Send this footage immediately to your local Police force using the “report it online” portal. All submitted footage will be looked into and the appropriate action taken.
At my one and only driver awareness course, the lady very eloquently put it like this. "Leave a 4 second gap and you can only lose 4 seconds at a time." It's not hard. Sadly a lot people drive reactively and no proactively.
I'm sick of being intimidated by tailgating. I've only been driving for 3 months and it happens every day. I will absolutely not break the speed limit but drivers behind bully me by tailgating. If I don't speed up, they will overtake me in a dangerous area, like at a junction or roundabout. Terrifying. One reason I took my P plates off is this intimidation. It still happens so all I can do is stick to driving safely and hope nothing runs out/pulls out in front of me and I have to slam my brakes on. At night I'm pretty much blinded by their headlights in the rear view mirror and side mirrors when they're right up my behind too. I'm so sick of it.
Hi D I UK, much of what you say to us resonates well for me, this time the attitude thing is definitely one that I understand, when I started riding motor bikes I was terrified of the other traffic! while sensible observation of the road and its surface allowed some margin of safety some other drivers were far too unpredictable!. as my skills and confidence increased so did my speeds as I got more powerful machines, at the same time I became much more assertive treating all other road users with what amounts to contempt, especially for those who clearly lacked confidence and did not appear to like driving. Looking back I do not exactly feel ashamed of how I behaved I never actually harmed anyone else, certainly upset quite a few in passing. It took several decades for me to calm down a bit, even now I do get the odd flash of frustration, it is always far too easy to find fault in others. My main preoccupation now is getting to where I want be with the absolute minimum of stress and tension and find a safe clear pocket in the traffic, I now find that I can predict what other drivers are going to do next, there is something about the way people drive that indicates their attitude and temperament and react accordingly. I know that other drivers are woefully unready to move when traffic lights change, I thought it was good idea to be in first gear with the clutch at the start of its bite as soon as the light turn to orange and start to move on the green, now I understand that this is far too soon for some drivers, they need to wait until the green shows to release the handbrake, then get in gear then start to move, that is what the are like and no amount of hassle from me will make a difference so I stay a bit further back so that I can start to move when it suits me but only move very slowly, this allows the one behind me to get going a bit sooner and so on, we all have to wait for the dozy twat at the front but no harm is done!. Pulling away slowly is much easier on my clutch and engine anyway!. Waiting further back leave room for emergency vehicles and keep me clear from exhaust fumes as well as allow safe space for hurrying pedestrians!, I get where I want to go in exactly the same time but far more pleased with myself!, giving is far nicer than winning!. Cheers, Richard.
This so widespread and IMO, doesn't get prosecuted enough. It's not just HGVs or vans, not even mostly them, but I think drivers of higher vehicles believe that because they can see over the vehicle they're tailgating, that they're immune from the risk of a sudden slow/stop for perfectly justified reasons (ie. _not_ a brake check). They are not.
Unfortunately many forces require a collision before any real enforcement is made, until then it is simply off to the head teachers office to pickup a letter to take home for the parents…or more officially referred to as a “letter reminding the driver of their responsibility on the road”
This really gets my goat. Being a cyclist and a motorist I get this occasionally from car drivers when cycling, quite often from car drivers when driving and very occasionally from HGV drivers when driving.
I was walking down the A499 on the Llyn Peninsula last year (on my coastal walk) and it was so funny to watch half a dozen cars come past nose to tail, then there was a gap of a minute or so, then another six cars came past nose to tail, then there was a minute gap, etc, You get the idea. They could have all driven 10 seconds apart, never seen another car the whole way and had a much nicer stress free journey. Tailgating is stupid isn't it.
I haven't and will never understand why people think its ok to drive in this manner. We all make mistakes no matter how much experience we have on the roads. People seriously need to be educated on the risks of dangerous driving and its impacts on others. We should all strive to be like Ashley Neal. Make it a non event, drive in a staggered formation, look for pockects of space. The roads would ve be a lot safer if people we more patient
People forget, I had to diplomatically point out that my dad was tailing in a 50 zone, he hadn't noticed he was even doing it. I gently pointed out that the driver in front wasn't going to pass a tractor because they were too close to see past the tractor. My dad realised he was too close and backed off.
This is my biggest bugbare. More than once, I have had this happen to me. Normally I get flashed and a beeping horn. Hopefully I will be able to invest in front and rear cameras this year. Drivers seem to feel they are intitled to Force you to exceed the speed limit. 🤨
@@AndrewDavies-e3f absolutely! And glad to hear about the dash cams, my dad has finally been persuaded into getting front and rear camera after watching my channel!
I don't particularly get that hung up about someone being there - I just have to slow earlier to make sure that they don't run into the back of me but the best thing about the cruse control on my car is that I can set it at whatever speed I like and if someone is tailgating me I click it down 1mph at at time until they either back off or pass me.
As a ''retired'' LGV driver instructor, training our military, [which I suspect you know about?]...I would tell students that if they are on a 'major' route, or the 'main' road , and they come up to a sign warning of a road junction ahead.....and they cannot physically see that junction at that point, then they need to ease off their speed in case there's a slow moving vehicle emerging. Even when driving on the main road [, it doesn't absolve drivers or riders from exercising proper care & attention. However, there's no convincing drivers about this. Until they're in front of a Magistrate! In the clip, the LGV driver would have passed such a warning sign....before the bend....So they obviously ignored the sign, as so many driver do...Until they find it being used in evidence against them. Another point regarding speed limits...especially on a single carriageway, rural, where the NSL applies. ANY goods vehicle, with a loaded [kerb] weight [to makers' specifications] in excess of 2 tonnes, is subject to a 50 mph speed limit. The 2 tonnes refers to the definition of a CDV [Car-derived van].. Every goods vehicle [as noted in their V5C]...above that weight has the same 50 mph speed limit. As does every PCV [ bus, for the uninitiated] minibus over 8 seats capacity..even stretch limos! . In practice, the only vehicles on a rural single carriageway with a speed limit over 50 mph will be cars, and motorcycles [I include vans registered as dual purpose vehicles, and the smaller motor caravans in this].. Everything else on our roads would be subject to the 50 mph limit, where the NSL rural applies. Much simplified once the LGV speed limit was raised from 40 mph to 50 mph. Incidentally, the 40 mph LGV [over 7.5 tonnes GVW, ] speed limit remained in force for so long,owing to tests conducted back int he 1980's, regarding how long it took various cars, etc, to overtake a 'normal' articulated lorry travelling at 40 mph, compared to one travelling at 50 mph. Cars varied from Porsche to Citroen 2CV, using various methods of conducting an overtake manoeuver. When overtaking an artic travelling at 50 mph, but remaining within one's own speed limit [60 mph]...even a Porsche required a heck of a lot of clear road ahead, on the opposite side of the road, in order to pass safe & clear. [Both the Porsche, and the Citroen 2CV, required exactly the same amount of time to move out, pass, and return when clear, if they approached the rear end of the artic travelling at, or close to, their own speed limit of 60 mph. It took a lot longer, requiring a lot more clear road coming the other way, if starting the overtake from the same speed as the artic!!!] Today, the 50 mph speed limit [if adhered to, but that's another issue entirely]... of goods vehicles or PCVs is, to my jaundiced, once professional, eye to be a very sneaky way of actually lowering overall traffic speeds on our over-used single carriageway roads. Given that far too many car drivers cannot effect a safe overtake, in accordance with the Highway Code....and, of course, the Law. With regards to the video? Many folk know little about the existence of the Area Traffic Commissioners, and the responsibilities they hold, and how they can affect, Cat C[+E], and PCV [Cat D] licence holders. Amongst other duties, they are responsible for governing the conduct of Cat C licence holders on the roads. All they need is for joe public to send them appropriate evidence, more often. Effectively, only a Court can remove a driving licence. But a Traffic Commissioner has the power to suspend a vocational licence category [pending investigation, etc etc]...Thus depriving an HGV driver who consistently displays an inappropriate attitude on the roads.....from a means of earning their living, paying their mortgage, etc....and all that those aspects can imply. The trade press used to be full of examples of the work of Traffic Commissioners....
What about 147... Be considerate. Be careful of and considerate towards all types of road users, especially those requiring extra care - slow down and hold back if a road user pulls out into your path at a junction. Allow them to get clear. Do not over-react by driving too close behind to intimidate them I am very mindful of not over reacting anymore. I used to be terrible as you know, I have commented recently by attitude was awful out there. People make mistakes, people have momentary lapses, I make mistakes and hope others understand and don't over react. At the end of the day, we are all trying to reach our destination and does it really make a huge difference to the overall time getting all huffy and shouty? In my experience, it actually increases the journey time overall
You forgot to mention, tailgating can also be distracting for the person being tailgated and that could be dangerous for other road users and pedestrians. I was tailgated by a HGV on our local stretch of A34 in Oxfordshire, the road was down to 45 MPH in both lanes and it was busy, the HGV driver was on my back bumper whilst I was leaving a 3 car length gap between me and the vehicle in front which according to my driver info was 2.2 seconds, I can never understand the mentality of some drivers, me closing the gap was not going to make the traffic in front move any faster. As for your comments on prosecution, I think it may depend on the Police force in question but Thames Valley Police are useless, I've submitted 3 sets of footage of tailgating, in all three cases we are talking 50mph in a 50mph limit and the vehicle behind being so close you couldn't see their headlights or grill, in all three cases the police said there was insufficient evidence that they were driving dangerously.
Of all the ways that drivers increase risk, tailgating has got to be the stupidest and the easiest to fix. Driving perfectly by anticipating every hazard is tricky, but NOT TAILGATING is EASY. Just don't do it. I was going to say it happens to me more often with HGVs but perhaps I just remember them more because of the size. I do wonder if part of it is that they are watching their fuel consumption and/or have deadlines so don't want to adjust their speed.
Everyone who has viewed this video will be able to tell a similar story. I had this with hgv following, but flashing headlights and horn as well. The problem I had was that I couldn’t go any faster coz the car in front was limiting my speed and I couldn’t change lane as I was leaving the motorway. The lorry driver wanted me to close up the separation between my car and the one in front (I guess!) of me which I didn’t want to do I was a safe distance. Appeals to better nature are a waste of time. These drivers are psychotic I reckon. I reported it to his employer with footage who did respond and advised they had taken disciplinary action. No idea what.
I use the Betaris box approach with other drivers, it takes some training to not engage in a manner which can escalate, but by letting last minute pull ins or poor driving.
There are too many new (and not so new) LGV drivers who believe cars are to be swatted out of the way. Driving standards aren't being maintained by speed cameras alone we need more traffic police presence on our roads. And yes, I held both LGV 1 and PCV licences. Now retired.
We also need people to stop blocking mobile speed and safety camera vans like a certain recovery driver did a few hours ago These people complain about the lack of policing on the roads and then proceed to block then performing their duty thus taking further officers away from other jobs to deal with them. They then fail to see the irony in what they are doing 🤷🏻♂️
you were going 57-58 at times in this video, on a road that looks like national speed limit. So you were doing the correct speed, and even if the truck driver was catching up as you pulled out he should have stopped catching up when you were at speed...but he seemed to continue gaining on you. Not saying that the HGV driver was speeding, but it is likely.
Imagine having just a fraction of a second between that heavy goods vehicle (HGV) and your car. It's incredibly dangerous! HGVs take several seconds longer than cars to come to an emergency stop. Rule 126 of the Highway Code specifically mentions, "If driving a large vehicle in a tunnel, you should allow a four-second gap between you and the vehicle in front." This rule is crucial even outside of tunnels, where there may be no escape route for large vehicles either. Let's make our roads safer by insisting HGVs keep a four-second gap, no matter where they are driving. Your safety-and the safety of others-depends on it.
The cars with adaptive cruise control have the technology to stop it even in manual driving by warning of stopping distances. It's a shame, I enjoy driving. Different aspects at different times but when people only want to enjoy 'fast' then it ruins it for everyone else.
I am of the opinion that penalties are not harsh enough. there are too many drivers on the roads today that have no consideration of other road users. I only do an average of 1000 miles per year and on a weekly basis I could make a 4-5 min video of inconsiderate and dangerous drivers.
to be honest its not the penalties that are the problem, or not all of it, its the fact the chances of being subjected to said penalties are vanishing small unless you actually collide. e.g. muppets (in all sorts of vehicles) tailgate, and since its not prosecuted by cameras its not prosecuted on those wittering about how in say a 50 limit the HGV has a "more accurate" speedo than a car is a red herring, back off, safe distance
Tail gating in larger vehicles like pickups, SUVs, large vans and lorries is definitely far more dangerous and life threatening for other road users and ought to be treated as more serious. Not excusing drivers of smaller vehicles either. But then the Police seem to do little about anyone doing this. Its not even unheard of for Police cars to be driven in the same manner!
Just put your right signal on and show brake lights. I've driven miles with the right signal on. Worse case slow down to a speed where the tailgating doesn't matter until they overtake.
i find it interesting you stopped showing what was ahead of you and only focused on the rear camera, because if i was in this situation and the road ahead was clear i would pull ahead knowing its likely the limiter on his lorry will keep that driver at 56mph and i can increase the gap. when you emerged it looked like traffic was far enough up the road you could reach 60 mph. i really hope you have decided to not use this situation to make content for the sake of content and that there were reasons you could not go to the speed limit to increase the gap to make a safe pocket of space. my dad was an advanced driving instructor and hgv driver (and a builder), so my knowledge comes from him. his opinion of tipper/bulk lorrys were some drivers chase the incentive to get as many loads in a day and are likely to tailgate because time is money to them. no proof that it is true but why else is it common for those types of lorry drivers to tailgate than curtain siders or tanker lorrys? a lot of lorry drivers play with the 10% +2 guidelines because on the limiter they are just within them. i work for a fertiliser company based in Dundee, liquid fertiliser ships come into Dundee and 14 to 17 lorrys spend a day or 2 delivering it to Perth depending on the amount needed, my job is to hook the pipes up and help them fill up. chatting to some of the drivers, they get paid for the tonnage, so the incentive is there for the self employed drivers to be on the limiter down the A90 duel carriageway and get as many loads in as they can ( the closer to the end the less lorrys need to come back so some get 3 runs in total and some get 6 runs), they get annoyed when drivers ar doing less than 55mph, o have no idea if any of them tailgate. yes tailgating is silly, useless, doesnt get you there faster, but without the law being enforced its straight forward to get away with. if a driver is driving in a way that is slower than what a lorry is able to do for that road, they need educated just as much as the dangerous lorry drivers that tailgate for no reason. both types of driving add risk to a situation, with a slow car driver it is causing congestion to build up if lorrys are slowly overtaking them on a 2 lane motorway. on a single lane carriage way the risk is the lorry will not stop in time if needed plus the pressure of intimidation on the car driver adds to the cognitive load of driving and distracting the driver.
I want to know why the speed drops at 2:37 from 55/56mph down to 42mph, then speeds back up again. It looks like a downhill gradient too. So if he’s that concerned about him getting too close, why is he braking sharply?
If the GPS speed of the dashcam says 56, it is likely that his speedometer is reading 58 or 59 so he isn’t going to go any faster in an attempt to lose the lorry.
@@douglasreid699 thanks for the comment, I do appreciate what you’re saying but I start easing off as I approach a roundabout. It’s generally a good idea not to approach those at 60 MPH. I take your point but I focused on what I felt was relevant.
@@JamesSimpkinsADIGotcha. When I watched it I saw the speed drop, then speed back up to over 50. But after watching it several times I’ve noticed that speed increase is going back to a clip further back. My bad! Nowt takes away from him going way over 50, and driving like a dick! Typical tipper really?
@JamesSimpkinsADI Do what I did. Get someone you know to park behind you and position themselves where you think they are tailgating by looking in your rear view mirror. Then get out and look and measure with a tape measure. From memory it was about 5.25 metres (17 feet) in my car. Then get in the back car and compare how close you drive behind the car in front. One would hope it is a minimum of 20 metres (66 feet).
The attitude when driving should simply to look after each other and if someone pulls out or does something they shouldn't have done or annoys you because it's not technically correct in the highway code don't be a **** about it .
A question on this, the entrance to my village is off a single carriageway road, with a national speed limit. However, there are street lights (x3) around that junction on the national speed limit road, and the words 'SLOW' painted either side of the turn off. I think that means vehicles using the road should slow to 30mph as they pass the junction, but nobody does. What is the situation here, there are no speed signs on the lamp posts, and the lamp posts are close together.
@@NeilFirbank-en1yd I shall shave my hair and adopt a scouse accent for my future videos. He’s done UA-cam a lot longer than I have , so I would not be surprised if you prefer him. You’re free to watch who you like, isn’t that wonderful
Hi could you please explain how I got 4 points for this i was going straight on at a roundabout, and a car was in a right turn lane only, but he went straight on and forced his went between me and the lorry in front and forced me to break
3:54 "Dangerous and careless driving offences, such as tailgating, are enforced by the police"
Nowhere near enough.
@@weevilinabox couldn’t agree more, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone pulled for tailgating despite it being a pandemic!
Thames Valley Police are useless, when it comes to prosecuting from submitted dash cam footage.
Send this footage immediately to your local Police force using the “report it online” portal. All submitted footage will be looked into and the appropriate action taken.
At my one and only driver awareness course, the lady very eloquently put it like this. "Leave a 4 second gap and you can only lose 4 seconds at a time." It's not hard. Sadly a lot people drive reactively and no proactively.
I'm sick of being intimidated by tailgating. I've only been driving for 3 months and it happens every day. I will absolutely not break the speed limit but drivers behind bully me by tailgating. If I don't speed up, they will overtake me in a dangerous area, like at a junction or roundabout. Terrifying. One reason I took my P plates off is this intimidation. It still happens so all I can do is stick to driving safely and hope nothing runs out/pulls out in front of me and I have to slam my brakes on. At night I'm pretty much blinded by their headlights in the rear view mirror and side mirrors when they're right up my behind too. I'm so sick of it.
Please send the clip and reference to your UA-cam video to the firm employing this dangerous driver. There needs to be consequences to their actions.
Hi D I UK, much of what you say to us resonates well for me, this time the attitude thing is definitely one that I understand, when I started riding motor bikes I was terrified of the other traffic! while sensible observation of the road and its surface allowed some margin of safety some other drivers were far too unpredictable!. as my skills and confidence increased so did my speeds as I got more powerful machines, at the same time I became much more assertive treating all other road users with what amounts to contempt, especially for those who clearly lacked confidence and did not appear to like driving.
Looking back I do not exactly feel ashamed of how I behaved I never actually harmed anyone else, certainly upset quite a few in passing. It took several decades for me to calm down a bit, even now I do get the odd flash of frustration, it is always far too easy to find fault in others.
My main preoccupation now is getting to where I want be with the absolute minimum of stress and tension and find a safe clear pocket in the traffic, I now find that I can predict what other drivers are going to do next, there is something about the way people drive that indicates their attitude and temperament and react accordingly. I know that other drivers are woefully unready to move when traffic lights change, I thought it was good idea to be in first gear with the clutch at the start of its bite as soon as the light turn to orange and start to move on the green, now I understand that this is far too soon for some drivers, they need to wait until the green shows to release the handbrake, then get in gear then start to move, that is what the are like and no amount of hassle from me will make a difference so I stay a bit further back so that I can start to move when it suits me but only move very slowly, this allows the one behind me to get going a bit sooner and so on, we all have to wait for the dozy twat at the front but no harm is done!. Pulling away slowly is much easier on my clutch and engine anyway!. Waiting further back leave room for emergency vehicles and keep me clear from exhaust fumes as well as allow safe space for hurrying pedestrians!, I get where I want to go in exactly the same time but far more pleased with myself!, giving is far nicer than winning!.
Cheers, Richard.
Too long.
@@davidellis8141 Hi David, too short.
Cheers, Richard.
The white line is 4m gap 2m white, so at 2:33 the HGV was about half a second behind.
This so widespread and IMO, doesn't get prosecuted enough. It's not just HGVs or vans, not even mostly them, but I think drivers of higher vehicles believe that because they can see over the vehicle they're tailgating, that they're immune from the risk of a sudden slow/stop for perfectly justified reasons (ie. _not_ a brake check). They are not.
Unfortunately many forces require a collision before any real enforcement is made, until then it is simply off to the head teachers office to pickup a letter to take home for the parents…or more officially referred to as a “letter reminding the driver of their responsibility on the road”
This really gets my goat. Being a cyclist and a motorist I get this occasionally from car drivers when cycling, quite often from car drivers when driving and very occasionally from HGV drivers when driving.
I was walking down the A499 on the Llyn Peninsula last year (on my coastal walk) and it was so funny to watch half a dozen cars come past nose to tail, then there was a gap of a minute or so, then another six cars came past nose to tail, then there was a minute gap, etc, You get the idea. They could have all driven 10 seconds apart, never seen another car the whole way and had a much nicer stress free journey. Tailgating is stupid isn't it.
I call them idiot trains
I haven't and will never understand why people think its ok to drive in this manner. We all make mistakes no matter how much experience we have on the roads. People seriously need to be educated on the risks of dangerous driving and its impacts on others. We should all strive to be like Ashley Neal. Make it a non event, drive in a staggered formation, look for pockects of space. The roads would ve be a lot safer if people we more patient
People forget, I had to diplomatically point out that my dad was tailing in a 50 zone, he hadn't noticed he was even doing it. I gently pointed out that the driver in front wasn't going to pass a tractor because they were too close to see past the tractor. My dad realised he was too close and backed off.
I've long thought attitude as well as aptitude should be tested (and regularly rechecked).
This is my biggest bugbare. More than once, I have had this happen to me. Normally I get flashed and a beeping horn. Hopefully I will be able to invest in front and rear cameras this year. Drivers seem to feel they are intitled to Force you to exceed the speed limit. 🤨
@@AndrewDavies-e3f absolutely! And glad to hear about the dash cams, my dad has finally been persuaded into getting front and rear camera after watching my channel!
I don't particularly get that hung up about someone being there - I just have to slow earlier to make sure that they don't run into the back of me but the best thing about the cruse control on my car is that I can set it at whatever speed I like and if someone is tailgating me I click it down 1mph at at time until they either back off or pass me.
As a ''retired'' LGV driver instructor, training our military, [which I suspect you know about?]...I would tell students that if they are on a 'major' route, or the 'main' road , and they come up to a sign warning of a road junction ahead.....and they cannot physically see that junction at that point, then they need to ease off their speed in case there's a slow moving vehicle emerging. Even when driving on the main road [, it doesn't absolve drivers or riders from exercising proper care & attention. However, there's no convincing drivers about this. Until they're in front of a Magistrate! In the clip, the LGV driver would have passed such a warning sign....before the bend....So they obviously ignored the sign, as so many driver do...Until they find it being used in evidence against them.
Another point regarding speed limits...especially on a single carriageway, rural, where the NSL applies. ANY goods vehicle, with a loaded [kerb] weight [to makers' specifications] in excess of 2 tonnes, is subject to a 50 mph speed limit. The 2 tonnes refers to the definition of a CDV [Car-derived van].. Every goods vehicle [as noted in their V5C]...above that weight has the same 50 mph speed limit. As does every PCV [ bus, for the uninitiated] minibus over 8 seats capacity..even stretch limos! .
In practice, the only vehicles on a rural single carriageway with a speed limit over 50 mph will be cars, and motorcycles [I include vans registered as dual purpose vehicles, and the smaller motor caravans in this]..
Everything else on our roads would be subject to the 50 mph limit, where the NSL rural applies.
Much simplified once the LGV speed limit was raised from 40 mph to 50 mph.
Incidentally, the 40 mph LGV [over 7.5 tonnes GVW, ] speed limit remained in force for so long,owing to tests conducted back int he 1980's, regarding how long it took various cars, etc, to overtake a 'normal' articulated lorry travelling at 40 mph, compared to one travelling at 50 mph. Cars varied from Porsche to Citroen 2CV, using various methods of conducting an overtake manoeuver. When overtaking an artic travelling at 50 mph, but remaining within one's own speed limit [60 mph]...even a Porsche required a heck of a lot of clear road ahead, on the opposite side of the road, in order to pass safe & clear.
[Both the Porsche, and the Citroen 2CV, required exactly the same amount of time to move out, pass, and return when clear, if they approached the rear end of the artic travelling at, or close to, their own speed limit of 60 mph. It took a lot longer, requiring a lot more clear road coming the other way, if starting the overtake from the same speed as the artic!!!]
Today, the 50 mph speed limit [if adhered to, but that's another issue entirely]... of goods vehicles or PCVs is, to my jaundiced, once professional, eye to be a very sneaky way of actually lowering overall traffic speeds on our over-used single carriageway roads. Given that far too many car drivers cannot effect a safe overtake, in accordance with the Highway Code....and, of course, the Law.
With regards to the video?
Many folk know little about the existence of the Area Traffic Commissioners, and the responsibilities they hold, and how they can affect, Cat C[+E], and PCV [Cat D] licence holders.
Amongst other duties, they are responsible for governing the conduct of Cat C licence holders on the roads.
All they need is for joe public to send them appropriate evidence, more often.
Effectively, only a Court can remove a driving licence.
But a Traffic Commissioner has the power to suspend a vocational licence category [pending investigation, etc etc]...Thus depriving an HGV driver who consistently displays an inappropriate attitude on the roads.....from a means of earning their living, paying their mortgage, etc....and all that those aspects can imply.
The trade press used to be full of examples of the work of Traffic Commissioners....
@@alastairqueen7973 thank you so much for taking the time to write that, fantastic insight
As someone who drives a Smart car (which easily does the speed limit and picks up nicely) I'll say this - welcome to my world.
What about 147...
Be considerate. Be careful of and considerate towards all types of road users, especially those requiring extra care
- slow down and hold back if a road user pulls out into your path at a junction. Allow them to get clear. Do not over-react by driving too close behind to intimidate them
I am very mindful of not over reacting anymore. I used to be terrible as you know, I have commented recently by attitude was awful out there. People make mistakes, people have momentary lapses, I make mistakes and hope others understand and don't over react. At the end of the day, we are all trying to reach our destination and does it really make a huge difference to the overall time getting all huffy and shouty? In my experience, it actually increases the journey time overall
@@smilerbob perfect, well done you that’s the sentence I was trying to find and forgot to find it! Thank you 🙏
You forgot to mention, tailgating can also be distracting for the person being tailgated and that could be dangerous for other road users and pedestrians. I was tailgated by a HGV on our local stretch of A34 in Oxfordshire, the road was down to 45 MPH in both lanes and it was busy, the HGV driver was on my back bumper whilst I was leaving a 3 car length gap between me and the vehicle in front which according to my driver info was 2.2 seconds, I can never understand the mentality of some drivers, me closing the gap was not going to make the traffic in front move any faster.
As for your comments on prosecution, I think it may depend on the Police force in question but Thames Valley Police are useless, I've submitted 3 sets of footage of tailgating, in all three cases we are talking 50mph in a 50mph limit and the vehicle behind being so close you couldn't see their headlights or grill, in all three cases the police said there was insufficient evidence that they were driving dangerously.
Of all the ways that drivers increase risk, tailgating has got to be the stupidest and the easiest to fix. Driving perfectly by anticipating every hazard is tricky, but NOT TAILGATING is EASY. Just don't do it. I was going to say it happens to me more often with HGVs but perhaps I just remember them more because of the size. I do wonder if part of it is that they are watching their fuel consumption and/or have deadlines so don't want to adjust their speed.
Everyone who has viewed this video will be able to tell a similar story. I had this with hgv following, but flashing headlights and horn as well. The problem I had was that I couldn’t go any faster coz the car in front was limiting my speed and I couldn’t change lane as I was leaving the motorway. The lorry driver wanted me to close up the separation between my car and the one in front (I guess!) of me which I didn’t want to do I was a safe distance. Appeals to better nature are a waste of time. These drivers are psychotic I reckon. I reported it to his employer with footage who did respond and advised they had taken disciplinary action. No idea what.
I use the Betaris box approach with other drivers, it takes some training to not engage in a manner which can escalate, but by letting last minute pull ins or poor driving.
1:51 Was there not an option to stop and let it go? I would have been tempted to, especially if it was clear to the right, which it is.
There are too many new (and not so new) LGV drivers who believe cars are to be swatted out of the way. Driving standards aren't being maintained by speed cameras alone we need more traffic police presence on our roads. And yes, I held both LGV 1 and PCV licences. Now retired.
We also need people to stop blocking mobile speed and safety camera vans like a certain recovery driver did a few hours ago
These people complain about the lack of policing on the roads and then proceed to block then performing their duty thus taking further officers away from other jobs to deal with them. They then fail to see the irony in what they are doing 🤷🏻♂️
@@eddiegremlin absolutely, definitely not enough traffic police 👮🏼♀️
you were going 57-58 at times in this video, on a road that looks like national speed limit. So you were doing the correct speed, and even if the truck driver was catching up as you pulled out he should have stopped catching up when you were at speed...but he seemed to continue gaining on you. Not saying that the HGV driver was speeding, but it is likely.
Well national speed limit is lower for HGVs so he shouldn't be catching him up anyway.
@@adamwhite1556 they should be doing no more than 50mph (80kph) on a single carriageway and should have never caught up!
Imagine having just a fraction of a second between that heavy goods vehicle (HGV) and your car. It's incredibly dangerous! HGVs take several seconds longer than cars to come to an emergency stop.
Rule 126 of the Highway Code specifically mentions, "If driving a large vehicle in a tunnel, you should allow a four-second gap between you and the vehicle in front." This rule is crucial even outside of tunnels, where there may be no escape route for large vehicles either.
Let's make our roads safer by insisting HGVs keep a four-second gap, no matter where they are driving. Your safety-and the safety of others-depends on it.
The cars with adaptive cruise control have the technology to stop it even in manual driving by warning of stopping distances.
It's a shame, I enjoy driving.
Different aspects at different times but when people only want to enjoy 'fast' then it ruins it for everyone else.
I am of the opinion that penalties are not harsh enough. there are too many drivers on the roads today that have no consideration of other road users. I only do an average of 1000 miles per year and on a weekly basis I could make a 4-5 min video of inconsiderate and dangerous drivers.
to be honest its not the penalties that are the problem, or not all of it, its the fact the chances of being subjected to said penalties are vanishing small unless you actually collide.
e.g. muppets (in all sorts of vehicles) tailgate, and since its not prosecuted by cameras its not prosecuted
on those wittering about how in say a 50 limit the HGV has a "more accurate" speedo than a car is a red herring, back off, safe distance
Tail gating in larger vehicles like pickups, SUVs, large vans and lorries is definitely far more dangerous and life threatening for other road users and ought to be treated as more serious. Not excusing drivers of smaller vehicles either. But then the Police seem to do little about anyone doing this. Its not even unheard of for Police cars to be driven in the same manner!
Just put your right signal on and show brake lights. I've driven miles with the right signal on. Worse case slow down to a speed where the tailgating doesn't matter until they overtake.
i find it interesting you stopped showing what was ahead of you and only focused on the rear camera, because if i was in this situation and the road ahead was clear i would pull ahead knowing its likely the limiter on his lorry will keep that driver at 56mph and i can increase the gap. when you emerged it looked like traffic was far enough up the road you could reach 60 mph. i really hope you have decided to not use this situation to make content for the sake of content and that there were reasons you could not go to the speed limit to increase the gap to make a safe pocket of space.
my dad was an advanced driving instructor and hgv driver (and a builder), so my knowledge comes from him. his opinion of tipper/bulk lorrys were some drivers chase the incentive to get as many loads in a day and are likely to tailgate because time is money to them. no proof that it is true but why else is it common for those types of lorry drivers to tailgate than curtain siders or tanker lorrys?
a lot of lorry drivers play with the 10% +2 guidelines because on the limiter they are just within them. i work for a fertiliser company based in Dundee, liquid fertiliser ships come into Dundee and 14 to 17 lorrys spend a day or 2 delivering it to Perth depending on the amount needed, my job is to hook the pipes up and help them fill up. chatting to some of the drivers, they get paid for the tonnage, so the incentive is there for the self employed drivers to be on the limiter down the A90 duel carriageway and get as many loads in as they can ( the closer to the end the less lorrys need to come back so some get 3 runs in total and some get 6 runs), they get annoyed when drivers ar doing less than 55mph, o have no idea if any of them tailgate.
yes tailgating is silly, useless, doesnt get you there faster, but without the law being enforced its straight forward to get away with. if a driver is driving in a way that is slower than what a lorry is able to do for that road, they need educated just as much as the dangerous lorry drivers that tailgate for no reason. both types of driving add risk to a situation, with a slow car driver it is causing congestion to build up if lorrys are slowly overtaking them on a 2 lane motorway. on a single lane carriage way the risk is the lorry will not stop in time if needed plus the pressure of intimidation on the car driver adds to the cognitive load of driving and distracting the driver.
I want to know why the speed drops at 2:37 from 55/56mph down to 42mph, then speeds back up again. It looks like a downhill gradient too. So if he’s that concerned about him getting too close, why is he braking sharply?
If the GPS speed of the dashcam says 56, it is likely that his speedometer is reading 58 or 59 so he isn’t going to go any faster in an attempt to lose the lorry.
@@douglasreid699 thanks for the comment, I do appreciate what you’re saying but I start easing off as I approach a roundabout. It’s generally a good idea not to approach those at 60 MPH. I take your point but I focused on what I felt was relevant.
@@katyb6979 it’s coming up to a roundabout. Hence slowing down
@@JamesSimpkinsADIGotcha. When I watched it I saw the speed drop, then speed back up to over 50. But after watching it several times I’ve noticed that speed increase is going back to a clip further back. My bad!
Nowt takes away from him going way over 50, and driving like a dick! Typical tipper really?
@JamesSimpkinsADI Do what I did. Get someone you know to park behind you and position themselves where you think they are tailgating by looking in your rear view mirror. Then get out and look and measure with a tape measure. From memory it was about 5.25 metres (17 feet) in my car. Then get in the back car and compare how close you drive behind the car in front. One would hope it is a minimum of 20 metres (66 feet).
The attitude when driving should simply to look after each other and if someone pulls out or does something they shouldn't have done or annoys you because it's not technically correct in the highway code don't be a **** about it .
A question on this, the entrance to my village is off a single carriageway road, with a national speed limit. However, there are street lights (x3) around that junction on the national speed limit road, and the words 'SLOW' painted either side of the turn off. I think that means vehicles using the road should slow to 30mph as they pass the junction, but nobody does. What is the situation here, there are no speed signs on the lamp posts, and the lamp posts are close together.
I always watch Ashley Neal, he does a better job at the explanation and sounds better
@@NeilFirbank-en1yd I shall shave my hair and adopt a scouse accent for my future videos. He’s done UA-cam a lot longer than I have , so I would not be surprised if you prefer him. You’re free to watch who you like, isn’t that wonderful
Hi could you please explain how I got 4 points for this i was going straight on at a roundabout, and a car was in a right turn lane only, but he went straight on and forced his went between me and the lorry in front and forced me to break