Is the 2022 Toyota Camry premium enough to challenge entry German Trios? | Evomalaysia.com
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Had 2 Camrys before. Did close to 300k mileage in each car. Very reliable. However, the steering in both cars became heavier as the cars accumulated mileage. Solid yes but my shoulders & neck ache every time I return from a long journey. Relaxing and effortless to drive though. The wallet is always happy, nothing much to spend maintaining it throughout the period of ownership. Eventually bought a Passat, lighter steering and far more powerful. Now into more than 5 years of ownership having accumulated more than 155k. So far so good.
How's volkswagen passat in maintainence compared to camry...?
@@zetimedinah
Definitely more expensive. Mine is the 1.8 liter version with a dry clutch gearbox so you have the clutch pack issues which, in my case, occurred once. The other issues include the wheel bearings and the booth lid which was faulty, all of which were covered during warranty (5 years unlimited mileage). Considering I do outstation runs at least once or twice a month, (and I drive hard most of the time) it’s been very reliable. The brakes particularly, are very long lasting. I have till to date (it’s done 169kms) replaced the brake pads twice but not the discs.
Im advised to replace the tensioner for the timing chain on the next service interval (when the mileage hits 180kms).
The costly part is the servicing which is easily twice or thrice that for the Camry, especially each 60k interval. But then again, the servicing intervals for the Camry, if my memory serves me right, used to be 5k, for the Passat it is 15k.
I notice that most who complain of problems with their Passats are those who drive leisurely and only occasionally. I drive often and hard & have had very little issues. The car is very economical too. I can get 1,000kms if I observe the speed limit, which I rarely do. The main thing that I do not like is the sound proofing (which can be resolved by adding more sound proofing material) and the bushes that feel hard and noisy (makes a clunky sound). Asked the tire shop chaps to hoist the car and spray some PTFE silicone spray (not WD 40) on the rubber bushes. This helped quieten the sounds a fair bit, much nicer now.
For the asking price, it’s a very good machine. Very enjoyable drive. Hope this info helps.
Finally! I’ve been waiting for your review Bobby. No one beats your review, no silly broll or fancy pancy term, just honest and straight forward and a lot of little crumbs of knowledge.
Few comments who might help:
1. The rear window blind can be operated using the menu from dashboard. Its located amongst settings or setup. Its bad that its so hidden deep there, but you can.
2. The left front leather stitch was intended to enable a feature where you can nod/tilt down the headrest to 90 degrees for a better road view for the “boss” (rear passanger). No one can sit in front if the headrest is tilted.
3. As with many other reviews, you are missing the killer feature of TSS semi autonomous driving. You are simply off from pedal work, as the car has all speed cruise control. It can stop, and follow cars effectively, even turn the steering wheel. Really is a Killer feature for me.. beats every european car in its price range.
Other than the above, an excellent review and comments which I agree most of it.
Arteon better or this?
@@TheBubleTea depending if you looking for sporty or comfort
@@TheBubleTea for fun rides Arteon for day to day work the Camry wins
Bought a second hand camry a year ago. 1995 2.2 GX XV20. Completely changed how i see camrys now, cornering is kinda shit but realiable and the drive quality is insane, plus it feels super premium as a passanger
My family has xv40 camry, after almost 2 decades it still pretty good
That Camry TRD body kit looks nice too
Nice car but with not so nice new OTR price, will consider when it reaches Top Mark 5 years later with 50% depreciation.
The new Camry is definitely nice, but people who are in the market for a German car, definitely won't look at the Camry. Those who don't care about the reliability, because they'll sell the car for the next model after the warranty and free servicing is over.
That being said, I like the new Camry. It looks really good, and it looks way better than its direct competitor, the Honda Accord. Honda dropped the ball with their current designs, I'd say the current Camry looks like what the previous Accord once was.
Sad to see that the sedans are slowly dying though. But it is what it is when most consumers prefer SUVs these days.
Once the default choice for uncles looking for a mid size 150k sedan. This batch of buyers have probably moved on to the likes of harriers and crv.
the reliability of this car is legendary
I already have a Camry in 2019. Then, now, Im looking to buy another new car, I really feel to buy another Camry ^_^ perfect boyfriend that has zero complaint
Amazing car and fantastic review. Would be nice if Bobby do similar in depth review of the rest D segment sedans like Accord, Mazda 6 & Passat R Line then decide which is the best 😅😅
Yes Bobby should make an in depth comparison with Camry Mazda 6 as far as Japanese vs Japanese is concern. Even better compare it with German rivals and give it a thoughts from ownership standpoint
waited two months and believe that it's gonna be a long wait 😅
nevertheless, am gonna wait for this gorgeous Camry 😂
thanks for the review bro. pity the center console at the rear could not be open for items storage 🤣
Straight up Bobby , the screen resolution similar to China made Android ICE, how the supplier still can maintain the contract ? The rear seat armrest stitches could be better, the centre console hope not as my xc60 does, I put my IC at the edge of the console it slide and fall into the gear lever well below, need to pray open to get it back
yes! king of reliability!
Rear curtain & HUD control using multi info button
Bobby, agreed on the leather workmanship not so nice on the headrest front passenger seat, the main reason on why they do that part like that is the headrest can fold 90 degrees down
There’s no such word as leather workmanship in a Camry, only exists in Bentley
@@brandenalexander6038 let me correct my word, leather sewing/stitching workmanship
Hi bobby. If camry have a 2.0 engine and 2.5 engine, which u think is better?
I believe this camry can go on and on for at least another 10 yrs without major engine problem. Its a NA engine & torque converter gearbox. Confirm bulletproof without turbo or dual clutch tech ( u decide...u want a reliable dinosaur or high tech stuff 😀)
Nice review....i waa gobsmacked that some of my lexus ls460 features has trickled down to this camry, in its current iteration with the powertrain and chassis, it is a worthwhile buy....even my wife initially wanted the previous facelift camry to replace her written off kia, but balked at the asking price....and we lucky to have gotten a mazda 6 wagon instead...
The biggest issue is that there are no stock at all and was told gotta wait till next year for car delivery
Because of Camry is CBU and imported from Thailand.
You could try to source from rural branch cause the demand is not high compared to urban. This is the way I tried. I booked Camry on April and just took my car last week.
Serious? 😅😅😅😅
@@ashraffendy2010 yeah for real
@@ryanjunweii796 phewww. No wonder
nice hair looks bro
fair review
That infotainment is like same graphic generation with PS1
Weh today I saw this new Camry on the road and it was black and from an angle and lighting the car squads like a german from the back.
wait for Turbo version. 260k! would you pay?
Its a perfect car with a perfect size, style, technology, look, reliability, safety, comfort, and power for me that 90% suits my taste. The remaining 10% is the price which I can't afford it yet 😂😂.. 200k is too serious 'for me', despite owing a previous gen accord
My dad used own the 2010 XV40 2.4V
Bobby, can i request u take a look at the Mazda 3 Liftback Ignite Edition soon? I would like to make a purchase but still couldn't find any show model yet until now..there's no reviews on this youtube platform as well~ so may i ask ur lil help bro..please~ 🙏🏻😎
You can just refer to the US versions (Cabon edition), same black wheels & red interior. Only difference is engine
@@edwindyap1616 yeah, but i wonder if the resolution of the additional 360 camera quality similar or not..the japan spec should be more identical perhaps because my country cbu imported from there..i will try find japanese review first~ thanks though..
Bobby, any plans to review the All-New Honda Civic?
Good points
My dad just booked the new camry and still ownes a 2010 XV40 2.0G and after around 420k mileage my dad is planning to sell it after servicing the whole car wiring system (costed around 10k)
what happen to your father car?
Can’t imagine what will the cost if this new generation need a similar wiring job later 🤯
i had to short out a few issues with the wiring in my camry, didn't cost more then 1k
420k mileage wah
@@LeSpank1012 he wrote that he did the whole car, maybe tikus makan or worse coin fell into the 12v socket
Bobby how about th fuel consumption of this car
The only thing that makes german car 'expensive' here in Malaysia is because of it's 'continental' taxes and prices lol
Bobby the way u look at the car and 'woowed' at road same as me hahaha..we r more interest looking to car 🤣
How nice if harrier get same engine like this camry🤤
I know 2.0 is enough day to day but 2.5 is bettaar😉
more power = more effortless = Luxury 🤤
Hi bobby, would you recc the 2019 hybrid camry vs 2019 s60 t4 vs 2017 skoda superb?
just a single user guy that likes large cars with a nice drive
S60 is the best.
Mine has AGC (Auto glide control)
The info screen is a bit rubbish really. Buttons? Wtf.
My 2015 Red Camry 335000km running like new hybrid battery as new.
Gen 8. 4.7L/100.
Heavier ride vs prior style.
38400 Aud driveaway. Bargain.
hi Bobby just curious which car's driver seat is the best you've ever tried? I do agree with you.. Camry's driver seat is just okay..
Lexus, Volvo, Porsche. For the German trios, they're very selective who gets good seats. Only the A8, S, 7 owners and of course the AMG, M, S/RS owners get good seats
Bro, msia doesnt have the hybrid version. But it is diffierent. You should try.
Not joking, the rear sunshade and the HUD can only be controlled via the menus in the instrument cluster with the buttons on the steering wheel...like why can’t they make a physical button like the XV40 Camry to control the shade??
I'm surprised. By right Continental makes only make such simple things complicated. Lol Camry 😅😅😅
Toyota also don't made them like they used to
@@jasonw98 That's why I don't really believe it can last up to 20 years with no issue
@@royalprince5878 at this point just buy a continental car. You enjoy the features and unreliability rather than just buying a Toyota and enjoying the unreliability
It was the same since the pre facelift model....
Bobby, back seat comfort which is better? 2017 volvo s90 or camry 2022?
Camry for short distance, S90 for long distance.
you once said suspension of passat B8.5 is more comfort than 530i when passing the speed hump, how about this camry 2022 suspension if compare with passat?
Cannot be compared to the passat or 5 series at all. This is comfy, but not at that level. This is closer to mazda 6
@@BobbyAngmalaysia how it compares with accord
@@BobbyAngmalaysia please compare this with Mazda 6 since you’ve driven sedan, touring (wagon), all the engine options 2.0, 2.5 and 2.2d
Nice car
Good enough for Anwar, Good enough for all of us.
Apparently the Mazda6 needs 97 octane petrol, is the Camry 2.5 alright with 95 octane petrol?
yes :)
Safe design, not too sporty but will age well. But will it ever attract young executive with a family? IMHO i dont think so
Can the Camry run on RON 95 ? cause it's high compression engine
Yes can accord to bobby in comments
Bobby, which seat is the most comfortable?
Volvo consistently across entry to flagship. And Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Lexus - only if you buy expensive ones and above.
@@BobbyAngmalaysia is BMW 3 series considered expensive one?
@@rstz4450 let me answer for you. Nope. 3 series aren’t that comfortable. Expensive or not is subjective. But it gets comfortable from 5 series onwards. But even 5 series is not too comfortable. Get the 7 series or S class segment if you’re looking for all out comfort
Nissan too, Almera's seats are fantastic. Very comfortable.
too bad this is not a hybrid and lacks ventilated front seats unlike the one in singapore. Only thing that sucks is the head unit and lack of jbl speakers.
You mean “landscape”….?
Comparing the handling performance, which one is better? 2022 Camry or 2017 528i BMW?
BMW lah
bro, you know I know lah how these contractors get the contract for the infotainment surround camera...
CRONY mah, you help me I help you.
same goes to all the other contractors in different field out there.
Toyota's manufacturing philosophy is kaizen, incremental improvement with importamce to quality and reliability, at a price point, hence balacing against having the latest and the greatest, as well as conmitting to moq and stock buffer per toyota requirement, doubt such infotainment would be the most slick and amazing, but something that meet requirement and works for years to come....rather have this over conti manufacturers who keep beta testing their customers....
@@poovaneswaransupramaniam19 I know Toyota is reliable but still let's face the facts my above statement not true meh?? Deep down inside your heart you know and God knows.
P/S: your statement does not even relate to the video critic's on the infotainment system.
@@l.y.l4818 honestly i value manufacturers that understand their target market, prioritise the limited development cost in building a well engineered, reliable , quality product, instead of spreading themselves all over the place and making glitzy infortaiment, but a poorly engineered complicated product...dont get me wrong, i have owned a bmw, vw and even a mercedes benz, but dont really have the patience to put up with the reliability issues of these brands...given up and am using a lexus ls now...and never been more happier...even if it means putting up with underwhelming infortaiment system ...as the saying goes each to its own
I have made a wrong decision on buying accord instead of Camry and Passat, so many quality issues with the current batch and currently look to offload it😅, yes I will face loss on certain bucks but no other choices
go with passat pls
Which batch is yours??? 2020/21/22? What issues are you facing?
Erm XV70 also got some prob la, no car is perfect
@@tyranalexis5199 Is it
@@tyranalexis5199 what issues
Hi Bobby, am a loyal subscriber and really appreciate your reviews, entertaining yet honest. Would like to ask your opinion on wrapping a brand new car with transparent film in order to protect the paint work. What do you think? Would appreciate your feedback. Thanks Bobby.
I dont agree spending money on these if your car isnt a collectible where the value can be affected by respray
@@BobbyAngmalaysia understand, thanks for your prompt reply.
Unfortunately my money jiggle jiggle hence cant afford this
This car is a mid sized sedan in the west. Not comparable with German luxury makes. It's a joke that import duties in Malaysia pushed this price sky high. Protectionism at it's best.
The interior design looks horrbile for a 200k car . Toyota never suceed in nailing the headunit display ergonamics and modern design
Mazda 6 or Camry ?
@John Gomez suzuki
If you can afford both, I'd say both
🇺🇸 Bro... it's the pos German. They still can't build a reliable sedan! I'll buy the camry.
Can't stand the ugly buttons on their display panels. It's so outdated design!
My god the camera resolution. Hello we are living in 2022 not 2002. Confirm the camera supplier bestfriends with people in toyota malayisia. #corruption
The car is CBU from Thailand, so if anything, Toyota of Thailand should have the blame.
@@germaineliew2012 If CBU Thai sucks imagine CKD M'sia. Habisss
@@royalprince5878 I already heard a few QC complaints when UMW switched the Corolla Cross from CBU to CKD. So I guess you're not wrong to expect the worst.
Not premium enough
why you no wash the car b4 review.... so dusty one.... why this toyota no wash the car for bobby.....
Erm of course it was washed when they hand it over to me... Why should i make a car look good while im reviewing whether its good or not? Hahahaha joking i get you ..
fark no this car is not worth 200k...ill pick Honda civic or Mazda cx-5 any day
It's a bigger car with more features, bigger cc engine, and it's CBU. Of course it's going to cost even more.
It's not fair to compare with the Civic.
Honda? HAHAH what a joke
This look way better than the new Civic man..
Civic and CX-5..the fark! Not even same category.
@@_zer05ive my point exactly. both cheaper cars that drives 10 times better than this rubbish...go and test drive it yourself and you'll understand