Police Brutality & Black Lives Matter - Debate with Twitter User

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  • @SDREHXC
    @SDREHXC 6 років тому +866

    When this guy says he doesn't read breitbart, I believe him wholeheartedly. It was so easy for him to admit because he doesn't read anything at all.

    • @daveruda
      @daveruda 6 років тому +66

      He graduated youtube university...all rightwing moron channels.

    • @MomsterGirl
      @MomsterGirl 6 років тому +32

      To be fair reading nothing is better than reading Breitbart.

    • @kmasse81
      @kmasse81 5 років тому +12

      I wouldn't be surprised if he listens to Sargon of Akkad. Some of the things he said I've heard Sargon say exactly.

    • @frechjo
      @frechjo 5 років тому +12

      Do memes with many letters count as reading?

    • @robmarcusnicholson8210
      @robmarcusnicholson8210 5 років тому +3

      reading does not make you intelligent
      it depends on the content of what is being read
      one could be smarter watching youtube videos than someone that reads a lot of bullshit

  • @lostprophet888
    @lostprophet888 6 років тому +1073

    I have taken a long look at myself in reflection after this debate. If this drooling Neanderthal can get a masters.. What the hell am I doing with my life?

    • @frbe0101
      @frbe0101 6 років тому +97

      A masters in business.

    • @brideut
      @brideut 6 років тому +143

      PersonaNonGrata Don't compare that dumbass to Neanderthals. The Neanderthals were quite smart, dude.

    • @15thobserver
      @15thobserver 6 років тому +70

      not to join the debate in any kind of way... but getting a degree in anything other than medicine, law, or the field of science has nothing to do with difficulty of learning, more of a the willingness to put in the time.
      So you are just choosing not to get a masters in a world where you can have pennies to your name but be able to get degrees from online colleges so you can still have a job. basically if you want a degree in something but don't have it, what you are doing with your life is "everything else" lmao.

    • @psychicbot9748
      @psychicbot9748 6 років тому +28

      PersonaNonGrata At the time of this "debate" he was an undergrad student (he clarified that, when Destiny asked him about it). So he isn't a master.

    • @KuroKarma
      @KuroKarma 6 років тому +2

      I'm doing masters myself... most of my fellow students (myself included) are drooling neanderthals..... :(

  • @Katzunowo
    @Katzunowo 6 років тому +879

    "Let’s talk about you. Why are you the way you are?" I laughed out loud omg😂😂😂

    • @kingofthebis1068
      @kingofthebis1068 6 років тому +11

      Katzun
      An animator!

    • @AlastairJohnRoss
      @AlastairJohnRoss 6 років тому +24

      @1:26:40

    • @veoh112
      @veoh112 5 років тому +22

      These live debates are literal comedy shows

    • @mario167100
      @mario167100 5 років тому +7

      You watch destiny? Damn, the world is a small place

    • @gg-pe9tb
      @gg-pe9tb 5 років тому

      I have just come from everest

  • @awesomepossum336
    @awesomepossum336 6 років тому +1774

    Lord, give me the confidence of a mediocre 23-year-old dude!

    • @ravivdlin9412
      @ravivdlin9412 6 років тому +139

      He's just aggressively average. I knew so man guys who leaned right with the same type of thinking.

    • @coldwind1791
      @coldwind1791 6 років тому +71

      Krisi Naneva
      He’s so sure of himself it’s scary.

    • @Jebusjoose
      @Jebusjoose 6 років тому +60

      White* dude

    • @jakubmike5657
      @jakubmike5657 6 років тому +69

      God I was never so sure of anything as he is. I mean if actual smart people had 25% of his confidence... star trek would be documentary by now.

    • @MrKosobi
      @MrKosobi 5 років тому +31

      @@jakubmike5657 Part of being a smart persos is being humble and knowing your limitations. Albert Einstein, arguably one of the smartest people who have ever lived, considered himself to be rather mediocre. It's the retards who are full of themselves.

  • @aivanm.vaughn1576
    @aivanm.vaughn1576 6 років тому +350

    A brave little soldier this kid is.
    He's lost the battle, and keeps losing, yet keeps on fighting. Smh

    • @hopedream11
      @hopedream11 5 років тому +11

      he'd fit well with the white nationalist cause, wouldn't he?

    • @sleepyfriendstm
      @sleepyfriendstm 4 роки тому +3

      He was completely owned 15 mins in, but he proceeded...lol

    • @perpetual_suffering1458
      @perpetual_suffering1458 3 роки тому

      @@sleepyfriendstm despite him being an edgy clown gotta respect that he fought a dead battle to the bitter end

    • @blazefa.
      @blazefa. 3 роки тому

      @@hopedream11 cringe. He has dumb takes, must be a white nationalist

    • @wesleybailey1607
      @wesleybailey1607 2 роки тому

      Who

  • @TylerJBrown192
    @TylerJBrown192 6 років тому +809

    43:19 "You baited me into talking about this and saying these things!"
    We in the Soyboy Community call that the "JonTron Defense"

    • @emmagoldman5382
      @emmagoldman5382 6 років тому +75

      Sir Dankistan Soy Boys™ are objectively more attractive than Alphas Uncucked™

    • @RihannaIsIluminati
      @RihannaIsIluminati 6 років тому +33

      Sir Dankistan lol, you know more about attractive men than a woman? Are you straight?

    • @jeffii9890
      @jeffii9890 6 років тому +20

      Sir Dankistan "Does your wife's boyfriend Tyrone the burly blackman have a hell of a punch?" Why are you so concerned with someone else's sex life?

    • @jeffii9890
      @jeffii9890 6 років тому +9

      Sir Dankistan ditto fella

    • @jeffii9890
      @jeffii9890 6 років тому +10

      Sir Dankistan Thanks for the compliment

  • @WallerSon
    @WallerSon 5 років тому +430

    "Why do you feel so strongly about things that you're so clueless about?"
    *siiiigh....
    *shuffling sounds
    *fart noises
    1:27:19

  • @Ravano909
    @Ravano909 6 років тому +162

    this business undergrad kid has been brainwashed by youtube videos

    • @Ravano909
      @Ravano909 6 років тому +14

      wow around 1 hour they get so frustrated and make shit arguments that end up working against themselves

    • @bimbowithadegree420
      @bimbowithadegree420 4 роки тому +1

      Clearly

  • @brianogle1119
    @brianogle1119 4 роки тому +399

    It’s crazy how relevant this is in 2020

    • @hornfan722
      @hornfan722 4 роки тому +3

      I know right!

    • @ozkan576
      @ozkan576 4 роки тому +4

      @Apollo Grey Change won't happen, not like this.
      Black lives matter, but Black Lives Matter is a shitty movement. I'd like to hear about BLM outside of election years too, maybe that would be a start. It's the same every 4 years and then people are quiet AF for 3 years.

    • @natra361
      @natra361 4 роки тому +3

      Right! I only noticed 10min in that this is 2 years old.

    • @55blackty
      @55blackty 4 роки тому +19

      Ozkan There have been a BLM protest or political demonstration and push for better legislation since its inception

    • @trentgarton639
      @trentgarton639 4 роки тому +2

      I got to ~20 minutes then looked at the comments saw this and only then realized that this wasn’t posted recently

  • @TheSkeptiKit
    @TheSkeptiKit 6 років тому +150

    > goes on a stream in front of thousands
    > "yeah, I really haven't researched my positions"
    ??? why bother listening to you, then ???

    • @lemonaidebey6190
      @lemonaidebey6190 6 років тому +28

      TheSkeptiKit most "anti sjws" are like that. Eventually they use the "Idk or don't care about this topic anyway" like cowards they are

    • @Rozmic
      @Rozmic 6 років тому

      Why did DesTINY have him on then? One could almost suppose he likes having on amateurs to make himself look better.

    • @SettlingTape33
      @SettlingTape33 6 років тому +13

      im_just_expressing_my_opinion.jpg

    • @MS-pd7fc
      @MS-pd7fc 6 років тому +12

      Rozmic because another one of their tactic is that everyone who disagrees with him constantly dodges debate. So destiny debates with them, only to find out these dudes have no actual argument

    • @psychopax2685
      @psychopax2685 5 років тому

      Also, he says how Destiny baited him to argue when he jumped into the discussion.

  • @diversitydan235
    @diversitydan235 6 років тому +487

    My god, I am tired of this "Fake News" meme. It basically breaks down to " I disagree, so it is fake", with people only accepting articles from Fox News or Brightbart or some shit.

    • @donovanofarrell3986
      @donovanofarrell3986 6 років тому +22

      >"Brightbart"
      kek

    • @cman8464
      @cman8464 6 років тому +3

      Or it is more to do with the mainstream media being riddled with fake news?

    • @Avenger222
      @Avenger222 6 років тому +17

      +C Man riddled? Do you have proof to back that up? I'm only aware of a couple examples and they either get retracted or they immediately get called out by other mainstream media.
      Do you have any examples that weren't retracted or called out by the mainstream media?

    • @cman8464
      @cman8464 6 років тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/REPFH2V_EYo/v-deo.html

    • @Avenger222
      @Avenger222 6 років тому +32

      +C Man 1) "The Rise of the Alt-Right"
      He claims that there's only "a few dozen" members of the alt-right.
      Stormfront (100% can be classified as alt-right, under Spencer's definition) has 208,500 unique visitors in a month. This is *well* over "a few dozen".
      *First claim: False.*
      2) "CNN - Edited out the 'burn their shit instead'"
      This was true, but I asked for instances where a) they weren't retracted and b) were not called out by the mainstream media.
      They did both.
      Plus editing out footage where a girl incites violence is hardly "fake news", it's just biased and not encouraging violence.
      *Second Claim: Retracted and called out by the mainstream media.*
      3) "Black guy gets shot by cop for pulling out a weapon"
      How is this fake?
      "The man shot dead by cops in Charlotte was in possession of a gun he had bought from a burglar who stole it during a residential burglary, according to a report."
      "“Due to the combination of illegal drugs and the gun Mr. Scott had in his possession, officers decided to take enforcement action for public safety concerns,” the release continued. “Officers departed the immediate area to outfit themselves with marked duty vests and equipment that would clearly identify them as police officers.”
      Hello?? None of this was fake.
      *Third Claim: False*
      4) Media downplaying John Podesta and "devil worship"
      I haven't looked into this past a few /pol/ posts and the_donald. I'm not aware of any solid evidence. If you have it, I'd love to see it.
      As far as I'm concerned, even _if_ they're "devil worshipers" who's business is it what an adult does on their own free time?
      Downplaying =/= Fake.
      *Fourth Claim: False*
      5) Media reported on a gay pastor making an anti-gay cake. The next clip is the guy literally saying that the media found out it was fake and then immediately reported on it.
      Hello?? How is this fake?
      The dude lied and the media found out and then reported on it.
      *Fifth Claim: He literally proves that the mainstream media has journalistic integrity in the same 10 seconds.*
      This dude has a *serious* case of cognitive bias. This is a huge waste of time.

  • @somniatic
    @somniatic 6 років тому +836

    This kid is proof that getting a degree doesn't guarantee intelligence. Oof.

    • @FlunderingChipper
      @FlunderingChipper 6 років тому +53

      It's business degrees. I've never encountered people like this in any other faculty.

    • @fehwerofw
      @fehwerofw 6 років тому +45

      I thought it was pretty funny how he overinflated his credentials by claiming he's "pursuing" his Masters in International Business but he's still an undergrad.

    • @NoUseForAName06
      @NoUseForAName06 6 років тому +45

      Can confirm. Have a degree, am idiot

    • @CPalanysamy
      @CPalanysamy 6 років тому +5

      If you want to be a fair, wise man you need to go beyond academic knowledge and introspect incessantly about any given topic.

    • @somniatic
      @somniatic 6 років тому +9

      Carl Erichsen YES! Exactly! My old ass only got an AS, but I'm hoping to go back for my BA. If this kid was accepted, then I totally can make it.

  • @awoofer
    @awoofer 6 років тому +263

    He's literally me at my 14 y/o "edgy" phase 5 years ago

    • @elliotterodriguez
      @elliotterodriguez 5 років тому +4

      Yup! 😔

    • @thabic2019
      @thabic2019 5 років тому +29

      Let's just be glad we grew out of it

    • @theduke6174
      @theduke6174 5 років тому +9

      I feared that white people of our generation would judge me because I'm black like he does, but I'm glad to hear it's a "phase" and not an Epidemic. :)

    • @boyboy-ru3gx
      @boyboy-ru3gx 5 років тому +12

      Where was destiny when i was in that phase

    • @dias8726
      @dias8726 5 років тому

      YESSSSS

  • @Clueman778
    @Clueman778 6 років тому +68

    It is insane to me that anyone could be so confident about their opinions while simultaneously being so ridiculously uninformed about the facts surrounding them. For fucks sake, this guy couldn’t even properly define gender dysphoria and he had already constructed an entire point of view on transgender people without knowing even the most basic information about gender. To quote Destiny himself, “We live in a post-fact world, my dude. (slurps)”

    • @Andrew-fi1sd
      @Andrew-fi1sd 6 років тому +18

      When he defined what being transgender is that's when you could tell he had no clue was he was talking about.

  • @YouNeverKnowX3
    @YouNeverKnowX3 6 років тому +148

    All the awkward silences

    • @Reajjy
      @Reajjy 5 років тому +10

      Those were the best parts :p

    • @phanatic215
      @phanatic215 3 роки тому +2

      And the forced laughs when he has no response.

  • @Amonfobious
    @Amonfobious 6 років тому +259

    People like this dude spend a lot of time listening to people they deem smart talking about various topics and then end up projecting their intelligence onto themselves. This causes them to feel very sure in their positions and gives them a false idea of how smart they are. They don't challenge their opinions and when they're met with someone who does they have to feign incredulity or act dishonest because they feel their intelligence is threatened. Shaun talks about his experience with this a little bit in his last video (White men/2018 plans).

    • @SettlingTape33
      @SettlingTape33 6 років тому +21

      Ya fr. I've been thinking about this a lot recently.
      I think this is a big reason why it's so hard to move someone from a position because they admire and trust the person they acquired that position from. To get them to say change their position would require them to deal with the cognitive dissonance of looking up to someone who they respect for their intellect, and acknowledging that their idol was wrong about whatever position they endorsed.

    • @TheBrownestFalcon
      @TheBrownestFalcon 6 років тому +12

      That also likely ties into why people have a hard time accepting X person committed sexual assault. If we like a person for certain qualities/roles they've played and it turns out "hey this person has done bad things" then it can be uncomfortable to acknowledge that.

    • @vagrant9414
      @vagrant9414 6 років тому +5

      It happens to all humans. Just a little bit more to reactionaries.
      People tend to stick to ideals more and more as time passes if their ideals are not challenged. If you do not come in contact with the other side it just blinds you more. This is why Richard Spencer supporters will go out of their way to make up stuff while the conversation takes place and claim that they are facts.
      They make claims about biases and indoctrination by the "left" (which in reality is basically just actual centrist like destiny) while they are the most biased and blindfolded people on the political scene

    • @lucadellasciucca967
      @lucadellasciucca967 5 років тому +2

      actually the only one being dishonest is destiny. The kid is simply ignorant. still right on many of his points even if he's not able to argue them. While destiny is saying he's wrong! which he's not!!
      Btw you are doing the same thing you are accusing the kid in the video of doing, you are listening to destiny and getting opinions out of them! wanna try to debate me on the pronouns law in Canada? See how destiny opinion is gonna save you there! or choose any other topic you think destiny is right about in this video, other then gender is distinct from sex by being a social construction, i agree with that, but i don t think i agree on anything else so go ahead and pick a topic!

    • @kingjosiahiv4070
      @kingjosiahiv4070 5 років тому

      DUDE the same applies to you. You can watch destiny debating, and the same thing can happen, for both left and right

  • @MediumChungus223
    @MediumChungus223 6 років тому +82

    Good to see that Destiny isn't above still debating the twitter proto-racists. These people need to be called out often because they are the primary targets for more extreme people.

  • @jodiethemathgenius9204
    @jodiethemathgenius9204 6 років тому +268

    omg he doesn't even know what being transgender is

    • @coldwind1791
      @coldwind1791 6 років тому +24

      Jodie themathgenius
      It’s scary how stupid he is. The fucked up thing is that he believes he is right.

    • @pepesilvia5936
      @pepesilvia5936 5 років тому

      @@dudeman7738 why?

    • @lucadellasciucca967
      @lucadellasciucca967 5 років тому +1

      he actually does!! the first time he's asked what is gender-dismorfia and transgender he answers that the first one is when you are mentally convinced of being of another sex (correct) and that transgender is dressing as another gender (not corresponding to your biological sex)(correct again!) This is one of the many examples where destiny successfully tricked you into thinking that he's right and his opponent is wrong, by simply reading definitions that contain completely different words from the ones used by the kid. What you don t see is that they pretty much mean the same thing, or that wouldn t make an honest person say that the kid has no clue of what he s talking about! In fact, if anything, it s possible that destiny didn t know the distinction (or that he didn t undertand the definitions the kid gave) and by looking at the definitions and not seeing a single word the kid used he just assumed (or more likely saw the opportunity of taking advantage of that) that the kid had no idea of what he was talking about without realizing that what the kid said meant pretty much the same thing as the definitions, arguably in a less accurate manner.

    • @bleach00101
      @bleach00101 5 років тому +13

      Luke8FPS I’ve never heard the sentence “used completely different words from the ones used by the kid” to describe saying the same thing. The problem with the kids definition is that it wasn’t even close to accurate. Having some of the right terms in a word salad doesn’t mean you accurately defined a term. The kid defined cross-dressing instead of transgender. Those are distinctly two different terms and you don’t get brownie points for having a vague idea that transgender has something to do with gender. The reason you can assume the kid had no idea is that he came up with his definitions based off context clues in the conversation that was meant to teach a 6 yr old what gender expression is using clothes as daily examples. It’s way too charitable to assume that he was close enough to what he should have said.

    • @lucadellasciucca967
      @lucadellasciucca967 5 років тому +1

      @@bleach00101 he had the right idea and was smashed by destiny only because he read the definition on wikipedia. The kid knew the difference more or less.

  • @MAXIMUMv
    @MAXIMUMv 6 років тому +257

    Would you go up to a child who has adopted parents and say to them "I'm not going to call them your parents because biologically they aren't... facts dont care about your feelings etc" .... Why is it so hard to acknowledge someone's pronouns?

    • @paulkerrigan9857
      @paulkerrigan9857 6 років тому +94

      Because these people have never been asked to change their behaviour before, and the very idea scares them to death. They're all entitled as fuck. They conflate ignorance on a topic for scientific consensus; "I've never thought about this thing that seems obvious, so it must be obvious and all science agrees with me!"
      It shows you how HARD it's been to convince people of basic scientific facts throughout the ages, and why this whole process takes centuries. The human mind is wired against all reason.

    • @eminemilly
      @eminemilly 6 років тому +2

      Who cares. The people who don't care to use them shouldn't matter

    • @kuirkyy
      @kuirkyy 6 років тому +1

      Who's ignorant and being a douche bag does matter.

    • @CommanderTavos99
      @CommanderTavos99 6 років тому +11

      Because its bullshit and im not making up a fantasy world cause they are getting their feelings hurt then. Ofc im not going to that child randomly and confronts it with that. But ofc it HAS to know that these are not its real parents. Why lying to everybody when u actually should open their eyes with truth and facts. Live isnt that eZ buddy that we can all live in a fairy tale world.

    • @wegood563
      @wegood563 6 років тому +6

      MAXIMUM1988 v they are still their parents, regardless of being related to them or not. They are their adoptive parents

  • @matthall7359
    @matthall7359 5 років тому +41

    Fucking love how this dude laugh/exhales every time he has no argument it's a really great tell

  • @quickkill2021
    @quickkill2021 6 років тому +90

    Destiny the issue is that these people have transformed their opinions into beliefs. A belief does not need to be rooted in facts. They hold these beliefs only because they are part of a narrative of a certain political team. It's whatever the team thinks goes.

    • @lucadellasciucca967
      @lucadellasciucca967 5 років тому +1

      not really! what you are describing is what destiny does, a well educated and informed person who manipulates the information they got to support their agenda. The kid was just ignorant about most things and couldn t support his points even tho he was right about most of them.

    • @SnookerQtr
      @SnookerQtr 5 років тому +6

      @Stephen Weir 5 months later..... We are still waiting for the cold hard facts

    • @perpetual_suffering1458
      @perpetual_suffering1458 3 роки тому

      @@SnookerQtr it's now been 3 years, it must be taking a while for him to find these facts

    • @synlion
      @synlion 2 роки тому +1

      @@lucadellasciucca967 3 years later, do you still stand by this comment?

  • @NoUseForAName06
    @NoUseForAName06 6 років тому +81

    How the fuck do people go around accuing others of only acting based on their feeling and then fail to cite a SINGLE fucking source for their own assumptions? It's absolutely mind boggeling.

    • @kubeface115
      @kubeface115 6 років тому +9

      Because these are true manly common sense FACTS, my friend. Only nerds need data or sources to prove common sense facts.

    • @XNotsoSacredx
      @XNotsoSacredx 6 років тому +2

      You know that it’s impossible for me to read this without destiny’s voice in my head

    • @gotrac8121
      @gotrac8121 6 років тому

      Kubeface "only nerds need facts to back up their opinion"
      Fucking numbnutts.

    • @kubeface115
      @kubeface115 6 років тому

      I'm gonna need a source on that buddy.

    • @gotrac8121
      @gotrac8121 6 років тому

      Kubeface your literal og statement.
      Thanks for playing.

  • @cloverjoker
    @cloverjoker 6 років тому +56

    The dude destiny is debating is literally arguing topics he doesn't understand and pointing to data he doesn't even know exists.

    • @angelgodplace
      @angelgodplace 4 роки тому +2

      @thievesarmynever seen a graph that plots knowledge vs confidence?
      0 knowledge is 0 confidence, 25% knowledge is 90% confidence, 50% knowledge is 30% confidence, 75% knowledge is 50% confidence. Something like that

  • @blueststar4u
    @blueststar4u 6 років тому +68

    I was hoping for more from guest, because Destiny really stumped him a handful of times.
    This debate brings up a good point. People need to find out where their beliefs come from before they stand up on stage and argue in favor of them.
    In this case, Destiny was the clear winner.
    Destiny needs a greater challenger in these topics.

    • @makidowen
      @makidowen 6 років тому

      bluestar4u this topic literally comes up every video. He doesn't hand pick people to argue with based on how smart they seem but I still hear this all the time. Makes literally no sense.

    • @austinedwards6716
      @austinedwards6716 6 років тому +1

      bluestar4u he always picks the low fruit have him debate Steven crowder or ben shapiro it would be no contest

    • @justingutierrez233
      @justingutierrez233 6 років тому +9

      Austin Edwards oh please Crowder is an intellectual lightweight and Shapiro is marginally more intelligent but just as dishonest

    • @blueststar4u
      @blueststar4u 6 років тому +5

      I think basic minded people get confidence and intelligence confused.
      Sure, i'll say that Crowder and Shapiro sound intelligent, but to anyone with greater understanding of hyperbole and false equivalencies, know the Crowders and Shapiros of the world prey on weak minded.
      This understanding brings us to the fork in the road where we can either assume, that Crowpiros are knowingly lying, or are smart enough to regurgitate "data" while getting it all completely wrong .

    • @lucadellasciucca967
      @lucadellasciucca967 5 років тому

      @@makidowen that s because 99% of people are like the kid in the video. you need to handpick competent people if you want to argue with one. You are very unlikely to find one by accident.

  • @Dinoslayer-ee3te
    @Dinoslayer-ee3te 6 років тому +130

    you should release these in podcast format

    • @x-ra3849
      @x-ra3849 6 років тому +8

      Seriously

    • @dougdimmadome2303
      @dougdimmadome2303 6 років тому +2

      Agreed

    • @mattcanoy5353
      @mattcanoy5353 6 років тому +3

      After binging 7 hours of the backlog I HIGHLY agree with this as a podcast as well as video highlights.

  • @kleptopolarbear1609
    @kleptopolarbear1609 6 років тому +103

    So...not criticizing Destiny but ive been noticing something lately...it seems that he almost has less patience with these far right idiots or at the very least he will call them out out for lying a lot more often...im worried theyre starting to break him in a way

    • @yidavv
      @yidavv 6 років тому +90

      yeah, i guess he is just tired of it all. imagine talking to these people for hours everyday, even every other day and them presenting arguments you destroyed previously and having to repeat it over and over again. i would not be able to handle that well.

    • @kleptopolarbear1609
      @kleptopolarbear1609 6 років тому +41

      oh i agree completely...i just hope he doesnt get burnt out on this because while the people he does argue are complete idiots...he is doing a good job pointing out the flaws in their ideas and not just giving them a platform... he is doing an important job on youtube actually...while the likes of Hbom, Contra, and Suan do a really good job in their own respective ways they dont challenge people live...im not saying they need to but Destiny is literally the only one who does it at a competent level

    • @SpookyEggs
      @SpookyEggs 6 років тому +17

      Kleptopolarbear I feel like people like Shaun, hbomb and contra are better then it comes to videos, hbomb and contra not only have great research but amazing video presentation and while Shaun's presentation isn't as flashy he is extremely good at research and conveying the information in a clear and understandable way. However I feel like they might be the people who get set off in a live debate due to the idiotic shit people say while destiny has this inherent bs shield that keeps him reasonably calm.

    • @JohnHarlienIII
      @JohnHarlienIII 6 років тому +1

      I can understand the frustration when you deal with the same tired arguments over and over

    • @lucadellasciucca967
      @lucadellasciucca967 5 років тому

      it s just that a lot of their point are valid and he has to focus a lot on his speaking skills. when that is not enough he finds ways like saying they have no clue of what they are talking about to win the argument and move on with the conversation

  • @qwamqwamasketilmixum2915
    @qwamqwamasketilmixum2915 6 років тому +133

    This segment could have been called “Destiny speaks with an absolute moron!” With a warning at the bottom stating “warning: you may lose IQ listening to the guest speak.”

    • @zianitori1565
      @zianitori1565 6 років тому +2

      IQ is a spook XD

    • @frankashton9048
      @frankashton9048 6 років тому

      TIL meme is just an unfunny joke that an unfunny uncreative group of people keep repeating and no comedian would ever use memes because they're not fucking hacky losers like yourself.

    • @qwamqwamasketilmixum2915
      @qwamqwamasketilmixum2915 6 років тому +2

      Frank Ashton I don’t think anybody claimed to be a comedian, it’s good to see you’re triggered though. Please, do explain, what is your definition of a “TIL meme” & what exactly made you hulk out at your computer screen?

    • @frankashton9048
      @frankashton9048 6 років тому

      Well it's just this leftist thing of "I'm gonna like your joke even though it's unfunny"-bullshit. Just making sure it didn't get to your head and you actually would take this new found "talent" to real life, we already have trevor noah to do this for.

    • @qwamqwamasketilmixum2915
      @qwamqwamasketilmixum2915 6 років тому +4

      Frank Ashton 🤣 now who’s failing at an attempted comedy routine. Not only are you not making sense with whatever it is you are trying to say but you’re not answering the questions I asked you. Nice attempt at being clever though, was your original comment just projection than? How do you know what I said was a joke? I could have been completely serious, did you even listen to the moron who Destiny decided to platform? Either you didn’t or you’re as dense as he is. Anyway, I think I just earned my SJW points for the day, file this under the ‘speak to a ‘tard program’.🖖🏽

  • @SlippyMcDervish
    @SlippyMcDervish 6 років тому +33

    'Why do you feel so strongly about ideas that you have no clue about?' - ULTRA KILL

  • @JUNO-69
    @JUNO-69 6 років тому +532

    Basically he was wearing the typical Jordan Peterson starter pack

    • @FunkyCrazyToast
      @FunkyCrazyToast 6 років тому +30

      how does this have anything to do with Jordan Peterson?

    • @JUNO-69
      @JUNO-69 6 років тому +124

      Calan Hazelgren It’s almost as if he listens to Jordan P and then poorly attempts to parrot his ideas. These ideas are not his own. It’s not like he was well researched and prepared. That’s why his ideas fell apart so easily.

    • @Nersius
      @Nersius 6 років тому +6

      Hard to say since I have never seen anything of his, but supposedly he's really into the binary gender/male is always masculine female is always feminine train.

    • @SettlingTape33
      @SettlingTape33 6 років тому +18

      @BlasterMaster You're definitely not alone in that opinion. He's a sophist
      He's actually a really shit debater, he is just very confident which conveys to the uninformed that he must know what he's talking about. Watch his debate on bill C-16 at University of Toronto and compare how he backs up his arguments compared to the other two participants to see what I mean.

    • @frankashton9048
      @frankashton9048 6 років тому +8

      "Basically everyone in this comment-section is wearing the typical Destiny starter pack".......

  • @shnurr214
    @shnurr214 6 років тому +151

    destiny i really like your content but you really really really have to get some more intelligent people to talk to. This was just pain to listen to the guy flip flop and unable to form a coherent argument throughout the whole debate.

    • @portagenial
      @portagenial 6 років тому +5

      That's the dumb part of his idea of Free speech and platforming everybody, he gets idiots to debate to, and Destiny it's not a genius either.

    • @portagenial
      @portagenial 6 років тому +23

      When did that happened? and with who?

    • @portagenial
      @portagenial 6 років тому +24

      JF doesn't know how to debate, also his "old shit" is basically common knowledge. Also, how did he dox tonka? I didn't hear that, but he sucked at debating as well

    • @Avenger222
      @Avenger222 6 років тому +31

      +Flouride Sipper Wait... since when is linking someone's IMDB (a public database) considered doxxing? The profile name is literally "Tonkasaw".
      Anyone can find this information -- it's public.

    • @Avenger222
      @Avenger222 6 років тому +14

      +Flouride Sipper Yeah, that's true. I would have had no idea that JF raped a mentally handicapped 19 yo without Destiny pointing it out. Although the court documents are public information, I don't think it was common knowledge that JF was a rapist.
      Honestly, I'm also not a huge fan of this kind of 'tit for tat' retaliation. Two wrongs don't make a right.

  • @listerrs3580
    @listerrs3580 6 років тому +52

    Can you please stop debating people that have seen 1 video on a topic and think they are an expert

    • @MS-pd7fc
      @MS-pd7fc 6 років тому +23

      HardCase so stop debating the alt right entirely?

    • @fukushimadaichi415
      @fukushimadaichi415 6 років тому +3

      Then how will Destiny win his debates?

    • @Killopotamus
      @Killopotamus 5 років тому

      I think there's productivity in it, regardless, since the dumbass arguments they make aren't any better than the people they get them from.

    • @Truthist1776
      @Truthist1776 5 років тому

      He can't debate anyone else. He'd get crushed by anyone who knows anything.

  • @titanscar2183
    @titanscar2183 5 років тому +25

    Kinda felt bad for the kid. I've done it before, walking into a conversation where I do nothing but stutter and chance topics because I don't know what I'm talking about.
    Highschool was nutty

  • @ohmydawg2223
    @ohmydawg2223 6 років тому +16

    I kinda like the idea of " Dicks out for prostate cancer "

  • @austinedwards6716
    @austinedwards6716 6 років тому +102

    Destiny debate Steven Crowder

    • @magnuslie867
      @magnuslie867 6 років тому +2

      too short

    • @AmineSamus
      @AmineSamus 6 років тому +67

      Crowder should first not run away from potholer and then consider debating someone.

    • @s-kazi940
      @s-kazi940 6 років тому +11

      Kyle Kulinsky from secular talk is the man for the job.

    • @MorbidSlinky
      @MorbidSlinky 5 років тому +2

      Crowder might actually be reasoned with. Might. I doubt the sensibilities of anyone who thought Milo was a champion of liberty.

    • @pepesilvia5936
      @pepesilvia5936 5 років тому

      Stephanie Crowder should come out of the closet.

  • @k33k62
    @k33k62 2 роки тому +8

    coming back and watching this in 2022 is a trip

  • @Munch180
    @Munch180 6 років тому +75

    Did any of you actually sit through this entire thing? How?

  • @knowledgenieous
    @knowledgenieous 6 років тому +59

    "i hate you, i really do hate you"
    lmao

  • @blackflagofdeathgamester9685
    @blackflagofdeathgamester9685 6 років тому +45

    This is without question, the hardest discussion I have ever listened to, and having to talk to people just like him is why I avoid discussions all together. If this kid is capable of getting a Masters degree, then ..... (Gets gun and ends it all)

    • @magnuslie867
      @magnuslie867 6 років тому +10

      I mean JF has a PhD. Yeah, stupid/crazy people get graduate degrees all the time. Some of the dumbest people I've ever known have had PhDs.

    • @blackflagofdeathgamester9685
      @blackflagofdeathgamester9685 6 років тому +2

      I am sadly, all too aware of the fact that degrees these days are far more something you buy, than something you earn. Apparently, JF fucked every mentally disabled woman on the East Coast, more or less his own words.

    • @hopedream11
      @hopedream11 5 років тому

      @@magnuslie867 seems like if you don't get a PhD, then your more likely to be more well off good lord lol

    • @kevinsingh9966
      @kevinsingh9966 5 років тому +2

      Im in undergrad for business as well, will be getting a Master's degree as well; you don't need to know any of this stuff to get a degree like this. I promise. Maybe he should have developed better critical thinking skills i guess? but like its not hard to get a masters in INTB without knowing things like this lol

  • @jorgepacheco9845
    @jorgepacheco9845 6 років тому +54

    Increased body cams on police officers is a sign that black lives matter is helping and that the public acknowledges that some police do abuse their powers and need to be watched.

    • @kuroichan101
      @kuroichan101 6 років тому +1

      Exactly

    • @cman8464
      @cman8464 6 років тому +1

      Or they are getting body cams to appease you raving lunatics. The body cams actually help the officer out from getting charged by insane left winged loonies.

    • @cman8464
      @cman8464 6 років тому +2

      Didn't need BLM to get something like that. They had cameras on cop cars the next logical step would be on cops. I imagine it probably would of happened regardless.

    • @jboy1761
      @jboy1761 6 років тому +4

      C Man sure, but BLM enforced the idea with the protests undoubtedly, I don't agree with the point though as studies have shown body cams to have little change in behavior on cops.

    • @cman8464
      @cman8464 6 років тому

      Somehow i find that hard to believe. Show me the studies showing lapel camera to be ineffective, if they are ineffective well then they are a waste of time and money and should be gotten rid of.

  • @snowballeffect7812
    @snowballeffect7812 6 років тому +152

    Medically speaking, gender is on a spectrum. Every modern physician is taught this.

    • @BytesAndBites
      @BytesAndBites 6 років тому +7

      Gender identity is not a social construct.99 percent of people who inhabit a body with a specific biological sex , identify with that biological sex. And of the people who identify as male or female , who are also biologically male or female. the majority have the sexual preference and the gender identity that would go along with that .The evidence that biological factors play a role in determining gender identity is overpowering. the only arguments have risen from the humanities and liberal arts. No scientific backing.

    • @tmsphere
      @tmsphere 6 років тому +67

      comments here: "waaaahh science doesn't agree with my preconceived ideas and biases waaaahhh fake news fake news"

    • @Andrew-fi1sd
      @Andrew-fi1sd 6 років тому +34

      "That statement isn't true whatsoever!" while providing nothing that disproves it.

    • @magnuslie867
      @magnuslie867 6 років тому +35

      PENIS AND VAGINA!
      I'm not really making any point. I just wanted to yell penis and vagina.

    • @snowballeffect7812
      @snowballeffect7812 6 років тому +47

      @Mike are you a fucking doctor? cuz i am.
      @JABeuphoria 99 % do NOT identify with their birth sex. If you would be so kind as to provide scientific evidence for your bullshit, made-up claims, that'd be great, you fucking hypocrite. Biological factors do not cause women to grow their hair out long, shave their legs and wear dresses and high heels. Perhaps it would do you some good to actually read some scientific literature on these subjects you are so horrendously ignorant on instead of putting your idiocy on display for the internet.

  • @originoflogos
    @originoflogos 5 років тому +51

    Okay, this dude sounds like he watches nothing but Sargon of Akkad and Jordan Peterson videos.
    Oh, by the way, it’s obvious he hasn’t studied *ANYTHING*

  • @D0TperiodD0T
    @D0TperiodD0T 6 років тому +71

    Date streamed: 1/28/2018
    Published on Jan 27, 2018
    the earth is flat

    • @Rohit-wc7go
      @Rohit-wc7go 6 років тому +2

      Zeaxe illuminati confirmed

    • @carechameleon7895
      @carechameleon7895 6 років тому +4

      @Michael Gorlitsky
      *HHHHAHAHAHHAHAHA MORON*

    • @lucadellasciucca967
      @lucadellasciucca967 5 років тому

      @Malicious Troll xD

    • @thabic2019
      @thabic2019 5 років тому

      Finally! Real evidence! I've been struggling to destroy my libtard friends with FACTS and LOGIC
      I've been disappointing daddy Shapiro :(

  • @SuperWooper22
    @SuperWooper22 6 років тому +14

    The slippery slope game was most fun when people said legalizing gay marriage would then lead to pedophiles getting rights.

    • @AVikingNerd
      @AVikingNerd 4 роки тому

      @NFL sports talk Citation needed

  • @dockdrumming
    @dockdrumming 6 років тому +34

    His confidence? I think it is due to the Dunning-Kruger effect.

    • @clorpy897
      @clorpy897 3 роки тому

      this comment has never been more relevant

  • @JesterTheEnt
    @JesterTheEnt 6 років тому +41

    Wowee why did nobody tell me NoBS has a younger brother?

  • @alipludepom
    @alipludepom 6 років тому +15

    Hearing people who can't even begin to grasp the basics of social construction talk about clearly socialy constructed things is just the worst.

  • @zengara11
    @zengara11 5 років тому +23

    "I am on my phone" *sudden keyboard sounds in the background*

    • @HerroYuy246
      @HerroYuy246 5 років тому +2

      zengara11 well he could still be in front of his computer.

  • @Spacejam420
    @Spacejam420 6 років тому +52

    dunning kruger

  • @LowTempDabr
    @LowTempDabr 2 роки тому +9

    I like how Destiny actually hears people out that are clearly not as good at articulating themselves as he is. He'll throw a few jokes in and finish a few of their sentences snarkily sometimes, but overall he gives everyone he's debating a base level of respect. He'll generally give them all the time they need to piece their own argument together.
    It's nice.

  • @5Amigos32
    @5Amigos32 6 років тому +16

    Destiny honestly I think you should take a vacation for a little while. You've seemed really down recently like it's a noticable change in the past couple weeks from how you normally are

  • @SLRok
    @SLRok 6 років тому +14

    I like how the violence is only bad when it’s the protesters being violent not the cops rolling into fuergeson with tanks, sniper rifles and militarized police.

  • @zianitori1565
    @zianitori1565 6 років тому +37

    "I'm not a leftist whatsoever" XD I love it

    • @Annie-xb8xx
      @Annie-xb8xx 5 років тому +5

      He was so offended and disgusted by the suggestion that a single of his views may be slightly left leaning 😂

    • @raygesling
      @raygesling 4 роки тому

      A strong endorsement for the left

  • @MohdTaufiq91
    @MohdTaufiq91 6 років тому +89

    Wow Destiny got brutalized by the police in this debate.

    • @fullmetal2455
      @fullmetal2455 4 роки тому

      He got his spine broken in this debate

  • @charliebean2450
    @charliebean2450 6 років тому +14

    This guy has an amazing debate structure, having random seizures, stuttering, yammering, and changing the subject over and over again, completely getting away from the original subject. Oof. Good job, buddy. Destiny got DESTROYED in this debate.

  • @Ace2655
    @Ace2655 6 років тому +16

    This guys persistence is god like. His ability to deflect, on the other hand, is lacking.

  • @BowlerHatMan
    @BowlerHatMan 6 років тому +12

    i Know how you feel Destiny this is how i feel after talking to people who think leaving the EU is a Good idea but then can not tell me the benefits of leaving or have no idea how the EU works. its frustrating

  • @sonicbelmont300
    @sonicbelmont300 4 роки тому +6

    These people fail to understand that cops aren't supposed to brutalize/kill guilty people either

  • @TheSlikiboy
    @TheSlikiboy 4 роки тому +15

    Still relevant, 2 years later

  • @YuukitheMighty1
    @YuukitheMighty1 6 років тому +16

    black lives matter has their own chapter in my state and they have activists that meet at tons of colleges and universities in the state. this guy is reaching.

  • @foxmatrix25
    @foxmatrix25 6 років тому +30

    Caller keeps saying "I think we can both agree" he is so desperately trying to find conformity to equal his so-called intellect.

  • @ralfanari8854
    @ralfanari8854 6 років тому +25

    this person hurts my brain

  • @Kitefel
    @Kitefel 6 років тому +7

    That guy was honestly pathetic and the sad thing is SOOOOO many people have the exact views. You're so patient, I could not have endured that conversation past 10 minutes

  • @ennojasper6690
    @ennojasper6690 6 років тому +26

    Get me on the debate I am the CEO of Antifa inc. and an honorary member of the Black Bloc ©

    • @magnuslie867
      @magnuslie867 6 років тому +7

      Antifa is like the mafia not a business soy boy
      trust me i am 6'4"

    • @angelicacharm3913
      @angelicacharm3913 6 років тому +4

      I'm 6'7" and I sit on the board of Black Bloc

  • @XShadowSeer
    @XShadowSeer 6 років тому +15

    CAN WE FINALLY PUT AN END TO THE DESTINY DESTROYED IN THIS DEBATE MEME??! ARRRGH1!!

    • @krad1314
      @krad1314 6 років тому +7

      XShadowSeer you just destroyed that meme in this debate

  • @kuroichan101
    @kuroichan101 6 років тому +12

    Im only 3 minutes in and I know this will be a dumb debate. If you have never looked up the stats or read anything about a topic then dont come to a debate about it and hold a strong opinion about it. Its dumb because you will be clueless about the topic. Loads of these people hating on BLM and think Blacks arent targeted a bit more etc, have never read the research or anything.

  • @BoredErica
    @BoredErica 5 років тому +8

    Mega big brain take: Just don't commit crime!
    Amazin'.

  • @watchpaintdrytv9129
    @watchpaintdrytv9129 6 років тому +7

    You need to mock them more probably. You're right they shouldn't be "ignored." They need to be embarrassed and ridiculed and propped up as strawmen to mock.

  • @tealefti
    @tealefti 6 років тому +18

    I sure hope this guy does much better in his area of study, otherwise he does not deserve that degree.

  • @javiernewsam8829
    @javiernewsam8829 6 років тому +26

    "HOW DO I REECH DESE KEEDS"

  • @TheFreshTrumpet
    @TheFreshTrumpet 4 роки тому +2

    Female is to sex as woman is to gender. Science speaks to sex, it does not speak to why we have gendered pronouns. Really not a hard concept to grasp when you break down people’s imagined orders of how the world works.

  • @rinkurikara
    @rinkurikara 6 років тому +22

    Any Plans on talking to Jordan Peterson? :,D

    • @wabachawtv
      @wabachawtv 6 років тому +3

      rinkurikara if Destiny's were to talk to Jordan Peterson, everything that he says that is so outlandish would become so apparent. Any shred of intelligence that he may come across as having would immediately fall apart. Honestly I hope one day he can talk to a true intellectual such as Jordan Peterson. Frankly, his method of debating his viewers or random Twitter users is incredibly disingenuous.

  • @whoisntwhoisit2126
    @whoisntwhoisit2126 4 роки тому +3

    You could up the quality of these videos by simply requesting the other speaker be on video as well, its so nice to be able to actually see the person and their facial expressions ect. Often I am very curious what these people look like when they are making their, completely ridiculous, arguments.

    • @americaninsurgent4403
      @americaninsurgent4403 4 роки тому

      Yea that makes it a lot better, like when he debated Caleb Maupin.

  • @lemondirector
    @lemondirector 6 років тому +16

    This guy needs to stop eating paint chips

  • @Sidkain
    @Sidkain 4 роки тому +6

    The amount of times you could hear this guy's brain break through his audible reactions because he was presented ideas he had never heard before and then completely denied them is so satisfying.

  • @zlambert23
    @zlambert23 5 років тому +3

    “Don’t commit crimes”
    Criminals everywhere: WELL FUCK WHY DIDNT I THINK OF THAT

  • @patdastar1
    @patdastar1 4 роки тому +5

    who's watching this guy say police brutality is overplayed in 2020?

  • @AnnoyingQuentin
    @AnnoyingQuentin 6 років тому +16

    This guy sounds like Walter White junior.

  • @ZedsDeadXO
    @ZedsDeadXO 6 років тому +10

    *Nervous laughter every time he experiences cognitive dissonance

  • @Narcissistic_Penguin
    @Narcissistic_Penguin 6 років тому +20

    Can you set up a debate with Jordan Peterson about the use or pronouns? This is a topic i've yet to decide on and (being selfish even though I doubt i'm alone in this) it would help me solidify my views one way or the other

    • @GoChiefs1288
      @GoChiefs1288 6 років тому +5

      Tom Lawton I hope you’ve realized that Jordan Peterson is wholly uninformed on that subject (specifically bill C16) by now.

  • @Sewnkinmusic
    @Sewnkinmusic 5 років тому +6

    I love when Destiny just finds out that the guy is straight up transphobic around 1:37:00. Guy: "It's a mental illness" Destiny: "Oh, ok."

  • @mp5137
    @mp5137 6 років тому +5

    Wow, debate got destroyed in this Destiny

  • @johnkapp849
    @johnkapp849 5 років тому +8

    this guy's accent and mannerisms show me he's canadian. i swear we're not all morons, but most of us are.

  • @sambutton8494
    @sambutton8494 4 роки тому +6

    "We live in a society"
    - Destiny
    1:07:35

  • @JapanAlex01
    @JapanAlex01 6 років тому +14

    The caller was absolutely destroyed, and it was beautiful listening to him stammering.

  • @jdjenk04
    @jdjenk04 4 роки тому +6

    “Woah we’re animals now?”
    Was he a plant before this discussion?

    • @RanEncounter
      @RanEncounter 4 роки тому

      Well there are a lot of religious people that do not accept evolution...

  • @Young2Kauri1976
    @Young2Kauri1976 6 років тому +4

    "You can't lump them all in bunch... differences..."
    After 40 minutes, I was done with this, yet there was 3 times as much to go.

  • @AronCruise
    @AronCruise 5 років тому +3

    WTF Destiny? Your opponent said "Yes it will take away their right to abortion but thats okay because abortion is murder" The question was "Will Trump take away minority rights?" So your opponent admitted to him taking away rights then tried to defend it and you got sucked into debating that with him instead of showing that he literally admitted to trump taking away rights.

  • @CheyTacProductions
    @CheyTacProductions 5 років тому +3

    I love how slowly the Twitter user speaks, the way he pauses, and how hesitant he is to answer Destiny’s questions. It is like he is walking on a minefield-ladened area. It’s beautiful.

  • @MrBroth223
    @MrBroth223 5 років тому +5

    How did this debate last 2.25 hours? I thought the twitter troll was cooked after 30 minutes

  • @jose1988o
    @jose1988o 4 роки тому +5

    I’m so glad I found this Chanel, I have friends like this guy and I did learn a lot!!! Thanks destiny

    • @OneAndZer0
      @OneAndZer0 3 роки тому

      Honestly, the biggest take away, even if you don't agree with destiny, is his ability to debate. He's very good at starting from a place of questioning someone where they got their opinions from, then showing them some information they've probably never paid attention to, and walking them through that.

  • @minkleymcmoo5248
    @minkleymcmoo5248 6 років тому +4

    "gender
    ˈdʒɛndə/Submit
    noun
    1.
    the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones)."
    Argument over.

  • @coladict
    @coladict 6 років тому +4

    There were so many times in this where the guy knew you caught him and just didn't want to admit he's wrong.

  • @Kammsammich
    @Kammsammich 5 років тому +6

    *gets jammed up on reasons why women wear dresses*
    *attempts to weasel out of being wrong and cries “irrelevant”*
    *uses example that is totally relevant and completely contradicts his premise*

  • @voxomnes9537
    @voxomnes9537 4 роки тому +1

    I'm so sick of the disgust, the hatred, and the ignorance.

  • @nocctea
    @nocctea 4 роки тому +2

    I love it when a white guy tells black people that we actually *dont* know what’s happening in our own community and that we’re wrong about something that’s been happening ever since America was founded. So fun.

  • @tmsphere
    @tmsphere 6 років тому +19

    "Technical there can be incomplete information in data ergo my gut feelings about black ppl and crime is correct and all data that disagrees with that is wrong"

    • @TheRiddam
      @TheRiddam 6 років тому

      dusty48 sounds scientific

  • @thelichemaster6196
    @thelichemaster6196 6 років тому +6

    Holy shit, the wheel is spinning but the hamster is dead with this guy. Good job Destiny :D

  • @Chogroka
    @Chogroka 6 років тому +20

    1:26:50 - why are you like this??

    • @polishpipebomb
      @polishpipebomb 6 років тому +4

      "What did I say 10 mins ago?"
      how the fuck do these degenerate morons find the confidence to think they know ANYTHING?
      It could not be more clear he's just regugitating perterson and anti SJW youtuber talking points.
      Pathetic, throw him in the fire.

  • @beastemeauxde7029
    @beastemeauxde7029 5 років тому +6

    33:25 "I mean, like, society's hella complicated, dawg."
    - _DESTINY_

  • @cambienvenu
    @cambienvenu 3 роки тому +2

    As soon as they bring up C16, you know you’re dealing with a JP fanboy.