#10MinuteTalk
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2023
- How to choose an AR-15 optic? Mark Boardman, Jimmy Hamilton, and special guest Mike Griffin from Vortex Edge® tackle this nuanced question head on. From red dots, magnifiers, holographic sights, prism scopes, and LPVO’s, to higher zoom range riflescopes - they cover all these great AR-topping options. Which is right for your AR applications? Listen to find out.
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This 10 minute talk went for 40+ minutes. It’s like a Midwestern goodbye and I’m here for the whole thing. 😂
😂exactly like a Midwestern goodbye 🥲
You guys are the leader in 3x magnifiers and 4x podcasts
Na HM3X is the best
Hey, your sponsored athletes need to hear this message! I am dipping my toes into the Tactical Games and I asked one what entry level optic to get and they said "the Razor 1-10 LVPO! It's what I use! Its great!" While I am sure it is great, I am not going to sell a kidney afford one so i can use it once and decide "Yeah, TTG isn't for me".
No one ever uses the full jack of all trades' quotes. It's almost used in a negative context. Its original phrasing i believe goes as follows, " A jack of all trades is a master of none, but often times better than a master of one." Also, a ten minute talk idea for yah. let's hear Ryan go off on monolithics vs. bonded vs. cup and core. I know Ryan is an avid Barnes user ( as am I ), so i think the topic would be fun to hear his pros and cons and maybe what cartridges lend themself well to monos, etc. Would be quite amazing to invite a barnes Ballistic expert to join the podcast. Cheers from Alberta Canada
7 SAUM on the 10 min talk. Love the show guys.
I'm all for overtime 10-minute talks, but I can't help but wonder if there's a point that you just rename it to a regular podcast episode.
Been all over the spectrum when it comes to optics for my AR. red dots, holos, magnifiers, prisms, lpvos. All of my rifles are set up with some sort of lpvo on it. Its just so universal and once you train for its little quirks with close range acquisition, it literally does everything.
I have astigmatism and red dots look a bit like supernovae to me. Eotech's holographic sight, while pricey, has been the best option as the 1 MOA dot doesn't really distort. I just threw on a MOE SL-S stock so I can store 6 spare CR123 batteries.
Peep primary arms micro prism I love mine
Little tip for a stigmatism and red dots. I didn't use them because of it. But I found out playing with them that if you mount it close as you can to your eye "opposite of what people without do" and you get one with the most brightness settings you can and run it at the lowest level you can use it in the lighting conditions you're in, the dot will appear much better than mounting "normally" and cranking the brightness up. That's worked for me on a couple red dots I've used.
hahahaha "If you're late for work because you thought this was only going to take 10 minutes..." 🤣 You blokes are great - I have learned a tonne on this channel.
One thing I've learned with photography. Older glass doesn't get any worse. Getting an older generation glass is a great way to still get great glass. But newer glass will have better glass as technology progresses, and some must have the newest, and rightfully so to do.
Strictly talking sighting systems: I recently had to make this decision for my "go to" GP rifle, and what made my decision relatively simple was #1) my budget, and #2) my philosophy of use: *Mostly home defense with most, likely engagements 200m and in.*
And what I ended up with was an AR15 with back up irons, a Vortex Crossfire (to be upgraded in the future), and a near-future purchase of a Vortex VMX-3T magnifier (also tbu when appropriate)
Btw, in case you guys missed it, we seem to be having a little trouble with "Chi-Com balloon flyovers," lately, carrying some strange arrays beneath them. Now, if any of those were to deliver an EMP, everything "electronic" will become paperweights--Including even *expensive* electronic sighting systems. So, I highly recommend on not relying on them as the sole sighting systems for your firearms. Food for thought
My mind goes to a prism for that reason - don't need backup irons if you have an etched reticle
@@anonymousAJ Interesting idea, and probly not a bad one. I may do that on a future rifle. But, since I was trained on irons in the military, they're kind of a 'no brainer' for me
Started laughing when I saw the “10 minute talk” was 43 minutes and 54 seconds long
Thoroughly enjoy listening to you guys.
We appreciate that! Thanks for tuning in!
I'm glad to see someone actually bring up the most important point here. If you have a rifle that shoots terribly with hunting ammo, But great with match ammo, well I'd rather put a less than ideal bullet in the right place than the right bullet in the wrong place. Of course I'd rather use the right bullet but sometimes that isn't an option. When I got my 6.5 Grendel the only ammo available at the time was a handful of boxes of SST and plenty of eldm. It shot .5 MOA with the eldm and nearly 5 MOA with SST. At that. Moment I would 1000% choose the eldm over the SST
It would be nice if you would make an enclosed red dot that'll fit on top of the 5x prism. Something in the format of the Steiner MPS, with a cr2032 battery on top and a nice big window, good nv settings, better styling.
Red dots can be cheap, holographics can't, but red dots can also be very expensive, and holgraphics don't tend to be. Personally I can't recommend an EOTech to a new shooter, I'd recommend a T2 copy like a Crossfire to get them in the game, but i do really love my EXPS3. I wish I would have gotten the -2 reticle in case anyone reads this, I got the -0 because I was impatient.
Only vortex store I've been to is in costa rica, right outside of San Jose
Got a spitfire for my brother's duty gun he seems to pleased it.
On my ak I'm currently running a 1-4x Leopold planned on getting a slx micro for it latter.
Red dots are good for me at age 60, but prism optics are better for my father at age 80, with astigmatism. I have Strikefire and Spitfire and Sparc models for general purpose, and magnified to reach out further.
Prism scopes are definitely the way to go if you have an astigmatism!
I would love to hear a talk on the 5.7x28! I have look around a little but can't find very much info this cartridge. I'm wondering, parent case and practicality
An airs😅fr episode would be cool! Thanks for doing what you do guys.
I’d like if vortex came out with a 2-12x 35ish. Pair that with a red dot. I can dream, right?
Acog and offset red dot to this day feels pretty sweet.
I've been asking forever, and figure I will ask some more. How about a podcast on the 9.3x62, 9.3x64 Brenneke, 9.3x66 sako, and any other 9.3 cartridges. And one on all kind of African dg and pg cartridges and Wildcats. 404, 416, 450, 5,6,700s nitro expresses, ect.
Buy the cheapest thing you can find, grow to hate it, upgrade ad infinitum...learn the painful way, be a man.
Buy once cry once is for pussies, real men spend years going through every optic on Amazon from cheapest to most expensive until they land on what they like...
😂😂😂
Lol, brilliant!
Damn I went from a Aimpoint pro to a Holosun AEMS and I don't think I'll ever move away from such SUPELIOLITY
Or...find the Primary Arms SLX/GLX equivalent of whatever is the $1-2k version is "the best".
Urban or suburban settings should be red dot 🔴. Hunting maybe up 4x-6x magnification with .223/.556. Although some us may reach 800-900yds under proper conditions, it will be
Do a 10min talk about the 6.8 TVCM. I want to know what Ryan thinks of the plastic ammo
LPVO is love
^facts
Someone please make a sub 600$ elcan that is lighter than the elcan
@ 23:51 this a misquote by most people. It’s actually “ A jack of all trades, master of none, is better than a master of one! 👊🏼😎👍🏼
Exactly
4x magnifier on the 10 minute talk
I went Razor 1-6E. Why I am a Old Marine who wanted a 20 inch barrel and hunt with it also.
I love my Spitfire 1x
Why discontinue the Gen1 of some of these models though? Could still produce the entry-level models at a less feature filled price.
What percentage of your customers will ever need the ability to need NV settings?
When I was younger I shot many hundreds of ground squirrels offhand with a 3X9X44 dialed to 6 and a half power.
Can you do the 357 mag
Yes talked about air rifles
If you zero a 2moa dot out to 200 yards, the impact is never outside the dot from 40 - 240... close enough for the girls I go out with.
That's what I want to hear. I would break it down by range. Start basic and move forward. I would swap my irons to flip up ladders. Give my current budget red dot to kid for airsoft gun. I am saving for a thermal scope. Thought about a magnifier, but on a budget. Like having dead horses in an engine. Untapped horse power.
This 10 minute talk has a 4x magnifier behind it 😂
😂 😂
Purchased my first LPVO last month and will probably never own another Reddot with magnifier again. I love it that much
Which lpvo did you buy ?
@@texaspatriot9159 if you just wanna dabble give the Swampfox Arrowhead line a try.
@@madeintexas1213
Thanks brotha
i would love a airsoft episode
Red dot for CQB battle/home defense. LVPO for identifying targets at distance or a precise shot. For LVPO get an etched reticle.
Why aren’t red dot etched reticles for safety when the battery dies, you at least have a black dot.
They don't work like a typical scope. I may understand this incorrectly, but I believe you'd have the red dot floating around separately from the fixed etched ret. A red dot doesn't require a cheek weld, there is no front and back post if you will. A fixed reticle requires your eye be in a constant, fixed position to work.
My first optic im going to be purchasing will be the sig Tango 1-6x MSR for my 16inch Ar15.
For 300 bucks it seems like a good entry into the LPVO world for someone buying their first Optic.
Looking to buy a 1-8 lvpo for an 223/556 16inch ar15
Vortex opmod is a great price
@jared matthews thanks I've been looking at some vortex I'll try to find that one and check it out
Look at the Strike Eagle 1-8 LPVO. It has the BDC reticle for 5.56/.223. I love mine!!
What's your price range?
PA SLx 1-8 with the raptor reticle has been my favorite optic since i bought my first one. I own two now for both my 5.56 guns.
Hell yes, airsoft please!
Start with red dot
Find ya need more so get 3-9x40
Think ya need more get 5-25x50
Realize that's too much than get a 1-8 or 4-12.
Simple, and it'll only cost 1500 to find out
get an rmr or iron sight
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That what she said 😏 🤣
The real quote is “ Jack of All Trades Master of One “
The guy that keeps talking about teaching what is he teaching? How to eat a red dot 🔴
Just stop calling them 10 minute talks, you guys aren't even trying anymore.
For gods sake, no I don't want to hear about airsoft. Please. Just don't.
I think it’s time to watch the picture you choose for the video. Two braces shouldered? Come on guys
Stop trying to videos on Spotify, the last couple videos haven’t worked on there and I have to come to YT to listen. I hate YT, you guys should just do better
Maybe you should quit complaining and be greatfull that you have the ability to listen at all!!! All I hear from you is how ungrateful you are! You should do better! You sound like a democrat.
Screen lock your phone and listen. I can't watch at work while I drive, but I can still enjoy the episodes.
There's no real information here just get the old school scope mount it sight it screw it... no batteries
The guy that keeps talking about teaching what is he teaching? How to eat a red dot 🔴