The Tree of LEGENDARY Pokemon - The Arceus Theory

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  • @royalhybrid4524
    @royalhybrid4524 11 місяців тому +603

    Archeus Life - Perfect Zygarde
    Archeus Light - Ultra Necrozma
    Archeus Chemical - Eternamax Eternatus
    Archeus Reflective - Terastal Terapagos

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  11 місяців тому +112

      Someone has been following along :')

    • @smashmaniac2008
      @smashmaniac2008 11 місяців тому +14

      I love this

    • @neobahumuth6
      @neobahumuth6 11 місяців тому +11

      ye seems to really fit

    • @ItsGalex
      @ItsGalex 11 місяців тому +7

      Terapagos final form is called Stellar in the Pokédex

    • @masonstewart6232
      @masonstewart6232 11 місяців тому +8

      @@ItsGalex Someone hasn't been following along

  • @treybrzezowski3259
    @treybrzezowski3259 11 місяців тому +319

    Side note for Carbink that Toby didn't Mention (Spoiler for the end of the Indigo Disk): Not counting the Wild Stellar Tera Pokemon, Carbink is one of only 2 Pokemon seen roaming around the Area Zero Underdepths, the other being Glimmet. It's clear that Carbink are drawn to places of massive/mystical energy.

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  11 місяців тому +38

      mmmhmm ^_^

    • @jonathanflanagan1504
      @jonathanflanagan1504 11 місяців тому +14

      Also, crystals. lol
      And you're not counting the wild stellar tera pokemon you encounter on your way down.

    • @treybrzezowski3259
      @treybrzezowski3259 11 місяців тому +23

      @@jonathanflanagan1504 I know, I said "Not counting the wild Stellar Tera Pokemon" before getting to my point about Carbink.

    • @ItsMeta__
      @ItsMeta__ 11 місяців тому +4

      You also fight a stellar noivern, garganacl, and something else I forgor

    • @maxspecs
      @maxspecs 11 місяців тому +3

      @@ItsMeta__There’s a Stellar Garchomp down there off the beaten story path, beating it opens up a room with a bunch of tera shards and a TM for Tera Blast.

  • @zacenzr4255
    @zacenzr4255 11 місяців тому +183

    Didn't see anyone else mention this yet, but the original Dragon does have a tree associated with it. In Black and White if you rank up the Intralink/dream zone multiplayer thing eventually a spiraling black and white tree will grow in the center of the area (so exact middle of Unova)

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  11 місяців тому +30

      Ohhhh trueeeee

    • @Magicwaterz
      @Magicwaterz 11 місяців тому +4

      I think the tree is called the Entree.

    • @ejokurirulezz
      @ejokurirulezz 11 місяців тому

      feature removed so not the case.

    • @limeslime711
      @limeslime711 10 місяців тому +1

      There’s also the white treehollow.

  • @Mystic-Aidan
    @Mystic-Aidan 11 місяців тому +281

    About Terapagos not being a dragon type, you forgot one specific detail: It’s a turtle. Turtles are reptiles, just like all the other dragons. It isn’t a dragon gameplay wise, but I’m fully willing to assume it’s biology is in line with the other dragon Pokémon.

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  11 місяців тому +43

      True too :D

    • @kopfloserbeginn3879
      @kopfloserbeginn3879 11 місяців тому +37

      Well considering that their type is normal unless it's Tera type is activated I would say terapagos one of the closest reflection of Arceus, just from a different angle.
      Especially with Arceus new plate in legends, after all our dear God isn't just a dragon type but also a normal type.
      Also love the Z-crystals on the stellar type, maybe terapagos has a hand in them

    • @kannan07
      @kannan07 11 місяців тому +17

      There's another thing that types aren't set in stone,they are products of human research
      Human research can have mistakes
      What am saying is
      Not ever normal type might be a normal type
      Specifically Arceus terapagos and silvally
      Silvally probably is just normal
      But I think arceus' actual "type" is just typeless or stellar

    • @Stinkoman87
      @Stinkoman87 11 місяців тому +17

      @@kannan07 There is precedence for type miscategorization - Many pokemon previously considered to be normal types were later revealed to actually be Fairy types.

    • @rossgordanier
      @rossgordanier 11 місяців тому +8

      ​@@Stinkoman87and some pokemon even have types added or switched as time goes on

  • @LoKoRecoNz
    @LoKoRecoNz 11 місяців тому +120

    For Kyruem, it’s the entra-link tree to represent the duality coming together which ties together dream mist

    • @TitusX17
      @TitusX17 11 місяців тому +3

      Yes! The Entree

    • @zurbglurb
      @zurbglurb 11 місяців тому

      White tree hollow?

    • @LoKoRecoNz
      @LoKoRecoNz 11 місяців тому +2

      @@zurbglurb in the middle of unova is the Entree it links multiple dimensions together to allow you to play with other characters (players) it was for connectivity between games but I feel could be explained to fit the theory. As you did entra missions the tree grew.

    • @zurbglurb
      @zurbglurb 11 місяців тому

      @@LoKoRecoNz yeah I know about that I’m just saying that it seems he forgot about the white tree hollow even though he mentioned alolas battle tree

    • @Lazu__li
      @Lazu__li 11 місяців тому

      ​@@zurbglurbThe white tree hollow is only in White and White 2 so he probably didn’t forget about and just decided to ignore it as it was probably not relevant

  • @wolfanos74
    @wolfanos74 11 місяців тому +26

    With Terapagos and terastal energy now here, I've had something of an idea. A pokemon, functionally, can be seen as five things; its evolutions, its moves, its design/form, its typing, and its stats. Zygarde, Necrozma, Eternatus, and Terapagos, and the phenomenon that come from them/they symbolise, each affect these.
    Mega Evolution - Zygarde - Evolution
    Z-Moves - Necrozma - Moves
    Dynamax/Gigantamax - Eternatus - Form/(Size)
    Terastallization - Terapagos - Typing
    And throughout each phenomenon we see a variety of ways they each affect stats, be it totem pokemon or similar, or special forms, dynamaxing affecting HP, and mega evolution does it a bit more directly. Combined, Zygarde, Necrozma, Eternatus, and Terapagos can affect the entirety of a pokemon. It would be pretty terrifying to see a pokemon using Mega Evolution, Z-Moves, Gigantamaxing, and Stellar Tera-type all at once. Sorry for the big comment.

  • @gustavju4686
    @gustavju4686 11 місяців тому +88

    Since Gen 6, I theorized Rayquaza and Zygarde in a way represent Heaven and Earth. The seal on the cave Groudon and Kyogre were sealed in released green energy as did the Cave of Origin. Green like Zygarde and Rayquaza. Rayquaza's orb in HgSs is called the Jade orb (although, a bit of a weak link as it's called the Green orb in Japanese while Groudon's is called the Crimson orb and Kyogre's is called the Indigo orb)

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  11 місяців тому +10

      Fun idea :D

    • @kannan07
      @kannan07 11 місяців тому +14

      Also zygarde is the protector and defender of earth as a whole,while rayquaza is the defender of earth from anything that comes from beyond earth,and also groudon and kyogee throwing a tantrum
      So it would make sense if zygarde played a part in sealing away primal groudon and kyogre

    • @rossgordanier
      @rossgordanier 11 місяців тому +6

      ​@@kannan07zygarde could even have summoned rayquaza to fight well it worked on the orbs. Could even have taken years. Long enough for the meteor to fall and Allow ray to mega evolve. Maybe it takes time to stop the origin forms and then a little longer to put both to sleep. Long enough that the fight becomes legend in honen

    • @evanparker6244
      @evanparker6244 11 місяців тому

      also notice the weather trio shinies I don't think rayquaza ever lost its primal form

    • @kannan07
      @kannan07 11 місяців тому +1

      @@evanparker6244 well,ya
      He was the guardian,there was no need for his true form to ever be sealed off

  • @CaylasCapsule
    @CaylasCapsule 11 місяців тому +30

    Thanks for the shoutout! 😊 I feel like Pokémon has been building this epic thing that might culminate in the next generation. I’m so hyped for where Pokémon is going, but I’m also so sad that there won’t be Bird Keeper Toby videos on it! Hopefully you’ll come be a guest on me and Dusty and everyone’s channels from time to time.

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  11 місяців тому +4

      Always, who knows what'll happen in the far future if I do ever return I'll have so much to tlak about if you havn't covered it all already haha

  • @itsturniptime3699
    @itsturniptime3699 11 місяців тому +62

    Here’s a thought with no basis whatsoever, Stonjourner’s ability is Power Spot which lets it radiate an ambiguous aura that bolsters the strength of nearby Pokémon. There’s your extremely loose Eternatus connection right there, big power auras.

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  11 місяців тому +22

      oh dang, Power spots are litirally the name of the areas the gytms are built over. I think you mgiht be onto something here

    • @itsturniptime3699
      @itsturniptime3699 11 місяців тому +6

      @@BirdKeeperToby oh yea, I forgot about that. Stonjourner is the secret to Dynamax the whole time

    • @aaronolson6736
      @aaronolson6736 11 місяців тому +5

      not to mention Turffield has the geoglyph yes but is also littered with megaliths all bearing runes similar to those found on Stonjourner

  • @Syiepherze
    @Syiepherze 11 місяців тому +24

    11:40 Stonjourner kind of works? Its ability is "Power Spot" which is the same name as the places in Galar that allow Pokémon to Dynamax, due to concentrations of Eternatus' Galar particles. Both the Ability and the Dynamax sites are called "Power Spot" (パワースポット) in Japanese too

    • @jacobfoxfires9647
      @jacobfoxfires9647 11 місяців тому +2

      Actually to add onto it, Stonjourner and the rest of Stonehenge that it's based on are actually rather important. As many believe they are religious sites. They are called Megaliths, and they have folklore relating to them that because they were built way before machines like wheels or lifts were invented, that they were thought to been built by GIANTS. Which is very important to the lore of dynamax since that deals a lot with giants.
      I got this info that is related to megaliths in a Shadow of the colossus video by Max Derrat. And it goes into the significance of these structures to the lore of those games. And it might also relate to Pokemon if we dig deep enough.

  • @DarkBreaker13
    @DarkBreaker13 11 місяців тому +25

    What if all the trees in each game are actually the thousand hands of Arceus reaching out to provide a link to each world and the world of the gods. Each tree baring a fruit of knowledge for each region they exist in, literally and figuratively. The fruits I'm referring to would be the mastery of each games gimmick.

  • @d00r9
    @d00r9 11 місяців тому +54

    Eternatus actually poisons a bunch of characters in the manga. Some poison residue even attaches to the rusted sword and shield after the fight on top of rose tower.

  • @hero9267
    @hero9267 11 місяців тому +65

    I know it's unlikely but I'd love to see another "It all comes together" styled mega theory with Toby and Lockstin again

  • @plantsoup6456
    @plantsoup6456 11 місяців тому +6

    These kinds of videos are incredibly fun because yea, Pokémon only rarely care about its lore (partially by design). As of Indigo Disk we have 3 unrelated alternate universe concepts: the mega/nonmega split, ultra space, and alternate timelines the paradoxes are from, for example. But theorizing is still fun because it’s all about thinking about Pokémon and analyzing it. The stuff about connections to alchemy and religion is not at all the kind of thought the developers put in but it’s still genuinely clever of the people that come up with it, and kinda cool.

  • @afanofstuff9123
    @afanofstuff9123 11 місяців тому +38

    9:57 a stone for zygarde could also be the zygarde cube a crystal hexagonal ball that stores up the zygarde cells you get it in sun and moon from the scientists from x and y

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  11 місяців тому +5

      Wow had forgotten aboutt hat too!

  • @iamnotmegan
    @iamnotmegan 11 місяців тому +9

    I think there's definitely something there with all the special trees we've been getting lately. Another facet of the tree theory that I haven't heard mentioned is that every single game, starting with Red and Blue, starts with a tree. Or, at least, a person named after a tree. Oak, Birch, Rowan, Juniper, Sycamore, Kukui, Clavell. All are trees. And they're all the first thing you see when you start a new save file, setting you up for your journey. The lore probably starts, way at the beginning, with a tree.

  • @gexill
    @gexill 11 місяців тому +13

    I believe Meltan/Melmetal are the link to Eternatus since you said Eternatus is the representation of Chemical in Archeus. I believe that since Meltan is the representation of mercury on the periodic table that might link it to the Chemical aspect of Eternatus.

  • @jaernihiltheus7817
    @jaernihiltheus7817 11 місяців тому +16

    Side note connecting kyruem together a bit more: in gen 5 there was an unused 3rd stone, that was likely meant for the cut pokemon gray (and/or the original dragon). The 3rd stone is called "the god stone"... so the original dragon is definitely meant to be part of this whole cosmological dragon-deity tree thing if that's anything to go by.

    • @shadow_wolf475
      @shadow_wolf475 11 місяців тому +2

      If Kyruem has a stone that we don’t know about, we might get the god stone by merging the stones of the trio. It also could just be the stone associated with Kyruem.

  • @Odog2002
    @Odog2002 11 місяців тому +13

    Something I noticed while playing Pokemon Scarlet is that Glimmora’s face looks a lot like the spikes that come out of Kyurem’s wings. It might be a coincidence, but it’s an interesting connection!

    • @jvbon646
      @jvbon646 11 місяців тому +1

      Those spikes (as well as the claws on his feet and arms) are also crystal-like

  • @spenserfarman3045
    @spenserfarman3045 11 місяців тому +6

    At first, I had actually been convinced that Glimmet and it’s evolved form Glimmora were some kind of byproduct of Terapagos trying to create a physical body for itself to take over and possibly find a way out of whatever pocket dimension that it was stuck in. I was even thinking that Geeta was some kind of avatar for Terapagos, since her looks take so much from her main Pokémon partner and the reason she puts so much work on the rest of the league and us is because it knows that it’ll be free of Area Zero soon. Even if Terapagos doesn’t actually care to do all of this technical stuff, it still wants someone to be able to watch over Paldea after it’s free from Area Zero and that’s why it implemented the champion level of students for both versions of the academy.

  • @typemasters2871
    @typemasters2871 11 місяців тому +26

    I do like how the past few generations have Pokemon that fit quite snuggly into this Archeus framework
    I even have my own “how do all the legendaries connect” and the Indigo Disk DLC could provide a possible explanation to certain legendaries or mythicals without any origins like Kubfu and Zeraora

  • @SoulSloth147
    @SoulSloth147 11 місяців тому +565

    I wouldn't be surprised if you're leaving UA-cam because you've been hired by Nintendo to make Pokemon lore.

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  11 місяців тому +116

      ahaha witht he way I tlak baout them at the end I'd be lucky hahah

    • @bapv2fr
      @bapv2fr 11 місяців тому +23

      @@BirdKeeperTobyid be laughing if I didnt know you were leaving I hope you have a great time next year

    • @Just_Cripsy
      @Just_Cripsy 11 місяців тому +4

      We have someone like him in Italy and he's also powerful

    • @AS-ri1mb
      @AS-ri1mb 11 місяців тому +2

      Why is he leaving??

    • @rossgordanier
      @rossgordanier 11 місяців тому +5

      ​@@AS-ri1mbpersonal reasons

  • @jgr7487
    @jgr7487 11 місяців тому +8

    If you count the Battle Tree in Alola, we can also count the massive White Tree of Unova. & Black City does look somewhat like what Ultra Megalopolis would be it it weren't just an aisle.

    • @ejokurirulezz
      @ejokurirulezz 11 місяців тому +2

      or the tree is destroyed by kyuurem crash landing and creating a giant chasm in its place.

  • @KuroBlitz
    @KuroBlitz 11 місяців тому +7

    Eduardo's study on the Kaballah has been going on for years now. Glad to see his own work/research recognized.
    I feel like when it comes to Unova you could perhaps have the "Entree Forest" where you meet Dream World mons.

  • @MyHeroLucille
    @MyHeroLucille 11 місяців тому +3

    The other day I was thinking about this theory how gen 5 dragons represent energy. Fire/Electricity are constant/active, Ice represents static. So from this, I theorized the original dragon will be Water to reperesent the flow of energy.

  • @gabriellockwood2780
    @gabriellockwood2780 11 місяців тому +10

    Not to be that person, but we HAD a Type gimmick in Gen 5 that was left behind almost immediately...
    To which we see a near similar gimmick in the Stellar Tera Type.
    5 - Type GEMS (???)
    6 - Mega Stones (Powered-up Evo Stones)
    7 - Z Crystals (Shards of Necrozma's Light)
    8 - Wishing Stars (Pieces of Eternatus)
    9 - Tera Crystals (Terapagos manifested)
    *BW REMAKES: Type Gems = ORIGINAL DRAGON???*

    • @gabriellockwood2780
      @gabriellockwood2780 11 місяців тому +1

      Type Gems = STAB Gem Bonus (1.5x?)
      Stellar Tera = 1.5x Bonus STAB for all 18 Types; once per Types.
      (If you have Moves of 4 Types, you basically get 4 Type Gems and a Held Item--vs only 1 Type Gem and you sacrifice your Item Slot.)
      Unburden Flying Gem Acrobatics combo
      Contrary + Stellar Tera Beam Serperior/Malamar

  • @syaefullrizcky
    @syaefullrizcky 11 місяців тому +5

    7:40
    1. Zygarde need to absorb cell which is "life"
    2. Necrozma need to absord sun and/or moon "light"
    3. Eternatus need to absorb dynamax energy we know your starter pokemon need to eat some special food from dlc to be gigantamax so i think this dynamax energy is some kind of "chemical"
    4. Terapagos need to absorb terastal energy, terastal is crystal that can change or "reflect" pokemon type

  • @djosmi5083
    @djosmi5083 11 місяців тому +10

    Dialga represent the solid state of matter.
    Palkia represent the liquid state of matter.
    Giratina represent the gas state of matter.
    But there's a fourth state that is unknown to a lot of people: plasma.
    The Original dragon represent plasma, as it's a fusion of Reshiram and Zekrom, Fire and Electricity, Energy.

  • @royalhybrid4524
    @royalhybrid4524 11 місяців тому +2

    So greek mythology.
    The 6 Male Titans before Zeus
    Cronus - Dialga - Of Time
    Oceanus - Palkia - Of Space
    Hyperion - Ultra Necrozma - Of Heavenly Light
    Iapetus - Perfect Zygarde - Of Mortality
    Coeus - Eternamax Eternatus - Of Intelligence
    Crius - Stellar Terapagos - Of Constellations
    It works surprisingly well, they all also come from the sky being children of Gaia (Earth) and Uranus (Sky).
    Only to rule both after overthrowing Uranus, being the ruler of existence at the time.
    There's not really a story here or any potential to predict new pokemon, it's just fun to notice

  • @michaelsingh8487
    @michaelsingh8487 11 місяців тому +4

    Most likely the stone for gen 5 would be the elemental gems. They give a boost in power to a move of the same type, and they're in Unova, a region implied to have a remake soon.

    • @aaronolson6736
      @aaronolson6736 11 місяців тому

      Yeah its definitely possible they make a connection between Terapagos and whatever was actually going on in Unova

  • @jonathanflanagan1504
    @jonathanflanagan1504 11 місяців тому +5

    One thing to note is that Mega Evolution is actually an unnatural perversion of Life energy. Mega stones seemingly didn't exist until the end of the war when AZ fired the Ultimate Weapon, which was powered by the life energy of dozens of pokemon. The excess energy infused stones in space, which later fell on Hoenn(unless Rayquaza ate them first), and then stones around Kalos, all of which became mega stones.
    That's why the mega evolution dex entries in gen 7 are often horrific, when a pokemon is unable to handle the transformation, they lose control of themselves and go berserk (As seen with Korina's initial attempts to mega evolve her Lucario in the XY anime).
    Mega Evolution is an unnatural perversion of Life energy in a way that the other energies, Z-power, Dynamax Energy, Terastal Energy, are not.
    Wild pokemon infused with Z-power over time become totem pokemon, stronger but still themselves, and if infused with a lot at once, they fire off a single Z-move and are back to normal immediately aside from maybe fatigue.
    Wild pokemon infused with Dynamax energy can still lose control, but that's when they dynamax suddenly, out in the open, and without warning (they probably just don't know how to handle being kaiju-sized all-of-the-sudden). Otherwise they just hangout in their raid dens waiting for trainers to challenge them.
    Wild Terastal pokemon (that aren't hanging out in raid dens like dynamax) are just there. They hangout seemingly unchanged aside from the glowy aura and act no differently from non-tera counterparts. They're simply stronger than the pokemon around them and terastalize immediately when entering battle.
    The only confirmed wild pokemon to have mega evolved in game lore is Rayquaza, the first mega evolution in history, powered by the fervent wishes of Hoenn's people that Rayquaza gain the strength to defeat Primal Kyogre and Groudon once and for all.

    • @nochancewithoutpasta7637
      @nochancewithoutpasta7637 11 місяців тому +1

      It's not a perversion, it's what happens when there's too much power in one Pokemon. Ie, Infinite Energy. With no 'human energy' (Key Stones are crystallized people) to balance it out, it can lead to a rampage, but that's not necessarily outside of Arceus' plan. Remember the noble lords were infused with suspicious gold lightning that conveniently helped prepare his time traveler to face Volo, and made them berserk with power in the process. Also I think it was Prof Cozmo who said that Infinity Energy and 'human energy' together (Spiral Power?) create the reaction that causes Mega Evolution. This is why we don't see it in the wild, with only two exceptions.
      Mewtwo mega evolved on its own, multiple times, on its own power. Now this could be because its creators had a better setup than Giovanni's attempt, but it does imply mastering Infinity Energy is possible. If you're brokenly OP and probably have some human DNA spliced together with Mew. That 'human energy' is allowing Mewtwo to ascend to a higher form, and I'm guessing its massive intellect is what keeps it from rampaging. Also, Mew is the DNA pokemon, the literal building blocks of life.
      Perhaps life energy wasn't meant to be used naturally on Pokemon, or perhaps Arceus made it manageable in conjunction with 'human energy' for a reason. All the alleged negative side effects (that we never see outside Rotom Dex's entries) seem to be held in check by the feels they have with their trainer. I doubt that it's coincidence that Mega Evolution requires a strong bond.

  • @gustavju4686
    @gustavju4686 11 місяців тому +7

    Toby: Channels the life energy that it is the master of.
    Xerneas: That's my domain! I'm life!

    • @jonathanflanagan1504
      @jonathanflanagan1504 11 місяців тому +5

      Xerneas could be seen as positive life energy, being something that bestows life. Yveltal reprisents negative life energy or death, being something that takes life.
      Zygarde keeps the two in check with his Aura Break ability, making him by-proxy, a master of life, death, and their energy.

    • @pizzzaeater1425
      @pizzzaeater1425 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@jonathanflanagan1504i second this idea

    • @gustavju4686
      @gustavju4686 11 місяців тому +2

      @@jonathanflanagan1504 Yeah, I was trolling xD. Zygarde is partially based on the Gaia Theory (Earth self regulates). See it as the guardian of the cycle of life. Xerneas making too much life/making things live forever can lead to disaster as Earth's resources are finite. Yvetal killing everything around it is bad for obvious reasons.

  • @therevolutionary5148
    @therevolutionary5148 11 місяців тому +2

    Still remember being excited for the next video from Toby and Lockstin on their unified theory of Pokemon before the release of sun and moon back when I was in 9th grade
    Now I'm in my masters but these continue to be fun
    Also the fact that it could also just be Pokemon being random is also part of what makes this fun isn't it?

  • @DoylePrime
    @DoylePrime 11 місяців тому +2

    Honestly I think Dratini would be a great example of a carbin/minior/etc. counterpart for Dragon Energy as it has crystallized dragon energy in its forehead. It also loses this crystal when it becomes a fully realized dragon in Dragonite. (maybe historically, like in a legends game, it could have been a water type or normal type that gained the dragon tying from a legends-style event?)

  • @MySuperiorOverlord
    @MySuperiorOverlord 11 місяців тому +11

    Thank you for all of your amazing theories over the years. Your passion for Pokemon got me back into the franchise all those years ago. You inspired to become a theorist and Pokemon Master in my own right. If this really is the last big theory, it's a banger to go out on.
    PS: This may just be copium from someone who wanted the Creation Trio and mostly Arceus to get Megas/Primals in Legends but I think that if this theory is correct, then it would make more sense for Game Freak to hold off on giving Arceus its full power until it all comes together. Fingers crossed and thanks again Toby. Wishing you all the best going forward.

  • @GiubileiFernando
    @GiubileiFernando 11 місяців тому +3

    The original dragon represents both positive and negative energy. So it's the embodiment of all energy. That IMO makes it deserving of being an equal to Palkia and Dialga.

  • @sir.jinzu9426
    @sir.jinzu9426 11 місяців тому +2

    I think X and Y has to do more with DNA alteration than anything else because everytime you mega evolve the dna symbol appears, which some pokemon had thier dna altered with the introduction of fairy type. Also nobody seems to mention that the cry of Terapagos sounds similar to the sound emited when you teratalize your Pokémon

  • @Kanamo4781
    @Kanamo4781 11 місяців тому +1

    For gen 5 tree, there is the White Forest as well as the Entree, while the white forest is a bit of a stretch, the Entree connects quite well actually

  • @zilness
    @zilness 11 місяців тому +8

    This is the quality rambling I subscribed for. Love this style of video honestly

  • @Aluran
    @Aluran 11 місяців тому +15

    Arceus stella plate please

    • @smashmaniac2008
      @smashmaniac2008 11 місяців тому +4

      Watch that be what the Legend Plate is

  • @owenweatherbie9938
    @owenweatherbie9938 11 місяців тому +1

    I do like the Stonjourner connection. It's a rock-y (cyrstal-ish) pokémon, and its ability is Power Spot, which is ALSO what the game calls areas where you can dynamax.

  • @Nmoment-uv6jc
    @Nmoment-uv6jc 11 місяців тому +2

    Azelf, Uxie and Mestrip were created before the universe, they helped creating it with dialga and palkia, according to sinnoh mythos and arceus's plates texts.
    They are an important essence in the universe, they can control dialga and palkia if needed

    • @amithist4455
      @amithist4455 11 місяців тому

      Yeah the three of them have the power to subdue one of the two creation dragons. Giratina has the power to take both on

  • @ilexontrooper9688
    @ilexontrooper9688 11 місяців тому +3

    If these last 4 gens have really been intended to be representations of the elements of Archeus, I am incredibly excited for what they're going to do in gen 10! Maybe they'll wrap up this "saga" in whatever black/white remake/legends/etc game they do next? Maybe legends Arceus was intended to be the link? Maybe gen 10 will have them all come together? No matter what I'm excited! Even if this theory is somehow made of coincidences, gen 10 is still a big milestone for Pokemon and will likely line up with their 30th Anniversary! Meaning it is likely they'll do something special for it!

  • @Shngster
    @Shngster 11 місяців тому +1

    I had heard this story during gen 8. When they accurately predicted Terastal energy and terapagos I was shocked that there was a wide mythos

  • @aceofaces0007
    @aceofaces0007 11 місяців тому +1

    Something else in support of Eternatus being the "Chemical" aspect. Certain Pokemon can be given the Gigantamax factor via Max Soups, which could broadly be construed as a chemical mixture.

  • @ItsMeta__
    @ItsMeta__ 11 місяців тому +2

    Arceus - Gen 4
    Kyurem - Gen 5
    Zygarde - Gen 6
    Necrozma - Gen 7
    Eternatus - Gen 8
    Terapagos - Gen 9
    I wonder if now we have all 4 beings of Archeus, gen 10 pulls it all together

  • @fernandocuauhshihuacarbaja3094
    @fernandocuauhshihuacarbaja3094 11 місяців тому +4

    If the Sephirot would be used to explain the Lore of Pokemon it could be interesting. What I know is that it represents 10 elements that together make a 11th element that represents "God".
    Most of the Sephirot info I know comes from Digimon Frontier so here is how they used it to get an idea: there once were 10 ancient digimon warriors that fought against one of the 7 demon lords, the strongest one, Lucemon. Then in the story he revived and they had to reise up once again to fight him.
    Each warrior represents a different element that would be part of the Sephirot: Fire, Wind, Snow, Thunder, Light, Earth, Wood, Water, Metal and Darkness. Then, in some part of the story, the Ten Legendary Warriors can fuse into one entity to form a new element known as "Heavenly", representing a God (in this case they used Susanoo for the God).
    So if the Sephirot is wanted to be used in a similar manner to explain the Pokemon Lore, Arceus would be the "Heavenly" 11th element, and there would have to be other 10 element legendary pokemon that are "fragments" or parts of his being.
    I don't know if Dialga, Palkia and Giratina, would count also count a this parts, or if they also would fall into this position of "Heavenly" like Arceus since they also seem to be deities concepts unlike other legendary Pokemon that seem more physical. But it would be interesting to see which 10 legendary (dragon?) pokemon make this Sephirot.

    • @Plaugus_Screenz
      @Plaugus_Screenz 11 місяців тому +2

      I know the Hebrew tree of life from Prodject moons lobotomy corp and library of ruinia but I also know it exists with it's evil counterpart the tree of death.eavh of the nodes represents a diferant concepts and ideals and map onto the human body and usually are correlated to diferant devine entities like specific individual angels but this is a rusty memory of a interpretation of PM's first game and characters (directly named after the sephirots) which are pms interpretation of the kabalistic tree of life. Pm the game makers are south Korean people who are massive Classical Lit nerds and use literature as sources of stuff to use and the stuff is very good in my opinion.but the characters map very well with the kabalistic sephirots and the inverse the reverb ensemble also fit the tree of death.

    • @Plaugus_Screenz
      @Plaugus_Screenz 11 місяців тому +2

      And just as a crack shot idea the sephirots of this potential pokemon theory could fit with the generations just as a idea start from the botem of the tree make connections between the ideas and themes of game with the tree if any and move up the lower sections would probably be less connected and more would be coincidental if anything if it even fits well

    • @Plaugus_Screenz
      @Plaugus_Screenz 11 місяців тому

      Here is me drudging up some bits that I vaguely remember of the nodes of a roughly summarization of it by w dude who isnt a scholar of said subject because understanding the field of kabalistic text is like philosophy so the info I got was surface level and this is rough info half remembered so be warned to take a grain of salt.
      the lowest node malkith represents the highest point in the physical realm which is represented by the ideal king/ruler and maps onto the feet Yesod is I think something to do with learning and knowledge and is less physical and maps onto the genitals then the nest two are hod and netzack one I believe is something like humility essentially and the other victory and represents the left and right legs Tiphereth is the beauty of the natural world or smth and maps onto the heart then gebera and chessed which are justice/power and compassion and map on left and right arms then Binah is essential wisdom/philosophy maps on one of the eyes then hockma is knowledge and the outher eye then kether which is the crown basically completeness, realization or something of the sort basically enlightenment because it is the highest or smth

  • @Frogboyaidan
    @Frogboyaidan 11 місяців тому +4

    For kyreum it could be the white tree / black Tower

  • @Magicwaterz
    @Magicwaterz 11 місяців тому

    Stonjourner still works here because its ability is called Power Spot, and you know what else is called a Power Spot, Dynamax Dens where Raid Battles are enabled.
    And about the tree for the Kyurem part, there's the Entree only accessed by the Entralink.

  • @chronic_daydreamer
    @chronic_daydreamer 11 місяців тому +2

    Kyurem and the Tao Trio represents the Mind as opposed to the Matter of Dialga and Palkia, actually.

  • @Chaomlin
    @Chaomlin 11 місяців тому +3

    not the beat drop with the area zero music when you said archeus theory at the beginning

  • @shaynanicole9415
    @shaynanicole9415 11 місяців тому

    Something I noticed when Terapagos first cried is it's cry is the sound that a Pokemon makes when they turn into a Tera form. Just a small thing I noticed to link that maybe Terapagos is always with a Pokemon when it tera forms.

  • @DZdz1290
    @DZdz1290 11 місяців тому +1

    i love how the recent 3rd legendaries always have ties to arceus

  • @sylviefay6110
    @sylviefay6110 11 місяців тому +1

    I've loved this theory since I first heard it right here on this very channel. I even built a dragon type pokemon gym team around the idea. alolan exeggutor to represent life, mega ampharos for light, dragalge for chemical, and duraludon or archaludon representing reflection, then a dragon memory silvally as my ace representing the archeus/arceus

  • @ElliesElectricGym
    @ElliesElectricGym 11 місяців тому

    i’m working on a script for a video updating my theories about fallers, and i just finished the indigo disk story this morning, where i noticed a couple subtle new nods to faller phenomena.
    i’m also very focused on hoenn, watching the advance anime, and brainstorming fanfic for an emerald sequel that delves further into my thoughts about how the neighboring mega and nonmega timelines are connected.
    i could go on at length about this but uh maybe i should just participate on the discord. suffice to say, toby, you’ve been deeply influential, so thanks.

  • @douglaspope-gz1eq
    @douglaspope-gz1eq 11 місяців тому +6

    This is my favorite theory on this channel while I am sad that this is the last theory video of this channel i do understand why this is happening and i hope that you bird keeper Toby have a great life after this year i never thought that this day would come but for old times sake and for the last time "so long pokémon masters" 😭😭😭

  • @lostfelinepiesh6917
    @lostfelinepiesh6917 11 місяців тому +2

    What about Rolycoly for Galar's "rock"? As a coal Pokemon I feel like it ties better to a "chemical" theme, given the issues with pollution when talking about coal based technology. It also ties into the fact that Rose summoned Eternatus to harness it for energy, where Eternatus would represent something like futuristic "space energy" and Rolycoly represents past energy technology, like fossil fuels.

  • @AltairTheGamer
    @AltairTheGamer 11 місяців тому +1

    Okay, I have a small head canon.
    Basically, it goes like this: Arceus created four dragons - Dialga, Palkia, Giratina and the Original Dragon, to create and rule the time, space and antimatter, as well as the one who will balance them all.

    • @aahhhhhhhhhhhhh
      @aahhhhhhhhhhhhh 11 місяців тому +1

      damn the original dragon fell off 😂 went from equalizer of the universe to soulless frozen chicken

  • @Cool-Vest
    @Cool-Vest 11 місяців тому +6

    Just because Pokemon is bad at telling large series-wide stories doesn't mean we can't glean some meaning out of all of it.

    • @kannan07
      @kannan07 11 місяців тому

      It's a shame how much of a wasted potential Pokemon has

  • @deleted8490
    @deleted8490 11 місяців тому +1

    Maybe Hydrapple represents
    1. Creation (including Space and Time)
    2. Life
    3. Light
    4. Dragon
    5. Chemical
    6. Reflective
    7. Weather
    Though it could represent dragon through type and not heads and then 4 could be something we haven't thought of yet or something not revealed yet.
    Also, Ho-Oh and Lugia could be smaller parts of something larger, like Ho-Oh would be a smaller part of life and Lugia a smaller part of weather.

  • @harutakami1313
    @harutakami1313 11 місяців тому +2

    It's worth noting that Z-Moves, Dynamax/Gigantamax, and Terrastalization all deal with light energy. Z-Moves pull from the ambient Light Energy that Necrozma released into the world, Dynamax/Gigantamax creates a hard-light construct around the pokemon, which is what makes it appear so big or look different, and Terrastal forms are also hard-light energy. Mega Evolution... that's something different. Though it is interesting that Mega Stones, Shining Stones, Wishing Stones, and Terra Orbs all arrived in the pokemon world via metorites.
    Also just remembered this: But Totem Pokemon are basically just modern day Alpha Pokemon. They're both pokemon infused with an otherworldly light. Totem Pokemon from Necrozma, and Alphas from Arceus. It could even be that Ultra Necrozma is a UB version of Arceus in some regard, like Zygarde and Guzzlord.

    • @jvbon646
      @jvbon646 11 місяців тому

      DMax was a warping of time-space to make a projection or something like that based on what they explained

  • @kuka2378
    @kuka2378 Місяць тому

    6:12 When i was playing pokémon Scarlet, i saw some gems in the director's office in the part that belonged to Sada

  • @royalhybrid4524
    @royalhybrid4524 11 місяців тому +3

    Good luck with your break man, your work will always be apart of my childhood.
    Also it's possible that this over arching story was originally being told unconsciously.
    Afterall alot of myth has similar themes and stories as others. The pokemon as a result not intentionally being connected but the myth and themes making them inheritantly so.
    Only for the team to look at what they have already done and see how they can build upon that.
    Rainbow rocket, shaymin's weird name, daiancey's clock tower and Zygarde connections all (to me) clearly intentional.
    The Archeus connection could be said to be intentional retroactively in a clever move.
    And the Hydapple speculation i'm convinced is purley accidental.
    I just hope gamefreak is botg creative & observant enough to have all this build up pay-off by the next gen 1 remake.
    1.Primordial Chaos -
    Origin of Azothoth
    Potential - Monad- Beta Arceus - God - The original one
    1 Beta. Infinity Energy - Archeus
    Archeus Life - Perfect Zygarde
    Archeus Light - Ultra Necrozma
    Archeus Chemical - Eternamax Eternatus
    Archeus Reflective - Stellar Terapagos
    2. Order God
    Cosmos King - Arceus - Phanes - Nameless Deity
    2b. Aspects
    Time - Chronus - Destiny - Annanke - Dialga
    Space - Nut - Primordial Oceanus - Palkia
    Entropy - Chaos - Opposites - Noxus - Giratina
    Like I said, enjoy your break Toby!

  • @MrKodystorm
    @MrKodystorm 11 місяців тому

    Ok so theory on the game as a whole.
    So 1. Arceus creates terapalagos and not just one but multiple. These fly thru space and support creation of the universe as a whole.
    2. At some point terapalagos is hunted down to a mere handful and escape by forming a comet like meteor that land on Paldea creating area zero.
    3. Time passes. And the king of paldea goes broke and dies trying to find what he saw land at the crater.
    4. Before his death his currupt ways spawned the first evolution of hydraple. Thus creating a form of curse on the king when he accepted the 4 artifacts from the trader and created the 4 evil sudo legends.
    5. The people seal off the 4 evils, while in kitakami the ogre defeats the last 3 of the 7 evils unleashed by one of the invader like Pokémon hunting the turtle.
    6. The war happens, Kato’s end’s up getting a sample of terapalagos but due to the passing of the Pokémon itself the gem’s energy is then crystallized into the crystals outside of kalos where mega evolutions are created. ( boosts in form and ability’s to push further)
    7.time passes. Events with profesor happen as game tells us.
    8.the event at the lake happens creating the loop. This sending an energy reading out to space.
    9.Events in kitakami take place waking up the invader peacharunt and the doc takes place.
    10. The invaders become aware of terapalagos.
    And now come and try and capture the last remnant of his power. This supported by deoxy’s being in game but not catachable. (Deoxys would have been like venom from the marvel comics, a spy looking for the source of energy).
    11. Events in sword and shield crown thundra happen at a similar time pace where the ultra beasts start appearing again due to the energies emitted by the invader general eternatus.
    12. 4th dlc maybe that could go into the mystery of space Pokémon and why Pokémon like deoxy’s or eternatus, or maybe even a unknow Pokémon intel’s might be hunting down the last terapalagos.
    Notes: think about how the crater was formed. How terapalagos is male, and how he is clearly hiding from something.
    The ultra beast exist outside of time and space, so naturally if terapalagos was maybe once floating thru space (Stephen king reference) and landed on earth to hide from the Pokémon version of IT (peacharunt)
    Or some outside force, crashes into paldea. Starts the great Pokémon war over the fine reasorce, and due to the distinct energy signature stems things like MEGA evolutions or master balls.
    Think how in his yo in the past people were terrified of Pokémon and nothing was really known about them. They could have been regular animals and bugs that evolved and transformed into Pokémon as a whole from this impact and source of cosmic/stellar energy giving birth to types and elements within Pokémon.
    And Pokémon like mew started appearing first due to the concentrated amount of terradtal energy that was available for them to absorb. Pokémon like celebi even took some features from this all giving turtle.
    And Pokémon like ho-oh and Lucia where given abilities that could affect the natural environment or Pokémon.
    Think on how arceus and terapalagos are both normal exclusive legendary and the only two in the entire Dex that have so far affected/altered/influenced the main characters own timeline.
    Anyways hope you enjoy this. Felt like I was cooking something here but I could be completely wrong. Anyways enjoy the theory!

  • @L337P1R4735
    @L337P1R4735 11 місяців тому +3

    Great job Toby! Im going to miss your videos but I want you to have a good time. Ive enjoyed your videos for years and you have always seemed like a wonderful guy.

  • @galaxyplatinum5533
    @galaxyplatinum5533 11 місяців тому +1

    Lockstin's reset theory was one of the first videos I watched on UA-cam. It's so cool to see something similar!

  • @convalaria
    @convalaria 11 місяців тому +2

    I might be wrong, but i believe eternatus is partly based on pollution, hence the poison type
    also the reasoning for its skeletal look

  • @lightningstriker8884
    @lightningstriker8884 11 місяців тому +2

    Actually ground is the segments of the earth, rock is the coliseum

  • @sheshells_
    @sheshells_ 10 місяців тому

    For the Eternatus question, we learned in the Crown Tundra's dynamax adventures that dynamaxing is in part caused by "Galar particles," heavily implied to have been discovered by Professor Magnolia and a team of scientists (of whom the head researcher on dynamax adventures is implied to be a former Aether employee). These particles are the glowing effect we see around dynamax pokemon (besides Deer Rabbit Goat Calyrex over there)

  • @verylostdoommarauder
    @verylostdoommarauder 11 місяців тому +1

    How I think about the "All of this could just be nonsense" idea is that fan theories are just an alternative to fan fiction. It's fans of media getting enjoyment out of adding more content to a piece of media they like, except there is a lot more analyzing and interpreting involved.

  • @nochancewithoutpasta7637
    @nochancewithoutpasta7637 11 місяців тому +2

    Pretty sure Perfect Kyurem's tree would be the Entree in Entral Park. It's black and white and in a helix spiral. Seems important.

  • @Katelizaj
    @Katelizaj 11 місяців тому +1

    I will miss your theories Toby

  • @thezapman1936
    @thezapman1936 11 місяців тому

    One thing to mention about Rayquaza is that it is the master of all elements or in a sense natural disasters or phenomon with Air Lock which disables all weather effects and its overall sky motif can be related to divinity

  • @_Banjo_
    @_Banjo_ 11 місяців тому +1

    Toby: "this could all be nonsense"
    Way to sign off one of your final videos. Haha love it

  • @helyscollection4797
    @helyscollection4797 11 місяців тому

    Man, it's been a while I've seen a Pokémon Theory of this level, I will miss your theories a lot. But I wish you nothing but the best Toby

  • @pabs356
    @pabs356 10 місяців тому

    Ok, I've believed in this theory for a long time, I heard it like two years ago on a spanish channel, and you know what? What other perfect time to not only confirm the theory and expand the lore, but to also give people what they want and get more money, than Pokémon Kyurem: The Tree of the Beginning (I just made that name up and probably won't be the actual name but it's giving me the literal chills)

  • @mosbeast1playz245
    @mosbeast1playz245 9 місяців тому +1

    Funny how life light chemical and reflective are all pokemon that control main game mechanics. Zygarde literally shoots beams of mega energy in the show, nekrozma’s light is the thing that created Alola and with it Z-moves, eturnatus shoots Gigantamax beams and terrapagos is the main source of teristalization

  • @ianfairbanks1318
    @ianfairbanks1318 11 місяців тому +2

    Theory starter: "I wonder what Eternatus looked like with skin?"

  • @yy-gs6rw
    @yy-gs6rw 11 місяців тому +1

    Toby your presence from the Pokémon lore community will be deeply missed 🌟

  • @Gochen86
    @Gochen86 11 місяців тому

    There is something to keep in mind, Toby. A line from Ian Fleming, specifically from 'Goldfinger'. "Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence. Thrice is enemy action." There's a variation of that I've been hearing in various places over the years that I believe holds true with the entire Pokemon Cosmology this theory looks at.
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Thrice is a pattern. Four times or more is explicit planning."

  • @zerconic
    @zerconic 10 місяців тому +1

    The amount of people who don't understand Giratina is kind of astounding. It's in the name of the place you find it in, the distortion world. The world plays with GRAVITY, having platforms everywhere that have their own GRAVITY. You know what distorts Time and Space?---- GRAVITY.
    Giratina is the Master of Distortion, AKA GRAVITY. I mean his origin form even doubles down on this being able to move freely in a space where gravity is distorted. Like c'mon. Stop butchering my boy, give him credit.

  • @TheSpektrum1989
    @TheSpektrum1989 11 місяців тому +1

    whenever Generation 10 happens, they're gonna have their hands full following up on all of this and perhaps giving us the definitive answer.

  • @Olliewooood
    @Olliewooood 11 місяців тому +3

    Alright, crackhead theory (maybe), but next year’s the year of the dragon. I’m not saying it’s more than a coincidence, but if we get black and white stuff next year, then I’m just saying.

  • @yuliybekutadaten-shi8294
    @yuliybekutadaten-shi8294 11 місяців тому

    i’m getting lockstin/gnoggin(and birdkeeper toby himself)’s the end of pokémon theory 15 part series from years ago while everyone was waiting for sun and moon vibes with this video

  • @EliteTrainerKenway
    @EliteTrainerKenway 11 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely incredible video! Ive been following this theory for a while now and I hope it is brought to fruition in gen 10!

  • @MaoSeraphine
    @MaoSeraphine 11 місяців тому +1

    I think Terapagos is not part of the archeus theory taking into account Terapagos is not a one of a kind pokemon, it's just an common ancient pokemon thought to be extinct, Terapagoses even have a 50% gender ratio. So if Terapagos is the Carbink to a bigger tera energy dragon type, then the archeus theory could still be alive.
    With the Stellar crown is confirmed that the little eyes in every crown are Terapago's eyes, or are they? cause even Stellar form Terapagos has a little terapagos crown, maybe someone else than Terapagoses are watching through thouse eyes.

  • @snailgate2172
    @snailgate2172 11 місяців тому

    You're onto something with Stonjourner, its ability Power Spot is also the name for places where one can Dynamax or Gigantamax in game.

  • @sylviefay6110
    @sylviefay6110 11 місяців тому +1

    okay so arceus creates the pokemon world. and then it creates the original dragon, not as a part of the creation deities, but as a generator. the original dragon represented energy, pure raw energy- draconic energy- and was probably crystalline in some way since we know from regidrago's dex entry that dragon energy was once crystallized. it eventually split apart into reshiram, the fire type with a flame-spitting jet engine on its tail representing heat energy; and zekrom, electric type, with a lightning-spouting dynamo on its tail, representing electrical energy. and when fused, heat and electricity become (team) plasma. the third, the shell left behind by this splitting, is the ice type kyurem, representing a void absent of energy. absolute zero, the temperature at which particles are so devoid of energy they cease all motion. side note, while reshiram and zekrom have generators in their tails, kyurem's wings are plugs like the prongs you'd stick into a wall outlet.
    with the original dragon acting as an energy source the creation trio were made with the dragon type, as were the 4 pieces arceus split its power into, its 4 ethers.
    when the original dragon split apart it didn't split evenly. kyurem isn't the complete shell left over, it lost other fragments of crystallized dragon energy. fragments that got picked up by regigigas and used in the building of a new titan, regidrago

  • @jonarhax3388
    @jonarhax3388 10 місяців тому

    I saw a theory that the original dragon was a member of the creation trio cus the creation trio are themed after forms of matter like liquid for palkia, solid for dialga, and gas for giratina, which leaves the original dragon as plasma (idk the exact science but apparently the unova trio's typings of fire ice and electric have things to do with plasma)

  • @TheFallGrind
    @TheFallGrind 10 місяців тому

    The Noble Pokemon represent Arceus in a funny way. They are the life that reflects Arceus' light and through that, they go through what could be seen as a chemical change, leading to their enlarged size and the glow that they exude.

  • @allhailme8457
    @allhailme8457 11 місяців тому +1

    There are other big magic trees in the games. There's the Entree in the Entra Link and the Tree of Dreams from the Dreamworld both are from Gen 6.

  • @DracoThePyromancer
    @DracoThePyromancer 11 місяців тому +1

    The live action movie had giant pokemon in it too. Like huge man

  • @coolkid44447
    @coolkid44447 10 місяців тому

    I haven't seen anyone mention this about Eternatus but Chemical fits perfectly because it came from space and infected the lands with pieces of itself which the exuding energy allows Pokemon to change drastically in size and even to some extent manipulates there DNA drastically further with each growth in the forms of Gigantamax, Eternatus' energy is so wide spread throughout the Galar region even the flora have been affected in the form of the Gigantamax Mushrooms in the Isle of Armour which allows Pokemon to Gigantamax or remove the ability too from any of the eligible Pokemon that can consume them. If that limitation was removed I imagine alot more different Pokemon would also have the capability to Gigantamax.

  • @UndeadJohnGaming
    @UndeadJohnGaming 11 місяців тому +1

    This theory was bang on if I'm honest! I love it :)
    I wonder if Gen 3 could be chalked up to Draconids... And I wonder if Draconids could be around the Pokemon world....
    I was also thinking I wonder if the number7 can be the number of generations that have a specific Dragon Legendary Pokemon (so far anyway)

    • @ejokurirulezz
      @ejokurirulezz 11 місяців тому +1

      number 7 is most likely part of the gnosticism, since the hebrew diagrams also appeared, referring to the 7 world - creating archons, the hebdomad

  • @fruit3193
    @fruit3193 10 місяців тому +1

    I agree that Kyurem wouldn't be involved in this, even if the theory was accurate. However, to be nitpicky, I believe the Tao Trio represents nuclear power plants and plasma, not draconic energy. Kyurem is the coolant, Reshiram is the heat generated, and Zekrom is the electricity generated.
    I see Dragon type as a Pokemon forcing energy to do its bidding, rather than simply a pure form of that energy. A Dragon-type Pokemon is so strong that it can manipulate the very energy of the world because it wants to. As such, I don't think that any Dragon types have any special status in the Pokemon world's divine hierarchy due to their type. The Creation Trio are simply so powerful that they have to be Dragons; they're not that powerful due to being Dragons.
    I'm overall convinced that this theory is false. Here's why I think that these specific Legendary Pokemon don't make sense to be included in this theory:
    - None of them have any in-game connections with Arceus. You'd think at least something would be mentioned.
    - Some of them being from space doesn't connect any of them to Arceus. Arceus is from an alternate dimensional plane, not from space.
    - Eternatus's Poison type isn't related to chemical poisons, but rather to nuclear radiation. Radiation takes the form of either energy or charged subatomic particles, not chemicals. Consider that radiation poisoning is a thing.
    - Even if we were to somehow count Eternatus as a "chemical" despite the above, that's still only dangerous chemicals. It wouldn't represent the more general concept of a chemical.
    - Terapagos is Normal type, likely to represent "every type" in the same way as Arceus or Silvally.
    I disagree with the idea that Guzzlord is an alternate version of Zygarde. The "evidence" for that has always been extremely thin in my opinion.
    Zygarde's power was not used to create Mega Stones, and Zygarde itself is not in charge of the energy within Mega Stones. Rather, Zygarde is meant to maintain order. Its category in the Pokedex is the Order Pokemon, and the majority of its dex entries mention its desire to keep the peace, maintain a balance in the ecosystem. Nowhere is it mentioned that Zygarde has dominion over energy. (Its connection with Xerneas and Yveltal is that it maintains their balance as part of its role, not that it literally controls them.)
    I disagree with the idea that Terapagos can see through other Pokemon's Tera crowns. Rather, I think those eyes/faces are indicative of Terastal Energy's connections with Terapagos's raw power, taking a form similar to it because of how that energy formed. Stellar Tera Type is just a more pure and concentrated version of that energy.
    Carbink's connections to Mega Evolution are slim at best, but there's nothing connecting it to Zygarde. Minior has nothing to do with Necrozma or Z-Power. Stonjourner has nothing to do with Eternatus itself, though it does seem to have a relationship to Dynamax Energy via Power Spots (places where Dynamaxing is possible, also the name of Stonjourner's ability). Cryogonal is just an ice-based Pokemon from Unova; there's nothing specific connecting it to Kyurem.
    The tree AZ planted is not related to the existence of Mega Evolution or to Zygarde. We don't really know much about the Battle Tree, but it doesn't have any stated or implied connections to Zygarde or Z-Power. Dyna Tree grew on a Power Spot, but otherwise there's no connections to Eternatus. Kleavor's tree was big even before Arceus's power overwhelmed Kleavor.
    This whole "seven dragons" thing doesn't make any sense. I don't know where that comes from, and I don't think Hydrapple has anything to do with this theory.
    I don't think it's that Pokemon is bad at cosmological stories, but rather that they don't need to tell those sorts of stories. There doesn't need to be some super deep connection between every game's Legendaries, you know what I mean?

  • @M_Alexander
    @M_Alexander 11 місяців тому

    I love it, this is like the much more complete version of the theory I've been trying to piece together for ages!

    • @M_Alexander
      @M_Alexander 11 місяців тому

      Rayquaza was always kind of a "maaaybe?" and I just don't expect the concept existed during Gens 1 & 2 which was likely the case for 3 but possibly hinted at a retcon in ORAS

    • @M_Alexander
      @M_Alexander 11 місяців тому

      Alternatively yeah, GF just likes dragons and caves and meteors

  • @jadedartistgal
    @jadedartistgal 11 місяців тому

    Theory: Necrozma, Eternatus, and Terapagos form a food chain
    Necrozma emits powerful type energy across many realities, Terapagos absorbs type energy to form its Terastal Shell, Eternatus is a decomposer that breaks this energy down into chaotic Galar Particles.

  • @potatoqueen5248
    @potatoqueen5248 11 місяців тому

    For Unova, maybe the White Treehollow could count for our tree, since Toby couldn't think of one. It's maybe a weaker link, but it's something I guess.

  • @LoreKeeperVG
    @LoreKeeperVG 8 місяців тому

    Just noticed that you mentioned me in the video description!
    Thank you so much Toby. I already loved this video, but now it's even more special for me ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @qisadreamer5833
    @qisadreamer5833 11 місяців тому

    i havent watched the full theory yet but i believe the poison type is meant to represent the way dynamax energy can effect pokemon, generally making them more aggressive and going berserk when not controlled by a trainer