Cadillac ATS Coupé 2.0t AWD FULL REVIEW test driven 2016 - Autogefühl
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- Опубліковано 29 тра 2015
- Thomas Majchrzak of Autogefühl reviews the Cadillac ATS Coupé (2.0 Turbo with AWD) which almost no one is possessing in Germany. And our American viewers get an insight of the car from the German perspective. We are looking forward to your comments.
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I just got a 4 door ATS AWD 2.0T and I am loving it so far. It drives like a dream and the interior is beautiful and plenty comfortable. IMO it is the best looking car in its segment. Unique and undeniably American. Very happy with my purchase.
Thanks for the feedback and enjoy it
I just purchased a 2016 ATS sedan, and the center console is rock solid, zero movement. You must have gotten a car built on a Friday, lol.
Thomas: thanks for another masterful review of US cars without the bias pro and con of American and European car magazines - whom I trust as far as I can toss a Hummer or S-class. Your reviews are very fair, detailed, pragmatic, and believable. Their length and your clear English speaking are appreciated - most German car reviews we have translated with crazy comments like "the goose left the barn" or "black is away by the corn". We avoid that with your reviews. You are clear, honest, precise, and with high video quality and the right dose of humor. You are now my "go to" guy for objective reviews of our American cars; which we hope are getting better. Johann de Nysschen should subscribe to your Caddy reviews. Brilliant sir!
Larry Hatch Larry, those are really incredibly nice words to me. Thank you very much!
I just bought this exact car. I mostly got it because of the exterior and at least the coupe version of this car is quite rare (Canada). Definitely not as luxurious on the interior compared to a Mercedes C class, but I really dislike the new design Mercedes has gone for making everything looking like the CLA. BMW is so common in my area that I didn't go for it. The Audi I test drove felt completely lifeless and boring. The Cadillac may not be the best in many areas, but it is unique, offers a sense of charm when driving and at least in my opinion, the best looking.
Bravo for being different! And I would agree with you. I think it is much better-looking than any of those.
Thank you contemplating buying one. How do u find the cue entertainment center? I've heard the buttons don't work great?
@@taylorringuette3327 mine work fine
Just bought a used '16 Premium 2.0T with a 6-spd MT. Drives great, handles great, gets great MPG, and is comfortable for my 5'9" old-man's body. Love this darn thing.
Love my 17’ ATS coupe. Best car I’ve ever owned!
You can move your finger along the volume "button" to control the volume like you do on your smartphone.
great looking vehicle.....you don't buy a coupe to worry about the rear seating room lol
I really liked your honest & in depth review. Big Like!
+cccccccccccccccc5858 thanks !!
I love watching ur review especially when you give us ur perspective of an American car, cause a lot of reviews ignore the little things that you pay attention for which together make or break a car ... I just wished that you had the higher trim level and it would be great if you can review the CTS V-sport. thanks
Mina Botrous Great to hear that, thanks! I ll definitely try that as soon as it gets out!
I know this is an old video now but I just bought a 2018 a TS coupe 3.6 premium performance. I absolutely love it and realize that as a coupe it does have its limitations. For instance, I cannot sit in the backseat and I’m only 5 foot eight or so. But this is for me and I wanted to coop I don’t have children and I’m probably never gonna throw anybody back there, except may be a nephew. Mine, as the premium performance has every bell and whistle the puddle lamps from mirrors. The illuminated door handles the driver assist package. It just has everything. And styling wise, I think it’s fresh as when it was first introduced in 2012, and it certainly holds up five years later from my model year to today. As for turning Heads?/.. well you have to be driving something so bizarre here in America to get anybody to turn their head over a car anymore so that’s a lost cause but I don’t care. This car is about my personal comfort how it makes me feel and how it responds to my operation.
Great review
Excellently made video. Good English. Thank you for posting this.
gdwfs thanks !!
Gorgeous coupe - can't wait to buy one!
Oh wow, I wrote this six years ago and I just bought the car!
Cadillac is the rarest car brand in Europe. Would love to own a awd 2.0 with a MT, but I never think I’ll be able to find one.
Just bought a Cadillac ats love it crystal white ..it looks different at night shine like a diamond
What I got a heads up display! Gotta go find that! You dont buy this car to put gramma in the back seat. The dash controls you touch above the silver bars once you figure that out they are very easy. I love the way you discribe the out side lines to the door handles and the light,daaaark shadow lines , just checked that out and they look much better at night.
I thought Cadillac got out of Europe but it's nice to see it back. Quality has gotten better but still not as good as the competitors. For example that arm rest was loose and making noise, not a thing you would expect after spending a nice sum of money. But looks awesome outside, different in a good way for sure!
Kobbetop Totally agree to you!
nice to see a Cadillac in a review!!!
Interesting review against the German Brands
Saeed Anwar appreciated Saeed!
Great review keep up the great work
thanks pal, feel free to help us with comments and thumbs!
Autogefühl will do did you do a video on the cadillac escala concept?
Dont have any invitation or smth going on there, Cadillac is not that active in Europe, hardly can get cars
We do have a Cadillac XT5 though: ua-cam.com/video/KmIZ2Q6H0go/v-deo.html
Autogefühl! Have no idea what that means but sounds very German. Very good interior review, get to see the details. Driving test around some car park doesn't cover a lot, though.
ycnexu Autogefühl means car feeling :) That aint a car park btw. But nvm :) Thanks!
Love your review. It was nice to see a European perspective of this vehicle.
Chris Haycox thanks, appreciated! Greetings to the US, i guess :)
Pretty close. I'm in Ontario, Canada. Cadillac is trying hard here and it's nice to see their efforts being noticed on their competitors home turf!
1.86 Meters is 6.1" Feet for all us American viewers.
+Panthers1521 Thanks!!
Love your car reviews! Good job! Very professional and great info!
Joe B Love to hear that!
Btw: Excellent review!
freeman Geiger thanks!!
God this really is the most German car review ever, and I don't mean that as an insult it's just funny. The blazer lol
I just bought this car, trying to learn more about it. Great review. thank you! Lol @ 20:36 this is quite fun = emotionless face haha
thanks, feel free to recommend :)
Bought a 2016 Coupe AWD BASE model. All the mechanical features i was looking for and none of the frill i don’t need. looks nice too. went with 2.0t. 50/50 weight balance. handles incredibly well. fun and spirited. adding more power is a down-pipe and an ecu tune away. would buy 2.0t over the 3.6 every time.
$22k
22k miles
factory warranty until 2022
moonstone metallic
leather-ish seats lol
Nice 👍🏼
sounds like the deal of the century
really enjoyed the video. was wondering if you can do a review of the new chrysler 300?
+marksparks420 thanks! unfortunately we cannot get Chrysler cars in Germany anymore
It performed better than german rivals on figure 8 test lateral Gs I read, The ATS alpha platform is excellent
Thank you ;) post one last question TT roadster more ...I really listen to you your review help me to buy ;)
abu yosi haha =) Its really strange that the old videos dont come up with the comments on my community page :/
Cadillacs do stand out in the US with the exterior design. The V series is actually a twin turbo 3.6 litre V6. There will be a VPlus with a 7.0 litre V8 following.
While I'm not much for Cadillac's exterior styling It's nice to se that cadillac is now at least in the game. The ATS is built in my home town and I have friends that build them. They are quite proud of this car. The ATS and CTS are big steps in the right direction. In the driving dynamics there is a lot to like about this car relative to the F30 3/4-series and the Audi and Mercedes. However, what let's it down is the interior. The quality of the design, the materials, and the fit and finish are just not up to European or Japanese class.
This is not yet a 3-series killer but it has potential.
herrdoktorknowitall Thanks for the feedback! Nice to hear you have Cadillac building friends :)
You made a mistake when using the volume control, instead of pushing or holding the up/down arrow, you are supposed to glide your finger between the two arrows. It works must faster this way. Also the sliver parts in the control panel are meant to be a guide for your finder, so you don't need to take you eyes off the road when using them. Other than that, excellent review!
Thx 4 the info!
Gotta find one with manual transmission in Europe. Hopefully one day. Love this thing and I know it comes with manual.
That's my daily driver in Canada! I have 6 speed manual rear wheel drive with a sunroof. (same colour by the way).
It's a mystery why manufacturers all seem to be in love with the no nob dash- and as your Cadillac ATS Coupe review shows- it can be confusing to adjust controls-- the BMW Idrive is another example of poor design... there is a safety feature also for having a dedicated knob for some basic functions like audio controls.
I was the manager of Motorsport Engineering in Pompano Beach Fl. I really enjoyed the Euro spec cars we recieved. Have you tried the ATS-V yet?
thanks! here it is: ua-cam.com/video/SkQiJ8sB0rs/v-deo.html
Awesome voice.
Thanks 🙏
Thanks for the review ! GM with this vehicle needs to do a better job with the MMI system Cue is lack luster in use .
The over all design is good , its common car on the road here in US , but lots of competition for the money.
Fuel consumption is to high and needs to improve, i believe in the future they will address this with use of the upcoming hybrid system
from the the New 2016 Volt powertrain , which will be used in several model lines in the future, with use of drivetrain and smaller battery.
Thanks
Joe
TechExplorer thanks Joe for the US insight as always!
And that instrument cluster! Gm 2004 is calling you!
Harry C :
Nice car, nice review as always, so whats you're favorite car Thomas?
Nineq 96 thanks m8! Good question, at the moment, I like classic GTs and compact SUVs the most. Really like the Volvo XC60 in the compact SUV segment and the Mercedes SL for the GTs :)
***** oommgg you actually like cars close like i do but i dont like classics only "futuristic" (if you mean like the old ones) but there is only one thing on this planet that i would use before car and thats Can am spyder rts best vehicle ever :)
Nineq 96 Oh sorry what I meant with classic was not vintage cars but classic in its layout. So I was actually referring to the latest edition of the Mercedes SL :)
***** yes thats briliant piece of machinery
Nineq 96 Seen our SL review?
maybe the best car brought to europe...i really like this awsome car, I would allways choose this car in detriment of bmw
Damned with faint praise. :( I love Cadillacs!!!
Good review and nice background music - as always at Autogefühl. That car has caught my attention since first reviews made by US journalists appeared on the web. But I've never thought that I would see it on german licence plates. From how long is this car offered in Germany? ATS Coupe is an interesting, eye-catching car and it's good that an european customer have gotten finaly a wider range of real coupes to choose from. Too bad that the ATS Coupe is in Europe a sole representative in GM's 2+2 model range (or am I wrong?). Why Opel doesn't make now middle class coupes such as the GTC Concept from 2007? Seriously a market for that type of cars doesn't exist here anymore?
Jerzy Gołębiewski I think no one else would have a chance against the German middle class coupes. Thanks for the approval! The ATS is on the market not for long... maybe a year or smth?
Thanks for the response and for the significant information about ATS's presence on the market. I'm curious for how many customers will ATS be enough convincing.
It's hard to argue - the german middle class is unbeatable in many areas. But for me it would be still great to see a new front wheel driven classic coupe built on a casual platform taken from a not-too-expensive sedan. Hope to see more Cadillac reviews from you, Thomas.
Jerzy Gołębiewski Thanks! We ll try to do more Cadillac later this year
Actually the ATS-V makes 450hp and has a 3.6l V6 twin turbo but there making the CTS-V which has the 6.2l supercharged V8 making 640hp(same engine from the Z06)
I think it looks fantastic. And at USD $5,000-$15,000 less than BMW 3 and 4 series, Audi A4, and Mercedes C-Class, it's a good deal. They just need to improve the quality of the interior-without raising the price, lol.
The ATS is the smallest coupe. You need to test the ATS V. I am surprised that GM is selling this low brand for Cadillac. The fully loaded versions have magnetic ride control now. Kindly test the CTS VSPORT Platinum in Germany or the CT6 Platinum. We love your review style here in the United States and need to know how our cars compete. Thanks!
We ll have the ATS V soon in our review here!
I recommend the CTS-V (built to compete against the M5/C63AMG) as opposed to the smaller ATS V (built to compete against the M3/M4).
This is the best looking Sport Luxury sedan from all European as well as Asian vehicles combined but obviously it’s the only one that I can see having very distinct looks on it and looking very sexy
❤ I am n LUV with the car ALL WHEEL DRIVE
Funny, I drove the German (South african built) 3 Series and thought it was crude and not very well built
Love your cultured presentation. Well done.
Astonishing design!!. Nevertheless, in the U.S. when people think about a highclass car, they usually go for a MB, BMW or even Lexus. I think it's a shame that the interior looks much lower level than the rest of the car.
I own the sedan version and the interior really is not as bad as some people think. I actually prefer it to its German or Japanese counterparts. Everything feels firm and substantial, not cheap and flimsy. CUE has its haters but it works just fine for me. I really like the touch sensitive buttons that have been so polarizing.
Test drive the Cadillac CTS V. With the supercharged corvette v8
It will plant you in the seat
Possible you can do a 3.6 review ?!
+Felix The Cat check our ats v review that just aired!
How many kilometers did you drive with the car? Did you ever leave the "Industriegelände" or the "Innenstadt" at all?
Ronald de Rooij Of course we dont show hundreds of kilometres on camera. But we are always pre-driving the car before doing the previews of course. Overall, we do a couple of hundred kilometres with each car
The exterior looks fantastic. I think it could benefit from even sharper angles in the front. Am not really impressed with the interior, and I agree with Thomas that it's not in the same class as German cars. As an American, I would say that Cadillacs are common enough here that they don't really attract so much attention. My guess is that most people would only choose it over the BMW 4 series because it's cheaper in price.
Compared to my Audi A4 Quattro the ATS4 (AWD) handles much better, is far more fun to drive and feels more premium. Build quality is too early to tell. Looks great except for some minor details with the weatherstripping around front windshield. Negatives: much smaller trunk (not as bad as the Audi 80 models which had a tiny trunk), gauges a bit dated, only two floor hooks in trunk, turn knobs for AC vents do not light up, no LED headlights available yet, could use extra 2 inches rear legroom, needs a sunglasses storage area. Love the details that show GM based the car on BMW3/AUDiA4: fuel cap on passenger side is a good example.
Thank you for the comment in the tt roadster I posted last question there im wait your answer thank you !!
abu yosi sure :)
Oh, and one last thing that center staff panel where you complain about the touch sensitivity and the design of the vibration feedback with the touch controls well if you press while the car is on that center V at the very bottom of the panel, the whole panel lifts up like a garage door and there’s a hidden cubby in there. Not one review of this car from any model year shows that feature, and I think it’s amazing because it allows you to hide something of value in the car that nobody is gonna know is hidden
I like the interior, I love the exterior; I love how different and 'sharp' it looks. If I was spending £30,000+ on a compact saloon car, I don't want it to look like every other £30,000 saloon out there. I don't like the laggy infotainment system and I absolutely HATE the instrument cluster. They are terrible and look like they belong in a £9,000 Dacia not a Caddy! They need to be redesigned or include the all-digital display from the CTS (which is much, much better) as standard equipment.
+Tarik El-Yabani thanks for the feedback!
Thomas, here in American we love our Cadillac,but I do not like that touch interface.
D Lynch thanks for the feedback m8!
In my opinion this car looks great, and would seem like a more interesting choice in this category. Here in the US, you don't tend to see nearly as many of these Cadillacs as the BMW offerings in this class. Many Americans are drawn to the badge and brand without even considering the car itself. Exterior wise the Cadillac seems to be a little more unique and possibly a little more sporty looking. The BMW sedans seem a little more boring looking, and the Audi sedans quite boring looking. Mercedes C-class looks nice, exterior wise. If you are hoping to get a GM car interior that is superior to the BMW, Audi, or Mercedes cabin, I still think you will be consistently let down. But as far as exterior looks, and drivetrain/engine performance, this Cadillac seems to be quite good and very competitive in its class. Here in the US, and for my money, I would personally go with a Japanese sedan such as a Lexus, or possibly even an Acura if I was looking for the best value. But to answer the question posed by the reviewer: The BMW sedans are probably the most common luxury sedans seen on the roads here in the US, along with the Mercedes sedans. (German car manufacturers have known this for years, thus inflating the cars US price tag as compared to its prices in Germany; as well as the rest of Europe). There are a lot of Acura's out on the roads as far as the "entry level luxury sedans" sub category. Then followed by Lexus, Audi's, Cadillacs, etc. Infiniti's are sort of like unicorns these days. Not very many at all seen out on the roads; but their product line has been in transition recently. It should be noted that here in the US it is common knowledge that long term reliability is historically questionable for the German cars referenced here, as well as the home grown Cadillacs. In particular, annoying electrical problems. With that said, the consumer may choose the American car over the German car when taking into consideration they both have questionable reliability; thinking that at least the American car will be less expensive to repair here in the US. But as I mentioned before, the American consumer is often a slave to the brand name and badge on the car, thus BMW (and other German imports) continue to sell very well here. They are all very good cars, albeit very expensive to buy and maintain. Just my opinions, coming from an American consumer that has owned and driven many cars over the years including GM's, VW's, Mercedes, Audi's, Honda/Acura.
+Boateng 2018 interesting thoughts !
look my Cadillac Sedan... cool video
Ats or Arteon ?
Good car, but it has some bad details... First of all, this car looks so sharp and agressive, and while watching the review, I couldnt get out of my head, that the wheels look kinda small, maybe 19" would be better, but overall the design is pretty good. The biggest flaw with this car is its interior. Central console looks like a mix of upgraded , premium Opel Insignia and some korean manufacturers, and that wouldnt be bad , but Cadillac must be something special. And that speedometer looks like from Opel Omega from the 90"s, that is the worst detail for me , when I saw it I couldnt believe it.
But your review was great as always, I really enjoy the way you get into details and how intersting it sounds.
Question, please tell me what do you think of that speedometer, I cant stop thinking about it, LOL...
Marijan Matic I found the alloys great. Thanks for your comment! I agree to the interior and the speedometer though :)
I’ve test drove multiple German coupes and I don’t see the quality that supports their high price. Most German cars sell for pocket change after 4 years because they’re made with so much plastic for integral parts and cost a left arm to fix out of warranty.
nice video :) , this car looks different and interesting, but too big for a 3 door verison and only 2 seats in the back, those useless cupholders in the middle :/
newmabreu96 The thing is, even if they removed the cupholders, you couldn't sit there anyway since there is simply not enough space...
newmabreu96 thanks buddy!
Side/rear profile reminds me of my A5 coupé.
Too bad they kept amber bulb and not LED for front turn lights.
Interior is original, but I much prefer Audi's.
***** thanks for the feedback!
would like to see it in hybrid
Eric Larsen well I can drive on the alternate button. 😩 it saves on gas when it cuts off at a stop. Luckily for me I don’t drive too far.
These aren't seen too often over here either, but you must admit the interior quality is higher than the comparable 3-Series; I'd argue the W205 C-Class is much nicer quality though.
I've never had a rambling - movable middle console in a 3 series nor the cheap shiny plastic dashboard. The leather is supposed to give it a premium look but it's a cheap synthetic. I really like the cadillac for it's looks and it's definitely more special than a bmw audi or mercedes. But the finish of the car isn't nearly on par.
mathardo As someone that's spent a lot of time in both cars, I can tell you the 3 series isn't really better. The 3 series also uses synthetic material called "sensatec" on the seats, and it also feels very cheap for a "premium" car, very rough and rubbery. Also, when you tap on the dashboard, the instrument cover, the door panels, the side pockets, or the console, it has a very hollow sound. Some of the plastics feel thin and cheap around the gear shifter and centre stack. Some of the metal accents are fake. In fact, In the last 3 series I had driven, which was only a year old car, the metal accents on the air vents were peeling up like a sticker. Also, in the base 3 series, you get a very, very ugly and cheap silver painted plastic instead of real brushed metal or wood. I know a lot 3 series owners that feel the interior is cheap. With that said, a ATS is no winner for interior quality.
Kevin S Exactly! But I do feel the ATS is a little ahead on quality.
In Orange Country, California. People would preferred a Mercedes, Audi, BMW and Lexus, import brands over our domestic premium brand. Although limousine service would use mostly Cadillac. In our states, people may like the domestic premium brand.
I like the exterior style but not the interior. Not so functional and hard to use the buttonless controls. For this price range I would preferred Audi, BMW, Mercedes and Lexus. 🦅🦅👍🏻
The entire dashboard is designed to be custom set for desired pressure... It takes a brain to review a car nowadays
You forgot to mention the hidden compartment in the center console below the GPS screen. If you push below it, it will flip open and you have a place to put your phone and charge it. Quite clever solution: torqueaffair.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/ATS-compartment.jpg
A320Pilots Oh cool, where do I have to press?
A320Pilots Just found it, thanks! Very interesting detail :)
or your gun
You should do a review of the MY14 Saab 9-3 or maybe a MY10-11 9-5 Saab 9-5. Would be funny to see a review of these somewhat dated cars today. (I'm a Saab fan)
Matthew Mers Hehe yeah just one problem that there arent any Saab test vehicles...
Get in touch with NEVS (National Electric Vehicles Sweden) I'm sure they would love the publicity www.saabcars.com
Would be a dream come true if you did a Saab review but I will keep watching no matter what.
Matthew Mers But they are in Sweden, so I guess they wont ship one over to Germany dont you think? :)
I don't know, I'm American so Sweden to Germany does not seem that far. I would think they would send you a Saab 9-3 EV.
***** www.saabsunited.com/2015/06/nevs-activities-on-the-festival-weekend.html
i miss radio knobs
What happens with the windows at 0:19? :O
Péter Sági haha, well noticed :) Guess they were afraid of us ;-) Well actually, this is an automatic machanism for the temperatur inside the buildings ... so when too much sun is shining on that one, they close the shades.
***** Well, thats really cool, thanks :) Also the review is great of course!
Péter Sági thanks =)
Premium but not "high class" premium-- just a BIT of German bias Thomas ! but rear entry seat belt is ridiculous design! the V engine setup is amazing though !
the driving and handling is HIGH class
The ATS-V is a twin turbo V6, not a V8
Dominic Petty actually to be very correct, the V will be V6 and the V-Plus will be V8 :)
Cadillac sedans are a rare car in the U.S. I have never seen this sedan on the road in person. Actually, I've seen the CTS, but I don't remember ever seeing the ATS. Most Americans cannot or do not want to afford this car.
It is based on the American Muscle car - the Camaro. Many Americans like the Camaro. It sells for about $10,000 less and keeps 55% of its value after 3 years. The Cadillac ATS is currently the only U.S. built and designed car in this class. Even so, it doesn't sell well here due to poor name recognition. Acura, Lexus, and I think even Hyundai are more popular.
A lot of Americans are obsessed with Japanese and other Asian cars. I personally only ever liked the Mazda 3.
The engine should last until 300,000 km under 40 C heat and 95% humidity. If it breaks before then, there is a design defect. GM is notorious for cheap interiors. The outside looks of a car is generally considered and important selling point in American car.
Like the Camaro, the back seats are not meant to be functional. They exist on the unusual chance that somebody extra has to ride in the back. We generally have wider parking spaces than in Europe, so the coupe doors are not as bad.
I hope GM takes your suggestions to heart.
Cadillac sedans are rare in the US? Go get your eyes checked, pal. They're everywhere. I have no idea where you live but Hyundai are all over the place because they are cheap. I do agree with you on the Mazda though but make it the Mazda 6.
We need a drop top version
Leider haben sich paar kleine Fehler eingeschlichen (die V Version bekommt vorerst nur einen V6-Turbo, die vermeitnlichen "Plastik"-Paddles bestehen aus Magnesium, der Umrechnungsfaktor von hp auf PS ist ungleich 1, das Auto hat daher nur 270 hp). Abgesehen davon ein angenehm ausführlicher und kritischer Test!
TheMasterOfMovie Vielen Dank, stimmt! Auch wir lernen nur dazu :)
I think you made a mistake those paddles behind the wheel are not plastic they are magnesium. Also anything that looks like metal in a Cadillac is.....not plastic. Also Many talk about how the Germans are so premium but I know at least here in the states BMW's are so problematic and engine failure is not that uncommon. We have a site called Craigslist and you can get a modern used BMW with the engine shot all day long. Features cost a huge premium in them and then they costs a fortune to keep fixing the electronics. I would beg you to actually do some of your "test" on a BMW or Benz and see what results you get.
+rueben44 they are mag, yes
That's a really nice car! Only drawbacks are the Cadillac CUE (too attention-seeking!) and the limited engine choices (it needs a diesel engine for sure!)! I also think that the new 3 litre Twin-Turbo V6 of the CT6 should fit nicely in there, instead of the 3.6 V6! Especially in a facelifted ATS-V!
@5:35 : The ATS-V makes 465 hp, yes, but out of a 3.6 Twin-Turbo V6, not a V8!
And again I know this video is old but the reviewer picks up on things that I notice like the French stitching on the doors in the dashboard and then goes on to talk about how you get fingerprints everywhere but that is every car. The thing I don’t get is how he doesn’t mention that there’s French stitching on the ends of the dashboard and the doors but the middle stack in the center of the dash has molded stitching. That, to me, is the cheapest aspect of the design.. I mean, why would you do French stitching almost everywhere and then in the center stack which is the focal point of the dashboard do this cheap molded crosshatch lacing. I’m a retired designer, so that’s my take on my visualization and possibly nobody else does notice it but to me I think it is a design fail. One of the very few this car has.
Thanks Thomas & Co.
Thumbs up: exterior styling. I always appreciate seeing something "different" on the road.
Thumbs down: interior instrument cluster/gauges & the central console + controls.
Gear shift lever grotesque. Looks like an old woman's large toe.
Seems the designers didn't want anyone to use the rear seats ;)
I'm in Canada West. Very few of these on the roads. BMW, Audi & Mercedes as common as Honda civics here.
Cheers!
Mario Dalla Riva Great feedback Mario, and it seems we are on the same opinion here!
I like the side profile but I still think it's behind its German competition. The A5/S5 is still the benchmark IMO. Generally I don't think Cadillac does the coupe shape as well the sedan.
I like the way the bonnet lid fits flush along the top of the grill and lights, instead of adding an extra design line like with BMW.
Unfortunately that's about the only thing I like about this car. The interior looks dated, sluggish, flimsy plastic, hard design lines, impractical layout. Don't Americans care about quality? They must do surely, but then how does Cadillac manage to sell anything?
Wishwader The middle console is truly horrible. Not only is the plastic glossy (terrible idea) but also very flimsy. The gauges look like early 2000's GM stuff.
A shame for the interior, it can't mach the exterior in any way.
I've had a short test drive in the ATS sedan like a year ago. Didn't like it. It was very small inside, very tiny boot and low amount of space in the back, and the interior felt cheap. Overall it looked ok, it was mostly covered in "leather", but it just didn't feel premium, pieces of interior trim don't align properly, stitching on the dashboard was a bit uneven, plastic buttons and parts of trim would squeak when pressed hard with a finger, etc., and I just think that the fake leather they use on the dashboard looks and feels worse then high quality plastics. For example, IMHO Opel Astra has better quality plastic on the upper sides of door panels and on the dash. It just didn't have the feeling of solidity you get in German cars. And all the fake chrome parts that are actually plastic, and all the black shiny plastic all over the place make it feel like a Chevrolet inside. In fact, I think new Insignia feels more premium. ATS looks ok from distance, but when you inspect all the little details in the interior, you see it's not even up to VW level of quality, let alone Audi, BMW or Mercedes. It did drive pretty good though, quite sporty, but it was quite stiff and lacked comfort and refinement of a BMW 3 series for example. I don't know, to me Cadillacs are like rebranded Chevrolets with a bit more flashy parts inside, but generally feel the same and I definitely wouldn't call them a premium brand and would never buy one at the price they're sold for in Europe, they just don't offer anything that's better than what you get in European cars.
You're missing the point. The ATS is a great start for the proper direction of Cadillac. GM went from making vehicles like the DTS to something like this in 3 years. It's a great beginning; but, it's only the beginning. Cadillac will continue to improve. The CT6 is the next step and the CT8 LWB will further this concept.
***** This is borderline hysterical. BMW, with business tactics similar to badge-milking customers, is by far the worst at this.
derbigpr500 thanks for the interesting feedback, sharing most of your points!
***** You clearly don't speak from experience. I had the displeasure of buying a new Honda in 2012 and within 8,000 miles both the engine and transmission suffered manufacturing failures and had to be "replaced." Long story short, they had to buy it back from me. Honda post-2011 has not been the same as pre-2010. They had management issues and are surviving off of brand-image reliability. In other words, they know people will keep crawling to them because their parents 1989 Honda Accord was the most reliable vehicle they ever owned.
***** Again, I owned a TON of Hondas before 2010 and they don't compare to modern ones in terms of quality.
The V is going to be a twin turbo not V8. Now those paddles you called plastic and cheap behind the steering wheel are magnesium. Next you called the metal on the doors plastic just below the leather. Actually ever metal looking surface in a modern Cadillac is metal. For the dash you bashed the layering of materials. Well it is styled in a way that a designer would layer materials to see how they would work together and I love it. I think over all, as I could go on, you look to say something negative but you haven't educated yourself on the product before making a video.....that was supposed to be informative.
Raymond Johnson Thanks for the info, where you got these infos from ?
***** GM press releases and videos they post on the product.
Raymond Johnson Sorry for the mistakes, we are always trying to improve but ofc we are never perfect.
Währe an einem deutschen ausführlichen Bericht sehr interessiert!!
He read the manual.
and: "it is premium but not high class premium"
This means actually nothing! Just some MKT BS.
You're gonna get crazy rattles in the cabin with this one after a few years.
Why? Oh, that's right, you're full of excrement.
buzzhawk
E6000 glue
or shoe goo
my 2016 already has a rattle driver-side back deck. 23k miles lol
correct you are but its an easy find and secure/fix
None here I have a 2015 awd coupe and no rattles. Solid car. Best handling car I’ve driven.
Put a decent 500 cui Cadillac V8 in it!
a Cadillac CTS review woud be more interesting
marius george I ll try to deliver that as soon as its possible as well
what??????
overall very nice, but that seatbelt, COME ON! Are they even trying?
Jonas Borg hehe yeah =)
Id like you Thomas but sounds like u was tooooo hard with this vehicle....
Mon Mi Thanks for the feedback! Look at the other comments, they rather suggest I was too kind :)
***** hah its ok, its my opinion, not the federal law. :). Still enjoyung your work. Regards
Mon Mi I think he was being fair on the interior, but I think the ATS is much more enjoyable to drive than its competitors.
Mon Mi thanks bro!
Weird center console, shiny with a lot of fingeprints. Bad quality also....we europeans are spoiled with audi/bmw/merc choices.
+Marko Horvat Really because they break down all the time for us or have electronic issues. They also look cheap to me in base forms inside but they are getting better.
doesn't the gear lever (stick/shift) look like a... -
well like a... -
ok let's say it looks very "manly"... doesn't it ?
(but not circumcised)