Canon R8 Review: Why It Falls Short Compared to the R6
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R8 sensor is not the same as the R6. its the same as the R6 Markii. big diffrent
Thanks for the comments!
All of the features that are deal breakers for you are things that don’t matter at all to me. This is a fantastic camera and doesn’t fall short whatsoever in my case.
That's great to hear!
Thanks for the comment.
Exactly this. I think way too many reviewers focus on luxury features that sound cool but that are never used by hobby photographers.
@@ThaGamingMisfit💯
This is why people get mad about small cameras. They forget that some of us bring cameras with us in case we want to shoot, not because we're going out on a shoot. The latter makes perfect sense to have the biggest most powerful piece of kit. The former only requires a small ergonomic snapper that does enough.
Im hoping the Canon M6II come to RF. That would be my perfect camera.
Thanks for the comment! A small point and shoot on the RF system would be nice!
Paired with the RF 28mm that recently came out. That would be a nice kit.
@@ThaGamingMisfitthat s what he already said
Mate you keep saying the R8 has the same sensor as the R6, but it's not true. It's the same sensor as in the R6II.
Thanks for noticing! You're 100 percent right. It's a lovely sensor by the way. Super clean images.
R8 sensor is not same sensor as in R6. Its the same as in R6 mk II. In your place I would rather try to actually test R8 and then compare it to R6 or r6 ii. However, i do agree that at the moment all reviews of r8 are marketing hype and would be better to wait.
Thanks for the comment.
I realized I miss spoke in the video. I believe my viewers were able to follow along.
I did hold and test the R8 at my local shop. A Canon Rep came to demo them.
What camera do you use?
Your title says youre comparing R8 to R6, yet at 3:26 you mention R6 is the supercharged version of the R8 and then proceed to mention that the R6 has the 24.6 or something sensor and then you add that it is the Mark II version that has it, however you make it seem to appear it is the R6 that has the 24.6 full sensor, when in fact the R6 only has the 20.something sensor. And yet you say the R6 is the supercharged version. I think you are being misleading in your comparison. Take the R6Markii completely out of the comparison since that is not what you are comparing against the R8. Or change the title of your vid to R6/R6Markii vs R8.
Thanks for the comment. I did notice I hopped back and forth.
I attribute this to a simple human mistake-a blunder.
I have addressed this in the comments below because others have also noticed.
I appreciate the criticism, but I will keep all things the same.
Also the R6 Mark ii is excat same internals as the R8, yes u dont have IBIS but its not needed when almost all canon lenses has OIS. I will deffently say, if u dont have budget for the R6 mark ii, take the R8 its a amazing camera, insane image quality. U can do alot of PRO work with an R8.
I love my R8. Thanks for the comment!
This BF weekend direct from canon web the r8 refurb $1000 with 10% loyalty program down to $899 or the r6mk1 for 1099.00 which is the better buy if I can only keep one this will be my first camera as a hobbyist I just want the best camera I can get for my money spent at this price range ?
@carlosr.2027 that's a crazy good deal for the R6 mark 1.
I would choose the R6 mark1. I still own the R6 and it's so good. And that BF price is tough to beat. It's a camera that you will grow into vs a camera that you will out grow.
The R8 would be good for you if you want to learn more about video and content creation because it doesn't have overheating and record limits. But if your doing strictly photo with some light video recording then I would pick the R6.
Let me know what you decide!
Facts
I couldn’t do the R8 just based on the fact that it’s not weather resistant
Hi I am new in this world of photography. I am about to buy CANNON R8 but still confused in between Sony brand and Cannon. Please advise
Both are really good systems.
Canon is a little more expensive and your limited on your 3rd party lenses. The Canon lenses are the best on the planet and they come at a premium.
Sony has great technology and has opened up their mount system to 3rd party lens makers. Making the lenses more affordable.
It's a tough choice regardless but you will not go wrong with either brand. They are both premium brands.
Let me know if you have any other questions. I own all Canon cameras. Including the R8.
You mentioned that you wouldn’t buy the kit lens that comes with the R8… but would you buy the R6 kit lens 24-105mm?
If it's the L option. Then yes.
The R6 and R5 both came with an option for the 24 to 105 f4 L. That lens is a beast. But if I'm not mistaken they also had an option for both cameras for the non L version.
Good question. 👍
Great video, if I didn't already have an R as a back-up to my R6 and R6II I would really consider the R8, but the battery is the only negative for me. I don't mind not having IBIS because I use a gimble when I'm shooting wedding videos. For now I am done with camera bodies, this year my focus is lenses.
Thanks for the comment!
Your camera body collection is impressive. I personally own the R5, R6, and an M50.
What lenses do you have your eye on? My next lens purchase will be the 50 1.2. But still undecided. I need to save up some coins for that purchase. A few more jobs will get me there.
@@TMVVisualMedia been thinking about the 28-70 like I mentioned to you on IG but the 50 1.2 is closer because of how much I can get it used.
Awesome! Thanks for checking out this video. It's the first time I used the R5 to record a UA-cam video. I have to say it was not a good experience. The R6 work flow is so much better.
Biggest con of the R8 is that one will probably have to wait many months to actually get one. It will be a fantastic camera to travel with and shoot on the street with the electronic shutter.
Thanks for the comment!
I totally agree. While doing some research for this video I came across some videos about the shortages coming to Canon. I ran into a similar problem when I was in the market for the 28-70 f2. I called every camera shop in my area and had them promise me they would call me as soon as one came in and I had to convince them I had cash in hand.
Its going to be an awesome camera though. Are you thinking about getting it?
@@TMVVisualMedia Eventually yes. But I almost never buy anything new.
Maybe if I see a cheap enough RP with some extra batteries and a grip I will have some accessories to stack up for free for the R8 when the opportunity arises ;)
For the 28-70/2, I got it with an EOS R barely used for 3000$ Re-sold the R for 1200$, so it only cost me 1800$ in total.
Then I also got an almost new R6 for 1300$, the 800/11 for 600$ and the R7 for 1100$, all three camera bodies with less than 10k shutter actuations.
Thats pretty impressive.
Where does the R8 fit in your collection. I think I would only be interested in setting it up at my command station and leave it static forever.
@@TMVVisualMedia As I said, it can actually serve many different purposes, I can count three different uses already:
a) I have amassed a nice collection of Canon LTM rangefinder lenses still sitting in my cupboard (sadly), a few of which are really tiny and there is actually a rather notable weight difference between an RP and an R6 when I walk with just a camera in my hand. It would be perfect for that, since the RP can't shoot silently, while the R8 will do it very well.
b) I have re-bought an 800/11 to shoot some birds or the moon, maybe planes, etc. and I also see a few deals on the 600/11 that would help me decide which one is more useful (or both.) One limitation with these f/11 lenses is that he focusing area is quite crammed in the center.
Not anymore! The AF system in the newest cameras like the R3, R6 Mark II and now the R8 have a notably increased focusing area.
And again, the usable electronic shutter is very useful to eliminate shutter shake at these long focal lengths and it does not have the jello of the R7 which I might just flip for now.
c) Canon's IBIS is known to have wobble with wide-angle lenses. Having an R8 to use with just lens stabilisation solves it. So, needless to say, I am hoping to pick up a good deal on the 14-35/4 or a 15-35/2.8 as well.
d) I am just adding it because of what you wrote, also perfect for shooting videos or timelapses on a tripod :)
In the distant future I might see myself with just two bodies: an R8 and either an R5II or an R3 - knowing myself I probably go for a used R3 first, as I can't use the same batteries anyway :)
Awesome!
Let me know if you ever pick it up. Where can I find your work?
Thanks a lot for your kind words n experience sharing. I already have 3 bodies- 5D Mark 2, 6D and Mark 4, now I need a mirrorless camera specially for making different genre of videos. I was bit confused, thanks for your words.
Thanks for the support!
The ibis in cannon causes the image shake during video in a wide angle lens
OP you say? usually I refer to that as over powered but in this case Optically pleasing.
Lol very good.
I had the RP and traded it in for the R6 Mark II and don’t regret it for a second. I am not a professional but an enthusiast and I love the features and build of the R6. This camera takes beautiful pictures. Now if I could just get an affordable long range Lens it would be nice.
That's a massive upgrade! Congrats.
I have to the 24-105 variable aperture lens and the 100-400 variable zoom. Both are affordable in my opinion. But I outgrew the lenses rather quickly. Mostly because of the variable zoom and they were not very sharp once they zoomed into the longest focal length.
Those are the limitations. I traded in my 100-400 for a 70-200. I had to add my kidney in the trade though, haha. Jk. It was expensive though. But I don't regret the purchase. Once you have an L series lens on your R6 you will know what I mean.
Camera gear is very expensive.
Thanks for your comment!
The headline is a bit misleading unfortunately. I would like to add something. I think no professional photographer would even consider R8 as an A camera. The R5 or R3 are the ones. My experience is that I bought the M50 mark II and spent a little more money on lenses with stabilisation (70-200mm f2.8 ii for example). It’s just a matter of training to get your hands still while taking pictures. I see people dropping their jaws after I show them what I can produce with a camera for only $600. When I say camera I see taking pictures rather than pretending to be Tiktok or whatever influencer. Yes videographers will be struggling but so what. There are another options. Battery has a lower capacity… no problem, I will buy extra ones and never run out. It takes few seconds to change and you are good to go. Classic m50 situation. It never bothered me. I can still do 1000 pictures and I am halfway through the battery. The R8 looks great. I watched almost every video available about the R8 and most people mention the lack of IBIS. Some even say it’s and advantage. My conclusion is that if you are an occasional photographer who wants to shoot some memories and post them online the R8 is fantastic. With a budget of $4-5k, let’s say, you get telephoto and wide angle L lenses from Canon and that is all you need.
Thanks for your input!
which is best for wedding and low light photography pls suggest r6mark 2 / r8 which is best
Thanks for the comment.
The R6 mk2 is the better camera.
for a wedding videographer what would you suggest. did you check the battery time in video recording mode.
For any sort of paid work, I would recommend the R7. The R7 has more pro level features that are needed for paid work. Dual card slots, ibis and a few other key elements.
As for the battery life, the R8 had very small batteries and of youre recording in 4k It would last roughly an hour to two hours of continuous recording. I own another camera that uses the same batteries and they do not last very long. I can't several spares.
The R7 has the larger batteries that last mush longer. Battery life is tricky because it's all depending on peoples shooting styles and mode preferences.
I would not recommend the R8 for paid gigs.
Let me know if you have any other questions. Happy to help.
@@TMVVisualMedia thanks but sorry to say the R7 is apsc crop sensor body so how you defend a crop body over a full frame
In one word for model potrait and insta videos of minute which is gud
You mentioned a couple times the low light strengths of the R6/ii. Is the R8 low light ability equal as far as the sensor?
Does the R8 have any disadvantages to the R6/ii for star photography?
Thanks
Thanks so much for the question!
As far as the sensor goes it is exactly the same as the one in the R6 mark II. That fact is very important and impressive.
In terms of Astro photography I think the R8 would be plenty capable. Its going to be a beast of a little camera.
My biggest concern would be the battery life. Its my understanding that in Astro photography you can spend all night outside waiting for the perfect conditions. But a few extra batteries should solve that. I have another camera that use the same batteries as the R8 and anytime I use that system I pack 3 extra batteries and that only gets me through half the day.
Let me know if you have any other questions. Happy to help!
@@TMVVisualMedia are there any conditions in which a lack of a true mechanical shutter would affect image quality?
Thanks 🙏
The only problem that I am aware of is when youre trying to use an on camera flash. I'm certain it's still possible to use a flash but you may see a lot of bending if you don't have youre setting correct.
Thats a good question. I think for the average user or hobbies it may not be very impactful.
Hey, thanks for the video
Is it still worth buying the R6 MK1 in 2024? I'm fond of the R6 based on the reviews, but it's quite old. The R6 MK2 is beyond my budget, and I'm considering options in the same price range as the R6 MK1.
Do you see any viable alternatives at the moment, or does the R6 MK1 still offer good value for its price and features?
The R6 mk1 is still fantastic!
Have you considered a used mk2? It may be closer to your budget.
Regardless the mk1 is excellent still. I love my version all the time.
@@TMVVisualMedia thanks for the reply.
I haven't checked the prices for used MK2s in my area, but I will =). I just don't have enough experience in buying used cameras.
@vitaliz3646 let me know if you have any other questions. Happy to help. It's a lot of money and it's a very costly decision if you choose incorrectly.
How about the RF 85mm 2.0 IS STM. Considering buying the R8 with that for a start...
The RF 85mm f2 is a fantastic lens.
Its a rather tight focal length if you are just getting started. What are you photographing?
Hi... I am Canon RP shooter. Is it worth upgrading to R8 or go straight to R6? R6 ii is way above my budget.
I shoot mainly portrait, macro and street, and wanna up my level to shoot sports and videography. Pls advice.
Great question!
I would consider checking out the used market for the R6. It's a premium experience. The camera renders images so well and is a massive upgrade from the RP.
Another option would be to spend some money on an L series lens. I have often found that when I'm not satisfied with my own work, I take a look at my lenses.
What lenses do you use currently?
@@TMVVisualMedia
Thanks. I will consider a used R6 with good condition for RP replacement.
I pair my RP with these lenses:
- RF 50mm F/1.8
- EF 17-40mm F/4 L
- EF 24-70mm F/4 L
- Tamron SP 70-300 F/4-5.6 VC USD
The RF lenses L series is sooo expensive here in Jakarta, haha...
What's your suggestions on my lens collection?
They are great.
One of my favorite portrait lenses is the RF 85 f2. That lens is very good for portrait.
I made a video talking about it.
Let me know when you get your new camera. Where can I find your work?
I use camera on tripod in a studio for recording videos. If R8 sensor is the same as R6 M2 I should be happy for less money 💰. By the way, I couldn't not bare the background music, sorry. Maybe a tad quieter next time...
Thanks for the feedback!
All constructive criticism is appreciated. 👍
finally… a real talkreview
Thanks for the comment!
Hi how many photos can be taken with that battery for R8?
I'm not sure actually. If youre just doing photos it can easily last several hours. But im uncertain about the photo count per battery.
Let me know if you find out!
Should i buy r8 for wedding and professional work like candid n cinematography?? Need a suggestion if not a r8 so which should i buy or just I should buy a r8 i am really confused coz it my 1st camera
The R8 is a great beginner camera. It will work well in a lot of different situations.
@@TMVVisualMedia soo which camera will u recommend me for professional work like candids and cinematography plz it’s important for me
Photography and cinematography is very difficult. It takes a lot of time and skill. A professional can make a cell phone look cinematic.
The R8 will be great. But I recommend you work on developing your skills with any camera you currently have.
Hello, I would like to ask if the canon eos r8 works well with the sigma 150-600mm adapter? is the af fast on it too?
Thanks for the question!
It's been my experience that non-RF glass is not as quick as native RF. But depending on what you need it may not be noticeable.
Using an adapter usually comes with some communication issues. Nothing that you couldn't overcome but there is a side-by-side difference.
@@TMVVisualMedia so you don't think it will be a problem? or there will be only a minimal difference.
Unless you have the two lenses side by side; sigma 150-600 and the RF comparable one, it will be difficult to tell the difference.
That's just my opinion though. It's difficult to say conclusively. But there will be a difference. The more important question is if you as the user and photographer will notice or even care if there is a difference.
I only by native mount glass because there are advantages that I have noticed and it's worth it to me personally.
@@TMVVisualMedia Thank you very much for your reply and have a nice day!
i am currently using 6D, but looking to switch to R6 mk ii or R8. Mainly shooting long exposure and landscape, what would you recommend?
There is no contest between the R6 mark ii and the R8.
If your budget permits, the R6 is the way to go. Let me know if you have any questions about lenses. You will be able to use your EF glass with an adaptor.
Thanks for the comment and question!
@@TMVVisualMedia But will landscape/long exposure require the extra features in R6 mk ii? electronic shutter is good for this genre of photography? will be getting the RF 15-35mm lens to pair with either of the bodies but not sure if it will be imbalance if paired on the R8 given the weight of that lens.
It sounds like you have a good amount of experience. You will be able to make any camera work well.
But if youre asking me to choose between those two cameras I will choose the R6. It's a far superior camera. R8 is for newbies and as a C cam for pros.
As far as the the weight of the 15-35. It's nothing crazy. I own that lens as well. The lens doesn't come with a tripod mount like the longer lenses. That would be something to look at because I wouldn't want to add that much stress to the mount. I have heard a few horror stories of lenses and cameras breaking because they were left on tripods too long.
@@TMVVisualMedia alright, thank you for your advice and for the great video~
Thanks for the support. Keep me posted on your decision!
I'm coming from mostly DSLRs. I've never needed IBIS, my lenses have it for when I need it which is rare now that I mostly shoot sports and wildlife. I also have an M50 and enjoy the small size, especially when compared to my 1dxm2. You said there is no mechanical shutter? It's advertised as having the ability to shoot at 15 frames a second with mechanical shutter and 40 frames a second with electronic shutter. All the things you said are a deal braker for you are no loss to me. I think I would prefer to save the $1k and get me another lens with the extra money. Sensor and auto focus features are the same as the R6 and to me that's what I'm mostly interested in. Thanks for taking the time to make this review. You should show some sample images.
Thanks for the feedback!
My info came from the Canon USA website. I may have overlooked the mechanical shutter. I believe I saw it only had electronic and first curtain electronic.
The R6 is a wonderful machine. Let me know when you get the R8 I would love to get your opinion.
Thanks for the comment!
@@TMVVisualMedia My bad, I confused it with the R7 specs.
you keep saying its the same saensor as the R6 - its not - its the same sensor as the R6MK2 - big diff.
in short. The R8 and R6MK2 share most of the same specs (kind of) The R6 is outdated compared
However if you stram with the R8 HDMI out then the camera shuts dawn and overheats constantly - Not a single review mentions this. So that would be a more interesting video
Thanks for noticing. And I appreciate the comment.
Do you own either camera?
@@TMVVisualMedia yes. We now have R5, R6MK2, R8 and a couple of C-70 - Have 2 R8 on trial for streaming purposes - but let me tell you -- they overheat and loose the HDMI signal - I am shocked the out of +3000 R8 videos no one noticed this? - People are so biased and just talking to much
@user-wz8gm9hw1b very cool. I haven't had any overhearing issues with my R8. But I also don't go for more than an hour.
I stopped using all of my Canon cameras for streaming though. Deciding to go with insta Webcam with gimbals. Still working out the work flow.
Thanks again for the comment. When I made the video I misspoke. So anytime I said r6 I meant to say r6 mk2.
I addressed this in a pinned comment months ago when the video was published.
ironic that Canon advertised the R8 as a streaming cam - :) cheers´@@TMVVisualMedia
Imagine a lightweight FF camera you can take everywhere without looking like a rich tourist with a bazooka. Yeah that's the R8. With the 50mm prime on it the whole setup weighs 620 grams. That is incredible and I think reviewers don't mention this enough in comparison videos. IBIS is overrated in my opinion, I'm pretty sure many hobby photographers won't be able to tell if the camera they are holding has it or not while shooting stills. I think they did an amazing job with the R8 scrapping all the luxury features that only professionals and youtubers use. The R8 isn't for professionals, it fills the gap many of us hobbyists waited years for. If you're not planning on doing heavy video work, the R8 is for you.
I like all your comments! You should make a hands-on review of your experience with the camera. Fantastic. Thanks for the views and the engagement.
Bro good job on the vibes, definetly support
Thanks! I appreciate the comment and the support. 💪
What a great review, you were born to do this.
I am point and shot guy using Sony RX100 v for the last few years, but low light performance is not that good. I want compact set up with small camera and lens. I was thinking about Canon R8 with 24mm f1.8 RF lens with IS. I do 50/50 stills and videos of family events for fun, and I am not sure about focus speed of that lens during making videos. Don't want to spend over 2K and end up with unhappy system, and will not purchase one kilo lens.
Another option for me would be rumored Sony A7c ii, but I am not to crazy about Sony colors which improved lately from what I hear. I do videos with ninja walking without gimbal. I don't have a problem purchasing gimbal in the future for some main events, but not interested to carry it everywhere.
If you could comment with some advise I would appreciate it.
Happy to help!
The 24mm is the one stm lens that I don't own. I do however own all the rest budget friendly primes.
I have also used them for both video and stills. I believe them to be excellent for everything for the price. My favorite is the 35mm budget prime. It's on my camera the most for everyday day carry kit.
FYI the 35mm and the 24mm have the same body. The only reason I haven't bought the 24mm is because I have that focal length covered with several of my L series lens.
I have to say respectfully that unless you are a high level pro its very unlikely that you will notice auti focus problems on any camera system above 1000 dollars across any brand, particularly Canon. They are leagues ahead of the competitor. They are also very expensive.
If you still have doubts about the lens I would recommend renting it from a local shop. But I absolutely love all my prime STM lenses.
Consider looking through my social media. I add images and video daily. I also add the lens and camera body I'm using for every image in the description.
Let me know if you have any other specific questions.
I doo only photography, so is it worth to buy R8 by selling my sony a7iii because I personally don’t like sony skin tones
I think if youre familiar with the Sony a7iii you may miss some of the pro features.
The R8 I only recommend to very new photographers.
Questions!! Truly how necessary is IBIS for recording video if I purchase a gimbal? Also, do you have a gimbal recommendation?
And lastly, how much of an ACTUAL impact do you see on a photo that has mechanical shutter to open/close vs the Electric open then mechanical close that the R8/R10 have.
For professional video recording you will need steady footage. Even pros that have ibis and have a gimbal plus a stabilized lens use professional editing software to create steady footage.
So to answer the ibis question in regards to video. The answer is: critically important
A way to mitigate the lack of IBIS is to use a lens that has stabilization. There are plenty of affordable lenses that have this feature.
If you use a gimbal you will be able to produce some great looking video but a gimbal isn't an end all be all. There is still some great skill required to use a gimbal and use it correctly. It can be a hassle to use a gimbal if you don't know how to use it.
I own two gimbal's and the brand I like is called DJI. I have a cheaper one for light weight rig and a more expensive one for a heavier set up. Actually I have a third one but it's for cell phones.
For your last question, I believe that only pro level photographer will notice the difference between a mechanical shutter and an electronic one. I did notice once when I was using an on body flash that there was bending in my image. I believe it was caused by my shutter speed not fast enough or slow enough. It was a combo of problems. Bit I resolved it by tweaking my setting. Its important to test your gear before going to a paid gig. Lesson learned for me.
Let me know of you have any other questions. Feel free to check out some of my socials. I have some videos and some photos that I add what lens and what camera was used on each photo.
Very helpful video. Thank you!!!
Youre very welcome!
Thanks for the cool video. I am doubting enormously. I started as a photographer two years ago. I now have my own photo studio. I mostly shoot portraits and fine art. I also occasionally shoot videos for companies. I have been using an a7ii on loan for the past few years. Now I want to buy my camera myself. I have a huge doubt between the R8 or R6 and can't make a choice after all those videos on UA-cam.
Thanks for the question.
In your case I would select the R6. No question.
Let me know if you have any other questions. Happy to help.
Ibis is important since my 70-200mm doesn’t have it .
Thanks for the comment!
I would agree with you. It is important.
Bro. Can we crop in the image better in R6 or R8?
Thanks for the question!
I'm not sure what you're asking me though.
Can you elaborate?
@@TMVVisualMedia
The R6 has 20MP sensor and R8 has 24MP sensor. So theoretically we can crop the image better that was taken using R8. I was asking practically is it same or different.
Hope my query is clear now.
Yes much clearer now. Thanks!
The difference between 20.1 and 24.1 is negligible in my opinion. Especially when it comes to cropping. The naked eye wouldn't be able to tell the difference unless you are cropping heavy. Like 400 percent.
A much noticeable difference would be between the R5 with 45mp vs 20.1 or the 24.1.
I own both the R5 and the R6 and I prefer to use the R5 for still because I can crop just a little bit more.
It's always best to get the shot right in camera of course but the R5 provides me a lot more flexibility.
But I digress, the difference between the r6 mark 2 and mark 1 in terms of cropping ability is minuscule. That's actually one of the reasons I didn't upgrade my r6 to the mark 2
Thanks for the questions!
Let me know if you have any other questions.
@@TMVVisualMedia thank you so much for your reply.
Recently I found a passion for bird photography and also interest in ASTRO photography. Occasionally some portrait photography
Which Canon camera and lenses would you recommend?
I think the R7 is a better option for what you mentioned above and then I would get a fast lens like an F2.8 lens. Nonvariable aperture.
Something like the 70-200 f2.8 for wildlife and for astro photos something like the 24-70 f2.8
Short and sweet! Keep the content coming!
Wow! Thanks for the encouragement.
I certainly will!
Good review but I truly believe that you missed the point about who this camera is for, let’s face it, content creators are hardly going to go for a camera at that price point when they can achieve what they want with an iPhone Pro or Pro Max. Maybe some UA-camrs who are serious about their craft but this camera is more for the aspiring pro photographer on a budget who rather put the bulk of their money on good glass and get a more than capable body (the R8) until they can upgrade to a higher tier body. Just my opinion.
Thanks for your opinion!
I would respectfully disagree, I believe that very soon content on short-form platforms will need to be made on higher-quality cameras (R8 or ZV-E1).
Back in 2006 when UA-cam was getting started the barrier to entry was very low and anyone with a camcorder could get some traction. I see the sudden surge of short-form creators who will need to find a way to differentiate themselves with higher-quality video.
Of course, there will always be room for the cell phone creator. But in time people eventually realize the limitation of the smaller sensor size.
What camera do you use by the way?
Thanks for the comment!
I agree don’t fall for the trap of UA-cam and Canon. Pentax KF and 4K Timelapse with voice over. 😊
Thanks for the comment!
Small, light body & battery = great for travel photography
That is certainly a benefit. Thanks for the comment!
EOS R8 if Im not mistaken is also dust and water resistant.
I thought so to! I was all over the Canon USA site and I could not find anything that stated that the R8 was water and dust proof. I then noticed that the R6 and the R5 specifically have the text in nice big bold headers making the water and dust proof claim.
After seeing that I went to a few of my favorite camera review channels and noticed that they didnt make the direct claim either.
Anyways, I hope it is weather and dust proof. I hate when companies cheap out on critically important stuff like that.
Thanks for the comment BTW. Are you the market for the R8?
@@TMVVisualMedia yes. I'm actually planning to get a R7 from my 77d but since R7 and R8 are same price, I decided to go to a full frame one. R6 for me is too much for a hobbyist like me.
I think you will really like the R system. Especially the full-frame bodies.
I'm not entirely sure why anyone would pay the same price for an APSC as a full-frame body. Perhaps the R7 has a few other important features.
I hope you enjoy your new camera! I also hope it doesn't take long for you to receive it of you preorder it.
R8 have r6 mark II sensor not R6 mark I sensor :) just to correct you on 2:15
Thats correct. I realized I flip-flopped a bit in the edit after the fact. Thanks for catching that. I think I got my message across, however.
Thanks for the comment!
@@TMVVisualMedia no worries and there are more moments when you say it’s same r6 mark I so I though I will let you know cuz it’s a bit confusing :)
Which camera body do you own? Or what camera are you in the market for?
@@TMVVisualMedia I have r6 mark II and I have just sold r6 mark I and thinking about getting r8 or r7 as a bcam leaning more towards r7 :)
Thats a tough choice. Im not sure of I will ever buy another crop sensor camera.
Given the choice of those two cameras, I think I would go for the R8. But I saw that it may take a while to get the R8. The R7 and R8 are similarly priced?
do you clarify between the r6 and r62?
Thanks for the comment.
I realized in the edit that I was interchanging between the R6 and R62 a few times.
Regardless of the mix up the R6 and the R62 are both superior to the R8. Although, the R8 is going to be a little champion for year's to come.
Are you in the market for the R8?
@@TMVVisualMedia I have an r6 and dont like the video jello and its hard to engage MF (with the no switch kit lens) with or HFR also the lack of vid/phot annoys me. I dont think im that bothered about stability and use dummy batteries and I like small and light. So those thing could make the r8 appeal as a no cost trade over, but Im thinking I should probably pay up to the r6ii or just be happy with the r6 which is OK. Im looking for in the hand experience of the R8.. like does the mic jack mess with the flippy screen ... simple thing like that that no youtuber ever notices!
im not sure If I could tolerate a camera with no joystick.. how you supposed to change focus area with your eye in the finder. I like me eye in the finder - its stable and I can see in the sun.
my other worry is if there is hurry.. get shot of the r6 now? or wait till cheap used r6ii are in the house.
My local camera shop demos these cameras before the release. And when they release.
When I held the R8, R7 and R10 I felt that it was much to small for me to consider the camera. Perhaps thats just the perception. And about the headphone jack. Yes. It will be in the way.
Where can I find your work by the way?
Awesome vid bro.. good job..
Thanks for the comment!
I think the title is kinda flawed. Why would a reasonable person think that the R8 is on the same level of the R6 in the first place? It's completely geared towards two different segments...and you know Canon definitely isn't giving you more camera for $1000 less.
Thanks for the comment!
An experienced photographer would know the difference. My video and title are a response to an observation I made when being asked about the comparisons between the two cameras.
I believe the confusion may come in when the reviews use the verbiage "same sensor as the R6 mark 2" or "the same technology as the R6 mark 2"
This misconception is what I have personally observed and have been asked firsthand.
Thanks for the comment once again. The R6 is the better camera. Probably the best camera Canon sells actually. That's my opinion.
@@TMVVisualMedia that’s fair. Makes sense.
hi , thanks for info , with i go r6 or r8?
I've always loved the RP. So I see this R8 as a RP Mark II. Given that it has the brains of the R6 II, that's a fantastic deal! I took advantage of the X100v hype and sold mine for a massive profit. So for that same money, I'mma pick up the R8 (and pair it with a 50mm). I think it would be an insanely sweet street shooter!!! (and this is coming from someone with Sony as the main).
I think youre going to love the R8. It's a killer deal indeed.
If the RP is mark I then this R8 is more like a mark V. Its leagues ahead indeed.
Where can we find your work? Consider sharing your social so we can tag along.
Awesome. Thanks for sharing!
Great move. I had an RP and was using it as my street shooter and b cam to my R6. now I have the r8 which, like you said, has the internals of the R6M2 but the small form factor of the RP. So it’s a better street and b cam!
Excellent choice!
Sorry I disagree
6/23 buy a used R6 or new R8?
I would go for the R6 for sure.
That's me though. The R8 is superb but it doesn't hold a candle to the either R6 models.
And a new R6 has been marked down a little bit as well.
@@TMVVisualMedia it's now $1599 new online
Whats better for video? R7 or R8
Thanks for the question!
I would put my money on the full-frame sensor for video.
The downside of the R8 is going to be it's battery life and that can be solved with getting extra batteries. I believe they had to handicap this camera some way and they chose to do it with the battery life.
What are you going to be filming?
@@TMVVisualMedia thanks for the reply. I want to be very all round with filming but also be able to take some photos. I shoot with a canon 80D right now but wanted to be able to film more slowmotion and 4k. But i also often do make photos eventho its not my main focus. I film a lot of animals and wildlife as a hobby but also content for small buisnesses. So i have been having trouble choosing between the 2.
Have you had an opportunity to hold the R7?
If you can I really recommend visiting your local camera shop and holding the R7 and the RP in your own hands (since the R8 isn't out yet and is also having logistical problems it may be a while till we see them in the stores.)
It makes a world of difference to actually play and hold these expensive pieces of gear and talk to a reputable salesperson.
I know I'm repeating myself now but full frame will always be number one in my book.
Please don't hesitate to reach out if you have any more questions. Also my social media pages is covered with photo examples and photo tips that you may find helpful. Its also easier to respond through those messengers.
Let me know what you decide!
As someone who owns a 77d i will not complain if i get an r8
The R8 is going to be a great piece of equipment.
Panasonic S5 I is in same price range as R8 and has way more professional features
That's great. Thanks for the information and the comment!
Except it has poor AF
Canon has the best AF in the business and without AF, a camera is nothing.
The S5 is a good video camera and that's about it
Interesting. I thought Panasonic was an ok system. I've never used one though.
I only have used canon and Sony.
@Take My Victure their AF is poor. Maybe a bit better in their full frame range but not in their M43 range.
Canon AF is miles ahead. If you're a video guy then Pana might make sense but I'm a stills guy firstly and for video the R8 is plenty good anyway.
I mean, my M50 takes excellent videos so I don't see why the R8 wouldn't
I'm Canon all the way. I have always been happy with their stuff.
Don't tell that to a Sony guy. Lol.
Why everybody talks about battery? BUY a third party cheap battery grip for RP (it's the same for R8) and BOOM! U're done! Or just buy a small power bank! Same. Hours of shooting! What the problem? I just don't get it)
That's a great point!
The battery does die very quickly though. I wouldn't recommend buying third-party batteries though.
@@TMVVisualMedia Theres nothing to fear) There is video on youtube how to do that and all is great! Working fine how its just must do) U've get a greater battery life and a greater grip for your hand. Much better for bigger hands!)
@@serglesnikov Hey man, what is the name of the video??
@@carlmurungi27 which video?
Bro which one is good R7-R8 ?
That's a tough question. What are you trying to use it for?
For what I would use it for I would need the R8.
@@TMVVisualMedia for hybrid use
Consider the R8 and buy a few extra batteries and a large Sd card.
I personally can't see myself using a crop sensor camera like the R7 for any kind of video work.
I hope that helps. Let me know if you have any more questions.
@@TMVVisualMedia even I'm also thinking same that we can solve some issues by purchasing some accessories thanks a lot for helping to to choose a best cam .... And one And last doubt which is good in potrait
No problem!
Don't get me wrong the R7 is a great little camera. As I mentioned in the video the R8 has it's own flaws that will keep me from buying it. The features I want are in the R7 but the R7 has a crop sensor.
You actually just have me an idea for this weeks video. "Before you buy the R7 or the R8 | Which is better?"
As for the portrait question. That would really come down to the lens and not the camera. I use my R5 for portrait work and my R6 for video work. Both of them full frame and both take awesome stills. But I use my portrait lens on both cameras and the images come out amazing.
Thanks for the questions and a video idea. Feel free to reach out through here or through Instagram. Let me know what you decide to buy. It's a big decision and it's a lot of money.
Have a R6 picking up another body tomorrow and it will be ?? R6 again...
The original or the Mark II?
@@TMVVisualMedia Original, I do not need the MKII, Plus the local shop has a few left 1908$ with tax out the door for R6 body only..
That's a great deal! Awesome choice.
R8 is great for the price, else R6 would be first choice for many of us.
I'm with you. If people can afford the R6, it's the best choice. R6 is superior.
@@TMVVisualMedia True bro! I thought I'd go with the R8 and buy a gimbal and some cheap-ish lens
@@atachiuchiha9952 , thats a great option. Let me know if you need help picking a lens. I have several of them.
@@TMVVisualMedia I may Ping you when I get my camera, thanks bro!
Heck yeah man! Consider checking out my Instagram. The messaging system over there is a lot easier than the comments in UA-cam app. Keep me posted!
Its short battery life is like a rain on its own parade.
Very true.
I have a Canon M50 and I had to get 3 extra batteries for a day of shooting. It's definitely limiting the camera. I doubt they would have a battery grip for it.
I mentioned I would consider it as a workstation camera that lives on my desk for streaming. And I would get a dummy battery. What camera do you use currently?
@@TMVVisualMedia I used to shoot with Pentax K50 but sold it some years back. Contemplating Nikon Z50, Sony A7C or Canon R8 as my next purchase. Prefer small & light cameras but may just have to live with whatever drawbacks each may have.
Those are all great choices!
I love photography. I hope you enjoy the new camera. Let me know of you need anymore help with any camera choice or of you want to talk about the best lens to start with.
Happy to help. Thanks for the comment btw.
How can you review a camera you have never used or even touched, much less never shot with? Also the R8 Does have IBIS, but just for video, not stills.. please correct your info or wait to actually use a camera before you make reviews..
Thanks for your comment.
The R8 does not have IBIS. What it has is Digital Image Stabilization. That is not IBIS.
I have held the camera. It was demoed at my local camera shop. I had an opportunity to hold it along with everyone else in the demo. The camera felt small in the hand and a little bit like a toy. Compared to my R6 and my R5.
There is no correction needed. Thanks for the feedback!
@@TMVVisualMedia the video Digital Image Stabilization looks really good in other video tests posted of people who actually shot the camera and tested out the Shot Stabilization
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That's because it is very good.
Thanks for the comment!
Short answer to the title: cause it’s $1000 cheaper
Thanks for the comment! Absolutely right. I still think that the R8 will be a powerful machine.
OVERPOWERED
Btw OP means over priced. 💀
Lol! That was great.
Camera gear can for sure be exoensive.
Thanks for the comment!
It might mean over priced, but usually op stands for over powered
Yes sir! Over Powered indeed.
Yea you dead right I just got the R8 and I’m disappointed
Really? How come?
@@TMVVisualMedia battery life is hopeless I got 20 mins recording 4K that’s it. Also got 2 bars of heat over that time. I was also playing with settings and got a bar of heat, I’m quitting it for the R6m2 I should have got that to start with but R8 looked promising.
Before you do that though, you must consider what you're asking the camera to do. 20 mins of continuous recording is a lot of processing for a long period.
You may be disappointed to find out that the R6 or any camera that doesn't have a dedicated internal fan will have similar issues.
What sort of content are you creating that requires long periods of recording like that?
I have had my cameras for multiple year's and I have only had heat warnings once on a hot day outside. I was shooting 4k 24fps. These cameras are not cinema cameras.
@@TMVVisualMedia ok I get it so I’m in a band and would like to record at least clips 30 mins or 50 mins long. I don’t need high res movie but I do need good sound so was going to hook up a zoom n1h or something like that to it. Should I just set to FHD res. Still gonna needs better battery life though…would I still be better off with the R6m2.
@@TMVVisualMedia also I have seen reviews and the the R6m2 does not overheat, is that not correct.