Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Audible: audible.com/lex to get 30-day free trial - GiveWell: www.givewell.org and use code Lex Fridman Podcast - Linode: linode.com/lex to get $100 free credit - Indeed: indeed.com/lex to get $75 credit - ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free 0:58 - Poker and game theory 8:01 - Dating optimally 12:53 - Learning 21:05 - Daniel Negreanu 26:13 - Phil Hellmuth 28:46 - Greatest poker player ever 33:04 - Bluffing 43:25 - Losing 52:41 - Mutually assured destruction 57:35 - Simulation hypothesis 1:14:13 - Moloch 1:43:25 - Beauty 1:55:33 - Quantifying life 2:15:43 - Existential risks 2:34:06 - AI 2:43:57 - Energy healing 2:51:07 - Astrophysics 2:54:01 - Aliens 3:19:43 - Advice for young people 3:21:48 - Music 3:29:37 - Meaning of life
1:30:03 - never ever have I heard such a strong Russian accent from you, mister...now, there could be various explanations for it, one of them being that your NPC was temporarily played by an 80s American action movies villain =)
One of the positive steps forward for humanity in the internet age is the demonstrated viability of the long format discussion as consumable media, particularly with open and curious minds like these two. This was a pleasure to ride alongside from start to finish. Thanks Lex and Liv!
@@IASrabon It was subtle. I think she was trying to tease him, thinking it would be funny if he caught but she let it go to avoid derailing the discussion.
This interview is one of the reasons I love Lex. She is another amazing guest I didn't know I needed to know about, and would never have expected. Keep up the good work!
liv boeree cheated on her professional poker player boyfriend by having an orgy with 4-5 guys (including igor kurganov) at atlantis in bahamas and tried to cover it up until she was exposed. eventually she quit poker when she realized she couldn't fk her way to the top
i really love the way lex broke down the time it takes to educate yourself and how college affords people the "free" time to learn. I always run into that problem when talking to people, they havent had the time to learn huge swaths of information like i have. But Im a philosopher at heart and I dont own any possessions other than a laptop and two bags of clothes and a cheap smartphone
I really loved that also. I can now explain to my middle-school kids what a privilege it is to be able to educate themselves without also worrying about how they are going to pay the mortgage or other. Very cool, very educational interview.
yet the wealth you have in the inside goes beyond the material things you carry with you…. and that makes all the difference …. for you, and for us, as a society …. so keep spreading the word, the wisdom, the knowledge…. we all create the net called society …. where we influence and guide each other…. from the tiniest statements, to the tiniest actions of cooperation, kindness … we all create this living organism, called society …. where the moment we help those we don’t know we are but helping ourselves …. the moment we send kindness, use words and emotions that seek to take the best out of the other, we are doing that to ourselves… your learning, your improvement is ours ….
I would love to hear more from the learning (12:53-21:05) section perhaps on another episode? I am currently a university student and just realized that an episode on Lex's university experience and lessons would be fantastic!
Or maybe podcasts are the reason you don't take steps to find meaningful conversations in real life? They are just enough to fulfil your needs so you don't have to go through the pains of attaining the real thing. Like porn is to sex. (don't mean to be a dick - I just wonder this about my own podcast use)
@@SolarJakee haha! Wow not expecting that take 😆 - I’m a sole custody single parent of two so I really have very little time to meet people; most people are other parents, and everyone seems pretty exhausted most of the time or just wants to complain about their kids or spouse- I have realized I’m going to need to make a concentrated effort to get myself into situations where I can meet more adults!
Knowledge is awareness of data, Wisdom is the synthesis of the data. You can't have wisdom without knowledge, but you can have knowledge without wisdom.
@@ryadh456 I don't really. Just noticed you're over reaction. Just get a friend to talk to. Then these things don't seem so amazing. It's really that simple.
One of my favorites without a doubt. Just felt spontaneous, genuine and honest. One of those guests that I definitely wish to see more future appearances with.
What a fantastic conversation! I remember her from poker stars. She has a seriously impressive intellect and mind. Will defo check out more of her stuff.
If ever there was another human that made me think they were a robot, this sentance did it for me: "I want my emotions to calibrate with reality as much as possible"
There was a lot of chemistry here. She got Lex to open up and learned some interesting things about him. Didn’t know who she was before this but will for sure check out some of her stuff now. Great podcast.
I love this podcast. Another fun and amazingly idea-filled session with an amazing guest. A real pleasure to be a fly on the wall in a room listening to exceptionally smart people exploring provocative concepts. There is nothing better the entire internet can offer.
Agreed to an extent. I think he'd be a difficult read but I also think he'd rely on the math far too much and play safe. It would certainly be a fun romp testing that theory playing against him though!
Lex no no no. Don't listen. Lol 😀 ask Mr.Kotter how much money on the job poker training cost him. Lol 😀 he got to commentate it later. Your too popular. Invest in this girl maybe !
What a great interview! I'm not into Poker, I'm really not competitive and yet I was captivated listening throughout. Liv Boeree you are pretty awesome! Thanks Lex for interviewing such fascinating and inspiring people.
I first came across Liv by watching poker. Its great for folks to have different hobbies. You never know what else lies in their beautiful minds. For that, Thank you Lex. Can't wait for more.
Oh Lex you make me laugh and laugh and I love you for it and all of the fantastic individuals you host on this podcast. The range of topics covered is vast and I always feel like I gain some form of insight in each podcast, so thank you very much for your hard work, your intellect, your wit, and your humor. Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
Outstanding episode! Love the philosophy, metaphysics and eye opening the Moloch part. Realized a little more of how many times and ways we can get caught in those systems unintentionally. Feel like AGI could be an extension of that to outwork Moloch on a scale that could be devastating. Definitely need wisdom and discernment to avoid many risks.
Honestly Liv’s two “crazy things” that happened to her are my favorite parts of this podcast. I want to hear more about experiences that deviate from the current scientific narrative. Exploring those unknowns is how we will progress.
Yes Lex, and everybody willing, give us more on considering, exploring anomalies that allow us to question the received paradigm. Let us not be like the body of knowledge whether physics or any other body of knowledge that sometimes only the death of the old physicist allows it to move forward into the unknown.
@@Mike___Kilo sure - it might be enough to say what you said. Feel free to not respond again. I know God cannot really be encapsulated in words. But I want to know if you can throw more words at it and point at something so I can tell if I can agree with you or not
Listened to Liv on Ali Abdaal's Deep Dive podcast just now, and now I discover you've both had a conversation too! Oh man I can't wait to get listening to this!
Wow... mindblowing. I started watching about 7 hours ago. Had to take breaks to think, digest, look for some references. I was really impressed with this one. Thanks Lex Fridman and Liv Boeree, you got me thinking about the topics you discussed in a unique way. Looking forward to Liv's podcast.
I love that you said that the biggest lessons were from life not school. I’ve done both and I was the first in all generations to finish high school and college. Higher Education was a mystery to me. I found that my father was right. You can learn all you need to learn in a library. I’m still grateful to have my education. However, I do believe, my main education came from being a service worker, a life watcher and my traveling. Xo
Yes, a person can definitely improve themselves in the Library, and I understand that the current meme is that college degrees are worthless, but I think the knowledge I got in Engineering school far surpasses the knowledge that I just randomly picked up in the past 30 years, and I think it would have been difficult to master the subjects I learned in college in the local library. Also.many, many jobs are not even approachable without a degree. If you have a college degree and no job, your degree is Philosophy or Literature.
I'd say the biggest lessons are at the intersection between books and life. When you confront what you've learned from education with how life is. I never understood why people would want to oppose them. Both are useful.
@@Lultschful Of course education is not the end of it. But I think Education and Relevant Experience is the combination you are looking for. A fresh MD is a doctor, but I bet you do not want them doing your brain surgery yet. Also, I am old and have a lot of "Life Experience," and yet you better not let me do your brain surgery either.
Lex, been watching your podcasts for little over a month, just wanted to say how liberating and mind opening you are, also that you somehow give a true sense of hope in humanity as a whole. Thanks for being a little bit amazing, cheers dude!
About redesigning society/technology: as long as centralization of doing things is the paradigm, things will continue to spiral downward. The reason that is true is centralization puts control in the hands of fewer and fewer people and that is counterproductive. There is less chance of competent control. We need to find decentralized ways of getting things done. The more people in control, the better the potential outcome because of the increased chance of competent people in control.
I have been messing around with electronics, and building computer devices for a few years now. I am recently learning how to fly quad copters, and that 'white noise' that Liv talked about is exactly what I am attempting to tame, while I race an expensive quad around. Keeping my body and brain at that zen level of calm, while at the same time making split second decisions at speeds that are only recently attained at first person from the human perspective. I have broken more of them than I would like, but I have to say, I am so very grateful for having access to a simulator. Even in simulator, that fight or flight is not easy to tame, but is a much less expensive way to get it together!
GREAT podcast (as always) Lex! At one point early on, Ms. Boeree mentioned that she utilized ONE physics text over all the rest while attaining her Physics degree. Said it was extremely comprehensive, and covered everything. Could you please reach out to her and provide us with the title, author(s), and edition for this text my good man? I LOVE skipping the time, energy, and financial cost of formal university education when possible.
On twitter she said it's Sears and Zemansky's University Physics 10th edition. Being British she probably 1st studied A Level Physics by Roger Muncaster.
I like Liv's idea of being able to level up in different aspects of humanity. And having them all separate but equally important in their own right. It's a talent tree for humanity.
@@SMacCuUladh It was just morphed into social groups. World of warcraft guilds, discord servers, Facebook groups. They all offer a similar life reward. People are social and enjoy groups of others who are doing the same things . The church used to be the general community center. But through scandal and greed many people lost all their trust in said churches. The idea is still solid, worship life, a deity, and the general greatness of humanity. But the church must also accept that life has changed a LOT since its peak. Mostly for the better, but not all. People could certainly use a group that they could trust to actually be helpful to the community, understanding, honest, and a source of inspiration.
Always refreshing to listen to Liv. As a female myself it makes me happy to listen to another woman delivering both wit and knowledge in a podcast like this.
@@kenjoneslee men hit higher heights i guess and lex gets those guests. I listened to both botez sisters and magnus carlsons casts but magnus is the bigger draw for chess fans. Simps might change this to come though.
@@kenjoneslee because it's the way the world is you can have all the freedom all the rights but the world will still do its own thing in those set conditions but it's nice to see awesome girls who come to the top atleast in the podcast world
Wonderful to hear engaging, intelligent discussion between 2 fascinating individuals. In a world of garbage social media this channel, its guests, discussion and direction are a relieving recourse.
Wow! Lex always comes with the big surprise guests!! Liv is one of my absolute favorite poker pros, prob because of all the pokerstars content I've watched lol She always seemed like such an interesting person because of what I heard she was doing outside of poker! Love you Lex
I am certainly no expert on poker but i have played enough to learn that many players assume everyone else plays the same way they do. Identifying and exploiting those players is a huge game changer. And it translates to modern politics and people's fears and concerns when making policy. They are so myopic in their macro level viewpoint and oblivious how transparent they truly are.
This is one of the great weaknesses of human cognition: our difficulty modelling the minds of other agents. We tend to assume others' minds are the same as ours as a strategy to simplify our cognitive load, because our brain wants to consume fewer calories. On top of that, many of us are simply bad at empathising (in the sense of being inaccurate or lacking intuitive insight into how someone else is thinking & feeling). The net result is we live in a very self-dominated bubble and make a lot of sub-optimal decisions.
Loss minimization, skillful or lucky money managers, when to press your hand & when to fold, probabilistic outcomes when those making policy decisions are tipping their hand, relatable stuff for those in my field or just about any field. Good to the last drop, including the Feynman quote from Lex to close out the episode. Cannot thank Lex enough for this Podcast series, one that can be watched & listened to on UA-cam. Liv was great.
I’ve heard a voice, that wasn’t the regular everyday narrative voice, in my head that shocked me so much that i turned around to see who said it. And it was what i needed to hear at the point in time.
Sounds like the beginning of a psychological horror or your initial experience of schizophrenia - could also be you from a parallel universe offering positive guidance 😳😬☺️
Thank you for another amazing, entertaining, educational meeting of the minds Lex. When I was young school was about getting A's that was the game. I'm sure some knowledge managed to seek into my brain but I was not actively trying to be inquisitive. It is pod cast such as this one that has brought from ambers forth a flame of hunger for knowledge and knowing about as much variety of people as possible for that I'm eternally grateful, Lex. You're outlook of love for humanity paired with intrigue of what can be created is a beautiful lens to see the world through.
This is a brilliant conversation: Their desire to come together to exchange ideas. Their love of learning. Liv's infectious energy (even Lex gets caught up in it). All swirls together loud and clear.
She is brilliant! Thanks Lex, you deliver EVERY SINGLE TIME. Best Podcaster ever. Keep up all your hard work, you ARE changing the world and making it more beautiful.
Learning is fun if you're interested in the subject. That's why a teacher who conveys his enthusiasm for & deep understanding of the subject is truly valuable.
The concept Liv was attempting to articulate is - The infinite realm of ideation. Long live Liv! Also I am one of those people that spent one eventful night 25 years ago inventing the Game of Life. (Liv calls "win-win") it is not a traditional game, as in, there's always a winner and always a looser, but rather all players are encouraged to win and if we don't all win than we all loose. This computer game is worldwide is meant to last for years or perhaps forever. In the mean time the actual world improves incrementally by literally implementing the games solutions one by one. Also it's a huge program requiring massive computing power. Will you join?
@@joshuajamesharvey paying for what? Information is free. Unless you want to learn to be a licensed medical doctor or a professional academic, anything you want to learn is already out there for free, or at least cheap.
@@liquidsnakex For the time that'd be spent learning rather than paying a mortgage. I just took a month and a half off to focus and learn a new piece of software; a sabatical is very expensive. True mastery of a tool is not picked up from UA-cam, it comes from experience (time). Most people already have some degree of Golden Handcuffs on their time, its possible but most people's time is already budgeted for the life they're currently living ( house + family ). Students and young adults are free from these constraints and your point is a bit idealistic.
I don't know if I'm feeling a kinship with Lex, or a basic attraction to Liv, or their attraction to each other, but I REALLY enjoyed this conversation. There's a theme or feeling of flirtation as you two clearly enjoyed discussing every single detail that you bounced to and from. Thank you both!
Lex, its an absolute honor to be alive in the same time as you. Since your Pfizer interview you have stepped up in a way that just continues to blow my mind.
I've been reading "Probablility Theory: The logic of science" by E.T. Jaynes. It's a 800 pages long textbook but it is such a treat to read. I get so absorbed by the incredibly excellent writing. Makes you wanna learn the subject even if you find it terribly hard to understand. This is how you write textbooks.
You guys touched on so many cool ideas in this episode. I just need Liv to take a breath and slooooooow down! I really liked her Moloch video too, it's one of those concepts that flip the way you see a whole host of things.
This was super wholesome for me to watch! Thank you! I'm happy to write this comment with graditude as the core emotion drive for my engagement. If I actively only engage and comment positivity, (with others hopefully realizing this too) the algorithm will see that anger is not working as well and be adapting itself in winwin's favor 💙💜 Jah bless
I am 15mins into the podcast and I love you’ve mentioned that you do not understand Shakespeare and Liv confirms it’s super hard. This reminds me of Highschool here in Germany, where they let us read Shakespeare‘s Macbeth and others in order for us to learn the (modern) English language. It hasn’t helped me much, I gained most of my knowledge from Movies, Shows, Reading and Chatting with people. Just my 2 cents on German education system, going to enjoy the rest of the podcast now and might edit this post later!
Engineer and semi pro poker player here- thank you Lex for making my dream podcast come true! Poker is a truly beautiful game and the applied game theory is endlessly fascinating.
BEST GUEST EVER!!! She filled in so many gaps in so many things I have been lacking in but haven’t had the chance to search for the answers! I am blown away by this guest and how her thinking was so similar to mine, yet so different, and hearing her take things out to conclusions, or her current understanding anyway, was really insightful! She obviously had info from her connections that I did not have, not that I couldn’t have found it, so that’s no excuse . . . But it is fascinating to see how that influenced her thinking. Now I have so much more to contemplate and so much more insight to help me to understand anything else I learn about. This gives me better tools for parsing out fact from fiction. And to top it all off she has excellent taste in music, her favorite metal bands are my favorite metal bands! I guess this should actually be no surprise, since they are the most popular-except, like she says, most people seem to think you have to like one or the other-which is crazy, and is another example of nickelback phenomenon-like fear of going against the group causing people to keep something they like secret due to fear of being ostracized or made fun of. Which sort of fits in with what was discussed on this podcast, although tangentially. Also, she is very . . . Unintentionally seductive? Anyway, she is really easy to like, and a very beautiful person on the inside and out. Shut up, perverts. You know what I mean. And I’m happily married, so no offense to Igor.
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0:58 - Poker and game theory
8:01 - Dating optimally
12:53 - Learning
21:05 - Daniel Negreanu
26:13 - Phil Hellmuth
28:46 - Greatest poker player ever
33:04 - Bluffing
43:25 - Losing
52:41 - Mutually assured destruction
57:35 - Simulation hypothesis
1:14:13 - Moloch
1:43:25 - Beauty
1:55:33 - Quantifying life
2:15:43 - Existential risks
2:34:06 - AI
2:43:57 - Energy healing
2:51:07 - Astrophysics
2:54:01 - Aliens
3:19:43 - Advice for young people
3:21:48 - Music
3:29:37 - Meaning of life
R u kidding Lex & Liv… that’s hot!! 💥🔥✨
Lex and Liv: Enjoying your positive perspectiveS talking about the school years, text books - time to learn , etc.....
@@rockestee talk about Flirt Poker… check mate the body Lang
1:30:03 - never ever have I heard such a strong Russian accent from you, mister...now, there could be various explanations for it, one of them being that your NPC was temporarily played by an 80s American action movies villain =)
@@BeckyYork watz ur obcess w/ cars luv it!
Eeeeeee I'm so happy this is out, kudos to Lex for being one of the greatest interviewers of our time. Thanks for watching folks!
kudos to you for being one of the greatest guests
Oh great, now I found out about Polytopia, seems like another game I'll have to play before I can go to sleep.
Great interview - I would watch your podcast.
I just became a fan
Your interview was great! Thank you for doing it.
One of the positive steps forward for humanity in the internet age is the demonstrated viability of the long format discussion as consumable media, particularly with open and curious minds like these two. This was a pleasure to ride alongside from start to finish. Thanks Lex and Liv!
Definitely agree with you!))
Beautifully put :)
Facto
Well said
Couldn’t agree more ✅
That almost awkward moment when Liv says, "I'm more of a scissors girl" and Lex took it as a serious statement. 😂🤣
Did she not set herself up for it??
@JoeyBeGoode yes that was obviously on purpose and Lex completely missed it 🤣
@@danieldelanoche2015 I missed it too xD
@@IASrabon It was subtle. I think she was trying to tease him, thinking it would be funny if he caught but she let it go to avoid derailing the discussion.
@@JamesKelley1women are so bad ass! More women on the podcast please!❤😊🎉
This interview is one of the reasons I love Lex. She is another amazing guest I didn't know I needed to know about, and would never have expected.
Keep up the good work!
could not agree more!
Could agree -only missing HAF
liv boeree cheated on her professional poker player boyfriend by having an orgy with 4-5 guys (including igor kurganov) at atlantis in bahamas and tried to cover it up until she was exposed. eventually she quit poker when she realized she couldn't fk her way to the top
Liv is terrific conversational guest this has me smiling - love it.
i really love the way lex broke down the time it takes to educate yourself and how college affords people the "free" time to learn. I always run into that problem when talking to people, they havent had the time to learn huge swaths of information like i have. But Im a philosopher at heart and I dont own any possessions other than a laptop and two bags of clothes and a cheap smartphone
I really loved that also. I can now explain to my middle-school kids what a privilege it is to be able to educate themselves without also worrying about how they are going to pay the mortgage or other. Very cool, very educational interview.
yet the wealth you have in the inside goes beyond the material things you carry with you…. and that makes all the difference …. for you, and for us, as a society …. so keep spreading the word, the wisdom, the knowledge…. we all create the net called society …. where we influence and guide each other…. from the tiniest statements, to the tiniest actions of cooperation, kindness … we all create this living organism, called society …. where the moment we help those we don’t know we are but helping ourselves …. the moment we send kindness, use words and emotions that seek to take the best out of the other, we are doing that to ourselves… your learning, your improvement is ours ….
I'm with You There Brotha.
30:03 n
This continues to be the best podcast in the world.
Agreed!
I would love to hear more from the learning (12:53-21:05) section perhaps on another episode? I am currently a university student and just realized that an episode on Lex's university experience and lessons would be fantastic!
Realized today whilst listening, how starved I am for stimulating and deep conversation. Thank goodness for podcasts!
No kidding. We live in a moment when we limit our speak to trendy, fad emojis about the latest propagandized meme…
Or maybe podcasts are the reason you don't take steps to find meaningful conversations in real life? They are just enough to fulfil your needs so you don't have to go through the pains of attaining the real thing. Like porn is to sex.
(don't mean to be a dick - I just wonder this about my own podcast use)
@@SolarJakee haha! Wow not expecting that take 😆 - I’m a sole custody single parent of two so I really have very little time to meet people; most people are other parents, and everyone seems pretty exhausted most of the time or just wants to complain about their kids or spouse- I have realized I’m going to need to make a concentrated effort to get myself into situations where I can meet more adults!
I actually only started listening to podcasts this month; hence my excitement
I’d never heard of Liv, so didn’t know what to expect with this one, but turned out to be one of the best episodes so far!
She's been in the poker world for a long time but you probably know that by now.
@@Dev-In-Denver123 playing other peoples money.
She busto
@@nsbdbsbsbdbzbz8555 Hm do any pros play with their own money? What idiots are these lol?
@@Dev-In-Denver123 pretty niche, do you know any world level downhill mountain bikers, rally drivers or go players?
@@devilsolution9781 I know 6 go players
Knowledge is knowing Dr. Frankenstein was not the monster. Wisdom is understanding Dr. Frankenstein was the monster.
All I know is that I know nothing.
3 Deep 5 Me
Knowledge is awareness of data, Wisdom is the synthesis of the data. You can't have wisdom without knowledge, but you can have knowledge without wisdom.
Or you could call that insight/understanding. Wisdom is what tends to keep you alive, or the application of the knowledge and insight/understanding.
@@frottery I disagree. I think we're born with a certain innate level of wisdom, which does not depend on any experiential or theoretic knowledge.
Amazing, intelligent, and thoughtful podcast per usual Lex. Thank you.
You are becoming one of the greatest podcasters alive. These conversations are amazing. Thanks so much.
They aren't that great.
@@Denverdude7 So why do you watch them? They are great.
@@ryadh456 I don't really. Just noticed you're over reaction. Just get a friend to talk to. Then these things don't seem so amazing. It's really that simple.
He's everything that Rogan tried to be: an 'intellectual'
One of my favorites without a doubt. Just felt spontaneous, genuine and honest. One of those guests that I definitely wish to see more future appearances with.
What a fantastic conversation! I remember her from poker stars. She has a seriously impressive intellect and mind. Will defo check out more of her stuff.
Hands down my favorite guest and conversation in the few years I've been a subscriber. This needs a part 2!
I was almost gonna skip this one. Thanks. Will listen.
Totally agree. She was definitely the best guest here!
Agreed! Fascinating interview
If ever there was another human that made me think they were a robot, this sentance did it for me: "I want my emotions to calibrate with reality as much as possible"
Liv: I'm getting less competitive
Also Liv: Win against 15 Crazy Polytopia bots 90% of the time and you can hang with us
Is it on mobile or pc? I wonder which version they play
"hold my beer"
*30 seconds later
"give me my f*cking beer back"
Heh. Luv is obviously very competitive.
@@hightwelve9991 Both I think
@@rafaelanim8 lmfao!
This has to be one of the best interviews I have ever seen.
Fantastic chemistry between the two of you. Extreme passion on both sides. More please.
There was a lot of chemistry here. She got Lex to open up and learned some interesting things about him. Didn’t know who she was before this but will for sure check out some of her stuff now. Great podcast.
I love this podcast. Another fun and amazingly idea-filled session with an amazing guest. A real pleasure to be a fly on the wall in a room listening to exceptionally smart people exploring provocative concepts. There is nothing better the entire internet can offer.
😊😊😊
Great discussion! Love how, through the most serious subjects, both manage to include fun and humor.
I'm so excited to learn about Liv! I look forward to her podcast and will definitely tune in when it comes out.
Feel like Lex would be a great presence at a card table
Agreed to an extent. I think he'd be a difficult read but I also think he'd rely on the math far too much and play safe. It would certainly be a fun romp testing that theory playing against him though!
He would definitely be a nit lol, but he would bring great conversation
And Liv a good chat.
Lex no no no. Don't listen. Lol 😀 ask Mr.Kotter how much money on the job poker training cost him. Lol 😀 he got to commentate it later. Your too popular. Invest in this girl maybe !
Lex (out of nowhere): “Do you ever contemplate your own personal mortality?”
Such an interesting conversation. I love listening to really smart people. Thanks to both of you for another great interview.
Was there chemistry here, or was it just the result of two beautiful geniuses having a good conversation? Great episode
There was chemistry
Idk, she was awfully smiley and warm towards Lex. And damn she was excited!
She is proof life isnt fair. Brilliant, Beautiful and a British accent...I have no defenses against her.
Ah, yes. The Quad B. Brilliant Beautiful British Babe. 🥲
lol goddamn Royal Flush!
Most girls in Britain are awful FYI. God bless Liv
Lex immediately went home to feed the geese!
@Ronald Nygma straight up. Every one knows this
What a great interview! I'm not into Poker, I'm really not competitive and yet I was captivated listening throughout. Liv Boeree you are pretty awesome! Thanks Lex for interviewing such fascinating and inspiring people.
Absolutely loved this conversation! Liv, you're awesome! and so are you Lex 😊
Really high level and thoughtful. Thank you Liv and Lex for your words and time
Lex, never stop! Your content is so engaging and educational. It improves my life.
You two guys have been in my top 5 inspiration people for the past 5 years. Thank you both. GRACIAS
Why? Both of them are stupid
It’s like watching a female Lex! Loved the interview!
My thoughts exactly - they should be together
Yes!
I immediately realized, “lex’s soul mate”
She gave away some critical game theory there Lex, 20% chance buddy.
Bed Her
That Evil smile she gives saying "I'm more of a scissors girl" is beautiful
Lol she knows Lex won't know what to reply with and he didn't. 1 - 0 to Liz.
Classic. It took Lex a second to figure out whether or not she was serious.
At what time did that happen?
I absolutely adore how not you, not other commentors in this thread, and not even our naive friend Lex caught what she really actually meant by that.
@@NGC1433 eyeroll
I first came across Liv by watching poker. Its great for folks to have different hobbies. You never know what else lies in their beautiful minds. For that, Thank you Lex. Can't wait for more.
Oh Lex you make me laugh and laugh and I love you for it and all of the fantastic individuals you host on this podcast. The range of topics covered is vast and I always feel like I gain some form of insight in each podcast, so thank you very much for your hard work, your intellect, your wit, and your humor. Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
Outstanding episode! Love the philosophy, metaphysics and eye opening the Moloch part. Realized a little more of how many times and ways we can get caught in those systems unintentionally. Feel like AGI could be an extension of that to outwork Moloch on a scale that could be devastating. Definitely need wisdom and discernment to avoid many risks.
You have gathered quite a cohort of people and ideas Lex, thank you for sharing them.
When I listen to this I feel like I'm sat with two friends & I'm just sat back listening. Thank you
Honestly Liv’s two “crazy things” that happened to her are my favorite parts of this podcast. I want to hear more about experiences that deviate from the current scientific narrative. Exploring those unknowns is how we will progress.
Yes Lex, and everybody willing, give us more on considering, exploring anomalies that allow us to question the received paradigm. Let us not be like the body of knowledge whether physics or any other body of knowledge that sometimes only the death of the old physicist allows it to move forward into the unknown.
More and more highly intelligent people seem to be sensing/intuiting, searching for - and on their way to finding - God.
@@Mike___Kilo explain God
@@sublimechimp Any explanation would necessarily fall short and seem reductionist. It’s enough to say what I said and leave it at that.
@@Mike___Kilo sure - it might be enough to say what you said. Feel free to not respond again. I know God cannot really be encapsulated in words. But I want to know if you can throw more words at it and point at something so I can tell if I can agree with you or not
Listened to Liv on Ali Abdaal's Deep Dive podcast just now, and now I discover you've both had a conversation too! Oh man I can't wait to get listening to this!
Fantastic conversation! Thank you for having on Liv. She is BRILLIANT!!!
Wow... mindblowing. I started watching about 7 hours ago. Had to take breaks to think, digest, look for some references. I was really impressed with this one. Thanks Lex Fridman and Liv Boeree, you got me thinking about the topics you discussed in a unique way.
Looking forward to Liv's podcast.
I love that you said that the biggest lessons were from life not school. I’ve done both and I was the first in all generations to finish high school and college. Higher Education was a mystery to me. I found that my father was right. You can learn all you need to learn in a library. I’m still grateful to have my education. However, I do believe, my main education came from being a service worker, a life watcher and my traveling. Xo
Yes, a person can definitely improve themselves in the Library, and I understand that the current meme is that college degrees are worthless, but I think the knowledge I got in Engineering school far surpasses the knowledge that I just randomly picked up in the past 30 years, and I think it would have been difficult to master the subjects I learned in college in the local library. Also.many, many jobs are not even approachable without a degree. If you have a college degree and no job, your degree is Philosophy or Literature.
What did you background in at university and what do you mean by service worker, if I may ask
I'd say the biggest lessons are at the intersection between books and life. When you confront what you've learned from education with how life is. I never understood why people would want to oppose them. Both are useful.
@@Lultschful Of course education is not the end of it. But I think Education and Relevant Experience is the combination you are looking for. A fresh MD is a doctor, but I bet you do not want them doing your brain surgery yet. Also, I am old and have a lot of "Life Experience," and yet you better not let me do your brain surgery either.
@@MScottBlalock that... Is exactly what I said...
Philosophy and humor are always the best combinations for a good podcast!
Lex, been watching your podcasts for little over a month, just wanted to say how liberating and mind opening you are, also that you somehow give a true sense of hope in humanity as a whole. Thanks for being a little bit amazing, cheers dude!
About redesigning society/technology: as long as centralization of doing things is the paradigm, things will continue to spiral downward. The reason that is true is centralization puts control in the hands of fewer and fewer people and that is counterproductive. There is less chance of competent control. We need to find decentralized ways of getting things done. The more people in control, the better the potential outcome because of the increased chance of competent people in control.
She's really smart, I'm glad I watched all of that. You're so lucky to be able to interview all these cool people.
As a poker player and a scientist, I really enjoyed this episode. What a fascinating woman. Great work.
I have been messing around with electronics, and building computer devices for a few years now. I am recently learning how to fly quad copters, and that 'white noise' that Liv talked about is exactly what I am attempting to tame, while I race an expensive quad around. Keeping my body and brain at that zen level of calm, while at the same time making split second decisions at speeds that are only recently attained at first person from the human perspective. I have broken more of them than I would like, but I have to say, I am so very grateful for having access to a simulator. Even in simulator, that fight or flight is not easy to tame, but is a much less expensive way to get it together!
GREAT podcast (as always) Lex!
At one point early on, Ms. Boeree mentioned that she utilized ONE physics text over all the rest while attaining her Physics degree. Said it was extremely comprehensive, and covered everything.
Could you please reach out to her and provide us with the title, author(s), and edition for this text my good man?
I LOVE skipping the time, energy, and financial cost of formal university education when possible.
On twitter she said it's Sears and Zemansky's University Physics 10th edition. Being British she probably 1st studied A Level Physics by Roger Muncaster.
Such a joy to see such a brilliance. I wish I had a friend like her.
Congrats on breaking through 2,000,000 subs!
Liv is one of the smartest people I've come across on social media I'm excited to see what is next from her!
lmfao
I like Liv's idea of being able to level up in different aspects of humanity. And having them all separate but equally important in their own right. It's a talent tree for humanity.
The biggest factor in humanity levelling up over time has been Christianity. There isn't much of a desire for that these days though.
@@SMacCuUladh It was just morphed into social groups. World of warcraft guilds, discord servers, Facebook groups. They all offer a similar life reward.
People are social and enjoy groups of others who are doing the same things . The church used to be the general community center. But through scandal and greed many people lost all their trust in said churches.
The idea is still solid, worship life, a deity, and the general greatness of humanity. But the church must also accept that life has changed a LOT since its peak. Mostly for the better, but not all. People could certainly use a group that they could trust to actually be helpful to the community, understanding, honest, and a source of inspiration.
Liv, Ian Banks wrote sci Fi series on this concept re The Culture
Always refreshing to listen to Liv. As a female myself it makes me happy to listen to another woman delivering both wit and knowledge in a podcast like this.
Yeah..why is it always guys?
@@kenjoneslee men hit higher heights i guess and lex gets those guests. I listened to both botez sisters and magnus carlsons casts but magnus is the bigger draw for chess fans. Simps might change this to come though.
@@kenjoneslee because it's the way the world is you can have all the freedom all the rights but the world will still do its own thing in those set conditions but it's nice to see awesome girls who come to the top atleast in the podcast world
@@kenjoneslee cuz men are better. duh. 🤷♂️
@@kenjoneslee men simply more world class at any topic on average. Duh 🤷♂️
I can't believe Liv Boeree is on your radar. One of the most impressive humans on the planet, looking forward to watching this.
Wonderful to hear engaging, intelligent discussion between 2 fascinating individuals. In a world of garbage social media this channel, its guests, discussion and direction are a relieving recourse.
Lex didn’t get her joke about being a scissors girl.
Wow! Lex always comes with the big surprise guests!! Liv is one of my absolute favorite poker pros, prob because of all the pokerstars content I've watched lol She always seemed like such an interesting person because of what I heard she was doing outside of poker!
Love you Lex
Same!!! I can't believe this is actually happening!
I am certainly no expert on poker but i have played enough to learn that many players assume everyone else plays the same way they do. Identifying and exploiting those players is a huge game changer. And it translates to modern politics and people's fears and concerns when making policy. They are so myopic in their macro level viewpoint and oblivious how transparent they truly are.
This is one of the great weaknesses of human cognition: our difficulty modelling the minds of other agents. We tend to assume others' minds are the same as ours as a strategy to simplify our cognitive load, because our brain wants to consume fewer calories. On top of that, many of us are simply bad at empathising (in the sense of being inaccurate or lacking intuitive insight into how someone else is thinking & feeling). The net result is we live in a very self-dominated bubble and make a lot of sub-optimal decisions.
Loss minimization, skillful or lucky money managers, when to press your hand & when to fold, probabilistic outcomes when those making policy decisions are tipping their hand, relatable stuff for those in my field or just about any field. Good to the last drop, including the Feynman quote from Lex to close out the episode. Cannot thank Lex enough for this Podcast series, one that can be watched & listened to on UA-cam. Liv was great.
I recently found you on UA-cam. I have been enjoying all of your podcast I've seen so far. Thank you for the hard work at trying to get to the truth.
What a wonderful and refreshing talk!
Hope to watch Liv and Grimes' talk too!!
That's what I thought too!
I love these two people! Awesome interview! Thank you, Lex!
Has Lex ever talked this much in a podcast? Liv brought out the nervous teenage boy in him 😄
All in your head mate
@@Sal3600 There's always that one guy that takes things way too seriously
@@angelicannihilator Again, all in your head. I see no nervous teenage boy.
@@Sal3600 We get it, you can't take a joke. You don't have to keep proving yourself.
@@angelicannihilator It's all in your head that he can't take a joke.
This conversation is so good that I would listen to it twice, or thrice.
Lex, in Podcast # 292 you mentioned the need to produce offspring. Why don't you request this lady's help? She's such a badass. 🦖🦖🦖
Creepy.🤨
because she is a scissors kind of girl...
I’ve heard a voice, that wasn’t the regular everyday narrative voice, in my head that shocked me so much that i turned around to see who said it. And it was what i needed to hear at the point in time.
I don't know how I found this comment, but the same thing has happened to me
Sounds like the beginning of a psychological horror or your initial experience of schizophrenia - could also be you from a parallel universe offering positive guidance 😳😬☺️
@@mysteriousoul sounds like you are a troll lol
One of my favorite Lex podcasts. Liv is fantastic.
I did the EXACT same thing on grad school physics. I was so pleased with myself that I found a book better than all the recommended books.
Would love to see you talk with Rupert Sheldrake on consciousness and Sabine Hossenfelder on Physics.
Thank you for another amazing, entertaining, educational meeting of the minds Lex. When I was young school was about getting A's that was the game. I'm sure some knowledge managed to seek into my brain but I was not actively trying to be inquisitive. It is pod cast such as this one that has brought from ambers forth a flame of hunger for knowledge and knowing about as much variety of people as possible for that I'm eternally grateful, Lex. You're outlook of love for humanity paired with intrigue of what can be created is a beautiful lens to see the world through.
this is my 2nd time around watching this - Liv it’s brilliant
This is a brilliant conversation: Their desire to come together to exchange ideas. Their love of learning. Liv's infectious energy (even Lex gets caught up in it). All swirls together loud and clear.
You guys vibe together well:)
You’re right; she should absolutely try to hit that
Agreed, Lex she might be the one for you.
What an incredibly fun, knowledgable and interesting person. Didn't know who she was before. Great episode!
They seem so good together. Such a good talk
She is brilliant! Thanks Lex, you deliver EVERY SINGLE TIME. Best Podcaster ever. Keep up all your hard work, you ARE changing the world and making it more beautiful.
Holily Cow, this talk was so mind-blasting at so many levels. Nice to have met you Liv, thru the great Lex F.
Thank you All!
I'm a trader, the info regarding game theory, strategies and probability shared is absolute gold
Learning is fun if you're interested in the subject. That's why a teacher who conveys his enthusiasm for & deep understanding of the subject is truly valuable.
The concept Liv was attempting to articulate is - The infinite realm of ideation. Long live Liv!
Also I am one of those people that spent one eventful night 25 years ago inventing the Game of Life. (Liv calls "win-win") it is not a traditional game, as in, there's always a winner and always a looser, but rather all players are encouraged to win and if we don't all win than we all loose. This computer game is worldwide is meant to last for years or perhaps forever. In the mean time the actual world improves incrementally by literally implementing the games solutions one by one. Also it's a huge program requiring massive computing power. Will you join?
Happy to hear someone else memorializing a time in life when you're learning, I'd love to go back and learn more.
It’s ok, you can go forward and learn more.
@@stvbrsn You paying?
@@joshuajamesharvey paying for what? Information is free.
Unless you want to learn to be a licensed medical doctor or a professional academic, anything you want to learn is already out there for free, or at least cheap.
@@liquidsnakex For the time that'd be spent learning rather than paying a mortgage. I just took a month and a half off to focus and learn a new piece of software; a sabatical is very expensive. True mastery of a tool is not picked up from UA-cam, it comes from experience (time). Most people already have some degree of Golden Handcuffs on their time, its possible but most people's time is already budgeted for the life they're currently living ( house + family ). Students and young adults are free from these constraints and your point is a bit idealistic.
I don't know if I'm feeling a kinship with Lex, or a basic attraction to Liv, or their attraction to each other, but I REALLY enjoyed this conversation. There's a theme or feeling of flirtation as you two clearly enjoyed discussing every single detail that you bounced to and from. Thank you both!
Lex, this is one of your best talks. Liv is wonderful and you are too. Keep fighting the good fight.
This one of my favorite for sure
Watching this conversation is like eating a cake and having it too. I love you both. ♡
I'm eating cake while watching this so double cake for me
This woman, is the epitome of cool 😎.
This podcast turned out to be so much more than I'd expected it to
You guys are my one way friends for sure. Great podcast, epic, legendary, simple. Love you guys!
Always been a fan of Liv. So enamored by this woman. Great interview!
What an incredible show, thank you. Liv is a superb individual, lovely personality, magnificent brain and impossibly beautiful.
in your oppinion- you created a statement. not an absolute truth
Lex, its an absolute honor to be alive in the same time as you. Since your Pfizer interview you have stepped up in a way that just continues to blow my mind.
Pfizer interview was most horrible looks like fixed
I've been reading "Probablility Theory: The logic of science" by E.T. Jaynes. It's a 800 pages long textbook but it is such a treat to read. I get so absorbed by the incredibly excellent writing. Makes you wanna learn the subject even if you find it terribly hard to understand. This is how you write textbooks.
You guys touched on so many cool ideas in this episode. I just need Liv to take a breath and slooooooow down! I really liked her Moloch video too, it's one of those concepts that flip the way you see a whole host of things.
Love it love it LOVE IT! how does Lex manage to keep getting so many fascinating people! one better than the other.
This was super wholesome for me to watch! Thank you! I'm happy to write this comment with graditude as the core emotion drive for my engagement. If I actively only engage and comment positivity, (with others hopefully realizing this too) the algorithm will see that anger is not working as well and be adapting itself in winwin's favor 💙💜 Jah bless
I am 15mins into the podcast and I love you’ve mentioned that you do not understand Shakespeare and Liv confirms it’s super hard. This reminds me of Highschool here in Germany, where they let us read Shakespeare‘s Macbeth and others in order for us to learn the (modern) English language.
It hasn’t helped me much, I gained most of my knowledge from Movies, Shows, Reading and Chatting with people.
Just my 2 cents on German education system, going to enjoy the rest of the podcast now and might edit this post later!
Engineer and semi pro poker player here- thank you Lex for making my dream podcast come true! Poker is a truly beautiful game and the applied game theory is endlessly fascinating.
BEST GUEST EVER!!! She filled in so many gaps in so many things I have been lacking in but haven’t had the chance to search for the answers! I am blown away by this guest and how her thinking was so similar to mine, yet so different, and hearing her take things out to conclusions, or her current understanding anyway, was really insightful! She obviously had info from her connections that I did not have, not that I couldn’t have found it, so that’s no excuse . . . But it is fascinating to see how that influenced her thinking. Now I have so much more to contemplate and so much more insight to help me to understand anything else I learn about. This gives me better tools for parsing out fact from fiction. And to top it all off she has excellent taste in music, her favorite metal bands are my favorite metal bands! I guess this should actually be no surprise, since they are the most popular-except, like she says, most people seem to think you have to like one or the other-which is crazy, and is another example of nickelback phenomenon-like fear of going against the group causing people to keep something they like secret due to fear of being ostracized or made fun of. Which sort of fits in with what was discussed on this podcast, although tangentially. Also, she is very . . . Unintentionally seductive? Anyway, she is really easy to like, and a very beautiful person on the inside and out. Shut up, perverts. You know what I mean. And I’m happily married, so no offense to Igor.