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@@analopes312 when someone is trying to apologize you for minutes on end, at least GIVE them a sign you are listening. dont ignore them and make the situation worse. it fucking sucks.
@@purplebugg no man. Kids always apologize because they lost some kind of previlege and they think they will get it back by apologizing. Its rarely because they are really sorry and that hurts the parents.
Their arguments are too real. My mom and I watched this together and she said, "I'm glad I dont treat you like this" and I kind of looked at her confused because this is exactly how our relationship is and it's scary seeing it on a movie because you can relate too much. It's sad that she doesnt know what she was/ has been doing to me these past years. I have a love-hate relationship with her.
Too many times I wished I said that cheque scene to never talk to my mom again. I guess our parents don't always know the ways we wished they loved or hurt us, much less notice it. But I'm so glad Greta made this because it probably comforted so many of us to know we're not a singular anomaly in this intense love-hate relationship with our mothers.
The scene where her mom goes "i want you to be the very best version of yourself" and ladybird goes "what if this is the best version". That scene has stayed with me forever. I love it so much and it made me bawl my eyes out for some reason
it's like they want you to be a different person and when they say they love you they mean they love that version of you not the real version and they won't ever admit that
I can see both sides. To a mom, it sounds like your kid doesn't see the need to mature or improve anything about themselves and that's terrifying as their parent. But as a teen, you just want to be accepted for who you are now.
My mother said the same to me and I already saw this movie so I use lady bird's response, for my luck my mother reply "if this is your best that is fine".
That scene when ladybird is apologising over and over but her mother is just ignores her hurt me. It makes my chest physically ache. It just reminds me so much of me and my mother. It’s like, fuck you’ve actually given up on me. It’s so toxic for parents to do that. It makes their children feel like they shouldn’t and can’t make mistakes. It fucking hurts man
I hate that scene more because of the cause of that. Her mom was only ignoring her because Lady Bird had applied and gotten into a college, that she really wanted to go to, without telling her. I don’t care if you’re not made aware of it, you should be happy and proud for your child getting into a special college. If them getting into a great college pisses you off so much to point where you refuse to talk to them, then you shouldn’t be a parent
Ladybird's mom was kind of a garbage person tbh. Ladybird could be a brat at times, but at least her bratiness matched her age. The mom just never grew up; she's still as petty as a teenager.
@@superjackster0165 She was punishing her daughter because her daughter did something to threaten her sense of control. Parents who value control over their children and can't accept that raising their child successfully means losing that control (because the child becomes independent) are so damaging and don't even see it.
this movie was clearly made by someone who understands the complex mother-daughter relationships a lot of us have. you can fight like hell but bond over little things. you can feel like you hate her one day and then cry into her arms for her comfort the next.
Truth. I'll get into passive aggressive fights with my mom, but at the end of the day there is no unconditional love like that of a mother (a normal, good one). She has and always will be there for me, moms are amazing.
i cried during lady bird during the sections i didn’t think i would. when she said “why can’t you just say it looks nice” about her dress i started bawling
Yeah, I saw my mom and I immediately when I first watched this movie. The scene that got me is when they're shopping for the dress and ladybird says something like "do you like me?" and the mom says "of course I love you" and ladybird says "yes, but do you like me?" Sometimes I really feel like my mom feels like she just needs to put up with me until I leave.
Dude my mom has done that so much. She just shuts down around you. It feels so weird watching it from outside. But that doesnt mean we dont love eachother. I dont know, parents are complicated I guess.
I thought the saddest scene was the mom leaving the airport and then getting progressively more sad and aware that her daughter is leaving and she didn’t even say goodbye to her or hug her or anything. The acting in that scene alone was amazing.
the scene where the mom wont reply physically hurts me- it's just way to realistic to me and my mom like I have said some of the same things like "Im so sorry im so ungrateful" while bawling. The dress part is also accurate we are so hot and cold like that and it confuses the shit out of me. I love her but I hate her.
Everyone's talking about the bit where the mom refuses to talk. When that happened with me and my mom I made a silent vow to leave her out of my life. Because if she didn't respect me enough to talk then she shouldn't be in my life. But in some way I still love her. I dont know what this means for us.
It's okay to have mixed feelings about your parents in general, especially when they are abusive (emotionally and or physically) like your mother. It seems like you took a decision that focused on your wellbeing and I applaud you for that, I can only imagine how hard it was for you. I hope you're feeling "better" and getting help if you need it.
Tbh my relationship with my mom was so toxic I grieved our relationship and gave up on her and her love fully. It was painful but my life is so much less tortured now. I accepted that I can't be close with her and that she will never try to change in anyway to make our relationship better no matter how hard I try on my end. Maybe thats not true for you and your mom but I'm just saying its an option.
Sometimes people are so hurt they don't know what to say. Parents aren't supposed to be perfect. I stop thinking that my mother was responsible for feelings a long time ago
i remember when i was a child, i would get the silent treatment and i just accepted it. when i was a teen, it would drive me nuts, and i chased her around begging her to talk to me and i still got no reply, i was genuinely saying sorry, but her silence made it feel like i wasn't allowed to exist until she acknowledges me. i remember her getting mad at me when i was a child, 'cause she misheard me saying a curse word at her when i didn't. she didn't talk to me for days, so did my sister and father, i contemplated running away. it felt like i was experiencing withdrawal when i was being ignored by her. i don't even remember how it ended. she was always passive aggressive as well, she would always throw shit around but never verbally admit that she's mad. even if im not the one at fault, i remember instances where she directs her anger at me, 'cause she doesn't allow herself to get mad at my father (we're financially dependent on him) and my brother (he's on the spectrum, so he throws tantrums if he senses that someones is mad at him). she expected me to act like an adult when my little brother was born, and guilt tripped me everytime i voice out my hurt and feelings and whenever i was immature, buy i was still a child back then, and i wasn't allowed to be one. my speaking voice as a child was loud, now my voice is weak. i rarely speak and its hard for others to hear me. my friend jokingly gave me the silent treatment and i had to hold my tears back. i love and hate her, and i'll think both emotions will never go away, and i learned that its okay, not everything has to be black and white. i learned to be more cautious around her, she'll never be the mother figure that i need, so i'm tryna mother myself. i don't wanna watch this movie, 'cause i know i'll be sad for days. i cried intensely just by watching this lmao. my chest feels less heavy now :>
thank you for sharing your feelings, its something that i've also felt with my mother growing up. I also haven't watched ladybird yet because its emotionally triggering for me. I've been living on my own now and I'm trying my best to heal my wounds and grow from the pain so its nice to find someone who is on a similar boat as me. I hope you heal your inner child and find the right people that make you feel safe.
My relationship with my mother got so much better after i grieved the loss of our bond. She did the same thing to me, made a scandall over a little thing, made me cry and apologize over something i didnt do and ignored me while at that, i hit rock bottom when she told me to end my life. So i grieved, i was done, it was enough. Now she is just a simple friend i live with, we laugh, we get along, but she is no dear mother to me anymore, she has no access to my heart nor my vulnerability and she will have to learn how to grieve that on her own
doesn’t it hurt still? i’ve done the same and we rarely talk but when we do we get along fine , though it just makes me think she never wanted a daughter
I cry every time I watch this movie, my mom and I have the same relationship, and it's so hard... You wanna change sth but suddenly a comment or an action that she says or I say.... Ruines the whole thing...
i hate the scene where lady bird keeps talking to her mom and apologizing and she's just pretending she's not even there... i fight a lot with my mom and i'm just scared that someday we have a fight so big that she'll end up doing that to me
I hate that scene more because of the cause of that. Her mom was only ignoring her because Lady Bird had applied and gotten into a college, that she really wanted to go to, without telling her. I don’t care if you’re not made aware of it, you should be happy and proud for your child getting into a special college. If them getting into a great college pisses you off so much to point where you refuse to talk to them, then you shouldn’t be a parent
@@StikWitClassics I understand that. But that’s why people talk things out. Not have one person ignore the other and act like they’re deaf around them for months
My mom did this to me so much I would start conversations by saying "I need to tell you something and I need you to not ignore me" and she would just raise her eyebrows while looking at her phone. So I would add "and look at me when I talk too" needless to say, by this point I barely liked to talk to her and only would do so if I saw no other choice. Good riddance.
It was good to see in this film the moment when the mom goes too far with the fight. 'I highly doubt you could get a job good enough to do that'. Wow, mom. It's rare in movies where the parent makes such a mistake. And not apologize for it, which tends to be closer to reality.
my mom passed away in 2019, she watched this movie before me and she told me this movie reminded her of our own relationship. i watched this movie for myself months after she passed. watching it made me feel so many things. the fights felt so real, especially the one that was leading up to them finding the dress on the coatrack. when me and my mom fought, we hella fought and we’d usually didn’t talk about it afterwards, life just went on. when i look back growing up, i find myself angry at my mom for when we fought but then feeling guilty afterwards but i remembered us doing regular house chores, grocery shoppings, and just having comfortable silence in car drives. this movie brought me a lot of comfort knowing girls grew up having this sort of relationship with their moms. it reminds me that these sort of arguments are real but there are moments that you have love and laughter with mothers. i’m just grateful for greta portraying this sort of tumultuous mother-daughter bonding and being reminded that you’re gonna fight, you’re gonna say hurtful things, and it pulled me into perspective about why my mom did and say the things she did because she grew up practically raising herself and a younger brother and i remind myself to think about her mindset. whenever i’m feeling overwhelmed with grief, i go back to this edit or rewatch the movie to allow myself to breathe and cry. thank you for this.
I feel like ladybird does not need to apologize. I may not have seen the movie but i have seen some scenes, and from what i have seen her mother needs to stop projecting her own issues on ladybird.
@@Amber19882002 Seriously? Ladybird was shown to be quite unlikeable and bratty at the beginning of the movie the entire point was that she matured. The film is almost a love letter to mothers she definitely was in the right on quite a few things. Ladybird got suspended trying to look cool for a bunch of shallow kids who didn't give a fuck about her, something that was easily avoidable. An expensive Catholic school when she knew for a fact that her father was out of a job and they were bleeding money. She was apologetic but not sorry enough to have not done it in the first place. The mom can be nitpicky but a lot of what ladybird does comes from her being a selfish, inconsiderate,and shallow teenage girl which she grows out of. I'd say her mom is definitely in the right to be mad especially when she works herself to death supporting her family and is still disrespected consistently by ladybird.
@@yuo3670 The mother's refusal to even acknowledge Ladybird's presence when she's crying and begging her to talk was crossing a line. Ladybird applied to a New York college and got in without her mother's "permission"-- she didn't need her mother's permission to apply, if she doesn't want to pay for the college that is the mother's choice but she doesn't get to decide if Ladybird applies or not and the only reason Ladybird didn't tell her is because her mother was constantly saying that she wasn't good enough, that she would fail, that going out of state was selfish. I mean, yeah, Ladybird is a brat. She's a 17/18 year old. Teens are brats, and then they grow up and get over it (hopefully, lol, some never do unfortunately). Ladybird's mother is a middle-aged woman who should be able to handle things better than refusing to even acknowledge her daughter or say goodbye when she is leaving.
@@learn2draw716 Okay? I got in trouble growing up of course but you know there's an age where you become aware of your family's financial status and consequences that come with being selfish. I mean,come on maybe it's because I grew up in a more traditional African family and it's not common with American households. But your parents usually tell you what's up at some point it's up to you to not be dumb.
There's a scene outside the trial room where she asks, Mom do you like me? mother keeps quiet and she asks again and her mother says, I love you (i want the best version of yourself, for you) then daughter asks that's ok, but you like me? and mother remains quiet..I'll not forget that scene, it was relatable for me, it still is, I feel my mother loves me, concerned about me but doesn't like me anymore...has anyone else felt like that? I mean I am sounding bizarre but I don't feel the love even though I know she loves me you know.
Yeah been there, literally just a few weeks ago had the talk w my mom . . . Sometimes I do feel like she doesn't like some aspects of the way I act or think, but at that moment I talked with her I just felt loved - even tho being liked feels different - looking back now I understand her, I also don't like some things about her or agree with some of her actions but I still love her, and I think she feels the same way.... It's hard to imagine there's a perfect parents X kids relationship out there, it's so difficult for us to understand each other
Hey Hazel, it's really good editing, from the clip i can tell thag you love this movie very much, you really capture the essential of their mother-daughter relationship. Thanks for making this. I'm gonna save it in my list.
this is my relationship with my mom and sometimes we get along, sometimes we don’t. and sometimes i wish i could leave but sometimes i just feel like i need to be with her. and also her relationship with her dad is me too, my dad is very caring and i just wish him the best :).
thank you so much :'), i graduated from my previous school last year and on top of that, their mother-daughter dynamic was painfully real i rushed to make a video from it. I love this movie too much.
I miss my mom a lot. Watching this is making me cry uncontrollably. Sometimes we have no control over the way things are and have to learn to live a certain way. I hope it gets better some day.
God the argument and then immediately looking at the dress is just like me and my mom. It’s like I used to dwell and apologize Everytime we argued, but eventually learned to forget immediately like she does. I still kinda hate it though, but you do what you can.
Reminds me of when my mother would start a fight, cry to make me feel guilty and when I tried my best to apologize for something I'd never done she would lock her bedroom door and ignore me for hours to days.
My mom is like that. We rarely speak now and I don't really think of myself as having a mother or parents. I still wish to have a motherly relationship in my life but I gave up on having it with her. Someone so vindictive, mean, toxic, and selfish.
My Mom and I relationship is just like this and it hurts how normalize this is that it makes you wish to hate your parents and never look back because of so much damage the parents could give you as a child.
I am so happy I’m not the only one who’s experienced being frozen out by a parent. It evokes a really uniquely painful type of shame and desperation - this is the first time I’ve seen it portrayed anywhere.
Saoirse and Laurie's casting is beyond inspired. I remember watching Laurie as Roseanne's sister on "Roseanne" and I had no idea then that she had this huge volume of pain and venom within her ... characters.
Nope, kids owe patents the same things they need to have in a society. Respect, kindness, empathy, decency, etc... Lady Bird and her mom's whole dynamic revolves around that neither are perfect and are struggling, but they still love each other deeply. It's a complex nuisanced depiction of 2 vocal, headstrong personalities.
So am I the only mother of teens watching this and feeling things? I don't do a lot of the things the mother does here - I don't do the silent treatment, for example - but just the overall turbulence. That things can swing back and forth so suddenly over what seems like the smallest things sometimes. I love my kids so much, but parenting is not for wimps.
My mother and I went through a lot of shit together. A lot of problems. I helped her at her weakest but when I was diagnosed with depression, she helped but still shouted on me for staying in bed and not coming out. In the beginning she was helping but later she just got irritated in a minute. It made me feel so weak and sadder. Always told me that I am lazy but never saw that what she was going through earlier was the safe suffering I was going through then. Even today becuase of the old shit we fight but on the other side I love her a lot too. I know she does too. She hugs me a lot and hears to every problem I have but its just that she hears those problems and scolds me for overthinking and getting anxious over nothing. She never helps directly instead of pointing out my flaws. Our relationship is exactly like ladybird and her mother's. I love her but sometimes I just want her to show some more affection because of the big problems which made major changes in our life. Both of us are not mentally stable rn but I just want some more love and support. Maybe she is teaching me that in life I will not always be heard. Idk what she is proving with the silent treatment and constant flaw picking but I know that I love her a lot but at times hate her too.
my dad and I were watching the movie and we kinda kept staring at each other throughout the movie because my relationship with my mom is kinda like this and I really wanted the movie to end
I remember always being the one to apologize to my mom over our huge arguments even when it wasn’t my fault and didn’t do anything wrong. Then one time she said a bunch of really harsh things and told me “don’t bother apologizing either because blah blah” idk I try to shut it out. I still hate her so much because I love her still.
My mom is like that and I'm so glad I cut her out of my life. I do yearn for familial relationships but I think I'm better off not living in that emotional torture anymore. My parents are both so emotionally stunted and petty, I realized if I was ever going to be happy I had to do whatever I could to not end up bitter and small and vindictive like them.
When I first watched Ladybird I didn't really understand why so many people had a strong emotional reaction to the movie. It's only later that I realised it was because I was raised by a ladybird myself. A mom who herself had a bad relationship with her mother and consequently raised her kids in a completely different way. It made me realise how lucky I was.
Honestly her mom is a bad mom. Like this is not the way to build up a confident person by constantly putting them down. I know it’s just her moms own insecurities but damn way to damage your kid
Haven't watched this film yet but 'Lady bird" 's frustration matches mine perfectly except my mom is'nt this physically warm but she tryed & still trying her best despite her narcissism which have my whole life & gave me hell & made me do crazy shit. She is way older now & been through lot's of family trauma as did myself & I just still wish she would ever come to grasp how much I love her despite my hatred of her actions against me & making me go through hell when I took care of my father dying of Alzheimer's all alone. life is hell but try to live it so your concious is as clear as possible ❤️
Idk that did have a toxic relashionship but I think it was like acc a really hopeful and Inspring movie. I related to it in the way that your mom and you can really hurt each other, but only when your separate do you realize how much you love them. It’s like a level of love and forgiveness that I think we seldom reach in life except in these moments.
I’m blessed in that my mom and I have a much better relationship than Lady Bird and her mother. We still had disagreements but never to this level. The only time I had to deal with the “silent treatment” though was when I wanted to study abroad from college and I guess I was so far away that my mom felt like I was trying to escape from her or something. I think that’s the thing about mothers and daughters - you fight because you love each other so much. But a scene that also got to me is when Lady Bird was arguing with her mom about putting her clothes away and her mother says, matter-of-factor, “my mother was a raging alcoholic” or something like that. Our parents are just trying to do their best. A lot of them come from their own troubled pasts. When we’re young we can’t recognize that. It was only when I grew up that I recognized the strength my parents possessed to break generational trauma and raise us in a different way than they had been raised. Love you mom ❤️
I loved this whole film, but I also loved that they chose actors of a realistic age to play the parents of a teenager. I just don’t think you can go wrong with a Greta Gerwing film in general 💕
Even if you got along with your mom most of the time, I think most daughters and maybe mothers can see themselves in many of these little moments. You still wanna kill each other sometimes lol.
I can only partially relate to the film because I wasn’t able to talk to my mom like the main character did to hers, and my mom is much worse than the mother here. I knew why my mom said she likes this movie because one day she told me to my face that she didn’t like me, minus the “I love you but” part lol
I loved this movie. I appreciate the nice job you did assembling everything for this montage. I still cannot stand listening to Pachelbel's Canon. It has been used far too many times in the past 25 years for me to enjoy hearing it... yet again.
That woman is a fucking monster. Lady is deadass a good kid- I’m genuinely confused on what she did wrong??? This is why some people don’t deserve to have kids If I had a mom like that, she’d be dead to me. I envy people that still love their parents despite them being terrible people-I’m cool on that shit 🤮🤦🏽♀️
the way her mother gives her the silence treatment when she finds out about college making her feel guilty about finally getting something she really wanted... it shouldn't be this relatable. I've been dealing with this since I was 7. some people won't understand the things that happen during childhood can really hurt you for a long time.
Luckily, for the most part my mom and I generally have a better relationship than this. That being said, the one scene I did relate to was "Why can't you just say the dress looks nice". My mom is more traditional, so I hated shopping with her because there was always something wrong with the clothes I liked because they weren't to her taste. Even as an adult I will hear "Is that long enough?" "Are you going to wear that?" I think a lot of girls can relate to that and it's frustrating.
when i would get hurt and my mom would get mad she would insult me and ignored me or leave the room not talk to me or break my stuff really a great and fun childhood/teen years
I'm not sure if you're assessment is all together correct. Ladybird is incredibly flawed as a character, she isn't very poised either. She slouches a lot, constantly questions herself, and is breaking out. Saoirse Ronan said she was having a really bad acne breakout during filming and instead of covering it up, she wanted to show her pimples because she felt it accurately portrayed her experience growing up and most teenagers.
Someone told me the reason there’s a lot of mother daughter relationships like this is cuz the mother and the daughter are a lot alike, and the mother recognizes this first, trying to overcorrect so her daughter doesn’t make similar mistakes she did, but it doesn’t always come out right, if ever.
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Good but song's too loud
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Apologising to your mama while she ignores you is a whole different level of pain.
i hope your havent had to go through that, and if you have, i hope youve grown from it. :')
Its like moms are people too and they deserve to feel stuff and be mad for a minute when the daughters do something bad.
@@analopes312 when someone is trying to apologize you for minutes on end, at least GIVE them a sign you are listening. dont ignore them and make the situation worse. it fucking sucks.
@@purplebugg no man. Kids always apologize because they lost some kind of previlege and they think they will get it back by apologizing. Its rarely because they are really sorry and that hurts the parents.
@@analopes312 Idk what kind of kids you know, but I apologize when I feel bad for what ive done and i see my mother sad
Their arguments are too real. My mom and I watched this together and she said, "I'm glad I dont treat you like this" and I kind of looked at her confused because this is exactly how our relationship is and it's scary seeing it on a movie because you can relate too much. It's sad that she doesnt know what she was/ has been doing to me these past years. I have a love-hate relationship with her.
Too many times I wished I said that cheque scene to never talk to my mom again. I guess our parents don't always know the ways we wished they loved or hurt us, much less notice it. But I'm so glad Greta made this because it probably comforted so many of us to know we're not a singular anomaly in this intense love-hate relationship with our mothers.
@@Amber19882002 yea haha
Same
Mine told me I acted as spoiled as ladybird. The message of this movie just goes over their heads lmao
same :(
The scene where her mom goes "i want you to be the very best version of yourself" and ladybird goes "what if this is the best version". That scene has stayed with me forever. I love it so much and it made me bawl my eyes out for some reason
same I related a lot
it's like they want you to be a different person and when they say they love you they mean they love that version of you not the real version and they won't ever admit that
I can see both sides. To a mom, it sounds like your kid doesn't see the need to mature or improve anything about themselves and that's terrifying as their parent. But as a teen, you just want to be accepted for who you are now.
My mother said the same to me and I already saw this movie so I use lady bird's response, for my luck my mother reply "if this is your best that is fine".
@@yesimemoin0935ppl only become better when they have the space to grow. Using shame is like watering a plant with pepsi to get it to grow.
That scene when ladybird is apologising over and over but her mother is just ignores her hurt me. It makes my chest physically ache. It just reminds me so much of me and my mother. It’s like, fuck you’ve actually given up on me. It’s so toxic for parents to do that. It makes their children feel like they shouldn’t and can’t make mistakes. It fucking hurts man
Exactly my mother does that when she is mad and it makes you feel invisible and helpless
I hate that scene more because of the cause of that. Her mom was only ignoring her because Lady Bird had applied and gotten into a college, that she really wanted to go to, without telling her. I don’t care if you’re not made aware of it, you should be happy and proud for your child getting into a special college. If them getting into a great college pisses you off so much to point where you refuse to talk to them, then you shouldn’t be a parent
Ladybird's mom was kind of a garbage person tbh. Ladybird could be a brat at times, but at least her bratiness matched her age. The mom just never grew up; she's still as petty as a teenager.
This whole damn movie is just so damn depressing
@@superjackster0165 She was punishing her daughter because her daughter did something to threaten her sense of control.
Parents who value control over their children and can't accept that raising their child successfully means losing that control (because the child becomes independent) are so damaging and don't even see it.
this movie was clearly made by someone who understands the complex mother-daughter relationships a lot of us have. you can fight like hell but bond over little things. you can feel like you hate her one day and then cry into her arms for her comfort the next.
I mean it was made by Greta Gerwig and it correlated her past
@@darlingjo7492 Definitely, without her this movie wouldn’t get impactful scenes like this
Truth. I'll get into passive aggressive fights with my mom, but at the end of the day there is no unconditional love like that of a mother (a normal, good one). She has and always will be there for me, moms are amazing.
@@taylorbooker8463lucky you. some moms are amazing, others do very much only give you conditional love.
Yup. I do recognize and very much appreciate that I'm blessed. I wish everyone had a good mom.@@jasmim6612
i cried during lady bird during the sections i didn’t think i would. when she said “why can’t you just say it looks nice” about her dress i started bawling
that moment was too relatable!
Yeah, I saw my mom and I immediately when I first watched this movie. The scene that got me is when they're shopping for the dress and ladybird says something like "do you like me?" and the mom says "of course I love you" and ladybird says "yes, but do you like me?" Sometimes I really feel like my mom feels like she just needs to put up with me until I leave.
Very possible
Almost like Troy and Cory in Fences
I relate to it very much, my mom said “I actually hate you as a person”
When she’s talking to her mom and the mom ignores her, hits way too close to home, that’s me with everything I do
It hurts
i hope that you and your mom are better now :')
Dude my mom has done that so much. She just shuts down around you. It feels so weird watching it from outside. But that doesnt mean we dont love eachother. I dont know, parents are complicated I guess.
This brings tears to my eyes. My relationship with my mother is like this. We're very much alike and we do get into spats. But she's my whole world.
same for myself :’) we still love them in the end
how?
hey same same
These scenes are legit me and my mom. But its becuz i act like my dad
@@iamy3356 I act like my Dad, too
One of the most realistic portrayals of a mother/daughter relationship I have ever seen on screen.
I thought the saddest scene was the mom leaving the airport and then getting progressively more sad and aware that her daughter is leaving and she didn’t even say goodbye to her or hug her or anything. The acting in that scene alone was amazing.
the scene where the mom wont reply physically hurts me- it's just way to realistic to me and my mom like I have said some of the same things like "Im so sorry im so ungrateful" while bawling. The dress part is also accurate we are so hot and cold like that and it confuses the shit out of me. I love her but I hate her.
Everyone's talking about the bit where the mom refuses to talk. When that happened with me and my mom I made a silent vow to leave her out of my life. Because if she didn't respect me enough to talk then she shouldn't be in my life. But in some way I still love her. I dont know what this means for us.
ultimately, you still love each other
It's okay to have mixed feelings about your parents in general, especially when they are abusive (emotionally and or physically) like your mother.
It seems like you took a decision that focused on your wellbeing and I applaud you for that, I can only imagine how hard it was for you.
I hope you're feeling "better" and getting help if you need it.
Tbh my relationship with my mom was so toxic I grieved our relationship and gave up on her and her love fully.
It was painful but my life is so much less tortured now. I accepted that I can't be close with her and that she will never try to change in anyway to make our relationship better no matter how hard I try on my end.
Maybe thats not true for you and your mom but I'm just saying its an option.
Sometimes people are so hurt they don't know what to say. Parents aren't supposed to be perfect. I stop thinking that my mother was responsible for feelings a long time ago
i remember when i was a child, i would get the silent treatment and i just accepted it. when i was a teen, it would drive me nuts, and i chased her around begging her to talk to me and i still got no reply, i was genuinely saying sorry, but her silence made it feel like i wasn't allowed to exist until she acknowledges me.
i remember her getting mad at me when i was a child, 'cause she misheard me saying a curse word at her when i didn't. she didn't talk to me for days, so did my sister and father, i contemplated running away. it felt like i was experiencing withdrawal when i was being ignored by her. i don't even remember how it ended.
she was always passive aggressive as well, she would always throw shit around but never verbally admit that she's mad. even if im not the one at fault, i remember instances where she directs her anger at me, 'cause she doesn't allow herself to get mad at my father (we're financially dependent on him) and my brother (he's on the spectrum, so he throws tantrums if he senses that someones is mad at him).
she expected me to act like an adult when my little brother was born, and guilt tripped me everytime i voice out my hurt and feelings and whenever i was immature, buy i was still a child back then, and i wasn't allowed to be one.
my speaking voice as a child was loud, now my voice is weak. i rarely speak and its hard for others to hear me. my friend jokingly gave me the silent treatment and i had to hold my tears back.
i love and hate her, and i'll think both emotions will never go away, and i learned that its okay, not everything has to be black and white. i learned to be more cautious around her, she'll never be the mother figure that i need, so i'm tryna mother myself.
i don't wanna watch this movie, 'cause i know i'll be sad for days. i cried intensely just by watching this lmao.
my chest feels less heavy now :>
im so so sorry .. :c
You deserved better. I’m sorry that happened to you and I hope you get to claim your voice back.
I'm so sorry, this made me teary eyed😔😔😞😞😟😟😢😢😥😥😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💘💘💘👍👍👍👌👌💯💯
thank you for sharing your feelings, its something that i've also felt with my mother growing up. I also haven't watched ladybird yet because its emotionally triggering for me. I've been living on my own now and I'm trying my best to heal my wounds and grow from the pain so its nice to find someone who is on a similar boat as me. I hope you heal your inner child and find the right people that make you feel safe.
My relationship with my mother got so much better after i grieved the loss of our bond. She did the same thing to me, made a scandall over a little thing, made me cry and apologize over something i didnt do and ignored me while at that, i hit rock bottom when she told me to end my life.
So i grieved, i was done, it was enough. Now she is just a simple friend i live with, we laugh, we get along, but she is no dear mother to me anymore, she has no access to my heart nor my vulnerability and she will have to learn how to grieve that on her own
My heart aches for you, I’m so sorry this happened to you.💔
doesn’t it hurt still? i’ve done the same and we rarely talk but when we do we get along fine , though it just makes me think she never wanted a daughter
3 seconds in about eggs and I already relate.
Parents giving you the silent treatment is one of the worst kinds of abuse because it hurts and it's scary but it leaves no physical scars.
I cry every time I watch this movie, my mom and I have the same relationship, and it's so hard... You wanna change sth but suddenly a comment or an action that she says or I say.... Ruines the whole thing...
i hate the scene where lady bird keeps talking to her mom and apologizing and she's just pretending she's not even there... i fight a lot with my mom and i'm just scared that someday we have a fight so big that she'll end up doing that to me
I hate that scene more because of the cause of that. Her mom was only ignoring her because Lady Bird had applied and gotten into a college, that she really wanted to go to, without telling her. I don’t care if you’re not made aware of it, you should be happy and proud for your child getting into a special college. If them getting into a great college pisses you off so much to point where you refuse to talk to them, then you shouldn’t be a parent
@@superjackster0165 Because it was an out of state college they can't afford.
@@StikWitClassics I understand that. But that’s why people talk things out. Not have one person ignore the other and act like they’re deaf around them for months
It was my whole life with my mom, it’s unfortunately common
My mom did this to me so much I would start conversations by saying "I need to tell you something and I need you to not ignore me" and she would just raise her eyebrows while looking at her phone. So I would add "and look at me when I talk too" needless to say, by this point I barely liked to talk to her and only would do so if I saw no other choice. Good riddance.
Like, it's really true when you argue with your mom about something and then being like "It's perfect" with something random
i know i can lie and be a bad person . wow that hit me
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the scene where they were shopping for the thanksgiving dress hits way too close to home
i just saw me and my mother in this movie. i'm gonna be the best mum i can to my future children
you will be the best mom to your future children
You can be the best parent you think can be and your children will still hate you for something, as is evident from all these comments
It was good to see in this film the moment when the mom goes too far with the fight. 'I highly doubt you could get a job good enough to do that'. Wow, mom. It's rare in movies where the parent makes such a mistake. And not apologize for it, which tends to be closer to reality.
my mom passed away in 2019, she watched this movie before me and she told me this movie reminded her of our own relationship. i watched this movie for myself months after she passed. watching it made me feel so many things. the fights felt so real, especially the one that was leading up to them finding the dress on the coatrack. when me and my mom fought, we hella fought and we’d usually didn’t talk about it afterwards, life just went on. when i look back growing up, i find myself angry at my mom for when we fought but then feeling guilty afterwards but i remembered us doing regular house chores, grocery shoppings, and just having comfortable silence in car drives. this movie brought me a lot of comfort knowing girls grew up having this sort of relationship with their moms. it reminds me that these sort of arguments are real but there are moments that you have love and laughter with mothers. i’m just grateful for greta portraying this sort of tumultuous mother-daughter bonding and being reminded that you’re gonna fight, you’re gonna say hurtful things, and it pulled me into perspective about why my mom did and say the things she did because she grew up practically raising herself and a younger brother and i remind myself to think about her mindset. whenever i’m feeling overwhelmed with grief, i go back to this edit or rewatch the movie to allow myself to breathe and cry. thank you for this.
thank you for sharing your feelings :’) im glad this edit has helped you
I feel like ladybird does not need to apologize. I may not have seen the movie but i have seen some scenes, and from what i have seen her mother needs to stop projecting her own issues on ladybird.
hahaha, a very typical mother-daughter relationship actually. even after watching this movie for the 100th time i still get mad at the mother :')
@@Amber19882002 Seriously? Ladybird was shown to be quite unlikeable and bratty at the beginning of the movie the entire point was that she matured. The film is almost a love letter to mothers she definitely was in the right on quite a few things. Ladybird got suspended trying to look cool for a bunch of shallow kids who didn't give a fuck about her, something that was easily avoidable. An expensive Catholic school when she knew for a fact that her father was out of a job and they were bleeding money. She was apologetic but not sorry enough to have not done it in the first place. The mom can be nitpicky but a lot of what ladybird does comes from her being a selfish, inconsiderate,and shallow teenage girl which she grows out of. I'd say her mom is definitely in the right to be mad especially when she works herself to death supporting her family and is still disrespected consistently by ladybird.
@@yuo3670 The mother's refusal to even acknowledge Ladybird's presence when she's crying and begging her to talk was crossing a line. Ladybird applied to a New York college and got in without her mother's "permission"-- she didn't need her mother's permission to apply, if she doesn't want to pay for the college that is the mother's choice but she doesn't get to decide if Ladybird applies or not and the only reason Ladybird didn't tell her is because her mother was constantly saying that she wasn't good enough, that she would fail, that going out of state was selfish. I mean, yeah, Ladybird is a brat. She's a 17/18 year old. Teens are brats, and then they grow up and get over it (hopefully, lol, some never do unfortunately). Ladybird's mother is a middle-aged woman who should be able to handle things better than refusing to even acknowledge her daughter or say goodbye when she is leaving.
@@yuo3670 We have a perfect little princess here.
@@learn2draw716 Okay? I got in trouble growing up of course but you know there's an age where you become aware of your family's financial status and consequences that come with being selfish. I mean,come on maybe it's because I grew up in a more traditional African family and it's not common with American households. But your parents usually tell you what's up at some point it's up to you to not be dumb.
There's a scene outside the trial room where she asks, Mom do you like me? mother keeps quiet and she asks again and her mother says, I love you (i want the best version of yourself, for you) then daughter asks that's ok, but you like me? and mother remains quiet..I'll not forget that scene, it was relatable for me, it still is, I feel my mother loves me, concerned about me but doesn't like me anymore...has anyone else felt like that? I mean I am sounding bizarre but I don't feel the love even though I know she loves me you know.
Yeah been there, literally just a few weeks ago had the talk w my mom . . . Sometimes I do feel like she doesn't like some aspects of the way I act or think, but at that moment I talked with her I just felt loved - even tho being liked feels different - looking back now I understand her, I also don't like some things about her or agree with some of her actions but I still love her, and I think she feels the same way....
It's hard to imagine there's a perfect parents X kids relationship out there, it's so difficult for us to understand each other
at 4:25 and 4:33 when it switches from lady bird to her mom it's so good, I love the parallels
Hey Hazel, it's really good editing, from the clip i can tell thag you love this movie very much, you really capture the essential of their mother-daughter relationship. Thanks for making this. I'm gonna save it in my list.
Thanh Hoàng oh my god thank you so much for this comment😭😭😭😭🖤
i watched this with my mom and i think it was a moment of reflection for her lmao
hey where had u seen this movie bcoz its not available on u tube
I think my mom just thought that every shitty thing she did was okay because of this movie. And she used it to make fun of me.
this is my relationship with my mom and sometimes we get along, sometimes we don’t. and sometimes i wish i could leave but sometimes i just feel like i need to be with her. and also her relationship with her dad is me too, my dad is very caring and i just wish him the best :).
A+ Editing, choice of clips and soundtrack. i love this movie so much
thank you so much :'), i graduated from my previous school last year and on top of that, their mother-daughter dynamic was painfully real i rushed to make a video from it. I love this movie too much.
Watched this with my mom and my mom agreed with the mom the whole time 🙃✌️and she wonders why we have a rocky relationship
I love that you put wedding music in the background
HAHHAHAHAA :')
I say "give me a number" 3 times now to my parent over the smallest fight 😣
I miss my mom a lot. Watching this is making me cry uncontrollably. Sometimes we have no control over the way things are and have to learn to live a certain way. I hope it gets better some day.
God the argument and then immediately looking at the dress is just like me and my mom. It’s like I used to dwell and apologize Everytime we argued, but eventually learned to forget immediately like she does. I still kinda hate it though, but you do what you can.
Funny because when I was watching that movie my mother told me “thank godness you have never been like this” but she’s exactly like that and worse 👌🏽
“Is it too pink?” Lol 😂
I think it fits because it matches with her hair
@@TheRedRoseofJujutsuKaisen I think the top was a bit baggy but it looked better later when she went to prom
Reminds me of when my mother would start a fight, cry to make me feel guilty and when I tried my best to apologize for something I'd never done she would lock her bedroom door and ignore me for hours to days.
My mom is like that. We rarely speak now and I don't really think of myself as having a mother or parents. I still wish to have a motherly relationship in my life but I gave up on having it with her. Someone so vindictive, mean, toxic, and selfish.
My Mom and I relationship is just like this and it hurts how normalize this is that it makes you wish to hate your parents and never look back because of so much damage the parents could give you as a child.
With your dad having an existential crisis in the background? SO relatable. 😂
😂
This is really cool - I love the choice of clips and the way you spliced them together with the poignant music. I teared up towards the end! :)
thank you so much !!!!! :')
good editing but i wish that song wasn't so loud ,,,,
bagel dispenser thank you for the feedback !! just learning so I appreciate it a lot :)
I thought that that was the point. The emotions from the music act to overpower the scenes
I like it
@@Thedarkknight2244 true but then I couldn't hear much so I stopped watching entirely.
watching and listening to their conversations rlly reminds me of me and my mom, sometimes it is the EXACT thing she said like the manner and delivery😭
I am so happy I’m not the only one who’s experienced being frozen out by a parent. It evokes a really uniquely painful type of shame and desperation - this is the first time I’ve seen it portrayed anywhere.
If it was just one of my parents it would be fine this wouldn't hurt so much I just. Wish I had someone anyone I could talk to I'm so tired
Saoirse and Laurie's casting is beyond inspired. I remember watching Laurie as Roseanne's sister on "Roseanne" and I had no idea then that she had this huge volume of pain and venom within her ... characters.
Kids owe parents nothing, parents owe kids everything
I wish they’d understand
Nope, kids owe patents the same things they need to have in a society. Respect, kindness, empathy, decency, etc... Lady Bird and her mom's whole dynamic revolves around that neither are perfect and are struggling, but they still love each other deeply. It's a complex nuisanced depiction of 2 vocal, headstrong personalities.
Omg why is this me and my mom
are we all the same person w the same mom 🧐🧐
suan or smth its it exactly the same but very very relatable and close my mom is always angry at the wrong time
same i fight w her literally like everyday and she gets on my nerves like a lot but i still love her in the end
The instant shift from bickering to admiring something and then going back to bickering hits really close to home.
So am I the only mother of teens watching this and feeling things? I don't do a lot of the things the mother does here - I don't do the silent treatment, for example - but just the overall turbulence. That things can swing back and forth so suddenly over what seems like the smallest things sometimes. I love my kids so much, but parenting is not for wimps.
Also the music makes it so sad
:')
My mother and I went through a lot of shit together. A lot of problems. I helped her at her weakest but when I was diagnosed with depression, she helped but still shouted on me for staying in bed and not coming out. In the beginning she was helping but later she just got irritated in a minute. It made me feel so weak and sadder. Always told me that I am lazy but never saw that what she was going through earlier was the safe suffering I was going through then. Even today becuase of the old shit we fight but on the other side I love her a lot too. I know she does too. She hugs me a lot and hears to every problem I have but its just that she hears those problems and scolds me for overthinking and getting anxious over nothing. She never helps directly instead of pointing out my flaws. Our relationship is exactly like ladybird and her mother's. I love her but sometimes I just want her to show some more affection because of the big problems which made major changes in our life. Both of us are not mentally stable rn but I just want some more love and support. Maybe she is teaching me that in life I will not always be heard. Idk what she is proving with the silent treatment and constant flaw picking but I know that I love her a lot but at times hate her too.
my dad and I were watching the movie and we kinda kept staring at each other throughout the movie because my relationship with my mom is kinda like this and I really wanted the movie to end
I remember always being the one to apologize to my mom over our huge arguments even when it wasn’t my fault and didn’t do anything wrong. Then one time she said a bunch of really harsh things and told me “don’t bother apologizing either because blah blah” idk I try to shut it out. I still hate her so much because I love her still.
My mom is like that and I'm so glad I cut her out of my life. I do yearn for familial relationships but I think I'm better off not living in that emotional torture anymore.
My parents are both so emotionally stunted and petty, I realized if I was ever going to be happy I had to do whatever I could to not end up bitter and small and vindictive like them.
When I first watched Ladybird I didn't really understand why so many people had a strong emotional reaction to the movie. It's only later that I realised it was because I was raised by a ladybird myself. A mom who herself had a bad relationship with her mother and consequently raised her kids in a completely different way. It made me realise how lucky I was.
I actually cried. This is such a nice edit
thank you :’)
Honestly her mom is a bad mom. Like this is not the way to build up a confident person by constantly putting them down. I know it’s just her moms own insecurities but damn way to damage your kid
Haven't watched this film yet but 'Lady bird" 's frustration matches mine perfectly except my mom is'nt this physically warm but she tryed & still trying her best despite her narcissism which have my whole life & gave me hell & made me do crazy shit. She is way older now & been through lot's of family trauma as did myself & I just still wish she would ever come to grasp how much I love her despite my hatred of her actions against me & making me go through hell when I took care of my father dying of Alzheimer's all alone. life is hell but try to live it so your concious is as clear as possible ❤️
Marion was emotionally abusive.
Saoirse’s American accent is really good. Also, she sounds exactly like Lindsay Logan in the apology scene with her mom.
Toxic motherhood is way more common than you think.
Idk that did have a toxic relashionship but I think it was like acc a really hopeful and Inspring movie. I related to it in the way that your mom and you can really hurt each other, but only when your separate do you realize how much you love them. It’s like a level of love and forgiveness that I think we seldom reach in life except in these moments.
I’m blessed in that my mom and I have a much better relationship than Lady Bird and her mother. We still had disagreements but never to this level. The only time I had to deal with the “silent treatment” though was when I wanted to study abroad from college and I guess I was so far away that my mom felt like I was trying to escape from her or something. I think that’s the thing about mothers and daughters - you fight because you love each other so much.
But a scene that also got to me is when Lady Bird was arguing with her mom about putting her clothes away and her mother says, matter-of-factor, “my mother was a raging alcoholic” or something like that. Our parents are just trying to do their best. A lot of them come from their own troubled pasts. When we’re young we can’t recognize that. It was only when I grew up that I recognized the strength my parents possessed to break generational trauma and raise us in a different way than they had been raised. Love you mom ❤️
I loved this whole film, but I also loved that they chose actors of a realistic age to play the parents of a teenager. I just don’t think you can go wrong with a Greta Gerwing film in general 💕
Lady bird's mom was emotionally immature
My mom think this movie is so relatable like she doesn’t act 10x worse and is way more violent 💀
Real
Even if you got along with your mom most of the time, I think most daughters and maybe mothers can see themselves in many of these little moments. You still wanna kill each other sometimes lol.
"I want you to be the best version of yourself that you could be"
Cried.
:')
sending love to everybody else who relates to this film
I can only partially relate to the film because I wasn’t able to talk to my mom like the main character did to hers, and my mom is much worse than the mother here. I knew why my mom said she likes this movie because one day she told me to my face that she didn’t like me, minus the “I love you but” part lol
This movie triggers me so bad 😭
yeah i'm crying
It's sad how many people went through this with there mom its actually really sad to be treated like that
I actually found out about this movie on the internet couple of years ago and watched it immediately knowing that it would help me understand my mom
I love that Canon in D by Pachbel is being played in the background, it was used beautifully on Ordinary People.
This movie was painfully relatable, but it does gets better. People grow..... well in some cases😅
These comment are making me so sad. I have an amazing mom and my heart hurts for all the people who had to deal with a mother's toxicity.
I'm too scared to watch this movie because I know it will destroy me
There's hope for these kinds of mothers and daughters, in my opinion
“Where culture is, like New York” 😂
New York does have way more culture than some random town in the Midwest
I loved this movie. I appreciate the nice job you did assembling everything for this montage. I still cannot stand listening to Pachelbel's Canon. It has been used far too many times in the past 25 years for me to enjoy hearing it... yet again.
That woman is a fucking monster. Lady is deadass a good kid- I’m genuinely confused on what she did wrong??? This is why some people don’t deserve to have kids
If I had a mom like that, she’d be dead to me. I envy people that still love their parents despite them being terrible people-I’m cool on that shit 🤮🤦🏽♀️
Don't envy them. They're usually just fooling themselves and have low self worth.
all in all it’s a parent taking out their misery on someone who doesn’t deserve it. it’s all too common unfortunately
This reminds me of me and my dads relationships so much more than me and my moms. :/
the way her mother gives her the silence treatment when she finds out about college making her feel guilty about finally getting something she really wanted... it shouldn't be this relatable. I've been dealing with this since I was 7. some people won't understand the things that happen during childhood can really hurt you for a long time.
Luckily, for the most part my mom and I generally have a better relationship than this. That being said, the one scene I did relate to was "Why can't you just say the dress looks nice". My mom is more traditional, so I hated shopping with her because there was always something wrong with the clothes I liked because they weren't to her taste. Even as an adult I will hear "Is that long enough?" "Are you going to wear that?" I think a lot of girls can relate to that and it's frustrating.
My mother has never once held me while crying
I had a distant mom, she thrown all her anger against my dad and smaller brother. I did suffered seeing other people being abused.
I relate so much with apologizing to my mom for something I didn’t do or did nothing wrong.
i definitely see my mom in a lot of these but i could never get away with talking to my mom like that.
i hate the “they are both in the wrong” rhetoric. that is true. you know what is also true? one of them is an adult.
when i would get hurt and my mom would get mad she would insult me and ignored me or leave the room not talk to me or break my stuff really a great and fun childhood/teen years
Bawled my eyes out.. oh it hurts so bad
crying
I love Ladybird but I wish hollywood would produce a movie where high school students aren't witty, poised 25 year olds.
Well honestly... ladybird isn't that witty she just thinks she is
All my friends were like this...
I'm not sure if you're assessment is all together correct. Ladybird is incredibly flawed as a character, she isn't very poised either. She slouches a lot, constantly questions herself, and is breaking out. Saoirse Ronan said she was having a really bad acne breakout during filming and instead of covering it up, she wanted to show her pimples because she felt it accurately portrayed her experience growing up and most teenagers.
their dynamic was the best part of the movie
I’ve always thought this: girls grow up to not have an ego, because our mothers remove them. Maybe that’s a good thing, maybe not
just thinking about ladybird makes me cry so so so much it is SO fcking relatable
Someone told me the reason there’s a lot of mother daughter relationships like this is cuz the mother and the daughter are a lot alike, and the mother recognizes this first, trying to overcorrect so her daughter doesn’t make similar mistakes she did, but it doesn’t always come out right, if ever.