Bronze players have the most interesting team comps... | Spectating Bronze
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I was the reaper/junk in this game and I am happy that you watched this! Thanks for all the advice and criticisms. It was a treat watching this live 😂
I started watching 5 min ago. What is up with the shaking thing when you aim? Can you tell me your dpi and sensitivity? Sometimes the game has trouble/makes your cursor shake if they have a particular combination that requires more 'calculations' to make it simple. It doesn't work like actually calculating but yeah may be able to help you with that.
@@Siks7Ate9 my guess is the usual very high sens.
Wait now I see it... Maybe it has something with the internet connection? Pretty weird.
@@Siks7Ate9 yeah that sensitivity, if that's it, was crazy.
It's a combination of very high dpi and and low sensitivity that's hard to calculate.
I dont remember why this happends because its been too long ago that i researched it but basically this: For example let's say you have shaky aim/crosshair when you use use 1900 dpi and 2.70 sensitivity, (1900*2.7) that's 5130 epdi. There are certain numbers that just cause next to no shaking like 1800 1600 900 800 dpi for example. So now you devide 5130/1800=2.85. So that's the dpi and sensitivity you select for the same thing or you select 900 dpi and 5.7 sensitivity for the same thing. I think it depends on hardware what causes less shaking but I'm not sure. Either way all of those edpi are the same, some just cause less shaking and that's how you solve it.
I believe my dpi is 2000 (pretty high apparently) and sensitivity is 15% in OW. Does this mean I have an edpi of 30k? That's pretty insane lol
There is nothing more entertaining and wholesome than spectating bronze... just gamers living in the moment. 🤣
It's wholesome with the right commentator. : )
@@Vertabraker101so basically its wholesome unless its flats 😭
@@Keonziyep, Flats will roast You more than Hell Itself
@@Keonzi Isn't that what I wrote?...
@G128_cz they give him permission to and it can be entertaining at times lol like the fight between the "coconut" and "walnut" the one time 😂
I've been a bronze player and trust me... a close range hero (or any hero tbh) works perfectly fine on sniper maps in that elo. If you try to be a smartass sniper in the back, they can just walk through your whole team, up in your face while you spam "i need healing/help" and nobody's gonna notice 😂
Lol it happens even in diamond 🤣
Tbf, any hero on any map works at that elo. It’s such a train wreck of unawareness and panic down there, but at least most people are pleasant!
Yeah that was what I was thinking too. But, the execution was just a bunch of panic lol
@@gohamm8629 Bronze is such a wholesome rank lol everyone is so nice
As a Widow enjoyer, this is true
That was the nicest way to say “nah you’re good where you’re at” to his higher bronze/silver comment 😂
You already know it's going haywire when he says, junkrat and reaper in junkertown...
you only play junkertown characters in junkertown, I thought everybody knew this
I'm new to overwatch, are these characters considered bad on this map? who are considered good?
Junkertown has pretty long sight lines so longer ranged characters like Hanzo, widow, Ashe do well
I usually play support. So, I haven't played too many other dps apart from those two. I didn't even mean to snipe so much as reaper lol
@@scurbbbthose characters can definitely work but requires you to flank and or assinatinate someone during a particular time window/frame because otherwise you die. You don't even need to get the kill persee but you need to create enough of a distraction or threat that they have to be aware of it.
Those characters are just harder to play due to the longer sightlines and sub optimal flank routes but they can still definitely work well on point b and c due too the choke points going into long sightlines instead of strictly long sightlines.
These vids show exactly why I often have a problem trusting my team and aggressively taking map control. We hear that song on like half the videos. You simply can't trust teammates to stay touching the point.
I found emongg through flats but i love watching emonggs vids compared to flats vids when it comes to spectating. Emongg still has that ‘rude’/joking personality abt the plays but is also very helpful and gives insight along the way. Very funny and very entertaining 😊❤
Flats does say that these are not learning opportunities. He focuses more on the roasting.
@@zaferoph yea but still flats kinda lame his takes are old and outdated and he never opens his mind to any one else’s opinions because hes stuck on his own
@@sonyjo4825 I mean he is also right about a lot so like... you don't have to change opinions if they're still valid.
@@zaferoph he is a right when it comes to games but when he talks about real world things its mind numbing. Bro does not step outside and understand the world around us
@@sonyjo4825 I've never heard him talk much about real world stuff tbh. Maybe that's more on streams idk.
I also don't watch flats for great societal insight.
You can see the panic in their mouse movements when they successfully flank and when the round is in OT. Pro tip: BREATHE when you play this game!!! Get excited AFTER you make the super sweet flank kill or win the round!
Yeah I do panic sometimes when I flank lol. It's such an adrenaline rush to go in as reaper and wreak havoc, though it's not always successful
I love that these videos come out right before my lunch break!
Watch these every day on my lunch break as well. A good Emongg video helps me decompress way faster than I would otherwise!
Dear dps players! If u see a zen on the enemy team, please focus him not the dps or the tank, if u want ur tank to do anything. Thanks, all tank players
As a Reaper main I just wanna say don't worry, Zens are my favourite meal
Hello fellow Prometheus
@@Prometheus290 👋🫶
dear dps players: plz dont shoot me i just wanted to play zen my other healer wont peel for me :(. - support player
The “could have touched the point” orchestral sections is only one of my favourite parts of these videos 😂
Im a simple person with simple needs 23:40 the immediate urge to like the video whenever this song makes it into a video! Whoever made the song is so talented its great
I’d love to hear coms if they do any and if You could hear them in replays I’d love that because it can help with call outs
This guy's shooting almost gave me a headache he's shaking his mouse like he's sneezing everytime he left clicks 😂
I play Brig on Junkertown. Bash spots are funny.
I swear I get theese team comps in my games and the opposing team has something actually cordinated and has a real team comp
Junkrat is the sane effect as a raze ult we all scatter like ratatouille
I walked on a Lucio as Mercy this morning... I knew I was taller than I was supposed to be. 🤣🤣
this was QP, but today I had their team playing pharah, echo and mercy, while my DPS thought it was smart to switch reaper and mei, then complain when I wasnt carrying them as tank.
I swear some people just dont understand the most basic concepts of a team comp
10:22 Immediately see your 2nd DPS's problem; critical lack of awareness of where the rest of the team is at, leading to no LOS from either support. I am going to suspect a pattern
The chat trolling the whole time is best the part
I love viewing bronze games, its just too funny.
14:21 that turret could not dodge the visor. definitely needed the ult for that.
Everytime I see a low bronze game I am reminded players like this exist yet it surprises me every time. In what universe do you stand next to the enemy as reaper and still miss???
People should really check the fall off distance of their weapons. Reaper does full damage from up to 13 metres away, and it’s infinitely easier to track your target from that far back.
I can SEE their leg jerking as they bounce their knee when they get excited
Ngl Emongg it looks like that all the way until about high diamond lol
What days do you do these spectating streams? I would love to watch live and react in chat
IMAGINE AN OVERWATCH OPERA AND THE C9 SONG IS PART OF THE SCORE
That questionable flank this junkrat did was a bad flank cause his inner reaper came out 😂
I saw someone in chat say this guy should probably turn down their sens, and yeah if they're able to I think that could help. Their aim just seems like violent flicking and that can be inconsistent
"Yo Bruh it's QP, chill' - the usual response to asking players to change character to suit the map/opposition in B5
Choses Reaper: Plays Widowmaker
Changes to Junkrat: Keeps playing reaper
I mean, I've seen so many streamers say that "team composition doesn't really matter below" Diamond-GM-whatever. Soooooooooooooooooo, yeah. I guess that means we generate interestingly odd comps. xD
The jittery aim drives me crazy 😅 And only bronze can make Reaper Junk work on Junkertown. What a magical elo
Need more funny bronze vods
hi emongg great vid alr
Yesterday in open queue I was healer, two tanks and a pair of assaults. got a solid first round win. Then on the next series… the team went all dps
Always hilarious seeing these brain dead team comps in metal ranks. The game mode gives you the freedom to make your health pool enormous with more than one tank and they do the OPPOSITE of that lol.
Bronze is truly a lawless wasteland
As a Reaper main I will say a couple of things, the aim is extremely shakee my boi needs to fix that, utilize flanks and Shadow Step/tp way more esspecialy on this map and maps like this, and lastly if You can kill Zen or anyone else KILL ZEN It's gonna enable your tank so much plus Zen is gonna be the easiest pick most of the time anyways
Reaper/junk vs solider/Mcree on junkertown? What could go wrong
This makes me want to be bronze
Junkrat will be a tank in OW3, as much as the devs cater to lower ranks lol
Tldw: Plays reaper as cass. Plays Junkrat as reaper
I don’t think Junkrat should have death mines
Bronze 5 is crazy
Dude is TERRIFIED every time he starts shootin, crosshair wigglin n wagglin everywhere
When they c9 I don't know which was worse. The Orisa backing up at full HP or the Mercy healing her at full HP and not even TRY to damage boost 😔 Bronze mercys are so bad with that fr
Honestly I’m surprised at how competent these teams were. Clearly they had functionally no comms, and the gameplay was loose, but compared to some of the absolute bots you could see in bronze 5? This wasn’t too bad
I want life grip out of the game. I don’t think there’s an ability that makes me more furious.
Actual skill issue if you think lifegrip is better than suzu
@@ZaWrldo I do not. I hate being life gripped. I don’t think it should be in the game. I don’t want my position being dictated by someone else.
I rather keep life grip and completely get rid of discord orb. I don't want to have 25% less hp as a tank entire game with near nothing I can do about it depending on team comps and positions.
@@spacecowboy7193I had a good lifeweaver on my team once. I was playing DVa and it was actually great. I could just dive in and blow up a squishy, then get teleported to safety. There was absolutely nothing the enemy team could do to stop it. They simply couldn’t kill me faster than I could kill one of them, and it basically guaranteed a pick every single fight.
lol
I think this guy deserves silver. Most bronze are worse than him.
When will u accept plat and above spectating requests @_@
one thing i see alot of low ranked players do and idk if its nervous or what but the constant shaking when trying to shoot def needs to be worked on, i see it with genjis and reapers all the time
It's a way to high dpi and sensitivity thing. Not the actual player moving the mouse. It's just that it's so high it thinks it's moving when it's not basically.
@@Siks7Ate9 I've played on high spirits and sens before ots not like that, its borderline Parkinson disease
It's definitely high sensitivity.. If you're someone who's played the game enough you can learn how to still hit shots with high sens but for a bronze player that's doing them no favors.
They have 15 sens thats whats wrong
@@orls9068that is wayyy too high unless you are playing like 200 dpi
Ima be honest, i dont really like the idea of a team comp. Sure some heroes pair great with others, all i think u should do is have each teammate play the hero that they are the best at. If your able to get away with a comp that people dont even think about doing, you are practically considered a great player. Nothing else shoots skill than being out of meta yet still catching Ws.
Also team comps all have 1 thing in common. There is always another comp that counters thay comp meanwhile if u have a comp that is sideway all around, the enemy will probably have a hard time going against you.
Edit: My ranks are Gold for Tank, Silver for Dps, and undetermined for Support. So if anything, my opinion probably doesnt matter.
What is your rank?
@@StaceyImaginary silver. So my advice is probably Bs but thats what i think
Love it!
Team comps really don't matter until you get to maybe diamond, possibly plat. It's why low elo tanks who try to counter pick are just hurting their team 99% of the time. If you're ass at Zarya for a BRONZE don't play her no matter what.
Team comps matter at any elo - they just matter more the higher the elo. It’s not about “the comp” or “the meta” as much as it’s about playing heroes that compliment each other.
Example: running Lucio/Mercy. Bad combo, because it requires both of them to focus on heals mid team fight, since neither of them can burst heal. It also takes away both of their utility because if they are heal song and yellow beam, they can’t speed or damage boost. Now, take this flawed combo, and add ball and tracer to them. Good luck making that work; can you? Sure, but the better your opponents, the harder it’ll be to win with that.
This game is about advantages, the more of them you have over the enemy team (Positioning, high ground, cohesive heroes, available cool downs, counters, etc.), the more likely you are to win games!
high sens again 💀
Explains why the aim is so bad. Bro was shaking.
Why don't folks stop Mercy from ressing no more?
As someone who hangs out in the metal ranks I think it might be a courtesy thing like how someone must always die to the dva bomb and high noon is a very loud reload button
Sir, this is bronze 5.
Calculated risk to bad they are really bad at math
First
nah i am
This is the type of people on my team every game. THATS why I’m hardstuck bronze.
I haven't watched the entire video, but if you believe the only reason you are stuck in bronze you are just wrong.
Bronze is the easiest rank, if you are way better then the rest of the players, you should eventually climb.
I'm speaking from experience here. In ow1 I was hardstuck 1800-1900 on support for 4 seasons yet won games and climbed on my brothers alt account in 2400+ Sr. I found out why, people peeled for me allowing me to survive and have more impact.
That's when I spend 150 hours in quick play so I got 0 peel and learned to defend myself as ana and get kills or just not die for long enough that I got more value than the other supports.
I stopped when I got mvp card 3 games in a row with 92% or higher mvp card with 5 deaths total in 3 games. I then climbed to 2800 Sr in a week and never dropped below that for literally 15+ seasons and peeked at 2987 Sr.
So you just have to learn why you don't win or get as much value. Yes you can have shit teammates but those are not the sole reason you cannot climb.
You probably die at wrong moments or don't know the enemy has a particular ultimate that will kill you. Or you don't peel or you position yourself in the wrong spots or play heroes that only make your teammates jobs harder.
For reference I have been diamond on support since day 1 of ow2 when it placed me in plat 4 and i climbed to diamond. The resets that put me in plat, i would climb back out of the same day. Currently diamond 3.
I may be able to help with figuring out where you are going wrong.
If you send me 3 game codes where you lost but it was fairly close I may be able to help pinpoint where you are going wrong. Obviously I aint going to say that you have shit aim or whatever, I don't care about aim really because that's just practice. I'll look at the hero(es) you use and if you use them effectively or not, at positioning and stuff like that.
And yes sometimes it comes down to aim being the reason you lose a fight because if you hit that shot you will win it, but that's true in every elo.
I like how the actual worst players in the game can still get value as junkrat because he's such a brain dead hero.
painful to watch a whole team stand still in a doorway on a sniper map.
especially a reaper using shotguns for long range attacks.
i know its bronze... but damn, get closer and stop moving in straight lines!!! half the time reaper makes a movie he beelines for the enemy team. Instead of you know, Flanking as he is supposed to.
Yeah, that was not my best match lol. I panicked from time to time, wasn't sure what to do in some places so I just did 1 dmg to the enemy 💀
@@creepspeople683 dont lose hope. You actually did some fairly good flanks.
besides, we were all bronze once ;)
@@Softpaw1996 Thank you! All the tips were actually incredibly helpful. I am actually almost out of B5 now (97%).
@@creepspeople683 im glad to hear.
one thing i forgot to mention aswell.
your positioning is only as great as your team.
so bad positions on your part might be entire due to your team and not because you're not good.
your Tank for instance, in this match gave up space several times unnecessary which forced your team to get into bad positions.
and a few times you were in "bad" flanks was because your tank didn't create the space they needed too.
so always keep that in mind when someone like me writes a fairly mean comment like my original. :) good reaping
@@Softpaw1996 Oh yeah, definitely. It's a team game after all, so actions by teammates also can help/affect us. I'm learning all this as I play more. Also, even if your original comment sounded mean, I didn't consider that way coz you critiqued my gameplay and gave me a couple of tips. I appreciate that a lot, so thank you very much for that :)
His aim is so bad.
it would be funny if this was the top comment
Well so far it is
no i was first
Sure would be