John's genuine enthusiasm and excitement plus lee's quiet confidence and knowing coolness... only the music being produced can give that much confidence it's a real shame they never realised their dream..
Can't help but like John Power - he just seems to have a real innocent and positive vibe about him, and here it's like he's trying to emulate Mavers' arrogant cool but he can't stop himself from grinning like a kid at Christmas. Such unapologetic positivity in the Cast hits, too. I'd hate to be told I'm wrong, and find out he's a miserable bastard most of the time - but I doubt it. As for Chris Sharrock, he was and is a brilliant musician who seems to have drummed for just about everyone. I had the pleasure of watching and listening to him many times when he played with The Icicle Works. He really used to let rip with that band, all elaborate fills and syncopation. God knows how he endured having to play those 'nice beats' for The La's!
Bit late in the conversation but I can confirm he's the nicest bloke in the music business. Our band Sweet Black Angels supported John at Brixton jamm in London and he spoke to us during soundcheck and afterwards invited us all for a drink back stage! He broke a string on 'Alright' at the end and I leant him my guitar! Later that year we watched Cast in Bristol and we got to the front and he recognised me and said you're the guy that leant me the guitar and we went backstage again, free drinks all night and the whole band were just genuinely nice guys! Supported some other bands that were completely opposite to this!
I remember mavers from the everyman theatre bar mid 80s he was a good lad,they were right about being all over the gaff,everywhere we drank they were there,my mate Tony even had a go drumming with them,good times,nice lads.
this interview makes me sad. you can see how confident they both are and especially Lee. These guys could have been bigger and they deserved it. Its so sad
Liverpool had Lee Mavers and the LA's, Manchester had Ian Brown and The Stone Roses, two great bands with great front men. I think Lee was more enigmatic than Ian though.
@@MarlboroughBlenheim1 all the best were, from Dylan, to Hendrix to Keith to Jim Morrison. all of the best ! he's off it now and has been for yrs apparently. raising a family with 4 kids would be impossible stoned off ya brain.
Jimbo Saul except in Dylan’s case it hugely assisted him and he kicked the habit in 1968 around the motorcycle crash. Hendrix and Morrison - it led to their deaths.
Lee didn't do heroin for long. He was into weed, he only did heroin because he was at a house party once and there wasn't any weed left. He kicked the heroin pretty quickly though. His lack of productivity was mainly due to his obsessiveness and also his paranoia (which was exaggerated by his weed smoking but primarily caused by Go! Discs releasing "the album" against his will/other people putting recordings of unfinished songs out there without his knowledge or consent i.e. the Kitchen Tape/Crescent Tape).
The Good's Gone “at a house party and wasn’t any weed left” so (a) accept you can’t do drugs for once (b) drink or (c) immediately turn to the most lethal and strongly addictive substance known to man.
you always got the feeling that even though lee was a scally and he could kill you with a look he always had the belief and desire to put his music to the masses!!! the only thing is he had to do it his way or no way which i admire! the money he has now pales by comparison of the money he could have made but priciples make a man! this guy had principles!!!!
You can tell that John has respect for Lee he looks to Lee all the time and John continues to respect Lee an interview where they tried to get John to say how "mad" Lee was and John said "he's very talented" not having it.
i don't like comparing bands to the beatles but i think that their one and only album is just as good as any album the beatles made! the beatles in my eyes are the yardstick and i just can't believe this guy will never make another album? oasis said we finnished what the la's started and even though oasis made some amazing music it doesn't come close to the la's! should have been the biggest band in britain maybe the world but it's all could have been's.........
Strong characters the music these guys made in the short time they were together stands up today easily , much better than many of the other indie imititators, oh and the best La's drummer was always Neil Mavers.
@moddave78 yes i do. Thats the great thing about music, it's subjective. i have every album, single, interview etc etc the beatles have done, i have listened to the beatles since i was a kid and i think they are great, i just think with mavers he had the intent! he had songs i could connect with! he wasn't as gifted as lennon or mc cartney in musical content or lyrically but i think the la's album is almost perfect in an imperfect way! not what he wanted but what came out is timeless...
@JonnyKasabian yea for every record out there theres 10000 other bands wantin one as good as their one, that first album is gold (so underrated) but its magic and it will always be there to enjoy. thats success enough in my opinion. Youre right lets just enjoy it!
For me, it's the greatest album ever made. Not just because of what it is in itself, but because of what it stands for. You could just relate to the dream that the man had. It was so high, too high, even for him, with such levels of talent. I'm an aspiring musician myself. Aspiring because I have to finish my college first.
@MrSkeff Yep, co-sign that, even if it were just the once they couldn't have 'just the once'd it better, it's like saying to John Logie Baird "yeah ok you invented the TV but you didn't follow it up by inventing the VCR player did you?" lol
Well, Lee did it to himself. He was given more opportunity than just about any musician/songwriter ever. He crapped on his band, and crapped on the record company.
@Garethfeb16 I get what you're saying, and let me just make it clear, I think the La's are amazing. I also think that they George Best-ed their talent/music career away. I can dig what you're getting at (yes I just used dig in a sentance wtf?) and perhaps that La's album is close to your heart, but for me they made one good album. where as The Beatles kept on reinventing the wheel in an 8 year recording career. 2 blokes opinions, lets leave it at that. cheers mate.
ok listen Barry sutton woz the guitarist who originally played there she goes riff. He deserves credit. hes in the vid. and Mike badger formed them so ther!!!
There were many versions. I wouldn't doubt Barry added a bit to one of them.The single had a bit of input from John Byrne. John played on the single version in 1988. Badger formed the band a year before any other players joined! - He came up with the name, he says, in a dream.
Btw TrainInVain I read in a former La's book (Mike Badger) that Lee managed to get himself into a local Clash show through the back door when he was 14. He was in a punk band before The La's. You may know that already. He always did what he wanted...
I teach adults in Japan and it’s so hard to drop ‘like’. They repeat it sometimes, thinking it’s part of another word and I have to stop and repeat the word correctly for them.
@Garethfeb16 Let's get this straight, you think The La's one and only studio album, which they were never happy with, is as good as anything the beatles made?! The closest Beatles album to The La's, soundwise, is Hard Days Night and I'm sorry but Hard Days Night blows The La's out of the water for sheer perfect 3 minute pop songs. If you still need proof of Beatle superiority just listen to Abbey Road. The best La's stuff is on the BBC sessions album. Check it out.
MrAGrose Year 8 ?? There was no such thing as year 8 in 1988. Was there? There wasn't where I live. In the 80s you were in the middle school 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th year and then you went up to the high school and did the same. I left school in 89, nobody had never heard of year 8 back then. My son did all that when he was at school. I think when he was in his last year it was called year 11. There was no such thing as all that in the 80s.
Johnny Jabsco Technically, you're correct. We called it 2nd year. It was the following year that we first called 3rd year "year 9". I had the debate with myself about what to write but I was trying to be inclusive.
MrAGrose Ok, I wasn't trying to be clever mate. I'd never heard of the new way until my son started school. He's grown up now but I never got my head around what year he was in, even if it is probably easier to understand the new way.
The words 'overrated', 'bland', 'mediocre', 'forgetable', 'derivitive', 'filler', will not be mentionaed again in this thread, I suspect. I bought the album. And it's enjoyable. But...
it wasn't perfection that kept delaying the album, it was Lee Mavers being on smack which caused him to be argumentative, unproductive and unreliable so producers & band members kept leaving, they got through 25 different members before they even released a song. You can see his personality and attitude change if you watch/read the several interviews they did back in the day in order, the grip heroin had on him was getting worse from one to the next
That's inaccurate. There was a lot of weed but nearly everyone in my college and many professors smoked it, none of us had personality issues.The most important reason for attitude changes was frustration and anger at the record company. He was just exacting about getting the sound right. Some members left during recording to get a paying job since they had families to support, one reportedly didn't come to practice enough, unreliable, another was a temp who left as planned to attend Music College. It was not 25 before or during recording either. Early on they tried out many musicians before they had gigs, well before Lee wrote any songs. Try outs don't count. Some who had never played or owned an instrument wanted to try. Everyone who has ever played with Lee would like to say they were a member but many don't count. He's a lovely person but can be tough like a leader has to be sometimes.
what they did was perfection. One album. Perfection.
Yes.
Sure is
Everything else was shit
John's genuine enthusiasm and excitement plus lee's quiet confidence and knowing coolness... only the music being produced can give that much confidence it's a real shame they never realised their dream..
Can't help but like John Power - he just seems to have a real innocent and positive vibe about him, and here it's like he's trying to emulate Mavers' arrogant cool but he can't stop himself from grinning like a kid at Christmas.
Such unapologetic positivity in the Cast hits, too. I'd hate to be told I'm wrong, and find out he's a miserable bastard most of the time - but I doubt it.
As for Chris Sharrock, he was and is a brilliant musician who seems to have drummed for just about everyone. I had the pleasure of watching and listening to him many times when he played with The Icicle Works. He really used to let rip with that band, all elaborate fills and syncopation. God knows how he endured having to play those 'nice beats' for The La's!
I too am a fan of John. Love Cast, one of my most favorite bands ever. So likeable
mrreasonablebubble ahah...
Bit late in the conversation but I can confirm he's the nicest bloke in the music business. Our band Sweet Black Angels supported John at Brixton jamm in London and he spoke to us during soundcheck and afterwards invited us all for a drink back stage! He broke a string on 'Alright' at the end and I leant him my guitar!
Later that year we watched Cast in Bristol and we got to the front and he recognised me and said you're the guy that leant me the guitar and we went backstage again, free drinks all night and the whole band were just genuinely nice guys! Supported some other bands that were completely opposite to this!
They are so insane . They had an understanding of the record industry of someone born in the 30’s
We miss you Lee, please come back soon x
I remember mavers from the everyman theatre bar mid
80s he was a good lad,they were right about being all over the gaff,everywhere we drank they were there,my mate Tony even had a go drumming with them,good times,nice lads.
Tony griffiths??
this interview makes me sad. you can see how confident they both are and especially Lee. These guys could have been bigger and they deserved it. Its so sad
Liverpool had Lee Mavers and the LA's, Manchester had Ian Brown and The Stone Roses, two great bands with great front men. I think Lee was more enigmatic than Ian though.
adore the la's...love this...thank you
Love The La's, Lee Mavers, and John Power - together and apart'
Lee Mavers is a fantastic example of a true musical purist.
Drug addict
@@MarlboroughBlenheim1 all the best were, from Dylan, to Hendrix to Keith to Jim Morrison. all of the best ! he's off it now and has been for yrs apparently. raising a family with 4 kids would be impossible stoned off ya brain.
Jimbo Saul except in Dylan’s case it hugely assisted him and he kicked the habit in 1968 around the motorcycle crash. Hendrix and Morrison - it led to their deaths.
Lee didn't do heroin for long. He was into weed, he only did heroin because he was at a house party once and there wasn't any weed left. He kicked the heroin pretty quickly though. His lack of productivity was mainly due to his obsessiveness and also his paranoia (which was exaggerated by his weed smoking but primarily caused by Go! Discs releasing "the album" against his will/other people putting recordings of unfinished songs out there without his knowledge or consent i.e. the Kitchen Tape/Crescent Tape).
The Good's Gone “at a house party and wasn’t any weed left” so (a) accept you can’t do drugs for once (b) drink or (c) immediately turn to the most lethal and strongly addictive substance known to man.
Lee’s got a cracking accent love it
A rare glimpse on film of Lee Mavers before the light went out.
Dya mean?? He’s not crazy
dave tricks ahah...
@@yeahyeahyeah-7674 relax fool.. who said he was crazy I'm talking about his love for music and expressing himself in front of a media lens
@@DaveTricks_ I am relaxed all I asked is what do you mean..
I've seen recent photos and he seems warm and happy
Awesome footage.
Cheers.
Very nice interview! Interesting things Lee had to say.
Keep the videos coming!
John and Lee are so cute together like two sides of the same coin 🪙 awe 🥺
John Powers looks about 12 😂
This is a great interview
you always got the feeling that even though lee was a scally and he could kill you with a look he always had the belief and desire to put his music to the masses!!! the only thing is he had to do it his way or no way which i admire! the money he has now pales by comparison of the money he could have made but priciples make a man! this guy had principles!!!!
It makes no sense Lee could have made music his way or anyway he wanted to for the past 20 years but nothing nada nowt!!!
The thing that'd make people buzz is some new material.
He knows a good things when he sees one haha go ed lee
great interview
September 2021. Who else?
Still coming here la
The La's are the reason i never cared about Oasis
Arno Nühm but
Ciaran Moran213 but ... lol
Noel loves The La's. I love both the bands. Can't compare. Both had huuuge impact on music.
In an alternate universe, Lee Mavers is playing stadiums and the Gallagher's are working at a pizza place or something
@Alberto I wasnt implying that he did. I was just saying that the he should be more renowned and the Gallaghers should be nobody
You can tell that John has respect for Lee he looks to Lee all the time and John continues to respect Lee an interview where they tried to get John to say how "mad" Lee was and John said "he's very talented" not having it.
i don't like comparing bands to the beatles but i think that their one and only album is just as good as any album the beatles made! the beatles in my eyes are the yardstick and i just can't believe this guy will never make another album? oasis said we finnished what the la's started and even though oasis made some amazing music it doesn't come close to the la's! should have been the biggest band in britain maybe the world but it's all could have been's.........
Can't help myself..obsessed with this band...so truly great
like a rare comet that comes around briefly but leaves a trail....
Love Lee Mavers proper scouse bad boy x
not that sad. theyre songs are still being listened to and intereviews being watched 25 years later.
こんな貴重な映像を日本語字幕で見れるなんて幸運すぎる
それにしても彼はどこへ行ったんだ？やっと活動が再開したと思ったのに…
Lee's got the post MacCulloch hairdo to the max xx
Love that hair man
Looks like Deirdre Barlow in thumbnail 😂😂
What an absolutely correct arsehole you are.
Lee Maver’s=1 Album=Genius.🙏❤️🎵🎸.x
Strong characters the music these guys made in the short time they were together stands up today easily , much better than many of the other indie imititators,
oh and the best La's drummer was always Neil Mavers.
Their accent is sooo thick.
more talent in lee's little finger than in the whole of oasis
Sure. But it's Noel's finger up his ass.
Eh?
@@GergelAni ha true. I regret that silly sounding original comment anyway.
@@deanfowles3707 You regret being a las fan?
@@theculturedthug6609 course not
@COLDSUDDENFURY They look like an early version of The Beatles in that video of "There she goes".
Cork in Ireland & Liverpool are spiritual brothers - same gritty but surreal humour & we both keep saying "Like" all the time!
Lee Mavers Brother is Gary Mavers he played Gordon in Emmerdale
Love for him to do a tour
@moddave78
yes i do. Thats the great thing about music, it's subjective. i have every album, single, interview etc etc the beatles have done, i have listened to the beatles since i was a kid and i think they are great, i just think with mavers he had the intent! he had songs i could connect with! he wasn't as gifted as lennon or mc cartney in musical content or lyrically but i think the la's album is almost perfect in an imperfect way! not what he wanted but what came out is timeless...
@JonnyKasabian yea for every record out there theres 10000 other bands wantin one as good as their one, that first album is gold (so underrated) but its magic and it will always be there to enjoy. thats success enough in my opinion. Youre right lets just enjoy it!
For me, it's the greatest album ever made. Not just because of what it is in itself, but because of what it stands for. You could just relate to the dream that the man had. It was so high, too high, even for him, with such levels of talent. I'm an aspiring musician myself. Aspiring because I have to finish my college first.
@MrSkeff Yep, co-sign that, even if it were just the once they couldn't have 'just the once'd it better, it's like saying to John Logie Baird "yeah ok you invented the TV but you didn't follow it up by inventing the VCR player did you?" lol
I have similar sentiments for John Power.
These guys should have been as big as oasis
Well, Lee did it to himself. He was given more opportunity than just about any musician/songwriter ever. He crapped on his band, and crapped on the record company.
@markmywords312 Cast are back with a fucking brilliant new record!
Has anyone counted the "likes"...;-)?
met Lee & John once round at Honza's flat in Aigburth
how were they
jammed there back in the day
How was Honza ?????
@@jimbosaul3996 you know Honza?! he was nuts he's back in Czech now
@@gazriley624 who was Honza mate? Intriguing stuff
Must be hard work doing these promo interviews. For the band and the presenters.
So When's the 2nd album out then? It's all well and good talking but I'd rather have a new record thanks.
best song ever.
Ian McCullough younger brother
He’s better.
Lee lookes like someone crossed Richey Edwards with Damon Albarn
The Light is still Shining… Walk toward the Light…💡
What happen to Mr. Lee? At least at he saw the light at this point. Sad but beautiful band.
I believe he is a family man and basically hates the music industry
“Like like like like like like”
@Garethfeb16 I get what you're saying, and let me just make it clear, I think the La's are amazing. I also think that they George Best-ed their talent/music career away. I can dig what you're getting at (yes I just used dig in a sentance wtf?) and perhaps that La's album is close to your heart, but for me they made one good album. where as The Beatles kept on reinventing the wheel in an 8 year recording career. 2 blokes opinions, lets leave it at that. cheers mate.
At 4:00, it ´s « I can’t ….. unless I’m making another person…… » fill the blank pls ! :)
He's saying buzz. I find it hard to understand Lee's accent sometimes as an American so I'm sure it's difficult if you're French
@therealDanHeinlein hes got 2 or 3 i think
Cool British accent.
lee mavers looks like someones auntie lmaooo
hahaha
Deidre Barlow
Cool as fuck here
@therealDanHeinlein He has children. Oh and your covers are great.
They are kids.
ok listen Barry sutton woz the guitarist who originally played there she goes riff. He deserves credit. hes in the vid. and Mike badger formed them so ther!!!
Jack Tarmac
He played it, but Mavers wrote it, even Barry Sutton will tell you that.
There were many versions. I wouldn't doubt Barry added a bit to one of them.The single had a bit of input from John Byrne. John played on the single version in 1988. Badger formed the band a year before any other players joined! - He came up with the name, he says, in a dream.
When I first heard there she goes I thought it was R.E.M
@Eightmilesintexas Yeah I was Naive then, he's my next door neighbour.
Really?
Whats this...one direction??
lol no theyre not.
funny...
Do the la’s earn anything from this montage? They should
they say 'like' a lot
northerners, mate. that's how we talk, like.
Scouse
Btw TrainInVain I read in a former La's book (Mike Badger) that Lee managed to get himself into a local Clash show through the back door when he was 14. He was in a punk band before The La's. You may know that already. He always did what he wanted...
I teach adults in Japan and it’s so hard to drop ‘like’. They repeat it sometimes, thinking it’s part of another word and I have to stop and repeat the word correctly for them.
Someones had their sunnies on for too long
Like like like like like like.....like like like like like
Julian Clary.
Nice swan lid
what do you know then????
cough cough the beatles, these guys are great do
Oh my God! Lee is so cute fuck off 🥵🥺
Are they speaking English?
@childbadger Wouldn't be bettered if Mavers had kept writing. Unfortunately he is like Syd Barrett instead
No he's not. He's a father, family man instead.
@Garethfeb16 Let's get this straight, you think The La's one and only studio album, which they were never happy with, is as good as anything the beatles made?! The closest Beatles album to The La's, soundwise, is Hard Days Night and I'm sorry but Hard Days Night blows The La's out of the water for sheer perfect 3 minute pop songs. If you still need proof of Beatle superiority just listen to Abbey Road. The best La's stuff is on the BBC sessions album. Check it out.
Lee Mavers smashing 2020 Karen vibes
hahaa, see lee mavers start fuming when john said "nice beats"
Lee didn't mind much. John made him laugh, helped keep his mood up and was totally dedicated to the band for a long time. Lee's best student.
@@susantodd3233 Student?
The la s were the shit
This can't be 1988 surely? If it is they were well a head of their time with their hair. I don't remember anyone with hair like that in 1988!
Every one round our way had hair like that in 88 and I was in year 8.
manc?
MrAGrose Year 8 ?? There was no such thing as year 8 in 1988. Was there? There wasn't where I live. In the 80s you were in the middle school 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th year and then you went up to the high school and did the same. I left school in 89, nobody had never heard of year 8 back then. My son did all that when he was at school. I think when he was in his last year it was called year 11. There was no such thing as all that in the 80s.
Johnny Jabsco Technically, you're correct. We called it 2nd year. It was the following year that we first called 3rd year "year 9". I had the debate with myself about what to write but I was trying to be inclusive.
MrAGrose Ok, I wasn't trying to be clever mate. I'd never heard of the new way until my son started school. He's grown up now but I never got my head around what year he was in, even if it is probably easier to understand the new way.
Lee was definately a drug addict.....but I guess the Heroin just made him even cooler
he allways looks like he`s just had pastin off his mam..
Steve Kramer at this time probably not. He used heroin in 1990.
The words 'overrated', 'bland', 'mediocre', 'forgetable', 'derivitive', 'filler', will not be mentionaed again in this thread, I suspect. I bought the album. And it's enjoyable. But...
Amazing
it wasn't perfection that kept delaying the album, it was Lee Mavers being on smack which caused him to be argumentative, unproductive and unreliable so producers & band members kept leaving, they got through 25 different members before they even released a song.
You can see his personality and attitude change if you watch/read the several interviews they did back in the day in order, the grip heroin had on him was getting worse from one to the next
That's inaccurate. There was a lot of weed but nearly everyone in my college and many professors smoked it, none of us had personality issues.The most important reason for attitude changes was frustration and anger at the record company. He was just exacting about getting the sound right. Some members left during recording to get a paying job since they had families to support, one reportedly didn't come to practice enough, unreliable, another was a temp who left as planned to attend Music College. It was not 25 before or during recording either. Early on they tried out many musicians before they had gigs, well before Lee wrote any songs. Try outs don't count. Some who had never played or owned an instrument wanted to try. Everyone who has ever played with Lee would like to say they were a member but many don't count. He's a lovely person but can be tough like a leader has to be sometimes.
shame lee mavers became a smackhead
The La's was too dumb that did not make more music. They must be the biggest star in the 90s.
Those guys are one hit wonders. Sh*t, what a waste of time. Going to play Pulp now. Cheer up.
You may think differently if you listen to their 1st album mate
pulp hahahahaha
Deary me. If ever there was a perfect example of a troll - this is it.