Seems like the yielding really works my shoulders and hamstrings. That's fine, but it doesn't seem very climbing-specific. Shoulder issues aside, wouldn't weighted hangs be more specific?
@ryan weighted hangs are good for sure. One advantage of floor pulls is that it is less load on your shoulders. I've talked to a number of (older) climbers that struggle with traditional hangboarding due to shoulder load. From your finger flexor perspective, floor pulls or overhead pulls aren't much different. The convenience of floor pulls is hard to beat and really helps isolate the fingers flexors. If hamstrings or shoulders get feel fatigued, performing overcoming isometrics with a single hand should solve the issue. Then you could perform weighted pullups separately to target the larger pulling muscles (lats, traps, biceps, etc).
Like, I can do them with shoulders tucked in or straining to keep them out. Is one better? Also, I'm using the flash board, but would something with a wider stance be better, so hands could be shoulder width apart?
@@ryanmcdermott657 That was the intent of this video, but perhaps we didn't explain it well enough. We also discussed in this blog post: pitchsix.com/blogs/blog/overcoming-vs-yielding-isometrics I think the flash board is good, just be careful to not trap the board against your knees and push up as it can add to the weight measurement. The key elements for a body position mimic that of a deadlift at mid-thigh closely: - Some bend in the knees (less required for an overcoming isometric, more if you really want to pull hard yielding) - Flash board from just above the knee to about mid thigh - Back exaggeratedly straight (like you're picking up a fridge) - Shoulder blades together with traps fully engaged - Chest proud (sticking forward)
Seems like the yielding really works my shoulders and hamstrings. That's fine, but it doesn't seem very climbing-specific. Shoulder issues aside, wouldn't weighted hangs be more specific?
@ryan weighted hangs are good for sure. One advantage of floor pulls is that it is less load on your shoulders. I've talked to a number of (older) climbers that struggle with traditional hangboarding due to shoulder load. From your finger flexor perspective, floor pulls or overhead pulls aren't much different. The convenience of floor pulls is hard to beat and really helps isolate the fingers flexors. If hamstrings or shoulders get feel fatigued, performing overcoming isometrics with a single hand should solve the issue. Then you could perform weighted pullups separately to target the larger pulling muscles (lats, traps, biceps, etc).
Thanks. Would be great to have a video that demonstrates best form for these.
Like, I can do them with shoulders tucked in or straining to keep them out. Is one better? Also, I'm using the flash board, but would something with a wider stance be better, so hands could be shoulder width apart?
@@ryanmcdermott657 That was the intent of this video, but perhaps we didn't explain it well enough. We also discussed in this blog post: pitchsix.com/blogs/blog/overcoming-vs-yielding-isometrics
I think the flash board is good, just be careful to not trap the board against your knees and push up as it can add to the weight measurement.
The key elements for a body position mimic that of a deadlift at mid-thigh closely:
- Some bend in the knees (less required for an overcoming isometric, more if you really want to pull hard yielding)
- Flash board from just above the knee to about mid thigh
- Back exaggeratedly straight (like you're picking up a fridge)
- Shoulder blades together with traps fully engaged
- Chest proud (sticking forward)