DIY Dust Collector System with Homemade Blast Gates and Automatic Start/Stop Function
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Continuing off with my DIY dust collector cyclone system I added all the duct work to hook up dust collection to my tools. I show how I added dust ports to the router table, drill press, table saw and band saw. The drill press dust collection is via a loc-line system sold by lee valley. I made homemade blast gates from some hardboard and 5/8 melamine particle board. I used a non contact magnet door alarm system to control a low voltage dc relay to control the motor operation when the blast gates are opened and closed.
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Some great ideas there. Over the years I have ended up with more than five powertool brands. I have been trying to work out a system which uses a house vacuum with PVC and pool hose or something similar. You just helped solved some of my biggest problems. Great to see a channel that doesn't just use off the shelf solutions. Not all of us can find them in countries where small populations mean less consumer choice. My workshop can get damp so I will probably substitute perspex or acrylic for my gates to reduce the chance of swelling. You just gained a new subscriber by the way.
This is a valuable addition to my woodwork collection ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxbnOKZBE4evMO5V2vroHeCjq6d_MV6wJO I still will rate this woodwork plan as the best in my reference library. It always seem to stand out from the rest whenever you go through the library. This is a masterpiece.
The switches to power on the dust collector is great, where did you get everything you need?
Matt Spry Yes, great minds want to know.
Matt
@@TheFalconJetDriver So old, but maybe others are wondering. That is a door contact meant for installation inside door frames by the looks of it. They are inexpensive and mostly used to monitor Open / Closed state of doors. In this case they are delivering a control voltage to the DC relay which switches on the machines.
awesome job putting the exhaust vent right above the door.
Thanks
awesome idea on the blast gates. I'm cheap and have all these materials(minus the cool relay switches)to build these for the collection system i'm working on right now. The only issue i would have is the exhaust venting outside, it would pull cold air into the shop in our Canadian winters. Great vid.
my garage right now is the same temp as outside temp so wasn't a factor for me. When i actually get fed up with that and buy a heater i will have to install a filter on the exhaust and disconnect the exterior vent.
@@DIYBuilds I wondered about that. My shop is heated but not cooled. I am thinking about a gate outside for summer or to a filter for winter use. Do you think that is a practical idea? How much dust actually gets to the exhaust. My placement would put the external exhaust on the front side of my shop so I need to manage mess to prevent a 'domestic harmony' issue.
I've never noticed any dust outside.
[southern accent] "Them are some pretty pilot holes you got there boy"
That’s what he said.
One of the best executed dust collection builds I've seen. Well done, thanks for sharing.
+Farmercl's Woodshop thank you for the compliment.
Thanks for sharing this video. Great ideas.
Awesome video and all done. Thank you for the inspiration.
Well done! I'm all for using cyclones for dust collection in the wood shop. But for those that don't, well they can enjoy the constant cleaning out of those filthy clogged up canister filters that just get all clogged up again in a couple hours or less of use. Just sub'd to your channel.
Wonderful job
This is just awesome. Now if you would do it in slow motion I could follow. 😉
just amazing !
Solid work 👍
Hi.!
-- Beautiful work.
Impressive
Just great!
I got an idea to improve the system, by adding a passive heat exchanger and maybe repurpose an old fridge/freezer for additionally recollection of heat/cold as a heat pump.
This should save a large amount of heating energy and energy from the AC.
If you're interested I can write down my construction ideas.
I don't heat or cool my shop.
@@DIYBuilds You answered to someone else that this system got the drawback of not beeing able to climate control your shop, that got me thinking.
With a heat exchanger you could at least avoid moisture issues when working on hot day's with somewhat humid climate and a cool shop. And avoid having to freeze in winter if it's extremely cold.
Just an idea, hit me up if you have given it a second thought 😙🎶
Great man
That unsmoothed caulking glob on that outside vent is killing me.
I'm all about the globs
I’ve always thought it better to use 2-45 deg instead of 1 90 deg for bends
Im sure it is but that cost more money so I didn't do that lol
No your right you’ve gotta cut sometimes. Mostly it depends what you’re putting through there. I was a home builder I’m retired now and there were times when I made custom crown mounding . I had special knives made and made the crown out of 2x8s . So there was some chunks going through there. I have a grizzly 10 hp which is huge and not 2 stage so I’m going to remodel that. I also still have my original grizzly 2 hp. When I had big moldings to make I actually used both of them. Later I found the 5 hp enough of I ran straight 5” hose from the collector to my moulder. I had a couple 90s and they would clog if I tried to make moldings through them. I’m starting from scratch since I’ve moved so just checking out every bodies ideas. I’m going to put micro switches on my blast gates. They are super cheap then I just need to get a relay to start the machine.
Why build your own blast gates? you can get them for as cheep as $2.75 from Grizzly for a 4" Blast gate.
I really like the 2 1/2 lock line
Mine are better.
Hell yeah! Another awesome video!
A few questions, though... First, what changed your mind about venting outside/filtration since your video on the cyclone? when I asked you about it then, you said it wasn't a big deal. Just curious.
Second, when you installed the flange on the bottom of your table saw, I noticed you caulked everything in place. How do you plan on doing any maintenance to the saw?
Third, are you using 4" PVC, and if so, how well are you finding the extraction to be with your dust collector? Also, what size is your collector? I'm trying to compare against my 2hp Harbor Freight version.
As always, I love the video! Fantastic job, and I look forward to your next one. Oh, and good to see you over at /r/woodworking, too!
+crouton976 I decided to vent outside because the cyclone doesn't get the micro particles. if I have to tinker with the table saw breaking the caulking and redoing it won't be that bad. the system has very good suction at each station with the 4 inch and 2hp harbor freight motor. the miter saw which is furthest away has great suction.
DIY Builds Hell yeah, man. I was kinda worried about all the fine dust after the cyclone video, but I sure as hell wasn't going to tell you how to run your shop! :)
That's great that the system works so well. Like I said before, I'm getting ready to set mine up almost the exact same way, so that's fantastic to hear.
By the way, I'm the market for a new miter saw, but I need it to be somewhat compact. I'm designing a miter saw station that will also double as lumber and sheet good storage, and of course space in my shop is at a premium. Is there any way I could convince you to tell me the measurement from the back of the rails to the front of the fence on yours at 90 degrees?
+crouton976 you should look at the Bosch miter saw that has the 2 folding arms to save space
DIY Builds yeah, I've considered it, but dat price tag, tho...
Seriously, if I can get away with a less expensive saw fitting, I will, but if push comes to shove, I might end up going with the Bosch.
If you don't mind getting that measurement, that'd be awesome, but if not, no worries.
omg its 24inches from front of fence to back of slider mechanism.... and thats why mine overhangs my stairs lol
You should definitely seal behind the vent... Jeaus
It caulked all around. Jesus
Jesus!
Nice! (:
My only thing I see from the start is you are ducting the air outside instead of the conditioned air back into the room. If you are running AC you are basically removing all the AC air our of the area in a very short time.
No conditioned air
The relay to switch the power on is freakin brilliant!
was just about to post this. absolutely genius design.
I was watching and thinking that a dust collection like that I need in the shop I'm building and then the on/off switch came and I was WOW. Ingenious indeed!
That is brilliant, but what I thought was exceptional as well was the three way small hoses for the benchtop tools. This was a great job all around.
Agreed. Beautiful touch.
Awesome idea really. Could not be any more intuitive than that!
Only thing I would have done differently would be to make as many of the 90 degree fittings, as you could, by using two 45 degree fittings instead. Much better air flow. Great job.
Pretty sick man! I was thinking that it might get annoying having the system running all the time, and wondering how you were going to balance the system, and then BOOM! You added the sensors and relays! Mind blown, great job.
Great project! Excellent quality video as well! There's so many videos on YT with some guy mumbling, rambling, stuttering and stammering their way through the mostly-unnecessary explanation AND terrible camera work. A+ for this video!
I like the low voltage relay start. Showing the details of that system would make a good video.
Glad to see you aren't venting the dust inside!
Take a look at Bill Pentz website about dust collection. He has more information there than anywhere else I've found. He's wrong about not being able to safety vent inside through a filter but his website is a great resource for information and ideas.
For your system, if you switch from 90's and Tees to larger radius bends and Y's, your flow rates will increase significantly. I tested a system that I built with a 90 degree fitting and it was dropping half the pressure of the entire system. I got rid of the 90 and my flow rate went up 30%.
If your system is really capable of pulling 1700 cfm (it would have to be 220V 3hp or more to do that, most collectors way over rate flow rates) then you need 8" ducts to not reduce flow. I doubt the system is flowing over 500 cfm as it is. but if that's enough then it doesn't hurt anything to leave it as is. The motor draws less current with more restrictions (that's not intuitive but you can prove it's true but checking motor current with a clamp meter and changing the amount of restriction) so it just saves power.
I hope that is helpful information. Reading through Bill Pentz site is a great way to learn what works best and what your options are.
Tony Shulthise you're so smart. Now stfu 😄
These builds I like, no talking, just the working sounds. I can figure out the dimensions and materials and adaptations to my situation myself. But this video is loaded with great ideas and I'm gonna steal quite a few of them!
Someone has probably already said this... The irony is how much dust you had to create in order to build a dust collection system! :P Great work!
so this means , the egg came first !
@@suzylarry1 how do you know the dust was the egg?
Its like ...you have to loose in order to win .. dust for two days but no dust for ever
@@alexwhite5724 l-o-s-e. Only one -o, son.
@@alexwhite5724 Right? You lose the battle, but win the war against those nasty dust bunnies. Lol.
I need a v8 and a 🤦🏽♀️ lol I just realized you eliminated the need for stressing over pipe fittings and connections by screwing and cutting out the correct size pipe needed for a specific tool in each blastgate! Duh, I’d never have thought of that and after procrastinating on setting up my very own minor dust collection I feel like this way allows me to problem solve easily by drilling or cutting out the correct hole size of each connection into my own built blastgates. Thank you and I wish more builders would try this rather than melt a bunch of pvc pipes and break their wrists trying to shove pipes together lol
Finally!! A dust collection vid that shows something useful. The relay idea rocks. Also like the simplicity of your blast gates - some designs are total overkill.
+Tioga Fretworks thanks
I was going to exhaust my dust collector outside like you did, but I didn't want to lose the heat in the winter and my meager air conditioning in the summer. The turnover for the volume of the space is pretty surprising.
+mike susman I'm not heating or cooling my shop so this is good for me lol
Next time your in CT just swing by my garage and throw the same set up in real quick. Thanks!!!
Well gotta say one of the best dust extraction systems i have seen, and the video was well edited. don't know why the thumbs down be nice if they left a comment saying why.
All the best.
+DIY GAME TEK thanks
I never press any thumbs down but maybe it is because this is a ticking "dustfirebomb" . You should never use plastic tubing as dust collector unless you run aluminium tape on the inside and outside on the whole length of pipes and connect it to ground. With a little bad luck this will explode (perfect mixture of dust and oxygen) and set the house on fire due to static electricity. It has happened several times and even burned down big factorys.
+Johnny Andersson I am yet to hear of that ever happening in a small garage setup like this.
Agree. This is my first view on this channel, and I'm really impressed with how thorough he was with the DC system!
The only issue is if you are using it putting a lot of material through the system you will build up a static charge. The grounding by you may not be all that pleasant but I agree in a small shop causing a fire is not a real issue. If you want to, just stretch out a coil of thin cheap wire around the pipes to a ground.
This is a great video! Good production. I really like the whole setup. Plus, it really showcases your ingenuity, and creativity. It truly shows the DIY in a guy. I appreciate that. Once again, great job man! 👍👌
Hello
Here is France.
Very nice subject in this vidéo. I try to put this in my workshop.
And very nice music too, I love it.
See you soon.
my only question is, how could this genius video receive thumbs down? they’re probably mad because they couldn’t do something like this...this was amazing
People on UA-cam love to hate.
great video! thanks for the many details and solutions and keeping the pace rapid, informative with no droning narrative!!
I love this idea! I'm in the process of putting together my shop and a dedicated dust collection and air filter system is at the top of my list.
M manufacture of dust collector in India sir...
BRILLIANT... 💪💪💪👏👏👏👏
One of de BEST Practice Vidos ever.
I will show all my Friends.
THANKS FOR THAT VIDEO!
Great content & verbal clarity keep up the great content.
You just earned your "Professor Dust Collector" Badge.
Hi, first let me say that I really liked your video. It gave me a lot to think about, it was pretty instructive.
But I have a couple of questions. One is ask about the piping! PVC vs the flexible hoses. Now I know that the ridges of the flexhose affect the pressurized suction.
But let's just say, I have a very small shop "a bedroom turned into a shop, small shop to be exact", and I have a fair amount of flexible hose, and I want to build my dust collection system. It Would be for about 6 tools, or 6 hoses, 4 tools, and 2 loose hoses for hand tools and clean up.
So meaning 6 Blast-Gates.
Now here's the first question. If I would cut the flexible hoses, so they would reach each separate connector, to each Y connector "precisely" fairly tight, no bending of the hoses. They would fit pretty much to the exact length. Could it do as good OR close to as good as the PVC "as a some-what substitute" OR even as tight as possible the ridges would still cause a certain amount of loss of suction?
And 2nd. My Shop-Vac is a 2 1/2" hose 6.5HP. Now, Should I use 2 1/2" PVC piping all around? Or should I use a widener and use 4" pipping? Should I get better suction with the 4" or it would be the exact same with the 2 1/2"?
Please give me your professional opinion! I have 1 shot, so I need to do this right.
Thanks for your time and great video. Thumbs Up!
I love the editing you did - oh, and the dust collector was cool too. What software did you use for the editing?
Movie studio platinum 14
Awesome work. But my Shop is Not big enough for something like this. I use a mobile cyclone cart.
Got here by your comment over at John Heisz scrap bin Channel. 😉
+mopemaster the unit takes up as much floor space as my shop vac and the pipes are on the walls / ceiling so no real loss there.
The one thing I don't have is dust collection. Nice stainless shop vac I bought from Home Depot. Drag it around and duct tape. I was wondering, since you know Superman, and He broke out your brick wall, could you please send Him down to Florida?
Nice work and great video, I really enjoyed it. One question for you, where did you get the hose for the dril lpress? Thanks
+saltygx lee valley. called loc line
Thank you for the reply. Looking forward to new videos from your channels.
Thanks +diybuilds and +saltygx!
great job and lot of nice idea!!!! im working to set up my shop and i like your things ....just subscribe thx
Another fantastic build/video/idea...thanks for posting this.
+Charles P thanks
Well, your caulking could be improved, but other than that, awesome! Love the magnetic switches!
I do like the low voltage dc relay control operation. Does your entire system operate only by this method?
+Dallan Wordekemper yes all 7 gates control the motor.
Ok guys. Pack it up. Everybody can go home. This guy here won UA-cam.
The blast gates with switches to turn on the dust collector. Thats a patentable idea right there, boss. License that out and you can retire.
Great build!
I've gotta say, the editing of this video is A++
How well are the 90 deg bends working.. Also the 4 inch pipe doing OK too? With the 4 in combined with the 90's some people will make comments. Lastly, I hear problems with static electricity with plastic pipe. Do you see any issues? I am planning to use 4 in and just looking to avoid issues if I can. Thanks
None of the aforementioned has been an issue thus far
Holy crap that's useful. Just built a platform bed and now I have to sweep and vac a redwood out of my shop
Great stuff. Only thing I would change is the hard 90 turns for 2 45's.
Man that was awesome👍
This is a beautiful build and I got some great ideas following it, but I wouldn’t be cementing those joints because I odds are high that at some point I’m going to want to move things around a bit.
Love the video man! Really clever use of materials and methods. Smiled mercilessly at the three headed hose adapter you made, damn ingenious.👍
+Mike Johnson thanks
Great idea so everything is dust free
lg Rene
"Band saw cover" 1
"Tin snips" 0 ........ lol , i been there before .
VERY nice work. All I came here for was to see how to make my own cyclone within the system . Got more than I bargained for. Really like that blast gate . ( 4" into 3 - 1-1/2? 1-1/4? ) . Nice shop setup Man . You DID caulk / silicone that vent cover outside , right ?
Anyway , very nice craftsmanship Sir.
Subscrided and notified . Thank You.
Yup sure did. Thanks
That was awesome . Need to do that to my shop
A REALLY good video. I dont usually watch these vids but, hats off........Nice one. Picked up some useful tips too
Well done.
One question though:
The DC sucks air from the shop and presses it outside. Did you make a hole somewhere else in the shop so fresh air can get into it or are there already enough holes (=air leaks)? Because if there is no such opening (or number of openings), you would create a vacuum inside your shop and the effectiveness of your DC is lower as it could be. Just a thought.
Yes lots of leaks in my shop. That's the reason I dont climate control it.
I know this is an old thread, but it's important to note - If you have any gas appliances (heater, water heater), venting outside could cause carbon monoxide to be sucked into the shop. As the DC exhausts the air, the vacuum will cause air flow in from the heaters exhaust flues, bringing CO with it.
Thank you for bringing this up. I dont have any of the things you mentioned in my shop but I do have a wood burning heater which would of been a disaster had I vented mine to the outside.
@@DIYBuilds Is the system wireless controlled with the low voltage magnetic switches?
Watch my viewers comments #3 for more detail on my dust collection system
- How many tubes of caulking do you need?
- Yes!
Also:
If you don't listen to metal, you are not my friend :)
As a wannabe employer, I need to figure out how to hire time-lapse workers.
Excellent implementation of several clever ideas and use of materials. Great editing, too. For once, I appreciate all of the positive comments. They are spot-on.Thanks everybody.
Great video, Brad! How are you finding the 4" (?) PVC? Is it fine or do you get any blockage in the system. Keep up the good work!
Never had a blockage other than scraps falling into the bottom on the table saw flex tube which are easy enough to clean out. That would be fixed with a zero clearance insert. The 4" is good.
Just goes to show, a dust collection system shouldn’t cost an arm and a leg... that’s what the table saw is for. 🤭
siliconjob 1/10. rest very noice!!
LOL
agree. would it have killed him to run his finger around just one time! rest is awesome tho.
Am dead
I think it was very well done. i bet it would last forever. I am buying a Shopsmith dust collector this weekend.
Bad idea cementing all your joints. I would have just taped them it means you can re use them if you ever shift shops.
+apmountain if i move ill just cut them and use couplers
Always enjoy the sped up videos... there are few things worse than watching a guy grind on a riving knife for 6 minutes.
Wow bro That's fuckn awsome, and I love how you implicated the slides as switches. Perfect.
Ahhh crap.....thanks man.....thanks a lot for such a good video. Hey honey I'll be right back. Gotta run to home depot to get some stuff...……………………….
Very helpful video, thank you. I have seen many useful ideas.
Only the snotty gun is very bad in your hands. :)
Excellent setup. My only concern / question is about the 3-in-1 you made. Since the blast gate is before those, once you open it, all 3 are "sucking". Don't you get some loss of vacuum pressure by essentially having 2 of those sucking nothing while the 3rd is in use?
yes but its going from 4 inch to 1.5 x 3 so there is plenty of air already being restricted so they all suck evenly
Ah, cool. I guess you didn't want to make 3 mini-blast gates. :-D Thanks!
Hi Diy Builds. Really well edited video top marks. If only mine we 1/2 as good lol. I Subbed Well done!!
Thanks Gerry
Innovative and well thought out. Loved the homemade blast gates. Was thinking of doing something like this in my shop. Would also have to include the relay power switch. It's been said before. BRILLIANT.
Very cool. Love diy stuff. Just found your channel. Can't wait to binge watch to catch up.
Great job! Some company's wish they a vacuum system so good! Thanks for sharing.
Great job! Great mind! Over may head, though.
At last! Someone with the sense to exhaust to the outside of the workshop. Forget HEPA filters, and the cost of replacing them. Indeed, remove all filters. The cyclone will take almost all.
But by exhausting outside the workshop he gets rid of all his nice air conditioned air and has to re cool or heat the new air coming in. That's why most don't exhaust outside. It ruins your HVAC systems ability to efficiently regulate temporature.
Most people do not have HVAC systems in their workshops. Those who do can fit a heat exchanger.
First off, great video and great build! Curious what relay you used...do you happen to know the model number?
Look on amazon for a 24vac coil contactor. Should be like $20.
@@DIYBuilds, word! Thanks!!
I like how you ran the exhaust outside! What was that vent you used, and what does it look like on the wall/ground out there after using it?? Thanks for the great ideas!
Super simple design. Effective. I'm sure some people will say all kinds of things about static/sparks/flaming death... Not me. I'll be doing the same soon with my new workshop when built.
I think you did a fantastic job on your system. I'm looking to build a system myself, what I would like to learn more about is the low voltage switch. Are you going to ever do a video on how you did that? Or could you suggest a website or resource where I could learn what you did there?
Watch viewers comments #3 of mine for more info
Use a wet sponge and water based caulking to smooth out those caulking lines. Otherwise v nice
great video! how do you call that blue semi rigid pipe (10:08)??
loc line from lee valley
Super build. Well presented, too. Thank you for the good work example.
When I typed in DIY dust collection system, THIS is what I wanted to see.
Is it me or did you just build Rome in a day? Geez.
Have you noticed much dust settling on stuff outside where you vent the collector? I would love to vent my dust collector outside like this but I wouldn't want to cover my neighbors side yard with wood dust.
+ender52 havnt noticed any yet
Awesome vid/tutorial. No yammering like so many other vids. Just quickly showing the world how to do this yourself. I'm gonna have to make one of these myself. Thanks!
That was brilliant!! I'm in the process of building my dust extraction system. You have inspired me : )
Nice set up! I have a similar dust collection system in the works with a 2 hp blower and cyclone (under construction) in my shops attic. I'm also setting up a remote gate system that I bought (Long Ranger system from Penn State Industries). How is the suction on your 3-way split?
it works but could be better. I just bought a reverse impeller which that design over the forward facing impeller of the HF DC should provide more static suction. I will be installing it shortly and coming out with a video on the results. the new impeller is also an inch or so bigger so should be an improvement.