Sorry it seems I went a little overboard with my criticism towards the SPM and SS chapters. I didn't intend to have it feel like I was making fun of their fans, but I guess my often sarcastic humor didn't play right with everyone. If you love those games that is great! Im super nostalgic for SPM and adore so much about it, the level design just isnt one of those things sadly. I'll plan to be more restrained on negativity and my teasing in future videos.
Appreciate that you left this comment, no problem with going too hard on Sticker Star since everyone feels the same way, I wouldn't have gone as hard on SPM though. Especially Chapter 6 which IMO is actually kind of amazing. Chapter 6 is actually pretty awesome in my opinion, the over-the-top monotony at the beginning of the chapter is intentional: making the player think "they're not really going to make me do 100 battles in a row, right?" foreshadows that something's gonna happen to get you out of it, but the way you get out of having to do all those battles is so shockingly dark for a Mario game that it really stands out in my memory in a great way. The end of Chapter 6 and the beginning of Chapter 7 completely break the formulaic "get the pure heart -> put it in the pillar -> go to the next world" pattern that the player got used to which just makes it feel like the stakes are even higher. It communicates to the player that absolutely nothing is safe from the void, not even the core game loop you've gotten comfortable with. I think that's brilliant game design in its own way, even if the levels themselves seemed kind of basic.
@@vanillawizardeveryone doesn’t feel the same. Sure most people dont like sticker star but i still do and many others, sure it isnt the best but its still good.
@@Tulinx Sorry I didn't mean to imply there's no one out there who had a good time with SS, I was mostly just trying to say it's less controversial to go hard on it compared to SPM since SS is the definite least popular one. I could have phrased that part differently, maybe I could have said "hating sticker star isn't a hot take" instead. Even though I'm another SS hater, I do feel bad for people who grew up playing it and really liked it. It's gotta suck watching Paper Mario videos or talking to Paper Mario fans and being surrounded by people who are always saying that game you like is trash.
Now that TTYD got a gorgeous remake, I'd seriously love to see the original Paper Mario remade. It's such a cozy game and Toad Town is such a charming hub.
I personally feel if it does get remade, the artstyle should stay the same or at least similar to the original. I just feel the graphics are apart of the charm of the game
@@bensjammin9 I mean I'm happy with any new Paper Mario. It's just I adore the original PM and it feels kinda left out. It's the oldest Mario RPG left that hasn't gotten the remake treatment. Super Mario RPG got a remake, TTYD got one, M&L superstar saga got one. And there were so many quality of life improvements in the TYYD remake that I love. New music, simpler togles, backtracking cut down. Plus I kinda view Paper Mario 64 and TTYD kinda like Ocarina and Majora's Mask. You can't remake one and leave the other behind. They both go together.
@@Subremedyhe kinda said it perfectly tho, it’s not that the game is some atrocious piece of trash, it’s that sticker star was a wild negative departure (unlike Super, which was a wild but promising departure) from the previous three games that removed most of what people loved about paper Mario. it’s also the “catalyst” that brought about two more titles similar to it that og paper Mario fans do not enjoy
@@Subremedy Sticker star is the Nuts N Bolts of the Paper Mario series. Nuts N Bolts is not a bad game, it's just not a good Banjo Kazooie game. Same thing with Sticker Star; if an small dev team made that game, I would be genuinely impressed. But as as a paper mario game... yeah.
I actually learned why Bobby dies if he blows up. The game explains that there are two types of Bob-ombs there are common "enemy ones" whuch are factory made with the purpose of going boom and dying and special ones that are built to survive its own explosions but they are technically two different ways how they are made
I’ve heard a slight variation on this, and it’s a theory I like better. It suggests that there are natural bob-ombs and manufactured ones. The manufactured ones are only able to explode once, and die after doing so, while natural bob-ombs (who weren’t manufactured and instead exist like any other species) can freely explode without endangering themself. That would explain why Bobby dies, but the regular bob-ombs that power Big Bob in TTYD chapter 7 are just fine.
@@bird_obsession except the first paper mario debunks this cus their are black bombombs that don't die when they explode. Also was that from thane gaming, or some other youtuber/person just curious
@eduardoxenofonte4004 fun fact because the ttyd remake gave every area a unique battle theme chapter 7 has 3 unique area battle themes being the farh outpost, the moon and the x-naut base
I'll personally always have a special place in my heart for Castle Bleck! Super Paper Mario was the first Mario RPG I ever played, and probably one of the most captivating storylines ever for me, so when it came to the final Chapter of that game, it all hit me right in the feels! From each main character getting defeated one by one, to the final battle..., I'll always cherish the memories I made from it!
I'm sorry you didn't find the TOK boss fights fun. They were big highlight for me, and I would always go back to replay them in the simulator. IDK I just didn't mind TOK's battle system. SOLVE PUZZLE MAKE BRAIN HAPPY!
I love the resurgence of these Paper Mario ranking videos due to the remake! Some of my favorite chapters are Tubba Blubba, Lavalava Island, Crystal Palace, Glitz Pit, Twilight Town, Keelhaul Key, and Excess Express.
For those of us who grew up with the first two games, super paper mario (especially it's gameplay,) was a betrayal of what we the fanbase wanted. It's a fun game, but it's areas and layouts don't compare to the first two games at all
it's really good but then there's really shit moments in chapters 2-5 and 7 that really bring the game down. I think he underranked it but at the same time with how tedious the game can be sometimes I understand.
Ttyd Chapter 4 went from one of my least favorite to one of my favorites due to a freakin pipe added. 3 trips instead of 5. Chapter 5 went from middle to one of my favorites due to the spring added and chapter 7 the worst chapter in the original ttyd now is in the middle due to the warp pipe room added. Ch 4 5 and 7 moved up significantly in my ttyd ranking due to the improvements. If they would have added a pipe in far outpost that takes you directly to the warp room instead of leaving and walking to it chapter 7 might have been in my top 4 but alas they didn't still going from one of the worst to middle is a big improvement.
Super Paper Mario is my favorite game of all time, so I was kind of annoyed at how low the chapters got ranked and how he called the artwork ugly. I get that they might not be as exciting as the other chapters from a gameplay perspective, but I feel like he completely ignored the story elements of each chapter. Of course, these rankings are just his opinion, but I personally would have ranked the super Mario chapters a little higher.
P.S. A lot of people think I say this stuff about super paper Mario because I played it before the other paper Mario games but that’s actually not true. thousand year door was the first paper Mario game I played and I still liked super paper Mario More. (Thousand Year door is still very good though)
Some people value different things in the chapters, and it seemed like gameplay was a pretty important part to him (just look at how low SPM chapter 6 ranked which is basically just a fantastic story chapter with pretty dull gameplay). I do agree with him on the art style though, I do think Super can look good, but on average it's a pretty ugly game compared to how beautiful and charming most other Paper Mario games are (especially the two games coming before it)
Okay I gotta agree with JoPro here, I don't really like Super Paper Mario alot either, but we respect others opinions on it, why is almost everyone here getting upset and salty about his different opinions, the only good thing i'll give super is its story, but I did NOT enjoy its gameplay, and Dimentio isnt as good as a villain as Count Bleck, and Shadow Queen is my favorite Paper Mario character and boss, I'm happy at least someone else has TTYD Chapter 8 as the number 1 favorite, cuz it's been mine for years, and it's so much better in the remake, but seriously guys, we have different opinions, stop getting upset if someone dislikes Super
Chapter 2 of SPM was actually one of my favourites. I can understand and agree with some of your concerns, but I don't think its fair to judge it by how much of an RPG it is. SPM makes itself very clearly appear as a platformer, distinct from the previous games.
There’s actually discussions about why some Bob ombs are fine after exploding, and why others die. According to the lore of paper Mario, there’s two types of Bob ombs, ones born naturally, and others who are made in factories. Those who were born naturally have the ability to explode without harming themselves, as a defense mechanism… bowser tried replicating this and began mass producing them, but those made in a factory can’t compete with those found in nature, and when they explode, they literally die. Factory made Bob Ombs also lack self awareness except for a miraculous few. That makes Bobby more special as he was lucky enough to gain self awareness and the concept of morality. He wasn’t programmed to sacrifice himself, he chose to sacrifice himself out of free will. This explanation only applies to Paper Mario lore, and not main series lore. That also means Bombette and Bobbery are natural Bob ombs, not factory made like Bobby. Hence, why they don’t die after exploding.
The Backtracking never bothered me tbh, I might not be a hardcore gamer but a lot of folks talk about it being excruciatingly bad and I'm just like take a chillpill.
The fly buzzing around merlee is the joke actually cause you dont see it buzzing around her until the last question, which made the game trick you into paying attention to what they say even tho it didnt matter
21:11 Bowser jumps up to platform, lands on bones taking 2 damage, bones procced to edge of platform, Bowser jumps up hitting bones taking 2 more damage, gives a wtf pause, transforms into Luigi, jumps up again hitting bones also taking 2 damage, jumps again clips through enemy, completely misses and falls back down 😂😂
I honestly agree with at least 90% of this list. The only thing that really stood out to me was putting the Excess Express above Lava Lava Island. Personally I get so much more immersed exploring the jungle and battling through the Volcano than I do with the murder mystery train ride, but fair enough. Not that you need my 2 cents but I think this is a solid list.
I think for me backtracking in the Gamecube TTYD is unforgiveable because it's not just padding out the content, the whole game is going across the same screens as many times as possible. You're intended to fight the same encounters over and over to be the proper level and they do it like clockwork in every chapter. Meanwhile, I think the SPM backtracking is harmless because you get to just quickly run back to wherever you were with barely any resistance. 5-1 is pretty quick, 7-2 is just funny, and all the other instances are even more harmless than those. My favorite chapters are PM4, PM6, TTYD3, TTYD6, SPM2, SPM8, so I was pretty frustrated by the SPM takes and I got annoyed when you seemingly overvalued the path->village->dungeon format over some more creative chapters.
They've done some improvements in the remake of TTYD to reduce unnecessary backtracking. The ones I'm aware of are that they improved the teleport hub underground so that it covers more chapters (and takes less time to traverse), and they added a big shortcut to chapter 4 and a smaller one to chapter 5 to reduce the length of the back-and-forth sections in those chapters.
Exactly what I was thinking. This guy compared doing Twilight Trail 5 times MINIMUM to doing 2 or 3 (I forgot the exact number) extra rooms in the Underwhere. And then commented about how everyone excused this but not the """minor""" TTYD backtracking, which really made me mad, because calling out a specific group of people in any type of video (especially when you’re wrong) is just plain rude. Like, what did I do to this guy? I’m just trying to watch his video.
Backtracking is forgivable due to everything else ttyd gets right. It is even more forgivable In the remake due to the warp pipe room for chapter 7 and 3 trips instead of 5 through twilight trails. Also a spring added to chapter 5 beginning so now I can definitely forgive it.
Honestly After playing ttyd remake recently Holy frick is the level design terrible The entirety of petal meadows is a hallway you mindlessly walk through Almost the entire boggly woods is a hallway you mindlessly walk through Glitz pit is glitz pit The entire path from twighlight town to creepy steeple is a hallway you mindlessly walk through The entirety of keyhaul key apart from the platforming area is a hallway you mindlessly walk through You get my point Backtracking in ttyd is made especially horrible because of this
@@enderallygolemI recently finished the remake and once I thought about it, the linear level design is really boring. I prefer the chapters that avoid this problem like glitzville, glimtrain and shadow castle. I think I would like a PM64 remake more to see if it was as good as I remember it
Guy who just beat the TTYD remake here, and I agree. Granted my favorite game in the series is Origami King, I came to terms on how GOOD TTYD is. The final chapter I definitely feel is worth the #1 spot (sorry spoilers). I have never been so adrenaline rushed in an endgame since probably MOTHER 3.
My favs for the most part line up here (Twilight Town, Lady Bow's Mansion, The Excess Express, Shiver City, etc...), but I will always have a nostalgic soft spot for Flower Fields. As a little girl I just thought the flower characters (despite how demanding they were with these fetch quests) were so beautiful that I would just enjoy spending time in those little areas. Compared to the Toy Box which may be a technically better level design-wise, I couldn't get out of fast enough purely based on aesthetics haha Also it really speaks to Paper Mario's art teams that I genuinely love both Desert levels they've done (TTYD & Origami King), when normally desert levels often end up being my least favorites no matter the game genre.
The main issue is that your comments on the levels come off as extremely condescending, with a super unpleasant smugness in your voice that suggests the developers must have been really dumb. You can't seem to understand how anyone could create such bad levels. Your attitude is pretty awful. I'm halfway through your video and seriously wondering why you played any Paper Mario at all. You're constantly ranting about things you didn't like. This in itself isn't a problem, but the way you do it is really annoying. It seems like you were forced to play these games. As an example, you say about Chapter 7 from Super Paper Mario, "yeah, you know guys, Super Paper Mario things," as if everyone should know how terrible the gameplay is and that it's an absolute disgrace. I share your criticism, but it's about the way you express it. The whole video gives off a vibe of, "did you see what Theresa was wearing yesterday? I can't believe she thinks she can go to a bar in that dress. If you ask me, she'll be single forever."
I'm mostly trying to be sarcastic and not sincerely mean about the games. Maybe it goes too far sometimes, but I'll keep it in mind. Then again, much bigger youtubers like Chuggaconroy have been wayyyy meaner about some of these games.
@@JoProGamingi respect the list but the smugness kills it. Chugga got intense on his review but you can tell that hes at least passionate about whatever he’s feeling about
i honestly feel like the only reason sticker star and color splash (but esp color splash cuz sticker star was still not it) get so much hate is because people expect them to be similar games to 64, ttyd and spm when they’re really just their own thing, and honestly i think taken as their own different kind of game color splash is really great
@@Antimony96 I find the battle system in Origami King to be way more tedious and annoying than the one in Color Splash. At least Color Splash's battles are generally short and sweet!
39:40 I remember the first time i saw this scene, it was sunday night, after spending a weekend playing paper mario that we at the time RENTED, it was 8:30 at night and RIGHT after seeing that incredible reveal of the Dry Dry Ruins, my mom said it was time to drop off Paper Mario at Rogers' Video. As crushed as i was, I then decided that I HAD to get that game for my birthday!
Sorry but story is just as important as gameplay if it wasn’t for that level you wouldn’t truly know the impact that the black hole has upon worlds it legit destroy the entire world has had the power to completely turn the pure heart into stone. Only saying gameplay matters means nothing.
@@pryceginzo1802the problem is, if the gameplay isn't fun, most people don't want to invest themselves on the story. It's like a boring lesson, it may have a lot of value, but it's not fun so you don't want to care. Hope that makes sense. (This is also just my opinion btw, i respect yours but just wanted to say how i view it, and i think most casual players do.)
@@Cappyboom I respect your viewpoint it makes a lot of sense. I’m a pretty story driven guy so I tend to steer towards story more. I do enjoy how they are able to mix elements of a paper Mario game with the elements of a classic 2d Mario game!
@@pryceginzo1802 Yeah i like the gameplay of the game a lot, however the sammer guy part just wasn't my cup of tea. I feel like they could have done something more instead more instead of just fight, but i guess i'm just too good for that. (Sarcsadm)
I feel like some of your criticisms could've been a little more constructive/you could've been more conscious of your own biases for some of these rankings. Nothing wrong with having a negative opinion but you seem quick to make sweeping statements like "the gameplay is bad", "terrible level design" etc for some levels with no elaboration, but when it comes to something like TTYD Chapter 4 you mock complaints about backtracking and dismiss them as being "not a big deal". Even just elaborating more on what aspects of levels you dislike rather than a general "thing bad" statement every few seconds would go a long way to garner a warmer reception than from a seemingly arbitrary "these two chapters both do something tedious but this one is higher because i like it better". It seems like you're afraid to either commit to a completely subjective list of favourites, or a strictly objective critical ranking, and the lack of clarity there is what's leading some to take the negativity to heart. Otherwise a great video though!
I’ve always viewed chapter 3 of 64 as the peak of the series. Love the variety in locations from creepy woods to mansion to old west. I love the characters the villain, ugh it’s great!
I’m playing through paper Mario 64 right now for the first time since I was a child and im loving it so much. Just finished shy guys toybox a couple hours ago
I utilized Goombario a lot for battles, and once to great effect in Bowser's Castle. I didn't notice the torches on the wall, and then Goombario pointed them out, allowing me to solve the puzzle with ease. Thanks, Goombario. And a good multibonk, charged if necessary, means Goombario can never be a looser... Unless he can't bonk the enemy.
So, what are YOUR favorite chapters from the series? And how are you liking the remake so far? Let me know! Also, be sure to check out my recently released stop-motion Hooktail boss fight: ua-cam.com/video/IGscCD3aywA/v-deo.htmlsi=ESflBKHheABegX5Y And I'm giving away some Paper Mario crafts. Follow me on Twitter/X to have a chance at winning. Good luck!
My absolute fave is of glitz and glory and I’m working on getting the game I should hopefully have it soon also great video man I love three types of rankings
I've always liked glitzville, chapter 3. The setting, the story, the characters, the battle rank thing, it's so fun. Also controversially I like shy guys toy box. It has back tracking yes but I like the toy world and the characters, it's visually entertaining and very stimulating in a good way, so even the back tracking I didn't mind at all.
I’ve only played Color splash and origami king, currently playing 64, TTYD, and spm, not wasting my time with sticker star As for my favorites From color splash the pirate chapter From origami king the chapter with the Bob omb
I appreciate the work you did on the video but I can tell your script writing needs more practice, a lot of issues you have with chapters you dont like tend to be themes of the game as a whole, and you kinda have this video backwards where it is way more interesting to look deeply at why a chapter completely fails to deliver on what it sets out to do, whereas when a chapter is great its usually pretty obvious. like i dont have many issues with your personal ranking but man, you spend like 15 minutes on your 3 favorite chapters and to put it bluntly you did not tell me anything I didn't already know. i think this would've worked better if you set your criteria for what makes a chapter good in your eyes, because without it it feels like you just have a bias towards a couple games and gloss over their weaker aspects. while you just keep hammering home how bad sticker star super paper mario and color splash is, when you even admitted you didnt replay 2 of them!!! I hope you keep at it with these videos because I think you do have potential but maybe focus in more on the why the games feel so good/bad to play rather than a general summary. Goodluck out there!
I do agree with your top 5-ish. I do indeed not rank TTYD Chapter 8 that high, but def in the top 10, but chapter 3 & 7 from 64 are so god damn good. N64 chapter 7 is my favorite chapter in the entire series, with TTYD Ch 3 & 4 coming very close
So I was watching you play SPM and struggling in the clips you showed. Do you not know about the Bowser/Carrie combo. The clip at 20:59-21:20 had me cringing at the screen. You know you can use Bowser and the partner Carrie and breathe flames mid-air, right? Or was this just a self-imposed restriction to keep the game from being too easy.
Quick list of favorites for me: - 64 Chapters 3 and 8 - TTYD Chapters 3 and 6 - SPM Chapter 3 - CS Chapters 3 and 4 - TOK Chapters 3 and 6 ...Dang, they really love hitting it out of the park with their Chapter 3's. Unless your name is Sticker Star.
i know this list is ENTIRELY opinion-based, but i really feel like I need to get this out there. hating on super paper mario and being a whiny ttyd fan boy is what ultimately is stopping me from subscribing. i love paper mario, it is one of my favorite rpg series and games in general. it really rubs me the wrong way, constantly beating on a dead horse while undermining the story development of the game and its chapters is an inexcusable thing as a paper mario fan. the first two games are beyond charming and have phenomenal gameplay and character, i cannot emphasize enough how captivating they are. but listening to you rank every spm level low hurt my heart because instead of enjoying a new game with a new atmosphere and world, you complain about everything we have already heard. even big youtubers like Chuggaaconroy enjoy spm, and i get personal preference but you are so stuck in the past that you can’t even enjoy something creative and original. i hope you know your “sarcastic” tone came off condescending and rude, and hopefully we can hear some actual constructive criticism soon.
I still like SPM, it's very nostalgic to me and was one of my favorite games growing up, but I do think it has some legitimate gameplay problems that many agree with. I'm doing a video ranking all 7 games in a few days, and I think in that I've hopefully done a better job constructively criticizing it without offending folks. Sorry if this particular video went too far, I forget how many fans that game has.
my favorite chapter ever is paper mario 64 chapter 5 my god i love it that was my entire paper mario routine puzzles mysterious plants and jungle are fantastic! and the volcano too it was my life 🙂
I have very similar rankings In my top ten/top 15. I also really like the mystery chapters as well as the haunted ghost chapters. Seems we have similar tastes. I was surprised by your number 1, but after just playing the remake I can totally see why. It’s definitely an epic chapter and I love it
Two of my favorite pm64 chapters are your least favorite chapters in that game. I've realized that backtracking isn't as big of a problem for me as it for most people. I like them partly because of how unique they are.
CH4 and CH6? Yeah I mean, I still love them a lot! I think 64 has the most consistently good chapters in the series and that even CH6 is lovely and filled with charm.
@@JoProGaming I hadn't played chapter 6 in about 13 years and I finally replayed it a few hours ago. I tried making my own list just now and neither chapter 6 nor chapter 4 ended up in my top four chapters of the game. I guess I can't exactly say they are some of my favorites because most of them would be at that point.
@@Real_Bossclips That’s not a lack of research. Those games aren’t worth playing more of because there isn’t a single aspect of them that’s better than 64, TTYD or even Super.
I still like SPM CH7. But CH7 does it several times (in 7-2 and 7-3) and the level design of 7-3 is horrendous. Also the backtracking in Twilight adds to the atmosphere and isolation but in SPM it doesn't really add anything.
I do not like chapter 4 in TTYD. Because once Mario becomes a shadow, he loses goombella which means I can't get hints of what to do do, and I can't go back to rogue port so I have to take the time to figure out things and go back an forth trying to figure where to go and what to do, and I'm trying to beat it without a walkthrough, took me 20 minutes looking for the super bom for Vivien because I kept trying to press A to look in bushes, which wasn't working, not knowing I had to hit them with a hammer. Seems simple enough but I just don't like how hard it is for, I remember needing a walk through the first time I played it on gamecube. The original twilight town music was also droning and gave me a headache, looking at purple shadow Mario so long hurts the eyes and it's just an unpleasant experience. I like Doopliss and the boos at creepy steeple and the whole concept story wise is good but gosh it's just an exhausting chapter.
would say the orignal ttyd chapter 4 yes 5 trips backtracking is tedious but the switch remake has you only do it 3 times now. Went from one of the worst chapters in the original to one of my favorites in the remake
@@CameronRoberts-jh9mr Im on the excess express now and it's fun sure but my gosh most of the level is just walking back and forth on that dang train. Chapter 5 has a lot of backtracking as well...I hate all the back tracking lol. It's not as bad as the original for sure but if there was one critique for the game that be it.
@@jburnaquatic Yes I agree if there one thing I had to critique it would be that but I can forgive it due to everything else it gets right. Yeah I wish they would have just added a pipe like they did in chapter 4 for chapter 5 instead of a spring but combine that spring with yoshi it’s way faster than the original. But yes if I had to say one negative thing about the game it would be that. Also chapter 6 is on a train and trains are straight lines. There’s not much that can be done there unless you make it on a ship so that’s more of a problem caused by the setting and not the level design. Anyway I can handle the backtracking now in the remake where as in the original i had trouble pushing through sometimes but yes one thing ttyd struggles with. Good we can be civil about this.
As Color Splash's strongest soldier, while I'm disappointed (though nevertheless unsurprised) you didn't find the game as enjoyable as the older titles, I'm at least satisfied that you didn't put it by itself in the "mid tier" segment.
Wow looks like you really don’t like super paper Mario. I enjoyed most levels in that game. The 100 person fight is kind of annoying though (although u don’t fight all of them the first time). You just hate platformers I guess?
i enjoyed both aswell but the battle system wasn't the best, i think if they kept the og battle system they would of both been so much better even if everything else stayed the same
Yeah I just hate bland characters no story no reward for battling and atrocious game design like not telling players where the things you need are at and the atrocity that is the forest world. Also bosses that are a win if you just use a specific sticker good game design babyyyy.
Very surprised that at least one or two of chap 3,4,6 in PPTTYD weren’t better than chap 3 or 7 of PM. I’m always wanting more set criteria for these evaluations and rankings…
I agree with your placement of Chapter 8 of TTYD with the caveat that I *only* think this for the remake. You spoke highly of the music but I actually find it pretty grating in the original, with the tone ranging from uncharacteristically goofy (the Palace of Shadow themes) to grating and unpleasant (the Riddle Tower theme), nothing feels as climactic or exciting as the buildup of the story would have it because the music simply won't let it. The remake fixes all of this pretty immaculately and makes it genuinely what I'd consider a perfect finale.
4:28 How many of y’all consider the escape of heII to be the other 2 levels of chapter 6? If you do then it’s technically a full chapter, but if not then ok. The void was one of the most jaw dropping moments for me and the music gives me goosebumps.
My small complaint with the newer paper mario games is that all characters are overly self-aware that they’re made of paper. Idk why, but it feels like it ruins the immersion for me. Story-wise, I think TOK is a step in the right direction, but i would like to see more classic RPG mechanics return
I’ll leave my list of favorite chapters from each Paper Mario (besides Origami King as I haven’t played it yet): Paper Mario 64: Chapter 3 Paper Mario TTYD: The Great Boggly Tree and Of Glitz and Glory, both honestly are really interchangeable for me Super Paper Mario: Bitlands with an honorable mention to Mount Lineland Paper Mario Sticker Star: World 3 (just gonna be honest even though I know people will think I’m trolling but the atmosphere was solid, I do love World 4 though) Paper Mario Color Splash: Orange Region All these games have a special place in my heart, so I honestly don’t care if the latter games suck according to the community. I had a blast growing up with all of them!
Sorry it seems I went a little overboard with my criticism towards the SPM and SS chapters. I didn't intend to have it feel like I was making fun of their fans, but I guess my often sarcastic humor didn't play right with everyone.
If you love those games that is great! Im super nostalgic for SPM and adore so much about it, the level design just isnt one of those things sadly. I'll plan to be more restrained on negativity and my teasing in future videos.
Appreciate that you left this comment, no problem with going too hard on Sticker Star since everyone feels the same way, I wouldn't have gone as hard on SPM though. Especially Chapter 6 which IMO is actually kind of amazing.
Chapter 6 is actually pretty awesome in my opinion, the over-the-top monotony at the beginning of the chapter is intentional: making the player think "they're not really going to make me do 100 battles in a row, right?" foreshadows that something's gonna happen to get you out of it, but the way you get out of having to do all those battles is so shockingly dark for a Mario game that it really stands out in my memory in a great way. The end of Chapter 6 and the beginning of Chapter 7 completely break the formulaic "get the pure heart -> put it in the pillar -> go to the next world" pattern that the player got used to which just makes it feel like the stakes are even higher. It communicates to the player that absolutely nothing is safe from the void, not even the core game loop you've gotten comfortable with. I think that's brilliant game design in its own way, even if the levels themselves seemed kind of basic.
@@vanillawizardeveryone doesn’t feel the same. Sure most people dont like sticker star but i still do and many others, sure it isnt the best but its still good.
@@Tulinx Sorry I didn't mean to imply there's no one out there who had a good time with SS, I was mostly just trying to say it's less controversial to go hard on it compared to SPM since SS is the definite least popular one. I could have phrased that part differently, maybe I could have said "hating sticker star isn't a hot take" instead.
Even though I'm another SS hater, I do feel bad for people who grew up playing it and really liked it. It's gotta suck watching Paper Mario videos or talking to Paper Mario fans and being surrounded by people who are always saying that game you like is trash.
It’s completely fair to hate on the gameplay aspect of SPM. It was by far that game’s weakest element and a lot of the levels suck.
@@MySnugglePuppyI like the gameplay, I think it would have done much better if it mixed the platforming with RPG elements
Now that TTYD got a gorgeous remake, I'd seriously love to see the original Paper Mario remade. It's such a cozy game and Toad Town is such a charming hub.
I personally feel if it does get remade, the artstyle should stay the same or at least similar to the original. I just feel the graphics are apart of the charm of the game
Really hoping either 64 or Super get remade next. Super would make more sense as 64 is already playable on Switch through NSO
@@bensjammin9 I mean I'm happy with any new Paper Mario. It's just I adore the original PM and it feels kinda left out. It's the oldest Mario RPG left that hasn't gotten the remake treatment. Super Mario RPG got a remake, TTYD got one, M&L superstar saga got one. And there were so many quality of life improvements in the TYYD remake that I love. New music, simpler togles, backtracking cut down. Plus I kinda view Paper Mario 64 and TTYD kinda like Ocarina and Majora's Mask. You can't remake one and leave the other behind. They both go together.
One of my favorite RPGs of all time
Guys, I think this guy may not like sticker star
It's not that bad of a game...
@@SubremedyThank you!
@@Subremedyhe kinda said it perfectly tho, it’s not that the game is some atrocious piece of trash, it’s that sticker star was a wild negative departure (unlike Super, which was a wild but promising departure) from the previous three games that removed most of what people loved about paper Mario. it’s also the “catalyst” that brought about two more titles similar to it that og paper Mario fans do not enjoy
@@Subremedy Sticker star is the Nuts N Bolts of the Paper Mario series. Nuts N Bolts is not a bad game, it's just not a good Banjo Kazooie game. Same thing with Sticker Star; if an small dev team made that game, I would be genuinely impressed. But as as a paper mario game... yeah.
@@GravityBouncer Super absolutely was a wild negative departure
To me the Holy Trinity is:
- Paper Mario's Chapter 7
- TTYD's Chapter 3
- Super Paper Mario's Chapter 8
Oh Man SPM's Ch.8 Is Kino Final Castle/ Dungeon stuff especially from the Bosses the Twists and everything.
@@mitchellalexander9162 totally agree with you
It might be my favorite final level & climax in any game alongside Final Fantasy VI's
I’d add in TTYD chapter 6 and make it a holy quartet
ttyd chapter 3 is amazing but chapter 6 is better
@@bird_obsession I second this.
I actually learned why Bobby dies if he blows up. The game explains that there are two types of Bob-ombs there are common "enemy ones" whuch are factory made with the purpose of going boom and dying and special ones that are built to survive its own explosions but they are technically two different ways how they are made
that's just a fan theory but cool if true.
What makes you think that all Bob-ombs were made by someone tho? There is a family of Bob-ombs in TTYD with one even being a kid
I’ve heard a slight variation on this, and it’s a theory I like better.
It suggests that there are natural bob-ombs and manufactured ones. The manufactured ones are only able to explode once, and die after doing so, while natural bob-ombs (who weren’t manufactured and instead exist like any other species) can freely explode without endangering themself. That would explain why Bobby dies, but the regular bob-ombs that power Big Bob in TTYD chapter 7 are just fine.
@@bird_obsession except the first paper mario debunks this cus their are black bombombs that don't die when they explode. Also was that from thane gaming, or some other youtuber/person just curious
@@nascour5991how does that debunk this? Those are just natural bob ombs that happen to look like the manufactured ones.
I know you said your not including the remake, but chapter 4 is helped by a pipe leading back to twilight town, making the chapter infinitely better
yeah, without a significant portion of the backtracking, chapters 4 and 7 shoot up quite a bit in my opinion.
@eduardoxenofonte4004 fun fact because the ttyd remake gave every area a unique battle theme chapter 7 has 3 unique area battle themes being the farh outpost, the moon and the x-naut base
@@bulbaa2241 The moon and x naut base have the same battle theme
I'll personally always have a special place in my heart for Castle Bleck! Super Paper Mario was the first Mario RPG I ever played, and probably one of the most captivating storylines ever for me, so when it came to the final Chapter of that game, it all hit me right in the feels! From each main character getting defeated one by one, to the final battle..., I'll always cherish the memories I made from it!
Definitely that game's best chapter.
Easily my favorite pm chapter ever imo
it is the best
Mario hesitated to leave Luigi to fight for himself in the fight with dimentio. That is some subtle character development
Yo is that Albert Boris?
Spm got shafted, bitlands being at 19 is crazy, I'd put it top 5 honestly
yes
I disagree it was carried by 3-4
@lilsp2647 yeah that's fair, 3-4 is probably my favorite level in the game
I'm sorry you didn't find the TOK boss fights fun. They were big highlight for me, and I would always go back to replay them in the simulator. IDK I just didn't mind TOK's battle system. SOLVE PUZZLE MAKE BRAIN HAPPY!
Definitely agreed
I love the resurgence of these Paper Mario ranking videos due to the remake! Some of my favorite chapters are Tubba Blubba, Lavalava Island, Crystal Palace, Glitz Pit, Twilight Town, Keelhaul Key, and Excess Express.
nah SPM got totally sidelined for no reason. that game is Peak
Thank you!
Mf is still butt hurt that it's a platformer
For those of us who grew up with the first two games, super paper mario (especially it's gameplay,) was a betrayal of what we the fanbase wanted. It's a fun game, but it's areas and layouts don't compare to the first two games at all
@@ScrimmyBunglets I played thousand year door before SPM and I still like that game more (thousand year door is still good though)
it's really good but then there's really shit moments in chapters 2-5 and 7 that really bring the game down. I think he underranked it but at the same time with how tedious the game can be sometimes I understand.
Boggly woods has basically been fixed in terms of pikmi- i mean punie AI. And Flurry turned into a tanky member!
Wasn't flurrie always a tank
Congrats, we got the Prince Mush Boss Fight in the remake!
Ttyd Chapter 4 went from one of my least favorite to one of my favorites due to a freakin pipe added. 3 trips instead of 5. Chapter 5 went from middle to one of my favorites due to the spring added and chapter 7 the worst chapter in the original ttyd now is in the middle due to the warp pipe room added. Ch 4 5 and 7 moved up significantly in my ttyd ranking due to the improvements. If they would have added a pipe in far outpost that takes you directly to the warp room instead of leaving and walking to it chapter 7 might have been in my top 4 but alas they didn't still going from one of the worst to middle is a big improvement.
Did Super Paper Mario shit in your cereal wtf
why dont u say that with sticker star too
Even though SPM is a good game the actual gameplay of the chapters just aren't the greatest lmao
@@maximany9506 probably just because it's sticker star honestly
Super Paper Mario is my favorite game of all time, so I was kind of annoyed at how low the chapters got ranked and how he called the artwork ugly. I get that they might not be as exciting as the other chapters from a gameplay perspective, but I feel like he completely ignored the story elements of each chapter. Of course, these rankings are just his opinion, but I personally would have ranked the super Mario chapters a little higher.
P.S. A lot of people think I say this stuff about super paper Mario because I played it before the other paper Mario games but that’s actually not true. thousand year door was the first paper Mario game I played and I still liked super paper Mario More. (Thousand Year door is still very good though)
Some people value different things in the chapters, and it seemed like gameplay was a pretty important part to him (just look at how low SPM chapter 6 ranked which is basically just a fantastic story chapter with pretty dull gameplay). I do agree with him on the art style though, I do think Super can look good, but on average it's a pretty ugly game compared to how beautiful and charming most other Paper Mario games are (especially the two games coming before it)
completely agree with you. super paper mario is my childhood probably top 3 games for me and to see him disrespect the chapters is insane.
That’s kind of the fundamental problem with SPM. The story is good, everything else isn’t.
Okay I gotta agree with JoPro here, I don't really like Super Paper Mario alot either, but we respect others opinions on it, why is almost everyone here getting upset and salty about his different opinions, the only good thing i'll give super is its story, but I did NOT enjoy its gameplay, and Dimentio isnt as good as a villain as Count Bleck, and Shadow Queen is my favorite Paper Mario character and boss, I'm happy at least someone else has TTYD Chapter 8 as the number 1 favorite, cuz it's been mine for years, and it's so much better in the remake, but seriously guys, we have different opinions, stop getting upset if someone dislikes Super
Chapter 2 of SPM was actually one of my favourites. I can understand and agree with some of your concerns, but I don't think its fair to judge it by how much of an RPG it is. SPM makes itself very clearly appear as a platformer, distinct from the previous games.
Same
There’s actually discussions about why some Bob ombs are fine after exploding, and why others die. According to the lore of paper Mario, there’s two types of Bob ombs, ones born naturally, and others who are made in factories. Those who were born naturally have the ability to explode without harming themselves, as a defense mechanism… bowser tried replicating this and began mass producing them, but those made in a factory can’t compete with those found in nature, and when they explode, they literally die. Factory made Bob Ombs also lack self awareness except for a miraculous few. That makes Bobby more special as he was lucky enough to gain self awareness and the concept of morality. He wasn’t programmed to sacrifice himself, he chose to sacrifice himself out of free will.
This explanation only applies to Paper Mario lore, and not main series lore. That also means Bombette and Bobbery are natural Bob ombs, not factory made like Bobby. Hence, why they don’t die after exploding.
The Backtracking never bothered me tbh, I might not be a hardcore gamer but a lot of folks talk about it being excruciatingly bad and I'm just like take a chillpill.
I don't think those people play JRPGs I'm not gonna lie
The fly buzzing around merlee is the joke actually cause you dont see it buzzing around her until the last question, which made the game trick you into paying attention to what they say even tho it didnt matter
ain't no way he put chapter 7 in ttyd over almost the entirety of spm, its your list I get. it but damn the spm hate is unreal lmaoo
Agreed
I love X-Naut Fortress but nawh the super hate is cranked up to 11 in this video
The gameplay in super is just pretty dull
@@t00nbinkit’s funny that it has the best story but it’s not even a real RPG
@@Rexblazer yeah the story is absolutely fantastic
21:11 Bowser jumps up to platform, lands on bones taking 2 damage, bones procced to edge of platform, Bowser jumps up hitting bones taking 2 more damage, gives a wtf pause, transforms into Luigi, jumps up again hitting bones also taking 2 damage, jumps again clips through enemy, completely misses and falls back down 😂😂
I honestly agree with at least 90% of this list. The only thing that really stood out to me was putting the Excess Express above Lava Lava Island. Personally I get so much more immersed exploring the jungle and battling through the Volcano than I do with the murder mystery train ride, but fair enough.
Not that you need my 2 cents but I think this is a solid list.
“Have fun running in One Direction”
Baby you light up my world like nobody else-
Sammer's Kingdom is one of my favorite parts of SPM
Valid
The tension build up is so nice
If we ignore the whole story of chapter 6.5-7, sammers kingdom is my favorite 🤭
the fact that it is slow and boring helps with the story elements the point was for mimi to slow down the heroes as long as possible
The music for the Sammers Kingdom is one of my favorites.
I think for me backtracking in the Gamecube TTYD is unforgiveable because it's not just padding out the content, the whole game is going across the same screens as many times as possible. You're intended to fight the same encounters over and over to be the proper level and they do it like clockwork in every chapter.
Meanwhile, I think the SPM backtracking is harmless because you get to just quickly run back to wherever you were with barely any resistance. 5-1 is pretty quick, 7-2 is just funny, and all the other instances are even more harmless than those.
My favorite chapters are PM4, PM6, TTYD3, TTYD6, SPM2, SPM8, so I was pretty frustrated by the SPM takes and I got annoyed when you seemingly overvalued the path->village->dungeon format over some more creative chapters.
They've done some improvements in the remake of TTYD to reduce unnecessary backtracking. The ones I'm aware of are that they improved the teleport hub underground so that it covers more chapters (and takes less time to traverse), and they added a big shortcut to chapter 4 and a smaller one to chapter 5 to reduce the length of the back-and-forth sections in those chapters.
Exactly what I was thinking. This guy compared doing Twilight Trail 5 times MINIMUM to doing 2 or 3 (I forgot the exact number) extra rooms in the Underwhere. And then commented about how everyone excused this but not the """minor""" TTYD backtracking, which really made me mad, because calling out a specific group of people in any type of video (especially when you’re wrong) is just plain rude. Like, what did I do to this guy? I’m just trying to watch his video.
Backtracking is forgivable due to everything else ttyd gets right. It is even more forgivable In the remake due to the warp pipe room for chapter 7 and 3 trips instead of 5 through twilight trails. Also a spring added to chapter 5 beginning so now I can definitely forgive it.
Honestly
After playing ttyd remake recently
Holy frick is the level design terrible
The entirety of petal meadows is a hallway you mindlessly walk through
Almost the entire boggly woods is a hallway you mindlessly walk through
Glitz pit is glitz pit
The entire path from twighlight town to creepy steeple is a hallway you mindlessly walk through
The entirety of keyhaul key apart from the platforming area is a hallway you mindlessly walk through
You get my point
Backtracking in ttyd is made especially horrible because of this
@@enderallygolemI recently finished the remake and once I thought about it, the linear level design is really boring. I prefer the chapters that avoid this problem like glitzville, glimtrain and shadow castle. I think I would like a PM64 remake more to see if it was as good as I remember it
Guy who just beat the TTYD remake here, and I agree. Granted my favorite game in the series is Origami King, I came to terms on how GOOD TTYD is. The final chapter I definitely feel is worth the #1 spot (sorry spoilers). I have never been so adrenaline rushed in an endgame since probably MOTHER 3.
Idk how anyone can review the glitz pit and not make a Rawk Hawk joke
Spoilers for remake:
Got good news about prince mush
Yeah
@@whackareal*whack
@@whackarealOh my god is that THE Whacka!?
My favs for the most part line up here (Twilight Town, Lady Bow's Mansion, The Excess Express, Shiver City, etc...), but I will always have a nostalgic soft spot for Flower Fields. As a little girl I just thought the flower characters (despite how demanding they were with these fetch quests) were so beautiful that I would just enjoy spending time in those little areas. Compared to the Toy Box which may be a technically better level design-wise, I couldn't get out of fast enough purely based on aesthetics haha
Also it really speaks to Paper Mario's art teams that I genuinely love both Desert levels they've done (TTYD & Origami King), when normally desert levels often end up being my least favorites no matter the game genre.
The main issue is that your comments on the levels come off as extremely condescending, with a super unpleasant smugness in your voice that suggests the developers must have been really dumb. You can't seem to understand how anyone could create such bad levels.
Your attitude is pretty awful. I'm halfway through your video and seriously wondering why you played any Paper Mario at all. You're constantly ranting about things you didn't like. This in itself isn't a problem, but the way you do it is really annoying. It seems like you were forced to play these games.
As an example, you say about Chapter 7 from Super Paper Mario, "yeah, you know guys, Super Paper Mario things," as if everyone should know how terrible the gameplay is and that it's an absolute disgrace. I share your criticism, but it's about the way you express it. The whole video gives off a vibe of, "did you see what Theresa was wearing yesterday? I can't believe she thinks she can go to a bar in that dress. If you ask me, she'll be single forever."
I'm mostly trying to be sarcastic and not sincerely mean about the games. Maybe it goes too far sometimes, but I'll keep it in mind.
Then again, much bigger youtubers like Chuggaconroy have been wayyyy meaner about some of these games.
@@JoProGamingi respect the list but the smugness kills it. Chugga got intense on his review but you can tell that hes at least passionate about whatever he’s feeling about
@@JoProGaming chuggaconroy is not normal about videogames
I feel like more credit needs to be given to some of the weaker games in the franchise. Not every level is the chore he’s making them out to be imo
i honestly feel like the only reason sticker star and color splash (but esp color splash cuz sticker star was still not it) get so much hate is because people expect them to be similar games to 64, ttyd and spm when they’re really just their own thing, and honestly i think taken as their own different kind of game color splash is really great
Color Splash has some genuinely solid parts even if it suffers from core flaws like the battle system. Sticker Star is actually bad.
It’s less of that and more just that the game isn’t good on its own, too many clashing design choices that make it a boring experience
@@K_Lateral idk i personally disagree but hey, to each their own
@@Antimony96 I find the battle system in Origami King to be way more tedious and annoying than the one in Color Splash. At least Color Splash's battles are generally short and sweet!
@@dolism Aren't picking cards up in battle too long in Color Splash?
39:40 I remember the first time i saw this scene, it was sunday night, after spending a weekend playing paper mario that we at the time RENTED, it was 8:30 at night and RIGHT after seeing that incredible reveal of the Dry Dry Ruins, my mom said it was time to drop off Paper Mario at Rogers' Video. As crushed as i was, I then decided that I HAD to get that game for my birthday!
Putting sammers kingdom low because you see it at such a shallow surface level is so dumb lol
I see it for its great story and for its awful gameplay. Gameplay matters.
Sorry but story is just as important as gameplay if it wasn’t for that level you wouldn’t truly know the impact that the black hole has upon worlds it legit destroy the entire world has had the power to completely turn the pure heart into stone. Only saying gameplay matters means nothing.
@@pryceginzo1802the problem is, if the gameplay isn't fun, most people don't want to invest themselves on the story. It's like a boring lesson, it may have a lot of value, but it's not fun so you don't want to care. Hope that makes sense. (This is also just my opinion btw, i respect yours but just wanted to say how i view it, and i think most casual players do.)
@@Cappyboom I respect your viewpoint it makes a lot of sense. I’m a pretty story driven guy so I tend to steer towards story more. I do enjoy how they are able to mix elements of a paper Mario game with the elements of a classic 2d Mario game!
@@pryceginzo1802 Yeah i like the gameplay of the game a lot, however the sammer guy part just wasn't my cup of tea. I feel like they could have done something more instead more instead of just fight, but i guess i'm just too good for that. (Sarcsadm)
Such solid takes. Watched full video, didnt bat an eye
I feel like some of your criticisms could've been a little more constructive/you could've been more conscious of your own biases for some of these rankings. Nothing wrong with having a negative opinion but you seem quick to make sweeping statements like "the gameplay is bad", "terrible level design" etc for some levels with no elaboration, but when it comes to something like TTYD Chapter 4 you mock complaints about backtracking and dismiss them as being "not a big deal". Even just elaborating more on what aspects of levels you dislike rather than a general "thing bad" statement every few seconds would go a long way to garner a warmer reception than from a seemingly arbitrary "these two chapters both do something tedious but this one is higher because i like it better". It seems like you're afraid to either commit to a completely subjective list of favourites, or a strictly objective critical ranking, and the lack of clarity there is what's leading some to take the negativity to heart. Otherwise a great video though!
I actually watched this whole video
This was really enterteining
I’ve always viewed chapter 3 of 64 as the peak of the series. Love the variety in locations from creepy woods to mansion to old west. I love the characters the villain, ugh it’s great!
I’m playing through paper Mario 64 right now for the first time since I was a child and im loving it so much. Just finished shy guys toybox a couple hours ago
Nice! It's such a classic. I love It's charm so much.
I utilized Goombario a lot for battles, and once to great effect in Bowser's Castle. I didn't notice the torches on the wall, and then Goombario pointed them out, allowing me to solve the puzzle with ease. Thanks, Goombario. And a good multibonk, charged if necessary, means Goombario can never be a looser... Unless he can't bonk the enemy.
So, what are YOUR favorite chapters from the series? And how are you liking the remake so far? Let me know!
Also, be sure to check out my recently released stop-motion Hooktail boss fight: ua-cam.com/video/IGscCD3aywA/v-deo.htmlsi=ESflBKHheABegX5Y
And I'm giving away some Paper Mario crafts. Follow me on Twitter/X to have a chance at winning. Good luck!
My absolute fave is of glitz and glory and I’m working on getting the game I should hopefully have it soon also great video man I love three types of rankings
I've always liked glitzville, chapter 3. The setting, the story, the characters, the battle rank thing, it's so fun. Also controversially I like shy guys toy box. It has back tracking yes but I like the toy world and the characters, it's visually entertaining and very stimulating in a good way, so even the back tracking I didn't mind at all.
"I can't believe I Can play Mario in Space before Mario Galaxy !"
Super Mario Land 2: 😮
@@dylandelahaie7800 😬
SS chapter 3 is 31% of the games levels not over 40%
I’ve only played Color splash and origami king, currently playing 64, TTYD, and spm, not wasting my time with sticker star
As for my favorites
From color splash the pirate chapter
From origami king the chapter with the Bob omb
Amazing ranking man. I watched it the whole way through. Love you’re #2 and #3 picks. Those are phenomenal and glad to see them that high up!
Unpopular opinion but flower fields is on of my favorite chapters of all time
Same here
well you got your wish for a prince mush fight
and WOW
uhh...... be careful what you wish for?
he lives up to his title as champion that's for sure
Ooo boy he does...there was a reason why Rawk Hawk had to go out his way to feed Prince Mush a poisoned cake
I appreciate the work you did on the video but I can tell your script writing needs more practice,
a lot of issues you have with chapters you dont like tend to be themes of the game as a whole, and you kinda have this video backwards where it is way more interesting to look deeply at why a chapter completely fails to deliver on what it sets out to do, whereas when a chapter is great its usually pretty obvious.
like i dont have many issues with your personal ranking but man, you spend like 15 minutes on your 3 favorite chapters and to put it bluntly you did not tell me anything I didn't already know.
i think this would've worked better if you set your criteria for what makes a chapter good in your eyes, because without it it feels like you just have a bias towards a couple games and gloss over their weaker aspects. while you just keep hammering home how bad sticker star super paper mario and color splash is, when you even admitted you didnt replay 2 of them!!!
I hope you keep at it with these videos because I think you do have potential but maybe focus in more on the why the games feel so good/bad to play rather than a general summary.
Goodluck out there!
The yellow streamer gives me so much nostalgia.
Fun fact about your video:
Number 8 and number 3 share the same chapter number from their game. 😊
I do agree with your top 5-ish. I do indeed not rank TTYD Chapter 8 that high, but def in the top 10, but chapter 3 & 7 from 64 are so god damn good. N64 chapter 7 is my favorite chapter in the entire series, with TTYD Ch 3 & 4 coming very close
So I was watching you play SPM and struggling in the clips you showed. Do you not know about the Bowser/Carrie combo. The clip at 20:59-21:20 had me cringing at the screen. You know you can use Bowser and the partner Carrie and breathe flames mid-air, right? Or was this just a self-imposed restriction to keep the game from being too easy.
bro sounds like a 🤓☝ through the entire video 💀
Quick list of favorites for me:
- 64 Chapters 3 and 8
- TTYD Chapters 3 and 6
- SPM Chapter 3
- CS Chapters 3 and 4
- TOK Chapters 3 and 6
...Dang, they really love hitting it out of the park with their Chapter 3's. Unless your name is Sticker Star.
Yeah I noticed chapter 3s are consistently the best, except fot Sticker Star it is easily the very worst.
unpopular opinion: paper mario tok is too underrated, it has the best exploration of all the chapters and i loved bossfights
Palace of shadow is ALBOSOLUTLEY amazing, this list was great, biased or not...
Absolutely* haha
Goombario’s role in Bowser’s castle is to help you get through the hall where you have to follow the path of the lit torches.
i know this list is ENTIRELY opinion-based, but i really feel like I need to get this out there. hating on super paper mario and being a whiny ttyd fan boy is what ultimately is stopping me from subscribing. i love paper mario, it is one of my favorite rpg series and games in general. it really rubs me the wrong way, constantly beating on a dead horse while undermining the story development of the game and its chapters is an inexcusable thing as a paper mario fan. the first two games are beyond charming and have phenomenal gameplay and character, i cannot emphasize enough how captivating they are. but listening to you rank every spm level low hurt my heart because instead of enjoying a new game with a new atmosphere and world, you complain about everything we have already heard. even big youtubers like Chuggaaconroy enjoy spm, and i get personal preference but you are so stuck in the past that you can’t even enjoy something creative and original. i hope you know your “sarcastic” tone came off condescending and rude, and hopefully we can hear some actual constructive criticism soon.
I still like SPM, it's very nostalgic to me and was one of my favorite games growing up, but I do think it has some legitimate gameplay problems that many agree with.
I'm doing a video ranking all 7 games in a few days, and I think in that I've hopefully done a better job constructively criticizing it without offending folks. Sorry if this particular video went too far, I forget how many fans that game has.
Also, SPM is "my past". I grew up playing it as a kid, so I'm not really stuck in the past, but I get your point.
Super Paper Mario is 17 years old. Not exactly new. And the level design stinks in most chapters.
my favorite chapter ever is paper mario 64 chapter 5 my god i love it that was my entire paper mario routine puzzles mysterious plants and jungle are fantastic! and the volcano too it was my life 🙂
As a kid it may have been my favorite as well. The ticking time bomb that is the volcano is such a tense exciting set piece to explore!
@@JoProGaming yah it's every child favorite and even everyone
As someone who hasn't played Origami King, I have no idea why all of the toads are faceless at 36:36 and it scares me 😆
I have very similar rankings In my top ten/top 15. I also really like the mystery chapters as well as the haunted ghost chapters. Seems we have similar tastes. I was surprised by your number 1, but after just playing the remake I can totally see why. It’s definitely an epic chapter and I love it
I definitely think you should have replayed Sticker Star and Color Splash if you're going to rank their chapters.
We may have lost our Mayro Month but at least there's Paper Mario Month this time!
Great video btw
Agree 100% with your ranking of the Origami King chapters.
Chapter 3 of Paper Mario 64 is by far my favorite, every single section absolutely terrified me as a kid
Two of my favorite pm64 chapters are your least favorite chapters in that game. I've realized that backtracking isn't as big of a problem for me as it for most people. I like them partly because of how unique they are.
CH4 and CH6?
Yeah I mean, I still love them a lot! I think 64 has the most consistently good chapters in the series and that even CH6 is lovely and filled with charm.
@@JoProGaming I hadn't played chapter 6 in about 13 years and I finally replayed it a few hours ago. I tried making my own list just now and neither chapter 6 nor chapter 4 ended up in my top four chapters of the game. I guess I can't exactly say they are some of my favorites because most of them would be at that point.
"I did not replay Sticker Star or Color Splash"
Goodbye.
I've played both 3 times each. That's enough for me.
Least youre honest about the lack of research.
@@Real_Bossclips That’s not a lack of research. Those games aren’t worth playing more of because there isn’t a single aspect of them that’s better than 64, TTYD or even Super.
AND me and you have chapter 7 as our favorite paper mario n64 chapter, we could probably talk for hours about the OG, lol
Nah nah anh how can bro hate OK bosses the battle system is so cool
Its always weird to me, hearing mario be called the great gonzales, in my countries translation he is bomba luigi, so that confuses me every time
SPM Chapter 7 is probably in my top five Paper Mario chapters for how unique it is lol
my favorite chapter is the invincible tubba blubba ! everhything for me is perfect :)
I fell asleep for a little bit and missed the shy guy's toy box ranking, so I just thought that it was going to be number one! Who would do that?
While I love the Aesthetics of Twilight Town, I'm very surprised that chapter wasn't the lower of TTYD
I wonder where Bug Fables' chapters would rank on this list
You criticize SPM Chapter 7 because of backtracking but you put Twilight Town in your top 5? L take
I still like SPM CH7. But CH7 does it several times (in 7-2 and 7-3) and the level design of 7-3 is horrendous.
Also the backtracking in Twilight adds to the atmosphere and isolation but in SPM it doesn't really add anything.
I like how two favorite OG paper mario chapters are two of my least favorite. My personal favorite from the OG is flower fields and shy guys toy box
I do not like chapter 4 in TTYD. Because once Mario becomes a shadow, he loses goombella which means I can't get hints of what to do do, and I can't go back to rogue port so I have to take the time to figure out things and go back an forth trying to figure where to go and what to do, and I'm trying to beat it without a walkthrough, took me 20 minutes looking for the super bom for Vivien because I kept trying to press A to look in bushes, which wasn't working, not knowing I had to hit them with a hammer. Seems simple enough but I just don't like how hard it is for, I remember needing a walk through the first time I played it on gamecube. The original twilight town music was also droning and gave me a headache, looking at purple shadow Mario so long hurts the eyes and it's just an unpleasant experience. I like Doopliss and the boos at creepy steeple and the whole concept story wise is good but gosh it's just an exhausting chapter.
would say the orignal ttyd chapter 4 yes 5 trips backtracking is tedious but the switch remake has you only do it 3 times now. Went from one of the worst chapters in the original to one of my favorites in the remake
@@CameronRoberts-jh9mr Im on the excess express now and it's fun sure but my gosh most of the level is just walking back and forth on that dang train. Chapter 5 has a lot of backtracking as well...I hate all the back tracking lol. It's not as bad as the original for sure but if there was one critique for the game that be it.
@@jburnaquatic Yes I agree if there one thing I had to critique it would be that but I can forgive it due to everything else it gets right. Yeah I wish they would have just added a pipe like they did in chapter 4 for chapter 5 instead of a spring but combine that spring with yoshi it’s way faster than the original. But yes if I had to say one negative thing about the game it would be that. Also chapter 6 is on a train and trains are straight lines. There’s not much that can be done there unless you make it on a ship so that’s more of a problem caused by the setting and not the level design. Anyway I can handle the backtracking now in the remake where as in the original i had trouble pushing through sometimes but yes one thing ttyd struggles with. Good we can be civil about this.
As Color Splash's strongest soldier, while I'm disappointed (though nevertheless unsurprised) you didn't find the game as enjoyable as the older titles, I'm at least satisfied that you didn't put it by itself in the "mid tier" segment.
Wow looks like you really don’t like super paper Mario. I enjoyed most levels in that game. The 100 person fight is kind of annoying though (although u don’t fight all of them the first time). You just hate platformers I guess?
Super paper Mario was the first Paper Mario I played and I rather enjoy it. I have to say the Thousand Year Door is my new favorite.
dang color splash got shafted so hard
ttyd is my favorite not only PAPER mario game, but mario game in general. and i love the new pipe room in the new one
bro, I don't know why the suns music hits so hard
"Please can we get the Prince Mush boss fight in the remake"
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Origami King and Color Splash aren’t as bad as most people think tbh
Am I the only one that their favourite paper mario is Color Splash? I love every part of that game
Yes, you are.
As a paper Mario sticker star and color splash defender. This list is not for me.
i enjoyed both aswell but the battle system wasn't the best, i think if they kept the og battle system they would of both been so much better even if everything else stayed the same
damn that sucks. hope they find a cure
Yeah I just hate bland characters no story no reward for battling and atrocious game design like not telling players where the things you need are at and the atrocity that is the forest world. Also bosses that are a win if you just use a specific sticker good game design babyyyy.
I love Color Splash, I mean sticker star kinda sucks, but I LOVE Color Splash. I grew up with that game!
It's ok to like them
My number one pick is absolutely TTYD chapter 6, followed by TTYD 3 and SPM 8.
For me Thousand Year Door Chapters 3 and 6 are by far the best
Bro put Dry Dry Desert over Scorching Sandpaper Desert 💀
Still a good list, though
Very surprised that at least one or two of chap 3,4,6 in PPTTYD weren’t better than chap 3 or 7 of PM. I’m always wanting more set criteria for these evaluations and rankings…
Where is this Starborn Valley you speak of. I must go there for… reasons.
When walking in a straight line for 30 minutes is better than an entire game you know its a bad game 😂
sticker star color splash and origami king are great games fight me 😡
I agree with your placement of Chapter 8 of TTYD with the caveat that I *only* think this for the remake. You spoke highly of the music but I actually find it pretty grating in the original, with the tone ranging from uncharacteristically goofy (the Palace of Shadow themes) to grating and unpleasant (the Riddle Tower theme), nothing feels as climactic or exciting as the buildup of the story would have it because the music simply won't let it.
The remake fixes all of this pretty immaculately and makes it genuinely what I'd consider a perfect finale.
4:28 How many of y’all consider the escape of heII to be the other 2 levels of chapter 6? If you do then it’s technically a full chapter, but if not then ok. The void was one of the most jaw dropping moments for me and the music gives me goosebumps.
My small complaint with the newer paper mario games is that all characters are overly self-aware that they’re made of paper. Idk why, but it feels like it ruins the immersion for me.
Story-wise, I think TOK is a step in the right direction, but i would like to see more classic RPG mechanics return
Well, guess I got here early.
Also still waiting on the 40 hottest paper mario characters,
Tubbs blubba would be my #1 pick 😍.
I did my 20, isn't that enough?!? 😅
Maybeee a sequel someday.
Uhm...where is CS Chapter 4?
It was at 28th!
I’ll leave my list of favorite chapters from each Paper Mario (besides Origami King as I haven’t played it yet):
Paper Mario 64: Chapter 3
Paper Mario TTYD: The Great Boggly Tree and Of Glitz and Glory, both honestly are really interchangeable for me
Super Paper Mario: Bitlands with an honorable mention to Mount Lineland
Paper Mario Sticker Star: World 3 (just gonna be honest even though I know people will think I’m trolling but the atmosphere was solid, I do love World 4 though)
Paper Mario Color Splash: Orange Region
All these games have a special place in my heart, so I honestly don’t care if the latter games suck according to the community. I had a blast growing up with all of them!