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  • @chandler7493
    @chandler7493 7 років тому +988

    "You don't have to scream like that, dude."
    And we're off.

    • @SDREHXC
      @SDREHXC 7 років тому +18

      FierceDeityLinkMask wtf it's like in the first 15 seconds my dude. It's literally the second sentence the guy said.

    • @poly.morphine
      @poly.morphine 7 років тому +75

      What the actual fuck was that even about.
      These dude's are so trigger happy to get triggered it's retarded.
      The irony is fucking palpable.

    • @megax5000
      @megax5000 7 років тому +3

      Haha, seriously wtf?

    • @HadalStreetlights
      @HadalStreetlights 5 років тому +2

      I actually wonder if this is a jokey reference to another Destiny stream where he gets told not to scream a bunch.

    • @matheuszoiim
      @matheuszoiim 5 років тому +3

      "I Came Out to Have a Good Time and I'm Honestly Feeling So Attacked Right Now"

  • @horizon92lee
    @horizon92lee 7 років тому +872

    "Life isn't fair" is not a legitimate response to not help society...

    • @VivaLaRazsa
      @VivaLaRazsa 7 років тому +115

      ...but if I repeat it enough it may look like an argument :>

    • @mayainverse9429
      @mayainverse9429 7 років тому +5

      there is a huge difference between helping someone with your own will and forcing all of society to bow down to the lowest common denominator of society. its not fair someone pointed at you in school and you got sad and stuffed food into your mouth until you are 400 lbs. that sucks but society should not have to pay for your medical care.

    • @davidkafka2452
      @davidkafka2452 7 років тому +58

      Christian Gerber we invest in elevating that person. If this person is developing an eating disorder because they are hyper sensitive to being insulted we can elevate their position by getting the mental help and support they need to better deal with unpleasant words.

    • @porky5567
      @porky5567 7 років тому +41

      Actually it would be fair because as a society they would have agreed to provide the same protections to any one needing help. If you don't care for that type of insurance then move to a place where other people agree with you. But at this point i feel, like you might as well criticize the general idea of taxes if you're going to complain about shit like this
      "i don't use a car so i don't want to pay for roads" .

    • @horizon92lee
      @horizon92lee 7 років тому +35

      MrFuggleGuggle yes because helping those less fortunate is comparable to exterminating an entire race. Terrific analogy !

  • @BrendanBeckett
    @BrendanBeckett 7 років тому +456

    Destiny: X
    Guy: WHAAT????
    Destiny: *explains X*
    Guy: okay, that's fair

    • @travishimebaugh8381
      @travishimebaugh8381 5 років тому +5

      By God, you've nailed it

    • @binodshrestha1553
      @binodshrestha1553 5 років тому +3

      but dude, life is not fair! I guess I don no I don no

    • @Rikishade1
      @Rikishade1 4 роки тому +1

      Kinda ironic how Destiny was bumping X in the beginning lol

    • @tramarthomas6105
      @tramarthomas6105 Рік тому

      the guys a weirdo fan that was desperate for destinys attention. he was trying so hard

  • @ManualBreathing
    @ManualBreathing 7 років тому +691

    This dude has literally never had to want for things in life. He has zero ability to understand why $50 is a lot of money to some people.

    • @Jalmerk
      @Jalmerk 5 років тому +49

      Not to mention the physical toll. He talks about it like a plan b pill is a legitimate form of contraception. Like just pop a day-after pill every time you fuck what's the problem?

    • @agentnunez5118
      @agentnunez5118 5 років тому +10

      Why would 50 dollars matter to you socialist idiots? You would force the rest of us to pay for their ID's in your ideal world anyway.
      You idiots are all dishonest and stupid. Get ready for right-wing extremism globally.

    • @JayBoo228
      @JayBoo228 5 років тому +68

      Nelson Nunez “Your ideal world” that you just angrily made up lol, calm down.

    • @JamesAllenQuinn
      @JamesAllenQuinn 5 років тому +10

      It doesn't cost $50 to get an ID and I'm pretty sure you need an ID to get a job. So if you don't have a job, have no plan on getting an ID, you are not contributing in any way, you are gonna have to suffer and spend the $20 to get your ID.

    • @joeisawesome540
      @joeisawesome540 5 років тому +40

      @@JamesAllenQuinn not every id is accepted at the polls.. thats why the problem arises..

  • @davidkafka2452
    @davidkafka2452 7 років тому +191

    TLDR
    >PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY
    >What do you mean by that?
    >NO HANDOUTS, LIFE ISN'T FAIR.

    • @smokejaguar986
      @smokejaguar986 7 років тому +21

      David Kafka it's like I was at the RNC in person

    • @travishimebaugh8381
      @travishimebaugh8381 5 років тому +14

      Tell you what, kid. In my neighborhood we'll make birth control more accessible, and in your neighborhood you can stand on a street corner yapping "Personal sponsa-billa-tee! Personal sponsa-billa-tee!" over and over. We'll see who does better at addressing unwanted pregnancies.

  • @stonedzebra420
    @stonedzebra420 6 років тому +230

    This should be titled: "Destiny teaches kid how to critically think properly"

    • @alexad7570
      @alexad7570 4 роки тому

      ' kid teaches destiny how to think preperly' just a small mistake,,,, no big deal your welcome dude

    • @liamwelch3167
      @liamwelch3167 4 роки тому +5

      @@alexad7570 LMAO

    • @JohnDoe-sp3dc
      @JohnDoe-sp3dc 3 роки тому

      @@alexad7570 lemme know when that black hole created by the deterministic universe we live in makes our society collapse.

  • @gap0011
    @gap0011 7 років тому +408

    out of everything the kid said, the "$50 isnt that much to poor people" thing was the most ignorant.

    • @iancalvert417
      @iancalvert417 5 років тому +25

      The vast majority of poor people are in debt and this guy thinks that $50 is nothing lol.

    • @shithead157
      @shithead157 4 роки тому +3

      you cant save 50 dollars a day in 4 years .

    • @FreekinEkin2
      @FreekinEkin2 4 роки тому +22

      @@MWGui It's not that they never saw $50. It's that if you're living paycheck to paycheck, you aren't going to waste that on an ID so you can vote. You also aren't going to take a working day off so you can go to the DMV and get an ID. You have bigger priorities. This means that a certain group of people are being prevented from voting.

    • @ericsmith116
      @ericsmith116 4 роки тому +12

      @@shithead157 when most ppl CANT afford a 400 emergency bill 50 bucks is a lot. It's not in the realm of a million dollars but a lot of ppl have to budget accordingly where 50 bucks can't just be loaned out on a whim.

    • @eratoisyourmuse659
      @eratoisyourmuse659 4 роки тому +12

      Im a single mom of 4 and I work full time. If I was American, $50 is the difference between groceries,
      School supplies, new shoes for my family. This guy is clueless

  • @Kozanik
    @Kozanik 7 років тому +326

    "You don't have to scream like that"
    *THIS BOUTTA BE GOOOD*

  • @Marshma808
    @Marshma808 7 років тому +150

    That analogy was incredible. Even with all the time I had to get used to this guy, I'm still pretty shocked at how he responded to it. "if you remove the hurdles they won't learn to jump over them." By this guy's logic it feels like we should actually just be trying to insert as many hurdles as possible into rich peoples lives so they can become better people. I mean life's not fair right?

    • @joshholland90
      @joshholland90 5 років тому +9

      That was my exact takeaway as well. He's speaking about the hurdles as if it's virtuous to overcome them and then immediately after that he says that rich people don't have to jump those hurdles. The conclusion logically follows that rich people would benefit from learning the hard lessons of those hurdles so we should try to insert them where we can.

    • @jordinagel1184
      @jordinagel1184 3 роки тому +5

      @@womenrespecter879 imagine believing that it isn’t for anyone.
      Seriously, not everyone has the time to line up at the DMV for a few hours, especially since they’re only open during work days and working hours.

    • @0x20pirate
      @0x20pirate 3 роки тому +5

      @@womenrespecter879 I nearly went blind from the unbelievably whiteness of this comment

    • @haruhirogrimgar6047
      @haruhirogrimgar6047 2 роки тому +1

      @@jordinagel1184 Not to mention they aren't the most enjoyable or intuitive places either. You often have to fill out and bring in paperwork as well.
      Don't have your Social Security Card and Birth Certificate? Well, you aren't getting any kind of I.D. Have fun in the hell of figuring out how to get those first, paying the fees involved, spending the time in-line for that. Only to come back for an i.d.
      It is like people think you just show up to the DMV, give your name, pay $5 and they shoot your photo and hand you the i.d. on the spot. That isn't how this sh"t works.

    • @jordinagel1184
      @jordinagel1184 2 роки тому

      @@haruhirogrimgar6047 yeah, there are too many Americans who think that ID = ID, and free ID = actually free ID.

  • @Helthurian
    @Helthurian 7 років тому +209

    Digging yourself out of a 10 ft hole is harder than starting from the surface. You can tell this kid started from the surface and thinks he knows the struggle of living paycheck to paycheck having barely enough money to keep the lights on. I don't get why Destiny didn't bring up that most DMV's are only open during the work week and during normal working hours. A poor person can't simply take a day off work, then spend money for an ID if they can barely keep the lights on as is. It's basic logic.

    • @alexad7570
      @alexad7570 4 роки тому +1

      that is a very stupid argument, if you think that you have to take a whole day off to get id maybe that is why you are poor.

    • @louishuang1507
      @louishuang1507 4 роки тому

      This guy was born on a hill and managed to jump down onto surface level

    • @liptongreentea3296
      @liptongreentea3296 4 роки тому +23

      @@alexad7570 you ever been to a DMV?

    • @alexad7570
      @alexad7570 4 роки тому

      lipton green tea i live in canada. In here you go to saaq( dmv equivalent) and it takes like max 1h

    • @liptongreentea3296
      @liptongreentea3296 4 роки тому +16

      @@alexad7570 so then you don't know the pain it is going to a DMV but you want to tell other it ain't so bad? Ok buddy

  • @marco_rocco
    @marco_rocco 5 років тому +31

    Seeing this dude disregard $50 as chump change made me realize I'm probably not middle class...

    • @dalinkwent202
      @dalinkwent202 5 років тому +3

      Chances are you probably support yourself and work for a living, vs this pink-haired clown who isn't likely to do much of any value...ever.

  • @rockyboy504
    @rockyboy504 7 років тому +93

    "You don't have to scream like that"- Guy who remains louder than Destiny for the entirety of the video

  • @DarPower1
    @DarPower1 5 років тому +39

    "I like to live in my world where condoms dont exist"
    Easily outed as a virgin, lol

  • @Worgen33
    @Worgen33 7 років тому +179

    If your worried you sound racist then you should probably stop saying racist things.

    • @megpaul8076
      @megpaul8076 5 років тому +25

      My favorite is when he started to yell, "IF THIS STUPID BITCH CAN'T AFFOR--" and then composes himself and tries to calmly restart to, "if this _woman_ ..."

    • @TheStraightGod
      @TheStraightGod 5 років тому

      @onewithmyself Hey man, completely unrelated to your comment but have you ever seen someone with the political compass profile picture that was somewhere other than anarchist left?

    • @TheStraightGod
      @TheStraightGod 5 років тому +1

      @onewithmyself Alright thank you for your insight

    • @connorendres4544
      @connorendres4544 4 роки тому

      imuglierthanyou holy shit you have the exact same political compass bearing as me nice

  • @P4shaPlays
    @P4shaPlays 7 років тому +144

    50:20 through 51:06 is the BEST.
    The hamster in his brain had a fucking heart attack trying to compute the mental gymnastics necessary to refute that simple logic.

    • @P4shaPlays
      @P4shaPlays 7 років тому +50

      You keep repeating this nonsense about "handing them everything" when that is literally only true about people who are born in to the rich/upper-middle class, like you. Poor people aren't being handed shit in comparison, so I don't understand where you get this idea from.
      No offence dude but you sound like a typical "fuck you I got mine" republican that never had a hard days work in their entire god damn life. So you can keep shitting on these people because you're obviously very bitter that some of your daddies inheritance money is going to those dirty poors, but just stop with this pretense like you have some higher noble goal of lifting people through the glory and virtue of hard work that you've never experienced.

    • @of.course
      @of.course 7 років тому

      lol ok bud ;)👍

    • @sk3tchyguy
      @sk3tchyguy 7 років тому +18

      Vincent But here specifically you're arguing against helping the poor...
      Destiny is trying to argue that he wants to level the playing field. If you needed birth control, you don't need to put in nearly the same amount of work and effort to get it compared to a poor person that needs it. You say you value hard work but that's something that it seems like only poor people need to do (in this case, to get birth control).

    • @ExtropianKnight
      @ExtropianKnight 7 років тому +15

      Giving people birth control and access to public school is not "giving them everything", it's investing a comparatively small amount of money to combat a problem that will cost the state a lot more if ignored. No amount of narrative pushing is going to stop poor people from fucking so you will be dealing with the problem in some form no matter what.
      Also, we could probably teach you a lot by seizing all of your family's assets and forcing you to live naked in a sewer eating rat meat. Adversity can teach you things. The point is that us non-poor folks are not expected to have any of those skills, and yet when we have the opportunity to alleviate some of those problems we hear "oh but then they'll never learn!" well if it works for all of us non-poor folk to never be forced to learn these things then what's the point of making sure they do?

    • @davidkafka2452
      @davidkafka2452 7 років тому +23

      Vincent Disilva How did you learn the value of hard work growing up in a comfortable middle class home? You got the free shit you complain about giving to the lower class and act so smug while doing it.

  • @qwamqwamasketilmixum2915
    @qwamqwamasketilmixum2915 6 років тому +60

    Dang dude, I’m just wondering why this “fan” doesn’t just straight up say it. “I hate poor people and I want them punished for existing.” Good Republican though, he has a great future in Congress!

    • @WoeWasMe
      @WoeWasMe 4 роки тому

      Thats the establishment and theres rats on both sides.

    • @haruhirogrimgar6047
      @haruhirogrimgar6047 2 роки тому

      @@WoeWasMe One side passed the child tax credit.
      The other side slashed people's access to healthcare.
      Dems and Republicans are in no way equivalent.

    • @tramarthomas6105
      @tramarthomas6105 Рік тому

      yep. theyll try to bring up things like 'i dont want my tax dollars going towards paying for other peoples birth control,' or 'people need to take self accountability,' but ultimately they just want other people to suffer. i couldnt tell if this guy was trolling or not, but thats how these people actually think. theyll deluded themselves into believing poor people are the problem while being the regressive tumors of humanity

  • @infinityand0
    @infinityand0 7 років тому +49

    What this person is actually advocating is that monarchy is justified; feudalism is justified. It's perfectly fine that some people are born passed the finish line, while others are born many yards ahead of the starting line and still others are born miles behind the starting line. This moron is justifying ALL of that because it's their fault because they have no personal responsibility. That's absurd on its face.

  • @SecularStrategy
    @SecularStrategy 7 років тому +60

    Why do we continually coddle the handicapped with those good parking spaces? Shouldn't I, as a hard-working man that has _not once_ been born with Polio, also have easy access to the Steak & Shake? These crippled people will never improve their condition if we just keep _handing them everything._

    • @jayt7178
      @jayt7178 5 років тому +2

      SecularStrategy lmao that’s AMAZIN’

    • @alexad7570
      @alexad7570 4 роки тому +3

      i just think its really sad how people on the left think that handicapped persons cannot take care of themselves...

    • @savscer7515
      @savscer7515 4 роки тому +2

      @@alexad7570 lmao there is a wide and huge spectrum when it comes to being handicapped

    • @alexad7570
      @alexad7570 4 роки тому +1

      Savscer of course, i just mean that a lot of them don’t want to be treates lile babies

    • @savscer7515
      @savscer7515 4 роки тому +2

      @@alexad7570 True some do, some don't have that choice ✌

  • @robertgutierrez939
    @robertgutierrez939 7 років тому +167

    So I've recently got into watching destiny's videos on politics, and I know "destiny sucks at debates" is a meme. But I haven't seen that. He seems well versed and very well spoken. I think the internet lied to me

    • @sachxtrem
      @sachxtrem 7 років тому +21

      Its cause he keeps getting morons on lately that make him look very good. Not saying hes not a good debater or anything, but NoBullshit and Dick are low hanging fruit imo.

    • @zillafire101
      @zillafire101 7 років тому +4

      Robert Gutierrez He can be, as shown in his latest one on birth control, but he does go for low hanging fruit.

    • @IgnarHusky
      @IgnarHusky 6 років тому +21

      He comes off as a total asshole, that's the main reason. But he really isn't that terrible. I disagree with some of his views, but overall, entertaining as fuck and very eloquent and intelligent.
      I'm personally a Post-Capitalist, so I disagree with a lot of his economics, but he is very intelligently and eloquently putting his points across. And I like that. I have respect for those I disagree with, but have a respectful and intelligent reasoning behind it. Which not a lot of people these days knows how to do.
      Most people just shittalk each other and bitch and whine how wrong the "enemy side" is.

    • @alexad7570
      @alexad7570 4 роки тому

      i don't think you watch good enough... he does suck at debating...

    • @Septiviumexe
      @Septiviumexe 4 роки тому +1

      The world is full of morons and they hate people who are better than them at just "being".
      AMAZIN

  • @Wilshire.1632
    @Wilshire.1632 7 років тому +60

    lol this fella instantly folds on every single point of contention

    • @sangun123
      @sangun123 5 років тому +1

      Lmfao the stuttering is hilarious, “destiny makes an extremely basic well known point” oh wait... uhh I guess I didn’t think about that

  •  4 роки тому +20

    Dude concedes every point then two minutes later he forgets and starts over.

  • @divinuminfernum
    @divinuminfernum 7 років тому +73

    in a nutshell this fox news-gruel fed knobcloud thinks that if you simply just tell people to be better, they will be better... - 20yr olds say the darndest things

    • @dianalopes837
      @dianalopes837 7 років тому +3

      right? so why isn't he a millionaire? its just work hard!!!!

    • @thenorwegian76
      @thenorwegian76 5 років тому

      #BeBest!

  • @Reflexzzzz
    @Reflexzzzz 7 років тому +47

    It always amazes me when people worry that they might sound racist. It's always the same kind of people that have this worry as well.

  • @lozdbzmario
    @lozdbzmario 7 років тому +109

    I'm so tired of this conservative "personal responsibility" and "life isn't fair" canned response to literally everything when you challenge their ideas.

    • @MrFuggleGuggle
      @MrFuggleGuggle 7 років тому +6

      "My failings and problems are now your problems, tee-hee-hee" needs to stop being the norm for the liberals.

    • @m0zric
      @m0zric 7 років тому +38

      What does society gain from not aiding its citizens? If we're not collectively going to enhance each others' lives, then what is the point of having a civilization to begin with?
      These are just my sentiments, though.

    • @lozdbzmario
      @lozdbzmario 7 років тому +28

      yeah because its a personal failing to be born in an unfortunate situation.

    • @fograw5
      @fograw5 6 років тому +1

      MrFuggleGuggle thats called a civilization and community....... let me guess you're an anarchist

    • @MrFuggleGuggle
      @MrFuggleGuggle 6 років тому

      Civilization is a society or place that reaches a stage of social development and organization that is considered advanced.
      I have yet to find an successful advanced culture that allowed a true welfare state, in the long term. Just because half a population is lazy, useless, irresponsible, or retarded doesn't mean the other half that is self-sufficient, responsible, savvy, and hard working should automatically have to pay for them. People who put an emphasis on community tend to be losers who can't stand on their own or are unwilling to compete.
      You and those like you live in the United States because you are "allowed" to. The population is large enough that the government doesn't want to spend money to micromanage you life, and would be contrary to a little thing called FREEDOM. Because the USA is not like China which is literally trying to track your daily activities by the year 2023 (time spent driving, time spent on the internet instead of outside, time spent watching TV, etc.) to judge you as a good enough citizen worthy of tax breaks or government assistance. If you would like more oppressive, authoritarian government that promises no hunger while also limiting everything else you can do in life - please feel free to move there.

  • @swaggie827
    @swaggie827 3 роки тому +7

    The most privileged white kid I've ever heard.

  • @SnorkCosmodix
    @SnorkCosmodix 7 років тому +40

    This speaker's stance on punishment is incredibly concerning, as if the poor are just dogs that needs to have it beaten into them to be better.
    The poor need to exist to make others feel better about themselves? Sounds like this guy's rhetoric would go great during the French Revolution.

    • @codybarlik4524
      @codybarlik4524 3 роки тому +1

      Exactly, people like this want poor people to fucking suffer and wallow in filth because it makes them feel better about themselves and that they’ve accomplished something in their lives

  • @hueyfreeman4366
    @hueyfreeman4366 7 років тому +53

    He doesn’t understand leveling the playing field.
    A child can not take self responsibility.
    A child does not personally choose to be born into a family that is poor.
    If you believe in equality, you want everyone to have equal opportunities from the day they are born.
    You do not want one kid to be born rich and another kid to be born poor. The rich kid will have much more of a chance to become a productive member of society even if the rich kid makes more mistakes than the poor kid.
    In order to prevent things like this from happening, we turn to policy.we tax wealthier people and provide welfare to poor people as an attempt to level the playing field. We tax inheritance and provide public education as an attempt to level the playing field.
    Destiny had the perfect example. Running a race where one person has hurdles and one person doesn’t is ridiculous. That means the person with hurdles must work twice as hard just to be tied with the other person. The person with hurdles has to take “personal responsibility” for a situation he himself had no choice in being placed in.
    A person isn’t personally responsible for the situation they are born into. That argument is complete bullshit.

    • @alexad7570
      @alexad7570 4 роки тому

      that's the difference between the right and left. left believe in equality of outcome and right believe in equality of opportunity. unfortunately nobody on the left realizes that. 'leveling the playing field' as you people say is the worst possible thing that you could do, first of all because it is impossible to totally control the environment in wich somebody is born. there will always be people more poor and more rich whether you like it or not, it is inevitable. what the right says is we cannot control in wich envirement you are born but we can make sure to give you opportunities to get out of it. and say what you want but there is no other place in the world than capitalist countries where you can start at the bottom of the ladder and finish at the top! many countries have tried the ' level the playing field method' (wich is also known as socialism).and it as never worked so far. not even remotely close. also it has led to the death of more than 100 M people in the last century... capitalism is not perfect but it is by far the best system in wich you can live in 2019.

    • @brandonhopkins5241
      @brandonhopkins5241 4 роки тому +5

      @@alexad7570 Great meme

    • @alexad7570
      @alexad7570 4 роки тому

      @@brandonhopkins5241 loll go back to your room and watch dragon ballz kid. let the adults talk a little bit

    • @brandonhopkins5241
      @brandonhopkins5241 4 роки тому +5

      @@alexad7570 Out of all the comebacks I've heard, that was by far the weakest😂

    • @alexad7570
      @alexad7570 4 роки тому

      @@brandonhopkins5241 worst than "great meme" ? youd did not adressed anything i said because you can't. so you resort to trolling because you have nothing to say. sad.

  • @missrobo9313
    @missrobo9313 6 років тому +37

    This guy is the living embodiment of a UA-cam commenter.

  • @SirWasedOne
    @SirWasedOne 7 років тому +31

    Wants people to take personal responsibility and to learn consequences, but would go and commit a crime in an instant if there were no rules.

  • @henryalbrecht2930
    @henryalbrecht2930 7 років тому +41

    How can one man wreck all the right wings talking points whilst simultaneously playing vidya games.

    • @HadalStreetlights
      @HadalStreetlights 5 років тому +4

      Right Wing Talking Points require so little of his cognitive real estate.
      Or he's JUST THAT GOOD at video games.

    • @avenderiel
      @avenderiel 3 роки тому +2

      Right wing talking points are refuted by breathing and having a pulse.

  • @mitchbmx
    @mitchbmx 7 років тому +67

    Shapiro drone

  • @westingtyler1
    @westingtyler1 6 років тому +29

    "life isn't fair." right. that's why it's our job to MAKE it fair. nature and evolution are not fair. but we have brains, and it's our job to MAKE life more fair, to level the playing field.

    • @michaelantonio
      @michaelantonio 4 роки тому +1

      Fairness does NOT mean breaking everyone else's legs because certain people can't walk.

    • @ogzeus2425
      @ogzeus2425 3 роки тому +4

      @@michaelantonio no one said that. It’ll be more like people that can run looking at people who have problems running and saying, maybe instead of just telling them to run correctly, we should educate and teach them about the correct way to do it, not just saying “just run it’s not hard”. Uplifting others in society even if it cost you a little bit of money is better for everyone, Destiny talked about this in future opportunities, growth is good.

  • @michaelgibbons7014
    @michaelgibbons7014 4 роки тому +10

    I grew up in a poor(

  • @elevencyan
    @elevencyan 7 років тому +24

    I like how this guy's voice gets higher and higher along the debate. I guess he's just a kid who's got taught some "values" and refuses to think mommy and daddy can be wrong about anything.

  • @bleach00101
    @bleach00101 5 років тому +25

    “ if we remove the hurdles, they’ll never learn how to jump them”
    So?
    If there are no hurdles why would we care if they can jump them or not?

    • @Detson404
      @Detson404 3 роки тому +2

      It’s an almost religious view. It’s like conservatives think that this life is some sort of morality obstacle course set up by god to test the worthy.

  • @Errr_k
    @Errr_k 5 років тому +14

    The reason this kid didn't know how to respond to the 40k vs 400k analogy is because he doesn't seem to understand the value of a dollar.

  • @teddybruscie
    @teddybruscie 6 років тому +13

    This is the most one sided debate I've ever seen.
    My whole thing is if the guy's only real rebuttal is "Life's Not Fair." He should stick and land on that. Don't try to justify it by saying "You can't give people free shit cause then they'll never learn. People must face the consequences of their actions..." and then admit that well off people don't have to face the same consequences.
    Just say, "I don't give a fuck what people have to go through, life isn't fair. I know it's irational and fucked up but I like to feel superior to others and watch them suffer and I also don't want to compete with poor people who are given the same opportunities as me because I know I was pampered all my life and I'll get obliterated if they were given the opportunities to succeed. And I don't want to compete or live around black people."
    If he said that, I'd have more respect for him and his decisions.

  • @lulutheblackknight1972
    @lulutheblackknight1972 5 років тому +15

    Middle-Class Kid🤔: y do I have to pay taxes to give services to the poor to help them overcome
    Middle-class Kid🤔: please everyone pay taxes so I can have socialized police & fire department ; free roads

  • @DarPower1
    @DarPower1 5 років тому +12

    "I like to live in my world where condoms dont exist"
    Absolutely a virgin.

  • @defb4dishonor211
    @defb4dishonor211 7 років тому +34

    If it's so easy to get ID and the government wants everyone to vote, why don't they supply everyone with IDs.

    • @playboicartiismydad4842
      @playboicartiismydad4842 5 років тому +7

      @@Redportal Birth certificate doesnt have a picture it needs a picture

    • @InhabitantOfOddworld
      @InhabitantOfOddworld 3 роки тому +1

      The sensible solution
      Liberals like destiny just hold their hands up, write off ID as racist and allow the voter fraud that only benefits the left
      Supply everyone with ID and it removes the "poor blacks" argument.

    • @InhabitantOfOddworld
      @InhabitantOfOddworld 3 роки тому +2

      @Toby Pham
      Sure, I don't mind the finer logistics.
      I'm just saying the American Left acts as if paying for ID is a given, and it doesn't have to be. If ID were free, what would be the issue? Their argument over costs and poor blacks would be moot. But I suspect they object not because it's a valid argument but because deeper down, they wish to allow for backdoors into elections.

    • @TheOutgoingClan
      @TheOutgoingClan 3 роки тому

      @@InhabitantOfOddworld There wouldn’t be an issue if IDs were free, that’s why we advocate for it. Voting is a constitutional right and poor people in general can’t afford it taking into account the time it takes as well as cost. If you need an ID to vote, but the government doesn’t subsidize the first one, I think that’s fucked up. So yes, supply everyone with an ID to vote and the “poor people” argument is gone, that’s the point.

    • @InhabitantOfOddworld
      @InhabitantOfOddworld 3 роки тому

      @@TheOutgoingClan
      Yet I've never seen a liberal like Destiny ever concede that. They seem to enjoy unverified voters and the potential for fraud.
      The UK and Australian voter system > the US

  • @johncerasi
    @johncerasi 5 років тому +7

    $20?? I live in NY State and it cost me $80 last time I had to renew my driver's license

  • @louishuang1507
    @louishuang1507 4 роки тому +9

    Why is it that it's always the people who are born into nice rich families are the ones advocate for personal responsibility shit.Says 'You can't just hand people stuff, they won't learn from that' while being handed everything literally everything and advocating for 'personal responsibility'.

  • @Yatsura2
    @Yatsura2 7 років тому +16

    _"I agree, but I disagree! I totally understand what you are saying, but I dont! I support that, but I dont!"_
    60 minutes later
    _"I agree, but I disagree! I totally understand what you are saying, but I dont! I support that, but I dont!"_
    MAKE. UP. YOUR. MIND. ALREADY. JEEEEEEEEEEEEESUS CHRIST.

  • @Darm0k
    @Darm0k 3 роки тому +5

    This guy hasn't thought deeply about his positions at all, he just instinctively hates poor people.

  • @luisbo3
    @luisbo3 5 років тому +10

    “Learn good moral values”. This dude you just found the cure for poverty!

  • @FrogLedood
    @FrogLedood 7 років тому +11

    this guy thinks money grows on trees?
    im in school and work part time 13.50/hr after union fees its about 8/hr
    49.95 for plan B is a whole days wages
    i dont mind because its just a part time job as a student but you got to remember there are people out there working this job as their CAREER.
    thats fucking privilege right there

  • @deftpink9898
    @deftpink9898 7 років тому +8

    Why the fuck do these people keep calling arguments memes? It's so incredibly cringe-inducing.

    • @1000aaronaaronaaron
      @1000aaronaaronaaron 6 років тому

      LFM Jean they're literally memes. Its cringey you dont understand what a meme is.

  • @megax5000
    @megax5000 7 років тому +10

    If liberal democratic policies like welfare are keeping poor people poor, then shouldn't third world countries have the highest rates of upward mobility and the lowest amounts of poverty?
    I'm pretty sure places like Somalia aren't known for their generous safety nets.

    • @joeisawesome540
      @joeisawesome540 5 років тому +1

      @@wetstoffels3198 yea look at Asian countries with no safety net, the upward mobility is also pretty shitty.
      and black people dont have IQ of 75

  • @ThisVideoAnnoyedMe
    @ThisVideoAnnoyedMe 7 років тому +12

    "Yeah, I guess you're right but I can't admit I'm wrong" for an hour.

  • @linusliljequist
    @linusliljequist 4 роки тому +3

    50$ is literally a weeks worth of groceries for me and my girlfriend...
    I live in sweden and i get free education, currently studying in university, and even i realize that 50$ is alot of money for not only some people but for most people.

    • @sweaspurdoddd5466
      @sweaspurdoddd5466 3 роки тому

      Om du sparar 10kr per månad har du lätt råd med ett ID i USA och transport kostnaden för att inskaffa den framtill den förra utgår. Hur kan man ens vara en vuxen utan ett jävla ID asså?!

  • @mcmugget
    @mcmugget 7 років тому +39

    This guy plays hearthstone you can't explain to him a hard work meme. That game is very low on the skill side and extremely extremely high on the pay to win side. The struggles of being rich buying every card and net decking all day long boohoo

  • @warmlycalculated390
    @warmlycalculated390 7 років тому +15

    Nailed it, Steven. Thanks again for being one of the few who makes my Alma Mater (prep) proud! :)

  • @firudu
    @firudu 6 років тому +6

    "50$ isnt much" wtf thats groceries for a week

  • @SymphonyEternally
    @SymphonyEternally 7 років тому +16

    Wow Destiny makes a lot of very salient points, very impressed and hopefully that kid learned a little bit.

    • @michaelantonio
      @michaelantonio 4 роки тому +1

      Destiny is one dimensional. Hopefully, he will grow & learn.

  • @bristlepine8508
    @bristlepine8508 7 років тому +16

    I know this guy. He goes by fishy in the HS community. Nothing he says should be taken seriously. Troll 100%.

  • @Remoth000
    @Remoth000 3 роки тому +2

    "If you remove the hurdles, the people won't learn how to jump over them"
    If you remove the hurdles, they won't NEED to jump over them!! Thats the point!

  • @billtalent1
    @billtalent1 7 років тому +26

    this kid is actually just arguing for the sake of arguing, he's just blindly disagreeing with everything destiny says

  • @saltymemes1037
    @saltymemes1037 7 років тому +5

    "Wow Destiny you calling these people to stupid to be able to get I.D".... 15 secs later "I dont think you should be able to vote if you cant even go out and get a simple I.D"

  • @spammcspam
    @spammcspam 7 років тому +12

    This was more like a class than a discussion.

  • @mcmugget
    @mcmugget 7 років тому +11

    Fishy "I have poor friends" seems like familiar meme. I wonder why. Lul

  • @MysterySchoolMS
    @MysterySchoolMS 7 років тому +20

    Ive been waiting for this one to get uploaded. This shit was fucking gold.

  • @Rainebowes
    @Rainebowes 6 років тому +3

    My parents are lower middle class and ive been on my own for about 5 years now.
    I can ask for my parents for money bc they dont make enough to help me.
    I do not have a way to get a car easily. The state i live in has mandatory insurance and terrible roads. This makes owning a car extremely expensive. At a $20,000 a year, it may not be as viable if i have a kid or debt or whatever and i cant get a better job.

  • @ImMikeyBallinBitch
    @ImMikeyBallinBitch 7 років тому +14

    YOU CAN'T JUST THROW MONEY AT A PROBLEM! Gee, I'd love to ask him how he feels about Afghanistan.

    • @megax5000
      @megax5000 7 років тому +3

      Or tax cuts for the rich.

    • @WoeWasMe
      @WoeWasMe 4 роки тому

      Should be to take the troops out. Bring our bois home

  • @weirdo3116
    @weirdo3116 5 років тому +14

    41:07 love how this dude is acting like $50 is no big deal when even me, a guy living with his parents who gets basically free money from them, still struggles to spend $30 cause I think that's spending too much .

  • @fograw5
    @fograw5 6 років тому +3

    "I didnt know there was poor people until i was 11 or 12" hahaha holy shit!

  • @MysLed
    @MysLed 4 роки тому +2

    The dude who believes that 'wearing a condom is the sole responsibility of the womans' problem with trying to understand this is simply because he has no idea that for a group of Americans living in today's world, that to even just find an extra $25 is a lot of money.

  • @SUPREMEdiver33
    @SUPREMEdiver33 7 років тому +20

    'Life is unfairrrrrrr'

  • @DavidSmith-wp6wx
    @DavidSmith-wp6wx 5 років тому +4

    "Personal responsibility," " handout stuff for free" and "life isn't fair, dude." This one hit every conservative meme. Nothing exceptional here.

  • @Sw0rdnBoard
    @Sw0rdnBoard 5 років тому +5

    "Should we not have people drive to the polls?"
    Yes, in Oregon we vote by mail.

    • @55blackty
      @55blackty 2 роки тому

      AND IN THAT FUCKING BILL IN NC THEY CUT THE FUCKING TIME TO MAIL IN YOUR VOTE BY A WEEK!!!

  • @ericsmith116
    @ericsmith116 4 роки тому +2

    "Ive never had to wear a condom" but also why don't we just give them condoms. SOOO you don't use it but let's expect these ppl to use it.

  • @sk8ersteve
    @sk8ersteve 3 роки тому +3

    In surprised Destiny didn’t call out this circular argument. People need to take responsibility because life isn’t fair. Life isn’t fair because people need to take responsibility.

  • @lulutheblackknight1972
    @lulutheblackknight1972 5 років тому +2

    Rich kid🤔: No Bullshit is stupid
    Rich kid🤔: I use different words to arrive at same conclusion as No BullShit

  • @angelparrilla2068
    @angelparrilla2068 3 роки тому +3

    "Its an extra precaution"
    So is wearing a helmet wherever the fuck you go, doesnt mean you need it.

    • @takeshikovach5165
      @takeshikovach5165 3 роки тому

      Yeah, but accidents do happen, it's demonstrated, so you put helmet.
      If it wasn't happening there wouldn't be an requirement.
      They did happen in the past, happens now, that's why we use precaution.
      Idiot.
      Voter fraud hasn't been demonstrated to be a problem, where it occurs it is usually investigated and gets easily caught.

    • @takeshikovach5165
      @takeshikovach5165 3 роки тому

      And we already use ballots specially to make sure machine isn't involved since there problem occurs.
      You don't think about precautions when certain things don't happen. Like you're a child.
      If road accidents were not happening in America, all Americans are responsible drivers, why would you even think about precaution?

    • @angelparrilla2068
      @angelparrilla2068 3 роки тому

      @@takeshikovach5165 its the equivalent of saying a seat belt isnt enough. You need a 5 point harness and crash helmet along with a roll cage in your car, because car accidents is what Im saying.

    • @takeshikovach5165
      @takeshikovach5165 2 роки тому

      @@angelparrilla2068 so we shouldn't put unnecessary road blocks to voting. There you go, you made my argument for me. We put safety when problem happens.

    • @angelparrilla2068
      @angelparrilla2068 2 роки тому

      @@takeshikovach5165 are you stupid or are you dictating while you type so you can hear yourself? Cause that wasnt your point at all, your point was wear a helmet in a car instead of trusting the seat belt thats there already.

  • @timluo55
    @timluo55 3 роки тому +2

    I know this was 3 years ago, but holy shit... a commenter said it right. His parents shouldn't help him so he could learn how to jump over the 'hurdles', I mean how else is he going to learn IF his parents remove all the hurdles for him?
    Being poor shouldn't mean having cereal for dinner...

  • @kambion
    @kambion 5 років тому +3

    I love how he starts with telling you not to yell, and then yells for the entire video

  • @onyx8231
    @onyx8231 5 років тому +1

    Giving people the _"tools to succeed,"_ is much different than:
    "Giving people EVERYTHING!"
    Basic food, contraception, and education is not _"EVERYTHING."_

  • @LayZKimochi420BlazeIt
    @LayZKimochi420BlazeIt 7 років тому +82

    what a bad title considering thats the discussion for a whole 5 minutes

    • @thorguy2515
      @thorguy2515 7 років тому +12

      Just because he isn't saying VOTER ID LAW, BLACK PEOPLE every sentence dosn't mean that the discussion isn't on the same subject.

    • @jayt7178
      @jayt7178 5 років тому +1

      Thorguy exactly. The voter ID discussion led to the root of its cause (in a conservatives mind, anyways) which is believed by some to be the fault, or the lack of personal responsibility on the part of the voter, not the members of Government Who passed the legislation targeting said voters in the first place. It’s victim blaming 101. It’s essentially like blaming a grown person who was raped as a child for still having trauma from the situation and telling them to “take personal responsibility” for yourself and your situation. Even if the responsibility is not on that person. And there you have the boot straps meme in a nut shell. It’s victim blaming.

  • @somed214
    @somed214 7 років тому +2

    "You can't just throw money at a problem! On an unrelated note, Mom, I need you to transfer more money to my checking account so I can buy food. Oh, you already sent it? No, I mean I need more than that. Ok, where was I? Oh right, I was explaining how money doesn't really solve problems...""

  • @GoadedGoblin
    @GoadedGoblin 7 років тому +16

    He pretty much crushed this dude by 8 minutes in. Excellent.

  • @YemYum
    @YemYum 4 роки тому +1

    Every time someone says "life isnt fair" as an argument against universal contraception or whatever, just say "oh so why would we punish murderers then? life isnt fair dude. no reason to try and improve society in any way because life is always unfair."
    this dude is so ungodly privileged its insane. He legitimately cant comprehend how 50 bucks is alot of money a month. He cant understand why its hard for a poor person to go to college. He has been pampered his entire life and thinks that he has earned anything.

  • @sheajohnson6310
    @sheajohnson6310 5 років тому +7

    49:26 kid legit takes 10 seconds and has nothing to say as his ideology crumbles before his own eyes.
    Brilliant.

  • @tyalprince
    @tyalprince 4 роки тому +1

    *Says a woman is irresponsible for not buying condemns or contraception*
    *Then wants to then force her to take care of a child*
    Makes sense!

  • @weirdo3116
    @weirdo3116 7 років тому +10

    45:00 wait, you have to punish them more for being born into a bad situation?

  • @SalaciousCrmb
    @SalaciousCrmb 4 роки тому +1

    Holy shit, this kid is the definition of privilege. My family does pretty well, a HHI over 200k, and I had to get a replacement ID two weeks ago; it cost $39.00. I was pretty pissed about how expensive it was so imagine a single mom, barely scraping by that has to shell out $39. Privileged people have ZERO empathy.

  • @snooglers
    @snooglers 3 роки тому +3

    45:59 finally he was honest about how he’s felt the whole time

  • @YemYum
    @YemYum 4 роки тому +1

    "Yo dude why did you just murder that guy? Couldnt you have just not done that?"
    "Life isnt fair dude."
    "Wait that dosent address the issue at ha-"
    "YOU CANT EXPECT EVERYTHING TO BE FAIR DUDE CMON"
    "...."

  • @ogracer
    @ogracer 7 років тому +3

    "You don't have to scream at me"
    hey man relax LUL

  • @504hotboi5
    @504hotboi5 11 місяців тому +1

    The problem is that Destiny just don't understand how much cheaper it is for rich people to say "personal responsibility"

  • @salsam0de
    @salsam0de 7 років тому +4

    I don't know how Destiny gives this kid an hour; he's barely worth the UA-cam comment.

  • @tw1339
    @tw1339 6 років тому +2

    The way this guys speaks is frustrating. He knows he's wrong but won't shut up.

  • @Lius525
    @Lius525 7 років тому +4

    "I am like a pretty well known Hearthstone memer" when that's your claim to fame. #SuperiorCulture

  • @gurugasch
    @gurugasch 5 років тому +2

    52:15 It's completely delusional to think that anyone can work hard enough to earn $1.5mil per year through pure merit in the USA.

  • @snowballeffect7812
    @snowballeffect7812 7 років тому +3

    this kid can't think more than 2 steps ahead. how can anyone who sounds like they've been through puberty still sound this naive?

  • @jeremyp3116
    @jeremyp3116 5 років тому +1

    He says poor people should “take responsibility “ as if they had any control over how they were born

  • @haydenb5258
    @haydenb5258 3 роки тому +2

    I could hear his seething hatred for women when he said "if this stupid bitch" at 42:58 .

  • @paulkerrigan9857
    @paulkerrigan9857 3 роки тому +2

    Poor people just need to stop whining and work 800 hours per week. It's not that hard, just get a time machine.

  • @vargonian
    @vargonian 7 років тому +4

    I really like listening to Destiny debate, except when he went all sociopath on Vegan Gains.

  • @MysticalBlueRse
    @MysticalBlueRse 5 років тому +1

    I think it was a failure to not point out that poor people work hard as hell. Plenty work multiple hours, have to figure out how to do tons of shit on their own because they can go buy what the need or pay for a service.
    Poor people have to do mental gymnastics just to make sure there is enough money to last until the next paycheck.
    I remember my dad not even coming home sometimes because he was working all night on cars, because he needed to get it done to get enough money to pay for food.
    Poor people don’t typically have desk jobs, they are standing on their feet all day. They are running around all day. They are carrying heavy shit all day. How do they not work hard?!
    “We’re running in circles” that’s because you refuse to learn shit. You can’t comprehend.

  • @justinching6113
    @justinching6113 7 років тому +6

    This guy switches between super confident and aggressive then goes into super submissive fan mode like 100x here

  • @D3adfac3
    @D3adfac3 Рік тому +1

    I just imagine this kid at age 11 seeing his poor friend’s bedroom for the first time and going:
    “Well it sucks that you were born into a poor family s-s-shure but you need to take responsibility and just like make the right like choices and then you can get an xbox like me. I don’t want to be handing stuff out to you because like then you won’t take responsibility like me”