When motorists see cyclists going through red lights it just confirms the general opinion that cyclists ignore traffic laws. Though this video is a sky training run they should really obey local traffic laws regardless of how famous you are or where you are. TBH it is a fair video of police just doing their job.
When cyclists read about drivers killing people, it just confirms the general opinion drivers endanger lives and enjoy killing people. Though this video is a sky training run they did a really great job of paying attention to everything around them and kept themselves safe regardless of how famous you are or where you are. TBH it is a video of police pulling cyclists over instead of paying attention to cars that are endangering lives.
What these cop are doing is totally useless. They just make numbers, by filling quotas. If all cyclists would perfectly respect the rules, they would invent or provoke infractions to "prove" they did something to their boss. They tell it themselves : they need signatures. And concerning the "confirmation" Tyson is speaking about, that's just confirmation bias, which touches so much idiots, who think they're the justiciaries of the road.
Yes but Im a little anfry on sa police. They give me 100$ fine for not wearing a safety helmet on a child push scooter. SA has very aggressive helmet laws. Not only cyclists but also adult skaters, inliners and push scooter rider must wear a helmet. They can stop you, even the helmet straps are not correctly fastened.
CowsRus Almost every single accident involving a cyclist is the drivers fault. Maybe when you murder a cyclist because you weren’t paying attention to the road you will realize that.
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WalrusRider motorists cuts you off when you pull your left turn using your left hand signals then taking your left then motorists goes over the double solid lines and Theres an opening he or she cuts you off
YOU GUYS ARE LUCKY, WHEN WE WERE KIDS WE COULD NOT RIDE ON THE ROADS, WE WERE TOLD SIDE WALKS ONLY!! THEN THE CITY MADE RULES NOT LAWS SAYING WE COULD NOT RIDE ON SIDE WALKS!! WE ALL HAD A FIT AND THE CITY AND COPS HAD IT OUT!! AFTR THAT 16 AND UP ON THE ROADS 15 AND DOWN ON THE SIDE WALKS!! NOW DAYS WHO KNOWS I HAVE SINCE MOVED ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND LOST MY LEG SO NOT MORE BIKING PLUS THE WIFE CANDIS WONT RIDE A BIKE SO WE WALK, WELL SHE WALKS I ROLL HAHAH COOL VIDEO, EVER GET CARS POPPING OPEN DOORS!?? WE DID SCREW UP A LOT OF 10 SPEEDS, JUST SAYING OLD ONE LEGGED JOSEPH T RETIRED NAVY
@@WalrusRiderEntertainment hes a fake and a liar....I doubt any girl or roommate talks to him after leaving...I've seen footage of him cheating his fake diet stealing food from guests....I've seen him break guest's property and not own up to it...hes a goof :(
Sensible policing. No attitude. Just the facts. If I ran a red light in front of the cops I would expect to get pulled over. This needs to happen so that we get some respect from motorists, otherwise they just want to knock us down. Chris Lawless is quite a big name on the UK domestic scene. Recently signed to Sky from the JLT Condor team that have dominated the elite road racing and crit series for years over here. Super domestique of the future possibly?
I'd say they were pretty condescending, although rightfully so. They said "we're not sure if you're oblivious to the fact that cyclists have to follow the same rules" to elite athletes who spend at least 25 hours on the roads every week
@@ganjamozart1435 police should have at least that much common sense. also not knowing at least a little about cycling in adelaide seems strange since the tour happens every year there.
Guilty as charged. I had no idea who Egal Bernal was until he won the TDF. I don't follow cycling as much as I did in the 80s when I raced. Magazines are crazy prices now.. Sky was centred around Froome and Thomas
Imagine what Bernal must be thinking. A man from Colombia, a country with unthinkable levels of crime and corruption, and he has to sit there whilst getting told about running a red from some Adelaide cop 🤣🤣🤦♂
Michael Evans they're in the city for the Tour Down Under, and are going on easy 1-2 hour recovery rides before/ between stages to loosen the legs, they're not going to go riding in the mountains you dumb fuck
the anarchists... lol... but seriously, i am from the Philippines, vehicles will pass you through on both left and right.. im saying, that it's more dangerous here than this footage.. :-)
Have to say that, even though my instinct as a cyclist is to defend fellow cyclists, the police did well to stop these guys. Turning right over tram lines where there's a no right turn is pretty daft, and a good way to get knocked off by a tram. Yes, you probably should have said something you silly bleep, and why are you following them doing the same thing? These guys are paid professionals who get to ride on closed roads all the time. It's not a huge ask that they adhere to red lights, especially considering that they're so recognisable. Stop at lights, follow the road signs, not difficult. Any suggestion that anyone was riding in a way that would endanger anyone is obviously ridiculous though. Yes they should have waited for the red light to change at the pedestrian crossing before going, BUT they did wait for the pedestrians to clear the crossing before moving off at about 1.5kmph. However, you have to wait guys! I don't see anything wrong with them filtering through traffic to get ahead of stopped vehicles either. This is every cyclists instinct, and it's the safest thing to do. Getting boxed in by cars and buses is not fun. Not only because of the fumes, but also because you do not want to be moving off in this situation. This is why you see a large marked box for cyclists at traffic lights in many cities. The argument that cyclists should stay in the bike lane just doesn't wash. In so many cases, the bike lane is the worst place to be due to parked cars, cars suddenly pulling over, buses stopping etc. I'm not going to sit behind a great big bus which is blocking the bike lane, no way.
All good points except the first one about being knocked over by trams. My commentary clearly states they are doing tram works. There are no trams running along KW St from Vic Square for a week after this video was taken. They stop at Vic Square. The State Government could have allowed cars and bikes to turn right there while the tram works were in progress. I suspect they didn't because they didn't want cars blocking intersections. Why did I follow them? Because I trusted they were briefed and assumed that maybe they had an exemption for the training week considering the State Government has turned the city into a maze with all these tram works. I have lived here almost 47 years and even I am struggling to find ways around. There are no entry bits everywhere in Adelaide at the moment as they are also putting up infrastructure for the Clipsal 500 motor race which I can tell you makes the road closures for the Tour Down Under look laughable. Every year the Clipsal turns Adelaide into gridlock for about a month or so.. End of the day, A good urban planning solution should facilitate smooth traffic flow. I see they are trialling cyclists being able to proceed on red lights in Paris.. www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33773868 The French are always smarter than most..
WalrusRider, I see (re: tram closure), well I hope the Sky riders knew that. All in all, much ado about nothing then! The Paris authorities have definitely made a good choice there. It's all about safety, so tres bien!
I have to agree. Any car that is angled to the left like that grey Corolla I tend to look behind and then pass on the right so as not to get pushed into the gutter.. I think I mentioned that point in the commentary.
Not to get nationalistic about it :) (well I'm not Dutch just spent most of my life in the Netherlands), but ignoring the light and taking right hand turns has been a thing in the Netherlands a very long time. On top of that many busy intersections have separate lights for bikes and also an area all the way at the front at the light only for bikes (hence less risk of getting boxed in). The Netherlands has great bike-traffic infrastructure and safety mentality. Granted a big part of that is that cycling is one of the main means of transport in cities and car drivers are just very aware of bikes.
Also the TDU is the first race of the season and they all have the new kits and bikes that cyclists want to see. It's actually quite a big deal. Non cyclists won't understand. Team Sky had the new F10s with a new livery and also new kits..
When the police claimed that the cyclists didn't give way to the pedestrians, they are wrong. The cyclists waited for all pedestrians to pass before they continued. Having said that, the light was still red.
Sorry I'm a cyclist and I agree with the cops on this one. We can't gave it both ways. We need cultural change to end this war on bikes. Im tired of being abused on roads and how people in the ofdice talk about cyclists doing everything wrong. Every driver that sees them running the reds then sprouts the same "they all run red lights all the time crap to everyone they know and this is what breeds the hate and abuse. They were just rolling through the city, what's an extra couple of minutes waiting for a red light. In an ideal world drivers would just relax, slow down and realise the extra time behind us isn't a big deal but then again really we should do the same thing by not running red lights... perceptions of us need to change and it's not going to be the big majority that's makes that happen.
Anything That's pretty open minded. Most commentors want to "Share the Road" but, at the same time demand the biggest slice. Usually they don't or have never driven a car. So they don't realize that we as cyclists are like gnats to motor vehicles. Buzzing around and almost impossible to see.
The need for a cultural change is an amazingly honest an insightful comment. I drive more than I ride but I ride regularly and surprisingly I spend a reasonable amount of time walking places. So am I a driver, a cyclist or a pedestrian/walker. Guess what if I am honest too I have made mistakes doing all three of them. Does this make me a bad person or a criminal or even an idiot. I think not I am just human and I make mistakes. The cultural change that is needed is not between cyclists and drivers or pedestrians for that matter. It is simply that we need to all cut each other some slack and be a little more patient. Do not assume the worst of everyone who is doing something different to you at that instance in time. Most of all before you start going off about a person on a bike or a driver doing something stupid remember the time you made a mistake that was probably not that different. As for the legal aspects we’ll the law is the law and if you break it you can not complain when you get done. The police handled it fine and yeah they got let off with a warning. I am sure there are plenty of drivers who have been let off with a warning too. So honestly nothing that different there. We are all the same. Just people trying to get on with life the best we can and generally not wanting to adversely effect those around us.
Have you ridden in Adelaide Anything? The red lights are unbearably long and are generally retarded. The lights are green the other way when no one is there and then turn red as cars approach. There is no way anyone can ride in Adelaide CBD without running a red. Running a red pedestrian signal is new - I thought that was a Grey area.....fanks Team Sky for clearing that one up. But yes to other comments - the SA cops are awesome - and some of them have beards which makes them even more awesome!!!
@bullwhip johnson, I wonder if you realise that a large % of all bicycle commuters in Australia are in the $150k+ income bracket. They probably own two cars, one of them a Porsche.
The Police in Adelaide are great. We had a road rage incident with a bloke who actually clipped one of our group by amazingly stayed upright. Followed up and made a complaint at the Police HQ in the CBD after our ride and the guy ended up getting a fine.
All teams and the Team Village and mechanics are based right in the centre of Adelaide..literally.. All teams need to negotiate peak hour traffic if they want to get an early start on their rides. This is especially common if it is going to be a hot day. It can reach 45 degrees in Adelaide in January
Thank you for this... as you say, all good. There are laws and we have all broken them at some point in our riding careers. Still doesn't make it right. Be careful and thankful for reasonable police officers!
Team Sky riders are very polite. I’m from Pasadena California and have ridden many fast group rides over the years. As in a fast group training ride situation if the pack gets a red light we mostly stop, but on some occasions we get caught in the red and run it. So sometimes we get pulled over by the police, at which point it sometimes becomes a shouting match between the police and a rude know it all cyclist in our group. So this shows the professionalism of a pro team being very polite with the police, as compared to amateur riders.
Actually statistically it is one of the most dangerous places in the world to ride, we have Mandatory helmet laws and nanny state attitudes about the law, BUT the culture here is roads are primarily for cars and bicycle lanes on roads is an after thought. Also there is a hate culture towards cyclist in Australia.
If you look at any car I crash in Australia a lot end up in a fatality. Just 2 days ago a motorcycle driver was killed when he was forced to hit a truck at 100kmh or a 4 people dying in a crash that was a week ago and possibly one more death. These are just major ones but there have been nearly a death every day from road accidents. Or 4 months ago 2 cyclist die less than a week apart from being hit.
@terry, prevention is better than cure. The small amount of time spent on this is worth it big time in the long run if it can help people ride/drive more safely. Now these guys were pros, probably did know, but I like the way the cops handled it and how the riders responded.
They broke the law- in Aus cyclists have the same rights and RESPONSIBILITIES as motor vehicles (the exception is you can go onto the footpath at anytime, but this varies state-to-state). I thought this was a fair video of your part. The police didn't charge them or anything- they either lecture or charge. I can't say I always wait at a red light when the crossing is clear but I go onto the footpath if so, meaning I can stop at traffic islands if I need to. I think the police where fair enough to talk to them and I think [particularly] when it's that busy you should be following the law. City riding is shit tbh, I admire and question the sanity of anyone who tries to train by riding on roads in the city. Go someone quieter or on the bike paths (like non-road bike paths), much nicer.
I will just add that I wish the police would talk to drivers as much as they talk to cyclists. So often when 'cycle safety' comes up- the focus is on cyclists, but we're the vulnerable ones and drivers can be awful. Some driver trying to gain 10 seconds on their journey and not giving us space could cost us our lives. Educate drivers I say.
It's called victim blaming. Like the "Be Safe, Be Seen" campaign. Blame us for being hit because we aren't lit up like a Christmas Tree during daylight with a fluro vests on. How about "Use your fucken eyes Motorists" campaign? Motorists should always be looking for cyclists. I have a luminous green jersey and cars still "don't see me".
Yeah, I was lit up like a Christmas tree when I was struck by a truck. Approaching a red light and I get rear ended. No amount of lights would have saved me though, because the guy decided it was a good idea to look away from the road because his kid dropped something.... Lucky for him I'm wiry and didn't break anything, and sustained only a concussion and whiplash along with a broken bike and his insurance will hurt after this because of him not taking driving a death machine seriously.
It's actually funny reading the triggered snowflakes getting their panties all twisted up about cyclists like this. These same morons screaming about "PC Nazis" and "Nanny state" then demanding more laws and more police action, but only for a harmless bunch of skinny athletes like these guys..?
The bicyclists were barely moving, and although the light at the pedestrian crosswalk was red ( At 2:40 ), they were safe. I mean, after all the pedestrians were certainly undeterred by the bikes. By the standards around these parts (Berkeley, California) yes, they technically would have been breaking a rule, but the police would not bother with it. We don't have 'pedestrian' red lights here. We have flashing yellows for certain crosswalks which means proceed with caution.
Police did the right thing - cyclists and drivers need to follow the rules and also have empathy and understanding for each other. The war going on is senseless.
After reviewing all the footage and using the pool of opinions in this forum, Iv'e now concluded that nothing is safe. We should all wrap ourselves in bubble wrap and forfeit our sense of self ownership, responsibility, accountability and lives to the hands of the state. I don't feel safe owning my own actions. I'd rather devolve into a cesspool of emotional erraticism and neurological mush avoiding sunlight, most forms of logic yet retaining an air of immunity and ever fleeting inculpability.
Am I mistaken in thinking that you can dismount to cross a pedestrian crossing whilst the motor vehicles have a red light? While walking through a pedestrian crossing with a dismounted bike, you are a pedestrian. You can re-mount on the other side, effectively obeying the letter of the law while skipping a red light.
Yes you can, when turning into a main Street if a car doesn't let me in, I hop off my bike go onto the path and use the pedestrian crossing, slowly walking across
Maybe you should get some glasses then. And you obviously don't live in Adelaide. It is clearly marked as "BUS LANE 7AM - 7PM" They also have signs posted at regular intervals that say "BUS LANE 7AM- - 7PM MON-FRI"
Go look on google maps and check out street view between King William St and Pultney Street on Grenfell Street. I can't believe you are even arguing with me about this. Lived here for 47 years dude
in germany when you have a group of at least 16 people you can ride double file and count as one "vehicle" on the street. and you run a redlight when the first of the group made it when the light was green.
In America you all get your ID taken for a Fishing Expeditions, they will tell you you are acting nervous and then ask to search your vehicle (bike), they will place you in handcuffs for their safety, pat you down. They will say you seem intoxicated and ask you if you've been doing drugs or alcohol.. They will at the slightest protest you state of how you are being treated, get their egos hurt and assault you, slamming you to the ground and charge you for resisting an officer. If they do not kill you they will ruin your life with a felony on your record. So be careful riding a bicycle in America.
@@WalrusRiderEntertainment I fit a profile. I have been harrasees for walking down the street. I am well off and live in a nice area, but I am a minority with dark skin and a shaved head and stocky build. They think I am a thug, so I profiled. I actually stress when I go out for walks.
Thanks for video and balanced commentary. I have mixed view. If we had a cycling friendly culture, this would have been police overkill as the Sky guys did nothing dangerous - eg waited until all pedestrians had crossed and then proceeded. But, unfortunately, we have a confrontational attitude in Aus society between cyclists and some others. Initiatives like the Amy G “a meter matters’” are real progress - but the flip side is we cyclists need to be squeaky clean. Not sure if the police knew this was a group of international pros (lots of people wear Sky kit), but their approach was pretty balanced... Thanks again for sharing.
@@WalrusRiderEntertainment # new to clipless , fell.off twice in first 2 days ! Sudden stops , where I didn't have a clear view of traffic that was potentially there ! I hate clipless !
@@WalrusRiderEntertainment # new to clipless , fell.off twice in first 2 days ! Sudden stops , where I didn't have a clear view of traffic that was potentially there ! I hate clipless !
I was a very early adopter in my state so have been riding clipless for almost 35 years. only problem I have is the new Look pedals don’t hang as well as the originals
@@WalrusRiderEntertainment # I can balance at standstill for 30 seconds easy enough with flat pedals , but wearing clipless suddenly puts fear in me ! Hopefully I get confident with clipless pedals
Can enter the bus lane if the car only travels 100 metres or less (to turn left etc.) Loving your content mate, only clicked because it had Adelaide in the title but you just gained a sub.
Thanks. Only place he can turn left into that is 100m or less is Gawler Place and that is a dead end. Could be dropping a passenger off there I guess but it is a nightmare to u turn back out of. Only delivery trucks ever venture down there..
That is fine. More workout for you guys: just pick your bikes and start running on the sidewalk. Return to the road right after the pedestrian crossing. Soon you'll be ready for any cyclo-cross race!
if you dont want to obey traffic laws, come ride Mountain bikes with us. no pissy motorists. no pissy roadies bitching about motorists. no roadie rules, no traffic rules. just wheels, pedals and nature.
After the cops got the info and left, did the pros say anything to you guys before riding off? Were they cool about it or did they just big time you and ride off?
Ah well. Mistakes happen and im certain everyone will pay more attention next time. Alls well that ends well n all. Good luck with upcoming tour WalrusRider. ps: those roads look quite good. How are they to ride on?
Weaving around buses is far more dangerous than it seems a rider was killed in Sydney a while back when the bus knocked him and he went under the back wheels.
On the European Continent, all the road users user roll through the pedestrian crossing after most of the walkers have crossed even when the lights are still red.
I use to buzz them all the time while I was training for road races. Their hybrid Trek's were no match for my Pinarello carbon fiber racer. I'd spot them riding tandem, then just fly past them. They made an attempt, but was futile, it was the fun part of my training....
not at all. Just the fact that some cyclists feel that the road rules don't apply to them, as these cops have pointed out to them, like turning right when no one else is allowed to, stopping at red lights and so on. Apart from that, I think its great that cyclists get around in traffic a lot easier than vehicles.
Would be impossible for a car to do that right turn as they don’t fit in between the signs 🤣🤣. and yes, there should be and are different rules for cars and cycles. for example, we can ride on the footpath in South Australia. can’t do that in a car. end of the day, common sense should prevail. at no point were we or anyone around us in danger.
as a car driver, I can say this... Obey the road rules and keep you safe, I'll give you over a meter when I pass you and I won't care if you filter in front of my car. We are all pedestrians, from getting out of the car or off the bike, being hit by a car or a bike still hurts and it's more frustrating when you hear that you're not at fault and the other person is. Keep yourselves safe, the cops here in SA want to keep you safe. Once again, I'm a driver that appreciates cyclists, one of you that's barely 50cm wide is far better than another SUV on the road, seeing 10 of you is 10 SUV's less for me to deal with. It's just the few cyclists that I'm pissed off about, I'm on a priority road (Prospect road) heading down and a cyclist exits a back street and heads through my path into the turning lane on my right is something that scares the shit out of me because... I can kill them, even at a mere 50kph. Ride safe, stay alive, go home and get paid... rinse and repeat.
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Only a cyclist could call running a red light as, "practicing marginal traffic gains" LOL.
I was being satirical
@@WalrusRiderEntertainment Most people are extremely literal. This is why we can't have nice things.
“No one famous” meanwhile egan bernal is just chilling there
Just biding his time
Who is that?
@@AbsoluteyAmerican winner of the 2019 tour de France 😂
He wasn't that famous back then, but as a Colombian I can feel he was scared af there
@@picofa lmao he probably didnt understand anything just the word illegal and was like fuck im boutta go to jail xD
When motorists see cyclists going through red lights it just confirms the general opinion that cyclists ignore traffic laws.
Though this video is a sky training run they should really obey local traffic laws regardless of how famous you are or where you are.
TBH it is a fair video of police just doing their job.
When cyclists read about drivers killing people, it just confirms the general opinion drivers endanger lives and enjoy killing people. Though this video is a sky training run they did a really great job of paying attention to everything around them and kept themselves safe regardless of how famous you are or where you are.
TBH it is a video of police pulling cyclists over instead of paying attention to cars that are endangering lives.
What these cop are doing is totally useless. They just make numbers, by filling quotas. If all cyclists would perfectly respect the rules, they would invent or provoke infractions to "prove" they did something to their boss. They tell it themselves : they need signatures.
And concerning the "confirmation" Tyson is speaking about, that's just confirmation bias, which touches so much idiots, who think they're the justiciaries of the road.
@@dupondavignon869 the cop did say I need details to bring to his boss lol
Yes but Im a little anfry on sa police. They give me 100$ fine for not wearing a safety helmet on a child push scooter. SA has very aggressive helmet laws. Not only cyclists but also adult skaters, inliners and push scooter rider must wear a helmet. They can stop you, even the helmet straps are not correctly fastened.
CowsRus Almost every single accident involving a cyclist is the drivers fault. Maybe when you murder a cyclist because you weren’t paying attention to the road you will realize that.
"no famous guys in this group"
Then I see Egan Bernal who won the tour a year or so later 🤣
yes he did
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WalrusRider motorists cuts you off when you pull your left turn using your left hand signals then taking your left then motorists goes over the double solid lines and Theres an opening he or she cuts you off
YOU GUYS ARE LUCKY, WHEN WE WERE KIDS WE COULD NOT RIDE ON THE ROADS, WE WERE TOLD SIDE WALKS ONLY!! THEN THE CITY MADE RULES NOT LAWS SAYING WE COULD NOT RIDE ON SIDE WALKS!! WE ALL HAD A FIT AND THE CITY AND COPS HAD IT OUT!! AFTR THAT 16 AND UP ON THE ROADS 15 AND DOWN ON THE SIDE WALKS!! NOW DAYS WHO KNOWS I HAVE SINCE MOVED ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND LOST MY LEG SO NOT MORE BIKING PLUS THE WIFE CANDIS WONT RIDE A BIKE SO WE WALK, WELL SHE WALKS I ROLL HAHAH COOL VIDEO, EVER GET CARS POPPING OPEN DOORS!?? WE DID SCREW UP A LOT OF 10 SPEEDS, JUST SAYING OLD ONE LEGGED JOSEPH T RETIRED NAVY
Why would I associate yourself with durianrider??...hes a goof woman abuser!! :(
Met him several times as I live in Adelaide too. It’s quite the opposite. Freelee used to hit him and he is still friends with Tori.
@@WalrusRiderEntertainment hes a fake and a liar....I doubt any girl or roommate talks to him after leaving...I've seen footage of him cheating his fake diet stealing food from guests....I've seen him break guest's property and not own up to it...hes a goof :(
Sensible policing. No attitude. Just the facts. If I ran a red light in front of the cops I would expect to get pulled over. This needs to happen so that we get some respect from motorists, otherwise they just want to knock us down.
Chris Lawless is quite a big name on the UK domestic scene. Recently signed to Sky from the JLT Condor team that have dominated the elite road racing and crit series for years over here. Super domestique of the future possibly?
I'd say they were pretty condescending, although rightfully so.
They said "we're not sure if you're oblivious to the fact that cyclists have to follow the same rules" to elite athletes who spend at least 25 hours on the roads every week
@@CamoDrako if you are not into cycling, how are you supposed to know they are pros.
@@ganjamozart1435 when people are wearing the same kit with the same $$$$$ looking bikes, they're probably pros.
@@ganjamozart1435 police should have at least that much common sense. also not knowing at least a little about cycling in adelaide seems strange since the tour happens every year there.
@@DirtyCiv yup when you see group of cyclist with a bike only few can afford
Watching in 2020 when he said no one very good now Bernal has won the tour and he was one of the riders
Guilty as charged. I had no idea who Egal Bernal was until he won the TDF. I don't follow cycling as much as I did in the 80s when I raced. Magazines are crazy prices now.. Sky was centred around Froome and Thomas
Imagine what Bernal must be thinking. A man from Colombia, a country with unthinkable levels of crime and corruption, and he has to sit there whilst getting told about running a red from some Adelaide cop 🤣🤣🤦♂
Yeah I know. It was neither reckless nor dangerous and actually helps the flow of traffic.
‘Lawless’. How apt ;) Police just doing their job and handled it pretty well.
Yes I put a subtitle on the video about that if you watch carefully 😊
Guy L sky was flaunting the police with their lawless jersey. LoL
Maybe he's related to Lucy Lawless?
@Tiago Nah that's just brainwashing. White people end up getting shot more and hands up don't shoot was a lie.
What's the point of a pro team riding round a city where they have to stop every couple of hundred yards?
To get to the hills or somewhere better to ride.
They live at the city, and like to ride outside of it.
And don' want to carry by car.
Maybe...
you dont have houses in the dessert, nor roads.
Michael Evans they're in the city for the Tour Down Under, and are going on easy 1-2 hour recovery rides before/ between stages to loosen the legs, they're not going to go riding in the mountains you dumb fuck
awareness.
Gotta love how he says no big names in the group. Just the guy who won the Tour de France the next year
Yep, like the year Chris Froome came down here in 2010 and no one even rode with him
So basically a correct statement.
"LAWLESS" on the jersey hahaha :)
Kurtis yeah that’s his surname
the anarchists... lol... but seriously, i am from the Philippines, vehicles will pass you through on both left and right.. im saying, that it's more dangerous here than this footage.. :-)
Have to say that, even though my instinct as a cyclist is to defend fellow cyclists, the police did well to stop these guys. Turning right over tram lines where there's a no right turn is pretty daft, and a good way to get knocked off by a tram. Yes, you probably should have said something you silly bleep, and why are you following them doing the same thing? These guys are paid professionals who get to ride on closed roads all the time. It's not a huge ask that they adhere to red lights, especially considering that they're so recognisable. Stop at lights, follow the road signs, not difficult.
Any suggestion that anyone was riding in a way that would endanger anyone is obviously ridiculous though. Yes they should have waited for the red light to change at the pedestrian crossing before going, BUT they did wait for the pedestrians to clear the crossing before moving off at about 1.5kmph. However, you have to wait guys!
I don't see anything wrong with them filtering through traffic to get ahead of stopped vehicles either. This is every cyclists instinct, and it's the safest thing to do. Getting boxed in by cars and buses is not fun. Not only because of the fumes, but also because you do not want to be moving off in this situation. This is why you see a large marked box for cyclists at traffic lights in many cities.
The argument that cyclists should stay in the bike lane just doesn't wash. In so many cases, the bike lane is the worst place to be due to parked cars, cars suddenly pulling over, buses stopping etc. I'm not going to sit behind a great big bus which is blocking the bike lane, no way.
All good points except the first one about being knocked over by trams. My commentary clearly states they are doing tram works. There are no trams running along KW St from Vic Square for a week after this video was taken. They stop at Vic Square. The State Government could have allowed cars and bikes to turn right there while the tram works were in progress. I suspect they didn't because they didn't want cars blocking intersections. Why did I follow them? Because I trusted they were briefed and assumed that maybe they had an exemption for the training week considering the State Government has turned the city into a maze with all these tram works. I have lived here almost 47 years and even I am struggling to find ways around. There are no entry bits everywhere in Adelaide at the moment as they are also putting up infrastructure for the Clipsal 500 motor race which I can tell you makes the road closures for the Tour Down Under look laughable. Every year the Clipsal turns Adelaide into gridlock for about a month or so.. End of the day, A good urban planning solution should facilitate smooth traffic flow. I see they are trialling cyclists being able to proceed on red lights in Paris.. www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33773868 The French are always smarter than most..
WalrusRider, I see (re: tram closure), well I hope the Sky riders knew that. All in all, much ado about nothing then!
The Paris authorities have definitely made a good choice there. It's all about safety, so tres bien!
I have to agree. Any car that is angled to the left like that grey Corolla I tend to look behind and then pass on the right so as not to get pushed into the gutter.. I think I mentioned that point in the commentary.
Not to get nationalistic about it :) (well I'm not Dutch just spent most of my life in the Netherlands), but ignoring the light and taking right hand turns has been a thing in the Netherlands a very long time. On top of that many busy intersections have separate lights for bikes and also an area all the way at the front at the light only for bikes (hence less risk of getting boxed in). The Netherlands has great bike-traffic infrastructure and safety mentality. Granted a big part of that is that cycling is one of the main means of transport in cities and car drivers are just very aware of bikes.
mike curnow yup
Do you literally just follow team sky around on their training rides? 😂
Just during the Tour Down Under when they are in my home city
WalrusRider fair enough 🙂
Don't hate. You r ass would have done the same IF you can ride as fast
toasty bear it’s called photography as some people are interested in the training and background information.
Also the TDU is the first race of the season and they all have the new kits and bikes that cyclists want to see. It's actually quite a big deal. Non cyclists won't understand. Team Sky had the new F10s with a new livery and also new kits..
When the police claimed that the cyclists didn't give way to the pedestrians, they are wrong. The cyclists waited for all pedestrians to pass before they continued. Having said that, the light was still red.
Sorry I'm a cyclist and I agree with the cops on this one. We can't gave it both ways. We need cultural change to end this war on bikes. Im tired of being abused on roads and how people in the ofdice talk about cyclists doing everything wrong. Every driver that sees them running the reds then sprouts the same "they all run red lights all the time crap to everyone they know and this is what breeds the hate and abuse. They were just rolling through the city, what's an extra couple of minutes waiting for a red light. In an ideal world drivers would just relax, slow down and realise the extra time behind us isn't a big deal but then again really we should do the same thing by not running red lights... perceptions of us need to change and it's not going to be the big majority that's makes that happen.
Anything That's pretty open minded. Most commentors want to "Share the Road" but, at the same time demand the biggest slice. Usually they don't or have never driven a car. So they don't realize that we as cyclists are like gnats to motor vehicles. Buzzing around and almost impossible to see.
There are very few cyclists that don't own a car. Maybe in Melbourne but definitely not in Adelaide. I own 2 vehicles presently.
The need for a cultural change is an amazingly honest an insightful comment. I drive more than I ride but I ride regularly and surprisingly I spend a reasonable amount of time walking places. So am I a driver, a cyclist or a pedestrian/walker. Guess what if I am honest too I have made mistakes doing all three of them. Does this make me a bad person or a criminal or even an idiot. I think not I am just human and I make mistakes. The cultural change that is needed is not between cyclists and drivers or pedestrians for that matter. It is simply that we need to all cut each other some slack and be a little more patient. Do not assume the worst of everyone who is doing something different to you at that instance in time. Most of all before you start going off about a person on a bike or a driver doing something stupid remember the time you made a mistake that was probably not that different.
As for the legal aspects we’ll the law is the law and if you break it you can not complain when you get done. The police handled it fine and yeah they got let off with a warning. I am sure there are plenty of drivers who have been let off with a warning too. So honestly nothing that different there. We are all the same. Just people trying to get on with life the best we can and generally not wanting to adversely effect those around us.
Have you ridden in Adelaide Anything? The red lights are unbearably long and are generally retarded. The lights are green the other way when no one is there and then turn red as cars approach. There is no way anyone can ride in Adelaide CBD without running a red. Running a red pedestrian signal is new - I thought that was a Grey area.....fanks Team Sky for clearing that one up. But yes to other comments - the SA cops are awesome - and some of them have beards which makes them even more awesome!!!
@bullwhip johnson, I wonder if you realise that a large % of all bicycle commuters in Australia are in the $150k+ income bracket. They probably own two cars, one of them a Porsche.
The officer should've been equipped with two headless glove puppets with which he could explain to the cyclists what they did wrong.
OMG that is GOLD 😂😂😂
❤
"You'll end up getting skittled."
I don't even know what that means, but I'm pretty sure I don't want to get skittled.
😂
It means "getting eaten as a delicious small oval candy" so getting skittled would not be any fun.
@@DCM8828 Or eating a whole packet too quickly and getting a sugar rush headache
The Police in Adelaide are great. We had a road rage incident with a bloke who actually clipped one of our group by amazingly stayed upright. Followed up and made a complaint at the Police HQ in the CBD after our ride and the guy ended up getting a fine.
I wish I could get that 10 minutes of my life back.
why would you ride downtown in a city as a training ride?
All teams and the Team Village and mechanics are based right in the centre of Adelaide..literally..
All teams need to negotiate peak hour traffic if they want to get an early start on their rides. This is especially common if it is going to be a hot day. It can reach 45 degrees in Adelaide in January
pppillyyy Struck a cord?
Getting “skittled” is something I’ve never heard before but it immediately became the best word for taking a concrete fall.
quite the opposite. we do those manoeuvres to avoid getting skittled.
Good reason not to have your name stickered on your frame. I'd say I was Chris Froome.
Or on your jersey 😂
It's good you put this up! Clears up a lot!
Thank you for this... as you say, all good. There are laws and we have all broken them at some point in our riding careers. Still doesn't make it right. Be careful and thankful for reasonable police officers!
8:07 the irony is that the back of one of the rider's jersy says "Lawless"...
Team Sky riders are very polite. I’m from Pasadena California and have ridden many fast group rides over the years. As in a fast group training ride situation if the pack gets a red light we mostly stop, but on some occasions we get caught in the red and run it. So sometimes we get pulled over by the police, at which point it sometimes becomes a shouting match between the police and a rude know it all cyclist in our group. So this shows the professionalism of a pro team being very polite with the police, as compared to amateur riders.
Australia must be one of the safest countries in the world if the police can find the time to correct the cyclists "unruly behavior".
Dont be fooled, plenty of idiot drivers out there
....which the Polis duly ignore!
Actually statistically it is one of the most dangerous places in the world to ride, we have Mandatory helmet laws and nanny state attitudes about the law, BUT the culture here is roads are primarily for cars and bicycle lanes on roads is an after thought. Also there is a hate culture towards cyclist in Australia.
If you look at any car I crash in Australia a lot end up in a fatality. Just 2 days ago a motorcycle driver was killed when he was forced to hit a truck at 100kmh or a 4 people dying in a crash that was a week ago and possibly one more death. These are just major ones but there have been nearly a death every day from road accidents. Or 4 months ago 2 cyclist die less than a week apart from being hit.
@terry, prevention is better than cure. The small amount of time spent on this is worth it big time in the long run if it can help people ride/drive more safely. Now these guys were pros, probably did know, but I like the way the cops handled it and how the riders responded.
Thanks for the video. Will put an end to any speculation.
That was my aim but I am getting flak for it anyway. Transparency will always triumph in the end..
Anyone see “Lawless” writen on the back of his shirt?😂
yes and I did the text pointing this out in the video
Im also about to say that in comment section😂
I was about to make this comment
They broke the law- in Aus cyclists have the same rights and RESPONSIBILITIES as motor vehicles (the exception is you can go onto the footpath at anytime, but this varies state-to-state). I thought this was a fair video of your part. The police didn't charge them or anything- they either lecture or charge. I can't say I always wait at a red light when the crossing is clear but I go onto the footpath if so, meaning I can stop at traffic islands if I need to. I think the police where fair enough to talk to them and I think [particularly] when it's that busy you should be following the law. City riding is shit tbh, I admire and question the sanity of anyone who tries to train by riding on roads in the city. Go someone quieter or on the bike paths (like non-road bike paths), much nicer.
I will just add that I wish the police would talk to drivers as much as they talk to cyclists. So often when 'cycle safety' comes up- the focus is on cyclists, but we're the vulnerable ones and drivers can be awful. Some driver trying to gain 10 seconds on their journey and not giving us space could cost us our lives. Educate drivers I say.
It's called victim blaming. Like the "Be Safe, Be Seen" campaign. Blame us for being hit because we aren't lit up like a Christmas Tree during daylight with a fluro vests on. How about "Use your fucken eyes Motorists" campaign? Motorists should always be looking for cyclists. I have a luminous green jersey and cars still "don't see me".
Yeah, I was lit up like a Christmas tree when I was struck by a truck. Approaching a red light and I get rear ended. No amount of lights would have saved me though, because the guy decided it was a good idea to look away from the road because his kid dropped something.... Lucky for him I'm wiry and didn't break anything, and sustained only a concussion and whiplash along with a broken bike and his insurance will hurt after this because of him not taking driving a death machine seriously.
All for safety but interesting they stated not to cut between cars and buses - most motor cyclists do it legally at every intersection stop light??
They do lane splitting to avoid getting rear ended, in which case you have a high probability of dying even in a low impact crash.
The back of that sky riders jersey says "lawless", ironic. Not sure if anyone noticed.
I noticed. Even put a subtitle near the end. (See u didn’t notice 😉)
WalrusRider haha I didn't watch till the very end:)
Shame on you 😂
I noticed.... Pleased with myself for spotting it.... Only to realise that everyone else had already. Damn. 😁
Christopher Lawless
I heard someone crunch their gear on the take off.... that was the real crime...
Dude, try riding your bike in Amsterdam ! No rules at all !
I'd love to.
I assume you gave permission to 'Aussies over cyclists' Facebook page to use this, and they haven't stolen your clip?
Definitely not. Have messaged them to take it down.
Report them to FB as well, it's a hate page that incites violence against cyclists
Couldn't be stuffed. Facebook have never listened to any of my reports..
It's actually funny reading the triggered snowflakes getting their panties all twisted up about cyclists like this. These same morons screaming about "PC Nazis" and "Nanny state" then demanding more laws and more police action, but only for a harmless bunch of skinny athletes like these guys..?
@@Comeonpeoplepipedown yeah here people hate cyclists for no reason. im a runner but i cycle sometimes on the roads and people dont care much for us
The bicyclists were barely moving, and although the light at the pedestrian crosswalk was red ( At 2:40 ), they were safe. I mean, after all the pedestrians were certainly undeterred by the bikes. By the standards around these parts (Berkeley, California) yes, they technically would have been breaking a rule, but the police would not bother with it. We don't have 'pedestrian' red lights here. We have flashing yellows for certain crosswalks which means proceed with caution.
Funny how the cops have no idea who they are, they are educating Tour de France pro riders on bike safety 🤷♂️🤣🤣🤣
Pretty sad isn't it - professional cyclists having to be educated about bike safety.
they nearly bowled over pedestrians.
Yeah .. nearly bowled over pedestrians in slow motion haha.. "Never go full retard" - Tropic Thunder
6:00 Never knew a year later will be poise to win the tour de france
I know. He was an unknown rider when he came here for the TDU. We only thought Thomas and Froome were star riders
Police did the right thing - cyclists and drivers need to follow the rules and also have empathy and understanding for each other. The war going on is senseless.
There shouldn't be a war going on that's the problem! Did you see anyone even come close to danger?
After reviewing all the footage and using the pool of opinions in this forum, Iv'e now concluded that nothing is safe. We should all wrap ourselves in bubble wrap and forfeit our sense of self ownership, responsibility, accountability and lives to the hands of the state. I don't feel safe owning my own actions. I'd rather devolve into a cesspool of emotional erraticism and neurological mush avoiding sunlight, most forms of logic yet retaining an air of immunity and ever fleeting inculpability.
You just described the nanny-state of Australia.
Then be sure to wrap the bubble wrap in red tape. :)
If I obey all the road rules to the letter of the law can you guarantee my safety?
Am I mistaken in thinking that you can dismount to cross a pedestrian crossing whilst the motor vehicles have a red light?
While walking through a pedestrian crossing with a dismounted bike, you are a pedestrian.
You can re-mount on the other side, effectively obeying the letter of the law while skipping a red light.
Bahahha heck of a loophole... BTW, I have no idea bit it sounds legit
Yes you can, when turning into a main Street if a car doesn't let me in, I hop off my bike go onto the path and use the pedestrian crossing, slowly walking across
just tell the cops "m8 im chris froome"
picture quality is so good. which one didi u use?
Hero 6
Typical SKY breaking the rules as usual 😂
Cough, wheeze 😉. Where's my 'medicine'.......🤔
More than one road rule broken.
Did you notice the white commodore in the bus only lane (it was 8:30am so no excuse. Lane had been bus only for an hour) or are you just one eyed?
WalrusRider didn't look like a bus lane, at least 2 of them using their mobiles just before the illegal right turn.
Maybe you should get some glasses then. And you obviously don't live in Adelaide. It is clearly marked as "BUS LANE 7AM - 7PM" They also have signs posted at regular intervals that say "BUS LANE 7AM- - 7PM MON-FRI"
Go look on google maps and check out street view between King William St and Pultney Street on Grenfell Street. I can't believe you are even arguing with me about this. Lived here for 47 years dude
Maybe check out 2:55 of the video and then book an eye test for Spec Savers haha
in germany when you have a group of at least 16 people you can ride double file and count as one "vehicle" on the street. and you run a redlight when the first of the group made it when the light was green.
That is just common sense but common sense is not very common in Australia
Love it how Chris LAWLESS is one of the riders disobeying the law. 😂
Police : "We will now take selfies with you guys for evidences"
Literally every car is driving on wrong side of the road. Why not stop them first?
hahhaha
Nice footage here. I just noticed at 8:09 that the guy's shirt reads "lawless" 😁
Thumb up for the cops. You got far better cops than we do :)
they always do a big blitz on cyclists and motorists around cyclists during the TDU
Of course Australian cops are nice sounding. “Not safe, guys!” “You’ll get skittled!”
lol
Love the Australian accent.
In America you all get your ID taken for a Fishing Expeditions, they will tell you you are acting nervous and then ask to search your vehicle (bike), they will place you in handcuffs for their safety, pat you down. They will say you seem intoxicated and ask you if you've been doing drugs or alcohol.. They will at the slightest protest you state of how you are being treated, get their egos hurt and assault you, slamming you to the ground and charge you for resisting an officer. If they do not kill you they will ruin your life with a felony on your record. So be careful riding a bicycle in America.
Never had any problems with police. I am polite and do what they say.
@@WalrusRiderEntertainment I fit a profile. I have been harrasees for walking down the street. I am well off and live in a nice area, but I am a minority with dark skin and a shaved head and stocky build. They think I am a thug, so I profiled. I actually stress when I go out for walks.
Surely they know you by now. Maybe wear a MAGA hat ;-)
@@WalrusRiderEntertainment
Not in Portland. Oregon! And many other places in USA, the 'Auntyfa' will attack you.
Thanks for video and balanced commentary. I have mixed view. If we had a cycling friendly culture, this would have been police overkill as the Sky guys did nothing dangerous - eg waited until all pedestrians had crossed and then proceeded. But, unfortunately, we have a confrontational attitude in Aus society between cyclists and some others. Initiatives like the Amy G “a meter matters’” are real progress - but the flip side is we cyclists need to be squeaky clean. Not sure if the police knew this was a group of international pros (lots of people wear Sky kit), but their approach was pretty balanced... Thanks again for sharing.
Anybody knows about those campagnolo bullet rims that guy had? Was thinking of getting a pair.
Egan Bernal is one of them correct?
yes
I always felt that keeping a tight group in traffic was a defensive (driving) tactic especially when you are at the rear and the light has changed.
How to ride in traffic with clipless
Exactly. trolls don’t realise that with clipless pedals you have to avoid stopping unnecessarily
@@WalrusRiderEntertainment # new to clipless , fell.off twice in first 2 days ! Sudden stops , where I didn't have a clear view of traffic that was potentially there ! I hate clipless !
@@WalrusRiderEntertainment # new to clipless , fell.off twice in first 2 days ! Sudden stops , where I didn't have a clear view of traffic that was potentially there ! I hate clipless !
I was a very early adopter in my state so have been riding clipless for almost 35 years. only problem I have is the new Look pedals don’t hang as well as the originals
@@WalrusRiderEntertainment # I can balance at standstill for 30 seconds easy enough with flat pedals , but wearing clipless suddenly puts fear in me !
Hopefully I get confident with clipless pedals
Now Bernal:
Hold my beer police
😂😂
How many dangerous maneuvers did the cops make to copsplain to a group of professional riders?
As a dutch person, I'm horrified by the lack of bike lanes
Also spotted another illegal thing the police failed to see. The white commodore car is in the bus only lane..
Can enter the bus lane if the car only travels 100 metres or less (to turn left etc.) Loving your content mate, only clicked because it had Adelaide in the title but you just gained a sub.
Thanks. Only place he can turn left into that is 100m or less is Gawler Place and that is a dead end. Could be dropping a passenger off there I guess but it is a nightmare to u turn back out of. Only delivery trucks ever venture down there..
Pretty sure they just wanted to talk to team sky or see them up close lol jk
Remember its their job(for money) so they're lookin for quantity
Remember its their job(for money) so they're lookin for quantity
Thanks for posting, nice video
Wow that must be so epic to cruise with Sky through downtown. Their new kit is so dope.
What a feeling riding with the sky boys.
That is fine. More workout for you guys: just pick your bikes and start running on the sidewalk. Return to the road right after the pedestrian crossing. Soon you'll be ready for any cyclo-cross race!
🤣🤣👍
if you dont want to obey traffic laws, come ride Mountain bikes with us. no pissy motorists. no pissy roadies bitching about motorists. no roadie rules, no traffic rules. just wheels, pedals and nature.
I have a mountain bike too
After the cops got the info and left, did the pros say anything to you guys before riding off? Were they cool about it or did they just big time you and ride off?
'cutting between cars and buses' is filtering/lane splitting. Is it illegal in Australia to filter?
Good Video and needed to be shown, as a CYCLIST we have probably all done that at some point over the years, Police doing there job well.
"I could've told them that the right turn is forbidden here but yeah,nah,fuck it" xD
Nice summary. They were already upset by us winning the ashes. Don’t want to tell them how to ride a bike as well as play cricket 😉
Just wondering why are they riding in the city with the most traffic possible?
all the teams are based right in the centre of the city so have to ride through and out of the city centre to go training..
Cracks me up how on the back of his kit it says Lawless lol
no, they have their surnames on the back. his name happens to be Lawless
Good vid, well narrated
Rode with Egan Bernal, Pinarello F10s, pulled over by cops this is the best day ever!
finally someone gets it
I do the same as the Sky riders every time I ride in town. It's about momentum and staying out of the way of cars safely.
Yup, safety in speed sometimes
I want to travel to Australia so bad, is Sidney also acycle paradise? Like Adelaide
if you want a cycling paradise try Amsterdam or Copenhagen.
Adelaide is good for cycling (except that there is a lot of animocity between cars and bikes)... Sydney is not great at all for cycling
Ah well. Mistakes happen and im certain everyone will pay more attention next time. Alls well that ends well n all.
Good luck with upcoming tour WalrusRider.
ps: those roads look quite good. How are they to ride on?
Its capture by à gopro hero 5?
this is à verry good quality Thanks
Hero 6 actually. Yes happy with the quality. Last year I was filming with a Hero 3.
“Freeze, Dirt Bag.”👮🏻♂️ The Blew Oyster Bar must have been closed.
which camera are you using?
5:15 what's up
Hello 😂😂
Weaving around buses is far more dangerous than it seems a rider was killed in Sydney a while back when the bus knocked him and he went under the back wheels.
Officers were quite gentle and polite to the riders. Where was the team car?
do you get a ticket for what happened.
just a warning and they got to hang around some star pro riders including the future TDF winner Egan Bernal
Police getting their quota up for safety week. 10 cyclists for the price of 1 stop.
On the European Continent, all the road users user roll through the pedestrian crossing after most of the walkers have crossed even when the lights are still red.
I’ve been cycling for 48yrs.
Only time I ever got a ticket is in
Adelaide. No helmet. $98AUD
I threw the ticket away.
it’s a $344 fine in NSW
You know not one of them gave the correct details
I said my name was Michael Mouse but you can call me Mickey lol
GOOD!!!!! bravo!! ….my name is thorwald,.. btw.....thorwald jones.
The cops basically pulled them over just to say to their boss that they talked to the cyclists. But follow traffic laws guys
at 6:45 cops don't implement laws, that's up to the politicians to do
thank you for sharing! it's a great video! and good to know!
Marginal traffic gains? I thought the police pulled them over for breaking the road rules.
4,57 left bike,single disk front?
People ask me why do I do it when I stop at red light here in Turkey. They basically don't know the same traffic rules apply to all vehicles.
I use to buzz them all the time while I was training for road races.
Their hybrid Trek's were no match for my Pinarello carbon fiber racer.
I'd spot them riding tandem, then just fly past them. They made an
attempt, but was futile, it was the fun part of my training....
I think people hate cyclists because we look so free moving around.
correct
not at all. Just the fact that some cyclists feel that the road rules don't apply to them, as these cops have pointed out to them, like turning right when no one else is allowed to, stopping at red lights and so on. Apart from that, I think its great that cyclists get around in traffic a lot easier than vehicles.
Would be impossible for a car to do that right turn as they don’t fit in between the signs 🤣🤣. and yes, there should be and are different rules for cars and cycles. for example, we can ride on the footpath in South Australia. can’t do that in a car. end of the day, common sense should prevail. at no point were we or anyone around us in danger.
as a car driver, I can say this...
Obey the road rules and keep you safe, I'll give you over a meter when I pass you and I won't care if you filter in front of my car.
We are all pedestrians, from getting out of the car or off the bike, being hit by a car or a bike still hurts and it's more frustrating when you hear that you're not at fault and the other person is.
Keep yourselves safe, the cops here in SA want to keep you safe.
Once again, I'm a driver that appreciates cyclists, one of you that's barely 50cm wide is far better than another SUV on the road, seeing 10 of you is 10 SUV's less for me to deal with.
It's just the few cyclists that I'm pissed off about, I'm on a priority road (Prospect road) heading down and a cyclist exits a back street and heads through my path into the turning lane on my right is something that scares the shit out of me because... I can kill them, even at a mere 50kph.
Ride safe, stay alive, go home and get paid... rinse and repeat.