MIKE MENTZER: HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU SHOULD TRAIN AGAIN?
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2024
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In this video Mike Mentzer reveals an ideal training frequency and explains why training every day is always a mistake. He further explains why some trainees require even more days off in between workouts.
Special thanks to John Balik and Wayne Gallasch for allowing me to use their copyrighted photographs for this video.
To see more of Mike Mentzer check out these videos by Wayne Gallasch of GMV:
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I am impressed at Mike Mentzer's ability to explain concepts and new information like you're having a regular conversation with him. It's so simple yet fascinating.
You do realise this is AI generated and he is dead 23 years
@terrymedlicott3580 No, it is not. This channel is owned by Mike's personal best friend John Little and he has been uploading his works for quite some time now.
@@terrymedlicott3580The audio is from a phone interview that Mike did with Bill Phillips, who was then the publisher of muscle media 2000, a bodybuilding magazine. While it’s true that Mike has been gone for over two decades, he did leave behind a considerable amount of audio recordings; some recorded over the phone, others in a studio. None of this is AI generated.
Its not ai, he sounds bit like the ai voice people use for you tube shorts 😂
I'm so thankful I found this channel two years ago. I'm on vacation right now going way off my diet & not training. If not for Mentzer & John Little I'd be self-defeating. This video specifically is helping me mentally get past those resentful sentiments.
I took 12 weeks off this Spring. Are the same macro-spread but at maintenance. Wasn’t exactly sedentary as I have a physical job, but nothing akin to weight training. When I got back to the gym I had lost no strength or body weight, and within 2 weeks had returned to a similar aesthetic state as before. Rest is wonderful and the importance of training all the time is exaggerated.
@@c.j.howard2857 Wow 12 weeks! 🤯
GOOD STUFF !!😮 It’s so true , so many people are working so hard only to lack progress and even get smaller.
Overtraining is a real thing !
I don't know about the overtraining but I know for sure about injuries, crippling injuries 😢 .
Recovery happens in order of first CNS, then DOMS, and lastly swelling. This process can take anywhere from 2-7+ days depending on genetics and the intensity and/or volume of the workout done. This is shown in studies now and Mike knew this decades before.
I'm grateful to have found Mike's wisdom through your channel John. It has helped me understand the true nature of exercise science specifically bodybuilding. Thank you!
You’re welcome. All the best!
Would full body low to moderate volume (1-2 hard sets) be the way to train say twice (every 3-4 days) a week for most naturals?
@@steelphantom9105 Yes that would be a great starting point. The frequency and volume will depend on the individual. Best to keep a training log to track and regulate the program as you go on.
This was a fantastic post because this is exactly what I feel. I feel worked like a mofo right after, the fatigue and soreness sets in for like a day or two after and then on the third day or so I feel like Superman.
100% agree with Mike. Trained Saturday and still feel exhausted.
2:12 Training every 3-4 days. So what Mike is saying for this example is Monday chest & back, Thursday arms & shoulders, Sunday legs. 3 days rest cycle -- or 9 days total before you return to chest & back. The 4 day rest cycle would be 12 days before repeating chest & back. I'm doing a minimum of 15 days before I repeat chest & back workout. It's just that life gets busy. I have more to do than spend time in the gym. But it's working for me. John, I was convinced back in 2007 when I first discovered your books. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you !
You’re very welcome! Thanks for your post.
Can you be more specific about your results from training this way?
I train Legs pull push each 14-16 days, it is similar train Tom platz Legs, but whitout anabolics
@@steelphantom9105 When I do Mentzer/John Little high intensity type training, my muscles grow. I remember at one point, I lifted 825 pounds for 1 second -- many years ago. That was really cool! But there have been years when I did not train or go to the gym at all (raising kids, marriage, you know). During those periods, my muscles grew weaker. But every time I return to CORRECT high intensity training, my muscles grow back quickly -- like 12 months. I've never reached my genetic potential yet, because of my own failings. Tbh, eating is the other half of the bodybuilding equation. I'm just recently getting free from my sugar addiction (worse than drugs in some ways). In a nutshell, I'm starting healthy keto & intermittent fasting (a good resource for me is DrEricBerg's youtube channel. He also agrees with High Intensity Training.) I hope this time to come closer to my potential. Hope this is helpful.
@@leavingbabylon3008 Are you doing the exact program as far as frequency and volume?
I'm natural and train twice a week or once in 5 to 6 working days.. works for me ..
occasionally take longer breaks and find I'm stronger and lifting heavier more easily
Different strokes for different folks.
just gotta find what works for you.
I am training on his method & gaining muscles greatly! I was training like arnold first but I didnt gained anything bu now Im satisfied with my growth
So true especially when you're 67-year-old body builder you need time to rest. The only thing you're doing if you keep on doing days in a row is just go through the motion and have sore joints and get weaker and lose muscle. That's great advice.
What’s your training program, are you doing exactly what Mike suggested?
God bless you, John. I hope you are doing well. I have completed my 1 year experiment following Mikes axioms of truth and I am going to release the results very, very soon.
I've made the best progress by training only twice a week, about 45 mins per session. It might seem nothing to those used to volume training, but it can be very effective when done intensely. And always enough time to recover and grow until the next session.
Full Body or a Split routine?
COYS 👍🏼
you also can do high volume training sessions but the frequency has to be adequate to your recovery, HIT is just more efficient way but both systems give same results if done correctly
@@steelphantom9105 After some experimenting I found out that this works best FOR ME:
Day 1: Back + Biceps (week 1)
Day 2: Chest + Triceps
Day 3: Legs + Fore-arms (week 2)
Day 4: Shoulders + Traps
Which comes down to every muscle twice a month, but of course there is a lot of overlapping.
I did a high intensity workout for biceps and it's been 3 days and I still have pain in my biceps. Just shows that the muscle is not fully recovered even after 3 whole days, If U workout hard enough.
Before if it was like my usual bicep workout the pain would only last about a day or two utmost
High volume full body workouts every other day or 60-72 hours. Listen to your body. Some days where I sleep well, eat well, and have less life stress, I can go the next day. Listen to your body!
You're training for different goals. High volume full body workouts every other day is not optimized for maximizing muscle growth in a non-enhanced body.
Thank you!
For years I've only trained 3 times a week,1 hour at a time,very high intensity, Monday chest shoulders and triceps,weds back biceps and traps, Friday legs,rest Tuesday and Thursday and Saturday and Sunday, you'll grow like a weed so long as you're eating well and sleeping well, you'll grow even more if you're enhanced,natty or not this is how everyone should train
One day I will post these types of training videos for UA-cam…subscribe & progress everyone ❤❤❤
I simply do a full body consolidation WO that only takes 15 minutes twice a week. This seems to be the sweet spot of frequency for me.
when i first started training like 40 years ago , it was 4 days a week up to 2 hours a session GROSSLY overtrained , now its once a week for 20 minutes and im looking mighty fine at 66
what the **** are you doing in 20 minutes 😳
@@MrProzacmilkshake one set to failure on everything .. 4 sec up pause 4 seconds down..leg ext, leg biceps, one legged calf raises .. lat pulldown, lat row, chest press , pec deck , side laterals , dumbell presses , rope triceps , biceps dumbells , thats it
I’m 55 i train half boxing program and half weights on a Sunday and wednesday and only boxing on a Friday each session is about 40mins. The weights part is probably only 15 minutes per workout so 30 minutes a week and i am getting bigger and stronger.
I am one of those guys who take longer to recover. Mike sad it was common for individuals taller than 6 feet. I am above feet 6 tall. I haven't reduced the number of exercises but increased the number of days of rest. I still grow stronger.
His advice is nonsense and we know better now.
I am 6'3 and train every day. Your body adapts and recovers faster.
talking bs u should resttttt@@doctorcatnip2551
Mike Metzer says to start with 4 days of rest in Heavy Duty, add 1 day every 3 weeks and continue until you reach 7 days.
Relax 7 days of rest a week? I been there for long
The first tried and true and still applies to Scientific Approach to training.
Hello John,
I need your help with this ( and anyone else reading this you are most welcome )
I read mike's book high intensity training and he mentioned that as we progress by reps and or weight ( let's assume i went past 10 or more reps using a certain weight ) we should increase our weight ( intensity ) by 10%, but how do you calculate that ?
I did try but i don't think i did get it right
I get what mike mean to say " pick a weight which allows you to go back to the rep range of 6 to 10" and that's pretty easy doing it with your own head just by visualizing and estimating which weight to pick ( and by my experience in person a 5 to 2.5kg is enough ) but i am looking for a precise calculation, and that's because im building an app where we can keep track of workout and progress.
It means sense for a natural bodybuilder or weight trainee can't do workout following day. Body needs recovery for growth & repair of muscles. When a bodybuilder abled to do workout 6 days a week & growing you'll know they're on roids
Not true i work out 4-5 days a week for average of 2-3 hours seperate body part each day.
I listen to my body when im tried i take a day off every 2 months i take a week off.
My body looks insane
Its all about what works for you
Stop listening to other people
No protein shakes 95% vegetarian diet lots of natural vitamin pills water lots of sleep gospel music or listen to sermons being preached in the GYM
no masturbation or sex till marriage
Where do you get these videos
Ah it makes sense now, he says overlapping is over training! Best bodybuilding philosophy ever! My only question is how long can you go without working out until you start to lose your gains / muscle mass?
Does this still apply to absolute beginners? I believe he said it’s not as important
I thought working out 5 days a week was hard.
Just working out 3 days feels ever more challenging.
Is this conversation before or after he recommended The Ideal Workout of Heavy Duty 2?
Chest/Back, Legs (Leg Press/ Leg Extension & Calfs), Shoulders and Arms, Legs (Squats/ Leg Press & Calfs) with 3 days in between workouts.
This was recorded in 1995; Heavy Duty II came out in 1996.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE Thanks.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGEJohn, did Mike come out with another program after heavy duty 2?
@@dextermorgan7764 Not really; maybe the modified consolidation program (1998), but the principles and the suggested workouts remained pretty much the same.
I wait until the DOMS effect is completely gone. Sometimes it takes 3 days sometimes it takes 4 days. If it take less than 24 hours to subside then you really didn't get a proper workout.
Would that also apply to people who are overweight and going to do their first session at the gym? If they are using weights (machines or free) they should not go down the next day but wait at least 48 hours? someone please reply.
You'll find the information Mike share in this video to be helpful: ua-cam.com/video/SjzJ_rZzZ4A/v-deo.html (starting at 4:55). The workouts, it should be pointed out, are performed for the specific purpose of stimulating muscle growth. The non training or rest days are when the body recovers and adapts (grows) from the workout. Performing regimented "cardio" on your off days will compete for your recovery resources and compromise your progress. If weight loss is your primary goal, then follow Mike's advice in the video I have linked above.
I found that I can train same muscle group once per week but to get stronger is once every other week - sad reality of being natural 😂
I also do the same lifts once every 14 days and I am getting stronger. I might have to go as far as 21 days later. However I still train once a week.
What to do on a day off?
This dudes a clown i dont take days off
Mike spoke about that ,look up "mike mentzer days off"
@@Andrew-iq5udNo hes a legend and a genius .
Is stupid or smart train cardio in between hipertrophy workout?
i am not an expert but i will give my opinion.If you are looking for hypertrophy then your main goal is to build muscle and not burning fat.If you have cardio in between hypertropy workouts then you would not be able to perform your later hypertropy workout with efficiency due to fatigue, hence compromising on muscle building .So if you want to build muscle and loose fat as well then try doing cardio on the day you dont do hypertropy workout(recommneded) or do your cardio at the end of your hypertropy session.
I don’t think he meant in the middle of the actual workout.
@@bbharat307 sorry if i was not clear i meant for example monday i do hipertrophy, tuesday i do boxing training, would that compromise my muscle growth?
It's okay to do light cardio at a conversational pace because it will burn fat instead of sugar and won't work your muscles as hard. If you do high intense cardio then you're training your muscles too much when they're trying to recover and grow
Itll eat into your recovery and thus your gains in terms of mass
some olympic lifters rest 10 days!!
Im wondering how mikes concepts apply to mma and not weight training.