THE BEST SUBWOOFER YOU CAN BUY FOR LESS THAN $150?? 😵🤩 (Reviewing the CT Sounds Tropo 12)
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Not bad at all especially if y’all want to buy four. I’m very sure it will be shaking your bones and still under $1000. Some companies ask $2000 for just one 15”. That’s a lil too much in my opinion.
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I love the solid level rubber gasket around the mounting screws for inverting the sub 👍. I hate when companies get fancy with chiseled out designs that hinder a tight seal when you invert it
grabbed 2 -10's and swapped them out with 2 other 10's and these are alot louder and cleaner. Def worth the money.
Machete MF 12s are beasts the 800 rms version for under 130$ right now.
I've got 2 MF 12s on 1000 watts a piece and they slam so hard. Imo, best 12 inch sub for under $150.
He knows this is clip bait to get hit and a reaction out of all of us,,, he did a 150 comparison a few months ago it was a little more impartial
Really like the tropo 10s they work great for shallow box applications only 5.6 inches mounting depth. Great for behind and under seat trucks
Got 2 10" tropos in a 1.5cuft sealed box with a ct.1500.1d. They do pretty well,but definitely want abit more air space. Time to build a custom box...
I have a tropo 18” and they are a nice value. Good venting on the basket nice chrome vented motor and underrated. The 18 will take 800-1000 rms all day long on music. Another value sub is the NEP. I run the select 12 currently on 800 rms while its only rated at 500. And takes it like a champ. Unfortunately those are discontinued but the Tropo series is still available and a good budget sub imo also. I think they have a ttropo XL out now also that is beefed up a little more. Great review!
Are the lows really good on the tropo 18?
@NC PYRO lows will be amazing on pretty much any 18 lol
I’ve got an 18” tropo in a sealed box in my blazer and it is by far the best sounding single sub setup I’ve ever owned. Got it wired at 2ohms on a ct-1000.1 amp and it’s matched nicely. I will probably be going with a second 18 and a ported box once I get my interior gutted and replaced.
I’ve really been looking into that sub… how long have you had it ? Will it get low in a sealed box. I have been battling this question for days 😂…. Thanks
@@astro54541 I’ve had it installed for about 3 1/2 months now. It sounds better now that it’s broke in. It does really well in a sealed box. The box was built to spec but I don’t remember what that was off the top of my head. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy it again. It surprises me how low it goes. Only thing I would change is that if I were only doing one sub I’d get the dual 2ohm and wire it down to one.
@@DankieDickie Thank you so much for the advice. I’ve been debating on running 1-18” vs 2-12s”. Trying to be more efficient with less subs, and I’ve never personally owned and 18 so I wasn’t quite sure on the box. I’ve read comments that said 18s can get low in a sealed box. I wanted to avoid port noise this go around. Thanks again so much 👌
@@astro54541 and 99% of cases that I've seen after 47 years of listening and doing systems going from 212 to a single 18 will always improve output and very often sound quality too on the same power. It's also an increase of about 25% active surface area while eliminating destructive interference that occurs when two different point sources generate the same wave.
Think of it as dropping two 10 lb rocks in a pond and observing the waves versus dropping a single 20 lb Rock. Exactly the same energy input but very different wave patterns. The wave coming from that single 20 lb Rock will be much higher and disperse evenly sound behaves the same
I have a tropo 18 also in a sealed box. Sounds like 2 12s. Also been one of my favorite set ups
Rob... You need to look at American Bass titans. They are absolutely amazing for the price. I have 2 hooked up to my cab-22 amp and they take the power no problem. 3" voice coil with 170oz dual stack magnet for $120 is an absolute steel.
Titans or elites??? Hmmmmm
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I'm an American bass fan but the titans do not have a larger high rise surround but they still pound I have 4 15 in xmaxx monster by American bass
@@rickeybraggs1956 what’s your power supply. Everyone talks about there amps and subs but not there power supply
Yes, budget banger. Not the beefiest at this price point though. Budget king is Wolfram Copper Series
Yes the copper series was way over looked I lovey copper series sub :) favorite sub I’ve owned other than my first set of rockfords.
Bro that box is massive for a single 12! I'm using two of these in recommended 3.5 cft air space ported. Thanks for the review Rob!
Space makes bass 😉
One sub that looks very similar in my opinion is the Wolfram Audio Ti-12 and is also a sub that I'd love to see tested
I got 2 ti 15s and I've been beating the hell out of them and they have held up so far I'm actually about to add 2 more...you can't beat them for the price
You should check out the Audio Legion Gladiator. It looks very similar to this with a little beefier motor and 800 rms for under $100. I use the 10 when I don't want to take up all my trunk space
Yeah those look beef it’s a shame the company is going out of business
@@HifiVega I just bought some coaxes from them 2 weeks ago. I've been looking at the gladiator too. I think skar bought their rights because the shipping came from skar. Plus the warranty is honored by skar. All their old stock was probably bought by skar.
The gladiator is literally the Skar SVR. They are so identical that I was thinking about getting one because I already have an SVR and could run them both It's crazy lol. I wish I had caught their amp sell 😩
@@TrealFOET I caught their amp sale. I literally got their last mono block amp, the 700.
I am using multiple Tropo 8's for an SQL build, they sound fabulous if you like balanced sound with a good strong bass. $90.00 and they sound better than any of the 3 JL Audio subs I have bought, better than my Kicker Comp RT's too. They sound a lot like my Infinity Kappa 1200W.
I seriously doubt there is a difference you can actually hear between any of these if you compare equal size and power. The companies you mention are all legit brands and aren't going to make inferior products. When it comes to bass, 50hz is 50hz, 40hz is 40hz, etc, etc... 50hz isn't going to sound different from each speaker, not even between sizes. The only difference you hear is loudness between sizes and power. if you have a 12" speaker from each company all side by side that can handle 500 watts and you run them all at 300 watts and have somebody switch between them while you are blindfolded and have you pick which is which, it would end up no better than random guessing hit and miss. Run the test 10 times through to be sure.
@@marcuslinton310 Waat! You must be new. As someone who has enjoyed doing this for 30 years...there absolutely is a difference. It's not like all of us are just imagining things and specs like Q value don't matter or mean anything. LOL
@@JViello So you're suggesting 50hz sounds different between every sub? I don't think so. The only time any difference comes in to play is their power handling and construction quality/durability. If one sub says 500 max, it may still handle 600 fairly well, but another brand may even go to 700 or even 1000 even though it says 500max. But all the name brand subs have no issues handling below and up to their max rms while putting out a quality sound and if I knew you personally I would challenge you to $1,000 bet that you'd never be able to tell the difference in a blind test. All you are hearing is a sound level increase, loudness between each sub due their construction and quality.
@@JViello I should have also asked the original commenter to please define "balanced sound" and "good strong bass". These would suggest more to do with location of speakers for a balanced sound and simply more power for good strong bass. These factors have nothing to do with the sub itself other then power handling when dealing with quality brand subwoofers. Of course we need more information as to what all he changed when he went to the Tropo 8's vs what he had with the other brand subs. You can't change a bunch of stuff around and then compare the sound and call it equal. You can only swap out the speakers.
@@marcuslinton310 Maybe I'm misunderstanding you here. When you talk about not discerning 50hz between drivers...Are you talking about music, or just generated sine waves?
For a cheap sub the tropo sounds good, i put it in a sealed and ported box and sounds good in both, bought a 10 for 78 bucks on there website with free shipping
I've heard ct sounds is a good brand. I hear they have some good components too. Personally never heard any though.
I think my 4 power acoustik 12's were a steal at 80 a piece. They slap. I have em powered by a taramps smart 5k.
Edit: to be clear, I really like these subs as well. I think they are a great value!
Just put in 2 12” tropos in a custom box running on a arc audio 2500.1 and they sound beautiful.
I'm really loving that 1998-00 Cerwin Vega Vflex V154 behind you... I have 3 of em looking for more!!!!!!
Just ordered the 12s and 8s for a Scion XB truck conversion I'm doing. It'll probably be a few months before everything is done. Didn't want to break the bank on the tunes. But your vid kinda pushed me more towards the CT subs, thanks. Will be using a D4S JP8 to push the subs.
Sounds like a fun project
The sub I think was a decent deal I gave I think $46 for most people say they are garbage but mind you it's powered by probably not true wattage Kenwood vr505 av stereo receiver and in a 10 inch Pyle 500watt bandpass box, but I bought it 2 years ago and the sub which is a Boss audio chaos exxtreme 10 dual voice coil is still pounding.
Definitely a good looking subwoofer.Check out the Audio legion Gladiator 12inch for only 84 dollars. 2.6 in coil 153 Oz motor 15 mm xmax one way high roll surround double stitch on surround.
CT Sounds make some really good subs for their price, as does Crossfire Audio and DD Audio in my opnion. DD Audio (noted more for quality than price) now offers a "Made in America" subwoofer $300-$350. But their Redline entry level subs are pretty good too especially at their price but are made in China I believe. Hard to go wrong with CT Sounds subs.
For just a few more bucks, you can go with their Ozone series. It looks to be much the same speaker, but with somewhat higher power handling capacity and Xmax.
Do you have an ozone? That’s what I’m planning on going with in a fox box.
Heck yea man!! Ct sounds does make some decent stuff i have some of their meaty 6.5s in my doors!! But great video man!!! Appreciate ya always bring us some great car audio bangers!!
Thanks for watching bro
I bought something like this , minus the rear magnet cap , pvc cone and 3 ohm vc and i got it for 25$ from a very competitive market . But it is handmade and has very less sensitivity , requires a lot of power, atleast 600w RMS
holy Hair-Fi Vega batman!
You should review the Rockville k6 :)
Dat bump, as we can see a great box makes a big difference
Superb video. Next time you check voice coil temperatures for S&G’s also check the surround, you’ll be surprised how much heat the surround will create
How about discussing build houses and voice coils etc. Are we all buying the same parts built subs but with just a different logo on them?
Most of them have variations that can make all the difference in performance. A stiffer suspension might look exactly the same as a a looser suspension, but offer more ability to handle abuse while also making it less responsive. All that to say that sometimes things looking similar doesn’t always mean they’re exactly the same.
This is why I use custom subwoofer builders and soon will be building my own. When JL charges 1100+ for there W7’s that are maybe 200-300$ in parts and let’s face it you can get WAY better subs like a pair for 1100. High output alternator and batteries FIRST KIDS 🌝. Then get some equipment. The last comment isn’t for you James it’s for everyone else that just talks about there subs and amps and think that’s all they need.
Awesome to get that much performance and an nice chrome backplate at that price. Good haircut too 👍🏼
👨🏼🦱 yeah boy
Sick , love the ole test bench setup essentially in the rear of the trooper lol That sub is a budget banger for sure
My whole life set up for testing lol
A week ago, I built a 1.58 cu ft w/33" port area for an OZONE-12. It gets down for not much more. The enclosure was originally being designed for a Tropo 12 but I decided I might overpower it a bit & ordered the OZONE instead. Maybe the Tropo would've been fine, better safe than sorry tho.
Yeah for sure I imagine the Ozone is just that much better
Should've made the box volume larger. Like 1.75-2 cubes
I think I’m going to stick to my 2 jl auidio 13.5 w7’s. Compare it to jl audio w7
The w7 is in a whole different league, but it also cost 10x the money.
@@HifiVegaYou’re right the w7 is the bass king.I’ve been there thru the hard times when I had a budget build great review.
@@fresh55n9ne ha! ha! For what you pay for a W7 there are so many other subs that are better and the surrounds won’t disintegrate. But unless you get a H.O Alt and some batteries why bother spending 1000 or more on a sub. I’m running a 300 amp Alt with two XSpower d7500 dual runs of 0 guage power and ground everywhere running a Stetsom 8k to a pair of 15” Adire Kalis in a 10 cubic foot box tuned to 25hz rather be low then loud. But I’m not saying w7’s don’t sound good but I’ve been in the audio game 31 years and most folks I’ve known to rock W7’s have to say they like them to justify paying so much. I also just get custom made subs cause I refuse to pay retail. The W7 is worth maybe 250$ In parts and JL sells it for well over 1000$…. And why would you compare a 1000$+ sub to one that under 200$ a crap Skar VXF 12 would outperform a 13w7 at a 3rd the of the $$.
@@workingclassperson2124 I’m not a spl fan but running 2 alternators you must be serious about the power. I’m into sound quality I’ve ran multiple car audio brands arc audio,JL Audio,Memphis car audio and a lot of other brands I’ve been in the car audio game since 2007 when I was able to afford and buy my first car audio equipment with my hard earned money I started with kicker.
Good looking sub. You said it sounds good? I wonder what 4 would sound like in a cut cab??😮
Thank you for reviewing an sharing. I wonder how much better the Tropo XL is 🤔✌️💯trying to decide on which CT Sounds sub to pick lol ✌️🎛️🎵
These are great subs I had a pair of 12s in a custom box but they didn't like the lows as much. Box might have been a bit small. I think the resilient sounds rs 12 is a better sub for under $150.
Great subwoofer dyno sir keep up the good work 👍
Awesome video as always my old friend!!!
Great Subwoofer!!!!!!
co.pare it to the american bass budget sub i beleive it is a tnt if im not mistaken
Great video man. To the point and very informative. God bless ya
Another great video buddy. That thing is impressive for the cost.
Using the same amp and subwoofer… if you get 500 watts wired 2 ohm and the rewire to get 1000 watts at 1 ohm… do you get a louder subwoofer with the 1000 watt setup at the higher impedance? 🤔
A good subwoofer that I got for $119 was the 15 inch wolfram audio 750 rms but I was running 1k rms through it.
Impressive ,very nice. Now let's see Paul Allen's subwoofer.
A AM1 would be such a cool tool to own the only caveat is it may wanna be called the heart breaker... When you have an actual 5k and you clamp it and you probably see 2 to 3k max watts 95% of the time It puts everything into reality that the sub/s are not seeing no where near that 5k rating ( that's when the smart amps shine), so may be better to live in fantasy world and think man this subs handling 5000 watts!!! Woohoo! I can say unless there's more than enough power to go around efficiency is important my cab45 pushes my old two xr15s noticably better than my new 18 I just built... I will say I used a big power spider by accident it was a 12" 5 layer spider I thought it was a 3 layer so that's a lot of resistance to flex and and all together a lot of mass to move but I never though a 5k amp wouldnt be sufficient but just when it starts to show it's potential it starts to clip😞
I’d like to have an AMM-1 but like you say, I’d probably just be sad to see my amp making 300 watts and not the 3000 it’s rated. I have the OrionHCCA 3000.1Dsplx wired to one ohm. It feels like it’s making power, probably my imagination since I paid a lot of coin for it. (Lot of coin to me, I know it’s probably not much to most peeps)
I don’t see much testing on the CT Sounds meso 8”inch sub.
Very nicely done bro 🤝 thanks for sharing.
Vega keepin up with the best channels on UA-cam again.....!
American Bass Elites or Titans kill this at this price point
I got a 8 and I am going to get a second one and I’ll get a review of what I think of it
Sup buddy,thanks for the vid,I've had my eyes on the mesos myself for a while. Their really nice looking and their at that ratted wattage I need tho,using harmony audio carbon 10's and there so nice
I only had 2 10inch rockford fosgate😏
I bought 2 of these for a friends build and was very impressed!!
I just bought Three of these and Wired to the 1.333ohm load on a Skar 2k Amp.. Coming from Three JL W3 12" 4.ohm Subs, that just Absolutely Knocked in the Full Size Sealed Old Skol Power Wedge Box. I hooked up these, three Tropo's in the Sealed boxes, and they didn't perform at all 😢 Do you think this is because they're really meant for Ported Boxes or Flat out need More Power? I also tried to Hook just one up at the 1 ohm Load and it didn't perform on the 2k amp Either like WTH! So I'm leaning on the Full Size Sealed Box isn't the way to go, Would that be safe to say?
I have a ct sounds on a 6000.1 class d amp and that thing smashes!it’s on my channel
Still gonna buy soundqubed just because the amount of abuse the hds2 and hds3 took when I owned them they were amazing
Soundqubed hds series is great
I have the HDX 15” so far it’s great. I welded the Deaf Bonce w the same price point and the DB hit the lows better which was a let down for the HDX specs say the HDX has lower hertz and more xmax which is why I switched…
dam for that price sounds good to me
Nice subwoofer
Actually go look at a wolfram ti triple slug motor for 120 for the 15 inch
Putting 2 of these 12s on a skar 1200.1
Great video with very good comparisons. But for my money at that price point I am going with the Soundqubed HDS2, it even has a cast aluminum basket.
The Soundqubed subs are great. I ran an HDS 8 for quite a while
@@HifiVega Love you stuff man, found you through Big D. Just thought I would throw my .02 out there lol.
@@RJayRabbit Dereck is the man! Thank you and welcome aboard
Noooooo don't agree with that,,, you can get the E-Series sundown LC series Crossfire C3,, DC Audio Level 1,,, that are more efficient(((( less power for the guys that are going to call me wrong))))) the same performance so nope try again
I almost bought the mid range sub😂 but even that one goes HARD
Very impressive sub for the money. I've looked at tropo before but ended up going with Skar sdr12s. Now i got vxf12s. I think I overpaid 🤣🤣🤣
Hey HiFi I clicked on the affiliate link but it says internal error keep putting out awesome videos 👍♥️
Thats some nice eye candy behind the sub. Wonder where that came from. 😁👍
Come from a super cool dude! I still need to get that one fixed and played with lol.
What do you use to power your amplifier in the house? Great video. I think the Tropo is a great sub also.
Powermax 100a power supply and a battery bank
What is your number one favorite subwoofer. Not talking price.. I've never seen you channel before
Old RF punch dvc or original Kicker XPL. Newer Savard Pro series, Sundown SD series, illusion Audio
Hey dude what’s the best 10 inch for a sealed enclosure? I want good sound quality and for it to hit super hard too. I want to put 4 10’s under the seat of my F150 that has a 3.5 inch seat lift. The reason I want sealed is for all genres is music. Sealed just sounds cleaner in my opinion. Just not sure what subs to get.
Do you ever mess with passive radiators? I added three earthquake slap 12 passive radiators to my sealed six 12 box and it sounds pretty amazing for a budget banner
Yes passive radiators are great for saving space and getting some of the benefits of a ported enclosure
Hello I’m looking at these speaker. 8 inch or 10 in a bazzoka box Do you recommend them ? And the amp s are they. Good also.
For us bass junkies, play it at 20hz for 5 min, then I'll be impressed, because your test isn't really pushing it very hard honestly. None the less, thank you for your time and the content. A test of its frequency response would definitely help.
20hz for 5min would actually allow the woofer to move a little bit more and allow it to cool itself better, but I’ll definitely throw some lower frequency tests in future sub videos for fun.
@@HifiVega that would be awesome! Thanks for the reply!
There's barely anything that can be heard in those 20hz.
Unless you just want the air pushing around.
@@tedtan6449 yeah but you can still feel it. My SVS PB2000 hits super low. I can throw a 15hz test tone to it amd it shakes the house, less since I put the soundpath isolation feet on it but ypu can still feel the pressure.
Can inuseba MD 1800.1 2 ohms amp from taramps to move two of these subs?
My only questions is- how was your watts meter reading a 2ohm load when you have a dual 2ohm coil sub? Should be either 1 ohm or 4 ohms if wired correctly...🤔🤔
That’s impedance rise in action. Anytime you play music the impedance will fluctuate
good video, link says INTERNAL ERROR message ...
From 500 to 1000 rms you would be lucky to increase spl by 3db
This sub looks just like the resilient sounds rs12.....
i have a under seat box on my 17 Ram 1500 extended cab, would these fit?
What’s the most beefy sub I can get for 200-250
Your opinion on the Meso 8”? New version
We want to hear that test
I have all CT products. I'm running 2 ozone 10s wired to one ohm I have their 1500 monoblock and I keep making these 10s smell they are in the sealed box. Too much power or no ventilation?
En realidad cuantos Rms de potencia tiran?
Can anyone help this sub or the skar svr looking for better sound quality
Compare it to the massive audio gtx 124
Crossfire c3 or ampere audio 2.5
Can someone help me out with the specs to this box ??
I have an old school MTX 7500 12 " and definitely need a bigger box. My deceive me though, becuase I would've almost put money on that being a 3cu ft box buddy 😮
I remember you said it it is 2.25 cu internal . That's perfect , mate 💪😎👌
Great video
how do these compare to nvx's?
Skar DDX
K9 for the win! 😂
Is this close to massive gtx124s.
Hmm subs to compare to how about maybe the incriminatory audio I series, crossfire c3, or wolfram ti series. All close to the same price.
It would be a good comparison
I have one its a beast
I've been hearing a lot about Tropo. How would you grade the SQ on the 10 and 12's accuracy?
I think it sounded good. I wouldn’t call it an sq sub, but it played accurate enough for most anyone but the most critical listeners.
Contemplating between a CT or Dayton Reference single sub for my rig. I need to find folks who are running CT around here and have a good listen.
Pioneer subs.
Hello, where did you get the mini bass meter?
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