One can only dread the day an official fallout is set Portland, Detroit, or New Jersey. Though if there must be a fallout set in Michigan I hope we can go to Hell. It’ll probably be safer than Detroit.
Far Harbor: We wanted to try telling an expanded story that is very insightful to especially one of our most famous unique companions Nick Valentine Nuka World: UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! I guess people want to be evil? Also take a magical ghoul npc because the fanbase likes ghouls. No they're not a companion because they are not a raider guy
The first 3 DLCs were forshadowing the eventual direction the series would go in for Fallout 4 and 76. In other words, bare minimum plot, shitty characters, shitty choices, et cetera et cetera.
@barricadedpurifier I get the point but at the same time a game that's not about aliens but is about space travel has to have aliens in it or there's going to be some kinda belly aching involved....Intelligent or not the species found on other planets are in all intents and purposes alien.
I'm conflicted on Mothership Zeta, I agree that it's a step too far, but I'm a sucker for anything alien related. The problem I think is that Bethesda can't decide whether the Zetans are a serious and ominous threat, or just wacky enemies for us to turn into pincushions.
As a kid there playing fallout 3 I gotta say it was PITT, Anchorage, Steel, Zeta, then Lookout for me I honestly enjoyed the stupid like side characters like a fuckin samurai in Zeta lol It was a ridiculous DLC but as a kid I found the inbred mutant hillbillies to be 10x more cringe than stereotypical aliens.
Its a bit of both and I think theyre balanced well. What isnt balanced well is the enemy diversity, where everything is either a zetan, a turret, or a robot. By the time the abominations come in youre almost done with the dlc and they barely show back up again after theyre introduced
@@stm7810 Those are easter eggs, to give us a few breaks from the harsh world. The crashed UFO is mentioned to be property of Area 51. Its label adds "Return if found." and you can find a Velvet Elvis in one of the supposedly alien remains.
Interestingly enough what you understood from Wernher's side isn't the full story. See, he really doesn't care about the slaves. He doesn't care about the cure. All he cares about is himself. One of the developers behind A Tale of Two Wastelands confirmed this after scouring through FO3's dialogue as is required for the development of the mod, and found out interesting tidbits about his behavior. For the cues the VA was given for his dialogue, he needed to sound quite slimy, never really meaning what he meant. When talking about Marie, he just doesn't care about her well-being at all. He mentions things about how the cure extraction would go faster if the complainers didn't worry about harming "the little squirt", caring little about her well-being. He even says that once the cure has been extracted the slaves (which he still calls slaves despite the whole fighting for not being a slave) can take care of her, effectively turning Marie into a slave in the process. He doesn't even care about Midea, stating "You'd think an old slave like her would know how to work without raising a fuss, right?". This is not the marks of someone that fights for equality. Hell, the slaves mention how not much has changed when he became leader. In fact it's still the same old system of slavers telling slaves to do hard work, except now the leader has no prospects for the future. The real reason Wernher wanted Ashur gone is because he was kicked down a peg from the hierarchy and now wants revenge by killing his boss and asserting his "rightful" position on the throne of the Pitt instead of merely being second fiddle. He had no benevolent intentions to begin with. With that in mind, this changes the premise of the Pitt's ending choices. You have Ashur: a man who has done a lot of bad and forced people to work in the Pitt as slaves, in the hopes of a better future for all its inhabitants and especially his daughter. He is no saint, but the Pitt wouldn't have civilization without him: just trogs lashing at anything that moves in one of the most barren hellscapes of the wasteland. On the other hand, you have Wernher: an opportunist who manipulates people so that he can have superiority over others, even as the smallest embers of what could potentially be civilization die out around him. Doesn't matter, he gets to lord over people as those said people's chances for a better life cease to be, fooled by the illusion that things might get better. Ashur somehow ends up technically being "the morally good choice" in all of this despite being a slaver, which kinda shows how messed up the Pitt is given that it's a place that's in such horrible conditions that no conventional good can help it become hospitable. That's the real magic of the Pitt, and combined with somehow making the dirty FO3 textures work thanks to lighting and being the Pitt, makes it the closest Bethesda got to making Fallout feel like Fallout should: imperfect human civilizations attempting to shape the future in a desolate land. Too bad they only had that spark for just that one moment before kinda being confused in which direction to take Point Lookout, then all the other DLCs. Also Broken Steel kinda annoys me in the sense that it introduces the spongiest of the spongiest enemies to the base game, and they just flood the entire map by endgame. I swear if I have to fight another Albino Radscorpion or Super Mutant Overlord with DR ignoring flat damage tri-beams I will lose it. Actually I kinda did, hence why I really need to be bored to even boot up FO3 these days. Still beats playing Mothership Zeta with the whole war caused by aliens and the inertia fields. Oh those damn inertia fields.
If anything though I think it's a good thing that the story-telling of the Pitt can be so up for interpretation. Fallout should have nuanced moral choices, again the fact that Ashur is the best choice but players can choose to side with Wernher is great, because it's so distinctly human. It's absolutely the wrong choice but the player is still allowed to make it regardless of if it's correct or not because not everything is meant to go right and well in the wasteland, there's not always going to be proper justice for "good" people. It's player freedom in the truest sense. Such a shame that it happens so rarely in Bethesda games
The bleakness of the Pitt makes a lot of sense if you know where Bethesda got their inspiration from. The story (as well as some of the weapons and armor you can get) are callbacks to "Escape from New York", where the main character is forced to help people that are barely better than the violent criminals he is pitted against
I cant remember who, but one of the outcasts who you speak to before entering the sim mentions that all the safety protocols are off, meaning if you die in the simulation you’ll go into cardiac arrest. This implies the simulation has safety protocols that were probably used by soldiers training for combat. Why they were turned off, however, escapes me.
The **Fallout 3** DLCs were released in the following order: 1. **Operation: Anchorage** (Released January 2009) 2. **The Pitt** (Released March 2009) 3. **Broken Steel** (Released May 2009) 4. **Point Lookout** (Released June 2009) 5. **Mothership Zeta** (Released August 2009) This is also the correct order to play in canonically.
@@LeleiTheTigress Not unless you wait until beating the base game before tackling the DLC. As far as I remember, there’s nothing forcing them into a certain canon order.
9:18 You using meme wrong, you supposed to LOSE social credit for destroying chyna tank, minus 1 million social credit and get +15 social credit for shooting the soldiers that are your allies
5:29 the outcasts tell you before entering the simulation that the safety protocols on the pod got damaged. It wasn’t intended to kill its user, but after 200 years and being fixed up by people who don’t fully understand it, the pod is glitchy. Dumb, but with a somewhat fair setup, and shoots down your entire rant about the US military troops having this experience. You are directly told that such was not their experience before starting. I haven’t played in years and I remember, you just played. I like what you’re doing but it’s a given that an attention to detail is expected if you’re going to make a video like this
Not gonna lie, as a Maryland resident I am still SO salty that they made a DLC about fucking Pittsburgh but not Baltimore. You cannot make that make sense.
Bro, I loved the Pitt, it was awesome and my only problem is that it was too short. Exploring Point Lookout was also awesome with just not that good of a story. MZ OA and BS all felt boring and I couldn’t agree more. Earned a sub
31:20 at least with Megaton the choice is which player home you’d prefer, nuking the Citadel is actually completely pointless other than the tick on the checklist for a completionist.
For a first time player it’s not at all. One doesn’t even know they’re going to get a player home, and even if they did somehow they wouldn’t know the pros and cons from each when making the decision. Player homes are only in the thought process bc the game has been out for almost 20 years and we know every reward for every quest lol
I would say The Pitt is greater than F3, and Far Harbour is greater than F4... the DLC collectively from Bethesda is cohesive with world-building tone, themes and storytelling in a way in the main stories of F3 and F4 respectively (outside of occassional quests) just, aren't.. I feel the expansiveness of Bethesda/Bethesda's games are very much in tandem with their slow decline in quality since 2005.
How I HATED that Fallout 3 and NV Gauss-Rifle! Seriously, BADthesda what is wrong with you? We had the M72 (which is now available as a mod for NV and Fallout 4 and is in Fallout London, too) Gauss Rifle, which is a magazine-fed Gauss-Rifle of German origin, so why have one in the game which has to be reloaded after every shot? I mean sorry, 'Muricans in Fallout maybe gung-ho nutters, but they would still not make such a dumb weapon!
If i remeber correctly fallout 3 the bullets dont come out of the barrel. They come out if the crosshairs, while new vegas the bullets come out barrel. I forgot where i learned this, but i could be wrong
(Warning: Mucho texto) General Jinwei is like Fallout 3's Legate Lanius. lol I thought Operation Anchorage with a combat realism mod I found to be pretty enjoyable where everyone (Player included) die to 1-2 shots, kept the gunfights tense and avoided getting too stale. But yeah, vanilla game, it really drags on with how spongey the enemies are, though I'm certain you could get beefier weapons for taking out the Chimera tanks. I'm with you on those Alien workers, aside from what we see what they've already done to the human captives on the ship, who knows what other Godforsaken things they've done to people in the past, I'm not letting any of them live, purge the alien! Gameplay wise I thought it was a bit more boring than Op Anchorage, but the gear was nice once the DLC was done. I wish there would of been more RP options for Broken Steel, but I think the problem was making the game continue after the ending since they kill off/ write Autumn and Eden out of the story, and we don't have any other major characters in the Enclave, any new villain would feel out of the blue since they had no build up in the base game. Loved Point Lookout, this was the DLC that felt like a true expansion pack like older games, and could easily have been it's own Fallout game if it were made like New Vegas was, using Fallout 3's assets and expanding on them. Also nice comparison with Harold and Calvert, never saw the similarities between the two like that. One gun you forgot to mention that I loved from Point Lookout was the Perforator, I'd consider it easily the best assault rifle in the entire game if you enjoy playing stealthy. As far as the quest for the Pitt goes, while I hate slavery, keeping them in power does seem like the genuinely best option considering Asher's wife seems to be the only competent person who could feasibly cure the people of the Pitt of the mutations. And getting rid of them doesn't seem to actually liberate the slaves at all as they just keep working when all is said and done. I have to agree with you that the Pitt is probably one of the best expansions, really cool lore, too! It's rather interesting how 3 of the DLCs do have some relations to the BOS in some way or another. I have to admit I went into this video initially thinking you'd be like that one dude that made an 8 fucking hour long video of Fallout 3 response video and hating the game from top to bottom and not trying to see why some people might like the game and conveniently leaving out the DLCs in regards to the game as a whole, so I'm happily surprised your video wasn't that. I don't agree with all your points but I'm glad we have common ground in that there's enjoyable content in Fallout 3's DLC, and I will agree at the end of the day that your overall point of the video that this game's DLCs are indeed inconsistent. Great video, BcheezySon!
You can really tell while playing that Bethesda were trying to find their footing with DLC’s. You have an array of different types: Linear (OA), Linear with a bit of exploration (MZ), Open World Map (PL), Contained Map (The Pitt) and simple game extensions (BS). Then people loved PL/The Pitt, so we get Nuka World, Far Harbor and FO76 Expeditions.
0:29 And it wasn't. Not sure why you expected an online multiplayer Fallout to be a good idea, it just was a bad idea from start. 😅 I'm still hoping modders can one day salvage 76 cuz the map itself looks fire, it just needs tons of singleplayer mods to add proper sidequests(the one Bethesda added are boring)
Fallout 3 was my first. My dad got it for a birthday and i just happened to play it on xbox. I think i was ten when i played it. I didn't play fallout 1 until this year. I enjoyed it. I will go back to play a complete playthrough. And actually finish the game
Should've looked up Orccorp, Ceado Genesis, or some other content creators before you played. The best thing about Op AL is the Gary 23 glitch where you can get most of the Winterized weapons, combat armor, and Jingwei's jumpsuit (best armor for the weight in the whole game) brought back to the capital wasteland. Not to mention nearly unlimited ammo.
Great video! I will admit I always liked Anchorage and Mothership Zeta but looking back I think I was just happy to have something new to play on my Fallout game but Mothership zeta I played it a year ago, man it was mentally a struggle. Completely agree with you though, I need to play Anchorage for a project of mine and I'm not looking forward to it especially after you reminded me why I haven't played it since it damn near came out lol. Love your commentary too btw damn good listen too even if I'm at work and cant watch what you are talking about exactly.
Pretty sure the Outcasts said that the safety protocols are malfunctioning for Anchorage which is why they can't turn them off. Before the Nukes, that wasn't the case 😂
@@captain_fruitcake101 You are not understanding what im trying to say: the safety protocols are a solution to a problem that doesn't need to exist. What is the point of designing a training machine that can terminate the person using it? Why would anyone ever design such a feature in the first place?
I am no Bethesda glazer but I have a certain Nostalgia for the game that 4 can't provide because I was actually entertained by the simple point and shoot gameplay, I hated how Broken Steel was simply only that, but Mothership Zeta had a interesting and kinda scary atmosphere, especially outside the ship, where it's only your breaths keeping you company as you watch the void. Operation Anchorage was my first Experience with fallout so I was hooked off the fact that there was a civil war with the group of a-holes that branched off because of a civil war.
If you kill people in video game you become The Hunter from Starfield, so Bethesda philosophy actually checks out here "How you mess up going to spave?" Have you played Starfield? xD xD xD
I mean, be careful what you wish for. Fallout frontier attempted to make the "better" mothership zeta like space experience and we all know how that ended up lmao
18:54 There was one channel that defended Mothership Zeta but then Creetosis and his crew just slam dunked that video 😂. I mean seriously Zeta is that bad of a DLC, that it has 1-2 defenders on YT 😅
Personally I'll always look at Fallout 3 through rose tinted glasses, it was my first RPG I played when I was 14 and it got me into the genre, it's definitely not the best RPG ever but I think with the context when it came out RPGs weren't selling the way action FPS games were and so Fallout 3 was definitely dilluted to try to capture two audiences. Fallout NV is definitely streets ahead of it but I understand why Fallout 3 was way more loose with it's RPG elements. Tried to be safe and target a wider audience and the best parts of Fallout suffered because of it in the end.
11:08 Sounds like Bethesda is part of the same philosophy as the Undertale dev. But seriously I think its just a quirk of Bethesda's game engine. That things runs off of black magic.
You know I used to hate the repair mechanic in fo3/NV. After fallout4 and 76 I really miss it. The green filter too honestly. Also really don’t get the Mothership Zeta hate. It’s a fun romp and you get an arsenal of fun weapons. It’s kind of a live letter to 50’s/60’s alien invasion movies.
i like how you played fallout 3 and not ttw, ttw is good dont get me wrong but new vegas changed a decent bit to the games balance with vats and and how chems work with introducing doc bags ,ammo types , hardcore mode and a more intense crafting system.
i would also like to say you can beat op Anchorage within 40 mins tops. its not a hard dlc but is very very blahh. only reason to play it is the power armor training and the power armor
another thing id say about zeta, you get alot of ammo for the alien rayguns. other than that its a shit dlc that you should skip: if youre really wanna play it dont break the scripting the dlc will just break and you wont be able to finish it without starting the entire dlc all over before you get abducted
point lookout is pretty fun untill the tribal part in the manner. after that it becomes a boring slog with shooting jebadia or clint with bubba fud doplebarral
DAMN bro, you played Pitt and Point lookout first? that is rough since they are probably the best OF f3 dlc AND the most lore friendly. Point lookout was phucking legendary.
That's kinda the point bro, you get a new area not the same fucking thing copy and paste. You get to go to space, a airbase, Pittsburgh, and a swamp, the dlc wouldn't really be as good if it was just all city expansions that look the same to Washington with the metro and all that.
Im playing this for the first time and i believe it has the most realistic and brutal world building. Fallout 4 is really cartoony compared and nv is just shacks everywhere other than the city. I adore fallout 3 so far but 4 will always be my fav bc of the gunplay
The thing that makes it hard to side with Ashur is that, despite presenting himself as a the-end-justify-the-means pragmatic kinda of guy, his handling of slavery is so unnecessarily cruel to the point of being silly. I don't know, maybe im misremembering things cuz it has been more than 10 years since i last played The Pitt, but was it **really** necessary to put slaves through gladiatorial bloodsport games? lmao
I don't think the hostile US soldiers was caused by your shenanigans in the camp. This happened to me once when I decided to fight Jingwei. Funny thing is they kept attacking me even after he was dead and General Chase had appeared. At a glance I'd figure it's a scripting or faction problem. I also wouldn't put the whole KYS speech option down entirely to Fallout's US military having f-ed up ideas. Being defeated in combat by an enemy one considers to be inferior is pretty intolerable in many of those cultures. Granted it's not the same country but is a fellow communist dictatorship next door: North Korean SF troops actually offed themselves after an infiltration into the South rather than face capture. Getting prodded in your own language by a Westerner is also a bit much for Jingwei here, (the Lone Wanderer apparently speaks Mandarin, which is why he/she understands Jingwei and can respond to him as well as knowing what the Chinese Remnants are saying). Frankly the PRC in reality makes the Fallout US seem tame by comparison in terms of how they treat their own people and comport themselves militarily.
I just liked Mothership Zeta: not too much, but i like any alien media, and this was both hilarious and creative like you said to see how they actually existed for so long as pre-Edo period Japan. But i never understood if they were meant to be funny green man or Avengers level threat. Also, fuck those Abominations, they give me the creeps every time
i was really weirded out by putting broken steel with other dlcs considering that it is the only dlc that you have to beat the game for first oh and here's a funny thing - bethesda is so incompetent that no matter which difficulty you play on, majority of dlc enemies are bullet sponges like those hillbilly inbreds in point lookout, albino radscorpions, feral ghoul reavers, supermutant overlords... just for "balance" i guess operation anchorage is so painful, i know the main defense of the dlc but not even the most hardcore boot fucked soldier would program other soldiers to speak like that the fact that bethesda thought it worthy of intelligence 6 to notice that simulation isn't real but not to actually be smart enough to mess with simulation is terrible bethesda's terrible writing is even more visible here, you go to talk with GENERAL alone, like damn boy vaseline much? and that over the top "diiiiiiiiiissmiiiiiiiiisssed!" it's not funny, it's not satire, it's terrible literally entire dlc idea is full of call of duty and battlefield winks and nudges only they are terrible and everything that happens makes virtually and physically no sense oh and the dlc lacks the option to be ultra smart character and just hack the shit out of the terminal to get the armor which is funny because you can kill all the outcasts and do the simulation anyway but bethesda was never good at making anything so you can't willingly skip this masterfully crafted piece of gaming also it's hilarious that bethesda not only has ruined the lore but also didn't fucking google it because how the fuck are soldiers supposed to be trained in simulation of battle of anchorage and succesfully beat china's ass WHEN THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL JANUARY 2077 - so the same year bombs fell america has taken anchorage, deployed power armors to shut down riots AND get a fully blown training simulation about latest war to train it's soldiers, wow just wow mothership zeta is something that should be either actual simulation or a theme park with robots and synths outsde of tons of alien epoxy that repairs your weapon this dlc is completely worthless broken steel is... the inactive purifier that was gathering dust for 200 years first builds up pressure and deadly radiation but somehow purifies entire water on the wasteland... what point lookout is one quest of petty rivalry between a ghoul and a brain in a jar - you physically have no reason to help either other than being a greedy bastard and because quest marker said to go there also that god awful quest for chinese spy which i am convinced was was set to fail because dumbass vault dweller can somehow break chinese encryption there's also no reason to do this quest and it's end is atrocious, china has build a gas chamber under ancient mansion without disturbing the ground just to kill one of their spies? and why is chinese intel recorded in english? also also how does the computer know that you actually did your missions and why is it operational after 200 years and then the only reason this dlc was created i'm sure - the unmarked at first quest with evil book that has to be taken to the most unusable location in capital wasteland - dunwich building oh hey doesn't broken steel also force player to got here? it's like they got complaints that this place was fucking useless so they decided to put 2 quests there the pitt is terrible >hey slave work or i'll beat your ass >holy crap slave you killed toughest raiders you are not a slave anymore >so friend now that you joined me and are not a slave anymore how about you get opportunity to backstab everyone other than doing dlcs for weapons i don't see any actual value in them they add nothing of substance and they provide absolutely no expansion for base game broken steel is literally - "we know you hated the ending so here's 5 more quests that retcon the ending" mothership zeta - every single alien movie cliche only from wish and i know that nobody ever comes back to the ship point lookout - honestly there's way too many themes it's just stupid, evil book is evil operation anchorage - we tried copying call of duty but don't even have a proper shooting mechanic
@@LucyWest370 Wonder where I heard that from then. I swear I remembered Sally saying the other aliens treat them badly and force them to work, but I haven't played that dlc in years
@tnogaming6903 it’s just he never calls the battle of Hoover dam a cod Mission, but calls the broken hearts battle a cod mission. NV is great but the fans glaze it way too much.
@@KCbricks21I agree. I think both games have pros and cons, and while I personally believe that New Vegas is an objectively better game, Fallout 3 remains my favorite because of its atmosphere and writing along with the exploration and stories. (And before someone says it, no fallout 3 wasnt my first, my first was new vegas.)
@@KCbricks213 has a lot more combat focused dlcs/missions than NV so I think thats why. The battle of hoover dam is the finale to New Vegas and isn’t hyper focusing on combat missions often so I think thats where the comparison comes from
@@desko2041 Fallout 3 has really good writing for the characters and has a more SET story for the lone wanderer, believe it or not. Faction writing is not perfect at all, But yeah combat focus was not a good choice for fallout 3 DLCs. But point lookout and the pit have great writing and world building/ worlds. But it feels like this guy just constantly shits on any Bethesda made property, if he would atleast be as critical to new Vegas and fallout 1/ 2 as he is to Bethesda fallout this comment would never have been made. But still I respect everyone being respectful in this conversation.
Fallout 4 was horrible, kept waiting for the game to get better but it was bland. The ship on the skyscraper was about the only fun thing to happen. The voice is a death mark on role-playing, not to mention the utter lack of dialogue. You either inquire, ask for more, agree, or say something a little cheeky.... amazing role-playing game, lemme tell ya. You should've started at 3. You have no idea how much Fallout 4 kills environment, gritty wasteland to a bubbly color popping bulbous environment. It's so sad....
Never have I ever seen such bad takes… I am not sure how you made it through FO1 without a more serious and nuanced look at the world of Fallout. You can’t go through The Spy quest in PL without thinking, HUH they tried to kill me, bad game. Maybe the point is telling us what the Chinese were like, as bad as the US. Crazy takes all over bro
Fallout 3 was the third FO game I played and it is the worst FO I've played. The base game was dogshit and the DLC was somehow worse aside from The Pit.
I thought Mothership Zeta was great, then I saw it without mods and winced so hard, where's the horror, the story, the cool sci fi stuff? why aren't you naked and afraid? the only reason to blow up the citadel is to prevent Fallout 4. I chose calvert as the lesser evil of cultural genocide vs literal genocide. was happy I got to kill both, rest of the DLC was boring. to Paraphrase Mr Waternoose, I would kidnap a thousand children if it would end slavery. If I wanted to enjoy Fallout 4 gameplay I'd install xilandros mods, which I did.
There is a lot of good horror in mz, but unfortunately no “naked and afraid.” They return your gear back to you way too quickly so scavenging alien equipment or captured human equipment becomes a non factor which really hurts its atmosphere in my opinion.
@@LucyWest370 yeah, the Cinemoded fallout patches and I think some of Sweet six shooters mods fix that, JAM fixes the gunplay through it being TTW, and stewies tweaks generally does the rest.
I thought that sane fallout fans died out. I heard people glazing mothership zets so much to often to be a meme, I hope this was just ragebebait for awful new vegas fans
"i played a later instalment of a franchise and the other ones suck now because of it" Bro your comparing a game to another game that has 7 years difference between them...next you're going to compare Doom 93 to Doom Eternal. It would be more relevant to compare F3 to New Vegas and just be 1 of 35 different active content creators thats already touched on the subject.
I love the pitt, its just too short and the ingot collecting quest is incredibly stupid for that generation of gaming. The choice you make feels like it has actual moral weight for once
Speaking of CallOfDuty and fallout. Does anyone else hear ever think about the incredible missed opportunity of call of duty franchise crossover games? Like COD started running out of ideas when the future warfare era started and ever since then it’s been a struggle session with a couple partial exceptions. Imagine if you will that Activision had secured partnership deals with other properties similar to what they’ve been doing recently but with whole games. Imagine an entire CoD set in the Fallout universe during the last days of the resource wars with a massive nuclear war set peace in the middle and the later half of the game be several jank battles in the ravaged nuclear hell of a burning America that covers your transition from special operations to Enclave shut in. Could be pretty cool and realistically everything you need is there wether they’re making a more traditional CoD or a more recent style one. Plenty of weapons to work with, power armor unit could serve as the juggernaut, virtabird chopper gunners and gunships, Stingray bombing runs, mini nuke killstreak. And not only fallout but they could do other franchises like Terminator. A CoD set in the Terminator post judgment day war would be sick too!
Yeah fallout 3 suffered roughly from trying to translate a bunch of 2d sprites to a 3d open world space. People knock it for not being able to side with the enclave but fallout 2 didnt give you that choice either. Fallout 3 was a lot of firsts in trying to find its footing and figure out how to adapt the game, and new vegas improved on it. (Too bad 4 just forgot that and went back to square negative one tho)
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Fallout 3 dlc: we're going to space
Also fallout 3 dlc: were going to Pittsburgh.
Funny enough Pittsburgh is worse weird how that works.
21:09 Hahahaha 😂😂😂 you said "talk tuah"
@@tajemniczycien2271talk tuah on that thing
One can only dread the day an official fallout is set Portland, Detroit, or New Jersey.
Though if there must be a fallout set in Michigan I hope we can go to Hell. It’ll probably be safer than Detroit.
Next up fallout 4’s dlcs are a spectrum
of autism
Or made by someone on one
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The downs spectrum
@@ManiacMayhem7256 with a touch of gold
Far Harbor: We wanted to try telling an expanded story that is very insightful to especially one of our most famous unique companions Nick Valentine
Nuka World: UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! I guess people want to be evil? Also take a magical ghoul npc because the fanbase likes ghouls. No they're not a companion because they are not a raider guy
The first 3 DLCs were forshadowing the eventual direction the series would go in for Fallout 4 and 76. In other words, bare minimum plot, shitty characters, shitty choices, et cetera et cetera.
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they put aliens in Fallout but not Starfield
What's your point.
@@neethsuesvoldar3265 Starfield takes place in space, a much more natural environment for aliens than a retrofuturistic post-post apocalypse
@@neethsuesvoldar3265It’s the equivalent to not adding giant mechs to a Gundam anime.
@barricadedpurifier I get the point but at the same time a game that's not about aliens but is about space travel has to have aliens in it or there's going to be some kinda belly aching involved....Intelligent or not the species found on other planets are in all intents and purposes alien.
Starfield has plenty of aliens. You just don't like that it doesn't have intelligent bipedal aliens you can make into a waifu.
I'm conflicted on Mothership Zeta, I agree that it's a step too far, but I'm a sucker for anything alien related. The problem I think is that Bethesda can't decide whether the Zetans are a serious and ominous threat, or just wacky enemies for us to turn into pincushions.
As a kid there playing fallout 3 I gotta say it was PITT, Anchorage, Steel, Zeta, then Lookout for me I honestly enjoyed the stupid like side characters like a fuckin samurai in Zeta lol It was a ridiculous DLC but as a kid I found the inbred mutant hillbillies to be 10x more cringe than stereotypical aliens.
Its a bit of both and I think theyre balanced well. What isnt balanced well is the enemy diversity, where everything is either a zetan, a turret, or a robot. By the time the abominations come in youre almost done with the dlc and they barely show back up again after theyre introduced
@@Ronin.97swampfolk are one of my favorite enemies in fallout
there's already this stuff in Fallout 1 and 2 encounters like crashed UFOs, a star treck ship, the TARDIS and more. keep fallout wacky.
@@stm7810 Those are easter eggs, to give us a few breaks from the harsh world. The crashed UFO is mentioned to be property of Area 51. Its label adds "Return if found." and you can find a Velvet Elvis in one of the supposedly alien remains.
You’re about to babysit me for the first hour of work
This is so relatable lmaooo
"How do you mess up going to space?"
[The Frontier mod logs out]
Interestingly enough what you understood from Wernher's side isn't the full story. See, he really doesn't care about the slaves. He doesn't care about the cure. All he cares about is himself. One of the developers behind A Tale of Two Wastelands confirmed this after scouring through FO3's dialogue as is required for the development of the mod, and found out interesting tidbits about his behavior. For the cues the VA was given for his dialogue, he needed to sound quite slimy, never really meaning what he meant. When talking about Marie, he just doesn't care about her well-being at all. He mentions things about how the cure extraction would go faster if the complainers didn't worry about harming "the little squirt", caring little about her well-being. He even says that once the cure has been extracted the slaves (which he still calls slaves despite the whole fighting for not being a slave) can take care of her, effectively turning Marie into a slave in the process. He doesn't even care about Midea, stating "You'd think an old slave like her would know how to work without raising a fuss, right?". This is not the marks of someone that fights for equality. Hell, the slaves mention how not much has changed when he became leader. In fact it's still the same old system of slavers telling slaves to do hard work, except now the leader has no prospects for the future. The real reason Wernher wanted Ashur gone is because he was kicked down a peg from the hierarchy and now wants revenge by killing his boss and asserting his "rightful" position on the throne of the Pitt instead of merely being second fiddle. He had no benevolent intentions to begin with.
With that in mind, this changes the premise of the Pitt's ending choices. You have Ashur: a man who has done a lot of bad and forced people to work in the Pitt as slaves, in the hopes of a better future for all its inhabitants and especially his daughter. He is no saint, but the Pitt wouldn't have civilization without him: just trogs lashing at anything that moves in one of the most barren hellscapes of the wasteland. On the other hand, you have Wernher: an opportunist who manipulates people so that he can have superiority over others, even as the smallest embers of what could potentially be civilization die out around him. Doesn't matter, he gets to lord over people as those said people's chances for a better life cease to be, fooled by the illusion that things might get better. Ashur somehow ends up technically being "the morally good choice" in all of this despite being a slaver, which kinda shows how messed up the Pitt is given that it's a place that's in such horrible conditions that no conventional good can help it become hospitable. That's the real magic of the Pitt, and combined with somehow making the dirty FO3 textures work thanks to lighting and being the Pitt, makes it the closest Bethesda got to making Fallout feel like Fallout should: imperfect human civilizations attempting to shape the future in a desolate land. Too bad they only had that spark for just that one moment before kinda being confused in which direction to take Point Lookout, then all the other DLCs.
Also Broken Steel kinda annoys me in the sense that it introduces the spongiest of the spongiest enemies to the base game, and they just flood the entire map by endgame. I swear if I have to fight another Albino Radscorpion or Super Mutant Overlord with DR ignoring flat damage tri-beams I will lose it. Actually I kinda did, hence why I really need to be bored to even boot up FO3 these days. Still beats playing Mothership Zeta with the whole war caused by aliens and the inertia fields. Oh those damn inertia fields.
If anything though I think it's a good thing that the story-telling of the Pitt can be so up for interpretation. Fallout should have nuanced moral choices, again the fact that Ashur is the best choice but players can choose to side with Wernher is great, because it's so distinctly human. It's absolutely the wrong choice but the player is still allowed to make it regardless of if it's correct or not because not everything is meant to go right and well in the wasteland, there's not always going to be proper justice for "good" people. It's player freedom in the truest sense. Such a shame that it happens so rarely in Bethesda games
The bleakness of the Pitt makes a lot of sense if you know where Bethesda got their inspiration from. The story (as well as some of the weapons and armor you can get) are callbacks to "Escape from New York", where the main character is forced to help people that are barely better than the violent criminals he is pitted against
I cant remember who, but one of the outcasts who you speak to before entering the sim mentions that all the safety protocols are off, meaning if you die in the simulation you’ll go into cardiac arrest. This implies the simulation has safety protocols that were probably used by soldiers training for combat. Why they were turned off, however, escapes me.
why do they even exist in the first place?
The **Fallout 3** DLCs were released in the following order:
1. **Operation: Anchorage** (Released January 2009)
2. **The Pitt** (Released March 2009)
3. **Broken Steel** (Released May 2009)
4. **Point Lookout** (Released June 2009)
5. **Mothership Zeta** (Released August 2009)
This is also the correct order to play in canonically.
I agree but play point lookout last.
its the best.
Wouldn't Broken Steel technically be the first DLC canonically? Given that it's an extension of the main story.
@@LeleiTheTigress Not unless you wait until beating the base game before tackling the DLC. As far as I remember, there’s nothing forcing them into a certain canon order.
9:18 You using meme wrong, you supposed to LOSE social credit for destroying chyna tank, minus 1 million social credit and get +15 social credit for shooting the soldiers that are your allies
5:29 the outcasts tell you before entering the simulation that the safety protocols on the pod got damaged. It wasn’t intended to kill its user, but after 200 years and being fixed up by people who don’t fully understand it, the pod is glitchy. Dumb, but with a somewhat fair setup, and shoots down your entire rant about the US military troops having this experience. You are directly told that such was not their experience before starting. I haven’t played in years and I remember, you just played. I like what you’re doing but it’s a given that an attention to detail is expected if you’re going to make a video like this
Not gonna lie, as a Maryland resident I am still SO salty that they made a DLC about fucking Pittsburgh but not Baltimore. You cannot make that make sense.
Fallout 3: The Balt
The raiders are metalheads, into the pit is a metal song, sometimes it really is that simple.
Bro, I loved the Pitt, it was awesome and my only problem is that it was too short. Exploring Point Lookout was also awesome with just not that good of a story. MZ OA and BS all felt boring and I couldn’t agree more. Earned a sub
31:20 at least with Megaton the choice is which player home you’d prefer, nuking the Citadel is actually completely pointless other than the tick on the checklist for a completionist.
For a first time player it’s not at all. One doesn’t even know they’re going to get a player home, and even if they did somehow they wouldn’t know the pros and cons from each when making the decision.
Player homes are only in the thought process bc the game has been out for almost 20 years and we know every reward for every quest lol
Nuking the citadel is the only way to kill rothchild, therefore its okay
I would say The Pitt is greater than F3, and Far Harbour is greater than F4... the DLC collectively from Bethesda is cohesive with world-building tone, themes and storytelling in a way in the main stories of F3 and F4 respectively (outside of occassional quests) just, aren't.. I feel the expansiveness of Bethesda/Bethesda's games are very much in tandem with their slow decline in quality since 2005.
Yeah main quest storylines are not bethesda’s strong suit
How I HATED that Fallout 3 and NV Gauss-Rifle! Seriously, BADthesda what is wrong with you? We had the M72 (which is now available as a mod for NV and Fallout 4 and is in Fallout London, too) Gauss Rifle, which is a magazine-fed Gauss-Rifle of German origin, so why have one in the game which has to be reloaded after every shot? I mean sorry, 'Muricans in Fallout maybe gung-ho nutters, but they would still not make such a dumb weapon!
Maybe use a different weapon then idk
I’m still upset we haven’t gotten the City-Killer shotgun back.
Ion even care that fallout 3 is one of my favorites. These videos just carry me through days like nothing else. Thanks for making em bro.
5:20 If I remember correctly, they explain it (loosely still) that it has to do with the pain inhibitors are turned off
why were the pain inhibitors even a thing in the first place though?
Overly harsh review but I really enjoy the term “lobotomy marker”
killing virtual solider doesn't make you a bad person but if you kill doc mitchell your a monster
True. After all, he did nothing wrong.
Honestly, I enjoy Point Lookout more than the base game of Fallout 3 in spite of how he issues within Point Lookout itself
I love that General Chase in Op: Anchorage is referenced across the rest of the games.
"How do you mess up going to space?!?!!?"
Starfield: Hold my beer...
If i remeber correctly fallout 3 the bullets dont come out of the barrel. They come out if the crosshairs, while new vegas the bullets come out barrel. I forgot where i learned this, but i could be wrong
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General Jinwei is like Fallout 3's Legate Lanius. lol
I thought Operation Anchorage with a combat realism mod I found to be pretty enjoyable where everyone (Player included) die to 1-2 shots, kept the gunfights tense and avoided getting too stale. But yeah, vanilla game, it really drags on with how spongey the enemies are, though I'm certain you could get beefier weapons for taking out the Chimera tanks.
I'm with you on those Alien workers, aside from what we see what they've already done to the human captives on the ship, who knows what other Godforsaken things they've done to people in the past, I'm not letting any of them live, purge the alien! Gameplay wise I thought it was a bit more boring than Op Anchorage, but the gear was nice once the DLC was done.
I wish there would of been more RP options for Broken Steel, but I think the problem was making the game continue after the ending since they kill off/ write Autumn and Eden out of the story, and we don't have any other major characters in the Enclave, any new villain would feel out of the blue since they had no build up in the base game.
Loved Point Lookout, this was the DLC that felt like a true expansion pack like older games, and could easily have been it's own Fallout game if it were made like New Vegas was, using Fallout 3's assets and expanding on them. Also nice comparison with Harold and Calvert, never saw the similarities between the two like that.
One gun you forgot to mention that I loved from Point Lookout was the Perforator, I'd consider it easily the best assault rifle in the entire game if you enjoy playing stealthy. As far as the quest for the Pitt goes, while I hate slavery, keeping them in power does seem like the genuinely best option considering Asher's wife seems to be the only competent person who could feasibly cure the people of the Pitt of the mutations. And getting rid of them doesn't seem to actually liberate the slaves at all as they just keep working when all is said and done. I have to agree with you that the Pitt is probably one of the best expansions, really cool lore, too!
It's rather interesting how 3 of the DLCs do have some relations to the BOS in some way or another.
I have to admit I went into this video initially thinking you'd be like that one dude that made an 8 fucking hour long video of Fallout 3 response video and hating the game from top to bottom and not trying to see why some people might like the game and conveniently leaving out the DLCs in regards to the game as a whole, so I'm happily surprised your video wasn't that. I don't agree with all your points but I'm glad we have common ground in that there's enjoyable content in Fallout 3's DLC, and I will agree at the end of the day that your overall point of the video that this game's DLCs are indeed inconsistent. Great video, BcheezySon!
Zeta would’ve been better if it didn’t give you your stuff back in the first 10 mins
BORERS - not Borders! You ain't going to Mexico and you ain't on a ship either (Borders would kind of make sense in Mothership Zeta!)
Its actually neither, its literally just “the dunwich building”
I enjoyed Point Lookout more than the base game of Fallout 3. Mainly because it actually went into the Marsh climate that makes up a lot of Maryland.
it is not a hot take to say Op Ank is the worst fallout DLC ever.
The "average point lookout resident" took me out ngl
No half measures, Sally.
Most of the problems with the DLC’s can be summarized with “they just keep letting Emil write stories”. Dude is a hack amongst hacks.
You can really tell while playing that Bethesda were trying to find their footing with DLC’s. You have an array of different types: Linear (OA), Linear with a bit of exploration (MZ), Open World Map (PL), Contained Map (The Pitt) and simple game extensions (BS). Then people loved PL/The Pitt, so we get Nuka World, Far Harbor and FO76 Expeditions.
That idea of using skills to convince sally about the unaliving of aliens sound really cool, hope a modder does it.
Op Anchorage is good once, after that it’s just a slog to get the best armor
0:29 And it wasn't. Not sure why you expected an online multiplayer Fallout to be a good idea, it just was a bad idea from start. 😅
I'm still hoping modders can one day salvage 76 cuz the map itself looks fire, it just needs tons of singleplayer mods to add proper sidequests(the one Bethesda added are boring)
Congrats on the move!! (Unless you were forced to, then I'm sorry)
Good luck!!!
Fallout 3 was my first. My dad got it for a birthday and i just happened to play it on xbox.
I think i was ten when i played it. I didn't play fallout 1 until this year. I enjoyed it. I will go back to play a complete playthrough.
And actually finish the game
I did remember protector mcgraws name, I have some serious Fallout 3 brainrot.
oh no... a fallout video essay!
my weakness...
Should've looked up Orccorp, Ceado Genesis, or some other content creators before you played. The best thing about Op AL is the Gary 23 glitch where you can get most of the Winterized weapons, combat armor, and Jingwei's jumpsuit (best armor for the weight in the whole game) brought back to the capital wasteland. Not to mention nearly unlimited ammo.
I love the Gary 23 glitch so much
14:01 actually one does and they become hostile and tries to kill everyone but they get killed easily
Great video! I will admit I always liked Anchorage and Mothership Zeta but looking back I think I was just happy to have something new to play on my Fallout game but Mothership zeta I played it a year ago, man it was mentally a struggle. Completely agree with you though, I need to play Anchorage for a project of mine and I'm not looking forward to it especially after you reminded me why I haven't played it since it damn near came out lol. Love your commentary too btw damn good listen too even if I'm at work and cant watch what you are talking about exactly.
Pretty sure the Outcasts said that the safety protocols are malfunctioning for Anchorage which is why they can't turn them off. Before the Nukes, that wasn't the case 😂
but why does these safety protocols even exist in the first place?
@@eusouocarameuirmao so they don't kill their people before sending them to Anchorage
@@captain_fruitcake101 You are not understanding what im trying to say: the safety protocols are a solution to a problem that doesn't need to exist.
What is the point of designing a training machine that can terminate the person using it? Why would anyone ever design such a feature in the first place?
@@eusouocarameuirmao ask the writers
@@captain_fruitcake101 somehow i doubt they can justify it without making the whole thing seem like contrived bad writing
22:24-22:32 Starfield. You described Starfield.
If you didn’t balance Gary just right into the pod with you, you’ve started all wrong
perhaps getting bad karma for killing alien workers is implying that the workers are being forced to work by the other armed aliens.
Because i only see hate here, im going to leave a hopeful and good-natured comment that Fallout 3 is one of the greatest Fallout games ever created.
I am no Bethesda glazer but I have a certain Nostalgia for the game that 4 can't provide because I was actually entertained by the simple point and shoot gameplay, I hated how Broken Steel was simply only that, but Mothership Zeta had a interesting and kinda scary atmosphere, especially outside the ship, where it's only your breaths keeping you company as you watch the void. Operation Anchorage was my first Experience with fallout so I was hooked off the fact that there was a civil war with the group of a-holes that branched off because of a civil war.
If you kill people in video game you become The Hunter from Starfield, so Bethesda philosophy actually checks out here
"How you mess up going to spave?" Have you played Starfield? xD xD xD
I mean, be careful what you wish for. Fallout frontier attempted to make the "better" mothership zeta like space experience and we all know how that ended up lmao
18:54 There was one channel that defended Mothership Zeta but then Creetosis and his crew just slam dunked that video 😂.
I mean seriously Zeta is that bad of a DLC, that it has 1-2 defenders on YT 😅
Lol i laughed so hard at the Enclave Soldier at 31:54 ! 🤣🤣
Personally I'll always look at Fallout 3 through rose tinted glasses, it was my first RPG I played when I was 14 and it got me into the genre, it's definitely not the best RPG ever but I think with the context when it came out RPGs weren't selling the way action FPS games were and so Fallout 3 was definitely dilluted to try to capture two audiences. Fallout NV is definitely streets ahead of it but I understand why Fallout 3 was way more loose with it's RPG elements. Tried to be safe and target a wider audience and the best parts of Fallout suffered because of it in the end.
11:08 Sounds like Bethesda is part of the same philosophy as the Undertale dev.
But seriously I think its just a quirk of Bethesda's game engine. That things runs off of black magic.
21:09 Hahahaha 😂😂😂 you said "talk tuah"
You know I used to hate the repair mechanic in fo3/NV. After fallout4 and 76 I really miss it. The green filter too honestly.
Also really don’t get the Mothership Zeta hate. It’s a fun romp and you get an arsenal of fun weapons. It’s kind of a live letter to 50’s/60’s alien invasion movies.
i like how you played fallout 3 and not ttw, ttw is good dont get me wrong but new vegas changed a decent bit to the games balance with vats and and how chems work with introducing doc bags ,ammo types , hardcore mode and a more intense crafting system.
i would also like to say you can beat op Anchorage within 40 mins tops. its not a hard dlc but is very very blahh. only reason to play it is the power armor training and the power armor
another thing id say about zeta, you get alot of ammo for the alien rayguns. other than that its a shit dlc that you should skip: if youre really wanna play it dont break the scripting the dlc will just break and you wont be able to finish it without starting the entire dlc all over before you get abducted
broken steal just adds 4 new main quests and post game ending. its like a ham sandwich just meh.
point lookout is pretty fun untill the tribal part in the manner. after that it becomes a boring slog with shooting jebadia or clint with bubba fud doplebarral
the pit is fine. kinda also like a ham sandwich. just meh does add ok weapons but they are just nifscop versions of stuff that already exists in fo3
DAMN bro,
you played Pitt and Point lookout first?
that is rough since they are probably the best OF f3 dlc AND the most lore friendly.
Point lookout was phucking legendary.
You rlly threw shade at far harbor? 😢
Suffer not the xenos to live...
That's kinda the point bro, you get a new area not the same fucking thing copy and paste. You get to go to space, a airbase, Pittsburgh, and a swamp, the dlc wouldn't really be as good if it was just all city expansions that look the same to Washington with the metro and all that.
Wasn’t the way you played these DLCs “inconsistent?”
Im playing this for the first time and i believe it has the most realistic and brutal world building. Fallout 4 is really cartoony compared and nv is just shacks everywhere other than the city. I adore fallout 3 so far but 4 will always be my fav bc of the gunplay
The thing that makes it hard to side with Ashur is that, despite presenting himself as a the-end-justify-the-means pragmatic kinda of guy, his handling of slavery is so unnecessarily cruel to the point of being silly. I don't know, maybe im misremembering things cuz it has been more than 10 years since i last played The Pitt, but was it **really** necessary to put slaves through gladiatorial bloodsport games? lmao
I don't think the hostile US soldiers was caused by your shenanigans in the camp. This happened to me once when I decided to fight Jingwei. Funny thing is they kept attacking me even after he was dead and General Chase had appeared. At a glance I'd figure it's a scripting or faction problem.
I also wouldn't put the whole KYS speech option down entirely to Fallout's US military having f-ed up ideas. Being defeated in combat by an enemy one considers to be inferior is pretty intolerable in many of those cultures. Granted it's not the same country but is a fellow communist dictatorship next door: North Korean SF troops actually offed themselves after an infiltration into the South rather than face capture.
Getting prodded in your own language by a Westerner is also a bit much for Jingwei here, (the Lone Wanderer apparently speaks Mandarin, which is why he/she understands Jingwei and can respond to him as well as knowing what the Chinese Remnants are saying).
Frankly the PRC in reality makes the Fallout US seem tame by comparison in terms of how they treat their own people and comport themselves militarily.
I just liked Mothership Zeta: not too much, but i like any alien media, and this was both hilarious and creative like you said to see how they actually existed for so long as pre-Edo period Japan. But i never understood if they were meant to be funny green man or Avengers level threat.
Also, fuck those Abominations, they give me the creeps every time
10:38 Lose Karma. Gain Social Credit.
Mother ship zeta sucked. There i said it.
I love Anchorage bec I’m a massive lore guy
Agreed, to be honest I don't remember most combat from any of the fallouts, it's forgettable, it's just a tool used to interact with the world:)
I remember getting the dlc an hyped and point look out whooped my ass and zeta was repetitive but the pitt will forever be legendary
We rise
Great video
Hi :)
Fallout 3 is my favorite because nostalgia
I forgot everything about these dlc's is just boring, legit almost fell asleep and nodded off 3 times in the short span I could bear to watch
i was really weirded out by putting broken steel with other dlcs considering that it is the only dlc that you have to beat the game for first
oh and here's a funny thing - bethesda is so incompetent that no matter which difficulty you play on, majority of dlc enemies are bullet sponges
like those hillbilly inbreds in point lookout, albino radscorpions, feral ghoul reavers, supermutant overlords...
just for "balance" i guess
operation anchorage is so painful, i know the main defense of the dlc but not even the most hardcore boot fucked soldier would program other soldiers to speak like that
the fact that bethesda thought it worthy of intelligence 6 to notice that simulation isn't real but not to actually be smart enough to mess with simulation is terrible
bethesda's terrible writing is even more visible here, you go to talk with GENERAL alone, like damn boy vaseline much?
and that over the top "diiiiiiiiiissmiiiiiiiiisssed!" it's not funny, it's not satire, it's terrible
literally entire dlc idea is full of call of duty and battlefield winks and nudges only they are terrible and everything that happens makes virtually and physically no sense
oh and the dlc lacks the option to be ultra smart character and just hack the shit out of the terminal to get the armor
which is funny because you can kill all the outcasts and do the simulation anyway but bethesda was never good at making anything so you can't willingly skip this masterfully crafted piece of gaming
also it's hilarious that bethesda not only has ruined the lore but also didn't fucking google it because how the fuck are soldiers supposed to be trained in simulation of battle of anchorage and succesfully beat china's ass WHEN THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL JANUARY 2077 - so the same year bombs fell america has taken anchorage, deployed power armors to shut down riots AND get a fully blown training simulation about latest war to train it's soldiers, wow just wow
mothership zeta is something that should be either actual simulation or a theme park with robots and synths
outsde of tons of alien epoxy that repairs your weapon this dlc is completely worthless
broken steel is... the inactive purifier that was gathering dust for 200 years first builds up pressure and deadly radiation but somehow purifies entire water on the wasteland...
what
point lookout is one quest of petty rivalry between a ghoul and a brain in a jar - you physically have no reason to help either other than being a greedy bastard and because quest marker said to go there
also that god awful quest for chinese spy which i am convinced was was set to fail because dumbass vault dweller can somehow break chinese encryption there's also no reason to do this quest and it's end is atrocious, china has build a gas chamber under ancient mansion without disturbing the ground just to kill one of their spies? and why is chinese intel recorded in english?
also also how does the computer know that you actually did your missions and why is it operational after 200 years
and then the only reason this dlc was created i'm sure - the unmarked at first quest with evil book that has to be taken to the most unusable location in capital wasteland - dunwich building
oh hey doesn't broken steel also force player to got here?
it's like they got complaints that this place was fucking useless so they decided to put 2 quests there
the pitt is terrible
>hey slave work or i'll beat your ass
>holy crap slave you killed toughest raiders you are not a slave anymore
>so friend now that you joined me and are not a slave anymore how about you get opportunity to backstab everyone
other than doing dlcs for weapons i don't see any actual value in them
they add nothing of substance and they provide absolutely no expansion for base game
broken steel is literally - "we know you hated the ending so here's 5 more quests that retcon the ending"
mothership zeta - every single alien movie cliche only from wish and i know that nobody ever comes back to the ship
point lookout - honestly there's way too many themes it's just stupid, evil book is evil
operation anchorage - we tried copying call of duty but don't even have a proper shooting mechanic
How do you even stay hydrated with the amount of salt in your body
I'm pretty sure the alien workers are a slave race to the other aliens on the ship
I think that too but thats unfortunately not canon
@@LucyWest370 Wonder where I heard that from then. I swear I remembered Sally saying the other aliens treat them badly and force them to work, but I haven't played that dlc in years
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Why is he so critical on Bethesda made fallout properties, he is never this critical on fallout new Vegas nor fallout 1 and 2.
@tnogaming6903 it’s just he never calls the battle of Hoover dam a cod Mission, but calls the broken hearts battle a cod mission. NV is great but the fans glaze it way too much.
@@KCbricks21I agree. I think both games have pros and cons, and while I personally believe that New Vegas is an objectively better game, Fallout 3 remains my favorite because of its atmosphere and writing along with the exploration and stories. (And before someone says it, no fallout 3 wasnt my first, my first was new vegas.)
@@KCbricks213 has a lot more combat focused dlcs/missions than NV so I think thats why. The battle of hoover dam is the finale to New Vegas and isn’t hyper focusing on combat missions often so I think thats where the comparison comes from
@@LucyWest370What writing in fallout 3? Most of it is pretty bad from memory
@@desko2041 Fallout 3 has really good writing for the characters and has a more SET story for the lone wanderer, believe it or not. Faction writing is not perfect at all, But yeah combat focus was not a good choice for fallout 3 DLCs. But point lookout and the pit have great writing and world building/ worlds. But it feels like this guy just constantly shits on any Bethesda made property, if he would atleast be as critical to new Vegas and fallout 1/ 2 as he is to Bethesda fallout this comment would never have been made. But still I respect everyone being respectful in this conversation.
very kewl
Bruh Gen alpha cooked
Fallout 4 was horrible, kept waiting for the game to get better but it was bland. The ship on the skyscraper was about the only fun thing to happen. The voice is a death mark on role-playing, not to mention the utter lack of dialogue. You either inquire, ask for more, agree, or say something a little cheeky.... amazing role-playing game, lemme tell ya.
You should've started at 3. You have no idea how much Fallout 4 kills environment, gritty wasteland to a bubbly color popping bulbous environment. It's so sad....
Never have I ever seen such bad takes… I am not sure how you made it through FO1 without a more serious and nuanced look at the world of Fallout. You can’t go through The Spy quest in PL without thinking, HUH they tried to kill me, bad game. Maybe the point is telling us what the Chinese were like, as bad as the US. Crazy takes all over bro
What have you been smoking/drinking/injecting/eating? Mothership Zeta is cool (prefere it over Point Lookout and The Pit)
Fallout 3 was the third FO game I played and it is the worst FO I've played.
The base game was dogshit and the DLC was somehow worse aside from The Pit.
I honestly can’t understand why people hate fallout 3 and fallout new Vegas dlc
Who hates the NV DLCs, lmfao?
@@arctic_dwella somebody I heard say they hate dead money
@calebbakker Oh, yeah, I've heard that. I don't understand that sentiment. I think NV DLCs super solid
@@arctic_dwella even all of fallout 3 dlc too
@@calebbakker I disagree. I find them all pretty bad except for The Pit
I thought Mothership Zeta was great, then I saw it without mods and winced so hard, where's the horror, the story, the cool sci fi stuff? why aren't you naked and afraid?
the only reason to blow up the citadel is to prevent Fallout 4.
I chose calvert as the lesser evil of cultural genocide vs literal genocide. was happy I got to kill both, rest of the DLC was boring.
to Paraphrase Mr Waternoose, I would kidnap a thousand children if it would end slavery.
If I wanted to enjoy Fallout 4 gameplay I'd install xilandros mods, which I did.
There is a lot of good horror in mz, but unfortunately no “naked and afraid.” They return your gear back to you way too quickly so scavenging alien equipment or captured human equipment becomes a non factor which really hurts its atmosphere in my opinion.
@@LucyWest370 yeah, the Cinemoded fallout patches and I think some of Sweet six shooters mods fix that, JAM fixes the gunplay through it being TTW, and stewies tweaks generally does the rest.
have you played either of the 'overhaul' mods for f3 and fnv?, specifically project nevada and its fo3 version. they add a lot to a great foundation.
@@kiraangle2823
Project Nevada is outdated.
Then say whats up to date, just saying nuh uh isnt useful
@@kiraangle2823
Check out Viva New Vegas. Lol.
@@kiraangle2823
Viva New Vegas. Lol.
This game and the DLC are both fantastic! Cry more please!
Great story
I thought that sane fallout fans died out. I heard people glazing mothership zets so much to often to be a meme, I hope this was just ragebebait for awful new vegas fans
My favourite dlc is point lockout btw. In my opinion this was better than whole main game
"i played a later instalment of a franchise and the other ones suck now because of it" Bro your comparing a game to another game that has 7 years difference between them...next you're going to compare Doom 93 to Doom Eternal. It would be more relevant to compare F3 to New Vegas and just be 1 of 35 different active content creators thats already touched on the subject.
You'd have a point if he hadn't clearly stated that he helds Fallout 1 & 2 in high regard.
He said that 76 sucked
You might be a trog if you think the pitt is the best, hotter than the smelters hot take
I love the pitt, its just too short and the ingot collecting quest is incredibly stupid for that generation of gaming. The choice you make feels like it has actual moral weight for once
Absolutely terrible gen alpha opinion
Gen Alpha? You think this guy is in middle school?
@@ElijahJagne
Gen Alpha is the new boogeyman. Gotta point and laugh to distract from fact that post-2001 Gen Z has the same brainrot lol.
Agreed on the first and last part but wouldnt this guy be like a millenial or something
@@LucyWest370 awful whatever opinion. Playing Fallout 4 first and then judging three
@@Limestone_Wolf
Gonna cry?
Speaking of CallOfDuty and fallout. Does anyone else hear ever think about the incredible missed opportunity of call of duty franchise crossover games? Like COD started running out of ideas when the future warfare era started and ever since then it’s been a struggle session with a couple partial exceptions. Imagine if you will that Activision had secured partnership deals with other properties similar to what they’ve been doing recently but with whole games. Imagine an entire CoD set in the Fallout universe during the last days of the resource wars with a massive nuclear war set peace in the middle and the later half of the game be several jank battles in the ravaged nuclear hell of a burning America that covers your transition from special operations to Enclave shut in. Could be pretty cool and realistically everything you need is there wether they’re making a more traditional CoD or a more recent style one. Plenty of weapons to work with, power armor unit could serve as the juggernaut, virtabird chopper gunners and gunships, Stingray bombing runs, mini nuke killstreak.
And not only fallout but they could do other franchises like Terminator. A CoD set in the Terminator post judgment day war would be sick too!
The most crossover thing we’ll get is an out of place Lucy skin for Multiplayer from that awful tv show.
The glitching at 31:30 was pretty funny
I don't get it why cry and make a whole video it was first fallout to go from 2d RPG to 3d it's still a great game imo .
Yeah fallout 3 suffered roughly from trying to translate a bunch of 2d sprites to a 3d open world space. People knock it for not being able to side with the enclave but fallout 2 didnt give you that choice either. Fallout 3 was a lot of firsts in trying to find its footing and figure out how to adapt the game, and new vegas improved on it. (Too bad 4 just forgot that and went back to square negative one tho)