E-ride pro. Ill take a bit more power over some range. Its unfortunate that its not as efficient as expected though and that the speed tapers off at 30% battery.
A stock E Ride Pro bike stands out as the top choice in its category. that's why i sold my Talaria. Keep in mind, the Talaria featured in the video is equipped with an upgraded battery and controller, an enhancement that adds an additional cost of $3,000.
Don't forget the cold air is more dense air than warm air. This will affect battery economy. The Pro SS has a very large sprocket for performance and if sized compatibly to other bikes, the results would be different. Rider weight and tire pressure and wind direction wasn't mentioned either. The cold suit will also be a factor. I still want one of these.
Are u bringing up density as it would impact drag? Because air density is going to have a negligible impact on an ebike. Temperature is the killer, nothing to do with air density. ICE engines, on the other hand, love cold air, as it's higher oxygen density means 'more boom' on detonation cycle.
@@demwillams8898 My Surron performs noticeably worse in cold weather in terms of power, I've never tested range difference between a hot and cold day but it wouldnt surprise me if that was also affected.
@paulhope3401 right, worse because temp not because of air density. I was trying to understand why the post I replied to brought air density at all in regards to this platform.
@demwillams8898 I suppose colder air will be denser and likely affect drag CO a tad.. but I'd expect the effect to be miniscule and the far larger effect to come from reduced battery performance.
Full Throttle comparisons is the only way! I remember days when you look at the range specs of a prebuilt bike and you just divide it in half, at least, most cases cut the time by 3/4.
That stock BMS could be the kink in the equation. Most vendors don't 100% their items and drop it more so down to around 80% efficiency that way they can have more buyers and aren't narrowing their targets. Give it 6 mths, someone is going to crack that stock controller or just make a compatible one. Great videos steadily dudes!
I expect you lost 10% - 15% (5 to 7 miles) of range due to temperature. Once the battery was outside and running on the bike. It will cool down fast and capacity will be effected. Still a great test!! I run a 72V 38Ah e-bike in Canada. In the cooler months I get ~43miles & in the summer I get 49 miles of range. I drive it like its stolen!! At +5°C; the output voltage of the battery will drop faster but the motor & controller are more efficient. At +30°C; battery capacity will actually increase but the motor and controller are less efficient.
In addition, colder more dense air slows the bike down and winter gear also increases drag. I have an ebike and I see about a 25% reduction in range in the winter months with temps in the low 30s compared to runs on the same roads in the summer when temperatures are in the 80s
This is good to know to see about the maximum distance at a given speed or mode but having a course with different surfaces would be a more real world test. I know all this takes a lot of time and resources; thanks for being able to do these videos.
Thanks for the input. We will try to share our range at the end of our future trail/street rides to give people a better idea of real world conditions.
New rc LIPO batteries take 5 or so recharge cycles to reach battery full potential. And some racers do extremely high discharges to get a super charged battery with a potential shorter life span.(dangerous). I wonder if these batteries act the same? Also cycling 100% to 50% makes for a long lasting battery.
how can you compare a upgraded bike to a stock bike though? how much did all those upgrades cost to get that cycleworks comparable to the eride pro, kinda deceptive because cost vs cost + upgrades, out of the box the eride still beats all those bikes
Interesting test ! Two things that come to mind with any e-bikes . The quality of the batteries the manufacturer supplies you . The importance of a controller for longevity of battery life over time .
This is such a hard decison when it comes down to all the variables between all the bikes tho. Surron and Talaria all day cause they have the aftermarket cornered already, but then this bike comes with i wouldnt say halfway upgraded but its got the battery which is pretty significant.
Hey talaria boys! My grandma lives right by you guys! It’s super fun watching you guys go right past her house onto the trail over the gate. I don’t know if that makes any sence but one of these days I hope I meet you guys sometime! Also I just bought a Surron so maybe we can rip🤙
Needs a retest in better weather. 40 degree weather cuts my range by 50-25% depending on windchill and wind direction even with charging inside. Average speed decrease 3-5 mph in cold also. Cold played a much bigger part than you were expecting. Sport mode would also get way worse as cold weather increases battery resistance, increasing battery strain.
With the battery staying indoors and in the truck there is no way with that much mass that cold weather is going to affect it. It would have to be sitting for many hours for the internal temperature of the battery to be affected. And like the guy said, there is a small amount of warmth generated when discharging. I work for LG and have been working with lithium batteries for years. They have to be exposed to cold weather for 12+ hours before there is any degradation of capacity. Again, it is all about thermal mass.
@@Riceman-o1p Smarter people than me over on endless sphere, Have already done tests on batteries with monitoring equipment showing cold effects batteries absurdly fast. The cold weather, plus windchill create more resistance. That resistance means all batteries have less capacity in the cold.
Man i love my sting R. I do like some little things about the ss pro that i wish the sting R had. Like the screen, black handlegrips, riser handlebars and the black footpegs. But those are kinda just aesthetic things. Once i change those minor things on my sting r, its an easy pick for me. Talaria all day baby
Nice! did you know that if you buy a sting r now it has black grips and black pegs? Which is super cool. The Pro SS screen is nice though! and the riser is a little better but we still want it higher so most people would end up buying a 3 inch riser anyways. We still love our Talarias especially the gear box!
It's supposed to be able to go 90 miles if you hold at 15mph. Personally I would set custom modes to go 15, 25, 45, 60 mph so I could swap depending on my needs
Also don't forget that you were coasting behind a bike with the larger battery, that bike was taking much less wind resistance than the bike in front of it that also will give it more range.
FYI in New York State, also paying sales tax for eride pro SS. Although as of 10/2024 price is at 4300ish so all said and done with shipping and tax was roughly 4800
The CCW 72V in the video wasn't fully discharged! 67V is well above the 0% cuttoff which CCW lists as 55V or the normal 72v cutoff at 60V, if you trust charts online you had another 30% left!
So I understand what your saying and that's what would make sense but in reality thats not how the voltage works. In this test once we came to a stop and our battery was just sitting with the bike not pulling any power from it the voltage sagged back up to 67v which your right is about 30% if you are looking at a chart, however once you start riding again the voltage immediately sags down to about 10% on a voltage chart and if you pulled more throttle it would go all the way to 0. If you didn't know already most stock batteries show 0% when in reality if you look at their voltage its between 30-35% on a voltage chart because again, if you got back on the bike and the controller allowed you to do a hard pull you would sag all the way down to low voltage cut off. The Voltage is only consistant to 30% and then it drops like a rock! When looking at a voltage chart you really are only good to ride to around 30% unless you are taking it really easy and slow past that point and wont last long anyways. In reality 55% is not the cutoff, 60V is. 55 is like when the battery is so dead that the bms doesn't work and your battery is ruined.
@@Talariaboys I'm surprised the CCW battery sags that much tbh, just based off my own experience I can pretty reliably pull my batteries voltage down to the 60V mark if needed, while still maintaining a decent amount of power. For the slow speed range test you probably only pull a few amps, for the battery to sag 5-7v at that power is huge. I built my 72v battery and I get around 5v max of voltage sag at max power for my bike. If I was to hold 28mph I would maybe sag 1v. Could also be the cold weather kicking in though for sure, colder cells have higher internal resistance causing more voltage sag. Well 55v is the point the bms will cutout, its not good for overall battery health but doing it once isn't going to hurt the battery much less ruin it, the bms will work fine and do its job (unless the bms and or battery is bad quality which i don't think the CCW is). I would be curious what the Erides voltage was and what it was cutting out at. The speed slowdown when it was at low % probably helped it not sag below 60v and thus allowing the voltage to get closer to 0%
Great work, love your videos! Do you guys ever have any fire safety concerns with any of these batteries when it comes to charging or storage? Been hearing a lot about ebike battery fires and explosions. I been riding dirtbikes for years and want to pull the trigger on an mx4 but don't want the worry of burning down my house.
The stories you hear are typically from crappy Chinese batteries on cheap scooters and similar PEVs. Buy the Talaria, just don’t charge it below 40 (charge it inside) and never look back. I also say this coming from riding gas bikes for years
Maybe i missed it in the video, but you mentioned the Telaria has a 72V battery and controller? Did it come stock woth that? I wasnt aware they offered 72v models at that price point.
Another option? To maybe include in your test is to accelerate to your designated top speed hold for 15s let it coast decelerate to a designated lower speed hold for 15s accelerate to.... Repeat.. could give it a little bit better real world expectations?
Nice video but unfortunately its not even close to being a comparison to summer riding, the cold weather not only affects the battery but it restricts the motor untill it warms to optimal temp and a lot more, the clothing you wear is heavier, the air density is heavier producing more drag, you could lose as much as 20% range in the winter compared to summer, apart from that good video 👍
And sorry, not putting you down by any means, I wish I could afford one but it’ll never happen, just being honest but I’m happy for all you that can enjoy it, much love keep riding
Also what battery cells are in that eride pro ss.....that could be the deciding factor in all the "this should be betters". That would explain how they are able to compete only 400 bucks more when a talaria would need 2500 to make it to the 72volt....just use crappy cells and we can call ourselves a 72 volt.
Not to be that guy but... for comparison purposes wouldn't it be better to keep everything the same, for example do a sport mode test at 40 & eco at 25....obviously 55mph will drain faster than 45mph
How does the suspension feel compared to surron or talaria? I've seen people say there is no rear linkage but in the last vid I remember you guys said there was.
I have a Pro SS it does have a rear linkage, one similar to the Talaria xxx. The suspension feels really good off-roading but street riding the fork is a little bit too soft, atleast for my liking.
Yes it does have a linkage, it feels very similar to Surron or Talaria Sting, Feels very different to the xxx as that has no rear linkage. Thanks for watching!
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I wonder how much of a role drafting played in the upgraded battery getting significantly better distance than the SS. In cycling, drafting can result in 100-150w savings. In a test like this, an extra 100w of savings over that time period could definitely make a difference.
I still feel like Surron is the best because every company copies the Surron frame shape. Plus everybody is gonna upgrade parts so they’ll all be the same speed eventually 😂
Really looking the e-ride pro ss. Im looking to buy my first bike soon and i apologize if this is a dumb question but any information on how our if it's possible to make either the pro ss, talaria, or sur ron street legal? Maybe registering them as a moped?
That’s a really hard question to answer, some have been able to do it and others have tried and tried with no luck. It really depends on where you live and and if you can get luck and make it happen.
Hi Talaria Boys do you think it would be a good decision too get a torp tc1000 and other upgrades and put it on a Ultra Bee straight away out of the box or do you think i should wait until i get used to the power first and then put some upgrades on?
I would recommend just getting used to it stock, its an amazing bike and has lots of power. If you find yourself wanting more you can always upgrade down the road!
so you guys convinced me to buy an Eride and it came yesterday. Is there a way i can email you guys. I have a couple problems. I'm new to this ebike stuff
Talaria Sting R is the more heavy duty option of the smaller bikes that would support your weight just fine! Or if you want a bigger bike get a Surron UltraBee
curious to see you guys review the gearbox bikes like the timeET and the admit jet armor for both performance and range since gear box in theory would help range right?
Serious question for any who reads this. What emoto is the "right size" for a 6ft/185lb man with a 34" inseam to ride comfortably. I'm mainly interested in a supermoto type bike for street riding. I know this might be a little subjective, but I don't want to buy a bike that isn't right for me, body size wise.
You'll be most comfortable on an Ultra Bee with supermoto wheels/tires at your height. It comes with a 74v battery and produces 12kw stock. All other bikes are cheaper but quite a bit smaller. IIRC, Lance is about 6" as well, so you can see the smaller bike sizes in their videos.
Still happy with my Sting R but i know someone with a Pro SS coming soon, excited to compare the two. Amped bikes is $4500 OTD for CA folks trying to avoid tax.
I think the prices of anything with a battery is ridiculous, heck even regular mtb’s are selling for more than a car/truck and heck I even found a trailer and a house for literally 10,000 dollars cheaper than a good mtb by Trek smh, there’s definitely something really wrong with that and when I’ve asked why, people say it’s the wields 😑 that’s crap 💩. My brother has a Tesla too and just had to replace the battery and it was as much as my civic 😳 unreal, feels like a waste of money when gas vehicles of all kinds are way cheaper and last way way longer, but if they were a fair price I’d love one but until a fair price comes out…
Just got a MX4, went to test pressure in factory rear shock and forks and it doesn’t read pressure for either. I pumped them up to about 100PSI for both then as soon as a check it right after it reads 0 again and I don’t hear any air releasing. Both don’t really feel that soft though it’s strange. Any idea or ever have that happen?
You realize the rear shock is not air filled right? Its nitrogen filled and is not meant to be messed with..You are also not meant to add air into the factory fork.. Did you have to take off that weird lower leg cap with the 19mm socket? If so put it back together and leave it be.
@@Talariaboys yeah I have nitrogen to fill it. And yeah I did for the front and had the same issue. I read multiple threads of people filling them up because they shipped with low PSI and greatly improved the feel of the shocks.
Also don't forget that you were coasting behind a bike with the larger battery, that bike was taking much less wind resistance than the bike in front of it that also will give it more range. Also, what is the overall best bike to buy for 80% Street 20% off-road ? The new MX5, E ride pro SS or Surron light bee or X?
@@Talariaboys do you think you have it in you to tell me how you would put those in order please? Which one is best after all he put a hell of a lot of effort into bike reviews I would love to know
After watching this range test what bike would you pick? Talaria sting R or E-Ride Pro SS🤔
sting is king gear box is king
E-ride pro. Ill take a bit more power over some range. Its unfortunate that its not as efficient as expected though and that the speed tapers off at 30% battery.
E-ride pro ss all the way. I love the display that they use
A stock E Ride Pro bike stands out as the top choice in its category. that's why i sold my Talaria. Keep in mind, the Talaria featured in the video is equipped with an upgraded battery and controller, an enhancement that adds an additional cost of $3,000.
SS for sure.
Don't forget the cold air is more dense air than warm air. This will affect battery economy. The Pro SS has a very large sprocket for performance and if sized compatibly to other bikes, the results would be different. Rider weight and tire pressure and wind direction wasn't mentioned either. The cold suit will also be a factor.
I still want one of these.
Are u bringing up density as it would impact drag? Because air density is going to have a negligible impact on an ebike. Temperature is the killer, nothing to do with air density. ICE engines, on the other hand, love cold air, as it's higher oxygen density means 'more boom' on detonation cycle.
@@demwillams8898 My Surron performs noticeably worse in cold weather in terms of power, I've never tested range difference between a hot and cold day but it wouldnt surprise me if that was also affected.
@paulhope3401 right, worse because temp not because of air density. I was trying to understand why the post I replied to brought air density at all in regards to this platform.
@@demwillams8898 Yeah, I think he just got a bit confused.
@demwillams8898 I suppose colder air will be denser and likely affect drag CO a tad.. but I'd expect the effect to be miniscule and the far larger effect to come from reduced battery performance.
After experiencing the Pro-SS, I was so impressed that I immediately insisted on paying for it.
Hell yes! I love your range tests. I would love to see a Pro S vs. Pro SS full comparison.
Thanks!!!! Im sure that comparison will come at some point!
Absolutely I would love to see an actual full review of the Pro S model
Can you do falcon m by 79 bike
Go look at our video on the Falcon! It came out a couple weeks ago! Amazing bike
Im getting myself one of these. I really only care about top speed and the fact that it can go a top speed of 50 with 60 on turbo is nuts
Full Throttle comparisons is the only way! I remember days when you look at the range specs of a prebuilt bike and you just divide it in half, at least, most cases cut the time by 3/4.
Thanks for watching!
That stock BMS could be the kink in the equation. Most vendors don't 100% their items and drop it more so down to around 80% efficiency that way they can have more buyers and aren't narrowing their targets. Give it 6 mths, someone is going to crack that stock controller or just make a compatible one. Great videos steadily dudes!
I expect you lost 10% - 15% (5 to 7 miles) of range due to temperature.
Once the battery was outside and running on the bike. It will cool down fast and capacity will be effected. Still a great test!!
I run a 72V 38Ah e-bike in Canada. In the cooler months I get ~43miles & in the summer I get 49 miles of range. I drive it like its stolen!!
At +5°C; the output voltage of the battery will drop faster but the motor & controller are more efficient.
At +30°C; battery capacity will actually increase but the motor and controller are less efficient.
In addition, colder more dense air slows the bike down and winter gear also increases drag. I have an ebike and I see about a 25% reduction in range in the winter months with temps in the low 30s compared to runs on the same roads in the summer when temperatures are in the 80s
This is good to know to see about the maximum distance at a given speed or mode but having a course with different surfaces would be a more real world test. I know all this takes a lot of time and resources; thanks for being able to do these videos.
Thanks for the input. We will try to share our range at the end of our future trail/street rides to give people a better idea of real world conditions.
i appreciate the time you guys put into these range test .
Thanks!
@@Talariaboys
Have you ever considered running a decibel test? TB are the best.
Consistant tests among the ebikes. Keep up the good work.
Thank you!
New rc LIPO batteries take 5 or so recharge cycles to reach battery full potential. And some racers do extremely high discharges to get a super charged battery with a potential shorter life span.(dangerous). I wonder if these batteries act the same? Also cycling 100% to 50% makes for a long lasting battery.
Interesting. I wonder if this is it the case with the E ride pro
how can you compare a upgraded bike to a stock bike though? how much did all those upgrades cost to get that cycleworks comparable to the eride pro, kinda deceptive because cost vs cost + upgrades, out of the box the eride still beats all those bikes
We just did a test on that bike for fun, not a fair comparison obviously
Interesting test !
Two things that come to mind with any e-bikes .
The quality of the batteries the manufacturer supplies you .
The importance of a controller for longevity of battery life over time .
This is such a hard decison when it comes down to all the variables between all the bikes tho. Surron and Talaria all day cause they have the aftermarket cornered already, but then this bike comes with i wouldnt say halfway upgraded but its got the battery which is pretty significant.
Hey talaria boys! My grandma lives right by you guys! It’s super fun watching you guys go right past her house onto the trail over the gate. I don’t know if that makes any sence but one of these days I hope I meet you guys sometime! Also I just bought a Surron so maybe we can rip🤙
Needs a retest in better weather. 40 degree weather cuts my range by 50-25% depending on windchill and wind direction even with charging inside. Average speed decrease 3-5 mph in cold also. Cold played a much bigger part than you were expecting. Sport mode would also get way worse as cold weather increases battery resistance, increasing battery strain.
I don't notice any power difference on my ebike in winter compared to summer. It's a 1.5kw 52v bicycle.
With the battery staying indoors and in the truck there is no way with that much mass that cold weather is going to affect it. It would have to be sitting for many hours for the internal temperature of the battery to be affected. And like the guy said, there is a small amount of warmth generated when discharging. I work for LG and have been working with lithium batteries for years. They have to be exposed to cold weather for 12+ hours before there is any degradation of capacity. Again, it is all about thermal mass.
@@Riceman-o1p Smarter people than me over on endless sphere, Have already done tests on batteries with monitoring equipment showing cold effects batteries absurdly fast. The cold weather, plus windchill create more resistance. That resistance means all batteries have less capacity in the cold.
@@TinyTitian ok then, good point. Thanks
Man i love my sting R. I do like some little things about the ss pro that i wish the sting R had. Like the screen, black handlegrips, riser handlebars and the black footpegs. But those are kinda just aesthetic things. Once i change those minor things on my sting r, its an easy pick for me. Talaria all day baby
Nice! did you know that if you buy a sting r now it has black grips and black pegs? Which is super cool. The Pro SS screen is nice though! and the riser is a little better but we still want it higher so most people would end up buying a 3 inch riser anyways. We still love our Talarias especially the gear box!
Just got a sting R from Luna and it came with black grips but grey pegs still
@@vincerobleno shit fr? I just bought one last Saturday and it’s coming in wed !
@Talariaboys ready to see the 79 stats
The sting R has a screen for 140$ that looks identical to the pro ss
It's supposed to be able to go 90 miles if you hold at 15mph. Personally I would set custom modes to go 15, 25, 45, 60 mph so I could swap depending on my needs
I was considering buying a gas 250 4stroke but these things are really interesting
Also don't forget that you were coasting behind a bike with the larger battery, that bike was taking much less wind resistance than the bike in front of it that also will give it more range.
FYI in New York State, also paying sales tax for eride pro SS. Although as of 10/2024 price is at 4300ish so all said and done with shipping and tax was roughly 4800
Looks like i made a good decision buying the xxx, seems to be unbeatable for the price
Good real world test guys, I live in a colder climate so I've got a pretty compatible idea of what I'd get
Legit test! Getting ready to buy a bike. Based on your tests I’m leaning towards a talaria sting mx4.👍🇺🇸
Good choice!
I loved my mx4 best bike man I rode with my friends. It’s so fast!
The CCW 72V in the video wasn't fully discharged! 67V is well above the 0% cuttoff which CCW lists as 55V or the normal 72v cutoff at 60V, if you trust charts online you had another 30% left!
Do you have one of these batteries?
@@Talariaboys Unfortunately not! I just went on their site and that's what they list it as. I do have a Ebicycle with a 72v and I go to 60V / 0%
So I understand what your saying and that's what would make sense but in reality thats not how the voltage works. In this test once we came to a stop and our battery was just sitting with the bike not pulling any power from it the voltage sagged back up to 67v which your right is about 30% if you are looking at a chart, however once you start riding again the voltage immediately sags down to about 10% on a voltage chart and if you pulled more throttle it would go all the way to 0. If you didn't know already most stock batteries show 0% when in reality if you look at their voltage its between 30-35% on a voltage chart because again, if you got back on the bike and the controller allowed you to do a hard pull you would sag all the way down to low voltage cut off. The Voltage is only consistant to 30% and then it drops like a rock! When looking at a voltage chart you really are only good to ride to around 30% unless you are taking it really easy and slow past that point and wont last long anyways. In reality 55% is not the cutoff, 60V is. 55 is like when the battery is so dead that the bms doesn't work and your battery is ruined.
@@Talariaboys I'm surprised the CCW battery sags that much tbh, just based off my own experience I can pretty reliably pull my batteries voltage down to the 60V mark if needed, while still maintaining a decent amount of power. For the slow speed range test you probably only pull a few amps, for the battery to sag 5-7v at that power is huge. I built my 72v battery and I get around 5v max of voltage sag at max power for my bike. If I was to hold 28mph I would maybe sag 1v. Could also be the cold weather kicking in though for sure, colder cells have higher internal resistance causing more voltage sag. Well 55v is the point the bms will cutout, its not good for overall battery health but doing it once isn't going to hurt the battery much less ruin it, the bms will work fine and do its job (unless the bms and or battery is bad quality which i don't think the CCW is). I would be curious what the Erides voltage was and what it was cutting out at. The speed slowdown when it was at low % probably helped it not sag below 60v and thus allowing the voltage to get closer to 0%
Great work, love your videos! Do you guys ever have any fire safety concerns with any of these batteries when it comes to charging or storage? Been hearing a lot about ebike battery fires and explosions. I been riding dirtbikes for years and want to pull the trigger on an mx4 but don't want the worry of burning down my house.
The stories you hear are typically from crappy Chinese batteries on cheap scooters and similar PEVs. Buy the Talaria, just don’t charge it below 40 (charge it inside) and never look back. I also say this coming from riding gas bikes for years
We aren’t concerned but follow genera safety practices. It’s custom built homemade batteries you need to worry more about.
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Can you also do this test in the summer since batteries don't do as well in cold temps? Thanks
Potentially
To be super accurate, you’d need to run same tires/pressures and correct for wind.
You guys should test aftermarket controller on the E Ride. i know a ton of people are wondering if any of them work.
Controller connectors are not the same as available controllers do at the moment nothing is compatible.
Maybe i missed it in the video, but you mentioned the Telaria has a 72V battery and controller? Did it come stock woth that? I wasnt aware they offered 72v models at that price point.
No, all talarias come stock with 60v batteries and stock controllers
Are you guys ever going to do a new range test on the updated controller? 👀
Would be cool if there was an auxiliary plug for a spare battery you could attach to the "gas tank"
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Another option? To maybe include in your test is to accelerate to your designated top speed hold for 15s let it coast decelerate to a designated lower speed hold for 15s accelerate to.... Repeat.. could give it a little bit better real world expectations?
At this point we have done quite a few of these tests so we need to keep doing them the same🤷
Nice video but unfortunately its not even close to being a comparison to summer riding, the cold weather not only affects the battery but it restricts the motor untill it warms to optimal temp and a lot more, the clothing you wear is heavier, the air density is heavier producing more drag, you could lose as much as 20% range in the winter compared to summer, apart from that good video 👍
Thank youuuu. I asked for this in the last video it was like yall listen and answer.
Glad we could help out!
And sorry, not putting you down by any means, I wish I could afford one but it’ll never happen, just being honest but I’m happy for all you that can enjoy it, much love keep riding
No worries man! Stay tunned. We will be doing a giveaway in in the next few months you can enter for a chance to win.
Never say never
Great video Boys! Helps a newbie like me alot! Still so hard to pick one lol
Ya it’s getting hard to choose!!!
Talaria Sting R MX4 is best for the value. Throw a new controller on it and it’s just as good as the ss
@joncrellin7543 how much is that new controller though? Does it bring the price up to the SS? If so, you're better off getting the SS.
I love my eride pro ss. So fun with such a good power range.
Also what battery cells are in that eride pro ss.....that could be the deciding factor in all the "this should be betters". That would explain how they are able to compete only 400 bucks more when a talaria would need 2500 to make it to the 72volt....just use crappy cells and we can call ourselves a 72 volt.
You guys are like TFL Truck, but for a different platform. I enjoy your content even though I don't own one myself.
Thanks for watching!
Not to be that guy but... for comparison purposes wouldn't it be better to keep everything the same, for example do a sport mode test at 40 & eco at 25....obviously 55mph will drain faster than 45mph
We do our best to keep the range tests as controlled as possible. We held a constant speed of 50 mph which is almost the same as the sting R.
You guys should also put down the average speed in the spreadsheet too for both sport and eco mode.
👍 good idea
It's time for the falcon range test!! Let's see it!!! Available in 3 colors, black. Brown, and silver$$$$$
We will do it soon! I think it will do very good!
Awesome video! Any plans to do a range test on the 79 Bike?
Yes coming soon
Sweet range test! How does the pro ss stock seat feel?
It feels good, better than most stock seats
@@Talariaboys right on! Thanks 🫡
Great analysis! Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
How does the suspension feel compared to surron or talaria? I've seen people say there is no rear linkage but in the last vid I remember you guys said there was.
I have a Pro SS it does have a rear linkage, one similar to the Talaria xxx. The suspension feels really good off-roading but street riding the fork is a little bit too soft, atleast for my liking.
Yes it does have a linkage, it feels very similar to Surron or Talaria Sting, Feels very different to the xxx as that has no rear linkage. Thanks for watching!
@@magnuss6147the XXX does not have a rear linkage
What a great road for testing! Great video!
im looking to trade my 2013 VW Jetta titled runs and drives but Salvage titled but still runs and drives just needs hood and bumper and radiator protection bar! and thass it !only 72k miles on it (transmission and engine perfect condition) both 72k miles on it never been upgraded and has been driven and kept up with maintenance by my parents since they got it new with 250 miles on it!
I wonder how much of a role drafting played in the upgraded battery getting significantly better distance than the SS. In cycling, drafting can result in 100-150w savings. In a test like this, an extra 100w of savings over that time period could definitely make a difference.
I can’t imagine it played a big role in the extended range. Reed was often over 100 feet behind Lance.
@@Talariaboys yeah definitely not making at difference at that distance. 👌🏽
i actually sent my controller back to e ride to tune out the huge battery drop at 30%.
Nice!
they can tune that out? interesting. Mine is supposed to get shipped on the 10th. I wonder if they could tune mine before sending it
Heading out to Antelope Island
Beautiful ride
And helpful video
Thanks
Very cool bikes makes me want to get my bike out n go for a ride thanks for sharing it bro ride safe
Hey love the videos. Just wondering if you guys planned on doing a video on the talaria xxx 72volt battery that came out on chi batterys?
Yea we will 🤫
FINALLY !!!! Thanks man
We got you
Let’s go babyyyy. Come down to Florida and do the 7mile bridge to the keys!!
That would be sick!! Good to see you on our YT brother
I still feel like Surron is the best because every company copies the Surron frame shape. Plus everybody is gonna upgrade parts so they’ll all be the same speed eventually 😂
Surron definitely made a new class of bikes that other companies use for inspiration! Haha
What was the temperature of the range test with the others bikes? Warmer? I would expect much lower performance with lower temps so to be expected imo
Yes this test was very cold. We tested again in a recent video and it did much better in warm weather
i just installed the 250mm brake rotors on mine
Nice!
Thanks for this video. Everything you do is awesome!
Thanks for watching
Did I miss the part about the range stat for the 72v Talaria in sport mode? I caught the eco mode range stats of the Talaria, but not sport mode.
We didn’t run a sport mode test on that setup sorry.
Do you know if the talaria super Moto wheel set fit on the Eride pro SS?
We will know soon! Video coming as well.
Thank you can you also see what parts of a Surron and Talaria mx4 parts can fit on the Eride pro. Thank you.
Yes, that will all be in the next video!
Really looking the e-ride pro ss. Im looking to buy my first bike soon and i apologize if this is a dumb question but any information on how our if it's possible to make either the pro ss, talaria, or sur ron street legal? Maybe registering them as a moped?
That’s a really hard question to answer, some have been able to do it and others have tried and tried with no luck. It really depends on where you live and and if you can get luck and make it happen.
You should’ve tried the RoadRunner Pro! Bike/scooter I love
We will soon!
May I ask what is your discount code for the falcon m and where to buy ?
What a beautiful test track!
So what is the best bang for the buck looking buy one but know nothing about them thanks jim
Talaria Sting R is best bang for buck and easy to get. Lots of upgrades available as well. We purchase online from Luna Cycle in california.
The Talaria this time was upgraded so would be interesting to see range to price?!
Good idea
Hi Talaria Boys do you think it would be a good decision too get a torp tc1000 and other upgrades and put it on a Ultra Bee straight away out of the box or do you think i should wait until i get used to the power first and then put some upgrades on?
I would recommend just getting used to it stock, its an amazing bike and has lots of power. If you find yourself wanting more you can always upgrade down the road!
so you guys convinced me to buy an Eride and it came yesterday. Is there a way i can email you guys. I have a couple problems. I'm new to this ebike stuff
Support@thelectricmoto.com
Which bike would you recommend for a bigger guy? I’m 6’2” and 225lbs. Which would be the comfiest, has the biggest seat, etc..
Talaria Sting R is the more heavy duty option of the smaller bikes that would support your weight just fine! Or if you want a bigger bike get a Surron UltraBee
Could you guys do a range test on the pro s ?
If you was picking a e bike to get what would you pick I'm leaning to the ss pro but you have rode them all curious on your opinion
They are all so good now! E-ride is pretty sweet though
When summer hit you mind doin summer and winder comparison
Potentially
curious to see you guys review the gearbox bikes like the timeET and the admit jet armor for both performance and range since gear box in theory would help range right?
Maybe we can review those in the future!
How do I know where these are street legal or how to make them street legal? I want one and would like to keep my driver's license. 😉👍
I think you can title them and register with the dmv
most places I go are like 20 30 minute rides tops
Keep up the great work guys great vid.
Thanks!
Cold temperatures will affect your range unless you're using my LTO batteries
The pro ss looks bigger and higher. Will increase drag allot
That's the truth! Thanks for the support!
Great test you keep comparing it to that Tellaria but doesn't that add another 3500 to the cost of the bike
What adds $3500?
Another nice video 👍
Thanks again!
I'm so pissed off they don't deliver to nz.
Bummer
Serious question for any who reads this.
What emoto is the "right size" for a 6ft/185lb man with a 34" inseam to ride comfortably. I'm mainly interested in a supermoto type bike for street riding.
I know this might be a little subjective, but I don't want to buy a bike that isn't right for me, body size wise.
You'll be most comfortable on an Ultra Bee with supermoto wheels/tires at your height. It comes with a 74v battery and produces 12kw stock. All other bikes are cheaper but quite a bit smaller. IIRC, Lance is about 6" as well, so you can see the smaller bike sizes in their videos.
@@ChargedCycleWorks Thank you.
I fixed the problem, moved out of california.
W move
are you ever gonna do a range test on the falcon 79 bike?
Yes very soon.
How do your modded sting R’s compare to the eride pro SS? More power and range or less?
Our modded Talarias have a lot more power and range than the pro ss
Still happy with my Sting R but i know someone with a Pro SS coming soon, excited to compare the two.
Amped bikes is $4500 OTD for CA folks trying to avoid tax.
Can you take the Talarias out on 5 Miles of Hell? Looks like fun and challenging!
We would love to do that this year!
How tall are you guys and how much do you weigh? I’m 6’3 240lbs. Would you recommend it?
I’m 6’3 as well but around 185lbs you will fit the bike just fine but the suspension may be quite soft for you.
I think the prices of anything with a battery is ridiculous, heck even regular mtb’s are selling for more than a car/truck and heck I even found a trailer and a house for literally 10,000 dollars cheaper than a good mtb by Trek smh, there’s definitely something really wrong with that and when I’ve asked why, people say it’s the wields 😑 that’s crap 💩. My brother has a Tesla too and just had to replace the battery and it was as much as my civic 😳 unreal, feels like a waste of money when gas vehicles of all kinds are way cheaper and last way way longer, but if they were a fair price I’d love one but until a fair price comes out…
Thanks bud ! 😂 didn’t know that
U know if u wanna go farther u need to put street tires on them not off road dirt tires?
This is a stock bike range test. We test the bikes exactly as they would come from factory.
I 'm glad I live near China, no tax, no shipping fees...
just drag it across the border?
I’m new here but what about the surron?
We have not had the opportunity to do this range test on a Surron. It’s something we need to do!
Just got a MX4, went to test pressure in factory rear shock and forks and it doesn’t read pressure for either. I pumped them up to about 100PSI for both then as soon as a check it right after it reads 0 again and I don’t hear any air releasing. Both don’t really feel that soft though it’s strange. Any idea or ever have that happen?
You realize the rear shock is not air filled right? Its nitrogen filled and is not meant to be messed with..You are also not meant to add air into the factory fork.. Did you have to take off that weird lower leg cap with the 19mm socket? If so put it back together and leave it be.
@@Talariaboys yeah I have nitrogen to fill it. And yeah I did for the front and had the same issue. I read multiple threads of people filling them up because they shipped with low PSI and greatly improved the feel of the shocks.
I would have bet you guys did another pizza slice handoff while riding
Haha we should have again!
Also don't forget that you were coasting behind a bike with the larger battery, that bike was taking much less wind resistance than the bike in front of it that also will give it more range.
Also, what is the overall best bike to buy for 80% Street 20% off-road ?
The new MX5, E ride pro SS or Surron light bee or X?
We were far enough apart to have zero drafting. The mx5 or e ride pro would be best for what you want
@@Talariaboys do you think you have it in you to tell me how you would put those in order please? Which one is best after all he put a hell of a lot of effort into bike reviews I would love to know