers to the property of others. If he hadn't paid for it himself it would be felony destruction of property/grave. I think you lack the wisdom or insight to properly express your emotions or you would not be so dead set on repressing them and calling people weak who simply haven't learned yet how to properly express anger. Who is we, because I don't remember agreeing to any Islamic code, I do agree on the last part, and that he could have made better choices but in the end the only one in the wrong is she who used her child as a pawn, and she who withheld the truth from a man in is possibly worst hours of sadness. You are certainly welcome and entitled to your opinions as I am mine. Gravesite vandalism is a felony, however arresting someone for breaking their own objects or purchased property is a victimless incident and one could easily defend against it by questioning wether prosecution can prove intent, guilt, and that he did not himself purchase the gravestone.
I know a LOT of people are going to disagree with me on this.... but if he spent years buying his daughter gifts and was STILL ALIVE when the mother told him it wasn't his daughter..... would it then be right for him to go smash and destroy all the gifts he got her because of the anger he felt toward the mother?..... Don't take your Love back from someone who hasn't hurt you, and don't take your anger out on the innocent..... I fully understand the anger, but there should be lines anger shouldn't cross ... because you have to remember you DID care about them and they DID pass.... don't dishonor and disrespect someone's passing because your mad at someone else...let your Love be your Love no matter what 💞💋💞❤️💞🌹
@@joesephnicholls1363 I honestly don't think I expected it to be equivalent, because I also don't think that either... I was trying to reach a point where we're able to go hey, should I take back the Love that I gave to someone who's done nothing to me, just because another person made me angry.... because regardless of whether or not it's his daughter, ...that little girl is in the ground and frankly didn't deserve it... she deserved a better burial than that as a living PERSON... and it was taken away from her because the anger didn't go to the right place...❤️❤️
The man bought the gravestone he smashed to begin with, the dead have no use for a gravestone, 3 year olds mostly dont even know what a gravestone is the mother didnt care because as soon as an argument occured it was used against him. If anything is fucked up it's what that woman did to the man.
Dont care, he didnt have a right to destroy the gravestone. Get over it and move on, it was the gravestone to a 3 year old on top of that overall piece of shit move
That's gross, don't take your anger out on the poor baby.. if he is mad he should go after the mother not the baby, maybe take the headstone down or something but to destroy it is like a ultimate disrespect
sry but wrong idc hate the mom not the baby that he had loved regardless 🖕 the blood makes u family i feel for him for real but that baby had nothing to do with the mom being trash
You lost your child and now you lose her again. Your memories are wrong, she was never your child. Bullshit, of course, if you raise them then they are yours. This kind of thing is just so fucked up.
So he was totally justified for desecrating a grave of an innocent child but when a woman smashes her infidel husband’s car she’s abusive-according to you people.
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I don’t agree with what the man did, however in that moment of anger and grief he definitely wasn’t in the right frame of mind.
He paid for the headstone
Trust me. No one understand a man's head when he's been robbed of something he thought was real for years. I'm not saying he was right. But I understand because I've been pushed to that point before over a woman j loved so hard and kids involved.
@@chiefbigbeef52 it’s like waking up from the best dream you’ve ever had, only to realize that that’s all it was; a dream.
My deepest condolences
I'm not saying he's right, but I get it, too. He was betrayed, and he had love for her. Anger from what that woman did drove him to that.
Recording yourself smashing a CHILD’S grave isn’t normal coping. It’s straight up insane.
Kids dead . Only mother andhim . He payed for the gravestone . It's his
He paid for the headstone
This is one of the reasons why DNA paternity testing must be mandatory before a presumed father signs a birth certificate.
There is no excuse.
No-because it would be calling all women whores. Smashing a child’s grave is insane and the child couldn’t control the fact that it was born. It’s fine if he was upset but he behaved in a way that was borderline animalistic.
You mean women should stop being allowed to put presumptions on a birth record?
You trying to say all men need to sign an involuntary acknowledgement of paternity form? Or just that there should be proof the child is his BEFORE he signs away his rights to his child to the state?
Peonage is a crime and it begins with paternity tests. If you need a paternity test to determine who the father of your child it's likely because you can't ascertain who the father is which means you had multiple partners. There is no excuse for requiring a paternity test🤷
You going to pay for them? This comment is so stupid. Go donate all your money for it. You won’t do she a penny but want tax payers to pick up another bill. Wtf is going to pay for it, num nuts
It was justified yet disrespectful to the baby herself.
The mother might have it coming, but the baby had no fault in the matter.
Thank you for the recent video, your passion and dedication are truly motivating and appreciated.
There is no right/wrong here...
Yeah until you're him, you have no idea
Regarding the dad that's correct, but the mom is absolutely in the wrong.
Honest opinion. I see no reason to disrespect the dead baby like that.
Also, the woman is diabolically disgusting.
I think it’s tragic he can’t express his frustrations towards the true antagonist here, the woman.
But what he did wasn’t respectable by any means.
I think the lady should have charges pressed against her for lying like that, almost as a form of extortion tbh.
And the guy… idk, I just think it was a stupid decision to smash the child’s gravestone.
That’s desecrating the lasting memory of that being’s existence, yknow??
The disrespect seemed directed more towards the innocent kid than the lady and that’s why I think it wasn’t a good decision.
Anyways, that’s my take. My perspective’s not set in stone or anything btw. Just what I think.
@@MrMelonsz he probably wanted to cause Severe harm and to avoid doing it to the mom he took out his frustrations on the headstone. It's unfortunate for sure. I just don't blame this man at all. We all deal differently.
@@MrMelonsz because its the closest to justice he can get. He wont get refunded like he deserves. He can't just take it back ether as no one will let him, as long as it exists no one will even pressure the mom or real dad to buy a new one. Despite being the victim there was no consequence for the mom and only he face any real consequences, and he would be treated as evil to try to take it back or even try to get repayment that would never happen. This is the only way to could even cost the mom anything, as at least now she will be expected to get a new one. This is a problem at a societal level, were we often treat things like this a done and force the victim to just accept it because actually dealing with it is troublesome. So we victim blame them for wanting justice till we corner them into situations like this.
I lost my brother at 8yrs old and he was on 9, so I know that pain and still feel it at 35
We need to understand his emotions. Imagine going through trauma after death of "your" child and then realize it wasn't yours. He shouldn't do that but well emotions. Maybe I'm cRuEL and eViL but dead people don't care about their graves. They're dead. We should care about living people. Some time ago in my country there was a situation where a woman killed her 5-year-old child and everyone defended her on Facebook. "She wouldn't have to do this if abortion were legal!" Let's ignore the fact that the child was already 5 years old. Let's defend women no matter what they do! They don't have to face any consequences for their actions! But a man who kicked a child's grave - unforgivable. Absurd double standards.
It was HIS headstone. He bought it in memory of what he thought was his daughter.
Technically speaking, ethics of law, he did no wrong. It was his to do what he will. (If I understand right via limited information.)
Morally speaking...it wasn't wrong or right anymore than you turning left vs right at the intersection. Whatever gets you to your destination. In this case grief.
In terms of wisdom though and making life easier down the road, he did wrong. This is an action that will probably haunt him 20 years in the future. Probably not now, and not 5 years from now. But 20...yeah. He DID love that kid afterall. and he destroyed a memorial of hers.
There needs to be some kind of punishment for this kind of DNA trickery.
Desecrating a child’s gravestone will always have you in the wrong. He needs to learn to control his emotions. With that being said, what the woman did was repulsive.
I doubt that the child is in a position to care. If one believes in the afterlife the damage to a carved rock isn't going to matter to that little soul. At least most religions would place the child beyond caring about such things. The desecration is more of an issue for the mother.
@@Zebulization He probably couldn't cart the headstone away of the child who wasn't his that he paid for. So he did that. I can see him not meaning any real disrespect to the child itself.
Just most likely wanted that tramp to now have to pay for her own kids headstone.
Children are not holy entities to worship thereby "desecrating" their headstone, also he paid for the headstone. Also it's not his offspring, also that was saved to be revealed as aN argument piece. What was wrong is that the child died in the first place and that this man was intentionally lied to and probably had a child that wasn't biologically his own used as a weapon in an argument.😑
Another thing why is the mother concerned about getting back at this man instead of the Loss of her child.😑
@@Zebulizationcorrect but again the mother is more concerned with getting back at the man then with grieving the loss of her own offspring
I'm sure a Dead 3 year olds not going to care about its gravestone it isn't even old enough necessarily to comprehend what a gravestone is.
Maybe this baby he loved so much had his last name on the baby headstone. It must have been so unbearable to see feel so betrayed.
It’s not right in anyway. Be mad at the mother not the child. The kid didn’t live long enough to do him wrong.
The caring sex, they know exactly which buttons to press because they care so much!
When your used and feel nothing you tend to go nuclear he chose not to harm anyone directly
The guy finding out that the woman or whoever did that to him and just lie like that IS CRAZY THOUGH NOT GONNA LIE that's pretty evil and insane.
I honestly don't know what I would do if I was in that guy's situation that just sucks though.
It not baby head stone. It living people head stone. And to my understanding it his head stone he paid for it so he has every right to do what he liked with that headstones. It was his headstone for him to remember. Like I said the headstones for the living to remember.
Desecrating a child's grave isn't right, but what she did was worse. And who knows if she was even telling the truth. She could have been lying to hurt him. Was there a DNA test or is it just her word?
It must have felt like losing her twice!
If he was in that child's life for the 3 short years she had, if he took care of her, if he was the only father she ever knew, then he was her Dad.
Sometimes blood doesn't matter.
If he was a father to her in life, then let that little girl keep his name in death.
I hope he can heal and can focus on the good memories of the little girl that called him daddy❤
There is no excuse for vandalising a grave, these three men saying it wasn't wrong is disgusting.
He paid for it
It's not vandalism when it's your own property 🤦
Everything is wrong about it ...
My soul would be destroyed, but the baby is an innocent in all this alive or dead...the mom should be held fully accountable and now the guy is grieving a baby that potentially isn't his own..they have zero accountability and the "justice system" don't care as long as they get their dollar
I don't care who's kid it is. That's fucking disgusting. I get anger but that's too much in my opinion
That's awful behaviour on his part. It's not the child's fault her mother was cheating. The grieving mother should have been legally forced to pay him back every penny for that funeral and anything he has purchased for the kid. She should also be made to pay for his emotional distress caused by her lying.
Oh you mean the headstone that he bought and destroyed that was awful behavior on his part I agree with the rest though
The man wouldve lost so much happiness from the child. 3 years of watching the baby laugh cry grow and then die so young while still providing even going as far to pay for the funeral and Headstone. Greiving and mourning the death of what he was told was his child to be told he was lied to.
Im not justifying what he did or saying its right but in that moment of mourning and greif to pure anger he lost alot because of this womens lies.
I know, and understand the emotions. I really do. But, you cannot blame the child for the actions of the unfaithful. Also to disturb the grave site, especially that of a child. That has no excuse, and is morally wrong.
Thats the end of a messed up relationship but that Love he felt for the baby lives on. Love that i know, anyways.
Imagine what that child would have experienced, if she lived, and the mom tells him she isnt his daughter...just imagine him, suddenly, no longer, Loving her anymore...sure there is pain, but you dont just stop Loving a child after you truely Loved, that child.
Step dads come in 2 forms, half assed POS's, and amazing caring fathers.
I don’t agree with the father smashing the head stone, but I get it. 😢
misplaced anger, its not the childs fault its the mothers
Not like he dug her up cause he wanted the casket too
I can kind of understand how it would feel, but no I could not have smashed it he must have felt like his daughter died twice 😢
I probably wouldn't had done that but I would had been mad as hell
It's not the child's fault.
That man couldn't of said it better, "it was an irrational reaction to an irrational action"!!
It was sociopathic.
@@amayaberstein yeah i suppose you're right, but I still agree with that man's statement
He was betrayed , absolutely no reason to take it out on the childs grave. Desecrating her grave solves nothing and she was innocent.
That man is evil
I feel for the guy, but that's not right. Man or woman, as soon as we decide not to take responsibility for our own actions, we forfeit autonomy. Terrible things can happen to you, but you are still ultimately the one who has to answer for what you decide to do in turn. Men and women are always blaming each other for their actions, and it needs to stop on both sides. Otherwise, the cycle of violence and hatred will never stop.
Jesus Christ let eachother speak.
Here in 🇦🇺 at the moment we're all going on about women and domestic violence against them not one person has yet to ask the question
WHY is it happening men don't kill or beat up for nothing
Law's need to change just like women have
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To claim temporary insanity in Louisiana court you have to have a history of mental illness official diagnosis and treatment with 2 years history I actually qualify and have since 2017 or 2018 I forget what the year's were the first time I got locked up in the psyc ward
I kinda need a crossover between Roma Army and The Dadvocate
Roma wtf? Dude was suffering but nothing she did will EVER justify that. He had every right? I have an easier time excusing slavery.
What you said is more wrong than what he did.
Honest opinion. I see no reason to disrespect the dead baby like that.
Also, the woman is diabolically disgusting.
I think it’s tragic he can’t express his frustrations towards the true antagonist here, the woman.
But what he did wasn’t respectable by any means.
I think the lady should have charges pressed against her for lying like that, almost as a form of extortion tbh.
And the guy… idk, I just think it was a stupid decision to smash the child’s gravestone.
That’s desecrating the lasting memory of that being’s existence, yknow??
The disrespect seemed directed more towards the innocent kid than the lady and that’s why I think it wasn’t a good decision.
Anyways, that’s my take. My perspective’s not set in stone or anything btw. It’s just what I think.
I'm not saying he's right for doing that but I understand.
Its not right that he did it. Whether it was his or not. Its still a dead child.
Be angry at the woman.
But in all honesty, the way he handled it, its better he smashed up a stone, instead of doing God knows what to the lady, regardless of what happened.
He could have caught a body in his state, but he took it out in a way that desecrated a stone, instead of catching a body.
Tbh I dont know their whole story so its hard for me to lay out judgment. But this man was already greiving the child, and in a fit of anger the mom said that the child wasnt his.
His anger came from a deep place, and unfortunately it didnt look good on either of them, especially the mother using a dead child as a way to get back, or whatever it was.
But truthfully, he isnt right either. Even if my heart was blown out and I was demloished inside by discovering that, I'd let the child rest easy, cut contact with the mother, and grieve in my own way about the entire situation.
I made a video for you Chloe, after watching this video.
Its called Not a dad. Not a Father.
Its different type of situation, but i dont see how anything is a childs fault.
He was pushed into this to hurt his ex for hurting him, but also in retrospect, he's the only father that lil baby ever knew and had, as heinous as smashing this babies custom headstone was, telling this grieving father that the baby wasn't his anyway is fathoms more deplorable, exploiting a child's death just to hurt someone because you're angry with them?? Of course shed probably say it was his fault for pushing her to that.... Alleged Victim narrative
Sorry that's immoral. Two wrongs don't make a right.
it's immoral to break the object you paid for❓😑
@@mr.obsidian8009 wow you're sick. No respect for the dead. You should get your head checked. Apples and oranges sicko.
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No he wasn't right to smash the headstone of the toddler. Just because you feel angry about it still doesn't make it right. At least 2 of them guys can't control themselves. Sick of these overly emotional guys.
Yea, you're right. Let's ignore his trauma and depression. OvErLy eMotIOnAl GuYs.
@@TheBossCrissCross That is life. If you think smashing up a childs grave is justifiable then you have a problem. Being a man means you uphold your own principles. Do you want to be known publicly as the guy who smashed a childs grave?
It wasn’t the child’s fault
The problem is when people her about that story/video people think that he is taking it out on the kid by breaking the headstone. But he is the one that paid for it and his last name is on it. He is not taking it out on the child, he is removing what doesn't belong.
Now the child will have no gravestone and will be dishonored and probably forgotten-he’ll get some views and clicks to feed his ego.
It is tho and idc
Everyone is talking over each other.
It's distracting
No sorry don't disrespect the dead he's wrong
He may be very angry.
But is he angry at the KID?
He broke the law by smashing the headstone. He may have done that out of grief but a judge will need to decide what happens next.
Likely, he will have to pay for the headstone again.
It's not illegal to break a headstone that you paid for just so you know, the only thing a cop or judge could charge him with would be trespassing if they caretaker told him he needed to leave and he didn't. I would not attempt to rebuttal my statement either. No judge is going to sentence a man to pay for breaking a headstone that he himself bought. It's not desecrating a grave due to it being he that purchased the headstone
Could you site what law he broke?
Florida Statutes (most states have similar laws)
Title XLVICRIMES
Chapter 872OFFENSES CONCERNING DEAD BODIES AND GRAVESEntire Chapter
SECTION 02
Injuring or removing tomb or monument; disturbing contents of grave or tomb; penalties.
872.02 Injuring or removing tomb or monument; disturbing contents of grave or tomb; penalties.-
(1) A person who willfully and knowingly destroys, mutilates, defaces, injures, or removes any tomb, monument, gravestone, burial mound, earthen or shell monument containing human skeletal remains or associated burial artifacts, or other structure or thing placed or designed for a memorial of the dead, or any fence, railing, curb, or other thing intended for the protection or ornamentation of any tomb, monument, gravestone, burial mound, earthen or shell monument containing human skeletal remains or associated burial artifacts, or other structure before mentioned, or for any enclosure for the burial of the dead, or willfully destroys, mutilates, removes, cuts, breaks, or injures any tree, shrub, or plant placed or being within any such enclosure, commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
@@mr.obsidian8009 False. Tell us you know nothing about the law without saying it. There is ample precedent for this and judges have most commonly issued sentences.
Here is the Florida law, but most states have something very similar:
2011 Florida Statutes
Title XLVICRIMES
Chapter 872OFFENSES CONCERNING DEAD BODIES AND GRAVESEntire Chapter
SECTION 02
Injuring or removing tomb or monument; disturbing contents of grave or tomb; penalties.
872.02 Injuring or removing tomb or monument; disturbing contents of grave or tomb; penalties.-
(1) A person who willfully and knowingly destroys, mutilates, defaces, injures, or removes any tomb, monument, gravestone, burial mound, earthen or shell monument containing human skeletal remains or associated burial artifacts, or other structure or thing placed or designed for a memorial of the dead, or any fence, railing, curb, or other thing intended for the protection or ornamentation of any tomb, monument, gravestone, burial mound, earthen or shell monument containing human skeletal remains or associated burial artifacts, or other structure before mentioned, or for any enclosure for the burial of the dead, or willfully destroys, mutilates, removes, cuts, breaks, or injures any tree, shrub, or plant placed or being within any such enclosure, commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
If yall guys could stop talk over one another it would be much easier to listen to
I been in them shoes...I disagree with the men on your pod cast I think he's a week individual to do that ...that child didn't do anything the mom did ...
So are you saying he should have smashed the woman's property instead of the headstone that he purchased for the funeral of a child that wasn't his that instead of the child's mother grieving the loss of, the mother instead using the child as an argument piece, yet the man seems to be pointed out by people in the comments as in the wrong?
Yeah no, it's immoral and wrong to do that. A (strong) man is in control of his anger, and a (mature) man isn't reactionary. Meaning that when the calamity befalls you, you do not let your emotions guide your actions. That doesn't mean that you don't get to cry and grieve or feel wronged, but you have to act right. Return an evil with that which is better. Moral actions or judgements are not rooted in emotions, but rather, in intellectual analyses. I consider that a weak response by a weak man, as a weak man would have a weak moment like that, whereas a strong man would keep it together and remain upright. And you can play the emo card all you want, but destroying the child's headstone isn't something that you can justify, except by lingering on (said emotional) weakness. "Temporary insanity", yeah sure. There's no benefit in it and I think it's an insult to the dead child. For what crime is he punishing the child? Or does smashing the headstone reverse anything? In fact, doing that could be described as grave desecration, even if he bought the stone. You have to condemn a wrong when you see/hear it, and I think these dudes in the video lack the wisdom and insight to do that. But then again, we follow the Islamic code, and morality to us isn't based on gut feelings and whatever feels good. Perhaps the individual in question can still take some kind of legal steps against the woman, but his actions are wrong and I would certainly reject that as an acceptable response. The woman who did that to him is out of her mind, by the way.
It's immoral and wrong to smash the headstone that a man purchased himself for a child he thought was his that wasn't, that mother used as an argument piece instead of mourning her offspring?
I'll concur with you on the calamity bit. I will not get behind the men should suck it up and just deal with their emotions in silence. Calling a man weak for taking the frustration out on the headstone is lack luster here as it is far stronger for the man not to aim his anger at people rather than his property being the headstone that he was both morally and legally free to do with as he saw fit. Play the emo card all you want? What is that supposed to refer to?
emotions are valid and repressing them can lead to far more severe outbursts of anger and depression. Repressing emotions for prolonged periods has inveriably lead to murder and suicide.
Children that are 3 years old have little comprehension or interest in what a gravestone even is.
The headstone was purchased by the man who smashed it.
Pretty sure I just justified the smashing of the headstone without relying on the emotive component.
Smashing the headstone gave him closure that otherwise could have resulted in this situation escalating to the death of the mother and himself by suicide or worse. Cause damages in excess of $250 to real or personal property that is maintained as a place of interment of human remains. Except the property was HIS. He paid for it.🤷
Grace desecration refers to the property of others. If he hadn't paid for it himself it would be felony destruction of property/grave. I think you lack the wisdom or insight to properly express your emotions or you would not be so dead set on repressing them and calling people weak who simply haven't learned yet how to properly express anger. Who is we, because I don't remember agreeing to any Islamic code, I do agree on the last part, and that he could have made better choices but in the end the only one in the wrong is she who used her child as a pawn, and she who withheld the truth from a man in is possibly worst hours of sadness.
You are certainly welcome and entitled to your opinions as I am mine. Gravesite vandalism is a felony, however arresting someone for breaking their own objects or purchased property is a victimless incident and one could easily defend against it by questioning wether prosecution can prove intent, guilt, and that he did not himself purchase the gravestone.
I know a LOT of people are going to disagree with me on this.... but if he spent years buying his daughter gifts and was STILL ALIVE when the mother told him it wasn't his daughter..... would it then be right for him to go smash and destroy all the gifts he got her because of the anger he felt toward the mother?..... Don't take your Love back from someone who hasn't hurt you, and don't take your anger out on the innocent..... I fully understand the anger, but there should be lines anger shouldn't cross ... because you have to remember you DID care about them and they DID pass.... don't dishonor and disrespect someone's passing because your mad at someone else...let your Love be your Love no matter what 💞💋💞❤️💞🌹
Come on now. In any way is this equivalent.
@@joesephnicholls1363 I honestly don't think I expected it to be equivalent, because I also don't think that either... I was trying to reach a point where we're able to go hey, should I take back the Love that I gave to someone who's done nothing to me, just because another person made me angry.... because regardless of whether or not it's his daughter, ...that little girl is in the ground and frankly didn't deserve it... she deserved a better burial than that as a living PERSON... and it was taken away from her because the anger didn't go to the right place...❤️❤️
A child is a child no matter what, he should have just left it alone ,take the woman to court if he has to
I love your content Roma, but I disagree with you often. To smash a gravestone is fucked up.
Its not that she is sayin what he did was ok, she just is understandin that it was from pain an grief not vengeance
The man bought the gravestone he smashed to begin with, the dead have no use for a gravestone, 3 year olds mostly dont even know what a gravestone is the mother didnt care because as soon as an argument occured it was used against him. If anything is fucked up it's what that woman did to the man.
Dont care, he didnt have a right to destroy the gravestone. Get over it and move on, it was the gravestone to a 3 year old on top of that overall piece of shit move
That's gross, don't take your anger out on the poor baby.. if he is mad he should go after the mother not the baby, maybe take the headstone down or something but to destroy it is like a ultimate disrespect
sry but wrong idc hate the mom not the baby that he had loved regardless 🖕 the blood makes u family i feel for him for real but that baby had nothing to do with the mom being trash
You lost your child and now you lose her again. Your memories are wrong, she was never your child. Bullshit, of course, if you raise them then they are yours. This kind of thing is just so fucked up.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. He no longer Loves that child?!
Wow. Wow. Wow.
Not a man in my eyes.. no child ever deserves to be the recipient of any adult pain.
So he was totally justified for desecrating a grave of an innocent child but when a woman smashes her infidel husband’s car she’s abusive-according to you people.
Ehehehe strawman's much?
Nope-I’ve seen her say that exact same thing in response to women who do that