Have been sailing for the last 52 years ... East coast, Mediterranean, trans-Atlantic, Caribbean. Sailing is challenging ... sailing is hard! If a challenge is what you desire and if you can truly embrace self-sufficiency, then go for it, but serenely sailing into the sunset is a dream .... sailing with mother nature is hard reality. 74 and still loving the challenge.
off and on almost 30 years of living full time on a sailboat. I've been through three mainships and countless dinghies. I think the best description I've ever heard is "Sail cruising consists of long drawn out periods of sheer boredom followed by a few moments to a few hours or a few days of sheer terror then a few days, weeks months or years of repairs while you work up the courage to go out and do it again."
Agree, you have to be a macGyver for sailing, no other way around it. I have seen many buying their way into it and find them stranded at the first small problem because somethings isn't perfect anymore. You have to roll with the punches.
@@captainKedger that's right, pure boredom, the brain boils in long-term podafonrozh, so the trip must be planned, only the competitions have their own attraction where, for example, there are 40 boats on each with about 5 people, that's a total of 200 people where you communicate with many between competitions. In general, you get suffocated without communication, for me sailing only for a few days to two weeks brings pleasure, a trip across the ocean is equivalent to a trip through a water desert, but if it blows well, when the sail becomes hard as a board, it’s just another story when you can’t hear a person screaming 1.5 meters from you...
@@ЄвгенОлещук True ... long distance sailing can be incredibly boring, disciplined and confining ... i.e. time to break out another novel. Most sailors only suffer the long distances to get to another great gunkholing venue.
Making videos is tedious and extremely time consuming. My theory is that people quit sailing because they've burned themselves out trying to put out weekly videos about sailing. Also, full time cruising on a sailboat is very demanding in every sense of the word demanding. No one should be expected to do it for more than a few years. Also keep in mind that UA-cam is NOT REALITY.....meaning there are literally thousands of people who are continuing to cruise full time that we'll never know about.
Agree. The quality and continual complaints about how much time editing takes is rubbish. As someone who does 3d design on computers I know how long things take (and as someone who owns photoshoot software) and after the initial month or two if they have not figured out a way to speed up the process then they have failed. Also, continually begging for money gets tiresome and I imagine with the ongoing financial situation getting worse, less are donating. And finally about sailing. I lived on my boat for 2. 5 years straight, most of the time in a luxury marina during Covid and even then it was nowhere as luxurious as even a simple home. It gets tiring
Here's a universal life fact, AKA "Advice from an old dude". Turning ANY hobby into a job will eventually result in hating that hobby. I cannot count how many fly fishermen, skiers, climbers, and car enthusiasts I have known who thought it would be a good idea to try to monetize their passion. Sure, you may eventually make a living from it, but the very few that do will have sold their soul to do so. Work is work. Play is play. Play as work sucks. Mark my words!
True. I always thought about making videos out on my boat for UA-cam just to share. Then everytime I go out im just so happy and enjoying myself spending time recording is far from my mind.
Freakin love this channel. And we are a Sailing Channel that quit a few months ago. 😅Our boat is awesome, we still love it and live on it fulltime, dont have babies... Combo of Just never ¨breaking through¨and were stuck at 7k subs for too long. Equipment breaking, and UA-cam not making the revenue for us to replace them. But we are still sailing strong! Over 10K NM in! 🎉
I believe that most of sailing channels, have no other content beside fixing stuff, being in danger or so. So, they buy a fixer-upper, and always have something to film.
Ever look at the price of newbies? well you gotta be filthy rich to purchase anything bigger than a canoe! So yeah used is the way to go. But you need to know WTF you're doing. That means you need to know a lotta stuff about a lotta things, see? And not many fall into that category because you also need a BRAIN which not very many nowadays are endowed with. At least not in the USA. For example what kinda stuff do YOU plan on doing.. living aboard? Cruising.. where? if you're figuring on crossing the big pond you need a full keel with attached rudder to that keel.. NOT a skeg and not a fin keel, see? So like I mentioned you need a brain. AND you need to be YOUNG too. Because sailing is WORK.
From my experience as the owner of a 44' catamaran, it's hard to justify the cost of a large ocean cruising sailboat, if you're not living aboard full time. It's a lot like owning a vacation home. You have all the costs of maintaining two residences. You still have to pay for all the maintenance, insurance and repairs along with the added expense of marina fees. So just like owning a vacation home, if you're not using it for at least 4 to 6 months a year, it makes more financial sense to just charter and/or rent than own. Of course there's the emotional attachment (and covenience) with owning. Then again, when you're home, you worry about the boat, and when on the boat, worry about your house. Having it all means also having all the problems and the cost that comes with ownership.
I have never understood the concept of a second home. It makes so much more sense to just rent a place for a month. I used to be a butler. My last employers' sister, had an impressive log home as a vacation home in Aspen. I asked him if he would get a place up there. His response was, absolutely not! It cost too much money to buy and maintain a second home and it sits empty 11 months a year. He said the best second home, was someone elses.
I sailed in the 70s and 80s...lived in the Caribbean for 10 years. When I was doing it there was nothing. Everything was free....parking...anchoring....dingy docking.....now everybody has there hand out. I did buy a nice 34 ft. Sailing vessel when I retired several years ago but keep it in a beautiful marina 10 minutes from my house. I like sleeping in air-conditioning with a really comfy bed. That's whY happens when u get old and lazy.
Yeah, John. Live long enough it happens. Aging out. However climbing a mast when you're 80yo is probably not a good thing. You do that when you're 30. I lived on a moored boat in Saint Augustine for a coupla years back in the 70's. Free and you didn't hafta worry about someone stealing your dingy. Nowadays? No way.
The lady in question is a how to of what not to do. She literally did everything wrong. Bought an old yacht, didn’t get a survey, didn’t transfer ownership, didn’t do a sea trial, didn’t even run the engine up to running temperature to check for leaks and she says she’s a diesel mechanic and the list goes on. If she had of given that yacht even a cursory look it would have revealed the unmitigated disaster it was. In the words of a great man, it was an absolute trash can.
I got a deal on a retired Uniflite US navy 50 foot utility boat that needed hull, running gear repair, and the engine rebuilt. I estimated 1 year on the hard to get her sea worthy, and I had an area where I could keep it for next to nothing. 3 years later I splashed it after doing most of the work myself, and about 20% over budget. The cost to berth a 50 footer was expensive, and then there was hull maintenance. I literally became a slave to the boat, so after a year I sold it, and walked away with about 3K profit if I didn't include my time, and work. What I learned was, the bigger the boat, the repairs, parts are more expensive, and labor intensive, not to mention maintenance, and the berthing cost. This was what can be considered a bare bones powerboat, and a sailboat is just a powerboat with the cost of standing, and running rigging added.
Glad you were able to come out of that boat and not lose your shorts. I tell my clients all the time a sailboat is just a power boat, just happens to also have a bunch of extra nonsense to give you the illusion that its cheaper than buying fuel, its not but whatever
La Vagabonde is still pumping out the soft porn? Who knew? Atticus? It is about time. They spend more time analyzing their feelings than sailing. Cool that they got people to finance their dreams though. Sailing GBU was entertaining but a predictable ending. Funny couple though. I like Delos and RAN sailing. Both building boats at the moment but Brian and Johan are genuine sailors, even with young kids.
For same reason majority choose to live in apartments in the city, boat is very similar to a house, if you can’t do basic repairs and upkeep at home you don’t need a sailboat.
The best thing about this channel is the brutal honesty. On a lot of sailing forums, I'll ask a question like, "why is this boat better/worse than that?", or, "is this boat worth putting X amount of time + money into?" And the responses are usually something like, "do what your heart desires", and "you can't put a price on something you love" .........bro, I'm not wealthy. I need to know what the financially sound decision is. Or the least-bad way to waste money. I know boats are money pits, but that doesn't mean I want to buy a dog that I'll waste my youth and hard-earned money on .... and be left with a dog that is in slightly better condition. It's nice to hear someone speak who is based in reality
I’m thinking of doing a video that is just numbers-what it cost to buy, maintain, surprise expenses, etc. Wasn’t sure if anyone wanted to see it though
Yeah, and you missed many, like the O'Kelly's who have traveled extensively and not found a usable Cat to fit their needs, wants and budget. And although the have not given up, you have Ruby Rose and the Wynn's on new boats facing loads of problems, and The Young Turks, 500+ days on the hard trying to get the factory warranty stuff fixed, correctly. So new or used sailing and keeping a boat functioning is HARD.
@@ChasingLatitudes Not being a 'member' of their channel, their last posting made it sound like they were quite upset about the state of the types of boats they were looking for.
As a full-time liveaboard cruiser, cruising around Australia. I agree. You need a steady income. I'm 49, retired, but I'm on a military pension, so for me, Im one of the lucky ones. My daughter is 25, and I have no plans for any more kids 😅 sailing is a lifestyle, and it can be an expensive one at that. It's the passion of sailing that keeps me going so until I lose the passion I have no desire to go back to Land full-time 😂 Oh, have you seen the housing prices in Australia? Im surprised more people don't live on boats. Lol.
During and after covid, a lot of sailors realized how precarious their security was, with freedom of movement and food/water securing. There is something to be said for having a land base(acreage) with a vegetable garden and the ability to protect yourself. OZ housing! I paid $US180,000 in 2016, for our home on .6 acre in Georgia(USA). My nephew paid $AU480,000 for an empty, postage stamp sized lot in Australia.
What about Delos with Brian, Kassa & they have a kid & seem to be doing just fine. They are building a catamaran right now, they want a bigger sail boat, they’ve been sailing for 14 years.
@@mickyszilagyi7864 Delos is doing amazing, they are literally one of maybe 3 channels where I actually like the people on board. As for not getting a reply, bro i get thousands of comments a day, I have to spend hours and hours trying to respond to everyone, sometimes it just takes me a bit
That's me, bought my first boat(catalina 27) in 2020 only had it for a year and a half and traded up to a hunter 280 had it for about two years and got tired of paying slip rental so now I have a MacGregor venture 23
Thanks Chris! You are so right I have been watching all of these UA-cam videos for over ten years dreaming of the day my wife and I are able to fallow our dreams sailing all over the world. Yes the best advice you give is buy the newest boat you can afford. If I didn’t watch your channel I would be in the same position. THANK YOU!!
I tend to agree with this. Whether the boat is brand new, or 40 years old, it will always need work. But it's easy to really get behind on a boat that is breaking down faster than you can fix it. When cruising, your going to constantly be working on the boat anyways. The real deal is whether you can keep it up, do all of the things on your bucket list and for some, find time to create video content. It's incredibly challenging.
I watched some video last week of a couple getting the boat lifted out to give it a clean, and the boatyard put it down on the keel in a way that cracked across basically the whole hull. I wonder how many weeks it'll be before they call it quits.
Not sure that was the boatyard's fault - a boat should be able to sit on its own keel without popping the grid loose from the hull. That particular design has a VERY narrow keel attachment point and does not spread the load properly - great for ultimate speed but bad for a cruising boat (which often touch bottoms).
I watched it too. That was not a good first boat or even last boat, or maybe it is their Iast boat. I subscribed to see if they get the insurance. I've had 27 sailing boats from 27ft to a 97 foot brigantine over the past 55 years. The smaller simple ones are the ones that go furthest. Think..... tiller steering, hand pump water, hand start diesel, manual windlass, encapsulated keel with attached rudder, alcohol stove, small hard dinghy that rows well, etc etc.
I'm not saying you are wrong given your experiences. However I have been living on a boat built in '78 for 15 years and I have seen that people on new boats have had more break downs and equipment failure than I have. Go figure.
Sailing Atticus. Desiree is an EMO who hides in the V birth most of the day. She told Jordan she wanted to sail for her whole life but clearly she didn't. She's guilt tripping Jordan into quitting. AND Jordan will never tell her that he doesn't want to quit at all. Everyone has met a poor me girl like Desiree in their life. Literally the day she got positive pregnancy test for the second pregnancy, after jumping on Jordan and celebrating all of a sudden right then and there, her morning sickness started. So now she had an excuse for Jordan to have to do everything for her ALL DAY and she didn't have to go on the hikes and she could just sit in the V birth all day and sulk in her poor me's. Desiree has been going off about stopping sailing for the last 2-3 years every time her mom comes and visits. They decided to quit literally 10 miles down wind from dropping her mom at the airport. I mean it their life and I think Jordan is making the right decision but I hope he doesn't think she's going to be happy on land because her mental illness wont go away she will just find different excuses and reasons to hide from the world and not do work
A couple of thoughts. One: I just got old. My last boat was Beneteau 51. It just got a bit too big for us. We lived aboard for year. Two: Too expensive for the hole in the water where we kept the boat in San Diego. We sold the boat before it got to the classifieds and bought a house! I haven't looked back, nor touched saltwater since. I'm 80, now and only have good memories sailing from 1974 until 2006. I have over 55,000 saltwater miles to look back on, including a 6 year circumnavigation, 38,000 miles. When I lived in Seattle cruising and racing and one trip to Hawaii and back made up most of the other miles. Great life.
There’s a simple rule of thumb for buying and refitting a boat. You start with the sale price of the boat and then you add the cost of absolutely everything you want fixed or added to the boat. Then you take that number and multiply by 5 . It should give you a reasonably close estimate.
Amy did a fantastic job with HER fixer-upper. She got ahead of her skis when trying to double down and expand. happened to me on land. It's happened to everyone I surmise one way or another. I expect amy to be right back. She's a logical person who took a wrong turn .
We built our sailboat in our backyard and launched it in 1985. We are having a great time aboard. We survived Hurricane Ian and are now in Key West. Love it. We are able to fix anything that comes along. I am an engineer. I spent 5 years building fishing boats in Portland, Oregon. Most went to Dutch Harbor Alaska so the boats had to be sea worthy.
Its because powerboating is easier. Sailing is work, lots of maintenance, the rigging needs constant maintenance and is crucial for safety. I have a small custom powerboat with a small cabin for camping. I use it all the time. I dont have to do any work but tow it to the ramp, start it and go. Got to load the supplies for my adventure, and make my playlist. Its enough work getting ready for a few days trip out i dont want to work once im on the water. I want to relax once im on the water.
Is your love for sailing, or for filming videos for youtube? Sailing requires constant attention to a multitude of variable conditions that rule out making a reality show of it.
Agree. After 10,000 blue water miles I could fly to Fiji, stay in a reasonable hotel and get a boatman to take me out to the good breaks. I'd get way more kitesurfing and travel in for the same $
I've been sailing my personal boat for 10 years. It's as fun and worthwhile now as it ever was... probably because I never "overdid" it. I cruise seasonally and try to have work/life balance. I don't feel the need to quit everything and cross an ocean right now. I like going to remote anchorages and hanging out. Don't need to go halfway around the world to find these experiences. I've seen plenty of cruisers over the years burn themselves out financially, physically, emotionally, and have to quit for good. Yes, it still costs a lot of money and I do make big time sacrifices to live this lifestyle...but it's worth it. All the money I've dumped into my boat could've gone to a house or some other more lucrative investment but nothing beats the freedom of being able to spend a season on the water, after a season away. You miss the boat and wanna go back, as opposed to getting burned out by it and getting cabin fever.
how people part with their $ to fund peoples sailing is beyond me . ? i live on a 1974 camp nicholson 34 feet aluminium. it’s class is a 1 tonner. certainly not the best live aboard. never had a $ from anyone. these self serving people make me sick .
Hi sailors! I have a dream - to sail around the world with my dog and experience life on the open sea. But there's one thing I’m missing - a sailboat. I can’t afford one, but I truly believe that with the right boat, my dog and I could create unforgettable memories, exploring new places together. If you have a yacht you no longer use or need, I’d be forever grateful if you could consider giving it to us. We promise to care for it as our own, and it would mean the world to us. Thank you for reading!
Great video. I think a lot of people that are quitting sailing, mostly is because most of them started way early in age, and if you quit your job to so sailing, and then decide to go back onshore and working, you've lost a lot of ground and not in contention for the current generation of job seekers. I bought a sailboat in 2015 as a desire to go full time on the boat after retirement, and for the last 5 years it has been on the hard, as I refitted it, rebuilt the engine, and all kinds of expensive stuff, all while working earling a 6 digit figure and working on the boat part time. When I bought the boat, I was separated from my wife, and we got back together, and I think my 35' boat will be rather small. I have no plans to cross any oceans, but do plan to doing the Bahamas, Caribbean and ABC island, as I will be retiring within 6 months, and hopefully get to enjoy retirement doing something I like to do, plus I have a few side gigs to supplement retirement, so I should be okay, but still looking for a small property in the Caribbean or Arubal to spent the rest of my days and sailing oftem, but not full time, at lease that's the plan. Great video to open people's eyes, and show reality.
Always have a pre-purchase survey done, and understand that blue water cruising can be arduous, dangerous, stressful, and extremely demanding physically. Adjust your expectations to the reality of your individual situation, and learn to sail BEFORE you go.
Hi, I enjoy your videos and sail boat purchasing advice. Do Patreon members get a chance to go deliveries or only Consulting members? Also what level is required to go on deliveries?
Just found this video!! Thank you. I live in Honduras and would like to sail to Florida or Texas twice a year. What type of boat would you recommend for two people.
Imagine the brochure at the boat show for the boat most of these people needed starting out: "Just the essential in-built electronics. Save that money for a steering vane and extra i-pad. Rugged interior is easy to scrub and repaint. Over built low stress rig prioritizes reliability and low parts count. Space for a short hand crew and serious provisions. Guests sleep on deck..." The marketing on the majority of "cruising" boats warns people. Luxury accomodations. High performance rig. Loaded with conveniences (electric labor saving gadgets). Its delusional thinking that a used high performance luxury machine will be maintainable in the marine environment. Don't just get a boat surveyed. Ask the surveyor "What will the next major refit cost?" Sailing passages and working constantly (in the tropics especially) everything wears 12x more than a boat that sails regattas one season a year and coastal cruises a month per year. That's new standing rigging + new sails + new running rigging + overhauling every winch and block + rebuilding the engine + replacing and/or upgrading at least 50% of all instruments, refrigerators, air conditioners, appliances, autopilots, etc. + some cosmetic work, flooring, upholstery, bright work... Continuous live aboard sailing and entertaining in space, luxury, and convenience can be done if one can afford a new Oyster every 5 to7 years. Or afford regular major professional refits. Otherwise one needs a smaller, simpler, less luxurious, and likely less high performance boat. But there are precious few rugged, simple, modestly sized new boats sold.
I had to have a chuckle @ your comment, especially the first paragraph! 😅 That reads EXACTLY like my current (2nd) boat. But you know what, I absolutely love her. Talk about rugged interior, the damned paint from the 1980s can't even be sanded off haha. That wind vane option? Yep, I'm going up the mast to put that in. Ipad? I actually prefer that over a built in display, but I bought a Samsung Active Pad. It's seriously tough & over built. I do prefer simplicity on the boat. Less to go wrong!
I guess i am lucky. Just bought a boat that's 52 years old and nothing is broken on it. Zero leaks solid haul solid interior. The newer the boat the more costly the problems it seems. Old boats where built to last.
Did 4000 miles over two summer seasons on a new 2022 65 foot sailboat of which 85% of the distance was done under motor due to time limitations and specific destinations in mind (not liveaboard, only vacation use). Either there is too much wind, from the wrong direction, or no wind. If you want to go somewhere the wind is never there. Additionally, the rigs that the boats have at larger sizes (we are interested in 65-75 foot range due to personal space and guest space requirements), start to become incredibly powerful (currenty rig has 222sqm of upwind sail with a 260sqm code and a 300 sqm gennaker). That is why my family is quitting sailing after 30+ years and transitioning to a steel full displacement boat like Doggersbank/Bering. Similar characteristics with travelling at hull speed (~8knots) allowing to enjoy the journey, but with more safety and space. Looking forward to the change!
is that a joke? I am a full time delivery captian with 237,000 NM sailed, over 40,000 NM filmed on my channel just in the last two years, im not a vlogger dude
No matter how you look at it, new or old boat, full timer or weekend fair weather sailor.....Sailing is a TRAP. Me as a the fair weather sailor, I would always sell my boat and travel for a couple years before buying another sailboat. The problem for me is invested time and the time is the trap. Sailing season is only so long and I find myself on the boat too often. This takes away from other adventures. I went well past my usual time that I buy the boat....going on 4 years now and I'm losing the desire to buy because I've traveled to some amazing places and want to see more.
@@ChasingLatitudesThe problem everyone makes is trying to have a schedule, which defeats the whole purpose. Just go where the winds blowing and enjoy it
I've been sailing around florida for about 30 years and I don't have any steady source of income, no trust fund, no go fund me...I just have a lot of valuable skills and I find work along the way as I need money and whenever I meet people who need work done or sailing lessons or whatever
Why would anyone in their right mind dream of life of hedonist but meaningless retirement, being homeless, living on a floating RV in a water-borne tropical trailer park??
@@captainKedger 80% of people lack common sense or common knowledge that’s why they make excuses about why they can’t do something. Like challenging things are to much effort so let me make you an excuse but excuses are so common they outway logical thinking.
I’m learning to sail on a trailerable sailboat. I bought a Hobie Cat and am looking to get a bigger boat that I would still trailer. I have a model in mind and struggle with buying one that the seller is saying in excellent shape at a premium price, or looking for a deal on what might not appear to be in as good if shape. My problem is I’m not at that knowledgeable what I’m looking at. I live in a rural area with a very small sailing community.
With the chaos around the world with tons of people escaping their own countries, riding rafts, and whatever means they have, it is now a lot more dangerous than ever on the oceans. I recently read about a couple found dead on their boat. There are some places around the world where people stop to explore and film that they should avoid. I can understand why some people quit.
Can you weigh in or do a video on The Wandering Hillbilly and his experience with his insurance and the salvage company who ultimately wound up owning his almost brand new Aquila? No…not a sailboat but a story that could help many ppl who aspire to venture out onto the seas at some point in life. Thanks!
@@ChasingLatitudes well…long story short. Producer of The Voice television show. Just received new Aquila power cat. Had it out in the BVI on a ball amd the ball broke. Yacht crashed ashore. Salvage got it off. Insurance screwed him over. Salvage charged him half a million in fees. Only recourse was to turn over the boat. Never really got to enjoy it. Pretty much one of the first true trips out on it. Just search the Wandering Hilbilly. He’s got a pretty significant channel on YT. He explains it all but it would be good to hear your take.
Anything 20 years old or more in my opinion. Yes there are of course outlying vessels that have had lots of work done that may not be as bad however my general rule is to buy 15 years old or newer
My father has raced sailboats for 50 years and the thing that may lead him to quit is rising insurance costs and docking fees. The same multinational companies that are buying up all the houses are also buying up the marinas and increasing the fees
I'm retired and my kids are all grown up. I live in Hawaii which is the perfect place to have a home-base and sail the entire Pacific. I'm on a stage of my life that I would to start enjoying sailing full time. I fully understand this lifestyle is not cheap but I'm willing to have a budget and commit to it.
I like sailing model yachts. Inexpensive and great fun. My cousin has a full size boat which is nice but its a depreciating asset on which there is always something broken or not working.
Simple... because they're not making enough money from subscribers to subsidize the journey and are in the red or the graph is rapidly heading downward.....
I'm a senior and new to sailing . I'm addicted to Sam Holmes , Kevin Boothby and sailing Wave Rover. Sailing Lady K and ASa. I watch several and even those who've quit offer great ideas on how to enhance my small Mcgreggor 24. My philosophy in life. It's mot the destination. It's the journey. Those who quit have great life long memories and my bet, several may return to sailing as their life goes on. Live the dream.❤
Lin Pardey. in an interview on YT said the same as you. Modern sailors are more interested in the destination than the journey. She and Larry have been several times around the world on boats under 30 FT, as are you. Lacking electronics, air conditioning, refrigeration, dishwashers, etc, their expenses and breakdowns are minimal. Many couples quit because one or the other is not sea-kindly.
I want to live on a boat, but not a sailboat. LIke a 45' Cabin Cruiser, but on the Lake Ontario in fresh water and pull it out after the season. Gonna live on it during the summers. Fresh water should stop some of the upkeep problems.
Sailing Nervous was the canary in the coal mine for quitting the UA-cam sailing scene. He was a funny guy, but wouldn't leave the slip without help, so he wasn't going to be going far. I actually felt bad for him and his wife.
What do you think about the Sail Life channel boats? He's currently looking at a beat to heck PDQ 44 (I think it's $10-20k + fees), but needs an almost literal ground - up rebuild. I never understood why it made any sense to burn 6 years of his life & however much money rebuilding the other 1987 Warrior 38. As I understood, that was a remarkably unremarkable boat. And not worth the (I think $38k) price he paid for it, and should have cut his losses at some point when he found the wet framing, or bad deck, or half a dozen other financial write-offs. It's hard to consider the youtube/social media income. But they seem like extremely bad choices for the everyday person. I understand the love for DIY, repair, crafting, building... but, like, get a cooler boat to start with. You don't have to put $30k and 5 years into the equivalent of a 1980 Toyota Camry. There are a hundred other options.
Sail Life actually talked about this earlier in the purchase process, if I remember correctly him and his wife do it because their community likes the restoration process vids (he claims to be taking this one on full-time because of that), and more importantly they, as a couple, enjoy the challenge (regardless of the financial risks). Think he also said they have a background in boat restoration (but I may be confusing him with someone else on that point lol) What's crazier is he's the second YT channel to own that boat (at last word, sounds like the paperwork is finally processing).
@@ChasingLatitudes lol.. 42 maybe? But yeah, I get enjoying the process, but at some point, personally, I'd want to enjoy the boat. It's one of the many reasons I enjoy your content, you don't varnish the turds, show the reality of sailing, and are always willing to call out when someone is blowing smoke!
Thanks for sharing. With kids, you can do lots of sailing, too. It's primarily coastal. The tricky part is finding means and ideas for content when doing coastal sailing. Nevertheless, there are many options. Perhaps the best option is to downgrade to a smaller boat and combine sailing with other means of adventurous living.
Well thanks a bunch everyone in comments-- 65 yrs- lady w/o kids was feeling sad about that - not anymore!!!! Maybe I 'll do some more sailing!!!! Probably not GoSailing app. That crewing is awful if personalities clash -- butt kissing to get to port was something I couldn't pull off very well😂 . Love this channel,!! The content, info, learning & comments- enjoyable!!
There is also a saturation on Sailing channels, and boats are expensive of all the Catamaran channels I've seen they have the most structural issues even with recent boats. Living on them full time also shows what breaks down the quickest on a boats they sail on. As for just mono hulls age is a big factor the older and more rare or unknown the boat has problems creeping up on you. then again how older catamarans break down is also not fun. As ambitious and or fun all these ideas sound If you want to fix up a really old boat you really have to strip it down to its base and see whats what. Personally I'd probably find something of the last decade, Mono hull ideally. As spacious a Cat can be, if you are small channel and have very little experience in fixing stuff will also be more of a nightmare to juggle. Probably get something around 50 foot long or slightly longer. For most space. Just something big enough where I can stretch my legs inside if its pouring outside.
Look at the Wynns. They've been waiting for a new boat for two years, and still don't have a "new" boat that's in sail-away condition. They're in their 40s. They have a house boat catamaran that is incredibly difficult to sail any distance. It's just not worth it, it seems. And this is from someone whose dream was always to sail to tahiti, and who bought his first 14 foot sloop never having been on anything other than a canoe. Everyone dreams of having a super yacht, but in truth most of us can't afford it.
Plus crewing these new big boats is just not worth it. Typical day: One stands watch 16 hours while the other one repairs all the gadgets 16 hours a day while they motor along. And then they film and edit the next 8 hours to earn money to keep it all afloat. The Wynn's look very tired to me.
I usually stop watching most of these sailing youtubers as their content just become monotonous. They inevitably title their videos as clickbait to get the waning viewers in. There are very few of them I'll continually watch.
You really give a good insight of what sailing is and also about buying a used boat. I have a car which is 7 years old, and when it comes to maintenance, I simply think to buy a new one. The car never performs like it used to when it was new. With boats having such a big metal structure and a huge engine compared to car, I think it is not at all a good idea to buy a used one. And the second thing about buying an old boat is the boat is of old technology wherein these days every 1-2 years, some upgrade happens or some new technology comes up.
Don't want any new tech on an engine, no computer, specialist sensors, nothing. Need an engine to be as reliable as possible! When your life is at stake modern electronics are a big failure. And that very much includes electric drives.
SGBU just got married recently and they are talking about having children. So even though they don’t have kids yet, I think it influenced their decision to go back to land
A Boat is a Hole in the Water, which you attempt to fill with Money. "Boat” is not word. “Boat” is an Acronym for: “Break Out Another Thousand.” If you have to ask how much it costs? , you can’t afford it. The second happiest day of a boat owner’s life is the day the boat is purchased. The happiest day of a boat owner’s life is the day the boat is sold! The ratio of time spent maintaining the boat to time spent using the boat is about 10 to 1. If you are a cruiser, it means you take your boat to exotic locations to work on it. The more exotic the location, the more serious the repair and the less likely that parts will be available there. Life is pretty Dry without a Boat.
I sailed for 17 yr,s two years with two children aged 3,4 from aust west cost thru s.pacific to washington state,and british columbia, .children were not the problem, loved it
Been there, did it. No money, no videos, no blog. Crossed ocean, hand steered and survived. Happily living on the water (Still boating!) and clear of the bs. Good video, love it!
Thanks for the updates on all of the sailing channels I used to follow! Now I'm down to just one, and if I want to have a beer on a tropical beach I'll go by plane. 🙂
Just a question, how do you know Sailing LVB doesn't sail all the time ? are we being bamboozled ? these guys have a lot of subscribers and a lot of people pay into their patreaon to see and believing they are sailing all the time not staying air bnbs and what have you
If you are sailing and cost are stacking up in crazy ways, you were either super unlucky with your survey/boat purchase, or (more likely), you are simply in a too big boat, with too many complex systems. Costs of keeping a boat in good sailing condition go up not linearly, but with the square of the boat length. The jump from 40 to 45 feet can come with massive cost increases. And likewise, a 30 ft boat is much cheaper to operate than a 40ft boat.
Can you do a payment plan or do you want it all at once? Because when I'm finished with these garage sales. And get. Rid of all this c*** I've got. I want to live on the water for the rest of my life. Maybe I can Crew. on your deliveries to make sure I'm physically able.
@@melodiefirth2224 Sounds great. Views and locations are the same. Leaks sound concerning, but you know your boat. Think I could be happy with that. Thx!
@@melodiefirth2224 Resourceful! Gotta support that. If you're on an island, somewhere, what's the price of steak? My preferred diet. Might be about one year away from launch.
10:50 We lived on sailboats for 13 years and cruised for 3 of those with our young son. We are now dirt dwellers, and now own a house. We left sailing to take care of aging parents. Believe me, owning a house is equally or more frustrating and expensive than owning and living on a sailboat. So don't fret over the upside and downs of sailboat ownership.
Sailing la vaga sail for much more than 1 week and live more on the boat than off. As for parlay, he hasn’t had a major break since he landed in NZ the start of the year. Since then he has successfully sailed the whole island and is now heading toward Fiji - no breaks but upgrades yes.
this channel has saved me 2 maybe 300 k. thanks going in a very different dirction cost is just to much. i can spend 1/3 on trips and have just as much fun.
It is NOT true that La Vagabonde is not living on their boat. They were building their boat (which is when they were doing Airbnb's) and just got her delivered 6 months ago. Also, these channels are not all quitting. Two of the ones you mentioned was a year ago. Atticus is the only one that just did it.
youre delusional and I suggest getting outside more often vs trying to stick up for people you dont know that dont care about you, there are dozens of channels quitting, zingaro, atticus, follow the boat, the list goes on, and yes it is 100% true la vaga does not live on the boat full time , they have not lived on a boat full time in years
Well Project Addicas the boat is a true blue water boat look it up and about 50ft long but for children as she is having another baby and is up to them. Sailing Zingaro is similar to Project Addicas. Got his new wife pregnant and with their baby sailing a Blue water boat was difficult. Only sailing Noah is working hard with two children on a Boat. Good Bad and Ugly have their own money as working hard. Sailing is very difficult and the costs are so incredible. So why is your own sailing skills not there? Was this just an advert for you to sell some expertise? I used to go power boating which was expensive too. Now thinking about doing it again.
Its no different than guys that know nothing about cars that get a super expensive to maintain car then sure enough you see them with a blown engine that they can't fix
Man, we wanted to quit almost daily on our journey from lake erie to bahamas. We definitely fell for the youtube sailing channel mythical lifestyle BS on most channels. We take lots of breaks now, miss months of uploads, but we are not in it for the money or fame, so we dont care. There are more reasons to quit sailing, than there are to continue, but im stubborn 😄. Another channel quit this week too. Sailboat Story is selling their boat too.
@ChasingLatitudes I'm very goal oriented....almost to a point of being dangerous. If i set a goal, I absolutely refuse to not accomplish that goal without doing EVERYTHING I can to be successful in that goal. It's not necessarily a great personality trait to have.
I'd go sailing. But my pension won't allow it. I'm no Quitter. I just don't start stuff I know I can't finish. My heart goes out to Amy. She is a fighter but she also knows when to walk away. She'll be back.
Pacific Sea craft is one of the sturdiest most reliable vessels on the water. I owned a 34 crealock. This was the easiest single-handed Sailboat I’ve ever managed. I easily did 800 miles to Bermuda; alone. I would suggest it’s not necessarily the vessel but disenchantment with a lifestyle. Having an infant would be the most difficult aspect of nautical lifestyle. I would never discourage anybody from pursuing this dream. It will cost you heavily. I own a house that cost me heavily as well. Life is full of trade-offs. You have to decide how to approach this one with eyes wide open.
Have been sailing for the last 52 years ... East coast, Mediterranean, trans-Atlantic, Caribbean. Sailing is challenging ... sailing is hard! If a challenge is what you desire and if you can truly embrace self-sufficiency, then go for it, but serenely sailing into the sunset is a dream .... sailing with mother nature is hard reality. 74 and still loving the challenge.
It's difficult that's for sure that's why I hate the channels that show nonsense white beaches as if that is sailong
off and on almost 30 years of living full time on a sailboat. I've been through three mainships and countless dinghies. I think the best description I've ever heard is "Sail cruising consists of long drawn out periods of sheer boredom followed by a few moments to a few hours or a few days of sheer terror then a few days, weeks months or years of repairs while you work up the courage to go out and do it again."
Agree, you have to be a macGyver for sailing, no other way around it.
I have seen many buying their way into it and find them stranded at the first small problem because somethings isn't perfect anymore. You have to roll with the punches.
@@captainKedger that's right, pure boredom, the brain boils in long-term podafonrozh, so the trip must be planned, only the competitions have their own attraction where, for example, there are 40 boats on each with about 5 people, that's a total of 200 people where you communicate with many between competitions. In general, you get suffocated without communication, for me sailing only for a few days to two weeks brings pleasure, a trip across the ocean is equivalent to a trip through a water desert, but if it blows well, when the sail becomes hard as a board, it’s just another story when you can’t hear a person screaming 1.5 meters from you...
@@ЄвгенОлещук True ... long distance sailing can be incredibly boring, disciplined and confining ... i.e. time to break out another novel. Most sailors only suffer the long distances to get to another great gunkholing venue.
Making videos is tedious and extremely time consuming. My theory is that people quit sailing because they've burned themselves out trying to put out weekly videos about sailing. Also, full time cruising on a sailboat is very demanding in every sense of the word demanding. No one should be expected to do it for more than a few years. Also keep in mind that UA-cam is NOT REALITY.....meaning there are literally thousands of people who are continuing to cruise full time that we'll never know about.
I have yet to see a cinematic quality sailing vlog so I'm still confused on what takes them so long
Smuggle drugs with sailboats is also not what it used to be .
@@jeroenvanrixel7980 Tell me about it..
Agree. The quality and continual complaints about how much time editing takes is rubbish. As someone who does 3d design on computers I know how long things take (and as someone who owns photoshoot software) and after the initial month or two if they have not figured out a way to speed up the process then they have failed.
Also, continually begging for money gets tiresome and I imagine with the ongoing financial situation getting worse, less are donating.
And finally about sailing. I lived on my boat for 2. 5 years straight, most of the time in a luxury marina during Covid and even then it was nowhere as luxurious as even a simple home. It gets tiring
@@matjam8305Everything takes way way longer on sailboats. You have to dig the gear out, make sure batteries are charged etc etc.
Here's a universal life fact, AKA "Advice from an old dude". Turning ANY hobby into a job will eventually result in hating that hobby. I cannot count how many fly fishermen, skiers, climbers, and car enthusiasts I have known who thought it would be a good idea to try to monetize their passion. Sure, you may eventually make a living from it, but the very few that do will have sold their soul to do so. Work is work. Play is play. Play as work sucks. Mark my words!
This is so so so true
Chess
True. I always thought about making videos out on my boat for UA-cam just to share. Then everytime I go out im just so happy and enjoying myself spending time recording is far from my mind.
Doesn't look like Ronaldo is in any hurry to retire
❤
Freakin love this channel. And we are a Sailing Channel that quit a few months ago. 😅Our boat is awesome, we still love it and live on it fulltime, dont have babies... Combo of Just never ¨breaking through¨and were stuck at 7k subs for too long. Equipment breaking, and UA-cam not making the revenue for us to replace them. But we are still sailing strong! Over 10K NM in! 🎉
That is awesome! you got this
I believe that most of sailing channels, have no other content beside fixing stuff, being in danger or so. So, they buy a fixer-upper, and always have something to film.
I agree
So true. And, if they're not fixing stuff for consecutive episodes, then their viewers often complain in the comments.
Ever look at the price of newbies? well you gotta be filthy rich to purchase anything bigger than a canoe! So yeah used is the way to go. But you need to know WTF you're doing. That means you need to know a lotta stuff about a lotta things, see? And not many fall into that category because you also need a BRAIN which not very many nowadays are endowed with. At least not in the USA. For example what kinda stuff do YOU plan on doing.. living aboard? Cruising.. where? if you're figuring on crossing the big pond you need a full keel with attached rudder to that keel.. NOT a skeg and not a fin keel, see? So like I mentioned you need a brain. AND you need to be YOUNG too. Because sailing is WORK.
From my experience as the owner of a 44' catamaran, it's hard to justify the cost of a large ocean cruising sailboat, if you're not living aboard full time. It's a lot like owning a vacation home. You have all the costs of maintaining two residences. You still have to pay for all the maintenance, insurance and repairs along with the added expense of marina fees. So just like owning a vacation home, if you're not using it for at least 4 to 6 months a year, it makes more financial sense to just charter and/or rent than own. Of course there's the emotional attachment (and covenience) with owning. Then again, when you're home, you worry about the boat, and when on the boat, worry about your house. Having it all means also having all the problems and the cost that comes with ownership.
I have never understood the concept of a second home. It makes so much more sense to just rent a place for a month. I used to be a butler. My last employers' sister, had an impressive log home as a vacation home in Aspen. I asked him if he would get a place up there. His response was, absolutely not! It cost too much money to buy and maintain a second home and it sits empty 11 months a year. He said the best second home, was someone elses.
100%
@@southernfriedkiwi7726 could rent the second home possibly ?
@@ChasingLatitudes Every wealthy person I worked for, would never have strangers in their home.
@@southernfriedkiwi7726 fair enough
I sailed in the 70s and 80s...lived in the Caribbean for 10 years. When I was doing it there was nothing. Everything was free....parking...anchoring....dingy docking.....now everybody has there hand out. I did buy a nice 34 ft. Sailing vessel when I retired several years ago but keep it in a beautiful marina 10 minutes from my house. I like sleeping in air-conditioning with a really comfy bed. That's whY happens when u get old and lazy.
Agree
@@jackiejune1993 great minds think alike
...oh? Sounds like that's what happens when you Wise up.
Yeah, John. Live long enough it happens. Aging out. However climbing a mast when you're 80yo is probably not a good thing. You do that when you're 30. I lived on a moored boat in Saint Augustine for a coupla years back in the 70's. Free and you didn't hafta worry about someone stealing your dingy. Nowadays? No way.
The lady in question is a how to of what not to do. She literally did everything wrong. Bought an old yacht, didn’t get a survey, didn’t transfer ownership, didn’t do a sea trial, didn’t even run the engine up to running temperature to check for leaks and she says she’s a diesel mechanic and the list goes on. If she had of given that yacht even a cursory look it would have revealed the unmitigated disaster it was. In the words of a great man, it was an absolute trash can.
Yeah I agree, literally just looking at the boat you would have been able to tell it was a trash can
For a supposed diesel mechanic, she seems very naive about machinery.
I think that most of her experience was helping dad on the farm.
I got a deal on a retired Uniflite US navy 50 foot utility boat that needed hull, running gear repair, and the engine rebuilt. I estimated 1 year on the hard to get her sea worthy, and I had an area where I could keep it for next to nothing. 3 years later I splashed it after doing most of the work myself, and about 20% over budget. The cost to berth a 50 footer was expensive, and then there was hull maintenance. I literally became a slave to the boat, so after a year I sold it, and walked away with about 3K profit if I didn't include my time, and work. What I learned was, the bigger the boat, the repairs, parts are more expensive, and labor intensive, not to mention maintenance, and the berthing cost. This was what can be considered a bare bones powerboat, and a sailboat is just a powerboat with the cost of standing, and running rigging added.
Glad you were able to come out of that boat and not lose your shorts. I tell my clients all the time a sailboat is just a power boat, just happens to also have a bunch of extra nonsense to give you the illusion that its cheaper than buying fuel, its not but whatever
La Vagabonde is still pumping out the soft porn? Who knew? Atticus? It is about time. They spend more time analyzing their feelings than sailing. Cool that they got people to finance their dreams though. Sailing GBU was entertaining but a predictable ending. Funny couple though. I like Delos and RAN sailing. Both building boats at the moment but Brian and Johan are genuine sailors, even with young kids.
@@dmack1827 agree
Both next level handy guys. Johan has a major project going there though.
Plucky is still going building his catamaran in Vietnam. I always liked his content
Atticus, "It's okay, Buddy".
That sums it up well.
I have learned so much. This channel has saved me so much money and most importantly my dream of sailing from dying.
Thank you
I def want to grill up some surf and turf and then make him eat it on my Morgan! We all know they're his favorite boats😂
For same reason majority choose to live in apartments in the city, boat is very similar to a house, if you can’t do basic repairs and upkeep at home you don’t need a sailboat.
Agree
100%
The best thing about this channel is the brutal honesty.
On a lot of sailing forums, I'll ask a question like, "why is this boat better/worse than that?", or, "is this boat worth putting X amount of time + money into?"
And the responses are usually something like, "do what your heart desires", and "you can't put a price on something you love"
.........bro, I'm not wealthy. I need to know what the financially sound decision is. Or the least-bad way to waste money. I know boats are money pits, but that doesn't mean I want to buy a dog that I'll waste my youth and hard-earned money on .... and be left with a dog that is in slightly better condition.
It's nice to hear someone speak who is based in reality
100% people love to tell you that follow your dreams nonsense, like bro I need to pay attention to my bank account so my dreams don't make me homeless
Nothing like watching a video from a sailor that's just been rinsed after buying a 50 year old Westsail to bring a bit of reality to this subject.
I’m thinking of doing a video that is just numbers-what it cost to buy, maintain, surprise expenses, etc. Wasn’t sure if anyone wanted to see it though
Yeah, and you missed many, like the O'Kelly's who have traveled extensively and not found a usable Cat to fit their needs, wants and budget.
And although the have not given up, you have Ruby Rose and the Wynn's on new boats facing loads of problems, and The Young Turks, 500+ days on the hard trying to get the factory warranty stuff fixed, correctly. So new or used sailing and keeping a boat functioning is HARD.
I figured I missed a bunch, I did not know the okellies were quitting though, I thought they just bought a cat ?
@@ChasingLatitudes Not being a 'member' of their channel, their last posting made it sound like they were quite upset about the state of the types of boats they were looking for.
@@robertpendzick9250 Ahh, makes sense , what is their budget do you happen to know ?
@@ChasingLatitudes Not sure but 1/2 million +- 50 ft. a good balance comfort/ performance Saw lots of misrepresented boats.
@@ChasingLatitudes ua-cam.com/video/_9MriFN2AYs/v-deo.html 1992 Oyster 485 on sale by Zingaro $300K He wonders why it's not selling!
As a full-time liveaboard cruiser, cruising around Australia. I agree. You need a steady income. I'm 49, retired, but I'm on a military pension, so for me, Im one of the lucky ones. My daughter is 25, and I have no plans for any more kids 😅 sailing is a lifestyle, and it can be an expensive one at that. It's the passion of sailing that keeps me going so until I lose the passion I have no desire to go back to Land full-time 😂 Oh, have you seen the housing prices in Australia? Im surprised more people don't live on boats. Lol.
yeah the housing prices are out of control , every thing where I am is at least 1.2 million U.S.D
During and after covid, a lot of sailors realized how precarious their security was, with freedom of movement and food/water securing. There is something to be said for having a land base(acreage) with a vegetable garden and the ability to protect yourself. OZ housing! I paid $US180,000 in 2016, for our home on .6 acre in Georgia(USA). My nephew paid $AU480,000 for an empty, postage stamp sized lot in Australia.
Yea but a house generally goes up in value while a boat goes down and could sink.
What about Delos with Brian, Kassa & they have a kid & seem to be doing just fine. They are building a catamaran right now, they want a bigger sail boat, they’ve been sailing for 14 years.
I've noticed you didn't get a reply...and I'm with you on that..Delos seems to be doing well even after 14 years.
they are doing amazing
@@mickyszilagyi7864 Delos is doing amazing, they are literally one of maybe 3 channels where I actually like the people on board. As for not getting a reply, bro i get thousands of comments a day, I have to spend hours and hours trying to respond to everyone, sometimes it just takes me a bit
Yeah, Delos is my favorite channel as well as Uma.
A lot of people bought boats during COVID.
No idea about having a boat etc…
Saw it coming !
Very true
Hasn't this couple been sailing for over 10 years?
@@GordonDavis-j8q That checks out lol
That's me, bought my first boat(catalina 27) in 2020 only had it for a year and a half and traded up to a hunter 280 had it for about two years and got tired of paying slip rental so now I have a MacGregor venture 23
Thanks Chris! You are so right I have been watching all of these UA-cam videos for over ten years dreaming of the day my wife and I are able to fallow our dreams sailing all over the world. Yes the best advice you give is buy the newest boat you can afford. If I didn’t watch your channel I would be in the same position. THANK YOU!!
@@scottfinney9125 glad I can help
I tend to agree with this. Whether the boat is brand new, or 40 years old, it will always need work. But it's easy to really get behind on a boat that is breaking down faster than you can fix it. When cruising, your going to constantly be working on the boat anyways. The real deal is whether you can keep it up, do all of the things on your bucket list and for some, find time to create video content. It's incredibly challenging.
I watched some video last week of a couple getting the boat lifted out to give it a clean, and the boatyard put it down on the keel in a way that cracked across basically the whole hull. I wonder how many weeks it'll be before they call it quits.
@Maxillz someone mentioned that to me, not sure what channel it was but sounds like a disaster
Pat and frankie on youtube ua-cam.com/video/edgDfGLQrzg/v-deo.html
@@ChasingLatitudesthat was Pat I Frankie (something like total disaster was in the title)
Not sure that was the boatyard's fault - a boat should be able to sit on its own keel without popping the grid loose from the hull. That particular design has a VERY narrow keel attachment point and does not spread the load properly - great for ultimate speed but bad for a cruising boat (which often touch bottoms).
I watched it too. That was not a good first boat or even last boat, or maybe it is their Iast boat. I subscribed to see if they get the insurance. I've had 27 sailing boats from 27ft to a 97 foot brigantine over the past 55 years. The smaller simple ones are the ones that go furthest. Think..... tiller steering, hand pump water, hand start diesel, manual windlass, encapsulated keel with attached rudder, alcohol stove, small hard dinghy that rows well, etc etc.
I'm not saying you are wrong given your experiences. However I have been living on a boat built in '78 for 15 years and I have seen that people on new boats have had more break downs and equipment failure than I have. Go figure.
Valid point, people shoukd not buy brand new boats either
@ChasingLatitudes so what boats should people buy then?
Sailing Atticus. Desiree is an EMO who hides in the V birth most of the day. She told Jordan she wanted to sail for her whole life but clearly she didn't. She's guilt tripping Jordan into quitting. AND Jordan will never tell her that he doesn't want to quit at all. Everyone has met a poor me girl like Desiree in their life. Literally the day she got positive pregnancy test for the second pregnancy, after jumping on Jordan and celebrating all of a sudden right then and there, her morning sickness started. So now she had an excuse for Jordan to have to do everything for her ALL DAY and she didn't have to go on the hikes and she could just sit in the V birth all day and sulk in her poor me's. Desiree has been going off about stopping sailing for the last 2-3 years every time her mom comes and visits. They decided to quit literally 10 miles down wind from dropping her mom at the airport. I mean it their life and I think Jordan is making the right decision but I hope he doesn't think she's going to be happy on land because her mental illness wont go away she will just find different excuses and reasons to hide from the world and not do work
Good in depth review
What a hater...
@@preciouspearl487 It is a pathetic channel, I wouldn't trust Jordan to change a battery in my watch
A couple of thoughts. One: I just got old. My last boat was Beneteau 51. It just got a bit too big for us. We lived aboard for year. Two: Too expensive for the hole in the water where we kept the boat in San Diego. We sold the boat before it got to the classifieds and bought a house! I haven't looked back, nor touched saltwater since. I'm 80, now and only have good memories sailing from 1974 until 2006. I have over 55,000 saltwater miles to look back on, including a 6 year circumnavigation, 38,000 miles. When I lived in Seattle cruising and racing and one trip to Hawaii and back made up most of the other miles. Great life.
That's awesome, thank you for sharing
There’s a simple rule of thumb for buying and refitting a boat. You start with the sale price of the boat and then you add the cost of absolutely everything you want fixed or added to the boat. Then you take that number and multiply by 5 . It should give you a reasonably close estimate.
😂 this is basically true
Ps , This is not a joke.
And you can multiply the time that it will take you by 5 too. 😵💫
@@Mark-abc Then you start saving for the next re fit in about 5 years and it will cost double what you just paid.
So sad for Amy, just heart breaking. Chris' knowledge has enlightened me to avoid the problem of buying the wrong sailboat.
Yeah thats a bummer
Amy did a fantastic job with HER fixer-upper. She got ahead of her skis when trying to double down and expand. happened to me on land. It's happened to everyone I surmise one way or another. I expect amy to be right back. She's a logical person who took a wrong turn .
Sailing Zataria was very successful sailing with children in my opinion. Your thoughts?
Hats off to them, they have done a wonderful job. Keep in mind they are incredibly wealthy so that does help
They are an exception. Their children were a little older. Sailing Nahoa scares me to death.
We built our sailboat in our backyard and launched it in 1985. We are having a great time aboard. We survived Hurricane Ian and are now in Key West. Love it. We are able to fix anything that comes along. I am an engineer. I spent 5 years building fishing boats in Portland, Oregon. Most went to Dutch Harbor Alaska so the boats had to be sea worthy.
Sounds like you have had an amazing time, congrats
@@ChasingLatitudes Thanks, it’s been a long trip but we’ve made it fun along the way.
There’s an old saying-it goes something like this “if you love sailing, it’s better to have a friend who owns a boat than to actually own a boat”
No truer words have ever been spoken
SV Delos has been able to do the kid and full-time sailing.
@@figsrabbithole2093 I love their videos, don’t miss a Friday!💕⛵️
Yeah they are amazing
Its because powerboating is easier. Sailing is work, lots of maintenance, the rigging needs constant maintenance and is crucial for safety. I have a small custom powerboat with a small cabin for camping. I use it all the time. I dont have to do any work but tow it to the ramp, start it and go. Got to load the supplies for my adventure, and make my playlist. Its enough work getting ready for a few days trip out i dont want to work once im on the water. I want to relax once im on the water.
Totally agree
Is your love for sailing, or for filming videos for youtube? Sailing requires constant attention to a multitude of variable conditions that rule out making a reality show of it.
Agree
Sailing is the slowest, most expensive, and most dangerous way to travel. Been sailing 40 years on 6 different sailboats.
Agree 100%, what sailboat are you on ?
Agree. After 10,000 blue water miles I could fly to Fiji, stay in a reasonable hotel and get a boatman to take me out to the good breaks. I'd get way more kitesurfing and travel in for the same $
And with all that money being spent your travelling 3rd class most uncomfortable way to travel except maybe camel or horse/wagon.
I've been sailing my personal boat for 10 years. It's as fun and worthwhile now as it ever was... probably because I never "overdid" it. I cruise seasonally and try to have work/life balance. I don't feel the need to quit everything and cross an ocean right now. I like going to remote anchorages and hanging out. Don't need to go halfway around the world to find these experiences. I've seen plenty of cruisers over the years burn themselves out financially, physically, emotionally, and have to quit for good. Yes, it still costs a lot of money and I do make big time sacrifices to live this lifestyle...but it's worth it. All the money I've dumped into my boat could've gone to a house or some other more lucrative investment but nothing beats the freedom of being able to spend a season on the water, after a season away. You miss the boat and wanna go back, as opposed to getting burned out by it and getting cabin fever.
@@falkpatt awesome
how people part with their $ to fund peoples sailing is beyond me . ? i live on a 1974 camp nicholson 34 feet aluminium. it’s class is a 1 tonner. certainly not the best live aboard. never had a $ from anyone. these self serving people make me sick .
Hi sailors! I have a dream - to sail around the world with my dog and experience life on the open sea. But there's one thing I’m missing - a sailboat. I can’t afford one, but I truly believe that with the right boat, my dog and I could create unforgettable memories, exploring new places together. If you have a yacht you no longer use or need, I’d be forever grateful if you could consider giving it to us. We promise to care for it as our own, and it would mean the world to us. Thank you for reading!
Great video. I think a lot of people that are quitting sailing, mostly is because most of them started way early in age, and if you quit your job to so sailing, and then decide to go back onshore and working, you've lost a lot of ground and not in contention for the current generation of job seekers. I bought a sailboat in 2015 as a desire to go full time on the boat after retirement, and for the last 5 years it has been on the hard, as I refitted it, rebuilt the engine, and all kinds of expensive stuff, all while working earling a 6 digit figure and working on the boat part time. When I bought the boat, I was separated from my wife, and we got back together, and I think my 35' boat will be rather small. I have no plans to cross any oceans, but do plan to doing the Bahamas, Caribbean and ABC island, as I will be retiring within 6 months, and hopefully get to enjoy retirement doing something I like to do, plus I have a few side gigs to supplement retirement, so I should be okay, but still looking for a small property in the Caribbean or Arubal to spent the rest of my days and sailing oftem, but not full time, at lease that's the plan. Great video to open people's eyes, and show reality.
Awesome, congrats on you and the wife working things out
Always have a pre-purchase survey done, and understand that blue water cruising can be arduous, dangerous, stressful, and extremely demanding physically. Adjust your expectations to the reality of your individual situation, and learn to sail BEFORE you go.
@tinman8972 yes sir, a 1500 dollar survey can save you tens of thousands
Hi, I enjoy your videos and sail boat purchasing advice. Do Patreon members get a chance to go deliveries or only Consulting members? Also what level is required to go on deliveries?
Full consulting members
OK the 24/7 package. Thank you!
Just found this video!! Thank you. I live in Honduras and would like to sail to Florida or Texas twice a year. What type of boat would you recommend for two people.
Depends heavily on the budget, goals, locations and so on
Imagine the brochure at the boat show for the boat most of these people needed starting out: "Just the essential in-built electronics. Save that money for a steering vane and extra i-pad. Rugged interior is easy to scrub and repaint. Over built low stress rig prioritizes reliability and low parts count. Space for a short hand crew and serious provisions. Guests sleep on deck..."
The marketing on the majority of "cruising" boats warns people. Luxury accomodations. High performance rig. Loaded with conveniences (electric labor saving gadgets). Its delusional thinking that a used high performance luxury machine will be maintainable in the marine environment. Don't just get a boat surveyed. Ask the surveyor "What will the next major refit cost?"
Sailing passages and working constantly (in the tropics especially) everything wears 12x more than a boat that sails regattas one season a year and coastal cruises a month per year. That's new standing rigging + new sails + new running rigging + overhauling every winch and block + rebuilding the engine + replacing and/or upgrading at least 50% of all instruments, refrigerators, air conditioners, appliances, autopilots, etc. + some cosmetic work, flooring, upholstery, bright work...
Continuous live aboard sailing and entertaining in space, luxury, and convenience can be done if one can afford a new Oyster every 5 to7 years. Or afford regular major professional refits. Otherwise one needs a smaller, simpler, less luxurious, and likely less high performance boat. But there are precious few rugged, simple, modestly sized new boats sold.
I agree 100%
New boats have a number of issues for you to discover and then fight with the broker or manufacturer to make right.
No aspect of sailing is rational.
I had to have a chuckle @ your comment, especially the first paragraph! 😅 That reads EXACTLY like my current (2nd) boat. But you know what, I absolutely love her. Talk about rugged interior, the damned paint from the 1980s can't even be sanded off haha. That wind vane option? Yep, I'm going up the mast to put that in. Ipad? I actually prefer that over a built in display, but I bought a Samsung Active Pad. It's seriously tough & over built. I do prefer simplicity on the boat. Less to go wrong!
@TimAch-p2c The Wynn's are in that mode right now.
I guess i am lucky. Just bought a boat that's 52 years old and nothing is broken on it. Zero leaks solid haul solid interior. The newer the boat the more costly the problems it seems. Old boats where built to last.
I'd have to call bs
@@ChasingLatitudes Say hello for me. Haven't seen "bs" for a while now
Just let it slide. Accept the difference between knowing and guessing.
Man...all of these knowledge drops in the last few days...you're gonna spoil us!
Seriously, though...I've learned a ton from you. Thanks for that!
Thank you , hope it helps
Novice sailors have no idea how challenging sailing can be. Plus they have never been in the middle of a storm sails up 50kt gusts.
Yeah I agree 100%
Did 4000 miles over two summer seasons on a new 2022 65 foot sailboat of which 85% of the distance was done under motor due to time limitations and specific destinations in mind (not liveaboard, only vacation use). Either there is too much wind, from the wrong direction, or no wind. If you want to go somewhere the wind is never there. Additionally, the rigs that the boats have at larger sizes (we are interested in 65-75 foot range due to personal space and guest space requirements), start to become incredibly powerful (currenty rig has 222sqm of upwind sail with a 260sqm code and a 300 sqm gennaker).
That is why my family is quitting sailing after 30+ years and transitioning to a steel full displacement boat like Doggersbank/Bering. Similar characteristics with travelling at hull speed (~8knots) allowing to enjoy the journey, but with more safety and space. Looking forward to the change!
I love sailing, just can't afford a boat right now. I'm retired and hope one day to have one. Even 22 feet on a lake would be a dream. Wish me luck.
I'm in that same boat
Thank you. Hopefully i can find a windffal, this economy is killing me.@GordonDavis-j8q
The evolution. Single sailor on monohull, finds girl, babies, catamaran, RV, done.
I mean you are not wrong
Yes! LoL!
Well, i am in my 40ies. Kind of semi retired. Actually thinking of going the other way
What sailing experience do you have? Why should I subscribe to this channel and direct money to you, buying your advice and merchandise??
is that a joke? I am a full time delivery captian with 237,000 NM sailed, over 40,000 NM filmed on my channel just in the last two years, im not a vlogger dude
@@ChasingLatitudes No it was not a joke, just a question. You have answered it though.
Was thinking about doing this with a Trawler and adding it to my yacht walk-throughs but maybe not after seeing this.
Hhaha
No matter how you look at it, new or old boat, full timer or weekend fair weather sailor.....Sailing is a TRAP. Me as a the fair weather sailor, I would always sell my boat and travel for a couple years before buying another sailboat. The problem for me is invested time and the time is the trap. Sailing season is only so long and I find myself on the boat too often. This takes away from other adventures. I went well past my usual time that I buy the boat....going on 4 years now and I'm losing the desire to buy because I've traveled to some amazing places and want to see more.
Time is the flame that burns 🔥 us all.
I 100% agree with you
@@ChasingLatitudesThe problem everyone makes is trying to have a schedule, which defeats the whole purpose. Just go where the winds blowing and enjoy it
What's happened with Expedition Drenched? They just disappear
No idea , looks like they just went MIA one day
Unless you are independently wealthy, why would anyone ever think they can spend their life simply sailing around the planet?
No idea
I've been sailing around florida for about 30 years and I don't have any steady source of income, no trust fund, no go fund me...I just have a lot of valuable skills and I find work along the way as I need money and whenever I meet people who need work done or sailing lessons or whatever
Where there's a will there's a way keep living the dream @@captainKedger
Why would anyone in their right mind dream of life of hedonist but meaningless retirement, being homeless, living on a floating RV in a water-borne tropical trailer park??
@@captainKedger 80% of people lack common sense or common knowledge that’s why they make excuses about why they can’t do something. Like challenging things are to much effort so let me make you an excuse but excuses are so common they outway logical thinking.
I’m learning to sail on a trailerable sailboat. I bought a Hobie Cat and am looking to get a bigger boat that I would still trailer. I have a model in mind and struggle with buying one that the seller is saying in excellent shape at a premium price, or looking for a deal on what might not appear to be in as good if shape. My problem is I’m not at that knowledgeable what I’m looking at. I live in a rural area with a very small sailing community.
Hobies are a blast
A gentlemen once told me the bigger the boat the bigger the problems
This is true
With the chaos around the world with tons of people escaping their own countries, riding rafts, and whatever means they have, it is now a lot more dangerous than ever on the oceans. I recently read about a couple found dead on their boat. There are some places around the world where people stop to explore and film that they should avoid. I can understand why some people quit.
I agree
Can you weigh in or do a video on The Wandering Hillbilly and his experience with his insurance and the salvage company who ultimately wound up owning his almost brand new Aquila? No…not a sailboat but a story that could help many ppl who aspire to venture out onto the seas at some point in life. Thanks!
I dont know who that is ?
@@ChasingLatitudes well…long story short. Producer of The Voice television show. Just received new Aquila power cat. Had it out in the BVI on a ball amd the ball broke. Yacht crashed ashore. Salvage got it off. Insurance screwed him over. Salvage charged him half a million in fees. Only recourse was to turn over the boat. Never really got to enjoy it. Pretty much one of the first true trips out on it. Just search the Wandering Hilbilly. He’s got a pretty significant channel on YT. He explains it all but it would be good to hear your take.
UA-camr. Sank boat. Salvage company got it off beach. Charged him a half a million. He had to give up the boat to the salvage company.
In general what age constitutes an older boat that's going to cost too much? 70's? 80's? 90's?
Anything 20 years old or more in my opinion. Yes there are of course outlying vessels that have had lots of work done that may not be as bad however my general rule is to buy 15 years old or newer
My father has raced sailboats for 50 years and the thing that may lead him to quit is rising insurance costs and docking fees. The same multinational companies that are buying up all the houses are also buying up the marinas and increasing the fees
yeah they are getting crazy
I'm retired and my kids are all grown up. I live in Hawaii which is the perfect place to have a home-base and sail the entire Pacific. I'm on a stage of my life that I would to start enjoying sailing full time. I fully understand this lifestyle is not cheap but I'm willing to have a budget and commit to it.
Awesome
So, what would you recommend for the UA-cam sailing life? Boats? Locations? Positioning?
I'd recommend power.
I'd recommend a completely different genre if youtube was the goal
I like sailing model yachts. Inexpensive and great fun. My cousin has a full size boat which is nice but its a depreciating asset on which there is always something broken or not working.
Simple... because they're not making enough money from subscribers to subsidize the journey and are in the red or the graph is rapidly heading downward.....
🎯
Bingo
I'm a senior and new to sailing . I'm addicted to Sam Holmes , Kevin Boothby and sailing Wave Rover. Sailing Lady K and ASa. I watch several and even those who've quit offer great ideas on how to enhance my small Mcgreggor 24. My philosophy in life. It's mot the destination. It's the journey. Those who quit have great life long memories and my bet, several may return to sailing as their life goes on. Live the dream.❤
Sounds good
Lin Pardey. in an interview on YT said the same as you. Modern sailors are more interested in the destination than the journey. She and Larry have been several times around the world on boats under 30 FT, as are you. Lacking electronics, air conditioning, refrigeration, dishwashers, etc, their expenses and breakdowns are minimal. Many couples quit because one or the other is not sea-kindly.
Watched all those guys. Your channel is the only one I watch now. Keep up the vids. I'm applauding your success.
Thanks frank
What he talks about in that video are just the "reasons" they give for quitting. The man is rarely going to blame the woman he loves.
Agree, and that's okay, not everyone wants to sail forever
I want to live on a boat, but not a sailboat. LIke a 45' Cabin Cruiser, but on the Lake Ontario in fresh water and pull it out after the season. Gonna live on it during the summers. Fresh water should stop some of the upkeep problems.
That would be amazing
Sailing Nervous was the canary in the coal mine for quitting the UA-cam sailing scene. He was a funny guy, but wouldn't leave the slip without help, so he wasn't going to be going far. I actually felt bad for him and his wife.
What channel ?
It was called Sailing Nervous.. He wiped all the videos off UA-cam.
What do you think about the Sail Life channel boats?
He's currently looking at a beat to heck PDQ 44 (I think it's $10-20k + fees), but needs an almost literal ground - up rebuild.
I never understood why it made any sense to burn 6 years of his life & however much money rebuilding the other 1987 Warrior 38. As I understood, that was a remarkably unremarkable boat. And not worth the (I think $38k) price he paid for it, and should have cut his losses at some point when he found the wet framing, or bad deck, or half a dozen other financial write-offs.
It's hard to consider the youtube/social media income.
But they seem like extremely bad choices for the everyday person.
I understand the love for DIY, repair, crafting, building... but, like, get a cooler boat to start with. You don't have to put $30k and 5 years into the equivalent of a 1980 Toyota Camry. There are a hundred other options.
Sail Life actually talked about this earlier in the purchase process, if I remember correctly him and his wife do it because their community likes the restoration process vids (he claims to be taking this one on full-time because of that), and more importantly they, as a couple, enjoy the challenge (regardless of the financial risks). Think he also said they have a background in boat restoration (but I may be confusing him with someone else on that point lol)
What's crazier is he's the second YT channel to own that boat (at last word, sounds like the paperwork is finally processing).
atticus 2 or would that be 3 ?
@@ChasingLatitudes lol.. 42 maybe? But yeah, I get enjoying the process, but at some point, personally, I'd want to enjoy the boat.
It's one of the many reasons I enjoy your content, you don't varnish the turds, show the reality of sailing, and are always willing to call out when someone is blowing smoke!
Thanks for sharing. With kids, you can do lots of sailing, too. It's primarily coastal. The tricky part is finding means and ideas for content when doing coastal sailing. Nevertheless, there are many options. Perhaps the best option is to downgrade to a smaller boat and combine sailing with other means of adventurous living.
Very true!
RV'ing is much safer for the younger kids. But YT RV'ing has been beaten to death.
Well thanks a bunch everyone in comments-- 65 yrs- lady w/o kids was feeling sad about that - not anymore!!!! Maybe I 'll do some more sailing!!!! Probably not GoSailing app. That crewing is awful if personalities clash -- butt kissing to get to port was something I couldn't pull off very well😂 . Love this channel,!! The content, info, learning & comments- enjoyable!!
There is also a saturation on Sailing channels, and boats are expensive of all the Catamaran channels I've seen they have the most structural issues even with recent boats.
Living on them full time also shows what breaks down the quickest on a boats they sail on.
As for just mono hulls age is a big factor the older and more rare or unknown the boat has problems creeping up on you. then again how older catamarans break down is also not fun.
As ambitious and or fun all these ideas sound If you want to fix up a really old boat you really have to strip it down to its base and see whats what.
Personally I'd probably find something of the last decade, Mono hull ideally. As spacious a Cat can be, if you are small channel and have very little experience in fixing stuff will also be more of a nightmare to juggle.
Probably get something around 50 foot long or slightly longer. For most space. Just something big enough where I can stretch my legs inside if its pouring outside.
❤ I agree
Look at the Wynns. They've been waiting for a new boat for two years, and still don't have a "new" boat that's in sail-away condition. They're in their 40s. They have a house boat catamaran that is incredibly difficult to sail any distance. It's just not worth it, it seems. And this is from someone whose dream was always to sail to tahiti, and who bought his first 14 foot sloop never having been on anything other than a canoe. Everyone dreams of having a super yacht, but in truth most of us can't afford it.
Yeah it's just hard, that's all there is to it
Plus crewing these new big boats is just not worth it. Typical day: One stands watch 16 hours while the other one repairs all the gadgets 16 hours a day while they motor along.
And then they film and edit the next 8 hours to earn money to keep it all afloat.
The Wynn's look very tired to me.
Sailing Ruby Rose or Sailing La Vagabonde experienced problems with their new boats too. Nothing surprising here.
I usually stop watching most of these sailing youtubers as their content just become monotonous. They inevitably title their videos as clickbait to get the waning viewers in. There are very few of them I'll continually watch.
@@stuartsutherland7664 they are basically all the same
You really give a good insight of what sailing is and also about buying a used boat. I have a car which is 7 years old, and when it comes to maintenance, I simply think to buy a new one. The car never performs like it used to when it was new. With boats having such a big metal structure and a huge engine compared to car, I think it is not at all a good idea to buy a used one. And the second thing about buying an old boat is the boat is of old technology wherein these days every 1-2 years, some upgrade happens or some new technology comes up.
Don't want any new tech on an engine, no computer, specialist sensors, nothing. Need an engine to be as reliable as possible! When your life is at stake modern electronics are a big failure. And that very much includes electric drives.
Thank you so much
@@tmog1000 Let me correct myself here with the word technology, I wanted to say new "Designs" of the boat.
SGBU just got married recently and they are talking about having children. So even though they don’t have kids yet, I think it influenced their decision to go back to land
And they also haven’t put out a new video in over three weeks now, without telling their regular audience anything!
I don't blame them
@@ChasingLatitudes yep just reality
@@stillwatersailor665 Yeah at that age where kids happen
A Boat is a Hole in the Water, which you attempt to fill with Money.
"Boat” is not word. “Boat” is an Acronym for: “Break Out Another Thousand.”
If you have to ask how much it costs? , you can’t afford it.
The second happiest day of a boat owner’s life is the day the boat is purchased.
The happiest day of a boat owner’s life is the day the boat is sold!
The ratio of time spent maintaining the boat to time spent using the boat is about 10 to 1.
If you are a cruiser, it means you take your boat to exotic locations to work on it. The more exotic the location, the more serious the repair and the less likely that parts will be available there.
Life is pretty Dry without a Boat.
So what kind of boat do you recommend?
Depends on your budget, needs, wants, sailing goals, location and so on
Sailing Soulianis moved to land two years ago.
saw that one as well
Project Atticus should of bought a boat with a a/c and they probably would of lasted longer.
A/c is an absoloute must
I sailed for 17 yr,s two years with two children aged 3,4 from aust west cost thru s.pacific to washington state,and british columbia, .children were not the problem, loved it
That is great to hear, glad you got a chance to experience it with the kiddos
What up Chris. Always enjoy your content thanks again
Thank you thank you
. Hopefully, there will be some good deals on used sailboats
If we get a decent storm here in the Caribbean there will be
Same with RV living. (Your channel should be called: "Don't buy an older boat.") LOL
Hahaha, fair enough
Been there, did it. No money, no videos, no blog. Crossed ocean, hand steered and survived. Happily living on the water (Still boating!) and clear of the bs. Good video, love it!
Nice
Thanks for the updates on all of the sailing channels I used to follow! Now I'm down to just one, and if I want to have a beer on a tropical beach I'll go by plane. 🙂
Just a question, how do you know Sailing LVB doesn't sail all the time ? are we being bamboozled ? these guys have a lot of subscribers and a lot of people pay into their patreaon to see and believing they are sailing all the time not staying air bnbs and what have you
you can simply ask them, if they are honest they will tell you they spend a month or so on the boat then 5 months chilling
If you are sailing and cost are stacking up in crazy ways, you were either super unlucky with your survey/boat purchase, or (more likely), you are simply in a too big boat, with too many complex systems. Costs of keeping a boat in good sailing condition go up not linearly, but with the square of the boat length. The jump from 40 to 45 feet can come with massive cost increases. And likewise, a 30 ft boat is much cheaper to operate than a 40ft boat.
Very true!
I have seen that. Upgrade to a bigger boat and then really start struggling.
Chasing Latitudes, dropping big turds of reality on your dreams since 2021. :)
Crushing dreams baby crushing dreams ✨️
@@knievelhotmail LOL
Can you do a payment plan or do you want it all at once? Because when I'm finished with these garage sales. And get.
Rid of all this c*** I've got. I want to live on the water for the rest of my life. Maybe I can Crew. on your deliveries to make sure I'm physically able.
Good idea for sure
How about the cheapest, bare minimum way to go sailing? Mechanically sound boat, water maker, freezer, minimal electronics, some solar and an engine?
watch a sailing movie in virtual reality maybe ?
@@melodiefirth2224 Sounds great. Views and locations are the same. Leaks sound concerning, but you know your boat. Think I could be happy with that. Thx!
@@ChasingLatitudes Spend too much time online, already. Nothing like the real thing.
@@melodiefirth2224 Resourceful! Gotta support that.
If you're on an island, somewhere, what's the price of steak? My preferred diet. Might be about one year away from launch.
10:50 We lived on sailboats for 13 years and cruised for 3 of those with our young son. We are now dirt dwellers, and now own a house. We left sailing to take care of aging parents. Believe me, owning a house is equally or more frustrating and expensive than owning and living on a sailboat. So don't fret over the upside and downs of sailboat ownership.
Sailing la vaga sail for much more than 1 week and live more on the boat than off. As for parlay, he hasn’t had a major break since he landed in NZ the start of the year. Since then he has successfully sailed the whole island and is now heading toward Fiji - no breaks but upgrades yes.
No they don't but thank you
this channel has saved me 2 maybe 300 k. thanks going in a very different dirction cost is just to much. i can spend 1/3 on trips and have just as much fun.
@santiagovasquez1404 my commission for the savings is only 1% . 😁 but I do agree
@@ChasingLatitudes LMAO
It is NOT true that La Vagabonde is not living on their boat. They were building their boat (which is when they were doing Airbnb's) and just got her delivered 6 months ago.
Also, these channels are not all quitting. Two of the ones you mentioned was a year ago. Atticus is the only one that just did it.
youre delusional and I suggest getting outside more often vs trying to stick up for people you dont know that dont care about you, there are dozens of channels quitting, zingaro, atticus, follow the boat, the list goes on, and yes it is 100% true la vaga does not live on the boat full time , they have not lived on a boat full time in years
Well Project Addicas the boat is a true blue water boat look it up and about 50ft long but for children as she is having another baby and is up to them. Sailing Zingaro is similar to Project Addicas. Got his new wife pregnant and with their baby sailing a Blue water boat was difficult. Only sailing Noah is working hard with two children on a Boat. Good Bad and Ugly have their own money as working hard. Sailing is very difficult and the costs are so incredible. So why is your own sailing skills not there? Was this just an advert for you to sell some expertise? I used to go power boating which was expensive too. Now thinking about doing it again.
I can out sail any UA-cam sailor literally with my eyes closed and one arm, I have more nautical miles sailed than any UA-cam x 5
@@davidforbes7772 think I'm joking all you want
Only Rich People can afford to buy and maintain a cruising sailboat. Best thing to do is buy a very used dingy like a Sunfish or Laser.
Lasers are a blast
Free Range Sailing moved to land last year, they saw something coming.
I am not sure who that is but I am always bummed when people have to stop and go back to land, sad days indeed
I really enjoyed their videos too 😢 especially when they were on the hard in Tasmania
Its no different than guys that know nothing about cars that get a super expensive to maintain car then sure enough you see them with a blown engine that they can't fix
@@DustinKillyact yup
After the go fund me, they all call it quits! Wow 😂
Awesome right
Sam Holmes isnt quiting
Never said he was ?
Man, we wanted to quit almost daily on our journey from lake erie to bahamas. We definitely fell for the youtube sailing channel mythical lifestyle BS on most channels. We take lots of breaks now, miss months of uploads, but we are not in it for the money or fame, so we dont care. There are more reasons to quit sailing, than there are to continue, but im stubborn 😄. Another channel quit this week too. Sailboat Story is selling their boat too.
Haha I thought for sure you were going to quit
@ChasingLatitudes I'm very goal oriented....almost to a point of being dangerous. If i set a goal, I absolutely refuse to not accomplish that goal without doing EVERYTHING I can to be successful in that goal. It's not necessarily a great personality trait to have.
I seem to remember a channel marker story some where
@@ChasingLatitudes ouch.... too soon 😂
@@robdarst6554 🤣 got em haha
I'd go sailing. But my pension won't allow it. I'm no Quitter. I just don't start stuff I know I can't finish. My heart goes out to Amy. She is a fighter but she also knows when to walk away. She'll be back.
agree
Pacific Sea craft is one of the sturdiest most reliable vessels on the water. I owned a 34 crealock. This was the easiest single-handed Sailboat I’ve ever managed. I easily did 800 miles to Bermuda; alone. I would suggest it’s not necessarily the vessel but disenchantment with a lifestyle. Having an infant would be the most difficult aspect of nautical lifestyle. I would never discourage anybody from pursuing this dream. It will cost you heavily. I own a house that cost me heavily as well. Life is full of trade-offs. You have to decide how to approach this one with eyes wide open.
I'd disagree with basically everything you said, and that's okay as we all have our opinions