Looking class for me beacuse it’s all the other songs on the ablum combined to make this awesome ending section, and it’s a perfect closer to a perfect ablum:)
Awesome video! I live in Germany and became a huge fan of English Rock and Pop around the late 80's. I only found out about The La's through John Powers' next band Cast. Great music and very underappreciated to this day. I hope your channel blows up (in the positive sense of the phrase), cause this is exactly the stuff I enjoy. 👍
I used to see John Power at a flat of a mutual mate occasionally in mid-late 80s but had never met Mavers at the time. One day in Spring (I think 88?) I was sitting near the bandstand in Sefton Park (South L, pool) practising my very poor guitar when Power and Mavers walked by and said hi etc . . they then sat with me from about 4pm to about 8pm and played my guitar and sang their incredible repertoire . . me "know any Dylan"? "Marley"? " The Doors"? " The Who "?, " Beatles"? etc, etc . . I felt blessed to be listening to Mavers singing with total conviction and self belief (Power too) absolute heaven ! People are entitled to their opinions but I can tell any of their knockers that those lads could play and sing with one acoustic gtr, no gimmicks, effects etc with such heartfelt conviction . . it was a sublime experience . . and it was my own one-man audience FREE concert on a beautiful sunny evening . I never did get to see them in a gig but I've told many people about that one magical time in Sefton Park . . Never bettered ! Personally, I can see why TS Goes was put out as " the hit" but I consider Timeless Melody and Looking Glass as their Magnum Opus !
When The La's broke, I was listening pretty much only to NY hip hop, and thrash or punk from anywhere. That La's album stopped me in my tracks. It sounded like 50% of my parent's record collection condensed into one album. So pleased that Power went on to succeed with Cast. I've not met him but through all the interviews I've read and seen he seems like a top, er, La'
fantastic story.... & i agree that "timeless melody" is an incredibly beautiful tune.... However, "there she goes" really is a great tune, too! ..its just over-exposure that kinda numbs us to how good it really is. How DARE you call it a "HIT"!! lol, haha, just teasing
I was rehearsing with my band in London and staying at the Everard Hotel. One evening after rehearsals I went to the hotel and these 3 cocky lads were kind of bragging about the new songs they'd written. They insisted they get their acoustic guitars and play me their songs in the lounge. I wasn't expecting much but they absolutely blew me away with their 60's pop sensibilities. Later on I discovered the band was called The La's.
they were tight like a cult and were into some dark magic kind of stuff if you dig my meaning. They have the symbolism on their album which is occult like by nature and they were definitely taking acid and other substances while creating their music. Sadly the lead singer thought he was Mozart and fcked it up for everyone else in the band. Nothing worse than a self entitled little upstart to ruin everything. I don't believe Lee was a genius at all, I believe he was clever enough to be able able to copy the melodies beetles songs and old folk tunes to create his own blend of songs the way he'd want them to sound. It's a great album though, like lightening in a bottle these types of albums only strike once. I don't think they would have bettered it with future albums but I agree, the production does sound over produced and overworked.
@@contesketchup2981 I totally agree with everything you said and I dig your meaning regarding the 'dark magic' stuff. I've researched a lot of the Kabbalah/Freemasonry/Alex Crowley/MK Ultra etc, and yes the one eye symbolism on the cover. I agree with the sociopath lead singer syndrome and had the experience. Great album though.🕋
@@byke-j7l Ironically he had it right when he said the music already exists people just tap into it. Well of course I am paraphrasing. How musicians deal with that connection and relationship is interesting. As a musician, I experience that. As does anyone that plays music. It is no surprise some get pulled into the magic of it. Even Christian music has these elements. Lucifer was known for music was he not?
The La’s album did exactly that thing for me like no other studio band had since The Beatles: made me a better songwriter who actually wanted to share his music by forming a band. ‘Complex simplicity’ is, in my experience, the key to successful composing.
I find it crazy that there are no videos like this about Shack who were another underrated forgotten Liverpool band from the 90s. They had similar problems with heroin and are also shrouded in mystery. Their album Waterpistol wasn’t released on time due to the tapes being lost. Michael head the lead singer is a genius and he has had a late rebirth at the age of 60 he is still making albums and receiving critical acclaim for them. I would love for someone to do a video on Shack
Thanks for featuring the La’s. When they were forced to tour the album they played here in Los Angeles and were forced by the record company to have various “meet and greets” and Lee Mavers’ misery was palpable. It was already common knowledge that he was forced to promote an album that he considered inferior versions of the songs. Despite its classic status, I don’t think he’s a fan.
I was lucky enough to see The La's support The Alarm at The Town & Country Club Kentish Town in November 1987 when I was 18 they were second on the bill after a band called Hard Rain & they were fantastic, me & my mate were right down the front. I went out & bought the original release 12 inch of There She Goes in 1988 which only got to No. 59 on its first release.
This is one of those times I open UA-cam and find a video that feels like it was made just for me. What the song means to me: for one it’s just a perfect pop song, no explanation needed. But to me this song is special because it was on the soundtrack to the movie Parent Trap; I had insomnia as a kid and would stay up all night rewinding and rewatching that vhs until I finally fell asleep. I was often scared being the only one still awake in the house, so that movie (and consequently, this song) provided me a lot of comfort as a kid, and actually still do.
Thank you for the view and comment, and fort sharing your memory of the song. I always associate it with my childhood too. A lot of those early-Britpop bands bring lots of great memories for me.
I can hear the words of heroin addiction in the song, but where my mind goes to is a longing desire for a beautiful girl that is nearby, yet always just out of reach. It has been used in a lot of cool movies and TV shows (e.g., Gilmore Girls).
A friend in a position to know has told me that there's really not much ambiguity here. Apparently Mavers makes a tidy little bit of money here and there on licensing the song and from covers of it, and that's all rooted in a belief of the innocent mis-read of the song being about a lovestruck lad, overwhelmed by "she" and "her". And that income goes away if he ever comes out and says that what the song's really about is smashing a junk-filled needle into your arm or between your toes. And so yes, as you put it, he's quite elliptical, but...darker meaning indeed. That was the origin story for the song, if you will.
Or smashing that needle into your groin and your arm and feet veins are dead. I had a 20 year addiction myself but I smoked it and never injected. I saw some horrendous things over those years, abscesses rotting holes in people yet they continued to inject into that same area. I live in a small North Essex town and lost over 30 mates to that drug.
Lee was obsessed with words and particularly being didactic like beefheart . The downside to that is no one knows what the you’re talking about . He never realised that and was frustrated and frustrating . There’s only so much of that a man can take .
I always thought 'There She Goes' was about Heroin.. Plenty of songs were .. Golden Brown.. The Stranglers Another Girl, Another Planet.. The Only Ones Shivers... Boys Next Door There was mobs back then.
American here - we had Lee Majors, The Six Million Dollar man - more or less the same guy as your Mavers (other than occupation, demeanor, outlook and worldview, looks, features, time period, etc...) but otherwise identical cheers mates - let me know if you need further help
No, I would seriously bet this song has ZERO meaning; it's a lightweight pop song, standard boy-girl subject matter, where the lyricist used the word "vein(s)" to rhyme with "again". It's as meaningless as your average McCartney song.
popular music, like any art form, is subjective to personal interpretation, analysis, critique and eventual rumors. Unless an artist is documented stating their exact intent in creating some art, we can assume everything can be made into a plausible story. Entertaining stuff, nonetheless
In 1987, my mum was walking around the house singing in a staccato stuttering style ‘There, she, goes, theeere she goes. Again’ I asked if it was an old sixties pop song that o didn’t know. She replied that she heard it on the radio. A year later, The LA’s single played in the local radio in Manchester. I always thought it this perfect slice of pop had been regurgitated somehow. How interesting…
@@JasonUmbrellabird yer that’s what I mean, she was singing it a year before so it must’ve been in her subconscious so makes sense that’s it’s been liberated from another song
Many songs are about smack…. Golden brown - stranglers. Perfect day - Lou Reed And more I can’t be bothered to type. Yet they still insist on their war against drugs.
The Las helped get me through a struggle with cancer. I saw them in Minneapolis at 1st Avenue the Summer I was in the midst of chemotherapy. I remember rocking out with not one hair on my head. Well, maybe some eyelashes. Thanks for the post. Now DO HAPPY HEAD please‼
The Las album pays endless rewards, it always moves me beyond words every time I play it. I’ve been listening to it for over 30 years and will continue to listen to it until the end of days and beyond. I Am The Key is another classic Lee Mavers song that there’s only a demo version of. I love all the tracks on the album but if I had to pick a favourite it would be Looking Glass - a casual cosmic classic. They’re all timeless melodies 👍
@@neilmclaughlin2347 You're right, tbf. La Folie has some great songs - Tramp, The Man They Love to Hate, etc. etc. It's blighted by rubbish like Non-Stop Nun and Pin-Up though. Meninblack doesn't even have a decent single though.
I listened to this album as a 13-year-old in the suburbs of Chicago when it came out. (The older guys told me about it). I went on to drum for Barry Sutton in a little tour of California 30 years later! You never know what life will bring. Yes, and Barry didn’t even play on it. That’s a shame, he deserved to. It’s also a shame that Lee has untreated mental health issues. Could be a lot more great music out there.
Wow, this brings back memories, thank you! Do you mind if I just make a constructive criticisms - you have a lot of plosives in the mic audio in this video. Please look into your mic technique and / or getting some kind of pop filter or windshield, because many viewers find it hard to tolerate listening to plosives, especially when using headphones, as I'm doing now. Thank me later! Good luck with your channel!
Thank you Gavin, really helpful comment and definitely something that has been on my mind. I'm going to look into this properly. Glad you enjoyed the video!
: Looking Glass is just about as close to a perfect album closer as you can get. I'd even go so far to say that if your career as a recording artist were to end after that track, you ought not to have anything to mourn.
he is alluding to heroine, and heroines, but also as with many songs and films, is chasing the story of the elusive muse the music, itself. "there she goes, pulsing through my veins."
I was walking down church street in the eighties, and a pigeon shat on my head ,mother said it was good luck ,I thought she was wrong then and I think she is wrong now
No one ever blows me away with their 60s pop sensibilities. I like the La’s because they are good. I couldn’t give a shite about the 60s. And socialism aka, faith in government control, has worked so well, historically - mind control is amazing. So is fascism. Yay Marx.
Mavers was a troubled soul, genius being the knife edge that it is...he mind was his own worst enemy...however lee mavers is a genius and his contribution to music cant be understated...the singles and album he wrote were fantastic, even the bootlegs of songs floating about post the album/post la's are fantastic. The la's did perform again in later years, but it seems unlikely that any new material is forthcoming, but we live in hope...gone, but never forgotten.
I read in the guitarist magazine early 2000’s I think That the main downfall of the LA’s was he’s obsession with 1950’s Vox amp sound at gigs and would throw temper tantrums if it didn’t sound right!
Wonderful song. I'd say it's a smack reference, The Velvet Underground 'There She Goes Again' but maybe it really is just a heartbreakingly good song about infatuation. Who knows...
I was probably one of the first people to hear this song. I was in a band in the late 80s and one night after a gig we were staying in Lancaster Gate Hotel in London when these guys came in. We got chatting and went upstairs to their room for a smoke and drink and they played us their demo. I remember sitting on the floor and Lee was standing on his bed, this song came on and my jaw dropped. They were nice fellas, younger than us, but I knew I'd heard something special. You don't believe me? Fine.
Im not saying or describing this for effect but when i saw them in Manchester in 1990 i was gripped by Mavers edge and look but the sound was majestic when i was checking him out i couldnt believe his presence and aura about him,i dont give out platitudes easily but i was taken in by him his stage craft and his working class was really evident and obvious you could sense he was telling the truth and his myth and Mavers reckless way he treated the press was really staggering he completed vanished from the press,i can remember going through the music press hoping to reach maybe a small utternance or photograph of him but there was nothing in my view that just added to his myth and his legendary status because i was taken in by him,i dont know why he isolated himself from view to his fan and im unsure why this occured but he made a massive impact and impression on me ive seen hundreds of bands but there was without doubt something going on with him even his haircut his clothes that were snapshots of guys i used to see in North Manchester and Salford even the way they walked with reckless abandonment but i noted that working class guys in especially Salford and they took pride in their appearance and to this day that influenced me even more than most,Mavers had the complete game of this and there was something magical to see it in full show he took his art form so so seriously and personally it really gripped me on every level imaginable.
Thanks for the great video, this album taks me back to being in my late teens - great music. I realised I never fully understood why they didn't produce another studio album. But now I do, thank you!
Fantastic song all around. All the mojo. Sadly it was co-opted by Sixpence None The Richer during the oft tiresome and shitty trend of female singers that was polluting the airwaves at the time with mediocre material. Their superior version will stand the test of time though I am sure.
It's not the 'Lars' but a scouse pronunciation of lads i.e. without pronouncing the 'd' (hence the apostrophe for the missing 'd' (it's not a greengrocer's apostrophe).
Was working for a record distributor when I got a promo copy of the CD. It didn't leave my player for months. In my mind it was skiffle / Merseybeat put through this incredible, raw, real voice (Mavers), and they were creating amazing hooks that were so sharp. It was miles away from what was popular here in Toronto, but those that heard it loved it. I remember them being interviewed on MuchMusic and Mavers telling fans NOT to buy the record because Lillywhite ruined it. I knew he was different right then. I still love that record and listen to it every so often.
@jasonlefler3456 the key 103 radio appearance seems to be the best version of 'i am the key' floating about...there are bootleg recordings of them performing it live in the day but the key 103 version is the clearest as it was radio broadcast quality.
Listen to the demo on youtube: "there she goes demo 1987". It's so good. You can see why Mavers had so much trouble recording this song. Like trying to bottle lightning.
There she goes again reminds me of Badge by Cream; it a great jangling song that ends too soon, as did the band. Do a video on Big Country, their first album.
Loved that album, bought it on audio cassette, when it came out. All songs offer something special and it should always be listened to as one 35 minute piece of near perfection, imho.
Something very ethereal about the La's. Prophetic even? Looking Glass predicts the Smart Phone, The World Wide Web (until the 'web' is spun. Everybody must have fun) and Cast....
thou there was some suspension of it being a bout something habit form.i think it was adopted or adapted as a sweet pop song.ala sixpence non the richers sappy saccharin version.
Can’t believe I never pieced it together because it seems so obvious. I feel like my whole life is a lie. It’s always about drugs. Never as innocent as it seems
Dude your writing for this video is fantastic. Nice narration too. Great work. Can’t wait for more. I can attest to trying to capture the magic of demos, even in my limited experience. It’s brutal and probably impossible. It’s sound great to everyone else but you know that sparkle is missing, the thing that makes the recording soar. Join that with a heroine addiction could make it a nightmare process.
Great video. Thank you! What was the music you used at the end, with the strings? I think it was the same you used at the open? Love it. It’s that background music and how it sounded with your voice over, the atmosphere it created. Wonderful.
Thank you very much for your comment, I'm really glad you liked the way I put the doc together! All the music used in this video is non-licenced music I've found on various sites. At some point in the future I'll get round to including the music used in the Description of the video. Thanks again!
Whether Mavers had dabbled with the gear when writing There She Goes, I don't know. He'd probably have had the opportunity, it was rife in Liverpool in the 80's. But I highly doubt he was a frequent user while The La's were still recording and gigging. The signs are pretty obvious, I saw them live a few times back then and they always showed up and played well. Which I think would've been unlikely for someone gripped by a smack habit. Saw Mavers backstage at an Oasis gig in the mid 90's (friends were on their road crew) and that was a different story, he was gouching his tits off and I was such a big fan that it really upset me.
Can you do 'The Strange Idols Pattern and Other Short Stories' by Felt? or Ignite the Seven Cannons, the album before it? Felt were a rather very under the radar, cult band from the 80s, (classically trained) guitarist Maurice Deebank has been named by quite a few later 90s and even 2000s shoegaze and other bands as influence on the guitar. And of course, Lawrence was/is quite a person
Thank you for the view and comment. That's a good idea - I actually watched Lawrence of Belgravia not that long ago. I have a few videos in the pipeline but I may return to this idea after that.
We all love the story of a tortured genius songwriter who was done dirty by the music industry, and there are many real life examples of this. But if you read between the lines, this may also be a classic example of someone letting the perfect become the enemy of the good. Several well-known producers who have been very successful with other artists tried to work with The La's, but none of them were good enough for Lee Mavers. Maybe he was born in the wrong era: in 2024, you can buy software for your laptop, learn how to engineer, and make your own record at home. This wasn't an option in 1987.
It must have been not long after the release of the album that I heard it playing in a record store, in a bigger city, on a day trip with a friend. Bought it, still one of the best albums for me. Live they must have been phenomenal, Mavers voice was, even on a recording he apparently wasn't happy with, shockingly powerful, the only thing that seems to exist anymore in that moment. Thanks for this unexpected walk down memory lane some 30+ years later.
The 80 s indi classic that was they say the Foundation stone of Brit pop when x members formed The Cast it was said when they reassured the LA s record for the charts that he was trying to catch the moment Liverpool skiffle turns into 60s beat pop/ mersey beat N the follow up hit got there I got the Dulux version of LP with all the out take versions of the LP
Let me know your favourite track on the album and what this record means to you! Which album should I do next?
The opener "Son of a Gun" is great, and "I Can't Sleep" rocks pretty hard.
@@bigbadbillb I love the interplay of the guitars on I Can't Sleep. Thank you for watching!
Looking class for me beacuse it’s all the other songs on the ablum combined to make this awesome ending section, and it’s a perfect closer to a perfect ablum:)
The start of ‘I.O.U’ with the instruments vamping and the volume coming up…one of my favourite experiences in a life of listening to music.
Awesome video! I live in Germany and became a huge fan of English Rock and Pop around the late 80's. I only found out about The La's through John Powers' next band Cast. Great music and very underappreciated to this day.
I hope your channel blows up (in the positive sense of the phrase), cause this is exactly the stuff I enjoy. 👍
I used to see John Power at a flat of a mutual mate occasionally in mid-late 80s but had never met Mavers at the time. One day in Spring (I think 88?) I was sitting near the bandstand in Sefton Park (South L, pool) practising my very poor guitar when Power and Mavers walked by and said hi etc . . they then sat with me from about 4pm to about 8pm and played my guitar and sang their incredible repertoire . . me "know any Dylan"? "Marley"? " The Doors"? " The Who "?, " Beatles"? etc, etc . . I felt blessed to be listening to Mavers singing with total conviction and self belief (Power too) absolute heaven ! People are entitled to their opinions but I can tell any of their knockers that those lads could play and sing with one acoustic gtr, no gimmicks, effects etc with such heartfelt conviction . . it was a sublime experience . . and it was my own one-man audience FREE concert on a beautiful sunny evening . I never did get to see them in a gig but I've told many people about that one magical time in Sefton Park . . Never bettered ! Personally, I can see why TS Goes was put out as " the hit" but I consider Timeless Melody and Looking Glass as their Magnum Opus !
When The La's broke, I was listening pretty much only to NY hip hop, and thrash or punk from anywhere.
That La's album stopped me in my tracks. It sounded like 50% of my parent's record collection condensed into one album.
So pleased that Power went on to succeed with Cast. I've not met him but through all the interviews I've read and seen he seems like a top, er, La'
Very cool story ! I'm sure the lads inspired you to keep at music and you will get the hang of it !
fantastic story.... & i agree that "timeless melody" is an incredibly beautiful tune.... However, "there she goes" really is a great tune, too! ..its just over-exposure that kinda numbs us to how good it really is. How DARE you call it a "HIT"!! lol, haha, just teasing
A wonderful story. Check out my comment❤
Fantastic raw energy, beautiful life changing stuff, conduits from the god's
I was rehearsing with my band in London and staying at the Everard Hotel. One evening after rehearsals I went to the hotel and these 3 cocky lads were kind of bragging about the new songs they'd written. They insisted they get their acoustic guitars and play me their songs in the lounge. I wasn't expecting much but they absolutely blew me away with their 60's pop sensibilities. Later on I discovered the band was called The La's.
they were tight like a cult and were into some dark magic kind of stuff if you dig my meaning. They have the symbolism on their album which is occult like by nature and they were definitely taking acid and other substances while creating their music. Sadly the lead singer thought he was Mozart and fcked it up for everyone else in the band. Nothing worse than a self entitled little upstart to ruin everything. I don't believe Lee was a genius at all, I believe he was clever enough to be able able to copy the melodies beetles songs and old folk tunes to create his own blend of songs the way he'd want them to sound. It's a great album though, like lightening in a bottle these types of albums only strike once. I don't think they would have bettered it with future albums but I agree, the production does sound over produced and overworked.
@@contesketchup2981 I totally agree with everything you said and I dig your meaning regarding the 'dark magic' stuff. I've researched a lot of the Kabbalah/Freemasonry/Alex Crowley/MK Ultra etc, and yes the one eye symbolism on the cover. I agree with the sociopath lead singer syndrome and had the experience. Great album though.🕋
@@byke-j7l Ironically he had it right when he said the music already exists people just tap into it. Well of course I am paraphrasing. How musicians deal with that connection and relationship is interesting. As a musician, I experience that. As does anyone that plays music. It is no surprise some get pulled into the magic of it. Even Christian music has these elements. Lucifer was known for music was he not?
@@byke-j7l so what was your band called?
@@byke-j7l Like your pet goat Baphomet on your page? That stuff will only lead one into servitude with the demons
Great video! I don’t have a clue how a channel with this level of quality can be so unknown. People are missing out, keep it up!
I really appreciate your comment. Thank you! More videos on the way
@@TheTitleTrack_Music I really appreciate your commeeeeennnnnt. Thank youuuuuu! More videos on the waaaaaaaay
The La’s album did exactly that thing for me like no other studio band had since The Beatles: made me a better songwriter who actually wanted to share his music by forming a band. ‘Complex simplicity’ is, in my experience, the key to successful composing.
I find it crazy that there are no videos like this about Shack who were another underrated forgotten Liverpool band from the 90s. They had similar problems with heroin and are also shrouded in mystery. Their album Waterpistol wasn’t released on time due to the tapes being lost. Michael head the lead singer is a genius and he has had a late rebirth at the age of 60 he is still making albums and receiving critical acclaim for them. I would love for someone to do a video on Shack
The Magical World of the Strands is an absolute masterpiece, criminally underrated.
I... think I need to check all this out
You find it crazy that a band that didn’t have a “hit” remotely close to There She Goes doesn’t have videos?
I have now listened to Waterpistol and The Magical World of the Strands. Verdict: ...pretty good! Nice and calming.
@@jamespohl-md2eq it’s not all about ‘hits’ is it mate? Just good music
Thanks for featuring the La’s. When they were forced to tour the album they played here in Los Angeles and were forced by the record company to have various “meet and greets” and Lee Mavers’ misery was palpable. It was already common knowledge that he was forced to promote an album that he considered inferior versions of the songs. Despite its classic status, I don’t think he’s a fan.
Thank you for your view and comment. It's sad to see how much Lee denigrates the album when it is loved by so many.
I was lucky enough to see The La's support The Alarm at The Town & Country Club Kentish Town in November 1987 when I was 18 they were second on the bill after a band called Hard Rain & they were fantastic, me & my mate were right down the front. I went out & bought the original release 12 inch of There She Goes in 1988 which only got to No. 59 on its first release.
This is one of those times I open UA-cam and find a video that feels like it was made just for me.
What the song means to me: for one it’s just a perfect pop song, no explanation needed. But to me this song is special because it was on the soundtrack to the movie Parent Trap; I had insomnia as a kid and would stay up all night rewinding and rewatching that vhs until I finally fell asleep. I was often scared being the only one still awake in the house, so that movie (and consequently, this song) provided me a lot of comfort as a kid, and actually still do.
Thank you for the view and comment, and fort sharing your memory of the song. I always associate it with my childhood too. A lot of those early-Britpop bands bring lots of great memories for me.
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Got to be Timeless Melody for me❤
Great tune. Another one that is a bit of a sleeper hit is All By Myself.
@@TheTitleTrack_Music Agreed
Covered by Pearl Jam in 2000 in Manchester
@@RatSpetsnaz1967 love ❤️ that track
One of the greatest albums full stop. Pure gold.
The song is a masterpiece. In late 1988, I saw the band playing in the mezzanine of Warren Street tube station at the far end of Oxford Street.
I can hear the words of heroin addiction in the song, but where my mind goes to is a longing desire for a beautiful girl that is nearby, yet always just out of reach. It has been used in a lot of cool movies and TV shows (e.g., Gilmore Girls).
A friend in a position to know has told me that there's really not much ambiguity here. Apparently Mavers makes a tidy little bit of money here and there on licensing the song and from covers of it, and that's all rooted in a belief of the innocent mis-read of the song being about a lovestruck lad, overwhelmed by "she" and "her". And that income goes away if he ever comes out and says that what the song's really about is smashing a junk-filled needle into your arm or between your toes. And so yes, as you put it, he's quite elliptical, but...darker meaning indeed. That was the origin story for the song, if you will.
Or smashing that needle into your groin and your arm and feet veins are dead. I had a 20 year addiction myself but I smoked it and never injected. I saw some horrendous things over those years, abscesses rotting holes in people yet they continued to inject into that same area. I live in a small North Essex town and lost over 30 mates to that drug.
@davekennedy6315 I lost lots of friends to smack. Evil stuff.
Fascinating.
@davekennedy6315.
Hi Dave, can I ask how you kicked the habit? ( asking for a friend )
Did you have to use Subitex? Or did you go into rehab? Thanks ✌
Lee was obsessed with words and particularly being didactic like beefheart . The downside to that is no one knows what the you’re talking about . He never realised that and was frustrated and frustrating . There’s only so much of that a man can take .
I always thought 'There She Goes' was about Heroin..
Plenty of songs were ..
Golden Brown..
The Stranglers
Another Girl, Another Planet..
The Only Ones
Shivers...
Boys Next Door
There was mobs back then.
American here - we had Lee Majors, The Six Million Dollar man - more or less the same guy as your Mavers (other than occupation, demeanor, outlook and worldview, looks, features, time period, etc...) but otherwise identical
cheers mates - let me know if you need further help
They are like two peas in a pod. Thank you for the view and your support!
No, I would seriously bet this song has ZERO meaning; it's a lightweight pop song, standard boy-girl subject matter, where the lyricist used the word "vein(s)" to rhyme with "again". It's as meaningless as your average McCartney song.
popular music, like any art form, is subjective to personal interpretation, analysis, critique and eventual rumors. Unless an artist is documented stating their exact intent in creating some art, we can assume everything can be made into a plausible story. Entertaining stuff, nonetheless
In 1987, my mum was walking around the house singing in a staccato stuttering style ‘There, she, goes, theeere she goes. Again’
I asked if it was an old sixties pop song that o didn’t know.
She replied that she heard it on the radio.
A year later, The LA’s single played in the local radio in Manchester.
I always thought it this perfect slice of pop had been regurgitated somehow.
How interesting…
'88
@@JasonUmbrellabird yer that’s what I mean, she was singing it a year before so it must’ve been in her subconscious so makes sense that’s it’s been liberated from another song
I bought the single in 88. Still got it to this day...id heard it on piccadilly radio too...
@@johnnymancspiceso what you are trying to say hamfistedly is they stole it? That’s not true or interesting
Many songs are about smack…. Golden brown - stranglers.
Perfect day - Lou Reed
And more I can’t be bothered to type.
Yet they still insist on their war against drugs.
The Las helped get me through a struggle with cancer. I saw them in Minneapolis at 1st Avenue the Summer I was in the midst of chemotherapy. I remember rocking out with not one hair on my head. Well, maybe some eyelashes.
Thanks for the post.
Now DO HAPPY HEAD please‼
Thanks for the lovely comment and sharing this memory. It must have been a brilliant gig!
i dont get why they recorded a song he couldnt sing live
The Las album pays endless rewards, it always moves me beyond words every time I play it. I’ve been listening to it for over 30 years and will continue to listen to it until the end of days and beyond. I Am The Key is another classic Lee Mavers song that there’s only a demo version of. I love all the tracks on the album but if I had to pick a favourite it would be Looking Glass - a casual cosmic classic. They’re all timeless melodies 👍
Whoah I never knew Lee was a big Stranglers fan. Up until Meninblack they were an incredible band.
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Funny, I think it’s after La Folie that the quality dips.
@@neilmclaughlin2347 You're right, tbf. La Folie has some great songs - Tramp, The Man They Love to Hate, etc. etc. It's blighted by rubbish like Non-Stop Nun and Pin-Up though. Meninblack doesn't even have a decent single though.
lee played bass in the first band he was in neuklon, he was apparently a big jj brunel fan
Of course it's about Heroin.
The Only Ones, Another girl, Another planet and
The Stranglers, Don't bring Harry and Golden Brown are also Heroin songs.
Aye. The Velvet Underground: 'There She Goes Again'.
I listened to this album as a 13-year-old in the suburbs of Chicago when it came out. (The older guys told me about it). I went on to drum for Barry Sutton in a little tour of California 30 years later! You never know what life will bring. Yes, and Barry didn’t even play on it. That’s a shame, he deserved to. It’s also a shame that Lee has untreated mental health issues. Could be a lot more great music out there.
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Wow, this brings back memories, thank you! Do you mind if I just make a constructive criticisms - you have a lot of plosives in the mic audio in this video. Please look into your mic technique and / or getting some kind of pop filter or windshield, because many viewers find it hard to tolerate listening to plosives, especially when using headphones, as I'm doing now. Thank me later! Good luck with your channel!
Thank you Gavin, really helpful comment and definitely something that has been on my mind. I'm going to look into this properly. Glad you enjoyed the video!
: Looking Glass is just about as close to a perfect album closer as you can get. I'd even go so far to say that if your career as a recording artist were to end after that track, you ought not to have anything to mourn.
Spot on
Great vid. One of the best LPs. Subbed. Next LP? A life with Brian…flowered up?
he is alluding to heroine, and heroines, but also as with many songs and films, is chasing the story of the elusive muse the music, itself. "there she goes, pulsing through my veins."
I was walking down church street in the eighties, and a pigeon shat on my head ,mother said it was good luck ,I thought she was wrong then and I think she is wrong now
I seen the La's in 1987 supporting Joe Strummer at the Royal Court Theatre Liverpool 😊😊
No one ever blows me away with their 60s pop sensibilities. I like the La’s because they are good. I couldn’t give a shite about the 60s. And socialism aka, faith in government control, has worked so well, historically - mind control is amazing. So is fascism. Yay Marx.
Mavers was a troubled soul, genius being the knife edge that it is...he mind was his own worst enemy...however lee mavers is a genius and his contribution to music cant be understated...the singles and album he wrote were fantastic, even the bootlegs of songs floating about post the album/post la's are fantastic. The la's did perform again in later years, but it seems unlikely that any new material is forthcoming, but we live in hope...gone, but never forgotten.
A genius can write a chorus ..another one who has fell for the hype
I read in the guitarist magazine early 2000’s I think
That the main downfall of the LA’s was he’s obsession with 1950’s Vox amp sound at gigs and would throw temper tantrums if it didn’t sound right!
I’ve been clean for coming up to 2years now if you’ve ever had a heroin habit it’s the perfect description of the high NO ONE ELSE CAN EASE MY PAIN 😢
Wonderful song. I'd say it's a smack reference, The Velvet Underground 'There She Goes Again' but maybe it really is just a heartbreakingly good song about infatuation. Who knows...
I was probably one of the first people to hear this song. I was in a band in the late 80s and one night after a gig we were staying in Lancaster Gate Hotel in London when these guys came in. We got chatting and went upstairs to their room for a smoke and drink and they played us their demo. I remember sitting on the floor and Lee was standing on his bed, this song came on and my jaw dropped. They were nice fellas, younger than us, but I knew I'd heard something special. You don't believe me? Fine.
Do you think the demo was way better than the song on the album?
You're full of it!😂
Anything about Echo and the Bunny men would be fantastic. Regardless you have got yourself a new subscriber....
Finally a good video on this masterpiece of musical history! Bravisimo!
Thank you very much - I'm glad you enjoyed! More to come, please stay tuned
Heroin,the song is all about Heroin,anyone who says otherwise is talking bullshit.
Yes that single is great but in my opinion ‘Starry Eyes’ by the Records , ‘Shake Some Action ‘ by the Flamin Groovies are just as good
Im not saying or describing this for effect but when i saw them in Manchester in 1990 i was gripped by Mavers edge and look but the sound was majestic when i was checking him out i couldnt believe his presence and aura about him,i dont give out platitudes easily
but i was taken in by him his stage craft and his working class was really evident and obvious you could sense he was telling the truth
and his myth and Mavers reckless way he treated the press was really staggering he completed vanished from the press,i can remember going through the music press hoping to reach maybe a small utternance or photograph of him but there was nothing in
my view that just added to his myth and his legendary status because i was taken in by him,i dont know why he isolated himself from view to his fan and im unsure why this occured but he made a massive impact and impression on me ive seen hundreds of bands but there was without doubt something going on with him even his haircut his clothes that were snapshots of guys i used to see in North Manchester and Salford even the way they walked with reckless abandonment but i noted that working class guys in especially Salford and they took pride in their appearance and to this day that influenced me even more than most,Mavers had the complete game of this and there was something magical to see it in full show he took his art form so so seriously and personally it really gripped me on every level imaginable.
The rocking in his seat is very telling. But always loved The La's. Legendary. At the time I preferred them over Stone Roses.
Thanks for the great video, this album taks me back to being in my late teens - great music. I realised I never fully understood why they didn't produce another studio album. But now I do, thank you!
Thanks for tuning in Paul!
Just caught Magazine and the La's for the first time on UA-cam. Both great - good music gets better with time.
Fantastic song all around. All the mojo. Sadly it was co-opted by Sixpence None The Richer during the oft tiresome and shitty trend of female singers that was polluting the airwaves at the time with mediocre material. Their superior version will stand the test of time though I am sure.
I always thought it was horsing through my veins… which always had me thinking he was singing about skag…
It's not the 'Lars' but a scouse pronunciation of lads i.e. without pronouncing the 'd' (hence the apostrophe for the missing 'd' (it's not a greengrocer's apostrophe).
Half of Liverpool was on heroin. Then came Mdma from Manchester. Beats don’t lie.
Love the whole album still and I’m 52
same but I'm 58
Was working for a record distributor when I got a promo copy of the CD. It didn't leave my player for months. In my mind it was skiffle / Merseybeat put through this incredible, raw, real voice (Mavers), and they were creating amazing hooks that were so sharp. It was miles away from what was popular here in Toronto, but those that heard it loved it. I remember them being interviewed on MuchMusic and Mavers telling fans NOT to buy the record because Lillywhite ruined it. I knew he was different right then. I still love that record and listen to it every so often.
My main regret about The La’s is that there doesn’t seem to be a studio version of I Am The Key.
@jasonlefler3456 the key 103 radio appearance seems to be the best version of 'i am the key' floating about...there are bootleg recordings of them performing it live in the day but the key 103 version is the clearest as it was radio broadcast quality.
@@lornapowell2362 Agreed, although the live version from the Town & Country in London circa 1989 takes the cakes.
And tears in the rain
I do remember hearing this track at the end of the 80's. Never caught the lyrics really. The tone of the track put me off. Lol
Run away to SEA. Back in the day it was still possible for scouse lads to join the mercant navy and see the world.
Much ado about very little. That said, There She Goes is excellent and sounds as if it's come from the 60s.
Listen to the demo on youtube: "there she goes demo 1987". It's so good. You can see why Mavers had so much trouble recording this song. Like trying to bottle lightning.
Is this Trash Taste’s little brother??? Same accent, same presenting style, similar editing style…
According to Wikipedia Mavers didn't try heroin until after he wrote "There She Goes"
A tad overrated Band,song,album & songwriter!!there i said it,someone needs to honest,not terrible,just not as great as the legend promotes,sorry😏
There she goes again reminds me of Badge by Cream; it a great jangling song that ends too soon, as did the band. Do a video on Big Country, their first album.
Loved that album, bought it on audio cassette, when it came out. All songs offer something special and it should always be listened to as one 35 minute piece of near perfection, imho.
The las couldve revolutionised british music in the 90s. Such a waste
Something very ethereal about the La's. Prophetic even? Looking Glass predicts the Smart Phone, The World Wide Web (until the 'web' is spun. Everybody must have fun) and Cast....
Ironically that is the most boring song on the album. Lol 🤷♀️
thou there was some suspension of it being a bout something habit form.i think it was adopted or adapted as a sweet pop song.ala sixpence non the richers sappy saccharin version.
There she goes
The girl with only one eye and no nose
Any mid-sized city that has a port will have a heroin problem. Was anyone in Liverpool in the 90s not on heroin?
Me?
PLEASE KEEP GOING BUD! THIS WAS EXCELLENTLY WRITTEN AND PUT TOGETHER
Thanks a ton mate - I appreciate the comment and your support! More to come.
Midlake had a similar perfectionist lead singer issue...
Can’t believe I never pieced it together because it seems so obvious. I feel like my whole life is a lie. It’s always about drugs. Never as innocent as it seems
Is it see or sea? (Doledrum)...
I don't believe Mavers will reveal his motivations or true feelings about the songs.
Brilliant content,,thank you very much!
Awesome! Whats the music at the end?
It's about LIVERPOOL. Home.
Funny how he sounds like Franki Valli on the record, but not live.
Nice little video. Liking your content.
There she goes was used a lot by advertisers and i think brittish indi films or series that has a lot to do with why its embedded in people's brains.
Saw the La’s, saw the quality content, subbed!
Thank you for the support and sub! Neutral Milk Hotel is a great suggestion. Stay tuned for more to come!
Dude your writing for this video is fantastic. Nice narration too. Great work. Can’t wait for more.
I can attest to trying to capture the magic of demos, even in my limited experience. It’s brutal and probably impossible. It’s sound great to everyone else but you know that sparkle is missing, the thing that makes the recording soar. Join that with a heroine addiction could make it a nightmare process.
Thank you for the view and comment, I appreciate it!
One time when some codone was pulsing through my brain the opening 12 string electric riff caused an involuntary tear to drip out of my eye
Horrid song. Absolutely irritating.
Great video. Thank you! What was the music you used at the end, with the strings? I think it was the same you used at the open? Love it. It’s that background music and how it sounded with your voice over, the atmosphere it created. Wonderful.
Thank you very much for your comment, I'm really glad you liked the way I put the doc together! All the music used in this video is non-licenced music I've found on various sites. At some point in the future I'll get round to including the music used in the Description of the video. Thanks again!
Always came on radio when I was rattling
Whether Mavers had dabbled with the gear when writing There She Goes, I don't know. He'd probably have had the opportunity, it was rife in Liverpool in the 80's. But I highly doubt he was a frequent user while The La's were still recording and gigging. The signs are pretty obvious, I saw them live a few times back then and they always showed up and played well. Which I think would've been unlikely for someone gripped by a smack habit.
Saw Mavers backstage at an Oasis gig in the mid 90's (friends were on their road crew) and that was a different story, he was gouching his tits off and I was such a big fan that it really upset me.
paul hemmings who was in the band when it was wrote says it's a load of bollocks and he doesn't know where that rumour came from
I could never be a fan because that apostrophe bugs the shit out of me.
smoking gear off tin foil......do the stone roses
I thought everyone knew this was about heroin use
Can you do 'The Strange Idols Pattern and Other Short Stories' by Felt? or Ignite the Seven Cannons, the album before it? Felt were a rather very under the radar, cult band from the 80s, (classically trained) guitarist Maurice Deebank has been named by quite a few later 90s and even 2000s shoegaze and other bands as influence on the guitar. And of course, Lawrence was/is quite a person
Thank you for the view and comment. That's a good idea - I actually watched Lawrence of Belgravia not that long ago. I have a few videos in the pipeline but I may return to this idea after that.
Top 5 albums, masterpiece
Movers was a smack head and unstable
We all love the story of a tortured genius songwriter who was done dirty by the music industry, and there are many real life examples of this. But if you read between the lines, this may also be a classic example of someone letting the perfect become the enemy of the good. Several well-known producers who have been very successful with other artists tried to work with The La's, but none of them were good enough for Lee Mavers. Maybe he was born in the wrong era: in 2024, you can buy software for your laptop, learn how to engineer, and make your own record at home. This wasn't an option in 1987.
Best album ever made. Fact
don't get too deep... great tune... 🎸🎶
It must have been not long after the release of the album that I heard it playing in a record store, in a bigger city, on a day trip with a friend. Bought it, still one of the best albums for me. Live they must have been phenomenal, Mavers voice was, even on a recording he apparently wasn't happy with, shockingly powerful, the only thing that seems to exist anymore in that moment. Thanks for this unexpected walk down memory lane some 30+ years later.
Thank you for the comment and for sharing this lovely memory
I thought he sang she pulls my chain
Thats because Oasis are plagiarists.
Lee must of drove the others insane, deffo ocd
The 80 s indi classic that was they say the Foundation stone of Brit pop when x members formed The Cast it was said when they reassured the LA s record for the charts that he was trying to catch the moment Liverpool skiffle turns into 60s beat pop/ mersey beat N the follow up hit got there I got the Dulux version of LP with all the out take versions of the LP